pvp

[fierce elm]

Who isn't Flokk at this point

[copper fox]

Right

[grand scaffold]

Yo can you send me the spec too

[fierce elm]

lmfao

IT IS THE BASIC BITCH BUILD NDOGO

[lavish quest]

R1 specs are cool and all, but does anyone have the spec to break 1600?

[grand scaffold]

I have my own secret sauce build

I just want to see if somebody else has an even better one

[fierce elm]

'secret sauce build'

[grand scaffold]

😎

[fierce elm]

Oh look

the same as everyone else lmfao

[green wharf]

dont be jealous just because you got no sauce

[copper fox]

I just looked at all of your specs

What’s so secret

[grand scaffold]

😂

[copper fox]

lol

[frank knoll]

I need to play on EU

[grand scaffold]

Is it showing me as arms or fury

[fierce elm]

Whats up with people wanting to play PHP

[copper fox]

Arms

[fierce elm]

then lining my sanc on the opener

[grand scaffold]

😎

[fierce elm]

whats up with that

"I should stand around the corner versus hunter when we play php" is a crazy idea

[grand scaffold]

You mean Cupid?

[fierce elm]

It is the same thing babyboo

[grand scaffold]

Oh

[copper fox]

It was called php first actually

[fierce elm]

Then my guy INSTA leaves

[grand scaffold]

Never knew that

[fierce elm]

and now me and this 10x glad hunter is in LFG lmfao

[fierce elm]

same with phdk etc etc

Cupid is for when your healer isn't a priest but aint nobody gonna be that specific

[copper fox]

Is your secret tech bitter immunity

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[frank knoll]

Why do I have an arm warrior and a SV up my ass and my Hpal healer doesn’t press BoP or freedom

[copper fox]

I qd into qfiend last night. Both fresh warriors

We played against a ret

[fierce elm]

BACK TO TEKKEN

[copper fox]

That bopd the second we both changed him

[green wharf]

If you play on NA why dont we team up dog

[lavish quest]

Rsham hard meta?

I'm seeing them a shit ton

[copper fox]

Yes

2400 rsham is like # 900

[lavish quest]

When tf did that happen?

[copper fox]

They just heal for free

Totems and instants

[frank knoll]

I’m down

[lavish quest]

Also, am I supposed to 5-1 uh/mm/ret?

:3

[frank knoll]

There’s a bug with mana tide totem too so they never go oom

[green wharf]

i can play arms and unholy

imma try to learn rshaman or MW in midnight

[frank knoll]

I’m playin MW rn

Or my huntard

[green wharf]

Syegfryed#11399

we can play tonight

[wheat jay]

stream

so we can see if syeg is good or bad

shuffle history says bad

[green wharf]

"if"

i am bad

[frank knoll]

You ready to see some 1800-2k game play ?

I say we duou queue blitz

[green wharf]

i got 2k on x2 last season
1.8k x3 this one

2.1k on shuffle in all 3 seasons

i think i got 2.1k in blitz too on hunter

why REt skills all go aoe, but as arms i have to press stupid sweeping strikes

[frank knoll]

I got 1.8x4 2kx1 this season

[green wharf]

we good to push glad

[frank knoll]

It would be funny if we streamed 2s and let Artji, Meth and Afro in voice comms so they can yell at us

[fierce elm]

no it wouldnt

[modest shadow]

i just had a draw in rbgb tf lol

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm @copper fox
How do we feel about "Gargoyle Curls"?

[copper fox]

Stop

[wheat jay]

Nah im a good guy

Id give tips to huntard syeg

[green wharf]

you need tips for hunter transmog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW_Lv0r-l4c

[green wharf]

When the burning crusade come out and horde got paladins, i wanted to shot myself, fucking paladins

dude is a legend

[modest shadow]

Looks like an amazing way to prolapse your butthole

[solemn elm]

ngl it’s my secret tech

i’m never not bitter

i’m a resto druid at times with impend + bitter

what can you even put that one flex slot into i guess auto attack speed talent?

there’s the normal flex slot with shatter etc but i’ve been trying to find something else cacophonous is worthless menace is the worst thing in this game

idek wat else

i can cleanse piss poisons or havoc on me with it too honestly

[scarlet trout]

what is this

is he trying to break something

[solemn elm]

gargoyle curls

[scarlet trout]

thats not a real thing

[fierce elm]

yes

keep going

[sharp meteor]

bitter used to be nice for the 100% crit reduce curse

also slow poison in bgs

[fickle forge]

We are so finished

[copper fox]

I use it occasionally

[haughty jewel]

Lowkey might just dip out rest of the season

[copper fox]

You’re probably safe on fury anyway

[scarlet trout]

W

[copper fox]

Actually

Nvm

You’re probably not lol

[copper fox]

Just grab a 5-1 or 6-0 on one of your fury and you’re safe tho

[wheat jay]

real

but now

there's only one leader left

lorthemar

lore chad

[green wharf]

he's 90% gonna die

[wheat jay]

ye 🙁

and then we're all out of wow leaders

[spice hornet]

Why Flokk?

[copper fox]

He’s gotta be trolling

Unless the 3s r1 push has burnt him out

lol

[grand scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/wide-vladimir-putin-russian-walking-gif-17506944

[grand scaffold]

WHAT

[wheat jay]

game too boring for you flokk?

[sharp meteor]

mage lobs so much more fun when u can convince team to kill the healer or other dps

no chasing immortal man of infinite blinks

[copper fox]

I just chased an arcane mage for 4 rounds but he wasn’t pressing cds

@ 2800 btw

lol

[frank knoll]

Ya everyone is always like “go mage”

[sharp meteor]

maybe its diff at high mmr but like

unless u have sustained reliable ranged dmg

and/or purges

u just use 90% of your resources chasing

instead of just tabbing and killing their fury warr through his wall

[copper fox]

It was awkward match ups for that game

It was uhdk assa arcane

I couldn’t convince anyone to not go mage

One game rogue died as Rmp from tsg cleave

[fickle forge]

This the shit I roll man

Or this shit

[scarlet trout]

why are they not playing gnome

[lavish quest]

Karg is throwing

[fickle forge]

Yeah I refuse to sac my bench press to play little man

[grand scaffold]

yo karg

what cr you at

[fickle forge]

Same as last you asked

I have about 2-6 weeks break between Qs

[grand scaffold]

q up rn

my fury cr tanked 100

[urban skiff]

soon i can snipe your queues and bring you down with me

[grand scaffold]

😂

[haughty jewel]

there hasnt been a 3s r1 push

game just boring but

ill probably like play all my chars

until i get 1 6-0

and then quit

[copper fox]

O I thought that’s what you were attempting

[wheat jay]

Some men prefer to keep their testosterone above sea level

[scarlet trout]

yeah but at what cost

losing to any dude with more than 1 cc button?

[wheat jay]

Just gotta not be dogshit

Top warrior is a maghar orc so there you go

One of top fury warrs is hm tauren

There's humans

Orcs

Gnome having best racial doesn't mean you HAVE to play it xD

[scarlet trout]

true

[wheat jay]

And next expansion plenty of specs lose cc, most lose roots

So gnome will lose value

[lavish quest]

Thank the lord

[scarlet trout]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-nerd-yelling-insult-gif-7884166

[wet pike]

This is the kind of bangers I expect to see from the Warrior PvP channel

[scarlet trout]

what game has plants as a deck archetype

[wet pike]

YuGiOh

[scarlet trout]

oh

too spensive for me

[wet pike]

In fact it's really good there

[scarlet trout]

900$ per deck

mtg only 400

[wet pike]

You sure you didn't switch those up? lol

[scarlet trout]

yes

pretty sure dimir control was 400 last year

and a single copy of little knight was pretty expensive in yugioh no?

but he was in a lot of decks

[wet pike]

You wouldn't play Little Knight in plants anyhow since you get locked into plants

But I believe the price has dropped with the reprints

[scarlet trout]

true

[wet pike]

I do believe yugioh is relatively cheap rn but don't quote me on that

The only expensive thing is making enough room in your head for the combo lines

(Why am I roasting my favourite card game like this)

[grand scaffold]

i wonder what isomer

🥀

[scarlet trout]

i dunno

[modest shadow]

x3 toys r us yu gi oh champion here

[copper fox]

20x pot of greed owner

[grand scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/relax-potofgreed-gif-2729689172193724850

[grand scaffold]

worst tcg game of all time

is hearthstone

most expensive to play game ive ever come across

especially in wild

[wet pike]

Hearthstone was fun
-# At launch

[grand scaffold]

hearthstone is very fun

but itll make you broke

in no time at all

[wet pike]

Good thing I didn't stick with it I suppose. It's a shame tho cause it's a really interesting game at its core, with all the spawning cards from outside the game and whatnot

It really does make the most out of being a digital only card game

[lavish quest]

@scarlet trout 1800 yet?

[modest shadow]

you didn't try to play mtg professionally then lol. far more expensive.

I remember my comp deck was around 1,200$ altogether at one point

I'm sure it's only got more expensive

that was 10 years ago lol

really didn't see my year starting off getting to 2,400

[tribal holly]

What good is a 1200$ deck if you are lacking skills to play the game

[lavish quest]

What good is skills at the game if I don't have the $1200 deck to support it?

[tribal holly]

If you have the skills you can compensate for the lack of money but no amount of money will make you and less of an idiot

[green wharf]

money is pretty good

[scarlet trout]

i played standard at star city games vegas

deck was like 400-500 dollars

[wheat jay]

Just pin his message

[lavish quest]

Play the card game with no cards

Good luck

[wheat jay]

Dropkick your opponents

Take their cards

Easy

[fickle forge]

I ate 1.2k cals for dinner

Feel like rupturing man

[wheat jay]

Only?

Brother you a skinny bitch

[fickle forge]

Thefuck did you eat for dinner

[scarlet trout]

1.2 cals for one dinner

clearly not american

[wheat jay]

Depends when, today was light, i had chicken salad

Yesterday were two cheese/egg/chicken tortillas

Two big chicken breasts

Gotta love them breasts

[scarlet trout]

1.2k cals 👍
1.2 kcals

[tribal holly]

Its free on steam

[wheat jay]

Card game talk reminded me of some old rts game where cards were used spawn your troops

Battleforge or sth like that

Was fun

[modest shadow]

I’m deep into Warhammer 40k lore because of the rts coming out

[grand scaffold]

I wasted 800$ on hearthstone and I regret it every time I think of it

😢

[fickle forge]

My highly non-biasted 3s tier list

[scarlet trout]

Wheres blood

And why is rogue next to hunter

[fickle forge]

Idk I prob dragged assassa up a tier by mistake

It's S

Blood Idk where at

[scarlet trout]

S tier!!

[fickle forge]

It's prob the only viable tank rn

[scarlet trout]

[green wharf]

hunter
Assassin is there

[sharp meteor]

actually in c tier

unlike the fake c tier specs such as aff and frost

[copper fox]

I dcd and lost 150 on the goat today

Goat dream dead

Was 2822

[elfin surge]

LMAO

so bad

[fickle forge]

You just don't get it NA man

[fickle forge]

Just win it back

See it as Blizz siding with Santi

[lone stone]

Yoooo guys

Quick question. Anybody know what fury is looking like in PvP for midnight ?

I've seen a lot of mixed opinions and figured I'd come in here and ask people who'd actually give me a real answer.

[fickle forge]

We'll look into the 8ball for you brother

[copper fox]

Fury is the best spec rn in midnight, similar to the way its the best for tww

[lone stone]

Works for me. I like it how it is

at least on slayer

I'm playing it either way I live n die by this shit

[copper fox]

[sharp meteor]

just need to delete colo and give all 3 specs slayer and thane

[copper fox]

Yep

[spice hornet]

Warrior is really OP into people who stand still

[sharp meteor]

colosus just feels so

eh

[copper fox]

Bro

I had a ele sham leave a shuffle

Now a rsham leave

I can’t win today

[sharp meteor]

ya end of seas lots of people afking out

[green wharf]

[sharp meteor]

if ur done with goals and just qing for fun and get a bad lob or cba why not leave

[spice hornet]

Cabal workin OT on Meth

[copper fox]

Rsham just goes

“Leaving because it’s a win trade”

[green wharf]

Send the cabal my regards

[copper fox]

And left round 2

[spice hornet]

[copper fox]

After he’s 0-2

[spice hornet]

Shuffle and classic wow really were the biggest 2 “you think you do but you don’t”

[copper fox]

Lmao

[solemn elm]

so cooked

always got people who are so full of themselves i had a rogue just go afk next round cause we didn’t attack the same person

[copper fox]

Just had another leave btw

Rdruid

That’s 3 today + a dc for me

AMA

[green wharf]

Today i had 3dcs and i wasnt even playing pvp

so maybe is a server issues

[lavish quest]

People don't tier list tanks because they're not real specs

[sharp meteor]

had a ragnaros ret run it down cos i failed to specify a prefered target in a timely manner

cos i was too busy adjusting my talents to tell my npc who to hit

[copper fox]

lol

[sharp meteor]

it's always the ones you most expect

[lavish quest]

@green wharf ?

[sharp meteor]

close talents see target? then a bunch of qustion marks then he runs in and dies

well done

most chaotic bracket

[green wharf]

im in the brazilian servers

[copper fox]

What’s the difference

[lavish quest]

^

[copper fox]

Is rag not Brazil

[sharp meteor]

unspecified region of players who alt f4 if u ping them once

[green wharf]

ragnaros is for the spanish talking people

[spice hornet]

Syeg are you employed or are you Brazilian Tony

[green wharf]

Right now im doing part-time job while taking a second degree in college

[spice hornet]

[sharp meteor]

[spice hornet]

Watched Tony stand afk in a volley after getting earth grabbed in 3s

For about 5 seconds

[spice hornet]

Hi Kennie. When are they makin you a valk in here

[sharp meteor]

Good question.

Also didn't know you had an ele.

[spice hornet]

Nah that’s my ele I q with a lot

Need to send his tag to meth keep
Forgetting

[scarlet trout]

qfiend doesnt play shaman

[spice hornet]

You don’t play the game

[scarlet trout]

i play the game

no need to be hurtful

[sharp meteor]

oh

my mage just knock dc'd him

[worldly oriole]

My computer graphics freeze, and i stand in place sometimes @spice hornet

while it reloads

[frank knoll]

I feel like
If it wasn’t for shuffle
LFG would be more active

[worldly oriole]

had a sick battlefield match today

xD

[frank knoll]

WW too high on there tbh

[copper fox]

Lmfao assa in the hunter tier is actually hilarious

[shut tangle]

okay thank you

[solemn elm]

he’s goated

and funny asf

he always rages

[nimble jasper]

man

i love getting z axis map and wizard partner in shuffle be like, just sit a frost mage

yeah let me be right on that

[spice hornet]

Yeah he does

Makes me feel like the worst warr ever

[solemn elm]

LOOL same

[solemn elm]

he loves me recently though he hits me up to play constantly

[urban skiff]

tortollan shaman WHEN???

I would gladly accept 10% reduced movement speed and the cosmetic tax to be a turtle

[wheat jay]

technically thats panda

[urban skiff]

Maybe, but you just know they're going to make tortollan racials an absolute menace

[green anchor]

https://i.imgur.com/jN7iHiN.png

Another amazing MM hunter on my server

[spice hornet]

That 2s win loss holy fk

[urban skiff]

this quest made me bawl my eyes out

[urban skiff]

hands down the best argument for playing BM in Midnight is these mice

[bright kraken]

what is this

yuck

[green anchor]

lol

average MM player

or derank service member idk

[bright kraken]

is KFChi a comp this season

like is it playable

[wheat jay]

Yes

But there's warrior

So its bad

[bright kraken]

?

bro

kfchi

hunter/monk

[wheat jay]

wtf

you made that up

also

same thing

except even less utility for you

and dr'd cc

[fickle forge]

I dragged it by accident, it's in S below UDK

[fickle forge]

No she right

It's called KFChi

[fickle forge]

And no, it isn't, cause WW blows

[green wharf]

i love how m+ heroes on the foruns shit on shuffle saying isnt real pvp

[frank knoll]

How tf

[wheat jay]

lmao

[wheat jay]

cuz it isnt???

they're correct xD

[green wharf]

but its always the 0 rating people saying that

[wheat jay]

doesnt mean they cant be right about it

[green wharf]

i mean, the high ranking people from x3 is the same from shuffle, so i dont see much difference

[wheat jay]

you look at the absolute top of hte ladder sure

then its going to be the same people in all brackets

2s, 3s, shuffle, blitz

top blitz players are multiglads or multi r1

but

if you look at 2400 people

most of 2400 shuffle players have never broke 2100 in any other brackets

random ret

another random ret

another

another

but hey its ret

maybe its not accurate

[green wharf]

well, if you dont have a group you cant rly do it

[wheat jay]

lets look at fury maybe?

same shit

[wheat jay]

thats cap tho

lfg was always there, and lfg was faster than shuffle q is now

saying it took ages to play lfg is a fat fucking cap

especially since pvp was more popular

3s were the only endgame bracket

so no contest with shuffle

[green wharf]

"lfg" is always there isnt rly a good argument when pugging is shit and people rather avoid because they dont want to do it

Its more not wanting to deal with it rather than not being able to do it

[wheat jay]

now, sure

but before hsuffle

it was the only way to do it

it worked

it was fast

people saying it took ages to lfg a teammate are absolute idiots who probably wanted awc champions and needed CV and referrals

hell, even in legion lfg 2s took fucking 5 minutes max

[wheat jay]

pugging is shit if youre shit 👍

[fickle forge]

What's the difference between lfg and shuffle giving you teammates though?

[green wharf]

if there are no difference you cant say shuffle isnt real pvp right ?

[wheat jay]

difference is how easy it is due to inflation and randomness of wins

for example, going to first blood is absolute bullshit

someone drops to 5% with healer in cc, but other dude dies 0.5s faster

cant even attempt to win 2v2 like i could in arena

you can't just rng win 6 rounds for 70cr in 3s

like you can in shuffle

you won't be facing 0xp 0cr 0gear people at 2.1kmmr like you did in 3s

you can't get elite in 12 games in 3s like people do now in shuffles and making reddit posts about it

people were fucking elite with negative winrate in shuffle

how are you elite, start of season, with negative winrate

[fickle forge]

It's the damp changes that makes it scuffed

[wheat jay]

that too

[fickle forge]

Healers are literally fighting at half power 1 min into the round

It's scuffed

[green wharf]

It is a inferior mode and ia gree with that, but saying isnt real pvp seems dumb to me , like saying heroic raid isnt real raid

[urban skiff]

@green wharf zul'jarra is pure waifu material

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

Man I've found a devourer build that feels like cheating

every 3rd global is void ray

[wheat jay]

People get 2400 in 12 games

You can get 1800 in 3

Or 4

It's not real pvp

Its pve with cc

[urban skiff]

cap is 94 per win

so will take 3.2 lobbies to get 1800

but if you win more than 16 rounds or ~2½ lobbies you lose the sprint bonus

[hushed plank]

What day does this season end ?

[green wharf]

19

allegedly

[hushed plank]

Is it the night of the 18 for the states ?

[urban skiff]

so you need to aim for under 89% winrate to get to 1800 with the least number of shuffles

[wet pike]

ngl would have expected "KFChi" to be boomkin+monk

[urban skiff]

I missed the window on my dk and had to slowclimb the rest of the way to 1800

[green wharf]

it just means you need to put the cutting off for good people above this, like by example, if someone get legend in Shuffle, is he still a scrub who doesnt do real pvp? doesnt seems like its the case to me

[urban skiff]

just normalize ratings around ladder position and be done with it

[fickle forge]

KFC as a name never really made sense

But it was made before monks came out

[green wharf]

i never understand these fucking names

pvp have

[wet pike]

I mean I get Jungle (feral + hunter) that one makes sense

Tho tbf that's like the only one I remember

RMP also

But that's just the class initials

[wheat jay]

He is, afro is legend, so was leland iirc

On a serious note, the entire format of shuffle is just scuffed

Short rounds, dampening kicking in to 60% or so in 3-4 minutes, ability to gain absurd amounts of rating by winning the lottery

Goal of the game being rushing through cds, not even trading properly cuz there's no time for that

Cc setups not existing cuz there's no coordination or communication, and if you can extend cc chains you most likely will demolish till top of the ladder xD

[fickle forge]

Is Dailyshuffle good at the game?

[wet pike]

For me it's the ability to go even and move 0 rating, especially on healers. Like, it makes sense with how rating/mmr is set up, but it just feels bad sometimes

[jovial torrent]

they need to commit to either 3v3 or solo shuffle , then rework healers to fit that gametype

[wheat jay]

Going even is a loss tho

[jovial torrent]

and from the looks of the playerbase they need to commit to shuffle

[wheat jay]

Waste of time

[jovial torrent]

or atleast rework it to solo q 3v3

[wet pike]

Atleast the honor rewards for going even are almost as big as winning

[fickle forge]

3v3 is the arena I love

Shuffle is a sandbox meme

[wet pike]

but man I could use like 5 rating for my ego

[copper fox]

1 round solo q would be absolutely atrocious

Flex 3s

Would be the worst game mode ever made tbh

In wow

[jovial torrent]

i like arena but bulletin board lfg is dead

in gaming in genral

[fickle forge]

I'd q 3s, but my team is fighting

[wet pike]

Tell your team to stop fighting and start teamfighting... in 3s!

[wheat jay]

Dont confuse gaming in general with pvp games like league or apex or some shit

[jovial torrent]

i mean most games now are live service , gacha gambling or solo q multiplayer

[barren zinc]

i play pvp roughly for 2 weeks,but i noticed a lot of win traders

[fierce elm]

I like Solo Shuffle

[fierce elm]

kek

[hot solstice]

Well at least when ppl wanna join me in 3s and write shuffle exp I 100% know I shouldnt invite them

[wheat jay]

Yep

[barren zinc]

which melee class we struggle vs

[green wharf]

all of then

[jovial torrent]

i been playing gw1 past month or so btw artji, been reallll chill

[hot solstice]

ret

[wheat jay]

Nice

[hot solstice]

rogue

[wheat jay]

I didnt have time for it

[jovial torrent]

ive just been chilling doing the story missions slowly on a new char and then doing some of the events like christmas event

[fickle forge]

Nobody is win trading at entry mmr bro

[jovial torrent]

it has made this last month of tww brutal tho trying to come back do remix and get the 1800 mogs on chars i want lol

[barren zinc]

wdym nobody

people leave and dont cast spells

[wheat jay]

Thats cuz they suck

[barren zinc]

and in enemy team they play

[wheat jay]

Its not wintrading

[fickle forge]

You're seeing things

[barren zinc]

they are afk in my team and play in other

[jovial torrent]

i wouldnt be surpsied if theres giga tilted afk ppl who are trying to push for 2100 enchant and cant quite get there

[fickle forge]

@wheat jay Just made a fresh warr, log your fresh sham so we can win trade

[wheat jay]

Nice

[green wharf]

why not, if someone buy a boost for elite, they need to go all the way

is like saying people dont buy low lv keys

[barren zinc]

these egoistic people in this chat

jesus

lol

[fickle forge]

Brother you can't win trade at entry mmr

[barren zinc]

xD

[fickle forge]

It's cap

[barren zinc]

this guy is a legit troll

im out

[fickle forge]

See ya

[hot solstice]

its called gatekeeping

2100 2400 etc

[fickle forge]

Gl on the win trade battle

[wheat jay]

If you're losing at starting mmr, then its you issue brother, its shuffle, gotta carry to win

[barren zinc]

its not that how can i play if people afk

xD

[wheat jay]

You ain't gonna get carried, maybe once every 20 lobbies

Well, send dps meters

[hot solstice]

wait for wintrade in 3s when they send 3rd 2ble agent guy to ur team

[wheat jay]

Or endgame bracket

[fickle forge]

The cabal strikes once again

I picked up a guy in lfg, but turns out I was actually helping a win trader get his 1600

[barren zinc]

you a real hero

[fickle forge]

It's pretty fire fr

Kroeger got that dawg in him

[fierce elm]

It is pretty much impossible to wintrade at 2k

Like the entire point of wintrading is queueing into each other

nobody is selling wintrading at those ratings because it isnt profitable

Thats about it

[fickle forge]

Nah

The cabal covers every angle

Every corner

[fierce elm]

If you are running into a ”ton of wintraders” at 2k then most likely you are just running into bad players

or they just have a bad game

[fickle forge]

I once joined the cabal to snipe Zercher's sub rogue

[fierce elm]

Like damn brothers

I love all of you and all rating is good rating

[green wharf]

i dont think there are tons no

[fierce elm]

but not all rating is equivalent in every way

[green wharf]

one in a blue moon kind of deal

same for cheaters

[fierce elm]

Because again, wintrading at starting mmr is not profitable

[green wharf]

they are there but tis rare

[fierce elm]

Also people leaving is the OPPOSITE of wintrading

lmao

[fickle forge]

Cheaters are more common than win traders at 2k

[fierce elm]

like damn lmfao

Been playing consistently at top 0-200 in SS for the entire season

havent met a single wintrader or cheater

crazy

[fickle forge]

You did meet a kickbot

[green wharf]

this season i got 2 lag switcher cheaters in shuffle

and one guy who was apparently wintrading

"apparently"

meaning afk against one group

[fickle forge]

Lag switchers???

[green wharf]

then playing aainst other

[green wharf]

its the cheat it appeares the guy is lagging

but he is jsut teleporting

[fierce elm]

Did I

I havent seen a kickbot in SS either

[fickle forge]

I'm very surr that's a Blizzard thing

[green wharf]

and becomes immune

[fickle forge]

Not a lag switch

It happens to everyone

[green wharf]

no its a cheat

[fierce elm]

There is a lag switch thing

[green wharf]

there is a guild called "we are not getting banned"

that does that

and they in fact

[fickle forge]

Fr?

Damn

[green wharf]

are not getting banned

[fierce elm]

however, in the examples Syeg provided NONE of them got anything beneficial from it

lmao

But yes, it does exist

It is mighty rare though

[green wharf]

what you mean they dont get anything

i wasnt talking about that match with zercher

[fierce elm]

The clips you sent they got nothing from it

You sent one clip

Zercher sent another

[fickle forge]

Resend clip

[fierce elm]

The clip you sent was some rando youtube video

[green wharf]

i sent one from shadowlands and other from TWW

[fierce elm]

Yeah

[green wharf]

they get immune during that time, dunno how isnt benneficial

[fickle forge]

Zercher's clip is from a match?

[hushed plank]

I still run into the stop casts bots sometimes making it to where they never get kicked and always precog

[green wharf]

the one even won the match due to it

[fierce elm]

They didnt get anything lmao

[fierce elm]

Ya

[wheat jay]

its not...

[fierce elm]

He was not lag switching

[fierce elm]

The hunter versus deva?

When the deva had 5% HP

and the hunter had almost half or full hp

[fickle forge]

@urban skiff Send the lag switch clip

[green wharf]

and the deva kills him

yeah

[fierce elm]

The hunter kills the deva

[hushed plank]

So for the US does the season stop the night of the 18th?

[fierce elm]

If i remember correctly

[fierce elm]

Night before patch day

[urban skiff]

Which one of them?

[fickle forge]

Latest one from your games

[fierce elm]

The pres that tried to sleepwlak in 2s

[fickle forge]

I just wanna see it

[urban skiff]

Presevoker

I also have a teleporting warrior

[fickle forge]

Just gibe clipo

[green wharf]

#pvp message

[fickle forge]

I wanna see how far the cabal has come

[green wharf]

its the hunter who lag switch

and kills the deva

by being immune

[urban skiff]

yea y ea i'm searching

[green wharf]

i also heard that when you use this, you can use spells and they dont go on CD

but i cant proof

[urban skiff]

#pvp message

Looks like the clip was lost from my local files because of the volume of games I've played recently

the clip is lost, the master file isn't

[fickle forge]

Idk about that one

Doesn't seem too sus

[urban skiff]

felt sus though

[fickle forge]

The last tp was just his own yeah?

[urban skiff]

I could probably go into the combat log and pull up what he was doing at the timestamp but that feels like a lot of work

[fierce elm]

thats what I said

[fierce elm]

yeah thats not a thing lmao

[fierce elm]

it isnt sus

bevause he doesnt gain anything from it

[urban skiff]

that's a horrible metric though

[fierce elm]

like damn ”I lagswitched so I misse sleep walk then died”

lmao

Is it?

[urban skiff]

Yes

[green wharf]

but how gets no bennefits, if he won

[urban skiff]

bad players cheat too

[fierce elm]

Its much better to think that every lagging polish person is lagswitching

[fierce elm]

I CANT REMEMBER THE CLUP

BUT FROM WHAT I CAN RECALL HE WOULD HAVE WON ANYWAYS BECAUSE DEVA HAD NO HP

[green wharf]

But i dont think the guy in the zerch video is cheating

the lag switch happens more than that

[fierce elm]

AGAIN, ITS JUST AS ANECDOTAL AS EVERYTHING ELSE

[green wharf]

like, it teleports as crazy

its more common in blitz

[fierce elm]

my guy is just lagging

[urban skiff]

how

[green wharf]

Nah, the deva was going to win, dude became immune to all the deva damage

[wheat jay]

syeg

its not lagswitch

its just lagging

[urban skiff]

He's being moved to places he wasn't near at any point

[wheat jay]

he became immune cuz he was probably miles away

[green wharf]

Im not talking about this video

you twink

[wheat jay]

ye i know you moron i meant you

noone is lagswitching your placement games

[green wharf]

and you know that because

[wheat jay]

because its placements

[green wharf]

you dont even play wow

sush

[wheat jay]

and i played on level youll never even get close to

adn even there noone lagswitched

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm I still think it's a bit sus

[green wharf]

you are not a real trailblazer

you are sheep

🐑

[urban skiff]

he jumps in, initiates a sheep, then he disappears way out of range to a place he wasn't able to get near without a teleport

and this stuff isn't lag

straight up not regular lag possible

[wheat jay]

...

[urban skiff]

Remember I grew up with the 90s internet and the old WoW where lag was possible

[fierce elm]

send the clip

[fierce elm]

WDYM HOE

HOW

DUDES JUST LAGGING

[urban skiff]

THAT'S NOT HOW LAG WORKS

[fierce elm]

My guy straight up dies without using a single ability

”Not lagging”

lmao

LIKE DAMN

[urban skiff]

LAG DOESN'T PUT YOU IN PLACES YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO OR WERE PROJECTED TO MOVE TO

[fierce elm]

I PROMISE YOU HE ISNT LAGSWITCHING

[urban skiff]

I DON'T SAY HE'S LAG SWITCHING, THAT'S OTHER PEOPLE

[fierce elm]

That is sort of how it has locked since I ever started playing wow

[urban skiff]

I'M SAYING THE CLIP IS STRAIGHT UP WEIRD

[green wharf]

#pvp message

[green wharf]

not even i said that

these guys are balding

[fierce elm]

it aint

[urban skiff]

Again, I grew up with 90s internet and I grew up with early day WoW where everyone had shit internet

[wheat jay]

?????

thats so stupid

[fierce elm]

he is taking damage

[urban skiff]

I know what lag looks like

[fierce elm]

LAG SWITCHING AND WINTRADING

New year is starting out great lmao

[urban skiff]

RECORDING IS FROM THE 30TH DECEMBER

THIS IS 2025 STUFF

[green anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/im-having-a-connection-issue-gif-18822004

[green wharf]

brother i have lag to this very day

[fierce elm]

2025 ending great

We got ”wintraders” at 2k mmr

[green wharf]

cause SA doesnt have their own servers

its PAIN

[fierce elm]

and ”lag switching”

Yeah SA is fucked

So is Africa

[green anchor]

lmfao

[green wharf]

lag switching is a thing afro, you like or not

[wheat jay]

y'all got brainlags i swear

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

like no joke that is probably what Ndogo looks like to some people

[green anchor]

even AUS got them before ya'll

[vapid tartan]

I am wintrading at 2k

[fierce elm]

You havent been lagswitched

lmao

[green wharf]

even if they did SA servers

it would be shit

cause there are no one left to play

[fierce elm]

kek

[green wharf]

so its not a good trade

[fierce elm]

Anyways gotta work now babes

[green wharf]

The BR WoW community is dead

[urban skiff]

Before I deleted them I had clips of rogues and ferals who for inexplicable reasons would lag around like they were permanently using outlaw's old Killing Spree but only during their offensive cooldowns and never outside

[fierce elm]

I have clips of me winning 4 billion bucks

[green wharf]

THIS

is the lag switching

[green anchor]

that's a huge stable

[urban skiff]

sounds like you're that Blue girl a run for her money?

Whatshername amanda?

[fierce elm]

lmfao

If only my clips of me winning 1 billion bucks was still around smh

Yall aint being lagswitched and wintraded

Thats about it

ANYWAYS gotta work now

Someone is wintrading at my job

[urban skiff]

bonnie

[green wharf]

Afro is seething

[urban skiff]

stop working on a saturday

[fierce elm]

cash money

[urban skiff]

Devourer can't cast blink during their spellcasts

kind of stupid

let me blink during eyebeam

[lavish quest]

Thought you were becoming Tony again?

[fierce elm]

What

I am never gonna be unemployed living off my moms

[urban skiff]

@green wharf oh boy I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY LIKE THE AWESOME TROLL RACE I'VE BEEN PLAYING ALONGSIDE

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

nothing could possibly go wrong

[green wharf]

yeah, its very underwhelming

its just 2 skin options i think

and 'hair" options

that i never saw

[lavish quest]

Thought you were being rejected from your intern company

[fierce elm]

I got a full time job that I was takign time off to study from

so back at that place

Until the intern company calls me this month or next

Though I am going back there soon becasue I gotta drop off clothes etc

[urban skiff]

DORKSPEER

[green wharf]

Lmao

[fierce elm]

its so wack

I hate blizzard

die

[green wharf]

whats the new hair option

[urban skiff]

i have no clue

nothing is marked as special

Making it a cosmetic to zanda troll would have been more accurate

Zul'aman has not a single hunchback troll

just troll heads on female orc bodies

[green wharf]

they were too busy giving both factions furry elves

Bro, this would be such a no brainer

put furry elves in the alliance

amani trolls on horde

everyone wins

People working there are fucking morons

[urban skiff]

haranir too popular

[green wharf]

They arent

[urban skiff]

but they could have put troll heads on them for horde and kept haranir heads for alliance

[green wharf]

thats the worst part

[urban skiff]

and called them separate racecs

[green wharf]

in the official foruns their megathread dont have 20 upvotes

its a dogwater race

people got hyped in the trailler and it died out

[urban skiff]

enough with the fucking portals

[lavish quest]

So Tony is still alone

Artji coulda been his best friend, but he got a job

[worldly oriole]

I need to win lottery

Or find a cozy job

[barren zinc]

is arms really that stronger then fury in pvp

[wheat jay]

ye cant be with tony, imma be busy getting mdrt this year O_O

[fierce elm]

arms is better yes

[barren zinc]

i'm soon glad with arms

its not so hard ,just if people dont afk

[fierce elm]

what

[barren zinc]

what

[fierce elm]

Nothing

I refuse the bait

[barren zinc]

im not baiting

[fierce elm]

If you are soon glad with arms which is playing 3v3

meaning premade groups

[barren zinc]

no

[fierce elm]

how is someone afk in your team

[wheat jay]

meaning no shuffle

[barren zinc]

in solo shuffle

[fierce elm]

So you are elite

not glad

[wheat jay]

then youre not glad

shuffle is elite

not glad

[fierce elm]

Its different

[barren zinc]

wdym different

so solo shuffle glad

[wheat jay]

literally what we said

[green wharf]

[wheat jay]

no

[barren zinc]

is not the same as 3v3 glad

wtf is that

why

[wheat jay]

solo shuffle does not have a gladiator title

that is only in 3s

[barren zinc]

really

[wheat jay]

3v3

yes

really

[barren zinc]

i never knew that

im new to pvp

[wheat jay]

now you do

[barren zinc]

so getting 2400 in solo shuffle is nothing special?

[wheat jay]

2400 in shuffle, gives you elite

[barren zinc]

i played the wrong mode then

[wheat jay]

and winning 100 rounds while being above 2400 in shuffle gives you legend title

winning 50 games above 2400 in 3v3 gives you gladiator title and gladiator mount

[wheat jay]

if you want gladiator mount, then yes

wrong mode

[fierce elm]

WoW PvP isnt at all convoluted

[wheat jay]

if only people could read

or use google

or use wowhead

or read

[green wharf]

what

are you a nerd?

[wheat jay]

shush duelistfryed

[barren zinc]

fuck

[wheat jay]

well

good luck on your 3v3 journey

[barren zinc]

my g

why ur so toxic sup with you

you good?

some pushups maybe

running

[urban skiff]

cardio is for bunnies

[wheat jay]

^

lifting > cardio

[urban skiff]

I only train to explode my heart

[wheat jay]

and how am I toxic?

i just answered your questions

[urban skiff]

Straight up, mix amphetamines and monster and training

[wheat jay]

real, stroke speedrun is the way to go

[urban skiff]

Let's be real, losing consciousness from catastrophic loss of blood pressure has to be the least painful way to go

[barren zinc]

well u clearly dont do any of those

[urban skiff]

So explody heart is the way to go

[wheat jay]

could be true

[wheat jay]

[urban skiff]

Won't have time to panic and regret how life went

[wheat jay]

why would you regret?

anyway, imma make dinner, y'all have fun with lagswitchers and wintraders at starting mmr

[fickle forge]

Only Artji would take the low hanging bait like that

[wheat jay]

possibly

hard to discern if its bait or not if he seems to actually know nothing sooooooo

ye

[fickle forge]

I mean he doesn't

[urban skiff]

I have kids, I can only assume no matter how much time i spend with them, i will regret not spending more with them

[fickle forge]

But it's also bait

[wheat jay]

spend more

[fierce elm]

HE IS BAITING

[urban skiff]

I can't, they're monsters

[fierce elm]

LIKE DAMN

[fickle forge]

D A M N

[urban skiff]

One wants to main hunter and the other chews power cables

[fickle forge]

What did I just SAY man

[fierce elm]

LIKE DAMN

Sorry I am ignoring everyone and reacting

[fickle forge]

Artji style

[fierce elm]

Your style too

nerdsss

[fickle forge]

React to the headline of an article describing Midnight right now

[fierce elm]

go get r1 in SS noob

[wheat jay]

Elfs void xalatath feet

[fickle forge]

I'm busy playing survival rn man

[fierce elm]

Im playing TEKKEN

fighting people

[fickle forge]

Thought you had work

[fierce elm]

like a real man

I am at work rn

[wheat jay]

You could be playing 3s to finally get glad?

[fickle forge]

No

Afro hates James

[fierce elm]

check out my sweet shoes

[fickle forge]

And his new healer hates warrior

[fierce elm]

I’d rather enjoy life than force myself to play a game based on a random reward that will have no meaning 3 years into the future

Weird take, I know

[fickle forge]

Weird take with how much you grind said game yes

[urban skiff]

You've heard of AI slop, this is the introduction of AFRO SLOP

[green wharf]

[rancid granite]

someone said 'never skip foot day' and you said 'bet'

[fickle forge]

I can't believe that Forcedlizard has a positive win rate

[green wharf]

its a.i brother

[urban skiff]

literally who

[rancid granite]

i'm too boomer to tell 😭

[wheat jay]

You say after having 37/50 like 5 times now

[fickle forge]

You never heard of Forcedlizard?

[urban skiff]

nop

[fickle forge]

This guy hasn't heard of Forcedlizard @fierce elm

[fierce elm]

I dont think I grind the game

[fickle forge]

Where was this shit on Christmas man

[fierce elm]

400 rounds ss, like 300 3s games?

[fierce elm]

Weird how I quit without regret

and still dont regret it lmao

[fickle forge]

You are about 1k games deep this season

Across brackets

[fierce elm]

400 rounds on Ret, 300 3s games

Dk, warrior, sham has like 100 rounds total

Sham might be up to 100 3s games

dk is below 40

[fickle forge]

Afro you have 450 3s games on ret

[fierce elm]

Warrior is below 30

Idk what I have man

But I dont think having 1k games across my ENTIRE account is grinding the game brother lmfao

[fickle forge]

Yah you have 1k games across brackets on your ret lmao

[fierce elm]

Idk how many rounds I got

[fickle forge]

Not a grinder like Dailyshuffle is, but you definitely play

[fierce elm]

last time I checked it was 400

NO SHIT I PLAY THE GAME

[wheat jay]

You grind the game afro

Thats not logging on weekend for some chill time

[fierce elm]

But you say it like I spend every waking moment palying the game

GRINDING

lmao

[wheat jay]

You grind habibi

[lavish quest]

Mdrt?

[fierce elm]

I mean that is what I have been doing

outside of that week where I did play SS like mad

[wheat jay]

Endgame in insurances

Its like getting glad

[undone geyser]

can i ask something to you guys. is it hard to get 1800 right now ?

[green wharf]

playing like mad, you mean grinding?

[fierce elm]

Where I hit 2.4+Legend in like 2 days lmfao

[wheat jay]

Bo

[fierce elm]

Not really

an open ended question though

[lavish quest]

Not really

[wheat jay]

And then you grind to higher rating

[fierce elm]

Yeah where I play weekends

[wheat jay]

Anyway, you play a lot