pvp

[copper fox]

I’ll only play weekends starting at like 12am now

Lmao

2900

[frank knoll]

No mm or vw nerfs

[sharp meteor]

ya thats where the grind comes in

cos u only want high games

until then u q pisslow alts

to 2700 or so

i gotta queue soon im wiped out by midnight these days

and degens stay up til 5 am

stupid methed out teenagers

[copper fox]

It’s also luck based. You roll a teamfight map with hansol, dean and Gbd assa vs the other team rolling 3 randoms lucky to be at that mmr lmao

[sharp meteor]

ya

very coinflippy

[copper fox]

Or a FC map with rev or Seth on pres

Vs 2 priests

[sharp meteor]

yep

yep

it almost feels like a wintrade how

badly lopsided games are

based on comps

[copper fox]

Yep lol

[wheat jay]

so, this proves our earlier point taht blitz is pve?

xD

[sharp meteor]

just get 2 boomkins 2 assa on deephaul or silvershard

[copper fox]

It’s a mix… pvp game knowledge is insanely important

[sharp meteor]

they die like

[wheat jay]

and once actual pvp players do it they just dominate and fuck pvers in the ass there?

[sharp meteor]

60 times total

[sharp meteor]

um

i mean its a comp thing

if u get 3 rogues on ab or deepwind

u just win

[wheat jay]

xd

[sharp meteor]

if u get outlaw and enh on deephaul u lose

[copper fox]

I rolled a deep haul with Ashlet and hansol last night

Guess who won tf

lol

[sharp meteor]

if u get rev or seth or alex on warsong or tp vs like an rdruid u win

u just load in see who u got

can predict outcome like

80% of the time

i feel

[copper fox]

100%

[sharp meteor]

just 50-50 the 3300 mmr games til ur like

giga cr

[copper fox]

Like when I saw that deephaul and the other team had 2 dks and bleeds feral Druid

I knew I won

Ashlet destro, hansol fire vs that?

All day

[sharp meteor]

whats his face

the assa who kills everybody

[copper fox]

Gdb?

[sharp meteor]

its like u get him bob hansol

enemy team dies in 4 seconds

nah the bg one

jmack

couldnt remember his name

[copper fox]

Firstdegree? I’m not sure

Yea

[sharp meteor]

i see an eots get wiped mid in like 15 seconds

like aight

[copper fox]

Yea I had firstdegree on mines last night that’s jmack

We insta wiped lava

[sharp meteor]

ye

[copper fox]

Also for some reason

Even at 3k

No one targets warriors?

So I 3-5 stack dw

lol

[sharp meteor]

watchin the yerm 2 shot people with dw

ya

[copper fox]

Dude yerm lost us a lines yesterday

He threw hard

Seth was mad

Lmao

[frank knoll]

Ur playin DW? Broooo

[sharp meteor]

i remember i logged my rogue and played 1 blitz

and seth whispers me and asks why im not on a tank

[frank knoll]

I gotta start playing DW again

[copper fox]

You 100% play dw as thane

[copper fox]

Lmfao

[sharp meteor]

dw is like why u play thane

[copper fox]

^

[sharp meteor]

if ur ahead or have a healer

u just

2 hit people on cd

arms does nothing

fury withotu dw does nothing

ur like a bm hunter pet

u do okay dmg

thats it

[copper fox]

Yea basically

[sharp meteor]

in a game where pres rogue mage and team fighters decide the match

like warr is "solid"

but death wish swings games

so

[copper fox]

I insta 1 stack dw every team fight just to feel it out

[sharp meteor]

ya

[copper fox]

Then go more once it’s safe

[sharp meteor]

if u dont go in first

they dont target u

blitz players are like npcs

first red bar = hit them

or if ur a warlock/boomie

[frank knoll]

Thane DW is self care

[sharp meteor]

i had like 40 killing blows one game at like 3100

[copper fox]

Also

[sharp meteor]

cos i just pve'd their team to pieces

[copper fox]

Leech build btw

Insane tech

Leech enchants

• talent

Mega heals

Played it last night for the first time

[frank knoll]

I need to try this and actually queue blitz

[copper fox]

It’s so good

[sharp meteor]

aint tried that hmm

[copper fox]

It’s the flokk tech I stole

It’s insane

[spice hornet]

Blitz sounds like high quality gameplay

[copper fox]

Leech on wrists and cloak + talent

[frank knoll]

I love BGs
I either solo carry the whole game or die to a coordinated premade
Blitz is the answer

[copper fox]

Yes

[copper fox]

It’s for professionals only

[frank knoll]

Premades are cringe
Buncha 40 year old losers puffing their thc vape in disc “go warrior go warrior go warrior”

[copper fox]

lol

[urban skiff]

What if theres no dk

[sharp meteor]

zercher pretending he has nameplates enabled

[urban skiff]

How much % leech is that?

[copper fox]

I’ll check later idk off hand

[urban skiff]

Ok that's fair, kennie

[frank knoll]

@copper fox do u take disarm in blitz

I did a random with Covlol today and he told me I was inting not taking disarm

[spice hornet]

Meth doesn’t even take that ability in arena

[frank knoll]

I have a focus disarm macro for arena lol

[spice hornet]

What’s that

[copper fox]

The only time you take disarm is for market or BS vs warrior

Otherwise no

You never do

[frank knoll]

Q bruh

[copper fox]

If cov said it for any other reason

He’s wrong

You need deathwish for FC maps too

You’re usually D and you don’t get targeted

It’s a free 5 stack

Wiping their O

[frank knoll]

Okay

[spice hornet]

Zercher is a man of good taste

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-austin-stonecold-beer-wrestling-wwf-gif-4849082

[copper fox]

Lmao

[urban skiff]

Monster about to put Muds coterie of egirls out of business

[frank knoll]

@copper fox are you trolling about a Leech build

I’m looking and not seeing anything

[urban skiff]

Any what?

[frank knoll]

Fury leech blitz build

[copper fox]

No? It’s flokks main build and he’s # 1 and it’s mine now too and I’m # 2 lol
This isn’t something you’d be able to google

It’s secret tech

[frank knoll]

Are you “Adrian”

[copper fox]

No I’m anabolic

[sharp meteor]

[copper fox]

#2

Sec I’ll send build here

CgEArbixk/ZKwTdpZGVHeylmLAAAAAAAAAQjhZmlxMLMLDmZhZmZMwYGbbzMzMzsBzMjhZGLDzMGzAAAgYmltxCbWWMTjZmhJzGjxCA

@frank knoll

this is a thane teamfight build

so

eots, deephaul, silver etc

[frank knoll]

Okay
And full leech enchant

[copper fox]

i swap leech for intervene on FC maps

yes

cloak and wrist

on FC maps play intervene tho

not leech

talent

[frank knoll]

I think murlok is wrong

[sharp meteor]

eu

[copper fox]

oh im hidden rn ill unhind in a mid

[frank knoll]

Okay i see

[spice hornet]

Who is #3

[copper fox]

Some random

lol

[copper fox]

2100 highest 3s

2500 highest ss in DF

lol

[spice hornet]

[copper fox]

As long as I can keep timing my Qs right

I’m getting this title

[spice hornet]

srsly just need like 10 r1 spots per spec for soloq brackies

[sharp meteor]

maybe shuff

blitz is like

[copper fox]

Yea 10 for ss and 5 for blitz

Imo

[sharp meteor]

if ur a human and care enough u will get it

[copper fox]

3 for tanks

[sharp meteor]

there are some absolute

PLANTS

with blitz r1

on warlock and mage even

had some 1900 mage losing every round in a 2k shuff and he had prized marshal like huh

[copper fox]

Lmao

[sharp meteor]

figured alt in greens and thats just his peak cr in shuff

[copper fox]

Was it kalwish

By any chance

[sharp meteor]

i dont recall it was like a dracthyr though with a history of being rival

[wheat jay]

why are ppl memeing kalwish recently xD?

im all for it

but why XD

[copper fox]

Kalwish is a blitz mage he plays at like 3k+ but he’s literally a challenger

He’s a bot

Idk

I think kalvish got pretty popular because of awc and blitz in tww so

[sharp meteor]

because he's a plant

[frank knoll]

I’m glad I suck
Cause I don’t have to like min max my queue times and shit

[copper fox]

Just boosted another warr

Bought midnight

ama

[urban skiff]

Do you think there's anything that makes it work especially well for fury? Perhaps having an easier time with uptime?

Or that it's just straight working for other specs too

[wheat jay]

you mean the awc dude?

[sharp meteor]

no

[wheat jay]

i remember some caster in awc memeing that he's got a spaceship ai or something xD

[urban skiff]

Plant as in houseplant or plant as in someone planted him there?

[green anchor]

Gotta love rogue players at low rating

They all get so mad when they lose

[urban skiff]

not all of us

[green anchor]

seething because I won 5-1

[wheat jay]

at high ratings too

90% of rogues have some weird superhero main character syndrome

"I WILL CARRY THE GAME CUZ I PLAY THE HARDEST SPEC AND I DESERVE ALL THE WINS"

[green anchor]

I fucked up his go time every round with BS after he sapped

[frank knoll]

lol yeah

Rogues think they’re MENSA

There’s like 5 people in the world who are good
The rest suck

[worldly oriole]

Just Name Change All My Alts In prep For Midnight

[copper fox]

lmfao are you serious

[urban skiff]

imagine winning

what's that even like

[green anchor]

ye that character is bricked

you'd have to duoQ with some high MMR person or something

not sure if that works

[frank knoll]

Weird how in blitz if god forbid you lose like 2 times it’s over

[green anchor]

I lost 6 games in a row at 1963

was around 1750 after that

or just under 1800 idr

[urban skiff]

I've been under 1k already on this and above 1800 again

now it's back down here

[green anchor]

lol

📈 📉 📈 📉 📈 📉 📈 📉

[urban skiff]

I started out at 2.2k, lost 3 games and that put my mmr in the low 1100s

[copper fox]

Why is your dmg so low

[lavish quest]

@copper fox Are you still bad?

[urban skiff]

because i was busy 1v2'ing warriors and moonkin and arcane mage

[frank knoll]

He probably was cced the whole time

[urban skiff]

and also holding the cart alone while everyone else strugglefought the other cart

[copper fox]

Yes always will be

[urban skiff]

they kept losing carts as soon as I died and never bothered to walk 5 steps to pick it back up even when it was empty and near the centre

I really wish I had recorded this

[lavish quest]

Well if you wanted me to try to get you thru a 30, lez do et

[copper fox]

Honestly. Max dmg = better results in blitz

The more dmg you do people will start to fk up their gameplay

Especially @ that rating

And they’ll die

Then you’ll have all the carts

If you go mega objective

You will lose

[urban skiff]

I can't deal more damage than I am, the targets i'm hitting just die

I should go where the healers are, that way I can pump my numbers

[urban skiff]

I'm the only one who killed anything on my team

I assume the 3 people with total of 3 kills were just lucky

by the way

[wheat jay]

brother

how

[urban skiff]

journey so far

[wheat jay]

??????????????????????????????????

[urban skiff]

Keep just having the worst luck in team mates, and I don't play enough for the numbers to average out

[wheat jay]

NASHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

thats not teammates

thats youxD

[urban skiff]

it's kind of both

I have total of like 50 games blitz played across all time or something

[wheat jay]

youre losing

AT 1200 MMR!?!?!?!?!?

BROTHER

THIS IS NOT THE WAY

[urban skiff]

brother I was the only one killing anything or holding a cart

If I had left that cart to do literally anything we would have lost faster because they had people who could figure out how to go pick up an empty cart

That is the essence of unwinnable

[wheat jay]

okay

one game

maybe 2

MAYBE EVEN 3

but thats too many xD

[urban skiff]

10 losses this week

One game a healer was AFK the entire match

A russian healer on our team. Their healers had 2 russians.

What a coincidence!

Queue popped 12 times

[wheat jay]

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[urban skiff]

It's like matchfixing at lowest mmr possible

[wheat jay]

????

bro

[urban skiff]

Or weirdest bad luck in the world that the healer decides to literally not play

In the game I'm in and not the enemy team

I'm not saying I'm amazing and it's not my fault

I'm saying i'm average and it doesn't take a lot of bad luck to completely sink any attempts to climb out of this pit

And I've had demonstrably bad luck this week

my season2 stats were 8 wins in a row

my season 3 stats I can't even foot 8 wins total

[spice hornet]

This is peak Zercher right here

[urban skiff]

peak zercher is hitting 1950 early season in 2s with the worst melee spec and then struggling to hit 1500 in blitz mid/semi late season

despite playing a zugzug class

[green anchor]

you can't sway the tide in blitz solo

unless you're something stupid like evoker or outlaw and it's a capture the flag map

then you can solo win the game

[urban skiff]

this match our healer is wearing blues

[green anchor]

https://i.imgur.com/VX1DtkV.png

I might have too much vers

[urban skiff]

yea

[wheat jay]

Why play it then

Its ass xD

[green anchor]

I don't have to deal with the bullshit classes alone

how does anyone enjoy playing against evokers in arena

or warlocks

[wheat jay]

I play survi

I shit on all specs

[urban skiff]

idk, felt like doing something that wasn't shuffle

[wheat jay]

I don't hard lose into anything hahaha

I could bever play warr in arena

[copper fox]

You literally can tho

[wheat jay]

Shush

[copper fox]

Ok fine you can’t

[wheat jay]

[green anchor]

the urge to spend honor on bloodstones only to make gold instead of getting gems

[wheat jay]

Good

I used to play warr

I get elite sets when they're good

And i chill on it sometimes

But

Dh more fun

WW is MUCH more fun

And survi im just good on it lol

I can outplay the fuck out of ppl on survi

[copper fox]

I’m having more fun as thane in blitz than I expected

[wheat jay]

Its hard to outplay warrs tho, cuz there's nothing to outplay xD

I just go behind pillar and they chase like idiots

They outplay themselves

[copper fox]

Yea usually warriors outplay themselves

[lavish quest]

Having any fun in blitz is more than expected tbh

[wheat jay]

Last time I did 2s I faced arms

At like 2200mmr

And I said to my healer, "I don't want to stereotype that warrior, but he's 100% gonna chase and line his healer"

Lo and behold, he did just that...

On mugambala

He chased my healer and me all the way around big pillar

[green anchor]

you should win with Dimensius on your team

[urban skiff]

I stole the flag when they nuked our FC by hitting thunderstorm on FC right as he died so I could walk up and snag flag

Then it was just run really really fast

Then i spent the rest of the fight just bullying the demon hunter and the warlock

haymakered warlock close to the water then thunderstormed him all the way in and let him sit there with a grasp totem to comfort him

Enh is so much fun when you don't have to struggle to win

[copper fox]

Lmao

[wheat jay]

Bro, I know y'all too well

I can read your minds before games even start

[fierce elm]

Alright

after 4 games of Ele shaman in 3s

I have decided

that Ele is so much fucking fun

[wheat jay]

Gay

[frank knoll]

I feel like WW can actually solo carry in blitz

[wheat jay]

How

Its literally warrior reskin

[frank knoll]

Yeah but you have the tools to do stuff

[copper fox]

ww plays off nodes/carts

Warr doesn’t

[frank knoll]

Can solo 1v1 people

Cc immunity to spin/fc

Ring of peace

[copper fox]

I’d say they’re interchangeable

Ww is definitely not considered a good blitz class

But as far as carrying is concerned

Ww is better

[frank knoll]

I’ve only done random BGs on my WW
I either zug zug the healer down

[urban skiff]

so close to greatness and then you fumble by playing with a shield

[fierce elm]

Its so much fun

[frank knoll]

Or I 1v1 cap an off node or something

@urban skiff u know you can use burrow with the flag too btw

Just fyi

[urban skiff]

I didn't but I also try to avoid that stuff since my vers is low

I don't want to rebuild from my arena set just to play blitz

[boreal veldt]

blitz is for the memes

you should try rp walking with dragon charge, you dont move and knock back anyone who comes near

[urban skiff]

this is a hobby video game, everything is for the memes

[boreal veldt]

sacrilege

i haven't logged in all month

[frank knoll]

Yeah a shaman burrowed w/ flag when I was about to kill him one time into rescue from an evoker and they capped
It titled me

[urban skiff]

And that's why I play enhancement

When I lose people don't feel any accomplishment and when I win they tilt from 0 to -45 degrees

[green anchor]

rare spawn

never see enh in pvp lol

[frank knoll]

I had one in shuffle yesterday

[spice hornet]

@copper fox I like how every mage even duelist ones just know how to bug out spear

hate this ability

[boreal veldt]

zerch is our resident enh enjoyer

[green anchor]

if I played Shaman I'd also play enh

[boreal veldt]

it's either that or play with a shield

[fierce elm]

yerah who would want to do that

[copper fox]

I don’t even bother spearing that class lol

[boreal veldt]

is there another way mage bugs it? thought it was only alter/block

it's not that jump blink bug is it

[copper fox]

There’s a tick delay on spear technically and it’s like impossible to avoid but mages blinks can if it’s perfectly timed

[boreal veldt]

[copper fox]

Do people play colo without rend

[fierce elm]

hell no

[spice hornet]

I wish

Colo with all the bleeds and the non-aligning cooldowns

Gives me a headache

[exotic forge]

That's like playing Arms without Overpower

[boreal veldt]

i played around with it since i ran low haste anyway but yeah it's not worth

[green anchor]

https://i.imgur.com/WI3oDeF.png

incredible
@urban skiff will enjoy this screenshot

[fierce elm]

Queues on my 0cr 0mmr Shaman is longer than my ret what the helly

[frank knoll]

I’m not abusing anything, I think it happens by accident
But I’ve broken a stun with bladestorm

[spice hornet]

yeah it happens if u time it right feelsgood

[frank knoll]

Like there’s some kinda lag delay where blade storm and the stun happen at the same time

[green wharf]

the alpha build hit bless so hard he quit for a month

[worldly oriole]

Damn

[boreal veldt]

Leaving spiteful serenity alive was all i needed to see

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lorax-leaving-lorax-the-lorax-leaving-meme-gif-7714964267197279021

[worldly oriole]

My mmr is 800 on DH

[worldly oriole]

I'm hardstuck 2050

[ancient isle]

was 2355 rating today, played some shuffles, 2 lobbies with voidweavers, lost 50 rating

played one last one, lost all 4 rounds, then dc

log back in

lost 300 rating

back to 2050

i wanna disengage myself

https://tenor.com/view/fall-kirby-drop-falling-deep-gif-17081698

idk is that warriors just suck?

doesnt matter if i play fury or arms

[sharp meteor]

You can get shadow realmed in blitz.

Not so much anywhere else.

[ancient isle]

if i sit defensive stance or not

idk how tf im supposed to climb in shuffle when all i get is full caster lobbies with disc priests and everyone just expects me to live

[copper fox]

Honestly

[ancient isle]

im just lost man

[copper fox]

Warrior sucks rn because of VW

Just hold q

[worldly oriole]

xds

[exotic forge]

Voidweaver? Is that the priest that just casts Void Blast?

[sharp meteor]

Yuh.

[exotic forge]

Boring design

[frank knoll]

Yeah
No tuning inc either 🙂

Only updates I’ve seen is for classic and remix stuff

You do a shuffle vs VW in a caster lobby
It’s like playing vs 3 casters

[copper fox]

Insane that VW remains

[spice hornet]

Void fire mm destro

Playin a diff game

[haughty jewel]

Who told U

I thought it was under wraps

[green wharf]

when i did the leechbuild they call me madman

[urban skiff]

What do they call you now?

[green wharf]

i dunno, goober i guess

but now im sleepy

[copper fox]

@fierce elm calling it for tn... 10 points behind flokk 🙂

[urban skiff]

Where do I go to deal the max damage in blitz?

So I too can hit 3k rating

[copper fox]

Enh is an off node type class imo
And in team fights hit casters

Locks > sp etc

[astral thunder]

is sigil of adaptation wroth it?

[copper fox]

No

[sharp meteor]

adapt is so niche that if u ever have to ask if u should play it just dont

[urban skiff]

I keep soloing a lot of objectives, i figure maybe at lower ratings i need to just play as a fury

I guess it depends on what is consistently deciding games: The team fights or the off node stuff

I was holding LM and farm in AB despite being horde and we still lost because those were the only two bases at all we could get 🙁

[urban skiff]

If i were a streamer I'd say it could be great fun to have like a play-by-democracy where I'll do whatever whomever shouts loudest at me says to do at any given time in rated content.

Finally you can find gratification in shouting instructions at the tv during a soccer match, except it's not soccer or a tv

only caveat is that participants have to be louder than my weakauras

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-evil-smile-grin-smirk-gif-13392009

[rustic quest]

Find some Arsenal fans - they cry the loudest

[fierce elm]

goddamn nerd lmfao

[worldly oriole]

Im gunna crash out lol

[fierce elm]

why

[copper fox]

[sand sundial]

how much of a bad idea is it to que blitz on a sunday afternoon

instead of my usual 11 PMs

[fallen estuary]

Idk i won 1 and went to minecraft

Seems pretty safe rn

[worldly oriole]

@fierce elm I need a skill capped 3v3 tier list

[copper fox]

Depends on mmr

If your mmr is like 2.9+ I’d personally wait and watch for lobbies that are 2.9+. Otherwise most times mid day you’ll get like 2.6-2.7 lobby and if you lose that’s -25 cr snd -100+ mmr

[sand sundial]

yeah mmr is dog on this char

[copper fox]

Whereas a loss at your mmr or higher is like -11 and -40 mmr

Yea then fk it

Send the q

[sand sundial]

0 CR teammate

its over

[fierce elm]

mm/vw/rando dps

[copper fox]

[fierce elm]

works with any dps

[copper fox]

Afro I gotta start pushing an alt warr

To leapfrog ladder just in case

Guys blitz is a coin flip. Skill means nothing

You just 50% your way up

You can’t swing the outcome of games

Nothing matters because pure luck

[green wharf]

83% winrate as fire mage seems like luck

[copper fox]

LOL yes

[sand sundial]

hes very lucky

[fierce elm]

If pvpers understood sarcasm this would upset them

[fierce elm]

Im gearing my ELE

[copper fox]

I was actually just thinking after I typed that all that no one will realize it’s sarcasm

And that’s disgusting how about you play warrior

[fierce elm]

lmfao

I will do everything but not play warrior

Gone from Ret to warrior to uhdk to pres to now ele

This season alone

my rogue is also waiting in the shadows

[green wharf]

remix killed my mood to q retail again

wanted to try survival this season but i log in and just

meh

[fierce elm]

Remix got me bored as hell tbh

[worldly oriole]

dunno why I'm gearing 2nd dh and dk

[sand sundial]

barely won fuck blitz

[fierce elm]

To play with mm/voidweaver

[worldly oriole]

for DK maybe

[fierce elm]

For every spec

[sand sundial]

ive been on resto shaman recently mad fun to be honest

[green anchor]

weekend players in general tend to be horrible

[copper fox]

I’m going to take a week off of blitz now so I can actually play the game

[fierce elm]

No

you aren't

[copper fox]

Well I have to tbh

[fierce elm]

you aren't rank 1 you fucking fraud

[copper fox]

3200 mmr lobbies won’t pop until next Friday

lol

I’ll be dragged into like a 2.9 and if I lose it’s gg

[fierce elm]

lmfao

That is true

[copper fox]

And it’s honestly fine because it forces me to play less

[fierce elm]

Boutta play some ELE

[copper fox]

So gay

Caster

Well

Instant caster

[fierce elm]

its as much of a caster as Ret is lmfao

[copper fox]

Yea

[fierce elm]

You cast two things

Fucking Stormkeeper and Hex

[copper fox]

That’s 2 more things than you’ll be casting in midnight

[fierce elm]

Its so satisfying

just popping off

[copper fox]

I know exactly what I’m lvling and playing all of midnight already

4x warriors

[fierce elm]

4x Frost mages

[copper fox]

1 Druid and 1 priest

[worldly oriole]

your fried lol

I know exactly what I'm lifting at the gym today

1x upper body workout

[copper fox]

lol

No truthfully I’ll only play 2 warriors

I played too many this xpac

Wasn’t worth

[fierce elm]

I mean

if you didn't piss off people

🤷‍♂️

[copper fox]

Yea exactly

I’ll be fine in midnight unless this blitz thing becomes more of an issue

But the guy mad at me for blitz ladder doesn’t really have connections

Should be good

[green wharf]

the cabal?

[copper fox]

Nah some dude mad that the new guy is disturbing the routine r1 getters

[fierce elm]

How about the guy in SS

[copper fox]

I haven’t had an issue since the beginning of the season

I did early on

But not anymore but I also paused ss qs

For blitz temporarily

[worldly oriole]

how is it routine r1 if its only been out two seasons lol

[copper fox]

Because the same people typically have gotten it both times

And were the top of the ladder this season as well

Until I qd

@fierce elm I got mega flamed for my dmg but until I was literally 2.8 cr I was playing slayer so I did like negative teamfight dmg

Then I got the gear for thane and it’s gg

The guy was in Omnivores chat like

“I looked him up his stats are so bad”

Meanwhile im playing a slayer shuffle build lol

[worldly oriole]

you solo que?@copper fox

[copper fox]

If I have a healer I duo but mostly solo now yea

I duo qd until like 2.7 tho

Straight

[fierce elm]

do more damage LOSER

[copper fox]

Yea I do. I melt teams now lol

[fierce elm]

Time to play some Ele SS

Maybe I can get a gem today so I can use my embellishment

[lavish quest]

Its a crutch

[copper fox]

Won’t even push ret… insane

[fierce elm]

Wont lie

MM/Voidweaver got me feeling like I don't want to constantl queue lmfao

[wheat jay]

f

[frank knoll]

Ele is one of those specs that’s super nasty and never gets nerfed

[wheat jay]

devourer O_O

im gonna be casting

ONE ability

maybe two

[fierce elm]

I am only playing Elemental because its the easiest caster

[wheat jay]

wack

[frank knoll]

My Shaman Davebluntz-Area 52 needs some play but I don’t feel like gearing rn

[wheat jay]

ngl

survi also looks MAD fun

with the shotgun

[worldly oriole]

Davebluntz lol

[frank knoll]

I might play Sv too

[worldly oriole]

Guys too far gone i think

[frank knoll]

Yeah he does shows on oxygen

[wheat jay]

ppl are crying that its not survi anymore somehow lmao

imo it looks better than ever

[worldly oriole]

he does drugs on oxygen lol

[wheat jay]

and im sad they re-added fking tip of the spear...

dog mechanic

[green anchor]

spec is called survival because it's about its survival among the player base

[worldly oriole]

fire game won on fire mage

[wheat jay]

lmao real

[frank knoll]

Bro
WW is losing Xuen

I dont care it doesn’t do anything

[frank knoll]

King shit

[wheat jay]

does it?

im fiarly sure it stays

and they removed clones

as god intended

shit miechanic

[frank knoll]

Yeah the clones are so dumb

Why do I need to press a second button to stop them from attacking random shi

[wheat jay]

real

and when they spawn they select random targets xD

not yours

[frank knoll]

Tried the Thane Leech build
Did like 150m healing in an AB

Just passive healing while I’m cranking peoples hogs

[worldly oriole]

I need to gear war

[worldly oriole]

blitz ques aint poppin

[lavish quest]

Its survival from the furry allegations

[wheat jay]

That's kennie

And druids

Survival is just a dude taking his dog out for a walk

[lavish quest]

Kennie doesn't survive the allegations, he thrives with them.

Man takes it on full stop

[copper fox]

Bro it’s 10am Sunday everyone’s sleeping

[worldly oriole]

i waited 40 mins for this

to be destroyed lol

[copper fox]

Lmfao I’ve never seen a loss that bad

How did you guys not cap your base

[sharp meteor]

mage stalls very reliably

well reliably if there isnt a second at the node to stop them

usually people let the 1 base sitter figure it out and mage always stops 1 person like that so

[copper fox]

Yea but he’s barely 1800

That stuff never happens there lol

[worldly oriole]

smh lol

[spark gull]

Yo 2.4kxp RSham LF freak warriors. LMK if anyone is about that life

[sharp meteor]

idk it isnt irregular

the more common is like

2-3 people just going your base

and nobody helping

same thing with deephaul

you sit cart

2-3 people hit cart

team afk mid

lose cart

[worldly oriole]

Lol he hit a fox emoji

[lavish quest]

Blitz is always these coinflips

[copper fox]

So true

Coin flips

Idk how Tony the r1 fire mage loses

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/diego-awkward-puppets-nxk-slot-machine-casino-gif-26842542

[lavish quest]

He's unemployed, so he didn't pay the cabal, like you have

[copper fox]

Mistake

[sand sundial]

Rogue diff maybe, sometimes they send 2 to atk and dps don't respond in time to push mid or send 1 help

[worldly oriole]

I'm humbled

by TWW pvp

[copper fox]

Yea I know it’s just crazy seeing a 0 at that mmr

[sand sundial]

Lmfao

[lavish quest]

One day we'll convince him to get a job

[worldly oriole]

I Need To Build Wealth. For A Rainy Day

[frank knoll]

Watch Jim Kramer

[spice hornet]

[lavish quest]

[wheat jay]

[boreal veldt]

[novel crater]

[copper fox]

[spice hornet]

[lavish quest]

[worldly oriole]

[fierce elm]

@copper fox we back at 2.7

WE BACK

[copper fox]

Whats r1 rn

[fierce elm]

2800

2812

so like 90 ratng off ish

[copper fox]

Not bad

You should push

[fierce elm]

Im trying maaan

[copper fox]

TRY HARDER

[fierce elm]

TRYING

I just wanted one more lobby before I gotta go to BED

[copper fox]

Do it

There’s 15 r1 spots on eu for ret lol

[fierce elm]

ya lmfao

idk how the alts work though

half the r1 spots there are duplicates lmfao

[sharp meteor]

Alts aren't slots.

Ret generally very popular with extra slots but not 15

[fierce elm]

Makes sense

[sharp meteor]

Just have to go count alts and figure out total number of slots.

Because the cutoff is the xth players CR

[wheat jay]

@fierce elm gratz afro

and here i was expecting you to drop like 300cr after nerfs

ngl

[fierce elm]

Hell no

Im a GAMER

[sharp meteor]

did zerch ever get top 5 2s shuffle enhs

[fierce elm]

If you remove all the enhance alts probably

[sharp meteor]

also surely 3% arms buffs next tuning pass right

[fierce elm]

This is the life we live now

no more buffs or nerfs

[wheat jay]

wouldn't that be like 1800cr?

OKAY

2100

[copper fox]

????

Fury buffs

Arms is fine

Being bad

[sharp meteor]

arms more dmg

[copper fox]

[sharp meteor]

fury needs to not die to oxygen

[copper fox]

True

Just give fury barkskin tbh

[wheat jay]

arms bigger biceps

thus better spec

[sharp meteor]

unnerf warpaint gg

[wheat jay]

i dunno, remove fury from pvp

[copper fox]

Fury bigger bench

[wheat jay]

pvp was more fun when fury wasnt played

keep it in lfr raids

[sharp meteor]

fury is cool and fun

[wheat jay]

no.

i guess its blizzard's fault, because at some point dps became so much more important than utility and proper gameplay

that fury surfaced

and even dominated in some seasons due to pure dmg

arms having sharpen, duel, banner

but fury with their

nothing?

became better xD

[spice hornet]

@copper fox 2 charges of enraged regen and slightly unnerf slaughterhouse?

[copper fox]

Perfect spec

[copper fox]

Could be worse. Could be DH. Pointless spec in the game

Split identity between other specs

Shouldn’t exist

[wheat jay]

fury worse imo

[rancid granite]

arms is definitely calisthenics pro fury is def bigger bench

[copper fox]

Fury day 1 spec

[rancid granite]

can't wait so see what midnight brings for arms cause fury was looking cool as hell

[copper fox]

Can’t be worse

[wheat jay]

ye but what does it

other than dmg

[copper fox]

Same thing every other spec does.
Provides ms
Has 2 stuns
Fear
Intervene for partners
Rally for group

What else does a class need to do

[wheat jay]

so, what arms does but worse

[copper fox]

Right, so buff it

Arms does less dmg

So

Evens out

[lavish quest]

Silly woyers fighting about which is worse, when at the end of the day, woyer bad

[novel crater]

Wait what

Is this happening??

[hearty vault]

?? what are u talking about?

[spice hornet]

Yeah. Notes will drop tomorrow

[hearty vault]

(Ignore pain)

[copper fox]

Lmfao

Warrior brain so gullible

[wheat jay]

that's 100% tuning dependent

but other than that?

its arms > fury every single day

[copper fox]

Ok non warrior main

[wheat jay]

habibi

i've been warrior since cata

and been playing it in pve every season 😄

so

fury worse than arms in every single way in pvp

its only dmg

so its 100% reliant on pvp tuning to make it broken as fuck

[hearty vault]

it was the same in wotlk, arms wotlk = best warrior moment ever, while fury for pve

[wheat jay]

i didnt rly mean wotlk

either way

fury is carried ONLY by its dmg

in every situation in which both do same dmg you want arms

dmg profile is better on arms too

more bursty

which you want in pvp mostly

[copper fox]

What does arms do that fury doesn’t?

Outside of better personal defensives

[hearty vault]

and... dont hate artji, arms was good 1v1 without a healer with u

Legion killed warrior arms

[copper fox]

1 thing? Better ms?

Insane

[wheat jay]

better personal defensives, better ms, better team utility in form of banner and duel, better irl lifts

[copper fox]

Banner and duel lol

Ok so it’s worse because it doesn’t do enough dmg. Aka the current meta

So arms is bad

Got it

[wheat jay]

well

ifwe look at 3s

that's eu

[copper fox]

Yes for 1 reason

Which we all know

[wheat jay]

and that's na

[copper fox]

And stated

[wheat jay]

dmg

yes

[copper fox]

No lmfao

Stop

Don’t be naive

It’s defensives

Personal

That’s literally it

[wheat jay]

parry + wall vs wall+heal usable in stuns

[copper fox]

Yep

[wheat jay]

i'd say they kinda even out

[copper fox]

As stated

No

[wheat jay]

depending on meta

[copper fox]

Lmao

Enrage is bad

So bad

[spice hornet]

did seifcham sell his account?

to a better warrior player

[wheat jay]

?

oh

fuck knows, probably

[wheat jay]

usable in stuns

better for dog players i guess xD

[frank knoll]

ERegen is ass

The heal thing is good in BGs but sucks otherwise

[copper fox]

You literally have to BT or it’s useless

[chilly pivot]

Ppl say DH is better then arms rn, but when we play ret war heal its so much easyer then if i go on my DH

So atleast in that comp warrior is better , didnt feel like warrior is so bad that ppl say

[sand sundial]

BT in 2025 lmao

[frank knoll]

Their used to be a talent that made BT heal like Lay on Hands but they removed it in SL

[lavish quest]

Warrior in 2025 lmao

[wheat jay]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/s/GlSTO30EJy

This is interesting

[copper fox]

This is real but exaggerated

[chilly pivot]

98% Cheaters? Is it that much

[copper fox]

Yep including you @chilly pivot

[lavish quest]

Tony is the only one not cheating

[chilly pivot]

Good we play a class with 3 buttons so we don’t need cheat

[boreal veldt]

You can sometimes clock someone running a script nowadays, odds of blizz doing anything are minimal

[copper fox]

Blizz has gotten every major script shut down lol

They don’t even last 60 days now a days

[boreal veldt]

PvP boosters on account WoW74

[chilly pivot]

I think it Will change alot in midnight with 0 weakauras and combat Addons. Maby harder for programs to cheat in pvp ?

[boreal veldt]

Maybe

[copper fox]

Considering they can already detect scripts yea it might make it harder to run them

[boreal veldt]

Of course depending on how good/bad Blizzdons are people might drop pvp even more lol

WoWdons, blizzdons?

BlizAuras

[copper fox]

Eh I don’t see that being a thing

However

They look good

Tbh

So far

But it’s early

[boreal veldt]

agressively knocking on wood

[copper fox]

Yea

[boreal veldt]

I have hope

[hot solstice]

Know what else doesnt last 60 days?

This season

Dead already

[lavish quest]

Just learn to play like a classic Andy nerds

:)

[frank knoll]

Idk I was getting 6 min queues last night at 10pm

[wheat jay]

?

What

[frank knoll]

VW vs Pre nerf RWK mistweaver

[wheat jay]

Ill take mw going melee over vw doing more dps than actual dps

Vw worse than fistweaver

[sand sundial]

total tragedy

[copper fox]

Rip

[lavish quest]

Just go a lil more

[sand sundial]

nah bro i deranked to 2.1k 💀

i climb back up

pve ass lobbies bro

[frank knoll]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who gets these kinda lobbies

[hexed ether]

Welcome to my only slams page

[urban skiff]

kind of odd there are no other monster hunter enjoyers in here

[urban skiff]

You can't convince me that the issue people have with voidweaver isn't caused mostly by "their spells sound scary"

[fierce elm]

Voidweaver is just aids

Also @urban skiff one of the big big bosses at the firm is picking me up today because my car is going to the shop

Dude volunteered

[urban skiff]

fuck yeah

He's gonna brag about his car

or how his hobbies include diving and skiiing

oh and building his own boat/motorcycle/whatever

whatever he talks about, there's going to be numbers involved where he knows the exact size or weight or horse powers of his motor

[robust hearth]

@spice hornet

[fierce elm]

He has. a cadillac

[urban skiff]

fuckin' a, called it

post deleted by now but aw maaaan, i missed out on some delicious drama

@copper fox share your scripts with the rest of us

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[wheat jay]

2.7+ everyone has it

@fierce elm share your scripts with poor zercher so he can get out of 1200mmr

[tired portal]

anyone know if the new midnight alpha talent Fearless in the class tree removes roots or only snares?

[fierce elm]

Only slows

Not hard immobilizing stuff

[fierce elm]

I got my script right here

/cast [@playername] Blessing of Sanctuary

/cast [@mouseover] Blessing of Protection

[tired portal]

that's disappointing

[fierce elm]

Yep

The fear thing goes hard into fearing classes though

pretty much immune to full fears

[tired portal]

was still hoping for a root break though

[wheat jay]

okay

honest question

not ragebait

does warrior actually need root break on top of all it has, or is it just "me warrior me want"?

[fierce elm]

probs not

it does need something rn

warrior is ass

[wheat jay]

ye but i dont think root break would do anything at all to make warr better

[tired portal]

do you like gnome warriors?

[wheat jay]

no

my point still stands

its not needed

now, why do i say taht

because this bull exiksts

on eu

and in midnight most of automatic roots are getting removed

or nerfed

lets look at solo shuffle then

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

i dunno racials should be removed

[tired portal]

murlok.io

[wheat jay]

brother i literally sent that, but more detailed

[copper fox]

You have to be playing on a Mac to get away with it

Also anyone who believes that post is a moron lol

[wheat jay]

trying to gaslight ppl so they dont dig into your scripts eh?

[lavish quest]

As long as we get a 40 yd range, we might not need it

[wheat jay]

warrs won't rly need it in midnight anyway

most specs lose some of their obnoxious cc

[copper fox]

If I was running scripts and still got out damaged by flokk as bad as I do I’d kms

[wheat jay]

I MEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAn

want a rope?

[copper fox]

Yes

But also

Got back into top 10 ss last night

Santi no where to be found

[lavish quest]

Santi busy at the beach dawg

[wheat jay]

no longer carried by mmr from past seasons?

[copper fox]

So it seems

[fickle forge]

Yes

Yes it does

[wheat jay]

shut up

noone asked oyu O_O

[fickle forge]

You did

When you asked out loud in a public forum

[green wharf]

i fucking depise this map

[fickle forge]

And the answer is yeah, the 5td range spec does need a root break to function

[green wharf]

wish they nuked

[wheat jay]

i dunno roll a gnome

[lavish quest]

That map was cool when it had carts. But then they just made it a AB reskin :(

[lavish quest]

How bout fuk u no

[wheat jay]

in all seriousness tho, they're removing most obnoxious things @fickle forge

[wheat jay]

respectable

id sooner stop playing than play gnome

[fickle forge]

And that's sick and all

But a root breaker is still necessary

At least spear is a 2nd leap now, so there's that

[wheat jay]

i disagree, dh doesn't have one, and doesnt need one

👍

[fickle forge]

Uh yeah

Cause DH can do ranged shit