Play your role in BGs, every spec abides to this
#pvp
fierce elm
You wont see Sub rogues in giant fights, you wont see Warriors guarding bases alone, you wont see tanks trying to sneak bases
You wont see any low mobility spec run with a flag
hot solstice
Sad part is as brawler u dont realy carry games
fierce elm
Sad part is as brawler u dont realy carry games
Warrior can absolutely carry games
frank knoll
I stay near my healer lol
Unless you wanna feed the other team
fierce elm
And saying otherwise is pure coping
frank knoll
Yeah ur job has a warrior is to be in the team fight and do damage
Damage carries
hot solstice
Nothing more sad then seein whole party fighting 2 enemy melees while their casters do whatever they want+ur whole partry gets cleaved by those same melees
fierce elm
Again, thane in any huge teamfight, warrior on base maps where the team splits, when focus damage is needed in orbs etc etc
Not that BGs are balanced lmao
frank knoll
Ur not making big brain plays
When I spec 4p thane I do 900k-1B damage if I don’t die too much
Usually top kills too
fierce elm
Thane goes brrr
ebon steeple
Nothing more sad then seein whole party fighting 2 enemy melees while their cast...
Then do the same thing or harass their casters
urban skiff
Sad part is as brawler u dont realy carry games
carry potential is as good as however much extra is pulled out of your synergy with the healer you're teamed with
frank knoll
Rogue/huntee/mage the big brain solo cap plays spec
hot solstice
u put it wrong
frank knoll
Warrior/DK just zug in the team fight
frank knoll
I usually play Thane in anything that isn’t a flag map
fierce elm
because thane is stupid good
frank knoll
And vs melee lobbies in shuffle
fierce elm
now thats inting
frank knoll
Unfortunately I have found that after 1800 there are not many melee lobbies
hot solstice
Honestly they just should always let 2 melee+2rdps into shuffle
exotic forge
it's poosy simulator in 1800+
frank knoll
Ya if I’m playing vs warrior/DK/WW or something I play Thane
fierce elm
Honestly they just should always let 2 melee+2rdps into shuffle
Like queues werent bad enough sometimes lmao
hot solstice
I remember I went 6-0 as slayer arms vs 3 hunters in ssn1
2300-2400 something cr
Idk
exotic forge
wasn't that before they buffed hunters tho
wheat jay
U should ask "are u a warrior?"
Yes
hot solstice
I go warrior I see mage or deva I am depressed insta
wheat jay
I am proud of my survi gameplay where i play it like a warrior
never range
only melee
hot solstice
I q udk and I dont care what lobby I face
hot solstice
ngl when I see surv damage breakdown consisting of bomb+explosive shot and like 3 mongooses - so cringe
hearty vault
The reasons (warrior thane) why the warrior should always follow a healer in PvP don't convince me at all. Especially if you're a main warrior and you limit your ability to play completely. If you use warrior as an alter for certain moments, and then go back to your paladin, DH, or moonkin, I'd accept it.
fierce elm
what
EVERY SPEC IS LIMITED IN THEIR ROLE IN BGS
CAN WE STOP ACTING LIKE WARRIOR IS SOME UNIQUE CASE
ebon steeple
we're all meta rerollers
Smh
wheat jay
The reasons (warrior thane) why the warrior should always follow a healer in PvP...
brother, please take sub rogue and go in the middle of eots fight, okay?
see how your argument holds there xD
frank knoll
Someone had a cheat sheet if Fury binds /UH binds
exotic forge
You're doing it wrong if as a warrior you're not sticking to your healer
fierce elm
Like what the fuck
exotic forge
You want to do damage and kill stuff, not feed the other team
hot solstice
EVERY SPEC IS LIMITED IN THEIR ROLE IN BGS
what exactly boomie does in blitz?
wheat jay
so, you want warrior to do EVERYTHING, sorry we're not having htat, its not fujcking 1v1 warband pvp xD
rancid granite
brother, please take sub rogue and go in the middle of eots fight, okay?
me everytime i play my rogue, it works out well ngl
fierce elm
what exactly boomie does in blitz?
Participate in huge teamfights if possible
wheat jay
stop lying
exotic forge
so, you want warrior to do EVERYTHING, sorry we're not having htat, its not fujc...
This ain't MoP anymore
fierce elm
geenrally playing offensive from what I have seen and know
wheat jay
what exactly boomie does in blitz?
rancid granite
i absolutely die but i spam cc on everyone before then
fierce elm
Trying to force bases with another player etc
wheat jay
i absolutely die but i spam cc on everyone before then
lmao
rancid granite
and i feel like it works
frank knoll
Participate in huge teamfights if possible
Yeah PvE in the back
Die to MM Hunter
hearty vault
no no, I dont want a everything op rol. But have a opportunity cause of skill, not class
fierce elm
Knowing how your class plays is skill
green wharf
Skill is knowledge
rancid granite
Knowledge is *skill*
ok relax GI JOE over here
fierce elm
Yeah PvE in the back
Die to MM Hunter
sounds like SS lmfao
wheat jay
playing warrior like its not warrior is regardation
rancid granite
fierce elm
anyone can hit their dumb ass buttons and rotation
hearty vault
A random battle (blitz)
urban skiff
Someone had a cheat sheet if Fury binds /UH binds
wdym?
fierce elm
I am pretty sure Shady changed all his UHDK icons to fury ones lmfao
exotic forge
anyone can hit their dumb ass buttons and rotation
boomkin in a nutshell
wheat jay
ye he did xD
fierce elm
nvm it was his demon hunter
wheat jay
wait
urban skiff
CAN WE STOP ACTING LIKE WARRIOR IS SOME UNIQUE CASE
https://youtu.be/fUspLVStPbk?list=RDfUspLVStPbk
This song, but replace the topic with warrior instead
frank knoll
wdym?
I remember someone was trying to reroll to UH and they had a cheat sheet for all the UH binds vs fury
Cause someone was complaining that UH had too many buttons
fierce elm
Rogue doesn't have many buttons either
wheat jay
and compare binds to warr or other classes lmao
fierce elm
Ferla has a good amount
frank knoll
SS = raging blow
CS= rampage
Etc
wheat jay
macros tho
hearty vault
please, dont tell me about play ret T_T
fierce elm
Whats wrong with ret : (
urban skiff
I remember someone was trying to reroll to UH and they had a cheat sheet for all...
I don't think there's a carryover for unholy from fury. UH plays more like a paladin or rogue with rapid builder/spender
wheat jay
Whats wrong with ret : (
nothing afro, youre a very special boy playing very special class
❤️
fierce elm
: (
exotic forge
fuck ret paladin
urban skiff
fierce elm
: (((
frank knoll
My bars are full as fury but I have a Focus Disarm/Fear/ Stormbolt etc
urban skiff
Finally recovered for a short moment
wheat jay
fuck ret paladin
@fierce elm i think he wants to sex you
fierce elm
and I appreciate that
exotic forge
<@144859308557860864> i think he wants to sex you
frank knoll
I have a party 1/2/3 intervene also
fierce elm
what the helly
exotic forge
ayo
green wharf
cuz i know afro is kinda chonky
and bald
exotic forge
warrior is bottom
hearty vault
what do u think about wotlk, WoD, BFA and Pandarian warrior?
exotic forge
so yes
green wharf
thats what i said
urban skiff
brothers what
fierce elm
what do u think about wotlk, WoD, BFA and Pandarian warrior?
thats like 40 years ago
and Warrior hasn't changed in their role lmfao
wheat jay
what do u think about wotlk, WoD, BFA and Pandarian warrior?
ignore
its old
its in the past
hearty vault
...
green wharf
brothers what
This is funny cause those are characters from well know brazilian tv shows
thats actually real
hearty vault
the only difference is you lost a bit of healing lmao
that was important defensive, things that warrior dont have now
wheat jay
that was important defensive, things that warrior dont have now
you do have healing, just not rng or constant one
victory rush
you have defensive stance
you have dbts
you have, for now, ignore pain
hearty vault
we saw warrior arms next exp
scarlet barn
You guys still on anout this? Sheesh
fierce elm
lmfao
He refuses to understand that specs have roles
and is willing to ignore everyone on the entire ladder telling him the same thing
Because it doesn't fit his dilemma
hearty vault
no Afro, I never say that, I said: better in role but worst in others?
fierce elm
What the fuck does that even MEAN
wheat jay
yes
fierce elm
Like whats the point here lmfao
urban skiff
This is funny cause those are characters from well know brazilian tv shows
It's the healer role hunter, that surprises me. Is that a reference?
fierce elm
Can we skip all this again and get to what the point is that you are bringing up
frank knoll
you have, for now, ignore pain
IP does fuck all too
wheat jay
IP does fuck all too
it does
fierce elm
IP does fuck all
hearty vault
no no no, I never say, be the best, but not be useless in other
wheat jay
but its funny how ppl cry about losing it
frank knoll
Nobody has been saved by IP
wheat jay
OHH NO MY DEFENSIVE THAT DOES 3% OF MY HP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
frank knoll
Maybe in PvE
fierce elm
Why is sub rogue useless in team fights : (
wheat jay
Maybe in PvE
no lmao
green wharf
It's the healer role hunter, that surprises me. Is that a reference?
no, prob something wrong that they come in the photoshop
if you pay attention the rogue is also a healer
frank knoll
You used to press it to get Overpower procs but they nerfed that cause of PvErs
wheat jay
Optimizing IP in order to get OP procs was crazy
in df s1?
fierce elm
Before that too
it was hyper nerd stuff
like in TWW s1 when people storm bolted during bladestorm because it was a really minor tiny dps increase on single target
because Revvez did it
urban skiff
if you pay attention the rogue is also a healer
figured it might be a reference to how maybe doctor felix is a veterinarian and a sniper or something
😄
frank knoll
Only classic Andy’s have this mindset
“Gotta stormbolt during bladestorm for a .000001% DPS increase”
exotic forge
IP doesn't do SHIT
green wharf
figured it might be a reference to how maybe doctor felix is a veterinarian and ...
its this guy
fierce elm
its glorious
urban skiff
gonna try something new today and just stick to the warrior and do whatever he does
both healers have cyrillic characters, they play together
hearty vault
YOU CAN'T BE BEST IN EVERY ROLE
sorry, I was busy. Please I never said "be the best in every role". Some classes are good diferent rols, but warrior seems to be only good in one
fierce elm
Gave you five roles warrior exceeds at
"good in one"
But what is even the point of this discussion
like whats the end game here
hearty vault
tell me where out of TF
frank knoll
gonna try something new today and just stick to the warrior and do whatever he d...
Go EFC and kill with ascendance when he has high stacks
fierce elm
It seems we are moving the goalpost in order to cater to a certain agenda here
urban skiff
Go EFC and kill with ascendance when he has high stacks
don't work like that buddy
frank knoll
Huh what
urban skiff
as soon as you hit ascendance you sit in cc until it's over
fierce elm
Which means that as a discussion this is dead in the water because your argument is moving the goalpost away by saying 'Yeah what about 20% of the BGs'
frank knoll
Yeah they’re good players and they prob aren’t
fierce elm
as soon as you hit ascendance you sit in cc until it's over
save trinket smh
urban skiff
they got first cap now
hearty vault
trinket for roots?
frank knoll
Cause ur typin on discord and not storm striking!
fierce elm
smh Zercher
hearty vault
Afro, are u main paladin? tell me why paladin is good on several rols, think that warrior cant
fierce elm
Paladin sucks at teamfighting and cleave situations straight up
Paladin is a bad flag carrier and EFC killer
Paladin is a bad orb carrier
hearty vault
cleave situations with range attack? oO?
urban skiff
it's a struggling team
frank knoll
Paladin is a team fighter wtf
fierce elm
Paladin has no MS effect, lackluster mobility to run from point A to B
exotic forge
Paladin doesn't have an MS effect
hearty vault
warrior fury or arms flagger? oO?
fierce elm
Paladin sucks at teamfighting compared to other specs
urban skiff
2nd cap
fierce elm
and if he can argue that Warrior sucks because they dont excel in 1v1 situations or without a healer, then I can make that argument
frank knoll
Yet still most OP spec in all PvP content
fierce elm
That is also not true lmfao
And if you still believe that you are living under a rock
hearty vault
...
fierce elm
Paladin is really good at Base defending however
Like one of the best
Paladin also exceeds in doing stuff without a healer with another DPS
such as running off-carts on mines, or even capturing bases together with one more DPS
exotic forge
Paladin is literally a support class
fierce elm
So yes, it has clear stuff that it isn't as good at
hearty vault
that kills 1v1 everything XD (dont worry I dont care 1v1)
fierce elm
It doesnt kill everything 1v1
urban skiff
holy shit i never realized how short duration frost shock is
exotic forge
It really doesn't tho
fierce elm
It still can't defend versus Rogues at all but rather just delay it
hearty vault
and, I repeat, I dont care about 1v1, I care about play without a healer being warrior
fierce elm
Feral is the same
scarlet barn
because Revvez did it
Tbh we all saw it in guides and it is free gcd 
fierce elm
There, I gave you a ton of upsides and downsides with Ret in Blitz
scarlet barn
So revezz wasnt the only factor
exotic forge
making sure the flag carrier crosses the river
fierce elm
Ret is also the spec with the most support utility in the entire game outside of healers so it also aims to use those
hearty vault
and boomkin too in BG
fierce elm
Boomkin is bad at defending
hearty vault
I saw always boomkins in RBG
fierce elm
Alone that is
Boomkin excels in taking bases together with one more person or huge teamfights
urban skiff
sorted by healing, i wonder why we struggled
hearty vault
several rols without a healer
fierce elm
WHAT IS THIS OBSESSION
WITH NOT FILLING YOUR ROLE
AS A CHARACTER
Why not just play something that fits what you want to play lmfao
hearty vault
we are talking about that :S
fierce elm
No
urban skiff
WITH NOT FILLING YOUR ROLE
WHY ARE WE YELLING
hearty vault
haha XD
urban skiff
Boomkins aren't gonna run into cleave fights on Market for exaple
nobody should go to market
it's a dead party
fierce elm
Like again, what is the end game of this discussion
outside of just dooming that warrior isn't played the way you want it to be played
because it has a glaring flaw that is okay to have because everyone cathers to making that flaw disappear
You are always gonna have a healer with you in Blitz
exotic forge
Aatos wtf is that reaction lmao
fierce elm
Its his signature react
fierce elm
lmfao
rancid granite
it means i got no time to play or banter so ill leave a fun emoji
wheat jay
warrior clearly not for him
hearty vault
to paladin ret
wheat jay
to anything that's not a warrior
okay
okay
okay
lets take the stupid way around it
what roles do you want to fit
exotic forge
Just reroll to DH
fierce elm
Outlaw/Sub/Assa looks to be his thing tbh
Can get rewarded with skill
Assa/Outlaw can do most things in a blitz
fierce elm
Actually, Assa/Outlaw can do all the things in blitz
rancid granite
Outlaw/Sub/Assa looks to be his thing tbh
i don't even know the argument but i can already tell his goal is to do things solo so yeah; be rogue
wheat jay
well, there we go
rancid granite
it's just the cliche warrior getting rekt cause no healer wanted him... thus, rogue
fierce elm
Rogue is insanely rewaridng at getting really good at it too
exotic forge
I will hate. Unless it's Outlaw rogue, I will not hate 
wheat jay
Rogue is insanely rewaridng at getting really good at it too
will he be really good at it tho?
rancid granite
no
hearty vault
I enjoy tbc, wotlk, pandarian, wod and bfa warrior. I miss them and and Blizzard is adding new things to all classes and locking the warrior into one role, making him worse and worse in the others roles. its that I think :S
wheat jay
I enjoy tbc, wotlk, pandarian, wod and bfa warrior. I miss them and and Blizzard...
ok thats just yapping
rancid granite
see? dude is legit saying he wants to 1v1 - thus, be a rogue
fierce elm
LIMITED TO HAVING A HEALER THAT IS GOING TO BABYSIT YOU
IT HASNT CHANGED FROM ANYWHERE
wheat jay
so can you please just stop yapping and answer what you want to DO in blitz?
wheat jay
what is it that you want to perform
rancid granite
"i have no friends to heal me" tldr
wheat jay
lmao
fierce elm
Name one expansion where warrior hasn't needed a pocket healer in order to be really good
Also just send rogue at this point
hearty vault
I told u, tbc, wotlk, pandarian, wod and BFA :S
rancid granite
nostalgia hits hard
exotic forge
No wtf
exotic forge
TBC and Wrath you NEEDED a pocket healer
fierce elm
but Bfa/wod/pandaria youi had a pocket healer if you were in any way serious about your gameplay
wheat jay
bfa you were at healer's mercy in every pvp content lmao
so, you're just talking out of your ass?
yapping for the sake of yapping?
fierce elm
nostalgia hits hard
it does
which is also why MoP classic died so fast
despite everyone saying it would kill retail wow lmfao
wheat jay
ppl were riding nostalgia and its pvp is dogshit lmao
hearty vault
I played this expansions and I think that you are wrong about it's the same
fierce elm
w h a t
wheat jay
I played this expansions and I think that you are wrong about it's the same
so did we
fierce elm
ppl were riding nostalgia and its pvp is dogshit lmao
its not dogshit
its solved and different
exotic forge
Cata Warrior was better but we ain't ready for that conversation yet
rancid granite
catshit
wheat jay
brother, unicycle is also different, yet compared to actual bike its dogshit
exotic forge
People know every crook and cranny of it
wheat jay
brother you LOSE aura on unicycle
rancid granite
i had absolutely zero context of the chat and i still provided the answer:
rogue
fierce elm
aura'd
rancid granite
shits always the same
wheat jay
YOU LOSE AURA ON THIS
lethal orchid
YOU GAIN AURA BRO
wheat jay
https://tenor.com/view/unicycle-flip-jump-leap-spring-gif-14710641
HOW YOU GONNA HAVE AURA WHEN YOU GOT NO BALLS AFTER THAT JUMP!?
hearty vault
ok, u tell me that it was 10 years ago and u must accept warrior like it's now. I think cries always help, look paladins
exotic forge
wheat jay
ok, u tell me that it was 10 years ago and u must accept warrior like it's now. ...
okay, paladins cried cuz they were unplayable or something, fuck knows
rancid granite
-cries always help
fierce elm
Paladin is such a fucking mess still lmfao
rancid granite
so god damn manly
wheat jay
we don't cry cuz we are decent, playable, and have clear roles in pvp content
frank knoll
ppl were riding nostalgia and its pvp is dogshit lmao
Magnusz just needs to hang it up and come home to retail
fierce elm
We are getting another goddamn rework
fierce elm
Like its a fucking amazing mess
because its really good
but its such a fucking mess lmfao
hearty vault
I said paladins cause Afro is main paladin, no? :S
frank knoll
I think Ret is a noob stomper
wheat jay
yes
fierce elm
I main everything brother
frank knoll
Just like Ww
wheat jay
paladin is an animal
rancid granite
is ret pally still S+ broken like end of s2?
fierce elm
I am what you call a multiclasser
frank knoll
Kills 1600 players easy
wheat jay
no
fierce elm
is ret pally still S+ broken like end of s2?
naa
Its really good still
but MM has probably overtaken Ret in SS now too
frank knoll
Struggles vs people who are decent
fierce elm
and it had already overtaken in blitz and 3s lmfao
fickle forge
Hi?
fierce elm
Hello Pal
wheat jay
Hello Karanze the fury warrior enjoyer
wheat jay
I am what you call a connoisseur
of dick
exotic forge
Afro has no main
wheat jay
O_O
fierce elm
Oh no I definitely have a main
it's just that my autistic self does not allow me to fully play just one spec
fickle forge
Hello Karanze the fury warrior enjoyer
Confusing me with @elfin surge, I'll get him for you
fierce elm
My Ele shaman is level 79
exotic forge
it's just that my autistic self does not allow me to fully play just one spec
And when everyone's a main... no one is
wheat jay
in blitz specifically
fierce elm
I am gonna hit duelist on my Pres next season
wheat jay
and what is it's relation to healers, or lack of one
fierce elm
I promise
fickle forge
Stop asking me questions when I am dead tired and had beer
fierce elm
Legend Pres Afro incoming next season
fickle forge
@frail panther Do damage and fight in the middle all game
wheat jay
<@159442365394714624> Do damage and fight in the middle all game
WRONG MOTHERFUCKER
frank knoll
What is the average worldwide average rating of shuffle players
fickle forge
WRONG MOTHERFUCKER
Tag the right one then, I gave my answer
fierce elm
or the average worldwide of the average
frank knoll
Just average
wheat jay
dumbass
fierce elm
who knows
lethal orchid
worldwide average
frank knoll
0.1% is like 2900
fierce elm
If looking at the entire playerbase proibably 5 rating
frank knoll
someone do the math
fierce elm
How do you get it to be 2900
When there are 2 people in EU in SS that are 2900 lmfao
and 2 people in NA that are 2900
frank knoll
You guys are supposed to have good education
Idk
fierce elm
lmfao
frank knoll
I need a calculator to add still
fierce elm
Well
if judging by what Seramate is tracking
top 1468 is the top 0.01%
but I wouldn't trust that
wheat jay
wouldn't that be entire playerbase?
fierce elm
Seramate is tracking 146809 characters
wheat jay
ye
hearty vault
its role is to be 1v1 unkillable playmaker clearly
no no, please Artji, why do you insist I want them to be the best in 1v1 or in multiple roles? I'm just saying that making a class the most useless in other roles because u depends of a healer is a mistake :S
wheat jay
yep
no point in arguing, go roll something else or cry in the corner, not here 👍
you have clear roles
that's all
hearty vault
its warrior pvp discord, dont be so agressive. We are talking about warrior in pvp
wheat jay
Artji is also naturally aggressive
no im not?
fierce elm
You are
wheat jay
smh
fierce elm
when it comes to discussing things you absolutely are lmfao
wheat jay
anyway, pj why do you even play warrior if you fundamentally dislike the class and how it plays in pvp?
frank knoll
I wish seramate had an export function
urban skiff
When is it my turn to play with the other team?
frank knoll
So I could put it into PowerBI
urban skiff
fierce elm
When is it my turn to play with the other team?
wheres your DAMAGE
frank knoll
Really flesh out the data
fierce elm
I wish seramate had an export function
I mean I reckon you can probs ask them
urban skiff
wheres your DAMAGE
how do you want me to deal damage to anything
urban skiff
boomie hunter mage spriest ret 2 discs
fierce elm
Yes
wheat jay
i reckon you could do more just spamming chain lightning from the back lmao
urban skiff
let me just go hit nothing because they're just deleting people when they show up
fierce elm
But when you do more healing than damage as enhance in blitz it's not a team comp thing brother
d o d a m
urban skiff
that was 3 healing surges brother
fierce elm
D O D A M
urban skiff
TO WHAT
fierce elm
THE ENEMY
wheat jay
zerchr
urban skiff
TEAM DECIDED TO CONGEGRATE AT STABLES AND NEVER MOVE
wheat jay
their top dps was dk
urban skiff
DO YOU WANT ME TO GO SOLO THE HEALER AT LM WITH 2 CASTERS OR WHAT
fierce elm
yolo
wheat jay
stays in
all the time
so does enh
but he did x5 your dmg
its pure skill issue man
deserved loss
urban skiff
I just want to hit shit with stormstrike, why are people assuming i'm trying to not do that
If there was something to hit I would hit it
hearty vault
anyway, pj why do you even play warrior if you fundamentally dislike the class a...
Sorry! busy. And yes, because your arguments are "accept the warrior of today as he is", ignore how he was and how he could become. While other classes are getting new mechanic skills. I do not accept this argument, if you do not want to talk to me, you can ignore it or let it go.
urban skiff
If you look at earlier score screens you'll notice I was the only one dealing damage, I'm not afraid of going in and hitting shit
fierce elm
Also what new Mechanic skills are specs getting
hearty vault
anyway, pj why do you even play warrior if you fundamentally dislike the class a...
you are complety right, it's my fault cause, after a lot of years, I dont like change my character
fierce elm
Ret has been the same since S2 DF but Ret before that needed a complete rework
and is still a mess
Rogue has remained the same
wheat jay
survi same since legion rework
fierce elm
Outlaw keeps being reworked all the time because its a mess of a spec
wheat jay
rogue 1:1 same shit
fierce elm
Hunters hasn't changed that much or gotten new mechanics
wheat jay
monk same shit, just dmg changed from burst to consistent kinda
dk mostly the same
if not entirely the same
fierce elm
DK is not mostly the same though
wheat jay
mage same shit
fierce elm
UHDK keeps being reworked constantly and looked at lmfao
wheat jay
warlock especially destro same shit
wheat jay
ye but fdk still has the same role, similar gameplay to it
hearty vault
All classes got more defensives since Legion
fierce elm
Who
wheat jay
wheat jay
All classes got more defensives since Legion
other than hunter, who?
fierce elm
Ret hasn't gotten any more defensives except for Spellwarding
I am pretty sure lmao
Lay/Bubble/BoP has always been there
wheat jay
hunter got a wall in DF cuz in shadowlands it had the issue of just dying in raids, to the point where hunter's defensive in RWF was literally "battle ress"
fierce elm
idk I never paid attention to DK
They did technically due to how horsemen work
with AMS
wheat jay
ams amz ibf they had since their release i believe
fierce elm
so if you count the hero talent, yes
wheat jay
They did technically due to how horsemen work
thats same shit but from passives now i guess
wheat jay
remember when warrior got anti-cc banner and duel, and it became the best peeler in the entire game
utility monster
fierce elm
They also gained a shitty heal from Slayer tree
copper fox
I can’t get a 6-0 on arms
fierce elm
Washed
copper fox
I’m actually trash
copper fox
Yes lmao
fierce elm
kek
copper fox
I just want 1 tho
Last lobby I 5-1 with an aff lock against unhdk and dh… couldn’t win the second
Not enough dmg
Fury would easily 6-0 it
I need more haste too for arms
hearty vault
Ret hasn't gotten any more defensives except for Spellwarding
+1 defensive and ret dont need more, enough, hunters got more defensives, druid got more and lose and got (not as boomkin), dk got passives and got and lose others, shamans get a good one
wheat jay
I need more haste too for arms
you need more testosterone
wheat jay
+1 defensive and ret dont need more, enough, hunters got more defensives, druid...
im fairly sure survival instincts and barkskin have been there since forever
and bear
fierce elm
+1 defensive and ret dont need more, enough, hunters got more defensives, druid...
Warrior got two passives as colo and one as slayer
boom
fierce elm
im fairly sure survival instincts and barkskin have been there since forever
they have
Ret got entirely reworked and BoP isnt a thing pretty much anymore
Its not like we gained ANOTHER defensive we can use
its either or
fierce elm
Oh no you dont get into this
copper fox
Why
fierce elm
PJs argument is that warrior seems to be the only class that is role-locked in bs
bgs
by requiring a healer
wheat jay
Enrage is ass
you mean 30% wall usable in cc?
copper fox
oh lmao
hearty vault
yes
fierce elm
and the argument is ”Every other class can do everything”
which isnt true
But because they dont rely on healers it is
Its a mess
hearty vault
not exactly, not everything
copper fox
If you die to a DK as a warrior you’re a rat
hearty vault
If you die to a DK as a warrior you’re a rat
poor dks vs warriors, yes
fierce elm
and then when told Warrior with a healer is the best cleave and 2v2 composition in Blitz that was brushed away
because once more
Warriors needs healers
wheat jay
fierce elm
and then he said Warrior didn't need a healer in any expansion BfA and Before pretty much
its a mess go back to queueing solo shuffle instead
hot solstice
do we get any tuning tonight? saw some yap in jazzggz chat today
copper fox
Massive warrior buffs
fierce elm
I mean hopefully lmfao
Gut voidweaver and MM
Buff warrior/WW
Buff Rsham because Rsham is cool and my shaman is level 79
Buff Elemental too because my Shaman is level 79
green wharf
https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-gif-27570735
copper fox
VW makes arms shuffle ass too
fierce elm
VW and MM are just terrorizing 3s and SS lmfao
hearty vault
and then when told Warrior with a healer is the best cleave and 2v2 composition ...
Exaclty, yes, it's why I dont like the current warrior, because in situations where I play with some friends, Blitz or random BGs, as warrior must always look where is the healer and not study the BG situation to try to change something (situations of 3 dps against 2 dps or 3). I think 1 spec should have diferent role, for example, arms to TF and fury to play other rols. Like a other classes with healer specs
fierce elm
ok my man
hot solstice
man, u either get w or l team
fierce elm
VW makes arms shuffle ass too
I haven't played SS since Tuesday I am pretty sure
its over for me
hot solstice
its not about healers or stuff
fierce elm
I need to get 100 rating for r1 range
hearty vault
its not about healers or stuff
it was a example, talking about classes and specs with their roles
wheat jay
so what should rogue do in a 3v3 situation in blitz then?
hearty vault
asking to me? roles in 3v3? :S
wheat jay
Exaclty, yes, it's why I dont like the current warrior, because in situations wh...
in the situation you presented here
hot solstice
cheap cheap kidney
spice hornet
Enrage is ass
yeah and if you make a single mistake using it, games over
hot solstice
wdym
hot solstice
what if u do 3v3 while defending?
wheat jay
dip to get diff base?
hearty vault
in the situation you presented here
I told u, 3v3 is a diferent story, it's cause I told u about not tanks in 3v3. it was with u, not artji?
hearty vault
for rogues in blitz, for example, "!if u play outlaw u are not the worst spec in tf", blizzard could do that
wheat jay
lets say you play sub
hearty vault
it's the thing, I never say that 1 spec should be good on everything, I said "class" "warrior" "only 1 role" :S
scarlet barn
¯_(ツ)_/¯
fierce elm
I told you to keep qing
been sick
wheat jay
it's the thing, I never say that 1 spec should be good on everything, I said "cl...
you have the most important role
demolishing enemies
killing everything when teamfighting
see in rbgs back when pvp wasn't pve
warrior also had the role of target caller
hearty vault
see in rbgs back when pvp wasn't pve
u told me, dont look back moments -_
frank knoll
Buff warrior/WW
WW desperately needs something
fierce elm
WW definitely needs something lmao
frank knoll
VW disc almost out damaged the enhance in the last shuffle I did
hearty vault
rbgs still exist
I was talking about pvp wasnt pve
lavish quest
I've got it.
The deletion of mages
frank knoll
Boomy and MM wouldn’t let him play the game tbh
wheat jay
I was talking about pvp wasnt pve
same, blitz is more pve than pvp xD
scarlet barn
🥁
hearty vault
@wheat jay and @fierce elm, I didnt told u, but thanks for listen to me. I know it could be my fault cause I dont accept what other want about warrior but...
fierce elm
It aint no problem buddybear, this made a boring hour somewhat fun
wheat jay
^
hearty vault
But I won't give up yet, I'll keep "crying". We got a good spear to next xpain cause of that
worldly oriole
copper fox
Gotta start taking adderall in midnight to get r1 3s
lavish quest
Knew it
copper fox
If this was me I’d be r1 3s every season since I started warrior because you know this dude pops adderall 3x a day
(Goals)
fierce elm
Addys, weed and cheetodustcrust fingers and keyboard
frank knoll
Yup
fierce elm
with an unhealthy obsession with cheap off-brand energy drinks
frank knoll
Insane ego for no reason
Devils advocate in every discussion
fierce elm
This really is Meth
frank knoll
Btw I did my dna stuff and found out I have a bunch of Hungarian
What is Hungary known for in Europe
exotic forge
Bad history with Hungarians
worldly oriole
scarlet barn
But I won't give up yet, I'll keep "crying". We got a good spear to next xpain c...
And that might go away again so dont celebrate too soon
limber relic
can i quit now?
limber relic
Now get Cutting Edge
does curve count?
scarlet barn
No, even deaf guild has that one
copper fox
can i quit now?
@spice hornet inflation hit, time to q
green anchor
can i quit now?
death to gnomes
limber relic
death to gnomes
lavish quest
If this was me I’d be r1 3s every season since I started warrior because you kno...
Then you'd finally be yellow
dapper flower
is ther ea pvp talent import code
spice hornet
<@160879799672373248> inflation hit, time to q
holy shit
spice hornet
Yep
frank knoll
Does Warroid still play?
urban skiff
how are you as bad as me
copper fox
true
frank knoll
You guys think Ret is better than Fury
urban skiff
only took all night to get a win
urban skiff
green wharf
@sharp meteor so with impaler does prot get to perma slow people with heroic throw?
sharp meteor
<@129440991294783488> so with impaler does prot get to perma slow people with he...
With what
lavish quest
Also everyone has perma freedom
green wharf
Also everyone has perma freedom
what do you mean
spice hornet
Regarded
Yeah man, all tied to abilities with like 1min+ cooldowns
Mean stuff like rogue and dev just get to auto snare you
These developers man lol
fierce elm
nevermind i just re-read the talent, it excludes heroic throw now
it never said heroic throw
green wharf
it never said heroic throw
my reading now excludes it 
fierce elm
lmfao
green wharf
i only though this shit was usable because i though heroic throw would be affected as well
spice hornet
i only though this shit was usable because i though heroic throw would be affec...
I genuinely can’t believe they didn’t bother including heroic throw
I think they forgot it’s an ability
Probably the only ability it would make sense on and actually benefit
fierce elm
This is why we read talents
fierce elm
Why does cdew have 1100 people watching him gambling lmfao
sharp meteor
Why does cdew have 1100 people watching him gambling lmfao
But why
No risk but also no fun
exotic forge
Technically, you could apply a ranged hamstring every 22 sec if you spec into Demolition and use Wrecking Throw
You have two ranged snares with a 5 second difference in cooldown, so it's not as bad as some think it would be
exotic forge
What other pvp talent will you pick now that battlefield commander is baseline?
fierce elm
Storm/Disarm/Safeguard/master and commander
Demo just sucks
Nevermind the two talent point investment
midnight cloud
Hi guys, any advice for a newish warrior with 1994 rating trying to hit 2100? It is getting close and i am worried
fierce elm
Continue improving and realize that the gap between 2k and 2.1k is not that big
If there even is a gap
midnight cloud
okay got it, thank u Afro
fierce elm
Basically, deal more damage, trade defensively better but also know that the difference between 2k and 2.1k is pretty much not a thing
its pretty much the same players
midnight cloud
roger that, i have never been in this bracket before
really appreciate the advice
midnight cloud
I am doing SS and Blitz with around 110 (Home) and 240 (World), is there something i can do there to perhaps churn more dps?
pardon the vague question, was just hoping to get some advice for irregular ping and how others deal with it
will just improve and keep trying
novel crater
Everyone the man on the NA Warrior Throne @haughty jewel is streaming go follow the boy!
rustic quest
Hi guys, any advice for a newish warrior with 1994 rating trying to hit 2100? It...
One thing that helped me taking that step was paying more attention to the positioning of my healer and especially opponents pushing in to CC. Caught lots of people off guard and killed them in 3-4 globals, granted that I had demolish ready.
green wharf
Demo just sucks
demolition usually bugs with me, so isnt even worthy
midnight cloud
One thing that helped me taking that step was paying more attention to the posit...
thank you!
copper fox
@fierce elm took # 2 last night in blitz. Less than 100 from # 1 but I went 8-8 lol had a lot of unlucky losses
lavish quest
<@144859308557860864> took # 2 last night in blitz. Less than 100 from # 1 but I...
Why didn't you just win instead?
copper fox
Blitz is funny. 4 of those 8 losses were just complete blow outs… aka some guy named maxpally just playing however he wants and making us basically 7v8 then the other 4 losses were neck and neck all game
There’s no in between
fierce elm
<@144859308557860864> took # 2 last night in blitz. Less than 100 from # 1 but I...
Not even top 1
fierce elm
Blitz is funny. 4 of those 8 losses were just complete blow outs… aka some guy n...
Yeah sounds about right
worldly oriole
lol the games I lost were cringe. I'm the only one that went to team fight in the new map with carts
and I didn't get any heals with flag in twin peaks
and now my duo is afk til next week
should I brick my dh if he's 0-4 @copper fox
green wharf
fierce elm
Yep
green anchor
good
copper fox
should I brick my dh if he's 0-4 <@1134571107257684080>
Yep
0-4 first 4 blitz games is diabolical
worldly oriole
is fire mage good @copper fox
fierce elm
yes
worldly oriole
hell ya finna pie some nubs in the blitz game
green anchor
worst I've had happen were 6 blitz games lost in a row
copper fox
Yea all mage specs are good in blitz
Arcane actually isn’t nvm
Venruki shit on my team at 3am last night as frost
worldly oriole
nice Im deff gonna que some
with a duo is best right
I set a focus off BGE for team fight I never did that before when I qued in legion lol
iirc
copper fox
A duo at least guarantees you know you have 2/6 conscious humans on your team so yes
fierce elm
A duo at least guarantees you know you have 2/6 conscious humans on your team so...
not with Tony
copper fox
Lmfao
fierce elm
thank fuck
sudden furnace
Fully
Not confirmed lol, let's not spread false info. It is on pause as of now due to oUF.
Is it dead currently w/ the new API changes? Yeah, dead as in a pause if anything.
Does it mean they're not going to change things? No, we have 0 idea of what they will do. It's too early to know.
copper fox
@wheat jay just got put down so hard
lavish quest
Nope, addons removed. It's final. GGS
wheat jay
Not confirmed lol, let's not spread false info. It is on pause as of now due to ...
yes, on hold, if nothing changes, and its unlikely it will to the point where elvui and other addons will be functional
frank knoll
I think they didn’t add hamstring to heroic throw cause PvE tanks use it to tag mobs
Maybe mobs being slowed by 50% would be bad? Idk
fierce elm
it would be
lavish quest
Couldn't tanks just not take the talent?
frank knoll
Depends on the pathing
green wharf
How do people play arms
with 30% haste
green wharf
but faster
fickle forge
80% haste fury players unable to understand the dopamine of a 15M Demolish+MS go
copper fox
Need higher apm than arms
wheat jay
going by pve arms is 60apm fury is 69apm
or sth like that
from simcraft tho
so not super accurate
worldly oriole
I need gear on my alts more than ev
copper fox
going by pve arms is 60apm fury is 69apm
Yea I feel like that’s inaccurate for PvP but idk
urban skiff
Yea I feel like that’s inaccurate for PvP but idk
More like 6-7 Actions Per Hour with all that cc
SIX SEEEEEVEN
midnight cloud
Hi guys, how many points would i gain if i can win 4 rds in a solo shuffle?
I manage to hit 2051, and kinda worried now
Actually afraid to lose points etc, hence i thought of asking here
wheat jay
rustic quest
Actually afraid to lose points etc, hence i thought of asking here
Don’t worry about losing points mate, it’s part of the game. I bounced quite a bit between 2050 and 1950 before I hit 2100. Just make sure you reflect and learn from losses - don’t instaqueue tilted 😅
midnight cloud
Thank u so much guys
Yea I am worried about losing points since it’s my first time getting into the 2000 region
Will keep going with the warrior spirit!!
wheat jay
Yea I am worried about losing points since it’s my first time getting into the 2...
dont worry about that
limber relic
Yea I am worried about losing points since it’s my first time getting into the 2...
my advice is to forgett your ratings and play to learn. if you "deserve" to be at that ratings ull get back if you would drop
wheat jay
^
midnight cloud
Got it, thank you so much guys 🙏🏻
limber relic
80% haste fury players unable to understand the dopamine of a 15M Demolish+MS go
fk demolish
midnight cloud
just grind
Thank u SeifCham!
limber relic
that's what, 6mil?
demolish also has a 45s cd and can be dodged easily
and requrires 10 stacks
wheat jay
and follows up with a fully buffed mortal
like this one
that's 6mil no crits demolish, aaaaaaaaaand 7.2mil ms at the same time last demolish hit lands
limber relic
demolish did the same dgm as 1 rampage :x
wheat jay
ye, you crit 3, he crits none, and as i said, fully buffed mortal
so, 70-0 in 1.4s if im correct
limber relic
ok
frank knoll
When ever I try demolish it never seems to crit or do a bunch of damage
green wharf
cause its rng ass skill
frank knoll
Maybe I gear my other warrior in some crit gear and do collo arms
ebon steeple
I never think demolish is going to hit hard, i always assume the ms after will or take a chunk out of them
spice hornet
my advice is to forgett your ratings and play to learn. if you "deserve" to be a...
my advice is if SeifCham has gladiator in a season then you know inflation is in
limber relic
true. yet Qfiend will be hardstuck rival nomatterwhat.
fickle forge
fk demolish
Posts a deathlog hitting what MS hits for
limber relic
show me where ur hitting 6m consistant
urban skiff
I need to know how voidweaver healing is affected by a grounding totem after the mindblast. Does the void blasts consume the totem or is it one of the spells it'll continue to absorb until it's actively killed or expires? And will spells absorbed by the totem result in zero healing done?
I've tried grounding the mindblast but it doesn't seem to actually do anything to prevent the rift?
wheat jay
cant ground ground effects
fickle forge
show me where ur hitting 6m consistant
Is your Rampage consistent?
Always got x5 RB stacks and Avatar up?
wheat jay
ngl if any spec was hitting consistent 7 or 6mil hits every 3 globals nothing else would be played in this game
you'd see 3x fury going around
xD
urban skiff
cant ground ground effects
but the mindblast itself landing on a target is what should set the target of the ground effect. But it doesn't, probably because they wanted to avoid shamans and warriors completely negating the entirety of a hero tree.
This video sounds kind of interesting for a dumbass like me
sounds like he has to start at 1k mmr
fickle forge
copper fox
@sharp meteor I’m getting flamed so hard for being new on the ladder lmfao
It’s hilarious
I’m ruining the repeated r1 guys plans
Naird pushed last night but so did I
sharp meteor
ya people get fat
copper fox
I tried to push #1 but had some bad luck games
sharp meteor
its the worst in blitz cos most of them dont even realize
that any human could jsut keybind an alt
and get r1 in a seas of caring
on 80% of specs
copper fox
Yep
sharp meteor
60% of it is getting the initial cr
copper fox
And these guys don’t have high xp anywhere else. On a player to player base I outplay the shit out of them
hot solstice
what mmr with no backpedalers?
copper fox
Yea I’m 3100 mmr rn so I gotta wait