pvp

[urban skiff]

I needs it

[fierce elm]

Panda druids when

Bear they just remain the same

[urban skiff]

Haranir missing a panda like skin colour

Tbh

[wheat jay]

Just drop to 4 legs lmao

[fierce elm]

naa they just keep standing up

nothing changes

[urban skiff]

travel form ground is just continuous roll animation

people mount you and they ride the barrel druid

[green wharf]

wtf

fun detecte fun removed

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm how do you feel about healer interrupts being brought back as pvp talents?

will it disproportionately benefit some healers?

[urban skiff]

oh man some people REALLY want their groups to succeed

[idle falcon]

huge?

doesn't this count roots or

[wheat jay]

Should

[idle falcon]

huge

30 sec root/fear remover

isnt it basically the trinket

but doesnt remove ccs

if human

u basically dont need trink

[urban skiff]

absolutely huge but people tell me they don't have points to pick it

[idle falcon]

it's litterally manditory

[urban skiff]

I say they do, they just don't want to give up their +0.5% damage increases to get it

[idle falcon]

if u dont pick it cant go on

[urban skiff]

THE SHOW MUST GO OOOOOOOOOON

https://tenor.com/view/moulin-rouge-dance-dancing-performance-happy-gif-3723311

[idle falcon]

either go second wind into stuns/spear also slow

or take the talent

[urban skiff]

I love the javelin talent

kind of wish it would replace heroic throw with a javelin button that turns back into heroic throw

after being used

A target that you have hamstrung within the last 3 seconds move out of range enables a javelin. Can only proc once every minute or 30 seconds or whatever

[idle falcon]

what do u think of spear leap

[wheat jay]

Never gonna be used

Unless shaman knocks you back

[idle falcon]

real

[fierce elm]

yes

[fierce elm]

We dont pick it

you lose tremor buddy

[fierce elm]

depends on how much of a sniper one is

[wheat jay]

Lets take kargish for example

Hes never gonna use it

[fierce elm]

Kargish doesnt risk it

dude is a pansy

[wheat jay]

Real

[graceful moon]

lmfaooooo

[cosmic field]

https://x.com/Warriedx/status/1981164542215541115

Warried (@Warriedx)

New Warrior Spear on Alpha!
So cool.

X · Oct 23, 2025, 1:03 AM

[green anchor]

if you're on EU we can try duoQ with my 740 druid if you're having trouble getting into myth groups

[worldly oriole]

I have like 11 vers smh

needa mythic raid daily i was told to farm it

[green wharf]

i honestly doubt this will last

too much mobility for warriors

[fickle forge]

It will last, cause it's a PvE change

[graceful moon]

take more mobility from classes

maybe take warlock gate while you're at it

[copper fox]

Take mage double blink

[green wharf]

cant have warriors being too fast on keys either

[fallen estuary]

This

And also gut that bonus armor bullshit they got btw

[green wharf]

leave warlocks alone

[urban skiff]

Appreciate it, but i just thought it was weird to demand 740 from everybody 😄

[wheat jay]

Nerf

[graceful moon]

and what should warriors lose in return

genuinely interested in warrior main's pvp design perspective

[lavish quest]

F tier status

[graceful moon]

i wonder how its F tier

[fierce elm]

what am I looking at

Where MM isnt S tier

and arms is A tier

and UHDK isnt s tier

is this a ragebait list

[graceful moon]

skill capped

[fierce elm]

About what

[fierce elm]

Popularity?

[graceful moon]

very easy 🤔

[fierce elm]

Ah that makes more sense

[fallen estuary]

Heroic throw ofc

[fickle forge]

Is this like, a damage rotation thing?

Shuffle tier list?

[fierce elm]

This has to be bait

S tier WW

[graceful moon]

im sending u what they put there

[fierce elm]

S tier fury

WHERE

send the LINK

[lavish quest]

Only the real ones will acknowledge warrior is F tier

[green anchor]

it's 💯 overkill but can't blame anyone if they don't wanna waste any time

[frank knoll]

WW is Z tier

[graceful moon]

still i see only melees and warrior

[frank knoll]

Why does every spec I genuinely enjoy playing have to suck

[graceful moon]

so this brings me to the conclusion that all these sites are dogshit

and nothing is real except the player experience

BUT THE DATA SAYS OTHERWISE

[frank knoll]

I play the 4th and 5th worse melee specs

[fickle forge]

But what is it for

Lmao

[graceful moon]

3s

[fickle forge]

WW S tier in 3s?

Crazy take

[frank knoll]

Why cause Dorito played WW at AWC and lost?

[fickle forge]

There was like an enh+WW team that turbo fed

[frank knoll]

It was Ele WW and that was F tier
Saul and Dorito

[fickle forge]

Idk what we're trynna argue though

Melee good, caster bad?

[frank knoll]

I think we agree
That WW is ass

It’s good for beating up 1600 xp casters

[fickle forge]

Cause Idk man, this is what I see in 2.2k+ on EU

It's a way more hybrid oriented meta

[fierce elm]

7 spots until the first melee

[graceful moon]

that's healers bro

[fierce elm]

they count

1 melee in the top 10

uhdk/ret does not count as melee

[fierce elm]

top 10 has 2 melees

[wheat jay]

What's melee

Dh

Ww

Wart

Feral

Rogue

[fierce elm]

Dh/ww/warr/feral/rogue

ya

WHAT ABOUT SURVIVAL, if ret is ranged so is survival

Frost DK too

[wheat jay]

It is

[graceful moon]

the copium here is dangerous

[fierce elm]

Is it?

[wheat jay]

One melee ability, two leaps

[fierce elm]

I dont even play warrior

[wheat jay]

About?

Brother I play 3 classes and none wear plate

[fierce elm]

3s is hybrid in EU, ss is whatever is strong so MM/Ret/Voidweaver

3s is MM/Uhdk/balance/dh/ret/voidweaver

[wheat jay]

Rest is ass

[fierce elm]

Spriest is also kinda bumpin tbh

[wheat jay]

Spriest is weird

Noone knows what it does

Only some freaks play it

Noone wants to hang out with a spriest or have it in a group

[lavish quest]

Rep =/= power always. Woyer is ass, but we still play it. Thus representation stays up :)

When mage is op (always) its rep doesn't fly up because you have to have 0 self respect to play it

[copper fox]

Mage has been the most op spec in the game since 2004

with 2 bad seasons

Out of 30+

Let it die

[sand sundial]

nah mage is fun asf

[fickle forge]

I haven't seen you make your argument yet though

[graceful moon]

what argument

warrior isnt F tier

its pretty strong

[fickle forge]

Is that your argument?

Warrior good?

Alright, we agree

[fierce elm]

lmfao

You dont agree

[graceful moon]

he was saying warrior is F tier

[fierce elm]

stop lying Karg

[graceful moon]

i sent data

[fierce elm]

You need to read through Lelands writings

brother

[fickle forge]

I don't think it's that good into the meta rn, but it's still fine in your BiS comps

[fierce elm]

Leland is a prot paladin main

[fickle forge]

This voidweaver cringe doesn't benefit warr, but you can just Q thunder cleave and still be A tier

[fierce elm]

Why would Ele play with you

[fickle forge]

It's literally only Meth and I in this convo who plays warr

The rest play other shit

[fierce elm]

I play warrior

wdym

Im higher than 96% of this discord on my warrior

[fickle forge]

Yip yap

[fierce elm]

I am wdym

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/jay69design-gif-2843296266684146745

[green wharf]

tbf, 95% of the discord play pve only or classic

[wheat jay]

yall suck

[fierce elm]

95% of this channel them

[lavish quest]

What? Lemix is out

It's Veng DH

[fickle forge]

I am above Hayne, don't talk to me

[wheat jay]

who?

[elfin surge]

woyer bad

:(

[fickle forge]

Hayne

[lavish quest]

bUt ThE dAtA

[elfin surge]

what data

[lavish quest]

Some random bs off of skillcaps website I guess

shrug

[elfin surge]

oh

[fickle forge]

PayUsgapped

[elfin surge]

yeah fury probably really good at 1300cr

S tier for 1500 players to play

W

[lavish quest]

Unfortunately woyer falls victim to the slowly walk away meta

[fickle forge]

Nerf cringeweaver and woyer is back

[wheat jay]

literally who?

[fickle forge]

You know who it is dude

[lavish quest]

To C tier

[fickle forge]

You've literally talked about him before

[wheat jay]

ye i do

[fierce elm]

Hayne is a champ

[wheat jay]

that would giga shift the meta lol

[copper fox]

Warrior is bad

[fierce elm]

Warrior is good

[copper fox]

Or maybe it’s just me

@elfin surge kalvish was talking shit about you this morning

Second line specifically

[fickle forge]

Kalvish cannot comprehend what it is to have an evolving and engaging life where you pick up multiple interests as you go along

[copper fox]

Bro he’s like 13 he will evolve give him 12 minutes to exist

[lavish quest]

Nope, says abort... maybe nevermind

[fickle forge]

Pretty Whaazz said it best

[green wharf]

is mud washed?

[fickle forge]

The best player atm is some random Bob who's either not got the ressources or dedication to push

[green wharf]

unemployed bros keep winning

game is down again, time to see the family

the kids will be surprised, two visits in a week

[elfin surge]

LMFAO

I mean yeah some people get it once then never to be seen again

I think getting 6 in a row would put me in the clear though

[copper fox]

Ok fair lol

That one’s hard to argue

[green wharf]

its a lot of commitment thats for sure. Some people just stop playing for whatever reasons

[elfin surge]

I think hes just saying theres some players who just randomly are in the right place at the right time and are able to get r1 but never do again which is true

A dk named bukum got his first and only r1 with me. He was just online and I was bored and asked to queue and I was able to get a healer with crazy mmr so he got r1 but will never be able to get it again

others like uglybaldbaby will probably not get it again even though I think he can be a really good feral

he played a meta that fit his playstyle enjoyed the game enough to push and played with people he liked

[fierce elm]

MUD is carried

[elfin surge]

I've definitely been able to play with some really good players

[lavish quest]

MUD had enough funds to pay the cabal for 6 seasons

[elfin surge]

most of my r1s i would consider myself to be the worst on the team

[lavish quest]

But once the streamer checks started drying up

Oof

[copper fox]

Well you’re the warrior

So

You’re just the ms bot

lol

Jk but srs

[elfin surge]

Coreygunz Challengerz Askronnie Vanguards Bleeds Petkick

are all the goats of their class

[fierce elm]

Washed

[elfin surge]

I'm only as good as the game is breh

[wheat jay]

remember when mud was 5x r1?

🙁

[copper fox]

Yep all 1 class players as it should be.
Well vanguards played enhance for a bit too but not like ret

Multi classers are bums

[urban skiff]

what the heck is tarnished edition?

[worldly oriole]

mud was a nub in bfa

[spice hornet]

what about me

[urban skiff]

this timewalking team tho

[worldly oriole]

lmao what class is beer zerrch

[copper fox]

Probably monk

[urban skiff]

SHAMAN

[copper fox]

Wow

Not lore accurate

Insane

[urban skiff]

lore accurate body

[copper fox]

True

[urban skiff]

Primogenitor would suit a drachtyr shaman though

unfortunately that dream is dead

[worldly oriole]

LOL ITS so easy

[copper fox]

Yea Tony it’s remix

It’s supposed to be

[rancid granite]

im gonna screenshot this and put it on the fridge for everyone to see Tony

proud of you

[fickle forge]

We would have known if y'all had ever signed up for AWC

[elfin surge]

I played in the cata awc

[fickle forge]

Yeah and we remember how that went

Not sure why y'all didn't do it in your prime on the game you dominated

[elfin surge]

Did the best of any warrior on NA

[copper fox]

Who did you play with? I don’t remember

I played splay rdruid with Draen and Gaymanx… they went to blizzcon with a much better healer than me lol

[elfin surge]

uglybaldbaby and pinkteddyp

[spice hornet]

I watched those games

Cata warrior sucks balls

[elfin surge]

It was pretty mid

Hearing them say uglybaldbaby on stream while we're fighting against cdew was peak content

[spice hornet]

[copper fox]

They don’t make teams like cata awc teams anymore

Kalvish playing with kubzy now is hilarious

It’s like his grandpa teaching him

[spice hornet]

Isn’t kalvish like 18

[copper fox]

He’s 19

Kubzy is like 52

[fierce elm]

Goddamn UNC

[green wharf]

it was when i started

so going from cata right into MOP was poggers

[copper fox]

@fierce elm i just tried to start my arms ss journey for conq

want to see the result

[fierce elm]

you 2400 yet

[copper fox]

first ss arms game ever

[fierce elm]

LMFAO

[copper fox]

🙂

[fierce elm]

Can't win versus these 1700 gamers

its over for you

oh wait someone left

I didn't even see that LMFAO

I am losing my mind

[copper fox]

yea that’s the point

I did the total dmg of the other 3 dps basically

And the rdruid was like nvm

[fierce elm]

I thought you went 1-5

[copper fox]

No

Wait

I did more dmg

That the other 3 dps

Combined

[ebon steeple]

Arms isn't that bad lmao

[copper fox]

And the Druid left

Lmfao

[fierce elm]

Meth is that bad at arms

I didnt say Arms is that bad brother bear

[copper fox]

I did

It’s ass

Look

Can’t even get more than 1 win

[ebon steeple]

Skill issue

[copper fox]

Truly

[novel crater]

Meth has betrayed the Fury gods

They are punishing him

[fierce elm]

Don't you play Ret

[copper fox]

I JUST WANT CONQUEST FOR ALTS

also yea he’s a ret

[novel crater]

Im 2 of the only 8 Fury wars above 2400 rn

No ret

Its okay

Im being forced into arms too

After I finish my glad wins

[ebon steeple]

Haven't touch 3s much since my main glad team quit wow

Sadge

[novel crater]

My team legit had an intervention

Showing me the ladder

😂😂

[ebon steeple]

"Taps on the screen, see that spec. Play that fucking spec

[novel crater]

Im 32/50 wins now

[copper fox]

You pushing r1?

[novel crater]

In shuff

And 2700 3s later

[copper fox]

You’re being forced into arms for what

I mean

[ebon steeple]

3s prob

[copper fox]

Oh for the 2700 achievement

Got you

[novel crater]

Yeye remember im a baby glad

I dont have it

DF baby

[copper fox]

Yea that’s fair fury is dead when gates open

2700 as fury would be hard af

[novel crater]

Ehh idk

I think its fine later in the season

We got 2600 mmr

Yersteday

[copper fox]

It’s fine if voidweaver gets nerfed

But if it doesn’t then nothing changes

[novel crater]

And got jbz and aiden 2 times in a row so…

Boomie rogue

Not fuck

[copper fox]

I got back over 2300 lol

[novel crater]

Had to go into their disc “I thought we were friends…”

😂😂

[novel crater]

Finally

[copper fox]

Bro

I’m playing the hard comps out here

I don’t have fucking hogwarts friends list like you

[novel crater]

I can send u casters

[copper fox]

Dev mage locks

[novel crater]

Lmao

I do have

A pokemon list

For a btag

Thats true

Gotta catch them all

[copper fox]

Fucking guy is Harry Potter and the 7 dwarves of hogwarts

My friends list

[novel crater]

Lmao

[copper fox]

I stg

Is melee

[novel crater]

Im doing gods work

Getting all the good casters for us

[copper fox]

I have 1 mage on my FL

WELL SEND ME SOME

[novel crater]

Im missing hansol

And a couple others

And im done with mages

[copper fox]

Stonedmonkey/Blastoize is the mage I have on FL

THATS IT

everyone else is a warrior ret or dk

Or healer

[novel crater]

Lmao

I was in a group/call the other day

With horror and akkirra

Both healer mains

And xrtj

And i told them

[copper fox]

Dude fr get me caster friends I need it for r1 in midnight

[novel crater]

“I love u guys.. I would trade all these fucking R1 dps for 2200 healers fuck them”

😂😂😂😂

[copper fox]

Lmao

I’ll trade you healers

[novel crater]

Fuck no

Lol

[copper fox]

I have some of the best healers in the game on my fl

Bro

[novel crater]

Who do u wanna trade

I got jer

And wubbie

😂 i aint trading that

Unless its feedgod

[copper fox]

I got challengerz and rynd

I’ll give you challengerz for a caster

[novel crater]

Challengerz is tempting cuz he can play void

What caster u want?

[copper fox]

Mage or dev capable of r1 if not already r1 in some form of bracket

[fierce elm]

Why would they want a warrior smh

[placid patio]

damn

[novel crater]

All the ones i have are R1

[placid patio]

Its like trading pokemon

[fierce elm]

they can pick 5 better specs in a second

[copper fox]

Give me a r1 dev

[novel crater]

I have THE R1 dev

Ocd

[copper fox]

GIVE ME THE R1 DEV

[novel crater]

He is my boy tho

[placid patio]

Charizard

Oh no that was pokemon

Im sry

[copper fox]

Does he have alt dragons

[novel crater]

I can get him to q games with y after he grinds wins tho prob

Yeye

He was #1 2 4 5 aug last season

And 3 dev

Just

Dont tell him he is good

Tell him he is shit to his face

😂😂

[copper fox]

I don’t tell anyone they’re good unless they’re healing me

[novel crater]

Good good

How it should be

[copper fox]

Alright good doing business

[urban skiff]

what's for dinner lads? I'm havin' pulled duck burger

[copper fox]

Chicken and rice

Just got the new headless horseman mount I’ll never use

Insane

[urban skiff]

My ricecooker has begun burning the rice at the bottom and I don't want to buy a new one yet so rice are dead to me for a while.

[copper fox]

You do a full cleaning every time you use it?

[urban skiff]

yeah

Straight up wash and scrub it

normal kind of scrub, not ripping the material to shreds with like steel wool covered in acid

[copper fox]

Damn

[urban skiff]

cooking time is cleaning time

[lavish quest]

Finally bothered to do fury to 1800, only took a handful of shuffles, but holy hell is this class dog

[haughty jewel]

that was me on dh

day 2

@lavish quest

[lavish quest]

My motivation to play this season has been nonexistent

Its so bad, and I'm enjoying like 5 other games way more lol

[novel crater]

Rotisserie chicken

[copper fox]

@fierce elm how am I supposed to 6-0 a lobby with a fire mage that does less than both healers dmg

??????

CANNOT BE CARRIED AS ARMS

[hot solstice]

Shuffle shoud go

Blitz should go

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-skill-issue-gif-21867945

[warm plinth]

go straight to being the only modes for pvp? I agree

[wheat jay]

@hot solstice true

shuffle and blitz ultimately impacted pvp negatively

ppl cry that pve is taking over pve

for a good fuckign reason

[hot solstice]

Just make it into nonrated mode

[wheat jay]

its a pve mode lmao

[wheat jay]

or remove rewards

make it a conquest farming mode

or go back in time to prevent it's introduction

[hot solstice]

so ppl farm conquest there cause they "cant find teammates"

[wheat jay]

rated bgs were 100x better than blitz

[cunning roost]

If you could remove 1 spell from any class what would it be? Personally i would choose to remove blink from mages with searing glare from paladins as a runner up

[hot solstice]

rbg is dead cause blitz

[wheat jay]

shuffle is a joke cuz of inflation

[wheat jay]

glare 100%

[hot solstice]

guess spec

2400 and u are top 100

cba

well glare will replace blind so at least something

ofc if they pick talent

[wheat jay]

mmmm

ret?

[hot solstice]

udk

[wheat jay]

oh

[hot solstice]

I think there will be lot more rets

[wheat jay]

nah

or do you mean midnight?

cuz bad rets will suffer in midnight

100%

[hot solstice]

I mean this ssn

[wheat jay]

brother

season over

its waiting room for midnight

[hot solstice]

well still be doing 3s

[wheat jay]

so we can play normal games again

no more weakaura maxxing

btw they're giving more acces to auras

[hot solstice]

doubt, shit just has too much.... buble/2bops/sac/freedom/sanc/yellow pis

[wheat jay]

for addons

[wheat jay]

ye, and most rely on weakauras and trackers to use 3 of them

4 actually

sanc is 95% weakaura gaming

so is bop

so is sac

so is freedom

[hot solstice]

I realy like how nowadays some pala throws my warrior a duel and then just presses lay+bubble+bop

[wheat jay]

xd

[hot solstice]

Realy miss old days bubble considered shamefull in duel

[wheat jay]

i mean

[ebon steeple]

I mean warrior isn't the best for dueling in the first place

[hot solstice]

do they remove big debuffs?

[wheat jay]

it is still shameful

[wheat jay]

yes

brother

you can't track anything onyour enemies

unless you look at their buffs bar xD

y know, small buffs

on their frame

you lose all the trackers

for interrupts

trinket

cc

and so on

[hot solstice]

no gladius?

[wheat jay]

cooldown tracking is also gone

as of now

[hot solstice]

kek

[copper fox]

The fury warrior mongo dream is going to be so real

[wheat jay]

if gladius stays, and it 99% will stay

it will be hp bar, resource bar, done

[hot solstice]

dr?

[copper fox]

Gladius is a combat addon

[wheat jay]

no drs

[hot solstice]

I mean its kinda hard to miss dr on 30sec stun

[wheat jay]

they are allowing tracking of hp values now

[hot solstice]

but still

[wheat jay]

they allowed some more things now Methyl

[ebon steeple]

Blizz is making their own dr tracker tho

[wheat jay]

like changing of nameplate color depending on aggro

[hot solstice]

Cba we getting wow on smartphones soon

[wheat jay]

stated where exactly?

cuz ive never heard of that

[copper fox]

Google it

It’s there

lol

[wheat jay]

i did, can't see mention of them making their own dr tracker for pvp

[copper fox]

Shared cc

[ebon steeple]

Yeee

[copper fox]

That’s a Dr tracker

[wheat jay]

welp

i stand corrected

oh well

imfine with that

[copper fox]

Yea it’s good

[wheat jay]

cuz its technically what WE do, not enemies

i hope we won't be able to track enemies' stuff

[copper fox]

I doubt

[wheat jay]

otherwise we'll have weakaura maxxing again

[copper fox]

Yea lol

I don’t think we will be able to

[wheat jay]

ye

same

[copper fox]

That’s what they don’t want

Specifically

[wheat jay]

I legit want a fresh pvp without all the addons galore

like, i have like 60 addons myself, but they're 90% cosmetic XD

like plater or elvui haha

[copper fox]

Yea same

[wheat jay]

apparently plater has a chance of surviving

O_O

same with elvui

as long as they remove few things

[warm plinth]

them removing all healer kicks but shaman is something

[wheat jay]

ahahhahahahahaha

bro survi got kinda weird modifiers

and numbers

[copper fox]

Why? Sham had it first

Just back to normal

30 second cd too

It’s fine

[warm plinth]

I mean it feels weird that theyd just flat out remove them, instead of nerfing them or something

I guess its for the dumbing down of the game, which is fine

[wheat jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/737974062885634132/1431007807150489712/image.png?ex=68fbd960&is=68fa87e0&hm=7c609b621e4806b70b7a1d7f648f702f30eed46bc1d676ac809f024605d7e09b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=265&height=154

guys

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/737974062885634132/1431007887328542860/image.png?ex=68fbd973&is=68fa87f3&hm=e1f3f62ff757f2a9e084690f50b67bb2145ff89635d75b1ec2cea724cf78ac80&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=292&height=167

30s cd

doesn't it kinda look like demolish every 30s?

with this ap ratio?

[warm plinth]

isnt it a 1 min

[warm plinth]

oh

[wheat jay]

like

i lkike that a lot

but like

high ap?

very?

[copper fox]

Removing micro annoyances isn’t dumbing the game down lol

Micro shit made PvP nearly impossible to balance

[wheat jay]

^

pvp was more fun when cc was scarce but long

[copper fox]

Healers don’t need kicks

[wheat jay]

^ that too

[copper fox]

Yea

[warm plinth]

healers deserve nothing

[wheat jay]

they do

to suffer

[copper fox]

lol

[warm plinth]

I was thinking more for m+ wise tbh

[copper fox]

Ah ok yea idc about that

[warm plinth]

esp since I pug all my keys, once less kick is gonna suck

[copper fox]

So I have no opinion there

[warm plinth]

its def more nice for pvp, makes healers a tiny bit easier to deal with

[worldly oriole]

lol brah back in my day rsham was trashy for m+

[warm plinth]

and m+ was easier too

[worldly oriole]

and im pretty sure rdruid didnt have kick in bfa

[warm plinth]

shit hasnt been good since legion

[green anchor]

piece of sh*t balance got disarm

in legion or bfa

[worldly oriole]

uhhhh

[wheat jay]

shadowlands ppv was mad fun

[elfin surge]

ppv

[wheat jay]

big pp

[spice hornet]

@haughty jewel I wanna be Flokkjr

[wheat jay]

that's kinda

oh well who am i to judge

[frank knoll]

Yooooo that red dragon /red mog is sick

[wheat jay]

brother

that red mog

is one piece O_O

literally

singular piece of armor

O_O

[copper fox]

lol

[urban skiff]

Fat dragons when??

[lavish quest]

Boys, did I pull a Tony right?

[hearty vault]

people, what do u think about new talents change? I enjoy spear, but still defensively weak without a healer in your ass.

[green anchor]

warrior cannot live without a healer

I don't see it changing in Midnight

[hearty vault]

Classic's idea, all classes evolve and change with respect to Classic. But the warrior must not

all classes has "almost immunity moments", warrior must not.

[frank knoll]

I think WW is kinda a good spec if you like a phys melee that is good at 1v1s and isn’t a feral or rogue

[wheat jay]

that's wrong on so many levels lmao

warrior could win duels and compete in 1v1 all the way till bfa

since bfa its weak as hell in 1v1 situations

[worldly oriole]

Employed Lord Of The Highway Trucks lol

@lavish quest

[spice hornet]

@lavish quest is it true you’re gonna hire Tony?

Tired of him playing WoW on my dollar

[worldly oriole]

I played wow for free

for years

[fierce elm]

Oh my god arms SUCKS

[wheat jay]

ye afro

methyl sucks

carried by furry

fury*

sameshit

[fierce elm]

Makes sense

S-tier spec

[lavish quest]

He's saying I'm employed, not that I'm employing him lmao

[wheat jay]

in other words is still not

[warm plinth]

pvp is saved

[copper fox]

Horde and alliance have different?

I like the horde one

[wheat jay]

As god intended

[copper fox]

Midnight is based

Who’s the best warrior in midnight btw?

[green wharf]

big chongus

it reminds me the dragonborn i played

my art/ the a.i and photoshop makeover

[rancid granite]

looks like a dark souls boss i love it

[green wharf]

if dracthyr were good we could play like this

btw, this

is pretty fucking good

easy top 3 monster

but its too sweet

[novel crater]

Astral Legend Santi incoming

[spice hornet]

@copper fox Flokk joins the discord channel im in

starts playing gay porn

[fierce elm]

Sounds like Flokk

[copper fox]

LOL

[green wharf]

brother

what kind of discords are you in

[worldly oriole]

hes in the gachi lover gamer disc

for owners only

()

[fierce elm]

The r1 discs

[spice hornet]

He told me he learned that from @elfin surge

[frank knoll]

This guy
Never played WoW before this season
Trying to get Glad in his 1st season

[spice hornet]

good for him

hes already higher than 80% of the people in here

[copper fox]

How does flokk play every bracket all day

Both specs

He’s doing rbgs rn

He’s like 2300

[spice hornet]

he's on that tony time

[copper fox]

That’s insane

Good for him

Meanwhile I asked him for a mt blitz spec and he ghosted me

So I had to yolo my own

[spice hornet]

Flokk gatekeeps

[copper fox]

He half gatekeeps

Gave me some info

Just the tip

[frank knoll]

Yeah I was surprised to see him at 2k
I suspect carries

[green wharf]

pvp is officially dead

https://tenor.com/view/pour-drink-pouring-alcohol-respect-gif-9283896756814937503

[fallen estuary]

LMFAOOOOO

[spice hornet]

invite me to the pvp discord

[fallen estuary]

Sheesh fyne 🙄

Just dont spam gay porn

[green wharf]

he gonna do it

[urban skiff]

I mean, this but I'd run that aesthetic as a lizardfolk path of the beast barbarian

Just straight up eat people

aww yir here i go again daytime queue

[wheat jay]

lmao

[copper fox]

Yo same inv

[graceful moon]

true

nothing more infuriating than juking both kicks and the evoker healer locks you

wl is torture

[copper fox]

Precog? This literally cannot happen

[worldly oriole]

Im quitting Coroprate America To YouTube

😂

[wheat jay]

brother you werent even a part of it

wtf are you quitting?\

[worldly oriole]

its a meme

[graceful moon]

true, green geared

[green wharf]

based

[graceful moon]

but i find it odd to have external gear things to be able to play the game

or some specs having ethereal wraps do 30% of their dps

[wheat jay]

i love how everyone agrees healer shouldn't ahve a kick xD

[copper fox]

Gear should always be part of the game

lol

This game would suck without it

But yea fuck healer kicks

They don’t need them

[frank knoll]

He’s quitting his job at Wawa

[frank knoll]

Gear should be a part of my LIFE but I’m too scared

[copper fox]

So true

[lavish quest]

Just remove healers

Ez

[green wharf]

just remove healing all together

[wheat jay]

ok this is broken

wtf lmao

[fallen estuary]

EIGHTY?!?!?!?!

E
I
G
H
T
Y
?

For 12 SECONDS

Theres NO WAY that makes it live

[wheat jay]

i mean

wing clip is 75%

good luck rotting with your weakass hamstring

losers

L

[fallen estuary]

Hamstring is 50% while everyone elses is around 200%

[fierce elm]

I hope it makes it

[copper fox]

It’s ok dabdaddy just do more dmg

[fallen estuary]

Meanwhile...

[worldly oriole]

Wtf is blight

from death knight or warlock?

[frank knoll]

i think for onvce im going to try

[green wharf]

seems balanced to me

warlocks need it

[green wharf]

but you see

we can hamstring with heroic throw now

[fallen estuary]

Oops they randomly broke out of it lol

Atleast spear is the size of a orbital nuke now

So the stupid ass animation can catch someone on the point you casted on

[hot solstice]

no if u take new zerk talent

[copper fox]

[rustic quest]

Mobility wise we currently look better in Midnight, no?

[hot solstice]

guys

[rustic quest]

Would be nice to be able to drop this gnome ass race

[hot solstice]

it all doesnt matter if we hit like a truck and go full crit mastery after versa

which seems to be kinda the way

at least on Mag streams

[rustic quest]

Mastery seems boring as hell midnight.

Crit/haste after vers

But we’ll see

[hot solstice]

ye but it doesnt matter if u 2tap something

[rustic quest]

I wish

[copper fox]

mag said go crit s1 tww as well

Changed his mind 4 weeks in

Ruined everyone’s gearing path

It’s never crit

lol

[hot solstice]

any1 went arms ssn1?

thought fury was obvious way back then

[copper fox]

Well yea but there’s always arms purists

[frank knoll]

Unreal

How bad

Some people are

This is why I quit queuing shuffle after I get set

At 1900
Trueshot and incarn are up
Enh runs behind pillar at 50% hp w/no trinket or cds and dies

[hot solstice]

"I am DF ssn1 legend on ret, trust me"

[frank knoll]

Also
Healer is in a clone

[lavish quest]

Guys, will woyer finally break out of F tier?

[hot solstice]

Its F+ wdym?

[frank knoll]

-30 rating yay

2/4

I’ve gone 5/1-4/2 up until now
I’m pissed off and don’t wanna queue anymore

[dire basalt]

mage lost 130 rating lul

[hot solstice]

no

he lost mmr

and clearly no 130

[frank knoll]

I queued with him 2 times
He randomly one shot somebody one round but was otherwise bad

[spice hornet]

I did this and bricked that warr for the rest of the season

[copper fox]

Lmfao I actually didn’t too

Had 1 useless warrior

[fierce elm]

step up

remember day 1 medallion

[twin cedar]

What is the better option of powerful enrage and frenzied enrage?

[copper fox]

Depends on your stats/spec

[frank knoll]

Yeah step up
Lock in
Winners find a way
No victim here

[fierce elm]

STEP UP

[frank knoll]

The boomy was elite Xp and I beat him cause i saw he swapped, reflected a clone
Killed his healer
Felt good

[exotic forge]

fuckem

[wheat jay]

yes, to G tier

[lavish quest]

Straight gangsta

[green wharf]

i finnaly understood leland is saying warrior when he says woyer

is that some uwu language dialect that the twinks use

[shell iron]

Are prots totally unkillable in 1v1 PVP duels? With the new power through adversity PVP talent they get up to 40% DR which seems super high?

[lavish quest]

Everything is unkillable 1v1 as a woyer

[green wharf]

why are you dueling a tank

[shell iron]

Because tanks are a class like DPS and Healers and should/ can be expected to participate in PVP

[green wharf]

but you know what tanks are supposed to do right

[shell iron]

Yep. Same as I know about DPS and healers. 0 difference

[hearty vault]

You are 100% right. I was being ironic about what people always say about the warrior "should always go with a healer."

[shell iron]

the whole "Ohh but why play tank in pvp" is an awfully wrong, flawed cliche that is being repeated by people refusing to acknowledge that just like

• DPS can participate in PVP
• healers can participate in PVP
  ...... guess what? Tanks can participate in PVP

[green wharf]

tanks tank, they are hard to kill, if you do a 1x1 with one you are bound to lose by the logic of it

if you win just mean the tank was rly bad

[rancid granite]

it's a flex point

[wheat jay]

i see tank in pvp i spit

👍

[rancid granite]

go to goldshire and talk shit to those afraid to duel a warrior

and if they agree? stomp them as prot gg ez

[shell iron]

Blizz has a pvp modifier that makes tanks take close to 70% extra damage to make up for their high durability

[copper fox]

70% extra dmg? You sure?

[shell iron]

mhm absolutely (60%+ or close)

They started lower at like 20%-30% 4-5 expansions ago and juiced that twice throughout the last expansions

[wheat jay]

50% iirc

[hearty vault]

Blizzard should decrease a lot tanks defensives and increase their dmg for pvp

[shell iron]

Which tank spec is most unkillable in pvp?

I remember days when guardian druids were absolutely horrible to kill

[hearty vault]

some dps classes cant kill tanks easily (warriors killing warriors tanks). I know, Its not right...

[green wharf]

that would make then just dps in pvp no?

[hearty vault]

• -, tanks could play in TF without be a waste rol. But yes, it could be like a dps who does a few less dps but resist more

[green wharf]

pve bros are mad spear isn a pull anymore and its a leap

saying warriors already have too much mobility

[hearty vault]

... ...

[green wharf]

is it true chat?

[rancid granite]

need to ask kennie

[frank knoll]

And they have a role just like DPS and healer
Tanks function to livelord and spin in BGs
They have no function in Arena

[copper fox]

Yea the issue is they’re useless

lol

[frank knoll]

All of em except VDH and Brew
Prot dies to all of the stuff every other warrior spec dies to

[hearty vault]

yes, warrior tank and their "block mechanic" is useless in pvp

dont know why u cant block a fire ball :S

[shell iron]

I firmly believe it is Blizzards failure to integrate tanks properly into PVP.

[green wharf]

the comeback of 5x5?

[wheat jay]

i hope they don't integrate tanks into pvp

unless they rework the entirety of tank spec to work like normal dps except for some mechanic in m+ and raids

👍

[hearty vault]

why no? just change tanks

[wheat jay]

how would you change tanks to integrate them into arena, in a way thats different than i what i said

which ultimately would result in them being just another dps and not a tank at all

[hearty vault]

ah! no, arena u cant.

[wheat jay]

oh we're talking pve blitz?

sheesh i didnt notice

mb

[hearty vault]

giving to tank support skills like evoker? dont know, hard to arenas

[wheat jay]

there's a reason everyone hated augmentation in arena O_O

it was so disgusting that blizz had to literally gut them

nerf them so hard they were unplayable

[green wharf]

rare blizz win

[wheat jay]

real

[hearty vault]

well, I hate aug too, but I like that blizzard try to change the game a few. I am boring about "3v3 of always"

[wheat jay]

that's why blizz is reworking it

by changing classes

addons

cc

drs

pvp changes are mostly class changes

[hearty vault]

I hope this work :]

[wheat jay]

why would it not

well, depends

let me explain

no addons

means no external help in reacting to enemy's actions

MEANING

bad players with bad awareness will suffer

and game will be harder for them

[hearty vault]

exactly! I think like u

[wheat jay]

players with good awareness will thrive

all in all

good changes

[hearty vault]

did u play alpha? what about arms without a healer? a disaster o worst?

[wheat jay]

i did not

arms without a healer

okay

let me ask you

this

there is warrior

and there is lets say

paladin

who wins 1v1

or monk

or hunter

or mage

or lock

or any class O_O

[hearty vault]

hhahahaah

[wheat jay]

arms loses

[fierce elm]

why is Artji writing in two word sentences

[hearty vault]

I will hate our new passives defensives on BGs, where maybe u dont want to use and prefer to die

[wheat jay]

i often do lmao

[hearty vault]

to give emphasis to argument, I guess

@fierce elm do u think warrior must play always with a healer in bg, true?

[frank knoll]

They’re unplayable
Sometimes though they randomly just one shot you

[green wharf]

Must is a strong word, you definetly can play without one

but you are one of the few classes who cant heal yourself 🤷🏾‍♂️

so having a pocket healer so you can focus only on zug is the best

[hearty vault]

yes yes, and u can go inside BG without gear and play. you know what I mean, about play situations like 2 dps v 2 dps (warrior are easy to kill there)

[fierce elm]

yes lmfao

[hearty vault]

I hate why you limit the warrior to that single role. A role that all classes play, plus others.

[fierce elm]

Every spec has a role

[scarlet barn]

In shadowlands maybe banner arms

[fierce elm]

Thats the way it is

[scarlet barn]

Also you write like epileptic haha

[fierce elm]

Warrior exceeds other specs in certain bg situations, loses in some situations

[scarlet barn]

@elfin surge

[fierce elm]

@fickle forge

[scarlet barn]

Ugly babies everywhere

[green wharf]

warrior exceed in being F tier

[hearty vault]

I don't think like you, making warriors more useful in a specific role, but the worst class in many other more important roles

[fierce elm]

So is most specs

There is no all around great spec

In BGs*

also warrior has arguably one of the most important roles as the MS effect and potential cleave damage on certain fights

[hearty vault]

but the worst without a healer situations. it's a disaster

[fierce elm]

This is ignoring that Thane Fury is probably one of the best specs in huge teamfighting maps such as EOTS

[fierce elm]

You fill a role

No spec is perfect

[scarlet barn]

Doomers gonna doom Afro

[fierce elm]

Like what are we talking about here

Every spec has a role to fulfill with strengths/weaknesses

Warrior happens to be tied down into not being favorable in situations without a healer

but probabl the BEST with a healer

[hearty vault]

A class role shouldnt be "warrior has arguably one of the most important roles as the MS effect and potential cleave damage on certain fights" I think

[fierce elm]

what

So you want every spec to be all around great?

[hearty vault]

no, but should have opportunity cause your own skill

[fierce elm]

you do have that

[wheat jay]

there was a time when specs could do everything

[fierce elm]

in situations where your spec shinss

[wheat jay]

every spec had every or most tools

[fierce elm]

like what am I reading

[wheat jay]

in mop, and ppl hated it lmao

cuz everything was the same

[fierce elm]

You cant outskill any pvp game because eventually rock paper scissors exists

and every pvp game that has multiple classes/champs/characters are rock paper scissors at the end game level if everyone is equally skilled

You are rock, stop trying to get into paper situations and you wont complain over them

[wheat jay]

^

afro spitting facts

[hearty vault]

and I am saying that warrior's rol is worst than paper or scissors or rock in BG :S

[fierce elm]

Which is absolutely untrue

[hearty vault]

Dont think so

[fierce elm]

Thane Fury is probably the best spec in EOTS

[hearty vault]

ofc! cause of OP DMG, no more

[fierce elm]

any hold the base map where team splits up Warrior is one of the best eoles

because paired with a healer they can wipe market easily

[fierce elm]

Woah no way

Like damn what is this doom posting about BGs lately

pretty sure this convo has been done with someone else here about this exact same situation

where someone wants warrior to not be warrior and then complains that warrior is not warrior