pvp

[elfin surge]

i didnt see a single warrior playing 3s yesterday

[fierce elm]

Feelsgoodman

[lavish quest]

Don't worry, warrior is still s tier

Trust

[fierce elm]

Wish I had a BM for my ret

[copper fox]

[wheat jay]

Wish I had a ret for my survi

You noob

[fickle forge]

Wish I had ele for my warr

[wheat jay]

Noone wants to play with warr

[fierce elm]

I do

[wheat jay]

shut up

you dont

we play php

nerd

time to win some games you bunch of noobs

[fierce elm]

Gonna play with Karanze (Kargish)

[wheat jay]

smh

can y'all finally win some rating?

[fierce elm]

No

Can you git gud

[wheat jay]

i already am

[worldly oriole]

https://youtube.com/shorts/omXLOpw_uiE?si=3AuKU3jM_RCu_gKR

lol I think this guy's on a treadmill with a weight vest

[spice hornet]

Ele only wants a dh

[exotic forge]

Nobody is playing warrior this season, now nobody is gonna play warrior in Midnight

[graceful moon]

wdym tryndamere ultimate on pvp talent

and mages giga nerfed

[exotic forge]

What are they removing from mages

[graceful moon]

literally everything that made mage good

[warm plinth]

like 13 talents

and a lot of defensives

[graceful moon]

shimmer/blink nerfed, blast wave removed, invis wall removed, image wall removed, displacement removed, mass barrier removed
fire only has fireball and pyro
frost lost icy veins

[exotic forge]

Mages will still be a problem so long as their instant casting still exists

#MakeMagesCast3SecondSpells

DR getting nerfed is good tho, no more sitting in 3 back to back roots

[green wharf]

yeah fuck em

[wheat jay]

Good

They prune every class like that

Which is more than fine imo

Prune this shit

Specs had too much shit

[green wharf]

then after last titan they put everything back to make people come back

is an endless circle

[wheat jay]

Pruning is good

Every spec had too much shit, too many modifiers

[fierce elm]

The 3rd in this trilogy will be Legion 2.0

[wheat jay]

Bloated to oblivion

[fierce elm]

we are in for WoD 2.0

[graceful moon]

meanwhile void dh still has 3 blinks and veng retreat

idk

[green wharf]

they ahve to coax people into playing somehow

[graceful moon]

bad marketing

[fierce elm]

And its so fucking useless

because it literally just kills you after 8s lmao

[graceful moon]

YO HARD PFP

ARF ARF

[wheat jay]

Where's the issue

It goes into melee anyway

3 only with hero talent, and you lose dmg iirc

20sec recharge

[fierce elm]

SUFFOCATE BUMDABUMBUM

Knocked Loose goes hard

[wheat jay]

20sec recharge is mad long for mobility xd

[fierce elm]

is it?

[wheat jay]

Is it not?

[fierce elm]

I dont think its mad long no

[wheat jay]

Warr 17sec iirc with double charge

Fel rush was like 8sec iirc

And two charges

[fierce elm]

I dont think its that long

[wheat jay]

And felblade, and backflip

I'd say for what we're used to its long

Its not gonna be zooming around 24/7

[fierce elm]

isnt this the ranged spec pretty much lmao

[wheat jay]

Longer cd than mage, there arent any roots or spammable cc

[wheat jay]

Depending on build

But in pvp theres like 99% chance it will play the melee/range hybrid

Going in for dmg all the time, but for short bursts

And ranged for generation of resources

Hard to say now

When there's like 99% chance it will get changed

[green wharf]

have to say again

[wheat jay]

I wouldn't be surprised if they made a full melee version, no casts but full melee

[green wharf]

fuck rend

[wheat jay]

We'll see

[green wharf]

they want to put that shit into my fury too

[wheat jay]

I hope they rework arms lol

Its in a sad state xD

[graceful moon]

the issue is that the pvp devs are out of touch

they left rng root on frost mage for the longest time so melees had to be in an arms race

suddenly they remove it and icy veins too but they dont compensate for the uptime of melee classes

same goes for locks

[green wharf]

the rework is losing shit

cause it seems we are playing the same

just using slam more

there skill that makes slam double effective for tactician

talent that make slam auto crit if it doesnt trigger

talent that make slam buff MS three times

[fierce elm]

Crazy you are playing in Midnight so you know exactly how end game pvp is

c r a z y

[orchid badge]

youre crazy if you think frostmages are suddenly gonna become weak after 20 years

[fierce elm]

We dont know if they need compensation yet lmao

Its literally the first public dev build in an alpha state my brothers

[fierce elm]

also every spec is receiving massive changes

in how they are played

Ret funnily enough gets an extra button in its rotation lmao

[wheat jay]

So, mage loses the one button that's known to be the most annyoing shit ever according to anyone facing a mage?

Or one root rather

Im fine with that

[green wharf]

its slamming time

[wheat jay]

Yep, ppl think its final tho, I'm just happy the main base seems cool

For both dh and survi

Even if they change stuff it still should be fine with how the core of it is

[green wharf]

2m cd turtle

thats gonna be huge

[wheat jay]

Bro i dont even know what cd is now

I just press it and forget about it

[green wharf]

BM is more simple, MM is dead apparently

[wheat jay]

They should remove one cc from hunter

[green wharf]

and survival gonna be rexxar

[wheat jay]

Surely dead, before anyone played it

[green wharf]

didnt they remove scatter

[wheat jay]

Survi will stay exactly the same

[sharp meteor]

Good mm is dumb cringe cheese

[wheat jay]

I dunno, if so, good

Hunter had way too much cc

Removing one, or two would be a good change

Mm is cringe

[green wharf]

damn we dont have our apex talents yet

cringe

[wheat jay]

Because they can double hit you cuz aimed is a cast and black arrow or arcane shot or anything happens same global

Its ass

[graceful moon]

they lost most of their mobility and fire is left with 2 buttons

[raw summit]

thank fuck

[green wharf]

mage should lost mirror image

so arms can get it back

as a slayer talent

[rustic quest]

Ring and dragons breath should be frost and fire spec only respectively

Dumbest shit ever that they have full access to all cc regardless of spec

[fierce elm]

Ring doesnt work without a set up cc

and no mage spec has that without dragons breath

Unless you get a raw poly off

[rustic quest]

I am unable to feel sorry for mages

[fierce elm]

Besides, there are some huge cc changes

[rustic quest]

Yeah it looks promising!

[lavish quest]

Raw rings work on me all the time

Because I'm a genius

[fierce elm]

I love raw

[orchid badge]

i hope prot warr gets some love..

[warm plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/raw-likeitraw-cj-ohh-baby-gif-20563165

[fierce elm]

get outta here bestiality mode

[orchid badge]

im part of the LGBIT community

Lets Get Back In There

[lavish quest]

[exotic forge]

I'm a simple man

I check Arms warrior rework

I see no Necro Banner

I log off

[lavish quest]

I'm a simple man. I see mages still exist, I log off

Back to dwarf employment simulator

[green wharf]

ima simple man, i see wow still exist, i log off

[wheat jay]

aftercock was better

[spice hornet]

I actually did the same

As soon as I saw alpha talents drop I opened them to see if they gave us banner

[tough bridge]

Hey all! Just confirming full conq gear is better than mixing in the pve tier set?

[green wharf]

you can turn the pvpe tier into pvp set, as they get 723 ilv

if the pve item already have that ilv or more you dont need it

[tough bridge]

Oh really? I don't really understand. Can you explain a bit more?

[warm plinth]

gear vendor sells an item that turns pve gear into max pvp ilvl

so if you have say tier set already in pve, you can just buy that item and apply it to your gear

[tough bridge]

Wow that's cool. But do you now lose the pve piece? I have been playing pve and wanted to get into some pvp. Been saving my conq and just wasn't sure what to spend it on

[fierce elm]

You dont lose it no

all it does is add pvp scaling to the item to scale to 723 in Pvp

[worldly oriole]

gearing is trash

I was full geared basically week 2 on dh

[tough bridge]

Ahhh ok interesting. Is the pve tier set converted to pvp good enough? Or are the conq pieces still better (talking about BIS I guess )

[fierce elm]

its the same ilvl

[elfin surge]

We use 4 set so yes pvp tier is bis

[tough bridge]

Ok thank you

So there's no reason to buy conq shoulder/chest/leg/hand if you have the pve pieces already

[lavish quest]

That was the lamest one

[lavish quest]

Max Myth track pve tier is the exact same as pvp tier in pvp. So you don't have to waste conq on those slots if you have max myth tier

Otherwise everything else should conq gear yes

[orchid badge]

26 minute blitz queue 🙁 depressed

[warm plinth]

pretty short

[wheat jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/905959827891712050/1423351994734870579/image.png?ex=68dfff58&is=68deadd8&hm=bae7e5c32996ea105973675953278509e701be2b1bf36e7b969b9774315f109a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=211&height=100

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/905959827891712050/1423352089907560559/image.png?ex=68dfff6e&is=68deadee&hm=0026a5500e7220742bd69f712312960f3e0267c5edb919fb0c7a753af8c4da8e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=236&height=103

aaaaaaaaand y'all ain't kicking shit anymore on new dh

hahahahaha

[fierce elm]

collapsing star is an aimed abilioty

with like a 4s casttime

dont worry

[wheat jay]

2.5s, not aimed

👍

casts on target, is aoe explosion

[boreal veldt]

Can stun/fear?

[wheat jay]

yes

cant kick

[fierce elm]

oh they changed it

[wheat jay]

??

are you confusing it with void ray?

[fierce elm]

No

Anyways

new spec so will be busted

as is tradition

[wheat jay]

https://youtu.be/tHkDJG0-mx4?si=qzbyCiMQYptX8dJX&t=413

there you go afro

this is how it works

[fierce elm]

I wont watch it

I don't care enough to watch it

[green wharf]

didnt they had a less edgy image for the thumbnail

[fierce elm]

I reckon I will face it 4 morbillion times on Midnight launch

[wheat jay]

no idea

you have it timestamped anyway afro

[wheat jay]

or more

[fierce elm]

I aint watching it

Gonna react once everything is done

so the week before launch

or sorry

the week when evertyhing launches, so a week into launch

or two weeks

[rustic quest]

I wonder if they will make it even more obnoxious to face than evoker

[wheat jay]

I doubt it

Seems to be similar to survi in terms of gameplay

So actual range/melee hybrid

[scarlet sorrel]

I just hope blizz balances it out in line with other specs

[wheat jay]

Bo

No

They won't

Expect everyrhing to be broken as fuck

Dh broken 100%

Survi most likely broken

[fierce elm]

BROKEN

BROKEN

STUFF BROKEN

[wheat jay]

Shut up afro

[spice hornet]

Does Artji even play warrior

[wheat jay]

Go away to your retlair

[fierce elm]

Artji is Artjiing rn

crazy

lmao

[spice hornet]

I think the last time he played warrior was shadowlands

[fierce elm]

It was

[wheat jay]

I mean

No?

[fierce elm]

smh

[wheat jay]

I have elite sets from this expansion

Last season too

[fierce elm]

that doesnt count as playing

smh

[spice hornet]

When are they making Artji a stormforged

[green wharf]

what you mean broken

all specs and classes always launched eprfectly balanced in every xpac

[wheat jay]

I mean, I'd argue my knowledge of pvp is vast and extensive

[fierce elm]

I have known Artji for long enough to see his reactions to literally every patch note since Shadowlands

[green wharf]

they only get broken later

[fierce elm]

and its always the same

thus

memeing about it

[wheat jay]

Namely i can call all of you shitters

Especially afro and kargish

Cuz i beat them in shuffle

[fierce elm]

w a s h e d

[wheat jay]

Ez

[fierce elm]

I gave you the one win

[wheat jay]

You didn't

[fierce elm]

smh

Gave you the win

[wheat jay]

I asked you to

And you didnt

[fierce elm]

My 100 game experience Ret versus Artji 40 year survival experience : (

[wheat jay]

That would have been my 2400 but you just had to fuxking go 1-5

[fierce elm]

: 3

[wheat jay]

Anyway, I beat you two

Thus im better

Ez

[green wharf]

math checks out

50 games ret should win over anything

[fierce elm]

: (

[wheat jay]

It was in df tho

[orchid badge]

a real warrior would ask for his class to be NERFED

[wheat jay]

Wait, was that before or after retpocalypse afro?

[fierce elm]

how is blitz going bestiality man

Way after

[wheat jay]

Or during?

[fierce elm]

s4 DF

I didn't play during retpocalypse 1.0

Only during this one 2.0

[wheat jay]

Fair

Lmao

Im enjoying survi being op as fuck for once xD

10 seasons of dogshit survi

And now its s tier

[orchid badge]

1991 as prot, 2050 as arms

[lunar grove]

Is 1800 solo shuffle easier on fury or arms

[wheat jay]

Easy as both

[fierce elm]

On the one you would like to play

[wheat jay]

Get 1300

Not above

[lunar grove]

What

[wheat jay]

And try to win next lobby

To get as much cr as possible

Up to like 1400 you'll get like 95cr per win

[lunar grove]

I already got 1800 on my destro

[wheat jay]

Above that its around 20

[lunar grove]

Warrior is so annoying lmao

[wheat jay]

So you can get 1300

Then do big 6-0

And its 1800 instant

[lunar grove]

Damn

Ill try that

For spec just one from murlok.io?

[wheat jay]

Yep

[real briar]

how the fuck do we even kill dev evokers??

[spice hornet]

you dont

[lunar grove]

you focus someone else

[sharp meteor]

theyre kind of like mages where if they only use mobility defensivlely you kind of dont

except dev also pressures harder when kited so

empowered abilities makes their next laser hit harder and split so have a kick or stun for that

stagger stuns/kicks in general on laser

and tab if you cant connect

[orchid badge]

in deepwind gorge. one person goes farm, one shrine, 2 mid... where do the rest go?

[sharp meteor]

i usually see healer and spec that needs healer go top

and duel specs goin bot

useless specs go mid like tanks and warriors

[real briar]

its fucken stupid how much losing streak im on today vs yesterday

every game hunters or locks

[fierce elm]

Just win

[copper fox]

Should I make fun of Santi or leave him alone until he figures fury warrior out

[sharp meteor]

fury is the thinking mans spec

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-damn-it-this-is-too-hard-too-hard-this-is-hard-gif-26564961

[warm plinth]

thinking of which 2 buttons to press

[orchid badge]

im winning 16 mmr and losing 23

thats nice

[real briar]

im just trying to get to 2100 for transmog and this game playing me .. i get 5/6 wins in solo and gets me to 2090 and then another game i got 3/3 win/loses and gives me 4 points and BAM lose lose lose

[lavish quest]

Brought to you by the cabal

[orchid badge]

its called EOMM

designed to make you keep playing for longer

[real briar]

https://tenor.com/view/antisocial-frogs-gif-2007582207275524303

[copper fox]

Weird way to spell cabal

[orchid badge]

blizzard has patents for that stuff

the DLC patent they did for their shooter game etc

[fierce elm]

g i t g u d

[wheat jay]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/a-first-look-at-some-midnight-season-1-tier-sets-more-to-come-378705?utm_source=discord-webhook

@fierce elm paladin chonky

[fierce elm]

goddamn the warrior set FUCKS

the paladin set also FUCKS

[wheat jay]

bro

dh

actually naughty

those horns man

wtf O_O

@fierce elm AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ROGUE

MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

THAT ROGUE SET

holy fuck

[exotic forge]

Yeah that warrior set fucks

We're a damn mammoth (figuratively, not literally, we're squishy as fuck)

[tough bridge]

Thank you!

[real briar]

ngl these horns are getting used way to much.. give us that warlock set

[green wharf]

Horns and spikes is what they know to do

Cant have anything else

[wheat jay]

dh horns hehe

[rose patrol]

you can get it in legion remix next week, its basically the same set

[real briar]

i would love to have the DH set or warlock set transmogs

[real briar]

about to spend HOURS on this fucken remix jsut for transmog as well lol

[raven crane]

Cant wait to slap that sat on my tauren

[orchid badge]

booo

mid

[copper fox]

@novel crater wellness check

[fierce elm]

@copper fox blitz check

[haughty jewel]

Blitz check Methyltren

[copper fox]

el oh el

I haven’t played lol

Still stuck at 2k BRUV

[novel crater]

Barely alive

Qed yesterday 1 lobby

I think i left it at 2600 something

[copper fox]

You broke 2600 tho about time

[novel crater]

Bro everytime i wanna q shuff i get dragged into 3s

I stg

#1stworldproblems

[copper fox]

I tried pushing 3s recently as well and it’s just non stop awc teams so I stopped

I’m like 2300 rn

Negative w/l last time I qd

[novel crater]

Its a couple weeks til grinding wins

[copper fox]

Yea

[novel crater]

U still on the throne? I haven’t check

I saw laros qing

Off stream too haha

People are gunning for u Flokk

[haughty jewel]

only person thats close is flokktuah

[novel crater]

But that guy sucks

[haughty jewel]

he ass

[novel crater]

I had Zozo on his ret and 2 hunters first shuff i qed…

Its so tragic

[copper fox]

Did you at least go 2-4

Ret warr surely beats 2x hunter

You probably lose everything else lmao depends on who the hunters are I guess

[novel crater]

Yea

Auto 6-0 for zozo

2 reg mid glad hunters with that insane proc… lol

He gets ret war into double hunter and cupid into kfc 4 rounds

Impossible to fuck up

[real briar]

LOL i was just in eye of the stomr and holy fuck i was grabbing flag and dropping at last second to give to healer and their evoker would grab me fly me to cap and wouldnt notice i dont have flag anymore and kept pushing me to cap lol

funniest shit seeing not happen just once.. but twice

[chilly pivot]

im looking for someone who can help me make a weakaura.
i can make the weakaura by my self but i need some help with the buffs/Debuffs i need to put into it, i wanna make an HAMSTRING icon showing if i can hamstring the target. becous i use hamstring to often without knowing if they are immune for that, it means i lose rage and a global for nothing = dps loss..
so i wanna know all the stuffs that make players immune to hamstring so i can make it into a weakaura ❤️

[boreal scarab]

hey guys anyone doing pvp i need to ask something real fast

i farmed 2500 conquest and got the weapon but tmog shows its red but when i equip it its blue why's that?

[tough bridge]

Does anyone have a BIS pvp list they can point me too?

[tribal wedge]

the red one is the elite, you unlock it with a 2100 CR in any bracket

[boreal scarab]

oh really...

sadge then...

i guess i will settle at 1800 lol

[cinder sluice]

Guys sorry to interrupt your wonderful discussion, However I would like to express my utter disappointment for the new Arms tree. Stay Strong

[spice hornet]

Blizzard would rather you not play arms

[hot solstice]

Doesnt matter if numbers are right

[cinder sluice]

Arms suffers at the defensive part and they making choice node Die by the Sword with ingore pain. Like wtf?

[wheat jay]

Cuz arms doesn't suffer defensively in pvp

It will in midnight

But it doesn't now

[cinder sluice]

Blizzard: We’ve also removed some of Arms’ modifiers to the next use of an ability, such as Martial Prowess, to make it less complex to determine the best rotational ability to use. Then they procced to add" Soften them up" Slam increases the damage of your next Mortal strike by 10% , stacking up 3 times. Isn't this a contradiction?

[cinder sluice]

From a theotatical PoV , there is your statement , hovever because of the meta defenisvely is weak.

[wheat jay]

???

What

Please rephrase that xD

[cinder sluice]

Which part exactly, sorry for my writing skill

[wheat jay]

This entire sentence xD

[tribal wedge]

i didn't understand either mate

[cinder sluice]

In theory, your statement is true. Arms doesnt suck defensively at pvp. Beacuse of the fast paced burst meta, it seems that defensively arms is weak

I hope it's better now

[wheat jay]

Arms is almost never a subject of that burst

Every single class in the game is better to attack than warrior

Parry is near immunity into any melee

Almost every caster stops attacking you too cuz its 30% wall, and you have def stance too

Spell reflect is strong af with dmg reduction

You have a heal so you're not fully at the mercy of your healer

And other classes are better to target because attacking them usually achieves more than attacking warrior

And ignore pain is just there, small absorb but better than nothing

[cinder sluice]

Unfortunately we will have to choose between DBTS and Ingore Pain at next expansion

[tribal wedge]

5 month of alpha and beta, they will change a lot of things before

[wheat jay]

You'll take dbts

Ignore pain is so minor you won't even notice not having it

[frank knoll]

Turns out it my PC can’t run Helldivers

I need an I7
I have an I5

[cinder sluice]

Tnh that's hopium for improving things.

[frank knoll]

I might check out that Elven Ring game

[wheat jay]

That's not even hopium, That's common sense

[cinder sluice]

Sometimes Ignore pain is my first "healing" done

[tribal wedge]

During DF alpha we got Blame and no IP bro

[wheat jay]

Now check how much does a single cast add

[tribal wedge]

things WILL change many times before midnight it's ok

[frank knoll]

Yeah Ignore pain kinda seems like pad tbh
It’s never saved ur life lol

[wheat jay]

It's fuckall

Of course its gonna be your #1 healing if there's nothing else

[frank knoll]

I remember when Fury had IP and u never pressed it

Cause it was 80 rage

[cinder sluice]

I actually use Impening Victory , I just keep Ingore pain on cd depening on the situation

[wheat jay]

Still, you won't even notice it in midnight

[frank knoll]

IP effected by dampening as well

[wheat jay]

Do any of you have some arenas and healing done?

To show it

[frank knoll]

Idk Bahjeera was pretty pissed
Do we get that Stormwall talent freed up?

The one that heals like 10% hp everytime you parry during dbts

[cinder sluice]

Gone

[cinder sluice]

On average Ignore pain is in third place in me , First is Fueled by violence then Impending victory

[wheat jay]

Okay, and how much is a single cast

[green wharf]

yes they are liars and/or stupid

i want wowhead to release the new telent tree stuff so we can try the builds

cause its gonna be dire to get all the stuff we need

[copper fox]

Pressing slam 3x then pressing MS isn’t complexity

[cinder sluice]

The Range of the amount of Ingore pain is 60k to 90k

[green wharf]

they argued that pressing X skill twice to bump MS was a problem

then do this slam

is like

????

[cinder sluice]

neither pressing two overpowers is complexity , lets be honest

[tribal wedge]

ngl, in any way, i'm not sure arms needed a "easier" rotation ahah

[wheat jay]

So thats nothing

[green wharf]

our 4 capstones are these, we cant have it all

the question mark is anger management

so its a must

so you will have to chose between a wall or spear

[copper fox]

Obviously but who cares they wanted to make slam worth something. OP will still exist as a button worth pressing

Right now slam is literally a useless ability

They want it to have value

And it’s a free to press button at all times

[cinder sluice]

In realistic scenarios , Ingore Pain can accumulate a good amount of absorb cause either not get damaged or a preist pressed PWS

[wheat jay]

Wasnt it 10s cd

[copper fox]

Imagine thinking IP saves you

[cinder sluice]

11 sec to be precise

[green wharf]

and by doing that they are taking the worthy of overpower

[wheat jay]

You're never getting ANY actual save from ignore pain, its small as hell, we only use it because there's nothing else to press and we're always at max rage

Never rage starved

[green wharf]

but slam and ms still cost alot of rage, so you still have to press OP anyway, who doesnt give any rage

[copper fox]

False

[wheat jay]

Losing it won't change shit

[green wharf]

they removed the skill that made overpower increase the MS damage

and gave to slam

[copper fox]

OP will still be a button worth pressing

Slam never was

Now sure slam > op

But op still needs to be pressed

Whereas slam doesn’t right now

[wheat jay]

You'll still press op wheneve you're low on rage

[cinder sluice]

It's true u don't get saved from IP but even a small absorb is better than nothing

[green wharf]

it just looks worse now, since no way you gonna use slam 3 times before a ms

[wheat jay]

60k, when you have 20mil hp?

Its not even 0.5% of your hp

Does fuckall

We only press it cuz there's nothing else to spend rage on

You won't notice the lack of it

You'll take dbts, and you'll have one free bind

[cinder sluice]

Maybe I worded it wrong , IP doesnt give on average 60k to 90k , Details show how much it absorved and that were my numbers

Total healing done from Ignore Pain is compable in scale with Impending Victory

[lavish quest]

@wheat jay I'm kind of a big deal now

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/slam-head-on-desk-orc-wow-orc-gif-25468332

[wheat jay]

Gamer

[real briar]

on the verge of writing a 3 page essay to blizz department and tell them how shit they are at balancing

[wheat jay]

You mean rn or midnight?

[real briar]

rn .. i keep getting fucken hunters in my arenas so its like hey have fun just running around doing NOTHIGN

[wheat jay]

2s?

[real briar]

yup

[wheat jay]

Well

Game is not balanced around 2s

Never has been

In 2s to have fun at high mmr you have to play meta

It is what it is

[real briar]

hutners are just broken ANYWHERE

[hot solstice]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cYlC3C28aI0

[wheat jay]

Yes

All about tuning

Rn its bm

[copper fox]

His face during that video

Is wild

[spice hornet]

[real briar]

hes 100% on drugs .. pure black eyes

[hot solstice]

looked like his lower jaw dislocated when saying "godzilla''

[lethal orchid]

ret players man

only 2 lost rounds are the ones when he was on my team

[lavish quest]

It's 1600, on the brightside, the ret isn't yet playing the game

His monitor, likely still off

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/kek-kekw-gif-19460731

[lethal orchid]

100%

he was just pressing w and running it down

[lavish quest]

Also #buffret

[lethal orchid]

he'd mount into heroic leap on first second of the arena if he was a warr i'm so sure

[lethal orchid]

ive been stuck in this rating for a week now

going up and down between 1600 and 1750

[lavish quest]

So what you're gonna do is, go in, do big dam

[lethal orchid]

cant climb to 1800 man

[lavish quest]

And you'll climb

[green wharf]

that or try with a new war with a clean mmr

[lethal orchid]

thing is i have trouble indentifying my win condition

[lavish quest]

Big damage

[lethal orchid]

maybe im overthinking it

[lavish quest]

Just slam dam

[lethal orchid]

u just all in at the beginning?

i usually open w spear and i buff up into bladestorm on the dps i identify as the weakest

but maybe thats not the thing to do

[lavish quest]

Maybe throw out a stun or fear first but just bust your load right away like she's been edging you for hours now

[green wharf]

talent tree is up on wowhead

[lethal orchid]

yeah i throw storm bolt at enemy healer before popping cds on the speared person

[green wharf]

man, why bliz want auto attack to be a thing

can we get even more boring

[copper fox]

Sounds like you lose a shit ton of spear value then

[lethal orchid]

maybe im using spear poorly then

how should i use it?

[green wharf]

pvp talents

fury

[boreal veldt]

ugh

[novel crater]

@copper fox even just woken up from a nap

better start qing

😛

[copper fox]

Did this guy just @ me outside of the top 10

Lmfao

[novel crater]

LMAO

had a 6 hr nap into a sleepy 4-2

[copper fox]

you mean fresh out a nap

[novel crater]

yep

[urban skiff]

what is that 100/100?

[novel crater]

Legend

[urban skiff]

You're good enough as you are

you don't need to push yourself further

[urban skiff]

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-calc

[violet fossil]

@green wharf https://youtube.com/shorts/PkErU61_fek?si=xH6vJ2XDszXA40CP

I don’t wanna hear nothing about no fury warrior this or that

[boreal veldt]

man im a die hard arms boi but when fury just has everything in the arms toolkit but better i'm kinda annoyed lol

they even have a class fantasy ability like kill or be killed

arms gets cleave

[urban skiff]

should also enrage for the full duration

nothing less

[orchid badge]

Sad

[urban skiff]

new SMF thane looking amazing

[midnight cloud]

Hi fellow PvP warriors, I’m swarmed with work and unsure if I still have enough time to get 2100.

Would anyone know how long more do we have for this season? I’m trying to plan my time to see if i can still squeeze enough game time. Thank u!

[urban skiff]

season not even halfway through

[midnight cloud]

Ohhh that is comforting

Gosh I thought it was like ending cos I saw the whole midnight thing, turbo boost and then legion remix

I guess I got confused and had the false impression

[fierce elm]

Conquest isn't uncapped yet

so a fuckton of time

[midnight cloud]

Thank you so much @Zercher!

[midnight cloud]

Thank you, Afro!!

[fierce elm]

Midnight is in the alpha state

[urban skiff]

I love how you give the saem response but I get a significantly more enthusiastic thank you message

[fierce elm]

Legion Remix+turbo boost is part of this season

[urban skiff]

It's like I'm the favorite in here

[fierce elm]

You typed first

nerd

[urban skiff]

you had time to copy and improve but didn't

[midnight cloud]

Cos I was only able to squeeze about 10 games a week so far, hence was concern

[midnight cloud]

I see

[fierce elm]

you are good brother bear

[urban skiff]

fuck I love this transmog so much

i should play my warrior mor

more

[midnight cloud]

Thank you both! Please have a blessed day

[urban skiff]

OH MY GOD IT'S A PALADIN

HE BLESSED US

[fierce elm]

Checked out the Paladin tree earlier

its looking better than what I thought

[urban skiff]

As amazing as enhancement?

because it looks like we'll be fucking cooking

[fierce elm]

I cant tell that yet

The only weird thing is losing Hammer of wrath

[urban skiff]

Know how during ascendance our stormstrikes consume MSW to automatically cast spenders?

[fierce elm]

and them baking it together with judgment

but then giving us crusader strike/templar strikes back so we don't generate Holy power on autoattacks naymore

[urban skiff]

That talent has been improved to have the same behavior during doomwinds. So every minute we're going to be an absolute menace

[fierce elm]

its weird

[urban skiff]

also not just stormstrikes anymore, but also crash lightniing

[fierce elm]

But ya, I thought we would be forced into divine storm stuff

but we can just avoid that entirely

Its gonna be INTERESTNG

[urban skiff]

Let's say I want to simulate the UI/addon changes before we get to Midnight, what would be the most significant thing to focus on? I'll disable anything omnibar related and run stock arena frames.

I feel like there was a preview on what they were going to add as native parts of the UI but can't seem to find the thing I think I remember.

Combat text also has to be baseline now, I bet. But I'm already using that

[fierce elm]

Pretty sure 11.2.5 introduces a ton of the things they want to implement natively

[urban skiff]

that's the one we're getting in a few days?

[fierce elm]

21st I think

I could be wrong there

[fierce elm]

oh shit lmfao

[urban skiff]

but there's something the 21st, you're right about that. What was it?

[fierce elm]

oh fuck remix too

goddamn

[urban skiff]

Vampire the Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 releases that day

[fierce elm]

rip free time

[urban skiff]

these sets will finally let me do some more plate mogs for my rogue/shaman

[urban skiff]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/the-war-within/patch-11-2-5-legion-remix-overview

looks like there's a list I can follow

[fierce elm]

ya the cooldown manager thing

actually becomes functional

[urban skiff]

tbh it already is, with the right addons you can edit it

That's what I did

Hekili will completely shut down with Midnight release, they announced

I'm in despair over that, since I use Hekili to have a dynamic action bar for my rotation.

Wasn't easy to set up either

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[urban skiff]

unfortunately I didn't record

short games, lost first round because i walked over a freezing trap the hunter dropped for no discernable reason in the most random spot possible

[orchid badge]

Literally me

[urban skiff]

literally?

[raw summit]

since you might actually be able to swap gear now between slayer and colossus - in what lobbies do you guys feel like colo is better

[fierce elm]

where you can cleave

and hit demolish

[raw summit]

but crit remains kinda iffy even on colo right?

you just use the tiny bit you get from tier I suppose

[fierce elm]

yes

[raw summit]

and then skip helmet?

[fierce elm]

yes

[raw summit]

i did try thane but that shit feels fake asf on fury

[fierce elm]

Because it is

[raw summit]

great - played like shit anyways

[wheat jay]

thane is wack

i liked it at first

but then everything else was more fun lmao

[raw summit]

idk you just have more of a shit filler

[wheat jay]

you only replace ww with thunder clap

but i dunno

it fits prot

but fury, nah

fury = fire

arms = blood

prot = lightning

[raw summit]

yee

[wheat jay]

where is fire for fury O_O

meanwhile survi, losing all the predator jungle vibe

but its going full rambo/terminator xD

[urban skiff]

Odyn's Fury

until they changed it

[wheat jay]

🙁

[raw summit]

is dual wield SV not mega pog?

[wheat jay]

depends

so

there are some talents that increase attack speed

and said attacks reduce cd of bomb

[raw summit]

sounds neat for pve

idk how thatll be in arena

[green anchor]

pve is just wildfire bomb

yep

got dps mogged by a sv last night in Priory

[urban skiff]

it's meh

gonna look even more stupid throwing bombs with a weapon in your hand

[raw summit]

i forget if it was axe/mace only

cuz thunderfury hunter would be fun

[urban skiff]

it's not sword?

pretty sure it's sword

and no mace

[raw summit]

idk

[wheat jay]

it has sword too

DAGGERS TOO

150% attack speed, 0.5s cd reduction of bomb per attack

INFINITE BOMBS

[urban skiff]

barely 50% winrate is so bad

[orchid badge]

Mfer gets 380 rating for a game

[raw summit]

thats how mmr works no

[urban skiff]

I could get more if these guys could play enhancement as well as me

dream lobby by the way

[bright kraken]

how do you win blitz

[fierce elm]

by winning

[chilly pivot]

im looking for someone who can help me make a weakaura.
i can make the weakaura by my self but i need some help with the buffs/Debuffs i need to put into it, i wanna make an HAMSTRING icon showing if i can hamstring the target. becous i use hamstring to often without knowing if they are immune for that, it means i lose rage and a global for nothing = dps loss..
so i wanna know all the stuffs that make players immune to hamstring so i can make it into a weakaura ❤️

[raw summit]

like freedom, bubble, tigers lust n shit?

[chilly pivot]

Ye everything

Warlocks are immune to hamstring after port i think, so i need to track all this shit but i dont know exactly what everything is

[urban skiff]

Midnight season 1 warrior set:

I assume it's the elite one

[raw summit]

ig thats ait

[urban skiff]

No

that looks amazing

gonna look so brutal on KTHUMAN

[urban skiff]

YES????

I will make when i get home

[raw summit]

allat for the last ssn of the expansion 😔

rip weakauras

goat addon

[cosmic field]

think this is actually the best set. Rogues looks like levelling gear

[fierce elm]

uhm hello PALADIN

Warlock is pretty sick too

[cosmic field]

yh the red and black pal set is pretty good

[fierce elm]

Also

MAYBE UPDATED CHARGER HELLO

[urban skiff]

Rogue set this season don't look too good either

[tribal wedge]

the paladin one look simple, but great

[cosmic field]

yeah they're so bland 🙁

[obtuse knot]

Too similar to TWW Season 1.

[twilit canopy]

thats fire

[obtuse knot]

Paladins keep winning.

[forest trellis]

Belfs get a new charger too.

Aside from shoulder plates both sets can as well be typical dungeon sets.

[green wharf]

Seems like is the normal tier set

[jovial torrent]

i wonder if with single shoulder mog enabled we can make both sides of the shoulder the face one

[green anchor]

afaik you can't do that right now

[green wharf]

the face one?

[jovial torrent]

u can tho? i do that with the dwarf trading post armour, i have both sides as the crystal

pala left shoulder has a face on it

[green anchor]

that's odd

can't have two Tusks shoulders be the one with the skull 😂

[jovial torrent]

wonder if its just a thing for the trading post set and it randomly comes with both types of shoulders when u unlock it

[green anchor]

yes

[wheat jay]

Tbh

Tusk items are goated

That set is 10/10

[green wharf]

7/10

if had better colors

it would be 10

[wheat jay]

Red goated

And the orange one id say looks great

[green wharf]

the black is too light on that one

cant mix with the old elites

[wheat jay]

Ngl

Full set is the best here

Legit

Blizz outdid themselves with those sets

Amazing

Except rogue hahahaha fuck rogues

I still need to see hunter armor

[green wharf]

it should look good

seeing the icons

[cosmic field]

well if tww s3 is anything to go by hunters will also suffer

[green wharf]

it will look like this

some aligator stuff

[cosmic field]

thats cool actually

[fierce elm]

The icons are cool

[cosmic field]

know what, im actually kinda hype for midnight pvp

not sure about the cc changes still

[wheat jay]

Ok thats amazing

I need to prepare myself for biggest shoulfers in the game on orc tho

Cuz 100% those will be massive

[lyric wind]

for those rocking arms slayer in rbgs, please share your stat distributions. here's mine

[fierce elm]

jesus fuck where is your haste man

[wheat jay]

He casts 10 abilities per battleground

But they oneshot

[orchid badge]

@lyric wind

for blitz

is there a way to find an RBG team these days? EU btw

[fierce elm]

Its a pretty dead bracket

going to ask you the obvious, why?

[orchid badge]

well blitz feels very random at times. i used to lead RBGs and its fun to have a fixed team

and i enjoy BGs more than arenas

[lavish quest]

Have you asked in that guild of yours?

Or they busy with other activities?

[orchid badge]

im the only member

[green wharf]

[lyric wind]

what are your ring stats? mine's vers mast

actually all my jewelry's vers mast

[fierce elm]

Get your haste up öan

man

[orchid badge]

so haste reduces GCD?

doesnt say ingame

[lavish quest]

Well it do

[lyric wind]

are you full 723 set gear

[orchid badge]

almost

[lyric wind]

is this ok now?

[orchid badge]

how did you change stats so quickly..

[lyric wind]

recraft, change gems, enchants

[orchid badge]

i just look at armory pages to see what they use

the highest rating warriors

[green wharf]

Just got in a skirmish with a fucking druid tank and a aug evoker

what a miserable experience

[orchid badge]

skirmish

[green wharf]

there is a metaquest this week

[orchid badge]

why did someone write "tank defend cart" at the start of deephaul?

im supposed to take cart solo?

[fierce elm]

Hard to kill

disruptive

doesnt provide much in a huge team fight

[orchid badge]

but what is the rest of my team doing?

[fierce elm]

Fighting for crystal

and disrupting their cart

sneaking a cart

etc etc

[orchid badge]

this is what i mean when i say these new bgs dont make any sense

[fierce elm]

I just explained it

wdym

[orchid badge]

what should i do if 2 ppl take my cart?

[fierce elm]

What the fuck man

YOU TELL YOUR TEAM

and they can walk over

and help you

[orchid badge]

ok ill try it

but ppl dont read chat in combat

[fierce elm]

What do you do when 8 people come to your base that you are solo defending lmao

[fickle forge]

What do I do if the bully takes my lunch money?

[green wharf]

kick him in the nuts

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-the-power-of-god-and-anime-on-my-side-attack-gif-1916296513622050090

[orchid badge]

give me an option to play only the old bGs

[fierce elm]

Or just learn lmao

[orchid badge]

why does ruffius say "welcome to the deephaul ravine, friends" 5 times in 1 match?

[copper fox]

Lmfao

Watching all these people using gladiator losa is so funny. What will they do without the sweet whispers of cooldown usage in their ears

Idk how people use that

[fickle forge]

It's over for Seifcham

[copper fox]

Yea seif is fkd

Midnight Duelist Seifcham

@fierce elm btw

You see midnight s1 title

[fierce elm]

What was it

[copper fox]

Astral Warlord is a thing of the past. GALACTIC WARLORD is literally the most insane combo that wow has ever put into existence

Galactic

[fierce elm]

Alright r1 ret inc midnighr s1

[copper fox]

Same

[fierce elm]

Galactic Legend Vulgoré would go hard

[copper fox]

If I don’t get r1 bgb I quit wow

[fickle forge]

Galactic Legend hits harder

[fierce elm]

like absurdly hard

[copper fox]

Honestly galactic just hits hard in general

[fierce elm]

The only addon I will miss is my healer CC weakaura lmao

[copper fox]

Yea same tbh

[fierce elm]

but man Galactic Legend Vulgoré

MAAAN

[fickle forge]

Galactic Legend > Galactic Warlord > Galactic Gladiator

[elfin surge]

what lol

[fierce elm]

yes

hello

[wheat jay]

and gladiator is the only one worth something xD

[elfin surge]

do we know what addons will be banned from arena or is it all

[fickle forge]

Gladiator mount is such a babe

[elfin surge]

"combat" addons i mean

[fierce elm]

Safe to assume all lmao

[elfin surge]

Bigdebuffs

[fickle forge]

Eyes brother

[elfin surge]

Yeah let me look at my healer to check if hes kicked or not oh wait that has jo visual indication

[fickle forge]

Words brother

🗣️

[elfin surge]

Yeah let me get in call with my shuffle healer

[cosmic field]

they are adding tts to their built in weakaura thingy

not sure if you'll be able to track debuffs with it

[wheat jay]

all will eb out

[orchid badge]

now what?

[fierce elm]

Then you fight for crystal

[cosmic field]

spin crystal

[fierce elm]

are you

okay?

Like, if you encounter a change irl do you ask everyone around you

If someone tells you that the cookies are in aisle 8 and they are in aisle 9 are you just confused

[fickle forge]

I was told to go tie my shoes, but my shoes have no shoelaces. How do I put them on?

[green anchor]

guy has Grand Marshal but asks day 1 pvper questions

[elfin surge]

I miss torghast

[fickle forge]

Demod this guy

[green wharf]

i once saw a stream that a guy played with a warlock, a addon said every shit that happened

[elfin surge]

I miss korthia

[raw summit]

they need an addon that announces every single tick of damage you take as TTS

"corruption onehundredfourtythousandsixhundredthrityeight"

every single tick

[green wharf]

it was stuff like saying when the ret had his burst and stun up

when the enemy used avatar

stuff like that

[elfin surge]

gg

[fickle forge]

Correct this mistake with a stream

[orchid badge]

we lost, appearantly my team was chilling mid

i wasnt paying attention

[rancid walrus]

When u guys use onslaught in pvp ? U insert this in your rota or you press it at a special moment ?

[copper fox]

Just turn on Rios stream

It’s robotic

[green wharf]

torghast walked so delves could fly

but i would rather have torrghast as solo play

no fucking brann to piss me off

[copper fox]

Use it on CD

[fierce elm]

never

dont use it

trust

[copper fox]

Rampage > OS > exe > RB > BT

Not a rotation

Priorities

[rancid walrus]

Ok thanks!

[copper fox]

[fickle forge]

I will ban Afro now

[orchid badge]

im switching back to arms for blitz

[fierce elm]

the hell

[orchid badge]

prot is too unreliable

[fickle forge]

Idk why you decide prot was it for stability

I thought it was a meme commit

[orchid badge]

well its very fun on FC maps

theres just too many dps race maps

[fickle forge]

Almost like dps is the main role

[orchid badge]

almost like dps is a pve thing

stand in the circle on the ground and do your dps rotation

[fickle forge]

Brother has it completely backwards if he thinks his hold aggro role is the main character in PvP

[orchid badge]

im sure theres another reason why more ppl play MOP pvp

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

There is nobody there either lmao

[frank knoll]

If you have more gems socketed does it proc your embellishment more?

[fierce elm]

no

[copper fox]

?

Mop is dead lol

The mop pvp discord has 4 people that talk. The ladder top 300 is a total of 20 people and their alts

The mop 3v3 tournament had like no teams yesterday

And the same people at the top won easily again

[wheat jay]

noone playing mop cuz mop pvp was ass

lmao

[copper fox]

Yes

[wheat jay]

like, ppl had some dumb ass nostalgia

when pvp there was terrible

[copper fox]

2 hours for 10 2s games to cap conq btw

[orchid badge]

i wont be arguing

if wow fell off or not

it had 14 million players 😄

[fierce elm]

10 years ago lmao

[wheat jay]

and this expansion it had 7mil characters doing m+

this season actually

first week

so

ye

still millions playing it

[copper fox]

Game still has the most players that exist in any mmo pvp game

Unbeaten

Unbeatable

People been saying it fell off then why you all still bad

Ez game right

[spice hornet]

Holy shit

[green wharf]

but arms was great

[copper fox]

So was frost mage

Made warrior hard to play. There’s only 2 good mages playing classic tho so the warriors are lucky