pvp

[fast basalt]

what should i convert?

[fierce elm]

Then do like they are doing it

[modest marten]

i’m not really too sure why they’re doing so much to avoid reworking nether flux

i’m using 3pc bc the set chest is just better than crit vers bloody token chest

im going 2 set when i can get conquest chest

[fast basalt]

@fierce elm yeah i am planning on doing the 4set, but i do not know which to pick, because their offpieces are different

[fierce elm]

Well, you can't really 'pick'

[fast basalt]

im going down further its not just the top 2, most of the top slayers are using 4pc

[fierce elm]

because we dont have 4 catalyst charges yet

[fast basalt]

i pve too

[fierce elm]

they are picking based on what they have gotten from vault

yeah

[fast basalt]

i could pick any

[modest marten]

chest gloves and helm are all pretty miserable but gloves seem like the worst

[fierce elm]

what do you have in PvE ways

base it on that

[fast basalt]

5pc heroic tier

thats what i mean haha

[fierce elm]

Tehn its pretty simple

[fast basalt]

so im trying to work out what is the best 4

[fierce elm]

you are coinflipping either gloves or chest

[fast basalt]

ait, thankyou very much for that

[modest marten]

between nuking the pvp modifier and putting crit everywhere blizz probably just doesn’t want us to use it and if we can it wasn’t intended

[fast basalt]

my tier legs are mythic as well so thats a bonus

[worldly oriole]

Bliss did a good job this time with the balance

[earnest thorn]

Yes my 6mil mortal strikes needed to be 4% stronger in a meta headed for dampening

[obtuse oar]

Would I be right in thinking that it's often a good choice to focus healer if it's you and another melee?

[quaint osprey]

6m hp in a bg

3 of them in my team

enemy team full honor gear at least

our heal has DF pvp gear

[fierce elm]

depends

[obtuse oar]

Sure you'll be fine

[quaint osprey]

yeah was a close game

1500 to 120

[obtuse oar]

The only way is up

[fierce elm]

It's a random BG

[quaint osprey]

wdym

[fierce elm]

It is what it is lmao

[quaint osprey]

yeah its a random bg but that stuff just should be illegal like

[rancid granite]

thats what random bgs are for

[quaint osprey]

i blame blizzard for hiding the entry level pvp gear behind crafting orders

with the green heraldys

[fierce elm]

Ya boy also needs honor gear

on a new toon

You also need to get one honor on a character before you can transfer to it

this is what BGs are for

[quaint osprey]

but you get no honor when you lose every game

[fierce elm]

You get some honor

[rancid granite]

sounds like a Mynze issue

[fierce elm]

and I aint trying to farm crates

[quaint osprey]

you cant justify people going into bgs with dragonflight gear

no shot

[fierce elm]

It scales up

to like 660 or something

[rancid granite]

im too busy winnin to notice my nor anyone elses gear anyway

[fierce elm]

Im to busy SHUFFLIN

My DK is rising

[obtuse oar]

I can't wait to get it over and done with on this Warrior

did FDK in no time at all last season

And Ret this season

Shame the M+ dungeons just don't do it for me

and feel like pushing is pointless until boost

[fierce elm]

Fun

heard of that

fun

[lavish quest]

Are we really gatekeeping random BGs now?
Is that where we are as a society?

[obtuse oar]

I've recently discovered Whirling Surge murder, so there's that

[fierce elm]

Tbf I just picked up raiding this season

and started doing m+ for further than just 2k and stop lmao

[obtuse oar]

I got CE last season after deciding to pick it up super late. Pushing properly for the first time this season. Fractillus tomorrow. But, PvP really has got me in a stranglehold

For many Reasons, much easier as Ret lol

[fierce elm]

I just do stuff that is fun

[lavish quest]

This would only matter if you're going for title

[obtuse oar]

Fun go brr

[fierce elm]

Get 3k in m+ then drop that too

got curve so kinda wanna drop raid too lmfao

[lavish quest]

And if you're going for title, you're a try hard nerd living in M+ anyways

[fierce elm]

need 60 rounds on ret for Legend

[south kestrel]

It is also harder at the start of the season tbh, more glads around pushing early

[fierce elm]

Need to get strategist

[fierce elm]

It's not the same as in SS

[obtuse oar]

Moreso I know that I'll get a huge thing of power and enthusiasm down the line. I got bored after an early 3k push last season, then went tunnel vision for a bit, got 3.4k and then beaten by queue boss

[south kestrel]

Im doing pvp this season for the 1950 enchant

[fierce elm]

Most people in SS are sitting quite high already

those that belong there

[lavish quest]

Tbf, I get 3k then stop really

[obtuse oar]

Yeah, I think I underestimated the value of me actually knowing how to play Ret in week 2 of the season

[lavish quest]

And don't need turbo boost for 3k

[fierce elm]

the likelyhood of you facing someone at 1800-2k that is really good at the game is very low

Unless you are facing my shitty uhdk rn

[south kestrel]

Yeah my mmr is hovering 1850 in SS… need 1950 but every lobby ive had is mage sham ret and Im getting my shit pushed in lmao

[fierce elm]

It would be alts that one would face at this time

Such as me

[obtuse oar]

Yeah, that's the thing. I got 2.9k in week 1 or 2, decided to do the Elite set...And kinda lost the enthusiasm. I'll dip back in for 3k when doing my weeklies, and then just wait until I want to push. Realising doing what's fun makes the game...fun

[fierce elm]

or Karanze alting his Enhance rn

[copper fox]

Just afk until Tuesday

[fierce elm]

or Methyltren pushing his 8 different warriors

so the cabal can't get him

[copper fox]

Idk what you mean

[south kestrel]

we reckon arms takes over on tues with the buff or

[fierce elm]

; )

[lavish quest]

I'm 2.6k. But I've been on vacation for the last 10 days tbf

[fierce elm]

yes

[lavish quest]

Returning today, then work week begins tomorrow

So really I start playing again Thursday or some shiz

[fierce elm]

I need motivation for the last 150 in m+

lmao

[south kestrel]

Guess Ill stick playing arms for now then and get used to it again

[fierce elm]

Bricked a 13 dawn because of a bug

Bricked another 13 dawn because of a bug

[south kestrel]

dawn is such a cooked dungeon

[lavish quest]

Don't be a bitch?

[copper fox]

Was the bug just you sucking

[fierce elm]

Naa

Actual bug lmao

[lavish quest]

That enough motivation?

[fierce elm]

The Mage got disconnected on the mount part

and couldn't get down from the ship lmao

[obtuse oar]

Dawn is bugged beyond belief and Halls is overtuned to hell

So, eww

[fierce elm]

The other dawn broke because our tank fell through the fucking ship on the first boss lmfao

[lavish quest]

Imagine needing 5 people to time a 13 dawn

Omegalul

[fierce elm]

We needed 5 people

[south kestrel]

Too much trash

[fierce elm]

Kargish does no damage

but ya

Lost it after that kek

Gonna kms

[obtuse oar]

Halls feels like early S2 Brew - just overtuned and too easy to go to shit. There's a trillion super important casts going off at once, and the timer is so brutal that you need massive pulls

That said, bricking a 13 Dawn sans bugs is something else

Dawn's biggest issue is being obscenely boring

[lavish quest]

@fickle forge is this propaganda again?

[south kestrel]

Yeah the caster timings are insanely quick

Its dumb

[fierce elm]

Kargish does no damage

tbf I have a ton of free dungeons to 12 lmfao

and 13

[south kestrel]

Gambit is mega free

[obtuse oar]

Gambit and Ara are mega free

🤝

[fierce elm]

I have ran 2 Ara-karas in total

and 2 Gambits in total

lmao

[south kestrel]

Have found ara to actually be quite tough higher than 14

[obtuse oar]

The only thing I find hard about Ara is that I missed S1, so I often get stuck in the goop and forget I'm not meant to freedom

[fierce elm]

Streets probs an easy 13 too

[lavish quest]

Just bubble the suck

[fierce elm]

Getting the HoA 13 felt great

fuck that dungeon

Priory is at least a quick brick if we fuck up

[obtuse oar]

Gambit is probably my favourite key this season

Alongside PSF

[fierce elm]

Ara-kara also quick brick if fucked up due to first boss being the only scary part

[obtuse oar]

I love those two keys

[fierce elm]

We would have timed a 13 gambit that I pugged

[obtuse oar]

I just don't like tanks doing a million pulls pre first boss

[fierce elm]

but our dps/healer decided to brick the key on last boss by not dodging stuff

[obtuse oar]

and then wanting to lust a boss with no up time

[lavish quest]

As a tank. I hate the first pull of Ara so fuckin much

[copper fox]

Why? Just press your scripted buttons for the scripted abilities of the enemies

[fierce elm]

ITS OKAY

[lavish quest]

I need to just start doing the first part in 2 pulls and tell people to suck my big tank balls when they bitch

[fierce elm]

WE WILL GET IT IN THE END

the season is gonna be 8 months anyways

[lavish quest]

Script my nutz

[obtuse oar]

I can tolerate two. I can't tolerate 4

[fierce elm]

the timer is so lenient that you can do that anyways

[copper fox]

Daily reminder I farm santi with duelists while he’s on the meta of meta comps (mw ret warr)

[fierce elm]

lmfao

Santi rerolling is CRAZY

[lavish quest]

Pvpers complain about pve being scripted content. But then always describe pvp as following the script

[lavish quest]

There's no reason to do more than 2 tbh. If so, your tank is just depresso

[copper fox]

TRADE CDS AND CROSS CC HEALER

[lavish quest]

Everyone wants to big pull it. But then not to let me gather it.

[copper fox]

Down bad

[obtuse oar]

I can appreciate why tanks want to do 2. I'd prefer one, but I can bubble and pad. I'd do 2 if I tanked

[lavish quest]

Hot take. Remove casters and cc from pvp. Just make pvp about doing big numbas in a melee fuckpit.
Biggest numbas win

[lavish quest]

I can do it in 1, especially now that I'm trying prot pala. But if dps press buttons or healer presses a heal, it fucks it all up.

And they always press a fuckin button

I almost exclusively pug for context btw

Still no 4 set so my dmg is still shit :(

Not that I know how to play lightsmith anyways

[obtuse oar]

Oh yeah, love it when people generate threat during a gather

[fierce elm]

I am getting mad love from these ret players

by telling them how to play

Nicefro

[scarlet barn]

Alwaysgoodfro

[fierce elm]

Gotta teach them how to terrorize SS ladder

[copper fox]

You need to be able to do this yourself first

What’re you like rank 20 by now

[fierce elm]

Oh my god shut up

The ladder is STUCK

I havent played my ret in what, 2 weeks?

1 week?

Im still top 13 lmfao

[urban bison]

So just got conq/honor/bloody coin capped and wondering what is the order i should spend my currency on? I got 4pc hero tier set so im guessing at least 2 pieces of that? or should i go for all 4?

[fierce elm]

What spec

is the first question

and what hero talents are you planning on playing

Easiest is to figure out where your bloody tokens are going, which is head+bracers+belt+boots most likely

You are gonna craft rings+neck on either spec

You are at minimum going legs+shoulders for tier

[urban bison]

Arms

and slayer

[fierce elm]

Some are going 4 set

some arent

if you are gonna go 4 st its shoulders+legs+chest+gloves tbh

[sharp meteor]

so in general crit is bad and bloody token pieces are 3 ilev below conq

[lavish quest]

Afro is washed now and he thinks fotm rerolling will fix it

[sharp meteor]

we'll usaully go like bracers, belt, cloak (no cloak this season)

and also have helm and shoulders as option as haste and mastery

chest boot and gloves bad cos crit

leggies and shoulders good stats and every spec plays at least 2 peace

so

[fierce elm]

Kennie just repeating my words

smh

[fickle forge]

Yes it is

Unless he's talking about my 680 ilvl feral

[urban bison]

@fierce elm @sharp meteor should I aim for 4pc? Or just 2 for now?

[sharp meteor]

Slayer 4pc doesn't look enticing to me.

It might be fine. Colo 4pc as arms looks good.

Imo just 2pc rn

legs/shoulders.

[urban bison]

kk, so jkust get the 2pc leg/shoulders for now?

you think colo is in a better spot than slayer? Havent even started arena this season yet haha

[sharp meteor]

Then can just grab mastery conq gloves and either chest to potentially convert later if 4pc is really good

[fierce elm]

I would try both out

[sharp meteor]

and not sure, just keeping options open

can't brick your char too hard realistically but its nice to be able to like

[urban bison]

true!

[sharp meteor]

swap into 4pc asap if its giga

early-mid seas is kind of testing period anyways when tuning is still being done

[urban bison]

for trinkets should i just go with the honor ones for starting?

[fierce elm]

Yes

We have not replaced those yet

[urban bison]

ok cool, and then stat prior is mastery -> haste?

for crafting?

er io mean vers -> mast

[fierce elm]

Yes

Or vers haste

depending on your stats rn

[urban bison]

kk! which trinket do you like - on use or passive?

ty for the help btw

[fierce elm]

Passive

[sharp meteor]

Just insignia medallion ye

honor badge is playable but 60s cd doesn't really align with any warrior stuff

conq badge is crit which is double 🚫

[copper fox]

Guys arms is better because of 4% now so everyone who’s been stuck at 1700 can now easily be 2400 with the press of a single button (MS)

[obtuse oar]

Good news. I'll just take that at face value

[urban skiff]

How did you know i was stuck at 1473?

Did kennie tell you?

[lavish quest]

Show big dam

[spice hornet]

[lavish quest]

Phew, I really needed this

[rancid granite]

it's just gonna lead to an inevitable demolish nerf while images and mm's and paladins hitting 20mil crits

[lavish quest]

That's fine, fuck Colo lul

[rancid granite]

coolest spec 😔

[lavish quest]

For prot in M+, sure

[copper fox]

So true

[rancid granite]

hitting the 8m black arrows isn't as fun since it's from so far away but doing it as col is just up close and personal

https://tenor.com/view/activation-neutron-think-brain-monkey-gif-1683241036589818476

[lavish quest]

Demo can deal damage in pvp? That's cool, didn't know

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/conan-power-nofear-gif-7357013

me after getting some like 15m Combo crit

dunking on these arcane mages

[copper fox]

LOL good meme

Demo landing on an arcane mage is the best meme of 2025 so far

Was he afk?

[fierce elm]

I am catching up to tonypajamas

[rancid granite]

it's a skill check ok

you can connect to them for like 2 seconds

[fierce elm]

I need to hit 2.1 in 100 rounds on my DK

[rancid granite]

so gotta make it count

[copper fox]

????

I would hope so

[fierce elm]

No I have 100 rounds left

[copper fox]

Best melee in the game

[fierce elm]

The early UHDK stuff was rough

lmao

[obtuse oar]

Is Range always going to be the focus target if the opponent has one?

[fierce elm]

It was rough

lmao

[fierce elm]

depends

[hearty basalt]

is going prot warrior a good idea for pvp?

[fierce elm]

If you like blitz sure

[obtuse oar]

Do you have a recommended resource to dive into? I am definitely missing a lot for Warrior, but don't wanna be asking easy to google questions

[fierce elm]

Honestly idk if any resources exist for that question tbh

its a thing you get from experience but it depends on so many factors

in general it is that way

[obtuse oar]

Thanks. Probably just need to stop looking for 'secret tech' and start being not shit

[rancid granite]

you can do both lol

[urban bison]

woah you can get 2 two handed swords when you hit 2500 conq? Someone mentioned that - how does that work? Thats nuts

[lavish quest]

Usually yes, but some ranged are a waste of time to go after

You're a war, playing worst class in the game? Chasing an Arcane mage? Gl bruther

[obtuse oar]

Right, is that because it's just gonna teleport non stop

So I'd be wasting my time?

[lavish quest]

Use tokens, buy weapons

[lavish quest]

Sometimes you can hit em, but you will at best have a small window to do so, then you might as well swap

[obtuse oar]

Cheers

Makes sense

[lavish quest]

Because war has fury, 2h cost 1 token per, instead of 2 like it would for say a paladin

[obtuse oar]

Feel like people in SS will pick one target and refuse to go away from that

and I don't have the toolkit (or more likely ability) to change the game with much influence

[lavish quest]

Well with no coord, you kinda gotta play like that

But once you start to climb, you, and your partners, will be able to read each other's minds and swap together

Or you could always ping what you hittin

I usually do the hivemind strat

[fierce elm]

Don't break from the hivemind

thats cringe

[lavish quest]

Afro's cringe

Tbh

[frank knoll]

Ele shaman gonna be sleeper op

Everyone is just too regarded to play it properly
Requires a higher cognitive load

[wheat jay]

?

is that an irony or?

am i late to the joke?

[spice hornet]

Yes

[main crag]

Any pvp guild on burning legion eu?

[green wharf]

do you guys think is funny that the "arms" warrior in the spec selection is actually a death knight

[wheat jay]

how is it a death knight

its a draenei with their symbol on forehead

[green wharf]

if you google draenei death knight, thats the image that comes up and those blue powers in the axe, forehead and eyes re frost/dk stuff

[wheat jay]

oh it does

funny

id say its because its blue

lmao

[green wharf]

he is also in nortrehnd, killing undead

[wheat jay]

it also comes up if you google draenei arms warrior

so

ye

[green wharf]

im trying to pointpoint the armor he is using, and it looks like an older dk tier as well

[green wharf]

well, cause they were using that for the arms spec

[wheat jay]

colors fit dk

so it works for google search

armor looks to be generic plate shoulders from wotlk?

[green wharf]

im trying to get the original with google search too

but some korean pages keep poping out

ah i know which set it is

hold on

its the naxxaramas one

gloves and chest match almost 1;1

[wheat jay]

shoulders dont

[green wharf]

one of th horns is broken

in the image

[wheat jay]

i think your logic is kinda broken

but oh well

[rancid granite]

it's a POV image anyway, so arms image is us, the player, bout to get rekt by a dk

[wheat jay]

XD

[green wharf]

its falling appart

[sharp meteor]

ah yes onslaught

my favorite dk set

[lavish quest]

Because even arms players don't play arms

[green wharf]

its not onslaught

they dont have those curve horns

the close one is this one, but the rest of the shoulder isnt close

[worldly oriole]

Woke up instantly drank a preworkout and went to hit legs

[spice hornet]

Unemployed activities

[wheat jay]

its okay

tony will find job when he's 40

[boreal veldt]

:[

[lavish quest]

Then he ascends

[sly remnant]

is arms or fury the play atm?

[boreal veldt]

ret

[sly remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-hanging-gif-20498305

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/crusade-gif-3839391787017042472

[idle falcon]

i used to hit 4 mil executes last season

now the max this season is 2.5mil

what is happening 👀

[spice hornet]

Arms is bad

[idle falcon]

im talking fury

is it the fact that the tier set applies marked for execution at 33% effectiveness?

so u almost never get good executes

[wheat jay]

playing fury too long reduced all your gains

youre now irl weak

and that translates to your ingame dmg as warrior

[lavish quest]

War is a class blizz would rather you just not play

[idle falcon]

i am not

i got so angry that i lost 10 solo shuffle games in a row last season that i broke a metal pole

i was, some people may say, enraged

xD

[sly remnant]

me rn fr

4 games lost in a row

people not playing the objective

stuck in the 1600-1700 range as I am every season

arms is fun but maybe i should go fury for some self sustain

[wheat jay]

stuck 1600?

O_O

[sly remnant]

1670 rn

I get close to 1700 then loose multiple games in a row

[copper fox]

rn now

[sly remnant]

????

[green wharf]

so i went autistic and found who made it, and from where

Artist is Raymond Swanland, dude made countless of art for magic, wow, dnd and others

turns out tis a fury warrior

but there are two cards with the same art, to me it looks like people took the DK art and made the cards

they use his art for other specs too

[fierce elm]

Makes sense

[wheat jay]

Uses one 2hander, so in wow its arms

[violet fossil]

Man i hope he gets compensation for that

[green wharf]

it a dk pic that they used for a fury skill

[green wharf]

he prob only get if it goes to heartstone

[fierce elm]

He has already gotten compensated for it lmao

He created the art for WoW TCG which means that Blizzard has paid for the rights to use it

[fickle forge]

No clue

I ran this just now

12 eco

[green wharf]

once they comission your art, its they to splash everywhere they want

you don't get subsidiaries unless its stated in the contract

like some people still gain money from a movie, if it goes to streaming, others dont

[boreal veldt]

yeah, i did background work in a Sharknado movie a while back and I don't see a dime when it gets reaired

it was just a one time deal sorta contract payment

[simple forge]

is fury viable in pvp or should I just do arms?

[boreal veldt]

both ok, neither great, play what you like

[novel crater]

Fury is a bit better than arms rn

[green wharf]

cool, did the tornato got you or it was the sharks

[boreal veldt]

i think in the sharknado canon i was killed by the universal studio's globe

though the lead actor sized me up and called me too skinny

no context, dropped that line, left

[green wharf]

🤣

[fickle forge]

Is that him?!

[fickle forge]

About equal

I'd still call arms better

[spark pilot]

You guys use rank 1 Reshii wraps for arena?

or should i wear after i rank it up a bit

[fierce elm]

You automatically rank it up by just playing

and upgrading

[spark pilot]

oh i dont need to raid?

great

[fierce elm]

Shit drops everywhere

Do like 12 skirmishes and you are gonna be max rank

[spark pilot]

love that

[violet fossil]

if ur gonna have alt make sure you do all the purple triangle campaign quests

so when ur alt walks into karesh they can skip the whole thing and get the wraps instantly

[spark pilot]

barely have time to play one char unfortunately

but thanks

[violet fossil]

ah alright haha

just letting u know cause the campaign dragged on

[spark pilot]

lol im just dying to hit 1800

[jovial torrent]

@green wharf im pretty sure old Whirlwind animation was blue thats why it has a blue tint

[spark pilot]

just playing on weekends aint enough with these solo shuffle q times

[green wharf]

dont think thats the case

[jovial torrent]

yeh never really know, blue orange is always a colour combo that goes together so could also just be that for contrast

[feral matrix]

If i recraft a ring with added socket slot do they disappear? 😮

[fierce elm]

yes

[feral matrix]

Damn even if its season 3 sockets

[fierce elm]

I think so yes

[feral matrix]

shiiiiie

oki thanks 🙂

[fierce elm]

Actually I mght be wrong there

but I won't say anything for sure

test it for us lmfao

[feral matrix]

haha

scary to try

might send it

[violet fossil]

I think you lose the gem

[lavish quest]

See, now that you played arms this season Ravioli listens to you

[violet fossil]

Ravioli ravioli give me the formuoli

[fierce elm]

Gotta fotm reroll arms with these buffs

[lavish quest]

4% dam will mean we're allowed to be in melee range

Surely

[fierce elm]

you cant say we anymore

[lavish quest]

Fk u hoe

I still log my war

Sometimes

Maybe

[fierce elm]

lmao

[lavish quest]

If I'm feeling cute that day

[vestal heart]

Is icy veins guide good for PvP?

[sharp meteor]

lets see

"by Karanze"

no

[green wharf]

pvp guide written by m+ player karanze

pog

[fickle forge]

Ye don't listen to that guy

[green wharf]

did some bgs with 30% haste fury

not that bad

[fickle forge]

Fury is wack

[novel crater]

U can play high haste fury, it wont really feel bad in most scenarios

[stiff grove]

Haste fury is goated

[sharp meteor]

Not mastery fury?

Beeeeg bonks.

[green wharf]

it feels good cuz its procs all the time, not sure on the damage, since most bgs are meme

[stiff grove]

Why big bonk when can many bonk

Also honestly just feels snappier when it comes to stunning n stuff (naturally)

[green wharf]

yesterday i baited a paladin into reflect his stun then finish him off with demolish

it was like the first crit i got into the final slap, ever since i got 4p

cause i switched from slayer

Does this have a negative crit chance or smth

[sharp meteor]

Beeg bonk nice when lower uptime and has surprise factor

Missing reckless abandon thane

[stiff grove]

Simply have permanent uptime

[spice hornet]

We’re still meeting Iguazu on Monday yeah? @green wharf

[stiff grove]

I hear you tho. I'll prob always play haste cause it's my pref

[green wharf]

Hell no

[bright kraken]

what should i spend conq on

[green wharf]

boots, craft rings and neck

turn gloves, legs and shouldr into pvp pieces

with the item

[cold frigate]

Is the idea of spear that its better than droar into classes that are hard to get uptime on like mage? Or is it more of a comp thing where u pick it if it works well with your team?

[stiff grove]

Play both

Ez clap

[dawn sail]

ez clap

[stiff grove]

🤝

[daring wasp]

Any tips to get to 1,8k as total pvp noob? I really Wang That Elite set

[sharp meteor]

Just maximize damage to something.

[daring wasp]

Solo shuffle?

[sharp meteor]

When you fear/wall try to do it when 1) healer is in cc and/or 2)enemy team has offensive cds up

You can play shuffle or blitz.

It's like do you prefer arena or battlegrounds

[daring wasp]

Shock Talent should i Play in Solo Shuffle ?

[daring wasp]

which

[midnight cloud]

I finally know why u guys said Blitz can be frustrating and a grind

so many pple not knowing what to do T-T

[sharp meteor]

if it makes u feel better

at no mmr do people know what to do

[midnight cloud]

ah i see

thanks Kennie, i will take a break and head back in again to grind for 2100

i tried calling out for pple to do the correct strats as shown in the guides but pple dun listen

[sharp meteor]

ye just gotta make the most of it

[hollow plover]

Dunno why but im like 0/5 score in twin peaks this season. And every game the issue is that our team doesnt have anyone who can FC so i have to do it and i suck

[jovial torrent]

i feel like peaks is very comp/ which side u get

[daring wasp]

this doesnt change my pve itemlvl right?

[midnight cloud]

it does, it gives the aura on your armor

[drifting arrow]

bro pvp is so ass ngl... 300 game still stuck at 1600-1700

in ss

[haughty jewel]

HOw is that pvp fault

[drifting arrow]

how do u guys have the mental

[haughty jewel]

Mental illness

[drifting arrow]

to keep playing this mess

[haughty jewel]

Drugs bro

Adderal helps U do things u dont wanna do a lot

[drifting arrow]

bro im trying to get the mog is pure crazy

im getting 8 stage of cancer

playing ss

[haughty jewel]

Bro just do

battleground blitz

and ull get it in like

1 day

[drifting arrow]

before i got to 1793..dropped to 1680, reached 1770, dropped to 1730

nah is even worse in bg

stuck at 1250 or something i get 7 rating

and i did like idk not even 10 games

dunno what happened in that shitty game mode too xD

then every paladin i have suck massiv dicks, every pala i have against me are god

this fuckers

[green wharf]

just get the best build in murlok io, best stats, ;enchants and all

then you just do big dam

[drifting arrow]

already done

but idk im around 300 rounds

still not 1800

but my stomach and head hurt a lot ngl

thats prob a goal

[green wharf]

watch some videos on rotations, this thing gets with practice

[drifting arrow]

im using stormbolt macro, charge macro, fear macro, intervene macro, trying to cc heal and pressure the other dps's but sometime i just get cooked hard ngl

[green wharf]

like who you focus, when you do CDs

[drifting arrow]

i perma stance dance when needed, always def up idk

i did that, i was watching today and asking tips to better players

but seems like im unlucky idk i cant catch a win streak

cant wait to reach 1800 get mog and send to fk mars this gamemode ngl

sorry for the vent lol

im tired, still need to sleep

[novel crater]

if u play fury, always play spear, if u are arms u can swap or play both

[novel crater]

if u cant reach 18 in shuff/blitz then its most likely a rotation problem. Try to no q when u are tilted, u'll just lose cr and think of it as u are testing ur skill vs the skill of others. EVERYTHING is your fault, nothing is "unlucky" there is always something u couldve done better specially below R1 range. Post vods so others can point u in the right direction or view them yourself and you'll prob notice a lot of stuff

[midnight cloud]

i feel that Solo shuffle is easier to get 1800 than Blitz. Cos in Blitz you can get teamed up with pple who have no idea what to do and it just keeps happening.

In Solo, at least i can just focus on my rotation, cc and ensure i dun line the healer

[midnight cloud]

have a good rest sir, you will get it. Stay strong

[midnight cloud]

Any advice on how to get out of the 1500 -1700 range in Blitz? I have been sharing with the blitz group what they need to do and kept sticking to the strat or my role as a warrior but i keep losing games where my whole team do things like dun cap, dun take orbs or just simply running around for no reason

[green wharf]

in blitz you just q more and more

kill people until they die

train healers like a mad dog

[midnight cloud]

yea that is so frustrating sir

i kept doing that and feel so helpless when my team is not even doing what strats or guides are sharing on the bgs

even when i top dmg we still lose

but i hear u, will just keep queing

thanks btw

i am not even 50 games in but just frustrated cos i see so many things beyond what i can do

Like i was spinning mid with a healer, we held 4 pple at our node, but my team did not even cap a single node for the whole 5 mins

[novel crater]

I dont really q a lot of blitz, although I was like 2900 last season, so take what I say as someone who qs mostly arena. Whenever Ive been below 2.4k in blitz ive mostly been able to brute force my way through 70% of lobbies, meaning there are lobbies u will 100% lose no matter what, but if you are doing your rotation perfectly as a War or playing DW Fury u should easily be doubling everyone elses dmg and just win off that

my advice would be to record your games

[midnight cloud]

okay, thank you sir

[novel crater]

and not to think so much on the niche tech stuff

[midnight cloud]

okay got it

[novel crater]

anything below 2400 u can def improve your rotation and the basics

and that will carry u through lobbies more than anything else

[midnight cloud]

got it, will practice and keep improve

appreciate the advice, Santi

[novel crater]

record and share ur games too, or even look them over yourself. you;ll be amazed the amount of mistakes I can spot on myself everytime I go over game footage and everyone has a similar story in that regard

[midnight cloud]

okay, i will try to record them (=

[split helm]

https://x.com/Bigmoranx/status/1964527101270512026?s=19

Saw this on twitter I thought it was funny 😁

Bigmoran (@Bigmoranx)

This spec is an ABOMINATION.

They cry EVERY EXPANSION unless they are S+ TIER.

Blizzard INTENTIONALLY makes Ret OP because it is the MOST POPULAR spec in the game and is designed for IDIOTS.

PARTICIPATION TROPHY CULTURE!

Gut this spec IMMEDIATELY.

X · Sep 7, 2025, 3:12 AM

[drifting arrow]

Is there a way where to look for the best rotation in pvp as fury?

[novel crater]

Warrieds guide is on pins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yux7MH_pgBE

[left flint]

Hi guys, I have 0 experience in PvP as warrior. I mainly pve as prot. Would you suggest arms or fury? For context - I'm only doing this to get the elite set.

I will probably be doing this in 2's

[novel crater]

both are completely viable below r1. I personally suggest Fury as I find it way more fun but I might be biased. You should have no trouble with the elite set in 2s/shuff/blitz

[left flint]

Yeah I generally do elite sets on my other chars each season, mainly healers in PvP. But the warrior one is too good to pass up!! I'll give fury a go, thanks!

[lavish quest]

So have you hit 1800 with it yet hmmmmmm?

[fallen estuary]

i mean he isnt wrong tho

[split helm]

Have you reached end game yet ?

[lavish quest]

Haven't hit lv 1 yet

[split helm]

bro wtf you are fucking around you are I don't know man ....

this league is awesome ACT 4 absolute beauty

[lavish quest]

Was busy touching sand brother

I got home yesterday afternoon tho

Back to work this morning

[wheat jay]

random guy playing monk

dm'd me saying my weapons on monk are wrong, its honor gear

he is so helpful and wholesome

monks are best ❤️

[lavish quest]

You don't know how to gear your monk with honor gear?

Weird

[wheat jay]

no

lol

[lavish quest]

True fotm reroller. No clue what's going on, just play what's op, and have it carry you even with your leveling weapons

Stay you king

BASED

[split helm]

you can touch sand in the game !

tsk

fair enough dude you enjoying your life and that's good I hope you had a great time !

[wheat jay]

oh

monk dropped slicing winds lmao

[left flint]

stupid question maybe - after 2500 conq, do you get token for 2 x 2h?

[lavish quest]

Yes

[left flint]

oh nice

thankyou

[lavish quest]

Anytime

[lavish quest]

It was great! I got sick for the last couple of days of it tho and still am

[split helm]

that sucks ufff well I hope you do end up getting better tho 🙂

[hollow plover]

still not sure which one is gonna be easier route for the weapon tmogs

[tribal wedge]

depend of your mmr in blitz, shuffle is more you dependent

[lavish quest]

Is what it is, all good. Hope to update poe2 soon, this coming "weekend" perhaps

[split helm]

I am enjoying myself big time so much fun def try it out 😄

[fickle forge]

Wake the fuck up gang

[split helm]

no sweat either def can go higher LOL

[lavish quest]

I do hear the crafting is a lot better.
Not that I touched it at all last time. I just collected orbs and such lol

[wheat jay]

get in, collect free cosmetic

dip

no new classes

no new weapons 🙁

[split helm]

yes crafting is better if you know what you doing

abyss is cool

sprinting is cool

end game is the dogshit part of poe 2 but the rest is getting better

but for 0.4 they are revamping endgame towers and etc

[wheat jay]

thats cool

[split helm]

we don't know if they will remove towers or not yet but I would love that

[wheat jay]

so 4.0 is druid, possibly new weapon, probably no new story, but endgame changes

that's nice

maybe tyhey can also do something with dogshit side zones and side quests that are mandatory to do...

[split helm]

maps are smaller and you can do them quicker on end game which is nice but still loads of work to do

wdym mandatory side quests ?

[wheat jay]

like viper crypts

to get bonuses

[split helm]

brother those are permanent stats for your char that are important

and it doesn't take that long either legit 3 4 min and ytou done

[wheat jay]

annoying chore

first time its cool

not 15th

[split helm]

you have to do campaign every single time you do a new char and the only thing you are worried is viper map which is 3 min run xD

[wheat jay]

yes

because those force me to sidetrack

when i want to rush campaign

and be done with it

i want to rush through campaign to do endgame, not look around every single map to find 2 more spec points

just give them to me when i finish the act???

[split helm]

?? they are right next to the waypoint which you find regardless normally next to the monkey that you need to kill to get extra 2 passive points ?

you say rush through campaign how long it takes you to do campaign ?

[scarlet barn]

holy fuck is that recent?

[fickle forge]

Yesterday

Hafthor is just inhumanly strong

[wheat jay]

absolute monster

[graceful moon]

protection paladin in solo shuffle

[fickle forge]

What

[lavish quest]

Good thing I don't lmao

[split helm]

Is not that complicated tbh few guides and voilà

[spice hornet]

NAIT is back?

Oh no

[fierce elm]

he never left

[fickle forge]

Nait is an icon, not a person

We can all be Nait

[lavish quest]

Nait is our fallen champion.
Our Sargeras that went dark mode when he lost in solo shuffle

[copper fox]

Nait secretly gatekeeping the 1500 bracket

Is not that complicated tbh few guides and voilà

[lavish quest]

Guides can't help me defeat the cabal

[fickle forge]

@urban skiff Lock in

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1223649170007523500/1413280853563412581/image.png?ex=68bea79c&is=68bd561c&hm=067a8f9636c8f5da5f1dfb50f0cb24f58f6036164510b9e4e6cd121f3ecc0bb4&

[rancid granite]

what about Tony?

can we all strive to be like Tony?

[fickle forge]

Tony is nothing compared to Nait

[rancid granite]

would love to see them duel it'd be like the unstoppable force meets the immovable object

a legendary battle

[fierce elm]

there we go

[urban skiff]

I feel like you're just now discovering things i've been saying for 2 seasons now 🥳

[fickle forge]

Enh sham blows brother

It's still playing season 1

But stormbringer at least cracks during ascend now

[lavish quest]

Cute

[fierce elm]

4 13s to 3k baby

managed to jump 10 to 13 priory in one key

So much for wanting Mage artifacts to be 'prestigeful'

When we are giving way this ensemble AGAIN

[wheat jay]

blizz is stupid...

presitigious my ass lmao

[fierce elm]

Yeah can't have mage artifacts but can bring this back lmfao

okay then

Curve mount, these ensembles

but no artifact weapons

crazy

[wheat jay]

blizz bringing back the most prestigious elements of pve XD

curve mount lmao

so

pvp sets next i presume

lmao

[fierce elm]

remix brother

but what the fuck

just give us the OG mage tower back

HELLO

[wheat jay]

they should at this point lol

[lavish quest]

But ma boomers

[wheat jay]

just give everything

make ppl play fuckton for it

suddenly numbers are skyhigh

pvp sets

farm the fuck out of games to get it

[lavish quest]

Won't you think about the boomers Artji

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-why-are-you-gay-pepe-julian-who-is-gay-you-are-gay-gif-15004128

[simple forge]

is there a free conquest weapon quest this season?

haven't pvpd since season 1

[rancid granite]

yep

astral something in achievements

2400 conq

[simple forge]

ok ty

[fierce elm]

2500

[rancid granite]

still get 2 for Warr

[simple forge]

should I bother getting aspirant weapons, or go for armor pieces? im playing fury

[fierce elm]

I mean

yes?

You are gonna need pvp gear

If you aren't doing crate farming you need the honor weapons

[wheat jay]

who?

[simple forge]

what do I get from crate farming?

[fierce elm]

Conquest

Bloody tokens

hnor

[wheat jay]

you mean idiots who think their 20yr old pixels are worth anything and relevant?

[lavish quest]

Yes, they worked hard for them.
Listen, you'll get to own your very own house soon (in game,) isn't that enough?
You should be grateful

[wheat jay]

ah yes

wait

can we get jobs in wow?

i remember silkroad had job system

Tony would be ecstatic

[lavish quest]

Chance at pvp recipes and bloodstone too

[lavish quest]

Wow is already a job my child

[wheat jay]

nah

[lavish quest]

Also Tony is waiting for 40 to get a job

Then his life really begins

[wheat jay]

oh right

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/its-like-when-im-doing-good-in-the-game-im-doing-good-in-life-oh-i-want-to-make-fun-of-you-for-saying-that-but-i-kind-of-know-what-you-mean-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-sweet-dee-dee-reynolds-gif-27263626

[simple forge]

i guess what I really meant is should i get weapons first or use that honor to get multiple pieces

[stiff grove]

Weapons first

More dam is most important

[simple forge]

ok ty

[rancid granite]

get bloody token quest stuff done ASAP so you can grab wrist belt and something else

[simple forge]

I did get the wrist and belt already 🙂

idk what else i would want

[rancid granite]

then honor on w/e else, you'll replace it with conq real quick but w/e

[simple forge]

ok tysm

[wheat jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/905959827891712050/1414302422871965696/image.png?ex=68bf1346&is=68bdc1c6&hm=959e6a74d92589ff8682dafccae8d0bf862c01354815b25fa8b2130b29092ddb&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=370&height=162

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/905959827891712050/1414302720344588419/image.png?ex=68bf138d&is=68bdc20d&hm=3b714b067951a4e82f949f8a33a4fb8e270d6b4a5e127c311e8af452a8bc327a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=356&height=190

XDDDDDDDDD

bruh

this is the funniest shit ive seen in a while

[fierce elm]

he does have a point

[wheat jay]

with q timer?

ye

but inting cuz he played dps build on a healer and got trained every round

xD

is pathetic

[fickle forge]

@urban skiff 200 cr left to go

[urban skiff]

I wont hit 2100 this season lol

[wheat jay]

he's a scammer dont worry

[urban skiff]

Immediately if i lock in they're going to nerf enh

[wheat jay]

mans riding on that mmr from last season

[urban skiff]

Bet

[wheat jay]

nah legit man XD

[fickle forge]

I started at 1800

My enh career this season started with 3 left lobbies

[lethal hawk]

is fury rly that better than arms this ssn? since i cant kill dead cow with it

[tribal wedge]

with fury?

[lethal hawk]

yes, getting owned in ss at 2kish atm

[tribal wedge]

fury's damage are pretty good

[lethal hawk]

i cant live once enraged regen ends

[tribal wedge]

make a better use of D stance, don't go to far following caster, use your CC at the right timing etc

[rancid granite]

wth is d stance

dick stance? where you charge and demolish the enemy with it?

[green wharf]

isnt that just professions

[wheat jay]

no, jobs O_O

[green wharf]

but it is some sort of job, its just more freelancer stuff

[split helm]

@lavish quest this shit is busted XD you go so fast aswell !

[copper fox]

!

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/turn-down-volume-mute-volume-gif-14268149

[fierce elm]

!

[lavish quest]

What is that, huntress?

[split helm]

nah deadeye twister build

I am at 7.98 APS atm

[green wharf]

ret nerf wasnt even that big of a nerf and its not even online yet

[split helm]

some people are at 9.99 which is even faster than this

crazy

[green wharf]

and i already saw ret in bgs diminish

[fierce elm]

Rets was running Herald before Templar became available this week to more people

So yes

the ret nerf doesnt matter except for a build that was better than herald

but herald was already so good

[daring wasp]

I made it

[fierce elm]

yoo

[daring wasp]

can anyone tell me how to get the red weapon?^^

[fierce elm]

The elite weapon?

Hit 2.1 then buy from vendor for marks of honor

[daring wasp]

damn^^

maybe ill try that^^

[worldly oriole]

am I gonna see hypertrophy gains with 3 sets?@copper fox

I've done more before but I've been on 3 per exercise for awhile now

[lavish quest]

I thought only huntress did the twister thing lol

[split helm]

every class can use any skill any weapon

you can legit make a warrior and use a bow

[green wharf]

point is that even when the nerf didnt matter, people already gave up from playing it

[fierce elm]

yeah

because turns out if you fotm a spec you don't understand it

[green wharf]

i saw like two rets on the enemy team every since they announced

[fierce elm]

This is great for me : )

[copper fox]

All 3 sets per week for a muscle group? Need to be more specific

[worldly oriole]

9 sets in 8 days 3 sets 3 times a "week" @copper fox

per bodypart

I'm doing upper lower off repeat

so deadlifting 3 times in 8 days

hitting posterior chain with 9 sets

[lavish quest]

[split helm]

Exactly you can do wtv the fuck you want xD

[copper fox]

9 sets a week is enough for hypertrophy assuming all 9 of those sets are done to RIR 1-2

[worldly oriole]

yeah @copper fox

I've heard 10-20 but I've heard a coach recommend like 8 to 16 too

for weekly volume

[copper fox]

Most sets I would recommend per group is 12
15+ will probably negatively impact recovery so less gains

[worldly oriole]

yeah I was doing push pull legs and doing 2 chest presses 2 shoulder presses but I feel like it can be excessive especially when you get stronger @copper fox

I've also done 2 hip hinges twice a week for 3 sets each so that's 12 sets total

[fierce elm]

I have never met a man who overthinks stuff as much as this rn

[worldly oriole]

just tryna gain knowledge. don't wanna waste my own time or mislead anyone with advice @fierce elm

[fierce elm]

(If you are asking these type of things you shouldn't give advice)

[worldly oriole]

how you think you get to the point where you can advise people lol by gaining knowledge

[fierce elm]

By gaining knowledge yes

lmao

But don't give advice if you don't have the basic knowledge yet

[worldly oriole]

I'm not

[fierce elm]

brushed agaisnt this

thats all

Also it doesn't come down to set count but rather how hard your sets are

Most people are not doing 1-2 RIR because most people can't judge that

[worldly oriole]

yeah because I might work at a gym

you get in tune with what you can lift if you've done it awhile

[fierce elm]

I'd say you have no idea how far you can really push yourself unless you are pushing really big weight

Even the most experienced people and the strongest in the world have people checking what they are doing

[worldly oriole]

ya that's why I'm asking for outside opinion

[fierce elm]

Hitting 1-2RIR at a consistent rate through every set is hard

[worldly oriole]

sure but it's not that bad on one exercise

but if you're doing multiple chest or shoulder it's deff excessive

someone told me for a push day they do 2 chest press 2 shoulders

and I tried it

2 exercise twice a week at 3 sets is 12 sets weekly

which falls into the recommended sets

[lavish quest]

I have much to learn it seems

[split helm]

you will need a PHD, I am not even joking LOL

there is people with 30k hours in POE and still learning new shit

but POE 2 is bit easier

[lavish quest]

I'm a warrior so I'm a genius

[copper fox]

Everyone winning their week 1 fantasy rn?

[green wharf]

their what

[copper fox]

Football

[frank knoll]

Yeah

Im in a 14 team league rn
Its rough

[lavish quest]

Football, imagine caring amirite

[copper fox]

14 team wtf lol

I’m in a 10 man, I won’t play higher than 10 man leagues

[wheat jay]

isn't football 11ppl?

[fierce elm]

14 fantasy teams

brother

not 14 people on the field

14 is a lot

[wheat jay]

ye im confused leaving the convo

bye

[fierce elm]

what

A fantasy league is a group of people

that each have their own team

so called a fantasy team

they do a draft and pick players and such

[green wharf]

i only watch brazil football, sometimes

[fierce elm]

So in a 14 team fantasy league there are 14 people participating

(Usually)

[copper fox]

lol

[fierce elm]

I lost my american football addiction a while back

I am an NBA type of guy now

[frank knoll]

NBA real popular in Europe I hear

[frank knoll]

Yeah never again

[fierce elm]

More eastern europe and such

and Spain

But yeah its pretty popular everywhere here too

[copper fox]

Yea I watch nfl and nhl, only watch nba finals

[novel crater]

Nba is not the same as the old days

0 physicality, everything is a foul

[lavish quest]

You wanna watch men touching each other? Weird

[wheat jay]

Combat sports best

Team sports wack

[frank knoll]

Euro Football is basically a combat sport

It’s just the fans doing the combat
When I was in Germany the Hooligans for the Frankfurt team were marching and chanting and getting all riled up

[violet fossil]

A guy I know drafted Patrick mahomes

He was all excited til they played 😂

[frank knoll]

I got Hurts

But now im getting cooked cause Cooper Kupp isn’t getting the ball

[copper fox]

Nico Collin’s getting 1 touch and kittle out already

Probably winning week 1 but might be cooked afterwards

[frank knoll]

I’m putting Skattebo in later on in the season
I’m stoked I got him

[green wharf]

you mention that

here in brazil we had an actual armed conflict between organized fans from different rival teams

on the street,it ended with the leader one of then dead and other several harmed

crazy stuff

[frank knoll]

We have Philly sports fans here
That’s the closest thing to that

[green wharf]

but it was like real war stuff hundred of people fighting on the street

the son of a friend of mine got beaten to shit, had to spend a few days in the hospital

[weary arch]

Egbuka will be my new puca from 2 years ago

[green wharf]

good for pvp?

[fierce elm]

Turkey adds 500 rating

[lavish quest]

You're from south America, this may not be a meme

[green wharf]

turkeys dont live only here though

[lavish quest]

Coulda been imported

You and your turkey fetish and all

[green wharf]

a few years ago i did had some chickens though

good for eggs

but we sold the terrain where we kept then

[fickle forge]

Game must be awful if it's unplayable as enh

[green wharf]

if thats average for enh

imagine for rets

i think q times will be better with uncapped conquest

[fierce elm]

Its 1am

dude is playing at high rating

stop

lmao

[green wharf]

8pm

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/timezone-laugh-at-this-user-gif-21867296

[obtuse oar]

Got the set (finally). Ty for the help, Warriors

[fierce elm]

HUGE

[green wharf]

[obtuse oar]

Actually grew to enjoy it. Think I'll take this thing for a spin in PvE

[rancid granite]

logitech mx15 mouse? 10/10 setup

[lavish quest]

Another success story for the books

[drifting arrow]

1 point from 1800...i wanna die and the last match was a draw....

ss really must suck

[rancid granite]

na thats just u

[drifting arrow]

no u

[violet fossil]

damn he got u

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/uno-reverse-card-gif-24856155

[rancid granite]

lmao

ya obv i had no comeback

well played.. well played

[green wharf]

Mud fan is malding on twitter again

[sharp meteor]

the only socially acceptable tank spec in pvp

cos it's the only way most people get above rival

[timber fractal]

how hard is 1800 to get?

[drifting arrow]

https://prnt.sc/_JWkkM1cFrlm its over

[jolly narwhal]

arms doesn't use thunder clap/rend rn?

I pulled a build off Dev (think it was him) and it doesn't have either of those

[sharp meteor]

need it on colo

kind of eh on slayer

[jolly narwhal]

ty

[urban skiff]

this is a buff

I just realized

[urban skiff]

imagine if dispels could miss so you couldn't even dispel it if you got hit too

[boreal veldt]

yep

[urban skiff]

guess i'm playing sub again lol

it wasn't complete torture last time

[boreal veldt]

probably back to dying in sub openers again

[urban skiff]

the secret to always dying in sub opener is that I always die during my opener as sub

[boreal veldt]

as long as someone dies in the opener, it still counts as dying during the sub opener