and then try fury
#pvp
jovial torrent
yeh just saying in general the back slot is kind of shit, and the flag just randomly floating behind you doesnt look nice either
lavish quest
I like it enough to use it whenever I think about it
jovial torrent
they need to do more of those things that follow you, like the warlock legion artifact for demo
lavish quest
Which is much of the time
fierce elm
They are already fucking all back items by these Legion remix cloaks
lavish quest
I have to flex on the pve nerds that I has big flag
lavish quest
They are already fucking all back items by these Legion remix cloaks
What are they?
fierce elm
oh brother
jovial torrent
those legion sets are crazy, also corrupted shalamayne
lavish quest
The back peice from the current raid is really cool
fierce elm
jovial torrent
its animated
fierce elm
Green/Yellow/red/purple
jovial torrent
the flame glow flows down and around the cape
lavish quest
Yo wtf, that is dope lol
fierce elm
fierce elm
lmao
jovial torrent
haha yep
fierce elm
gonna see every motherfucker in one of these
jovial torrent
the yellow set guna look so damn good on pala
then the green set with corrupted shalamayne
it even has 1h versions where its split
https://youtu.be/nedO3Oxw22M?t=676 sword clip
lavish quest
With the new conditional mog system thingy can set it to be a different color cloak in different areas lmao
jovial torrent
i dont really see myself using that part of the tmog system, id raher just have free changes
if i like my mog , im guna use it everywhere
could be a good way to store multiple mogs tho if it works like you can change where each mog shows on the fly
worldly oriole
just slammed upper body
lavish quest
Its supposed to work like that. You can set a mog for raids, so when you set into a raid you just look different. Then another for areans, etc
jovial torrent
yeh but if i like my mog i wana be same in all locations, if i can say have a raid and city mog saved and can switch them around on the fly
lavish quest
Judging off the lil preview thing anyways
jovial torrent
that would be cool cus it would be like having 2 mogs
lavish quest
Prob wil still need to be at a transmogger to change em. Unless you se tthe conditional before hand
Just a guess tho
jovial torrent
i wouldnt be suprised if someone made a addon to spoof location
i need to actually check when legion remix is, it cant be too far off right? since beta just ended for it
oct 7th apparently
worldly oriole
I have My In Game House MOG.
jovial torrent
i dunno what im guna play in legion remix, maybe pala just to blast ret and ez group with heals
jovial torrent
tempting but i just feel like ret will blast everything and u can cheese solo stuff with bubble
i missed most of mop remix just got in on the last few weeks to level some alts and collect mounts
sand sundial
foaming at the fucking mouth
rancid granite
FatFM
rancid granite
still no mage tower weapons though huh
jovial torrent
from what ive seen its very different
wheat jay
and mage tower to have scaled gear
sand sundial
is this plate
wheat jay
buuuuuuuuut ye
wheat jay
is this plate
every armor
sand sundial
or can any bum wear it
wheat jay
for every class
fierce elm
every
sand sundial
thats ok
wheat jay
my dh boutta be fucking plate looking lmao
jovial torrent
its not a spam for infinite power and its timegated per week and eventually dr's to +10 mainstat per point added to wep
sand sundial
tbh plate is consistently the best looking armor
wheat jay
its not a spam for infinite power and its timegated per week and eventually dr's...
mhmm
question is, will mythic raids be easy with it
fierce elm
They came out with a blogpost about it where they explicitly said they are looking at changing it
wheat jay
and +25 keys
fierce elm
before it gets released
jovial torrent
yeh i saw they blueposted it, so will see how much they change
visual plover
latency seems high but lemme check mine and see
wheat jay
xd
visual plover
not sure why mine has 2 numbers but it spiked to take the screeny a bit
it sits in the 3-6 ms range on the first number and i have no idea what the second number is for
jovial torrent
on the default wow ui its, home ping and server ping
urban skiff
latency seems high but lemme check mine and see
supposedly the latency don't get noticably bigger because of how reflex works in WoW
sand sundial
When is remix launching?
jovial torrent
early october
urban skiff
from the overlay?
Man I wish I could have steam's overlay in WoW instead of nvidia's
novel crater
Idk I still see 2 of my warriors above u old man
copper fox
rancid granite
Methyltren: Santi's kitten 4ever
copper fox
Remember all these comments
I’m already 500mg deep it’s 11am. By the time I q I’ll be so cracked out it might be a top 5 night
fierce elm
Im 500mg of ibuprofen deep
copper fox
Yea that’s the mental pain ret players deal with
fierce elm
My back man : (
copper fox
Are you 2700 yet
rancid granite
oh shit i forgot i got tier in vault week 1
4pc colossus here we go
694ilvl #worth
rancid granite
now there's like delves and shit to do to upgrade it though 
copper fox
Aatos isn’t well informed
rancid granite
do what now
wheat jay
xD
urban skiff
i got 4set this week
me too, have a catalyst charge to spare that I'm gonna use on BT boots next reset
then i'll have all slots at 720 except trinkets
wheat jay
me too, have a catalyst charge to spare that I'm gonna use on BT boots next res...
boots?
urban skiff
has haste and mastery with a greater than 50/50 split
wheat jay
catalyst
urban skiff
I have 4 set
wheat jay
okay
urban skiff
I don't need catalyst charges for anything else but more stats
wheat jay
...
urban skiff
how do these look from a stylish pov?
copper fox
Can someone tell me what stats the conq boots have if you cata them
fierce elm
Like period blood
copper fox
Plate boots
urban skiff
trying to go for a blood meter with the edges being warrior class coloured
fierce elm
Can someone tell me what stats the conq boots have if you cata them
blue
copper fox
Mf
urban skiff
Like period blood
My wife's blood dk is named Menstruating
can't level it because she plays it only a few days a month
copper fox
urban skiff
<:monkahmm:1382590600439664751>
not joking
copper fox
I believe you
urban skiff
She wouldn't tolerate me if she wasn't either an angel or equally unhinged
worldly oriole
Lol the guy at the gym told me farted on his wallet
Now he has Gas Money, then he said Let's work and started lifting
rancid granite
7m demo into 5m ms 
urban skiff
7m demo into 5m ms <:chefkiss:715351349264515163>
the enhancement experience
rancid granite
the enh delelting ME and my healer
cosmic field
when the arcane mage is 4-0 then on your round.... man i hate shuffle sometimes
fierce elm
always the lob
worldly oriole
It was 100% the lob
disc in greens
we were supposed to go ret
and im the only one behind the pillar on the ret for literally a minute before i died
fierce elm
I don't even know what toon you are on anymore lmfao
worldly oriole
im 2210 on DH
worldly oriole
Yes asshole disc in greens didnt heal me at all final round
and my hunter wasnt on the kill target with me
so i gained nothing
25mins for a 3-3
0 rating
worldly oriole
just fuckin win the game
we literally just won the round before
same comp just diff heals
fierce elm
t h e l o b b i e s
fierce elm
Its the lobbies
worldly oriole
we literally just beat him
fierce elm
Tony could be alone in the lobby and still blame it
boreal veldt
What your demo ms crits?
as long as the last hit in demo doesn't bug
fierce elm
They were definitely win trading
its the lobbies
urban skiff
the enh delelting ME and my healer
yea it's so much fun lol
I've had dps peak at 10m
Never goes any higher because nothing lives long enough for me to do more damage to them
urban skiff
If you want to suck ass, sure
If you want to be a king, you grab haste to 20%, then hit mastery cap and then vers the rest
wheat jay
100% wintreade
urban skiff
2 set minimum, I'm still messing with 4set
wheat jay
SHOULD i grab haste gear
on dh?
worldly oriole
no for enhance
green wharf
If you want to suck ass, sure
im going with this cause fuck pwave
rugged temple
For fury should I just use the 2 free tokens you get from the achievement to buy 2 weapons?
urban skiff
im going with this cause fuck pwave
Do you hate doing 10m damage in 1 second or something?
urban skiff
For fury should I just use the 2 free tokens you get from the achievement to buy...
Two 2handers!
If you play SMF THANE you gonna turn out like me. Don't want more of me.
green wharf
Do you hate doing 10m damage in 1 second or something?
why, are you a mage?
urban skiff
Might as well be. I do it from 25 yards with a feral lunge peestorm windstrike
green wharf
Might as well be. I do it from 25 yards with a feral lunge peestorm windstrike
primordial storm was shit all the time i used 🤷🏾♂️
urban skiff
Maybe you suck
green wharf
elemental assault mae stormstrike and windstrike hit more
urban skiff
You want frost witch and many doggos and doomwinds and a global to hit right after peestorm.
Execution of peestorm takes a while so you can squeeze in 1-2 globals during it and just rake up the damage.
Peak is tossing two Tempests peewave doomwinds peestorm + stormstrike or LB or a 3rd Tempest
green wharf
dont sounds very feasible/consistent with how arenas go
urban skiff
It just kinda happens all the time for me
Same way i get ascendance proc from 2set 10 seconds before ascendance is ready again almost every time
Want to watch someone shit themselves? Get an ascendance proc and half wipe them out and then hit your cooldowns right after and just watch their will to live fade
green wharf
It just kinda happens all the time for me
then are you elite yet
urban skiff
then are you elite yet
no, because besides doing damage I suck at everything else in the game
But damage is tbh where I'm pretty stronk
rancid granite
thats awesome dude =p
urban skiff
Any arms warriors want to try out my new weakaura for mortal strike cooldown tracking? It's entirely about being cool and not at all otherwise functional
lavish quest
that handle would get you disqualified on forged in fire
Funny cuz this thing is ran by a guy who was on that show lol
green wharf
Its a pretty fun show
urban skiff
why would it get you disqualified?
@fierce elm try this for arms
No sounds or anything
actually attempt at making something cool
green wharf
why would it get you disqualified?
to small for the hand, i assuming by the size he is holding, and the twisting might make the knife twist when you hit something
fierce elm
im in bed
fierce elm
what
urban skiff
You sick
fierce elm
no?
fierce elm
I got work in the morning lmao
urban skiff
@fickle forge i made this especially for you
plz rate it
for anyone else, it looks like this
Think i might want to add bubbles somehow but not sure how
worldly oriole
@fierce elm Can You Rate My Next Lobby
urban skiff
Ideally it will replace the Ms / overpower / execute icons so I can track it all with one thing
green wharf
but it's for tracking mortal strike cooldown
you should pick a skill that doesnt reset
like Colossus smash /avatar
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> i made this especially for you
message.txt
rancid granite
@boreal veldt finally trying 4pc demo
needa tweak stats a bit
but
S+++ meta
6.3m ms
green wharf
needa tweak stats a bit
stts are fine though
green wharf
less haste mroe crit
are you mental or smth
wheat jay
OMG
PUMPER ARMS
IN SHUFFLE
GOD AMONG MEN
HE IS PUMPING LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
spice hornet
Arms can’t close out games
spice hornet
Because the dk boomy assa bm hunter survival hunter arcane mage already killed you or your team before arms pressure finally kicked in
rancid granite
are you mental or smth
🤏
wheat jay
can someone explain me somehting
please
how does this hit for 2.3mil?
cuz the description of it
seems like it should be just duplicating dmg from any target around hit with physical dmg, to do dmg to my main target with the mark
like
it doesnt make sense?
green wharf
spice hornet
Do Not Question the superior version of warrior (DH)
wheat jay
okay i know how it works now
it actually makes sense now lmao
so, it calculates the dmg every 1 second, and all my physical dmg happens in a 1s window
thus singular big hit
and it scales with mastery cuz it hits as chaos
jesus that is one weird fucking ability
boreal veldt
<@239902150266847232> finally trying 4pc demo
Yeeeeeee
rancid granite
never going back
boreal veldt
The 4p is a little scuffed though, i mentioned it a while ago. But the 3rd hit in demo has to go off for it to trigger
It doesn't have to hit anything but it has to at least finish
Or you don't get the 4p tier buff
rancid granite
yeah
if the 3rd hit doesn't go off the whole burst is kinda ruined anyway so I don't mind it lol
boreal veldt
fair
jovial torrent
demo was so weird when i played it, it felt better honestly to just spam fear while keeping pets up than gen shards
wheat jay
hehehhehehehhehehehe
scarlet barn
urban skiff
you should pick a skill that doesnt reset
Looks fine when it resets from ms. Only an issue when it resets from tactician. I want it to be something with a lot of movement, so just once every 30/45/90 seconds isn't enough for me
urban skiff
Who beat you?
worldly oriole
The ret enhance fucked my shadow priest with the MW healing him
urban skiff
is there ever a point where arms warriors look at the rage bar?
worldly oriole
Oh no sketchy lobby
urban skiff
The spell icons already tell us if we have enough rage for a button or not, do we ever really truly look at rage bar?
modest shadow
Do I play fury/arms or prot
urban skiff
Do I play fury/arms or prot
arms
urban skiff
@green wharf
green wharf
is the god of war thingy
green wharf
i think one or the other
both kinda weird
and i think it should be for avatar or colossus
when it fuels all the blood it flashes saying you can c-smash again
urban skiff
Bottom glass thing is rage bar
looks way more clean without the blood texture but I'm still messing with it
wheat jay
Wtf is that
Zercher
Make me weakaura to see stacks of reavers glaive
I need more chaos in my dh gameplay
urban skiff
Wtf is that
now with a warbreaker tracker
urban skiff
Make me weakaura to see stacks of reavers glaive
what do you even need it to do?
minor heath
playing slayer arms and little bit lost in what to get next, got hc 4set and read that 2pc is enough for slay arms
my thoughtprocess was replace pieces that doesnt have the best stats on em which is helm and gloves
would u buy conquest helm and gloves here? then maybe upgrade honor belt to bloody one?
still only halfway through conq cap
any help is very appreciated 
wheat jay
what do you even need it to do?
Track stacks, and track big buff
Rest is your talent in making abominations
modest shadow
can try colo arms with 4pc
I will try this ty
modest shadow
playing slayer arms and little bit lost in what to get next, got hc 4set and rea...
(I don’t PvP) I’m just asking for myself. Can you not sim PvP gear?
sharp meteor
Can't sim pvp.
modest shadow
Oh so it’s feelcraft lol
sharp meteor
Sort of.
sharp meteor
Crit is generally bad.
modest shadow
Feel like arms likes crit especially with ms but idk
minor heath
im new to pvp so not really fully in the know how to optimize gearing - read around a bit though so feels like im on the right track, just wanted to get some opinions if im totally lost or not - i got told not to buy weapon at least so i know that x)
modest shadow
Less think more zug
wheat jay
im new to pvp so not really fully in the know how to optimize gearing - read aro...
You get free after getting 2500 conquest
minor heath
yeah still working towards those
jovial torrent
do not "buy weapon" get it only when u get the free token
novel crater
playing slayer arms and little bit lost in what to get next, got hc 4set and rea...
U will be better off replacing the pve pieces even with honor gear. As Slayer u’ll play 2 set, shoulders and legs. Everything else u will eventually just get conq gear
4 set is only for colossus
And the pve pieces will drop ur stats by a ton
minor heath
yeah planned to buy lacquer and varnish on shoulders and legs to get them to 723
urban skiff
Track stacks, and track big buff
i don't even know how it works, man
minor heath
but helm and gloves got crit and no vers so thought maybe best to start with those and buy conq versions
wheat jay
i don't even know how it works, man
Yes.
urban skiff
do you want effort or chaos?
novel crater
but helm and gloves got crit and no vers so thought maybe best to start with tho...
Yes, u need a lot of vers specially as arms. Replace those even with green honor gear if u have too
minor heath
cheers 🙂
wheat jay
do you want effort or chaos?
Your call
green wharf
what happened to me
wheat jay
This discord is lost
Gone
No hope left
Everyone turning into a furry
Just roll a rogue at this point
Cuz you're an animal already...
green wharf
Everyone turning into a furry
relax, daddy is back on wheels
modest shadow
what happened to me
vulperas are dope
rancid granite
Just roll a rogue at this point
wait whats wrong with rogue 👀
wheat jay
wait whats wrong with rogue 👀
What isn't?
green wharf
these guy is trading people with the mage food and says this
lots of weird people playing this game
modest shadow
it's an add on
wheat jay
the only thing right is i play one
Despicable
wheat jay
i dont associate with them tho
If you suck a dick, but you don't vibe with gays, are you still gay in the end?
rancid granite
they're the gay one for letting me suck their dick i'm completely straight
wheat jay
they're the gay one for letting me suck their dick i'm completely straight
But you did the sucking
Thus you gay
spice hornet
they're the gay one for letting me suck their dick i'm completely straight
I open up discord, this is the first message I see
Most normal warrior discord PvP channel message
green wharf
whats up with colossus slam
just killed two dudes with some dumb crit from a sweeping strike
rancid granite
Most normal warrior discord PvP channel message
gotta rep our discord icon
green wharf
cringe
rancid granite
slam hitting 3-4m
modest shadow
tf do y'all do while waiting for queues?
rancid granite
workout, clean house, mobility work, stretch
jovial torrent
queues?
modest shadow
skill issue on my part
wheat jay
i prefer sub too if that makes it any worse
Ahh so you're a sub
So you're taking not giving
wheat jay
Wash hands before game starts of course
hollow smelt
what spec is easiest to get 1800
as arms slayer i feel like im not doing enough damage even tho i prefer arms over any warrior spec
sharp meteor
fury slayer prob best and easiest if u can do damagurs
hollow smelt
even for solo?
rancid granite
fury slayer prob best and easiest if u can do damagurs
he cant
i find arms easier than fury tbh
hollow smelt
i always played arms above 2.1 so
but rn i feel like im doing everything good and im dead and not doing damage
rancid granite
you can do arms fine rn still i dont think swapping fury would be any real difference
but try it out 👍
you might get some insight for arms by playing fury
wheat jay
but rn i feel like im doing everything good and im dead and not doing damage
Arms can definitely still pump, and literally 2shot people
I've seen arms slap a 5mil ms into 3mil exe
Soooooo ye
If you're not doing dmg you gotta check if you're playing as you should, plenty of warrs spam overpower rather than ms
And so on
hollow smelt
i usually stack 2x OP buff , 2x execute into MS
idk if its the correct way to do it still
rancid granite
yeah just spam ms, execute when its on cd, op when theyre both on cd
copper fox
Who the legend playing 800 prot games already <:blobcateyes:1038712159951142942>
Mans getting the job done
novel crater
i usually stack 2x OP buff , 2x execute into MS
Its not
OP if u have 2 stacks>MS>Execute>OP
That should be your prio to press as Slayer Arms outside of burst
jovial torrent
ayyy got my lightsmith pala up to where my herald pala was
travel time on weapons is crazy slow
weak wyvern
im surprised theres so many people playing colossus on murlok...anyhere have a first hand experience with it?
spice hornet
I think it’s the only way to make arms work right now
Fury slayer is just better than arms slayer
static knoll
I mean there's plenty of slayer arms at the top of the leaderboard for warrior
spice hornet
In like shuffle? The highest arms was 2206 yesterday in 3s
spice hornet
Shuffle rating is free
static knoll
top 50 arms in 3s is more slayer than colossus. Not to say one is better than the other, but clearly both work
maybe arms is weak, but between the two its not like youre throwing by choosing one or the other
novel crater
2380 for shuff isnt really that high rn. Most arms are just swapping colossus/slayer depending on the match up
static knoll
the top in ss is 2600, the point is that its a toss up!
novel crater
the top in ss is 2600, the point is that its a toss up!
Its not tho
static knoll
?
novel crater
One is better than the other just depends on what u are fighting
static knoll
Okay, so clearly colossus is not "the only way to make arms work right now"
novel crater
Usually colossus is better 80% of the time or more and u can make it work in situations were slayer would be technically better
Slayer arms is just squishy rn even at the top of the ladder
I qed both this week at 25+ mmr, colossus feels better vs most situations
static knoll
Sure, but 60% of the top of the arms warrior ladder is logging off as slayer. That's not to say its better, maybe most are more comfortable with it because its less buttons ,or theyve played it more, but clearly its competitive with colossus.
novel crater
Play whatever u wanna play
We’re just telling u what we’ve experienced “at the top of the ladder” and what we’ve talked about with the other wars there too. You can make slayer work in some situations , if you’re good enough
That should not stop you from having fun or playing whichever way you want to
spice hornet
@novel crater when santi gonna stop gatekeeping the single minded fury mountain thane build?
novel crater
<@477955200574029827> when santi gonna stop gatekeeping the single minded fury m...
LMAO
That build is top secret tech
urban skiff
<@477955200574029827> when santi gonna stop gatekeeping the single minded fury m...
did someone call?
spice hornet
I’m not lookin for meme enh builds but you’ll be the first person I ping when I do
spice hornet
Gigachad
green wharf
imma do a post in the official foruns
earnest thorn
man, crit demolish into crit MS is such a vibe
green wharf
asking for titan's grip to be a skill for all warriors, that also let you mog one handers
prot with titan's grip would be metal as f
urban skiff
why is this site also gatekeeping me from being on the leader board?
green wharf
why is this site also gatekeeping me from being on the leader board?
Not playing the cool races
not being horde
green wharf
I'll play horde again when horde gets KT Human
they dont want to give us ogres
furry bastards
urban skiff
Horde has so many fuzzy mascots they might as well be called the peppa pig gang
faint hemlock
for 4 piece with colossus do we use demolish earlier now instead of stacking it up for second colossus smash go?
modest marten
urban skiff
https://youtu.be/zxu4SgpSPtM?si=96m14JkizRQDk8GZ
nice to see i'm not the only one doing custom APLs for hekili
Although I mostly use hekili to have a dynamic action bar, and not as a rotation guide
fierce elm
Sure need Hekili to press 3 buttons correctly
urban skiff
hey warrior is hard
you know that's why I can't get more than 1300 rating
just high skill rotation i can't keep up with
i'm still 11th enh shaman EU
I was way higher
🙁
fierce elm
i'm still 11th enh shaman EU
washed
green wharf
i can kick a tree and 20 will fall
fierce elm
can we nerf x already daddy blizzard please
nimble jasper
Sure need Hekili to press 3 buttons correctly
will hekili tell me to 2x dr stormbolt
for the kill
urban skiff
Fun fact, hekili works excellently if you're enhancement shaman, because the creator is a lifetime enhancement player 🙃
If you're a warrior it tells you to always use OP over MS if you have a Opportunist proc
So I guess there's a "results may vary" disclaimer somewhere
EU Crate group is up on alliance side if anyone needs easy chill morning farm
hollow smelt
That should be your prio to press as Slayer Arms outside of burst
Thank you 💪
was 1 tapping arcane mages
hollow smelt
eh i got to 2k mmr got 1845 cr
will probably push more once i get weapon and rest of the gear
used these against every arcane lobby with shatering throw
fierce elm
lmao
violet fossil
they panic when you actually starting hitting them tho
fierce elm
They do
violet fossil
immediate bubble
fierce elm
And that works until like 2.5 lmao
green wharf
they panic when you actually starting hitting them tho
The problem is having 6 of then in each group that haves 10-12 players
annoying as shit
fickle forge
And that works until like 2.5 lmao
fickle forge
Seems like a 5-1 or so
unkempt wharf
Hi all after a little advise please
Essentially not done pvp before but I signed up yesterday and got moaned at first not using PvP gear.
How am I best to get it starting out ? I need to do PvP to get the gear but also need PvP gear to compete.
If I’m honest I’m mainly interested in the conquest transmog and the black and red version (unsure how to obtain this) however I did hear that someone got it within a day.
Any advise on best fastest way to go about earning conquest would be appreciated
hollow smelt
These ret paladins are gatekeeping me : (
play shattering throw into them with demolition talent and disarm
rets are easy to kill as arms
fierce elm
what the fuck am I being told right now
Do not play demo, do not play disarm, do not play shatter
fierce elm
Hi all after a little advise please
Essentially not done pvp before but I sign...
Battlegrounds for honor gear, sparks quest for bloody tokens which is warmode gear, conquest is gathered from everything for conquest gear which is the best
Red/black is 1800 in Blitz/3v3/2v2/Solo shuffle
As a ret main: do not play those talents
disarm maybe if you dont want storm
but demo+shatter are useless
fickle forge
Hi all after a little advise please
Essentially not done pvp before but I sign...
Unrated BGs and war mode content basically
Pick up the trinket set first so you get the 2p bonus
fickle forge
rets are easy to kill as arms
This is hella troll though
green wharf
This is hella troll though
they are balanced according to afro
fickle forge
they are balanced according to afro
Has he said that?
fierce elm
Have I said that
green wharf
Has he said that?
indirectly
fierce elm
Where lmao
green wharf
can we nerf x already daddy blizzard please
then why were you saying that when i said to nerf then
fierce elm
Im saying everyone sub 2.4k (ss and blitz) complaining about ret is garbage and should spend their time getting better at the game
green wharf
fierce elm
Which is a fair statement
green wharf
cause the problem is not that ret is op as fuck, and its just bad people complaining
therefore
they are balanced
fierce elm
What
green wharf
fierce elm
Why are you twisting my words lmao
fierce elm
Where did I say that
fickle forge
indirectly
So he didn't then
green wharf
Where did I say that
right here
fickle forge
Yeah I agree with that
green wharf
so is ret balanced or not
fickle forge
No
green wharf
fickle forge
But what happens when they will nerf ret eventually?
green wharf
fickle forge
You can just repeat that statement for UDK
And then next for boomkin
And then next for DH
fickle forge
Improve and get better until you hit a rating where the skill gap isn't big enough that you can put up anything
green wharf
If tis fucking op and need a nerf
fierce elm
Im saying all these dweebs that are at low ratings should get better
green wharf
why you need to call me garbage
fierce elm
and focus on something they can improve
green wharf
are you off the meds
fierce elm
what
fickle forge
There's no spec that's gatekeeping 2.4k
We have 2.4k people on every spec in the game almost
green wharf
There's no spec that's gatekeeping 2.4k
ok, lets play your game, when did i say that
fierce elm
lmao
green wharf
green wharf
i cant, im garbage remember
fierce elm
While keeping all brackets in mind and not changing them in PvE
I mean are you high rated?
green wharf
jesus, apparently people woke up with a dick up their ass, im off
fickle forge
ok, lets play your game, when did i say that
I haven't said you saying that, I'm agreeing with what Afro is saying
fierce elm
Im not tryna dog on people but at the same time my statement isnt wrong
If your only thing is ”nerf ret” and nothing else you do not fundamentally understand how to nerf ret
green wharf
I mean are you high rated?
how me being high rated or not, have anythign to do with the game balance and a spec needing a nerf or not
fierce elm
I didnt say that
green wharf
If your only thing is ”nerf ret” and nothing else you do not fundamentally under...
why do i need to, since 1.im garbage 2. its not me who is doing the nerfs? i dont work at blizzard
green wharf
you fucking know my rating you goober
fierce elm
I know what rating karg, meth and Zercher are
My statement is more about the general wave of people right now that have no idea what they are talking about spouting their opinions
While peaking at 1800
There is no meaningful discussion to be had because nobody who complains about ret knows what the issues with ret are
and are hardstuck in the ss mindset
green wharf
and of course since they are garbage they cant even dare to talk and, as you say, need to shut up and get good, besides they not being wrong about ret being op and needing a nerf
fierce elm
Brother you have been toxic since you joined
I am allowed to be toxic my guy
its a public discord
green wharf
Brother you have been toxic since you joined
well the chat wasnt nuked because of me once was it?
fierce elm
I am allowed to call you garbage and your takes garbage
green wharf
fierce elm
the same way you can call me garbage
fierce elm
well the chat wasnt nuked because of me once was it?
Nor was it because of me
Which everyone who was around back then can collaborate with
green wharf
Sure
fierce elm
So yes, I am fully allowed to call you garbage and tell you to get good
green wharf
my god i see 6 rets in a group of 10 people, can blizz just nerf then already
you are fucking garbage get gut no one is gatekeeping your rating
split helm
fierce elm
lmao
green wharf
that sums up this discussion
fathom cedar
Idk i feel paladin have big amount of damage but dont rlly struggle as warrior vs them like they have damage but not real kill windows except on full Crit moment like other class
fierce elm
Idk i feel paladin have big amount of damage but dont rlly struggle as warrior v...
Rets are absurd in SS, flat out
SS is a gamemode that rewards immunities and Ret has all of them
fathom cedar
I didint find one impressive around 2k3/4 mmr
fierce elm
Even without the damage buff ret would have been a top tier pick in SS due to how ret works
fathom cedar
Idk
fierce elm
But reallt, ret isnt holding anyone back and is half suffering from their rep being so high from the start
tribal wedge
ngl i struggle way more vs boomie than ret
fathom cedar
Arcane are more absurd or MM survival even boomy
split helm
What about mage ?
green wharf
I am not wrong
It not about being right or wrong, jesus Christ
When someone say "oh look, the weather is going to be bad" and you answer: "thats just rain you fuck go buy a umbrella you broke dickhead" it have fuck nothing to do with the first statement
fierce elm
At least Arms, fury remains the same versus both
hollow smelt
have you seen SV hunters
fierce elm
Mage specs however do demand a ton of knowledge that you need to brute force through
hollow smelt
split helm
Arcane is absurd
yeah I know I am just trolling hahaha but Arcane has a higher skill ceiling than Fire or Frost
fierce elm
On the chopping block right now MW/Boomie/Arcane/Ret/SV/BM/UHDK
which is a huge amount of specs
green wharf
arcane mage also balanced
split helm
@fierce elm I think you will like this name
green wharf
fierce elm
<@144859308557860864> I think you will like this name
this is #pvp buddy
I cant believe you went to the mage discord
wheat jay
<@144859308557860864> I think you will like this name
Wait, gothic girls
split helm
this is <#897055819475091456> buddy
this is everything channel dw
split helm
I cant believe you went to the mage discord
I went to all discords
split helm
Wait, gothic girls
Tak
urban skiff
this is <#897055819475091456> buddy
Deadlifting with pink nail polish
urban skiff
Paint them yourself
lavish quest
Buff ret
fierce elm
Why are you tagging me
fierce elm
oh wait you are still holding onto that conversation where you pretend to be on the blizzard balancing team
wheat jay
surely need more data to determine whether ret is good or not
north thicket
Indeed, more data 🤡
fierce elm
surely need more data to determine whether ret is good or not
The conversation was about prepatch
lavish quest
Ret MS when?
north thicket
They are blind so they need data
fierce elm
When it was on PTR
not live
Taurine is still holding onto that conversation because he thinks Blizzard should vibe buff/nerf
And be the only online game that can do that because x years of being relevant
As of why there are zero balancing changed overall, who knows lmao
north thicket
Don't overexaggerate
fierce elm
PvE and PvP isnt receiving anything
north thicket
'vibe' buff nerf
fierce elm
Don't overexaggerate
Dont tag me you freak
fierce elm
I am also not overexaggerating
you said they dont need data to understand if a buff is too much
and the only data they had was PvE data
where Ret was underpeforming by a fuckton
north thicket
by the end of December we will have enough data to be confident for a Ret tunning
fierce elm
It does need a nerf
But Taurine is holding onto old convos
Then he is gonna ask for Kargish nameplates
and his specific gladiusex txt file
north thicket
haha
fierce elm
Instead of letting go and moving on with his life where he was told ”Hey this is dumb no game can do this”
fierce elm
Why dont you make a guide lmao
north thicket
crazy
fierce elm
You clearly know everything
north thicket
haha
fierce elm
Weird
So you can comment on how to balance specs but cant make a simple guide?
Sorry, you can comment on how blizzard SHOULD balancw with no data
But cant tell people the most basic info?
Weird
urban skiff
Afro, my boy. Time to walk the dogs m8
fickle forge
Afro, my boy. Time to walk the dogs m8
fierce elm
What the FUCK does that even mean
I am at work and arguing with 1600 players is a way to pass the time brother
worldly oriole
I was up 200 points with ideal lobs then I got one shit one down 50 @fierce elm
rancid granite
I am at work and arguing with 1600 players is a way to pass the time brother
i was gonna say the usual r/worldofpvp poster but i remembered they cant even get 1600
fierce elm
Like I swear to god we are not inviting the r/worldofpvp mentality here
worldly oriole
ya I hit 2330 max then I got shit on in a lobby with big dam lol
fierce elm
And trying to act like experts when we cant even play the game
(Not aimed at bitching over balancing, ret is busted as fuck)
fierce elm
balance druids and dh moreso
Boomies also busted as fuck
DH is in a weird state where it is really good in 3s and 2s
but falls a bit in SS
rancid granite
2 early morning shuffles lost every match vs one and they just like doubled everyones dmg
fickle forge
This Kiggs quote is nearing its 5 year anniversary
rancid granite
dh vs surv who to focus
rancid granite
why rogue/mm
i need to make a dh to figure out what the hell their defensives are
always evasion and shit
fickle forge
why rogue/mm
DH only dies in a stun
rancid granite
lavish quest
thats like our anniversary
lavish quest
I do it anyways, fuck the powers that be
fierce elm
[3609thisisgay](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1052693832745095218.png?qualit...
we are
worldly oriole
what's FB? first blood
rancid granite
The lowest FB % belongs to DH
ohhhh interesting
fierce elm
Thats a lie, it belongs to prot paladin
fickle forge
crazy question
fickle forge
It's just who dies in a shuffle round
21% of the time it's DH who falls over
So once every 5th round
On average
fierce elm
Crazy that Outlaw even has data
worldly oriole
I fought fire mage outlaw in real threes yesterday felt aids
couldn't really touch mage as dh dk
fickle forge
How do you struggle as hero cleave into anything tbf
worldly oriole
lel
wheat jay
@fickle forge 3s today?
earnest thorn
is this a bad take, sharpen seems kinda like a waste playing colossus since storm gives your 50% heal redux on demolish for 10sec
and im pairing CS with demo most the time anyway
fickle forge
could do early lol
I am not home early
wheat jay
smh
fierce elm
is this a bad take, sharpen seems kinda like a waste playing colossus since stor...
You would want a 50% other times too
You would also drop storm into a whole lot of comps
Kargish ditching to gear his feral @wheat jay
crazy behavior tbh
wheat jay
real
earnest thorn
oh true, i should specify im just q'ing blitz rn
wheat jay
fking feral
bright kraken
i did not deserve this at all
wheat jay
mans got 0 comps with it
bright kraken
i disengaged into healer los twice on cage of carnage
fierce elm
Also Sharpen extra damage on ms
bright kraken
oh true, i should specify im just q'ing blitz rn
is it still a meme format
rancid granite
only if you care about the rating
fierce elm
is it still a meme format
run it nerd
bright kraken
is crazy work
is it really?
fierce elm
yes
bright kraken
i think this is crazier tbh
2.2k mmr already
like i didnt get sent to 1.6k yet? what?
rancid granite
Solo dps for Astral r1 blirz
what, the r1's usually duo q healers? guess it makes sense 6v8
lavish quest
Yeah my warrior started 2.2k mmr lol
earnest thorn
is it still a meme format
I mean yeah but astral warlord is kinda sick title
jovial torrent
my brand new pala alt started at 1900 mmr
i think like 4 of my first 6 matches had a dps go 0-6
fickle forge
is this a bad take, sharpen seems kinda like a waste playing colossus since stor...
It's not 50%
It's just regular MS
earnest thorn
Tooltip says it reduce healing 50% though
bright kraken
I mean yeah but astral warlord is kinda sick title
yeah thats what im saying
bright kraken
They didnt hard reset mmr either so its not crazy
yeah but im fucking ass at this game man
earnest thorn
It's not 50%
?
lavish quest
Pvp nerf
earnest thorn
It’s literally a pvp talent lol
rancid granite
which is weird cause its a pvp talent
rancid granite
:')
lavish quest
They kept it consistent with all other MS effects. All other MS effects are 50% nerfed to 25% in pvp
Yes sharpen is real 50%
For 4 seconds
jovial torrent
it sucks but honestly the games so bursty atm u kind of wana line it up with cs anyway
lavish quest
Yeah I never drop it
It and commander are almost always ran
Then the last is flex
fierce elm
what, the r1's usually duo q healers? guess it makes sense 6v8
yes
Faster queues
6v8 math chances
lavish quest
R1 is insane regardless
Gotta queue the entire last day of the season like you're a no life loser
Right Meth?
rancid granite
and night*
lavish quest
When I say day, I mean 24 hours, not daytime lol
rancid granite
lmao
midnight cloud
Hello everyone, I was trying to push rating on Blitz but somehow despite winning 3/5 games I only gain 9 rating and sometimes 0.
Am stuck at 1500+ rating, do you have any advice for me to try and climb to 2100?
I’m thinking if it’s possible to grind out the weapon enchant and hopefully the weapon Tmogs.
I manage to grind out 1800 on solo shuffle but think that perhaps Blitz will be easier since I’m more of a Pver
jovial torrent
what does ur mmr say at the end, if you keep playing u will get a winstreak that will increase mmr so much that u start gettin more points
midnight cloud
Ahhh I see
jovial torrent
are u playing fury or arms
midnight cloud
My MMR is 1580+
Lost some games where I was trying hard to do objectives but pple fighting on roads
jovial torrent
war honestly is just there to win teamfights and def
midnight cloud
I see
jovial torrent
just head mid and blast enemy healer/squishies with as much dmg as u can while aoeing
frank knoll
When I say day, I mean 24 hours, not daytime lol
Something tells me that some of these dudes abuse stims
midnight cloud
Thanks Choppah
frank knoll
Let me down some Vivance and queue for 23 hours
midnight cloud
I hope it’s still possible to at least get the weapon enchant
midnight cloud
are u playing fury or arms
Is Arms ok or I should swap?
I follow the pins guide so far and it’s great
earnest thorn
There’s some decent video guides that break down basic tactics for each blitz map and what each spec should do in an ideal setting. Low mmr blitz is chaos though
midnight cloud
There’s some decent video guides that break down basic tactics for each blitz ma...
Okay, thank u Rowtron
earnest thorn
Arms is fine in blitz don’t worry about which spec just play the one you perform best on
midnight cloud
Yea, I was trying so hard to get pple to do objectives
midnight cloud
Arms is fine in blitz don’t worry about which spec just play the one you perform...
Okay, thank u
frank knoll
There’s some decent video guides that break down basic tactics for each blitz ma...
Hansol has some good stuff on his YouTube
It’s geared toward mage gameplay but the fundamentals are there
midnight cloud
Hansol has some good stuff on his YouTube
It’s geared toward mage gameplay but t...
I can search for Hansol on YouTube?
earnest thorn
Yeah it’s helpful for anyone just to know basic winning strats for each map
midnight cloud
Okay, thank u!
earnest thorn
I can search for Hansol on YouTube?
Yea. Or just bg blitz guide lol
midnight cloud
Really appreciate the sharings
midnight cloud
Yea. Or just bg blitz guide lol
Kk
earnest thorn
Only 1950 for weapon illusion that’s easy
jovial torrent
u gotta push for 2100 atleast!
lavish quest
Something tells me that some of these dudes abuse stims
Supplied to them by the Cabal
jovial torrent
nice red weps
midnight cloud
Only 1950 for weapon illusion that’s easy
Ive never ever gone higher than 1800, so im hoping i can be good enough to reach 2100 eventually
earnest thorn
The red weapons are a must lol
midnight cloud
I was lucky to hit 1800 yesterday on my solo shuffle
midnight cloud
The red weapons are a must lol
Yup!!! I’m trying to get them
lavish quest
Figured they'd nerf ret before I return home lmao
midnight cloud
Was so happy I could get the armor Tmog
jovial torrent
below 2400 honestly just dont overthink it and mash as much dps and cc as u can in the team fight, dont let ppl cap with ur tclap/bladestorm, try return flags if u see it mid map but mostly def cus ur bad at chasing
midnight cloud
Btw, does racial impact me trying to hit 2100?
midnight cloud
below 2400 honestly just dont overthink it and mash as much dps and cc as u can ...
Got it
midnight cloud
below 2400 honestly just dont overthink it and mash as much dps and cc as u can ...
U can cap a node during Bladestorm?!
Wow I had no idea
lavish quest
Btw, does racial impact me trying to hit 2100?
Technically, but no
jovial torrent
nono i mean ur dmg from bladestorm stops enemies capping it
lavish quest
You can hit 2400 as any race
jovial torrent
u would be suprised how many times u can randomly just steal a base or it gets stolen cus noone aoe's the flag
jovial torrent
its pretty funny just getting ur model right inside the flag and going for it, its usually feral druids/palas who are obsessed with stopping u but others let it slip by
fickle forge
Btw, does racial impact me trying to hit 2100?
You can play PvE geared prot to 2100
BGB is very free if you can do your rotation
sharp meteor
Btw, does racial impact me trying to hit 2100?
Not really, no.
You will sometimes fall behind in pressure or lose a game off racial but like 8000 things you could've also done so eh.
sharp meteor
You can play PvE geared prot to 2100
As long as you have medallion somewhere you can prob play anything to 2400 with scuffo gear.
Blitz mmr. 
midnight cloud
Technically, but no
Thank you Leland