pvp

[copper fox]

Sup just played with a 0-6 arms

How sick

4-2 me because this moron can’t play

[wheat jay]

lmao had the same yesterday

arms struggling in brain department

[urban skiff]

Sounds like you're in my MMR range

I wouldn't be too proud of that

[copper fox]

On this warr I am yea it’s fresh

Guy goes

“I’m never getting 1800”

“Fuck this game”

lol

Arms going 0-6 all over the ladder tho

It’s trash

[worldly oriole]

I quit My Job For Rival II On Day One

[modest shadow]

LOL I can totally understand that. Getting into PvP is fuckin’ weird (at least for me). Can’t wait to go into solo shuffle or arenas and get dumpstered.

I think I can at least do just enough damage and stuns to not be a complete waste. We’ll see.

Feel like I’m just pressing shit

[copper fox]

Tbh he just wasn’t doing enough damage

I was doing everything else so all he had to do was more dmg

And I could have gotten him 2 wins

But we were up against ret hpal dh and rsham so he just got beat

[worldly oriole]

seems like you had a shit lob @copper fox

[copper fox]

I didn’t go 0-6 the lobby was fine for me dawg

The arms did

[modest shadow]

I’m honestly just pretending this shit is PvE

[worldly oriole]

so increase the amount of people like that and welcome to my bracket

[copper fox]

That works for a little

[modest shadow]

I feel like I’m doing good damage but I haven’t gone into ranked yet. Just following normal prios and just stunning shit idk lmao

[copper fox]

Are you fully geared

[modest shadow]

Pve wise? Yeah. Got some other pvp stuff like trinkets and other gear to scale to 710?

So I’m running 4p and then PvP stuff gear

[copper fox]

Bruh idc about pve

[modest shadow]

Idk if that’s optimal

[copper fox]

Nah it’s real bad

You need to get conquest stuff

And your weapons

You should probably just q

Crate farm

[urban skiff]

tell him about skyhold, dont skyhold him back

[copper fox]

Or something

[copper fox]

I should have lol

[modest shadow]

So my 720 wep I use doesn’t scale to pvp? It has to have the (whatever ilvl in pvp) on the gear? So I craft an Algari one?

I’ll go watch some videos

lol

[copper fox]

No it does it’s just 720

@ 2500 conq points you get free weapons

Don’t craft anything

[modest shadow]

Yeah ima just game and watch a few guides and not really think too much tbh

[copper fox]

You should look through our pins

It’ll guide tou

You

Through the gearing, talents etc

[rancid granite]

pve will get you 2400 in ss at least lol

[copper fox]

@modest shadow

[lone tundra]

Your 720 is fine til u get the free one. Better than honor

[rancid granite]

meth's new apprentice nait nozz

[copper fox]

Nozz is chill af

He’s arms tho

[rancid granite]

pve really is the best place to start though; the aspect of zug, dps, dmg, is the absolute fundamental

[copper fox]

Can’t have an arms apprentice

[rancid granite]

i been getting a few arms+fury teams

every game

"ignore arms, focus fury"

ez win

[fierce elm]

must have been a bad lobby

[urban skiff]

which is better arms or fury

[rancid granite]

prot

[worldly oriole]

I'm proudly wearing my 1500 m+ title

[modest shadow]

I play fury if told to play fury

[spice hornet]

When are the fury warrior Gods in here gonna stop gatekeeping the SMF Thane build? plz n ty

[modest shadow]

or prot

warr is warr

arms is just my home

my cozy shit show of a home

[wheat jay]

doest even need pinning

cuz everyone knows already

[rancid granite]

i thought same thing but trust fury isnt really much different at all; totally better atm

instead of mashing MS you mash rampage

the best difference is death wish is best talent in game

[worldly oriole]

Fuark yeah insta pop solo on my balance in greens

shit i qued heals

smh lol

[worldly oriole]

Bliss Announce New Demon Slayer Spec

[frank knoll]

Still undefeated in Blitz
Best BG healer of all time

Best FC of all time
If there was a fantasy Bg draft I’d be a first round pick
LETS GOOO BABYYYY

[worldly oriole]

was thinking

last night how much more fun it was doing actual rbgs

than sitting 20min blitz que

[fierce elm]

naa thats crazy

[sharp meteor]

rbgs are sitting there for an hour trying to find people

[jovial torrent]

the real rbg experience, can you shot call? can you shot call? can you shot call? sry we already have war/dk

[green wharf]

the game is fine

[sharp meteor]

? that was always the case

outside of like sinful

[green wharf]

it was sarcasm, game is actually not fine if there is so few players

bliz splitting the playerbase and lack of pvp attention lead to that

[sharp meteor]

There has never really been fixing the big fish small pond thing about rbgs because 10v10 is too hard logistically.

[copper fox]

Based on the quality of rbgs these days

We could form 10 here with 6 warriors and

Get hero

Ngl

[worldly oriole]

That Would Be Bodacious

[jovial torrent]

i think blitz is doing a pretty good job, problem is theres not really any reason to q it above 2100 , unless u want cape tabard, the glow is easier to get from m+ and it was released at a time where pvp was already dieing

[rancid granite]

or unless u just want to pvp an dplay video games

[elfin surge]

you guys see the undisrupted gladiator title

[jovial torrent]

most ppl would rather play games where they can login and play, not grind a conq set, enchants, wait for timegated gear cap ect

[elfin surge]

undisputed

sorry i leaked next seasons

[jovial torrent]

is that the classic one for all 3 bracket

[elfin surge]

yeah lol

[jovial torrent]

its cool but i dont think i could bring myself to suffer through 2v2

[sharp meteor]

missin sinful where u could easily be hero mmr with 4 warriors

only playing on mondays to finish vaults

[elfin surge]

rbgs are more active on mop

[jovial torrent]

i would be playing but im trying to figure out what gear to craft for lightsmith, do i worry that they buff the lightsmith 2/4 set which noone uses

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-benedict-cumberbatch-sherlocked-sherlock-holmes-gif-7521704

[copper fox]

Rbgs are 2 teams being dodged regularly on mop

The rest of the team are like comp stomp

[sharp meteor]

ya always like

group or two of big peoples

then everybody else fighting for crumbs

[copper fox]

You cap a flag or win BS the team goes next

[elfin surge]

Yeah its great

[copper fox]

Yea bro active

ACTIVE

[elfin surge]

Thats how rbgs have always been

one big team everyone dodges

[sharp meteor]

ya which is why they're terrible and deserve to die

[green wharf]

should we try

[sharp meteor]

[green wharf]

warrior discord pvp challenge

[copper fox]

Yea rbgs are ass

[sharp meteor]

and die they did

[copper fox]

After cata and mop

[elfin surge]

They made it so you can q into teams 1000 mmr below you if you sit a long enough queue

[copper fox]

Once papichulo got on the scene he killed it

[green wharf]

the only discord to do that

[cosmic field]

lol

[copper fox]

This guy

He has 3 r1 titles from the same win trading 5s team

I’m surprised he even surfaces

[worldly oriole]

My K/d Ratio In Real 3s 75%

[elfin surge]

I snitched on you

[copper fox]

You should be on kennies side

[rancid granite]

LOL

[copper fox]

LOL

[spice hornet]

Lmfao

[wheat jay]

can one take kennie's side?

he's prot

vulpera

furry

like, i want to but its hard

[jovial torrent]

also a forum poster arrest this man

[wheat jay]

imagine being a forum poster

like cmon man

[fierce elm]

also a REDDIT poster

[violet fossil]

no

[grizzled anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-dumb-duh-gif-13669009

[sharp meteor]

gay furry tank player vs non binary 2k wintrader

[grizzled anvil]

Damn that’s a hard call, I think the tank player takes the edge over wintrading though

But idk enough context

[fierce elm]

Kennie doesn't make random tier lists

So Kennie wins

[wheat jay]

mmmmm

both depsicable

absolute dogs

irl and ingame

[frank knoll]

He’s got a podcast about WoW PvP lol

They were in here trying get someone on to talk about Arms warrior a while ago

[lyric violet]

should i be getting 4 piece this week if possible?\

i can buy warmonger piece and convert to tier then use conquest to buy the piece to convert pve to 723?

[fierce elm]

p i n s

if you want to go that route that is up to you

[lyric violet]

sorryyyy thank you

[rancid granite]

don't apologize to him

[fierce elm]

apologize to me again

[lyric violet]

alright

fuck you

thanks

i'll ask another pinned question next week

see ya then

[copper fox]

Anyone ?

[fierce elm]

Anyway cya later

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/jk-simmons-laugh-laughing-omegalul-gif-16951801518082312620

what thread is this

i want to know now

[green wharf]

where you going

[green wharf]

are you talking about artji, you or the druid

[sharp meteor]

[buoyant chasm]

guys the stats pinned for fury are before or after the pvp stats boost?

[fierce elm]

after

never before

[buoyant chasm]

so actually ive got 31% cele 39% mast 37% vers pvp boosted stats, looks like ive got very very low mast

[green wharf]

Your silence is deafening

perfect for arms, bad for fury ye

[lavish quest]

[copper fox]

Vers and haste too high imo

Mast way too low

[fierce elm]

Cele too high

[copper fox]

Too much Celery

[worldly oriole]

Too Much Celery*

[urban skiff]

what healer/dps comp to bring into blitz?

No ranged

[rancid granite]

rogue druid

[woven depot]

is colo or slayer easier for arms

[fierce elm]

try it out

[spice hornet]

why exactly did they leave hallowed ground in for ret?

they have freedom, horse, and do all their damage from ranged?

[green wharf]

they needed

[worldly oriole]

Damn honor geared a boomie was a mistake i think

[sharp meteor]

Full bis takes one afternoon of crates and balance is really good so.

[rancid granite]

crates

[abstract mountain]

colo is much more one shot comp imo

stack for colo and nuke with ur premade

[spice hornet]

all, I was not paying attention and have bricked warrior #3 (out of 4). I accidentally bought a belt instead of legs and made it tier

[abstract mountain]

slayer got sustain dmg

[spice hornet]

dont these kind of look like pants

[sharp meteor]

I've never seen somebody tier belt by mistake.

[spice hornet]

now you have

[sharp meteor]

At least the stats are good.

And you only need 2pc for Fury Slayer, right, so

[spice hornet]

it is salvageable

@sharp meteor have you played arms at all? slayer in particular

jus feels so bad

[sharp meteor]

nah

only few slayer fury games

[jovial torrent]

i cant wait for conquest to uncap tbh, then i dont have to worry about gear order and mixing in pve stuff

[spice hornet]

yeah dont miss doing pve and pvp and having to split like that

[sharp meteor]

i like waiting for conq to be uncapped cos by then we've had like 3 tuning passes

and the game is like nearing playability

[copper fox]

Wait those stats are solid

lol

Might not even be bricked just a little behind

I kinda like the belt

[sharp meteor]

Ya idk you have 1 charge natty then another from 1600

so u have 2pc insta

[copper fox]

Depending on end season stats

[sharp meteor]

and thats all uneed for slayo

[copper fox]

Yea

[sharp meteor]

like u need bit of matery and haste anyways

vendo gear is like

so much vers omg

and vers is SO bad for output

[copper fox]

Yea there’s going to be too much vers anyway I’m actually going to do that for my belt too

Good call @spice hornet

[green wharf]

whats good % for verst

both specs

feels like anything below 30% you die like paper

[copper fox]

I like 28-30

[wheat jay]

bro

[spice hornet]

hell yeah

[wheat jay]

WTF IS GOING ON

???????????????????????????????

like

i did win one of those

but wtf is going on xD

is this a joke or sth xD?

[copper fox]

Cowwithspell

They decided not to heal you

Only against you

Tbh from meter it looks like the boomy was doing a good job at locking the healer down

But idk

That’s all I got

[wheat jay]

boomy does 0 dmg lol

bro xD

these games are something else hahaha

monk missing cocoon

and so on

[copper fox]

What mmr is this

Sounds like my 1800 games this morning

[green wharf]

the beauty of shuffle

you only know when you experience yourself

[wheat jay]

near 2k xD

bro they suck ahhaha

legit

at least im pumping

im happy

yep

2-4 XD

only doing 200mil more than others hahahhahaha

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/portal2-co-op-skill-issue-gif-27482480

[copper fox]

Back to back 6-0s

Fury too good

[worldly oriole]

Sounds Like Ideal Lobs To Me

Dunno If Its The Spec Or Not

[copper fox]

The DH Only Won With Me

Shit Lob For Him

[wheat jay]

okay, i wont be playing this game sadly

yeeeeeeeeeeee

fuck me i guess lmao

nvm

[urban skiff]

reroll to something good like DH

[wheat jay]

i am dh

[north thicket]

Kargish, can you summarize what are the must-tunnel targets this seasons?
Comp-dependent you will say but let's make it simple

[spice hornet]

@copper fox Did I just run into Zercher and his wife in 2s? @sharp meteor

[copper fox]

Yes

That’s them

Smurfing on Na

[spice hornet]

The numbers looked right

[fickle forge]

MM, boomy, ret, SP and feral

Prob more

[copper fox]

Destro

[fickle forge]

Destro

[copper fox]

Destro # 1 lol

[fickle forge]

I see 0 locks though

But I'd train any lock spec

Demo lowest prio

[copper fox]

Too many Spell bops rn

[north thicket]

thanks, so it's like destro > mm > chicken/feral > ret > sp or?

[copper fox]

Training demo is sometimes bait

Depending on second

[fickle forge]

It's fully comp dependant

[copper fox]

Unless there’s a destro

That’s not comp dependent

[north thicket]

would you tunnel another war?

or dk

[fickle forge]

Yeah

I tunnel warrior into shit like WMP

[copper fox]

Love sitting on DKs and shooting the 1s

[urban skiff]

she don't play holy

and I thought it was our wife now

[copper fox]

It is our wife

[wheat jay]

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

ahhahahahahahahaha

i oneshot monk

lmao

kicked him so he couldnt coocoon, had full cds, had demon soul xD

[urban skiff]

she says you don't pay or lay pipe so at most you're our son now

[wheat jay]

poor meth

[copper fox]

wtf

[urban skiff]

I said empty the fucking garbage bin or you get the belt again

And if you moan again we're shipping you off to military school

mother is disappointed

[copper fox]

Well too bad I’m artistic and gay

Good job

[urban skiff]

Oh ok

have another rainbow, son

[copper fox]

Who’s the other

[urban skiff]

She says we're back to our wife now

so this is awkward son

[copper fox]

[urban skiff]

We may be drinking

[worldly oriole]

I'm Practicing For Bliss Con In My Shuffles

This Lob Seems Ideal we'll See Though

[copper fox]

Better Six Oh It Now

Send SS

[copper fox]

I meant of your 6-0 but I’ll take this too

[urban skiff]

is the enhancement using dogs and stacking haste?

what is wrong with these people?

I'm out here deleting and they're getting 2400 with a mythic+ / raid build

[worldly oriole]

WON 2nd round

[copper fox]

Ngl… Ronnie is stacking haste

So

SOOOO

[urban skiff]

He's garbage then

[worldly oriole]

I wouldve 6-0 but the hpriest let me die in angel

happens ig

i coulda darked or nether

[urban skiff]

repair gear m8

[worldly oriole]

lol i actually dont have

gold

ive got 70g repair is 470

[copper fox]

Yep the worst

[copper fox]

Rip

Btw just want you furrys to know

You’re all sleeping on BI

Said it last season. Saying it again. Use it against DKs or games you’re # 1 target

[sharp meteor]

Eh?

[copper fox]

In ss ofc

Because of this discord

My phone changes fury to furry automatically

It’s actually crazy what you have all done

[worldly oriole]

yall are hacking fr

[rancid granite]

thought you were talking about vulpera racial

😂

[copper fox]

What’s the racial called

[sharp meteor]

Ik was just asking what you meant by BI

[copper fox]

oh

[sharp meteor]

foxo racial is just bag of tricks which is like a 10k hit

that slows a ton

[copper fox]

Bitter immunity

[sharp meteor]

oooo

ya i havent played that since like

some time in df to rip the 100% crit curse off

[spice hornet]

How come locks don’t rlly play amp curse anymore

Too many honk weakauras?

[urban skiff]

maybe they don't actually matter much

100% crit chance nerf vs players with 5% crit chance

big brain play lol

[frank knoll]

Bro the world quests in the new zone reward like 1k gold in war mode

[spice hornet]

Tuning predictions tonight?

Arms buff but it’ll be slam and thunder roar and rend

[worldly oriole]

about to hit some wq then i guess @frank knoll

[limber relic]

"execute damage increased by 10%"

[tribal wedge]

amrs wont be touched

[sharp meteor]

i feel like warr gets mostly left alone

prot gonna get 5% dmg nerf cos of pve

ret nerf pres 4pc nerf rsham bigggg nerf

[spice hornet]

Very likely

What is pres 4 set like

[sharp meteor]

arcane gets shot dead

and all the mages go back frost

enh prob gets ascend nerf

mm gets nerf

[spice hornet]

I’m loving these, hope they come true

Ret needs its head blown off

[sharp meteor]

considerable pve disc buff

that prob carries over to pvp in some capacity

[worldly oriole]

Should I gear rsham

[frank knoll]

It’s always slam
Remember in DF where the were pushing the hell outta slam

[worldly oriole]

someone told me ret got gutted

[frank knoll]

[worldly oriole]

they posted it on bnet status

[undone wraith]

So I switched to slayer arms from colossus arms halfway thru last season but didn’t tweak much am I dumb for having bleed talents still just ran thru the pinned arms build. Mostly playing rbgs & blitz tho

[frank knoll]

“Skullsplitter damage increased by 30%”
“Rend and Deep wound damage increased by 8%”
“We wanted to give arms warrior players access to a wider variety of playstyles while still allowing them to remain competitive”

[frank knoll]

Good
Right now Rsham just Afks in keys and tops everyone with totems

[sharp meteor]

ya rsham went from heals taht did nothing

to heals that do everything and its like aight

u can dial it back a bit

[spice hornet]

Every rsham heal is a lay on hands and they don’t go oom

So funny rsham ends up being meh mid to late season and nobody plays it

Then the second a new season starts it’s everywhere

And then it’s back into hiding

[frank knoll]

MW is sleeper in keys
I basically just do my damage rotation and do 2B healing while never getting close to even halfway oom

[sharp meteor]

i mean mw in keys usually aight with phys compo

mw might get nerfs but maybe they also want it to be like

the aggressive dmg healer

[worldly oriole]

damn bruh 25 min que

[nocturne marsh]

How valuable is slayer 4 piece in BGs, worth trading any ilvl for PvE pieces to hit bonus or is it only good for arena where I’m stuck on someone

[sharp meteor]

seems legit terrible

cos reap is so nerfed

on top of it only bein half of that

[copper fox]

Fury 10% rampage dmg inc

[nocturne marsh]

Gotcha that’s what I thought, I won’t bother then ty

[copper fox]

WARRIOR RALLYING CRY WILL NOW PROPERLY FUCKING WORK

[rancid granite]

ok grandma lets get you to bed

[frank knoll]

Rampage already does like 5-7 mil lol
Why would the buff it

[sharp meteor]

cos fury has to do the most single target or its unplayable unironically

[frank knoll]

Ouch

I forsee WW buffs

[wheat jay]

Cap

Sadly fury is rhe same as arms gameplay wise since df

Play whichever does more dmg

Done xD

[spice hornet]

i like how bt healign is still nerfed to this day cos of some degenerate 2 button bloodthirst build back in DF

like look at DH leech right now

[sharp meteor]

LOL right

[spice hornet]

like what

[sharp meteor]

and dh still has 80% blur on dodge

cos it was bugged and gave 20% in sl

so they fixed it twice by mistake

[spice hornet]

love it

[sharp meteor]

now its 80%

[spice hornet]

also what the hell is feint man

how is that still the way it is

with all that uptime

also so many things rip spell reflect off

instantly

[sharp meteor]

focusin lens knock feint off

rogue feints a go cos it can be up almost perma

takes 80% reduced dmg

woot

[spice hornet]

yep

what happened in EU for DF s3/s4 it looks like no warrs got r1 over there those seasons in 3s?

[lavish quest]

Do you have something to confess?

[sharp meteor]

[copper fox]

I blame mages

[lavish quest]

My man

[sharp meteor]

wish gnome wasnt so good

wish my racial did 800% more dmg

[lavish quest]

Wish tmorph wasn't bannable

[copper fox]

How can it be when streamers use it

Srs

[lavish quest]

You probably highly unlikely to be banned for it

But it is a valid reason for them to ban you

[copper fox]

I use to use it

Long time ago

Back in my day

[sharp meteor]

it isnt

like "legally" or "technically" it is

but in practice nah

[wheat jay]

I'm fairly sure its not

[sharp meteor]

ya every dh says that

cos similar to normal hunters

they dont know what their own kit does

[lavish quest]

What did I say you furry rat?

[wheat jay]

I dunno just asked in dh discord

Ill let you know if they answer

[sharp meteor]

?

[wheat jay]

About the blur

[sharp meteor]

ya but like

how would they know

most of them are stupid and bad

[wheat jay]

Cuz I'm fairly sure the bug is old news

[sharp meteor]

worked when i checked a week ago

[wheat jay]

Cuz they play dh, and theres plenty of r1s in that discord?

[sharp meteor]

the real dhs gonna know or gaslight ya

[wheat jay]

Do you go to warlock discord to ask about fury warrior?

[lavish quest]

Yes

[wheat jay]

Lmao

If you need dh knowledge, you go to dh discord

[lavish quest]

I wanna know what kind of bullshit reasons they come up with for warrior being op

[sharp meteor]

but ye w/e variant of morph software is pretty safe

the 1 time they banned people was for the launcher

[lavish quest]

Even tho I'm pretty sure they got more armor than we do

[sharp meteor]

in sinful

[wheat jay]

?

Oh warlocks?

[lavish quest]

Yes warlocks

[wheat jay]

Who has more armor

Absolute tank relying on heavy plated armor

[lavish quest]

Emo twink or iron clad gigachad?

[wheat jay]

Or skinny nerd in a bathrobe

@fickle forge yo, we checked it some time ago

[lavish quest]

They do all this work to raise clothies armors, but when are they going to raise melees magic resist?

[wheat jay]

Some time being an expansion ago or longer

Was blur still bugged when we checked?

Cuz iirc it wasn't

[wheat jay]

Nah that's unbalanced

Casters need their 10mil casts to win

[jovial torrent]

is it tonight we find out changes or like mid day tomorrow

i feel like theres not guna be that many changes outside of barrage dmg and monks dmg, healers will probably get 5% buff for the low ones 5% nerf for the represented

[lavish quest]

Normally would know by now right?

[rancid granite]

being rogue and not being night elf feels so much worse than not being gnome 😭

[sharp meteor]

sub seems aight

assa needs nelf i feel

[jovial torrent]

it should have been changed ages ago to be somthing that doesnt interact with rogue stealth

[wheat jay]

Ret nerfs?

Saw this on reddit

Funni ret

[rancid granite]

ya sub is fine but assa op rn so im inclined to play it til i realize im HUMAN and just give up and go back

[lavish quest]

Just learn how to kill ret

blizard

[wheat jay]

Afro gave me a list

Was very long

[jovial torrent]

healing against rets is pretty chill tbh, very obvious when dmg is about to roll out, can searing glare them every other go

now healing boomy dk mage destro hunter games, that stresses me tf out

[sharp meteor]

6 million hammer into another 6 million hammer

woot

[wheat jay]

4mil normally

Cuz tank

Ret busted

[jovial torrent]

better than the 9m barrages and black arrows flying around

i think i need to find a way to add dispellable stuff back in a more readable way, my non cc dispels are really small and i should probs be spam dispelling moonfire

[sharp meteor]

hm

[worldly oriole]

Bout to eat a caffeine tablet

wash it down with coffee

[sharp meteor]

[rancid granite]

inc stomachache

[worldly oriole]

I'm Attuned

[copper fox]

Pop stims, press q

It’s the way

The whey

[rancid granite]

gotta get r1 somehow

[copper fox]

[worldly oriole]

This Lob Is 50/50

[rancid granite]

what you do with pvp talents; just swap enduring rage / disarm out only?

[copper fox]

Yea or demo

I run demo into mw monks and locks

Wrecking with any CD popped auto pops lock and almost auto pops mw

[rancid granite]

oh right we use wrecking throw cuz scaling with mastery etc

[copper fox]

It’s also just a 1 million throw without using it for shields

I’ve gotten so many kills

[spice hornet]

it hits that hard on non-shields? lol

[sharp meteor]

ya the shield mod isnt very high

base dmg is

and scales off fury mastery

[spice hornet]

@copper fox high shuffle mmr experience as a fury warrior, mix of:
double warrior lobby
Warrior/rogue
assa/boomy/dev/rets/hpal/mage

fun times

[sharp meteor]

so u just ding somebody for a million and a half natty

[copper fox]

Yep that’s basically it. + a hunter here and there

[copper fox]

Natty lmfao

[sharp meteor]

used to do no dmg and then 500% more to shields

now its like giga and 150%? more

or osmething

[copper fox]

Yea ngl I like it this way more

I use the natty throw all day

When do changes drop

Soon right

[sharp meteor]

hopefully

sometimes they lil late

[spice hornet]

usually around this hour at the latest

there they are

arms buffs

[sharp meteor]

fake i dont see 10% prot nerf for pve

[spice hornet]

is prot better than veng?

i thought veng was a menace all expac

[earnest thorn]

Sir this is the pvp channel

[sharp meteor]

I'm talkin pvp so

and ya veng was good in dungeons for a while

pvp tuning can oddly overlap with pve tuning

[fickle forge]

We got notes?

[sharp meteor]

ya they just got taken down cos the rend buff was a typo it was meant to be 3%

[fickle forge]

You know it's fake when they didn't nerf Spear again

[boreal veldt]

spear now has a cast time to reflect it's start up

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-nnooo-no-nope-never-gif-16214908

[boreal veldt]

also they better not "buff" rend yet still not address that slayer's strike still never triggers off of it

[green wharf]

You know you are jinxing right

cause they might very well do this

the shattering throw already is a cringe lame casting

[sharp meteor]

rend does do too little dmg

partially cos u can apply with clap

[boreal veldt]

lmfao get f**ked slayer

i mena

mean

[green wharf]

thats good

[boreal veldt]

my b

[green wharf]

cause i dont want to spec into that

when slam or MS can apply rend normally we can talk about it

[boreal veldt]

bro if one of our capstones in arms was "ms applys rend" already better than our other choices

[fickle forge]

There's no difference between pressing Slam or Rend though

[boreal veldt]

correct

[hot solstice]

Wdym? Slam can do 2.5mil

[boreal veldt]

in fact, a better capstone would be, MS has a 50% chance to Slam

[hot solstice]

Just give us mortal combo

[jovial torrent]

ms chance to cast slam . slam chance to cast slam, 2h enhance warriors

[hot solstice]

Unnerf unhinged but it can’t consume op stacks

[boreal veldt]

cant while slayer exists

arms can only have one "opportunity strike" situation at a time

[hot solstice]

Colo need some synergy with csmash

Makes sense

[green wharf]

i remember we had trauma

execute did a bleed

and the more you execute more the guy bleed

better sienrgy than rend

[hot solstice]

Change spear to have shorter cd but work as vortex that does damage

[boreal veldt]

honestly, colo 4set is a fantastic change that might get baked in

hitting a big MS after demo has been our execute since S1

[hot solstice]

More like crit casino

[boreal veldt]

build more crit coward

don't listen to me

i'm cursed

[hot solstice]

Ye that one lock waiting to go imp curse

[rancid granite]

slam is amazing ?_?

just like colossus spear

[boreal veldt]

for colo i still press slam over exe unless it's sudden d

[green wharf]

cursed gameplay

[twin flame]

hi guys sorry to bother, just got into warrpvp this szn and was wondering why some ppl lean more towards haste and others towards mastery

as arms*

same hero talents (slayer) and 2p but still different stat prio

[boreal veldt]

mastery is still great for arms, but also allows the fury pivot

[twin flame]

oh i see so if i wanted to flex to fury at some moment i could just commit mastery then and still not be trolling stats-wise

[boreal veldt]

yeah you're not going to do terrible as arms if you commit to mast

that being said, haste should still be above 18%

[green wharf]

20%

[boreal veldt]

i'll fight you zyeg

lucky i didn't tell him to run crit

[twin flame]

aight, thank u so much! ❤️

[twin flame]

id do it just for u

[boreal veldt]

❤️

CAN WE PIN THAT

[twin flame]

we sitting here atm tho

[hot solstice]

Get those cursed mastery chants

Should be below 0

[boreal veldt]

you're fine bud lmfao, i just run weird shit and get 2.4 for the f**k of it

crit is absolutely the worst stat to run

but i have fun with it

[twin flame]

i will follow ur teachings once i reach 2,1k 🫡

[boreal veldt]

don't

@fickle forge help this man

[green wharf]

i forgor it was still with a Z

i changed for a gag

[boreal veldt]

lmao

[leaden delta]

Played Blitz for the first time last season on Elemental Shaman and made it to 2595. I want to try some Arms warrior this season, but a bit unsure of my role or strengths in BG. Am I looking to be AOE pressure with spreading rend, Bladestorm damage/healing debuff? Am I sitting on healers? Kind of bouncing back and forth in my head with "don't overcomplicate this" and "try to be as effective as you can for your team"

[sharp meteor]

You just hit what you safely can pressure in the fight mid.

On tp/wsg you generally play defense, but I guess it depends

ab/dw you usually just spin mid with a haeler

prio targets gonna be stuff like locks

[leaden delta]

Alright cool. Appreciate your time ❤️ @sharp meteor

[sharp meteor]

[leaden delta]

I dont do this if tanks get put in, yea? I feel like the answer is obvious but never hurts to ask

[sharp meteor]

Depends on the tank

just gotta see what they wanna do

[leaden delta]

Alright, ty 🙂

[rancid granite]

what do you do on the cart map just spin lava whole time or what

that bg confuses me

[sharp meteor]

lava is the teamfight cart

so usually there on warr ya

[rancid granite]

Ic Ic

[copper fox]

Swing at casters

Shockwave melee on cd off your casters

[rancid granite]

always feels odd I feel way more useful on rogue just sniping shit every bg

[copper fox]

Yes rogue is useful

Most high rated lobbies don’t even have a warr

[rancid granite]

tho pocket healer and death wish stomps

[copper fox]

It does

Need an insane healer in blitz to make that work tho against decent players

[high fern]

guys if i varnish my pve gear is it perma pvp only?

[sharp meteor]

?

It'll scale up in pvp combat, ya.

Idk what you mean by "pvp only".

[green wharf]

varnish?

[boreal veldt]

it just adds pvp ilvl, it doesn't take anything away from pve ilvl

[leaden delta]

It will keep its PVE track/item level. It just enables the PVP scaling for PvP

[honest dew]

is the pin true, fury is actually better than arms?

[green wharf]

by a small margin apparently

[boreal veldt]

propaganda by big fury corp

[urban skiff]

heads up for anyone reading this:

There's a bug where if you have negative crit rating and use abilities that increase your crit chance by fixed %points then the abilities stop being able to crit.

Haven't verified it's still in 11.2 but it's been there a long while before that, to the point where i've stopped verifying every patch

[urban skiff]

varnish adds this line to your tier pieces and nothing else at all is done to it

[ruby temple]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/pandaren-and-ensemble-rainy-day-attire/2160667 @urban skiff signal boost my post so Blizzard will remember pandas exist and it'll become meta again thank you

[urban skiff]

man i just wanted a quick blitz

[rapid socket]

Dumb question, when getting token for weapon, will i receive 1 or 2 weapons as fury?

[idle void]

You get two

[rapid socket]

Thank you!

[urban skiff]

you get two tokens, if you're in arms spec the weapons will each cost 2 tokens. If you're in fury spec or fury loot spec they will cost 1 token each, allowing you to buy two

[rapid socket]

Thx!

[urban skiff]

so just always be fury when buying weapons and check costs before hitting accept and you gucci

[boreal veldt]

woof

[urban skiff]

Seems like if they had swapped me and the 2100 mmr ret paladin, teams would have been even mmr

[boreal veldt]

also for warr every wep is just 1 token, don't need to change spcs

[urban skiff]

since when?

[boreal veldt]

dunno, noticed it last season

[urban skiff]

it was definitely 2 tokens in s1 and I think s2

[boreal veldt]

they just said, whatever who cares and just made warrior an exception

[urban skiff]

that's neat

what arenas are available for shuffle?

same as in 3s? Or are there ones removed from the pool?

[boreal veldt]

i think mechagon and dal sewers are not in ss

[urban skiff]

dalaran sewers would be wild

not sure why mechagon is taken out, it's at least nice and big

[boreal veldt]

me neither but i cant recall ever getting it in shuf

[urban skiff]

PROBABLY TIME TO SPEND SOME OF THIS

[boreal veldt]

keep saving, you're on a roll

diamond hands

[urban skiff]

the 3 losses was because we started playing while wife was already tilted and we stood zero chance, but would have wiped floor with them completely if she had been fine

[strong robin]

I can varnish helm and get 'free' socket via pvp socket right?

[urban skiff]

not sure

iirc there's something about varnish we have to be careful about

[strong robin]

There is a warning on it, but boy i wish i could read

[urban skiff]

looks like the earliest I can have full 720+ is in 3 more resets

without pve crafts

which tbh I might do for boots

But excluding trinkets i can be done next reset

HMMMM!!!

Or I could craft hat

yea that might be the gameplan

ah fuck, that blocks sockets

man blizzard knew what they were doing when they added BT gear and crafting

realized I was playing without varnish on my tier pieces

[obtuse oar]

Morning Zuggers,

Regarding getting the elite set, would you recommend Arms or Fury for a Warrior newbie? I'm a PvP main, and have got the elite set 4 times before, but on Ret and DK. So, it was quite an easy time for both. Cheers.

(and feel lik I've come across an even mix of both DPS specs)

[urban skiff]

you're going to have a harder time if you got elite on ret and dk this season and use that for comparison

if it was other seasons then it's going to be same so you'll be fine

[obtuse oar]

I've done Ret in DF S4, TWW S2 and TWW S3 -- so, yeah, I appreciate we're kinda walking nukes

[urban skiff]

Whichever you enjoy more is stronger, straight up

If you aren't having fun you're going to queue less and fewer queues = less gains

[obtuse oar]

and FDK was...fine?

[urban skiff]

It's like the gym: Whichever exercise keeps you coming back consistently is the best one for you 🙂

[obtuse oar]

That's fair. I've never played Arms, tried a bit of Fury in PvE. Seemed fun.

[obtuse oar]

How did you know I have a big deadlift and a piss poor bench

[urban skiff]

idk

I'm named after the greatest exercise of all time so

start squattin

[obtuse oar]

If there's not much of a difference between Arms and Fury, I'll give both a whirl then

[obtuse oar]

I have to in competition, dw, dw.

[urban skiff]

there's 392 arms warriors between 1600 and 1900 rating, and there's 221 fury warriors between

between 1800 and 2100 there's 123 fury and 198 arms

[obtuse oar]

I just feel morally obligated to get such a good looking mog

[urban skiff]

lmao almost 8m tempest crit

[torpid grove]

is there any setup to that ?

[urban skiff]

lol

did a quick shuffle and the highest I could get was 4.4m

but it can definitely go higher, i've seen 5+ in 2s and 3s and this was a small sample vs teams with innate damage reduction

[urban skiff]

Expend enemy team defensives and major CCs, build and spend MSW until you can have 3 dogs out during ascendance, then hit all your cooldowns and pray enemy team too braindead to stop you while you hit all globals

so pretty easy all things considered

woof, rough first lobby @fierce elm

[fickle forge]

Is this on a dummy?

[urban skiff]

yea

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge yo

[fickle forge]

Yeah

Makes sense

[wheat jay]

wanna do 3s tonight?

[urban skiff]

but just a quick dummy test, nothinjg comprehensible

[fickle forge]

If I am home then yes

[urban skiff]

is next week a catalyst charge?

[fierce elm]

no

spark

[urban skiff]

So we alternating spark and catalysts?

[scarlet barn]

Yes

[fierce elm]

yes

[urban skiff]

People Say Nothing Is Impossible, But I Do Nothing All Day

[rancid granite]

tony infected you oh no

[worldly oriole]

good work @urban skiff

[copper fox]

@novel crater you’re lucky qs died last night

[urban skiff]

I couldn't remember his name, so no tag

[copper fox]

It’s Always Something Different

[fickle forge]

Hello everyone

I only play male human characters, specially warrior with a longsword like in every rpg. Every time I go to a bar, party, or any social event in general, I try my best to avoid telling people what I do. Every time I tell women I'm an arms warrior main they start hitting on me. Last week I went to a friend's birthday party. Told his sister I was a male human arms warrior main. She kept asking me to "colossus smash her" and "spear her" in a flirtatious manner. This is a big reoccurring problem. It's gotten so bad that I tell women "I only play female dh elf" and that "I trinket chains of ice" so they will stop hitting on me all the time, however, this just makes all the men try to hit on me.

Any advice on how to stop attracting so many women as a male human arms warrior main?

[worldly oriole]

My cut is working I'm sexy

[fierce elm]

hi sexy im dad

[rancid granite]

as someone who mains male human swordsman in every game

i wish i had an answer to this too

[fierce elm]

Im gonna play this cool fantasy game guys with orcs and dragons. WHITE HUMAN MALE WARRIOR.

[rancid granite]

yeah i wanna roleplay ME while IN the world

make friends with orcs and dragons

not BE one

[fierce elm]

I cant lie I do the same

But thats because dwarf is fugly

and zandalari has toes showing

[wheat jay]

you wanna be his daddy?

[fierce elm]

I already am

[wheat jay]

damn

[copper fox]

I’m About To Main Vulpera Warrior After I Purchase Midnight

[wheat jay]

gae

[copper fox]

Ghey

[wheat jay]

Gaytheltren

[lavish quest]

Kennie is spreading his disease

[copper fox]

You wanna see gay

@novel crater up my A

[rancid granite]

that means you have to put "Santi's kitten ♥️ " in your profile

[graceful moon]

Hello everyone

I only play male human characters, specially warrior with a longsword like in every rpg. Every time I go to a bar, party, or any social event in general, I try my best to avoid telling people what I do. Every time I tell women I'm an arms warrior main they start hitting on me. Last week I went to a friend's birthday party. Told his sister I was a male human arms warrior main. She kept asking me to "colossus smash her" and "spear her" in a flirtatious manner. This is a big reoccurring problem. It's gotten so bad that I tell women "I only play female dh elf" and that "I trinket chains of ice" so they will stop hitting on me all the time, however, this just makes all the men try to hit on me.

Any advice on how to stop attracting so many women as a male human arms warrior main?

[fierce elm]

I am done helping the paladin pvp out

Back to warrior helping

[copper fox]

Good man

[rancid granite]

help convince me to go colossus and take it 2400 in ss and top 100 in 2s

[copper fox]

Or just play fury like an adult

[rancid granite]

I AM but it sounds fun

a bit more of a challenge

but then once i get my ass kicked i know ill just swap back

[copper fox]

2400 too easy for you rn as fury?

[lavish quest]

You're bottom on both pairs. You're up his sir

And you're the bottom in the relationship

[worldly oriole]

I should get fury geared

[copper fox]

[copper fox]

Yea You Should Get Fury Geared

[lavish quest]

Should I hit 1200?

[worldly oriole]

September Trading Post Coming In So Hot

[wheat jay]

how did you help?

im coming in hot

[worldly oriole]

Im gymming too hard for alts right now

[lavish quest]

I have my doubts

[worldly oriole]

Got shit to do today

[lavish quest]

Such as?

[swift badge]

4set as fury is bad right? So I am forced to play arms with 4 set since I already converted some items into tier until I can replace them again?
Feels so bad to play Fury with 4 set

[tribal wedge]

you are forced to nothing my friend, 4set on fury isn't worth it, but if you played it, it won't change a lot

[lavish quest]

People in here sayin only Colo arms uses 4 set maybe

Slayer of both specs stick with 2 set

[swift badge]

yeye I know, but kinda forced to, since 2 set pieces have crit on them, dont really want to play that on fury

[lavish quest]

GG it's jover

Forever stuck 1100

[urban skiff]

I wont trust anyone in here to do math and they go by feelscraft so

[copper fox]

Zercher says a build that the best enhance sham on the globe uses is bad

Can’t trust him either

[north thicket]

Mlethyren, do you think ww and/or enh are / are going to be fun this season

Blitz mostly

alt Blitzing

[wheat jay]

i dont think anyone ever trusted zerch in terms of builds lmao

[copper fox]

ww is always fun

Imo

[north thicket]

close to warri playstyle right

or hit and run

[copper fox]

Def warr style

No hit and run anymore

[north thicket]

nice, tnx

[urban skiff]

They're playing wrong. It's not my fault.

[copper fox]

lol

[urban skiff]

High haste stormbringer is absolute shit and it's no wonder they struggle when they could be champions.

[urban skiff]

If they do, it's their own fault

[rancid granite]

yeah so ez it's boring; the playstyle of demo / sub rogue is just

[frank knoll]

Is it 9/11 themed?

[rancid granite]

wait when do we get 4pc without dumb pve stuff it's week after next right

[fierce elm]

when their takes are ”Blitz and SS are the only brackets” from long time posters

I am OUT

[fierce elm]

Yep

Week 5

[frank knoll]

You’re mad cause it’s true

[lavish quest]

What part of this is wrong again?

[frank knoll]

Wow paladins based for once
I love seeing people cry about how 3s is the only real bracket

[rancid granite]

2s has like 20 sec queue times I imagine 3s isnt far off

maybe different when you're getting up there in rating but

real mode is the one with lowest q time 👍

[frank knoll]

They have different match making algorithms

[copper fox]

I mean it is the only real expression of skill left lol

They’re all real brackets

Only 1 has skill expression

[frank knoll]

Who cares about that
Winning is all that matters

[copper fox]

TRUE

[fierce elm]

everything

because 2s and 3s are more balanced around than blitz

blitz is not balanced and never will be lmao

[frank knoll]

Blitz is the only real skill as a healer

[urban skiff]

smooth motion apparently i used it wrong

[frank knoll]

You single handedly win every objective vs 8 opponents and carry your team at the same time

[fierce elm]

It also wasn't about 3s being hte only bracket

because I said all 4 brackets need to be considered

[urban skiff]

apparently i was using smooth motion wrong. Just a quick update

[rancid granite]

solo q 5v5 mode would be legit

one match no team swap

[fierce elm]

lmao

still waiting for all brackets glad mount

[rancid granite]

still waiting for a good glad mount

[fierce elm]

Dragonflight brother

tbh this one is aight

[frank knoll]

Sinful was the best tbh

Those shadowlands dragons were all sick

[lavish quest]

Nah, its because you supply your own healer

And can even queue without one

[frank knoll]

Yeah and nobody wants to heal SS
I don’t blame them
There 0 incentive

Especially when we have conq cap

[rancid granite]

ok carry me in 3s I'll zug as warrior or be a subpar rogue; my skills are I'll listen to call outs just tell me what to do

[fierce elm]

what the hell

I only have one ret

[rancid granite]

meth wants to turn me into a healer but that ain't happening

he's santi's bottom so he wants to make me his bottom

[fierce elm]

My warrior keeps having bad days though

Dude is boutta die if this continues

[lavish quest]

he's eu

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-shane-gillis-ew-gross-yuck-gif-5023177366843015793

[lavish quest]

maybe you eu too, I forget

[rancid granite]

na

[lavish quest]

then afro can't afford to queue with you because of the tarriffs

[fierce elm]

yeah its fucked

[frank knoll]

They do have something in the algorithm where the try to avoid the same specs queueing into each other

[lavish quest]

Yes, but the main issue is there's 10000 DPS and 7 healers

[frank knoll]

Give healers a special mount or something

[lavish quest]

They get a title

And BoA conquest tokens

🙂

[frank knoll]

I’ve never seen one guy with the title haha

[urban skiff]

trump is dead

[lavish quest]

Well its not a good or impressive title

I think its like 50 round wins about 1800 or something

I forget

[fierce elm]

what even is the title

[jovial torrent]

very worth it

[fierce elm]

God these FLAGS

[jovial torrent]

give me a waahh-mbulance mount

just a regular ambulance with water particles coming out the headlights

[lavish quest]

Is that this seasons?

[jovial torrent]

i dunno if it changes, it was either first or 2nd season not sure which

[lavish quest]

Musta been last season

I got S1's and it's a red glow

Or is the blitz and ss ones different?

[fierce elm]

2nd season is purple

[jovial torrent]

well damn, that would have gone much better with my mog, oh well

[fierce elm]

you can just look at the toy name lmao

and we don't have to guess

[jovial torrent]

unbound legend's pennant

looks like it was season 1

[fierce elm]

Looks to be the first one

ya

[lavish quest]

S1's is Forged Legend's pennant

[fierce elm]

Its the healer one,

[lavish quest]

And its red

[fierce elm]

not the Legend one

[jovial torrent]

battle mender title

[fierce elm]

brother

[lavish quest]

Wait, healesr got their own one?

[fierce elm]

yes

lmao

Healers get one with wins above 1800

[lavish quest]

Why do I play DPS again?

[fierce elm]

Because playing healer is for damaged people

[lavish quest]

Oh that's right

Well mine had to be above 2400 so its cooler

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-smol-small-ragey-gif-26398063

[fierce elm]

lmao

[jovial torrent]

but then id have to spend even more time in queueeeee

[lavish quest]

You wanna know the best part about the flags?

[fierce elm]

None of them

[lavish quest]

The only place you can't use them is in ARENA, ya know, where you fuckin get them from?

https://tenor.com/view/rage-angry-gif-25976706

[jovial torrent]

lmao didnt realise that, never really try to use them

[lavish quest]

I can use in blitz, I can flex it in my keys, even in the raid

Arena, go fuck yourself I guess

[jovial torrent]

back cosmetics overall are kind of a miss, hides wep on your back so who even cares to use it

[trail mason]

hey guys before i jump in to shuffle, what is the recommended? Arms or Fury

[fierce elm]

try it out

see if you enjoy one over the other

[lavish quest]

The flag isn't transmog so it doesn't hide things

[trail mason]

I enjoy Arms in PVE more but pvp is different

[fierce elm]

Then try arms