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Yea same as always then
give talent that makes festering strike a command pet to apply wounds
ez done
my issue with unholy was how I always had to go put up combo points in pve
when it otherwise felt like a ranged spec
They're not gonna make enh ranged cause the argument is ascendance is supposed to make you ranged
I don't think i like ascendance very much
There are very few true melees left in the game
I'd love it if enhancement played like genn greymane in hots, where you swap between melee and ranged set. Enh would swap between ranged stormstrikes and melee lava lash
feral doesn't feel like melee in pvp
imho
Yea but chain harvest was literally just chain lightning + chain heal in one bundle
yea wife at school
just doing scuffed delves +11s for fun
I might play warrior shuffle in a bit
but it just feels so bad compared to enh
You haven't played enh shuffles yet
Nah
i'm gonna, just don't want to play the daytime crew
This week will be best
this week will be best, because I have 720 weapon
2x kyvezra
@split helm
ohhh its a weak aura meh
weakaura is just a framework to make addons
/run GenericTraitUI_LoadUI()GenericTraitFrame:SetSystemID(29)GenericTraitFrame:SetTreeID(1115)ToggleFrame(GenericTraitFrame)
How is Fury in solo/2v2 compare to arms?
similar
More expensive to gear
you'll eventually craft weapons, + enchants
i didn't say it was much
@split helm
Nåit
Zercher again getting carried? Smh
he gonna carry me
I jsut go in to be bait and press bubble thats it
XD
I can hear you
lol
late is stalking us @urban skiff
Que took too long i lost interest
Hello Late, how is your day going?
good?

Pretty good just woke up and gonna head to work soon
late came then went
On stream?
2m damage xD
nait my main
I am full pve
okay look at the gear I will show
we're gearing his paladin in 3s
if this don't work i craft a full 697 set for him
ez
Would lowkey be better lmao
but would it be as much fun?
true
Infinite Q time wtf
this is ooooodd
I'm here to witness 1 game, can y'all find something already
does hand of protection stop me from doing stuff or was that only in the old days?
BoP yes
God your wife is fucking SWEATING
HAHAHA
The enh wall coming in at 10%
I think I know your issue with enhancement
the issue is with holy paladins shielding the everliving shit out of everything so when you pop cooldowns you have to go through first 20% hp before you see anything move on the health bar
My issue is it's tuned to be playing season 1 right now
While being completely inferior to ele
I want to see every single CD they have available too
there's a good reason to do it
if you spot zado and call him out, he gets mass reported and you can win
how
they're using addons to time their queues and then they only accept when they all get in at once
cant see it being cheating lol
leaving a lot of epic bgs starting out with one side at full people and the one they didn't accept has to backfill from like 5 people and that never happens before gates open
that's a you problem
What do you mean how?
show me they cant q at the same time in tos
and ill accept you as correct here
cuz afaik, its not against tos
using addons to do something you're not supposed to do, and making everyone else have a miserable time is against tos and the social contract
can you group 40 people together and hit queue the same raid?
no
game sets a limit, you can queue as 5 people
can you make 8 groups of 5 people and hope for all to get q at the same time?
You start queueing 40 people together in 5 man groups by using addons, you're circumventing the limits blizzard set to keep the game fair
can you drive over the speed limit?
does that make it legal?
and doing it and not accepting queues also sabotages epic bgs for everyone else, that's fine with you?
is there a tos rule that states you cant do that?
doesnt matter, does it?
Have you read the ToS recently?
it doesn't say what you can or can't do. It says what you agree to do and agree not to do
okay
so we're going by feels then
you can twist the argument theyre not having fun unless its their premade, so they do what they can to play as premade
lmao

and the fact that blizzard bans the behavior
the more vague tos is, the less you can enforce it
and the more you can work around it
if it was as bad as you say in the eyes of blizz, they'd have banned them all
They aren't bound by the ToS
They ban wow accounts, they don't ban bnet accounts
I need an adult who can explain this so a child will get it
are you always strawmanning this hard when you don't have any actual arguments?
I never said unfun
You straight up cannot play 5v40 epic bgs
so, does it also break that fun and sabotages everyone's gameplay if i want to q bg to play against my friend from other faction?
so you've taken away other people's ability to play this hobby video game because you're so fragile you can't play 40v40 without every form of assistance
since we can't group
or can you now?
they changed it so many times i dont remember now
but i used to do that xd
does it prevent 5 people from having any shot at winning and give 40 people a shit experience where they aren't playing pvp, they're just walking up to the objective and winning?
game will add those people
But it doesn't
game is halfway over when they come in, and half the team that comes trickling in leaves when the raid is half full
to make it 40v40 again
ive had many situations in which i have like 5 ppl, and it ends up being 30+ by the time it starts
usually full
or ppl dont press all at once
you know
premade ebg's is awful for both parties involved, but, they're nice people, and it's not rated, they just wanna have fun with friends and hang out
^
premades above 5 are forbidden by law
xd
forbidden by game mechanics
That's blizzards way of saying doing more is cheating
not forbidden, not recommended
there isnt any line of text in tos that states you can't do it
did you read the ToS now?
That was quick
find me the line
surely
No
I'm not here to convince you
I'm here to call you antisocial and feel better about that
You've already feeled your way into an opinion and every word coming out of you is just you rationalizing why you're right, not an actual argument
ebg 40man q'ers are least antisocial it means they got 39 friends
so you have no arguemtns other than "i feel its bad"
I could find the full line and you'd just swap to some other made up reason why I'm wrong and you're right.
and the fact you can't do it without addons and the fact blizzard bans it when they catch it
but sure
youcan do it without addons, its just easier with it
it's m-m-muh feelings because you don't actually have a reason why it's ok other than "i can't know for sure it's wrong"
what do they ban
It's your life man, do whatever you want. I'm going to continue thinking less of you for thinking it's cool shit to steamroll 40 random people in a premade, like it isn't the weakest behavior possible to exhibit. Aligning all those odds in your favour to win a hobby video game against people who just want to play and have fun. Sweaty behavior
Zado
okay, im googling
trying to find something
nothing in tos
nothing against queue syncing either
Don't waste your time
@fierce elm you there ?
definitely some lovely wholesome great people who enjoy 40man premades though
changed my mind on it
some people are absolute goblins about it though
I got roped into joining the discord, back when their method was to post a discord link whenever they got into ebgs and I didn't at any point think they sounded fun, nice, or wholesome
But it was more fun back then because it'd be 20 people from each side in their own discord channel
Back in cata, we used to do it with friends. Not to the extent of what these guys do, I agree it sucks when they do the que dodge thing it messes up the whole bg
Best shorthand descriptor for them was "fragile bullies"
massively messes it up
wait 10-20 minute queues only to have the entire thing ruined
I don't play pvp to collect currency at the victory screen. I play to press stormstrike. Not getting to actually play the game, or getting stuck with a partial premade that steamrolls so much I don't get to actually play the game, gods forbid into a team that isn't full?
it's fun af if multiple communities are balanced
premade vs premade is amazing but it seems rare
I’ve gotten used to it by now
they're using addons to queue dodge each other
yeah some
that's the whole reason it became a debacle in s2 in the first place
thats what i mean by goblins
I realized when I did 10 epics and lost all of them cause premade
They should just hit 40v40 wargames instead, i'd sign up for that in a heartbeat
the guild i was in tried but it didnt much happen, or rare, at least at that point
wpvp fun when those guys do it tho
If blizzard put more than one intern into working on the PvP side I don’t think it would’ve gotten this bad
had like a 100man wpvp night in duortor the other week it was amazing(ly laggy)
I haven't enjoyed WPvP since BFA
dat shit is so ass when you get more than 40 players
our crate farm ran into another crate farm at undermjne
yeah kinda lmao
random crate farm is one thing
but when its at like the main city???
then its personal
did we get pvp panel yet?
they were supposed to talk about it
tomorrow
@fickle forge rate my dps
2.8m
I tried to time how fast the monk died but it was 1 second
Mid
2.8M on triple cleave is like a McDonalds burger
Not warm, but slightly hotter than room temperature
Prolly gonna talk like 4 mins about it
Enhancement don't cleave
Got the link somewhere?
tomorrow
I was sure it was today
It does if you press the buttons for it
Damn
I went to paladin discord to see if I can get some answers
Regarding crafting for pvp
Holy moly that discord is cringe as fuck

We're the best here, it's probably best you stay here lmao
I rather be gay here than be gay there
what
At least here i know it won't be gay
Na it’s 100% gay
I'd you didn't ignore me I would
Tsk
Oh
Where
Either way for ret craft is boots and 1 ring?
Thats what I see the most in murlok
That's just how close we are to the warrior homies
Resisting many bad jokes 
That's what I did on my pally
Right
So
Blood - bracers, belt
Craft - ring, boots
Tier - head & shoulders
Rest honor gear
@copper fox Why is your apprentice a ret pally?
I thought that was War at first and got confused about the gear
Why you snitching
Curiosity
Killed the cat
And he tried to get me to play ret war with his ret last season
He was ret ?
Well he has a ret alt
you didn't reply to his tag so he went there looking for you ... then proceeded to talk about gayness.... :^)
also thought he was a warrior not ret
Afro kinda gay. Someone should break the news to his girl
Leland - the bald
I did made a warrior but I am waiting for something to happen this weekend to see what goes on until then I wanna try paladin which tbh was the char I first created when I came back
Leland - the drunk
I am drinking tonight
Oh LOL AHAHA
right on; it's still pretty fun - and like i said before keep trying shit out, you learn in the process lol
I'm on the asti train tonight, we can throw some turbo cleave when the bottle is empty @urban skiff
For sure I wanna get to know classes and shit so yah ahaha
let's fuckin' go
I'm recording now and figured out how to edit clips
Paladin is just a very angry priest that threw hands change my mind
so imma get some nice 1shot vids to make people think enh is wild
It's a priest who wants to be a warrior
Since you here no point talking in paladin discord, I saw murlok and everyone seems to be doing ring and boots the most hence why I was so confused there was also people with neck and boots etc etc
Yep I did jewelry first and will eventually do boots but it’s up to preference initially
I know now how to gear up so just wanted to make sure what to do before I buy anything stupid
@grizzled anvil
I’m by no means an expert mind you, only been 2.6k in 3s and 2.4k in shuffle as ret
Don't you drink potatoes or something?
collect 120 gilded crests and do two pieces of bloody token ilvl gear
Much more than me so I will listen to what you say 🙂
Also hit 2100 yesterday so yeet
eat the potato now or let it ferment
kompot 
Honestly that may be best for one ring and one neck but I don’t pve anymore xD
or two rings
mmmm
I collected weapon for my shaman
are my images getting insta deleted, or?
I'm gonna be hitting hard for a while now
yes
lmao
Delete that please
I feel offended
@grizzled anvil what do you use or check for paladin content like written guides YouTube guides etc etc
There is this lvladen pvp dude but idk if I should trust him or not
Is it like cranberry juice?
Lvladen is basically the ret pvp bug tester, he experiments with all different options finds bugs reports them and makes videos on what works
That being said
I usually look through the top 20 rets and see what all of them have in common
kinda
this is cherry
1sec
this is from apples 😄
goated
i very rarely drink this nowadays
but when i was a kid my mom was making that almost every da
day
Just looked cranberries in juice so thought mighta just been one of your weird EU name for things
NA ignorance unending
lmao
its basically boiled fruits with sugar
or honey
or no sugar if you dont want it sweet
but ye, cut, boiled fruits
to get the juice out
this is goated too
cherry/plum combo man
10/10
BRO
THIS
IS GOATED
@scarlet barn
knedle ze śliwkami ❤️
Ya know what I had that was great recently? Pretty sure hella unhealthy, but French toast casserole. Delicious, didn't even know it was a thing
xd
nice
i made wraps few days ago
went a bit overboard with how much was in them tho lol
this is like 28cm pan iirc
or 26
thick
Right so you don't follow necessarily his guide gotxhya thats what Inwas doing in murlok check what they have in common or not
Ah nah please no Polish food
Sausages and the dumplins or wtv thats cool
But you guys have some weird ass stuff
Pasta with strawberry and shit
Damn
Is not
have you eaten those?
Yes
Please understand something
I live with Polish people
Work with Polish peolle
No, you're undeserving of our food
they're great
If you come from communism country where you had to make the most with what you had sure I get you get to like them
But not where I come from food of my country is another level
Now there is plenty of stuff you guys have that I like
But equally as many I don't
what de hell
my guy, commusim has been out for like 35 years now or so
O_O
good food is just good food
@split helm whatchu wondering about ret brother
A lot of Polish dishes come from that era
You telling me I am lying
I can answer questions for the next 5 minutes
Or do I know more about your country that you do ?
Gotchya bro
Talents, damage rotation and burst rotation, macros, and who to follow for content
what does it matter
half of the cuisine in most countries is poor man's food lmao
Macros: sac, blessing of protection/spellwarding, sanc party 123
HoJ enemy 123
Freedom party 123
Build: check my pics posted have one further up
good food is just good food
that's all
i recently had pasta with blueberries in cream
10/10
goated
so fucking refreshing, had it cold, when it was like 35 outside lol
Damage rotation: Final Verdict - Hammer of wrath - Judgment - Blade of justice
almost want this pinned
Burst rotation: Blade of justice - divine toll - reckoning - final verdict - wake - final verdict back to regular
since i might try ret later in the season
Watch Vanguards on twitch play
Fucking legend
I think I hit everything
I will do sir
Dont overcap on holypower
During wake use final verdict on two different targets for the first two
to spread dawnlight
Simple guide
Get a weakaura that tells you when healer is CC
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what the hell is going on in shuffles atm? Healers can't keep up with damage and there's always a 6-0 or 5-1 dps just running right on through us
PvP talents : Sanc, hallowed ground, spellwardinf, searing glare, luminescense
Searing glare is also useful into spellcasters
could be what was in s2 at the start
healer's cant keep up with dmg until ppl get more gear
Holy shit I have to write all of this down ahahah 😆
I was there for the s2 start and it wasn't this bad for me
If you have a choice of split damage on their team, pick spellwarding
ret/dh get fucked by Spellwarding too
it was for me lol, i had to spend every second of every shuffle peeling lmao
Never pick BoP into Enhance
I am S T R U G G L I N G
BoP stops half my damage half the time and spellwarden stops half my damage the other half of the time
my mmr is heading straight for 1500
I'm way more washed
not even my rogue had this bad a start
will take you to 1300
1 win is 94
you can go all the way to 1500 and still get a full send to 1800
but without having to go 6-0
I did it on my dk or hunter
what wins and losses each match
ohh
hunter and ele are both unhealable for the healers at this rating
i dunno, ill let you know my final thoughts when i play more than one shuffle
if i had these matchups for my shaman i'd be golden tbh
xd
these aren't even the typical R1 / legend / mglads I'm usually against. It's just randos with 1 x duelist
ye
I can only make the most basic of things lol
Was in the barber lettin him take a shot at me
spellwarding is like 99%
If that's what you wanna call his trimmer and razor
I've had a 4 months break
how drunk do we get before sending 3s tonight?
idk what a bottle of asti is to you, like 1-2 genstande?
I walked to the barber. On my way back they closed that side of the sidewalk. What timing lmao
It GF dinner date night so
bring her to 3s, make her watch the eiffeltower of death
She'll be out cold brother
Make a deal, every killing blow I get, i down a shot, so you have a chance to deal damage too after 5 games
😄
Also she doesn't game
She can still cheer
i've been trying to make tournament style frames in heavily modified gladius but I can't get it right
but goal was to make it more watchable
hey what happened to GalaThad?
assa unholy ret arms
He malded because people would argue with him so he left
the quad nightmare
Also did @elfin surge really come in, to throw bald slander at me and say literally nothing else?
really?
boo
weakness
There was a time after he left here he was still in mudcord, but I don't even see him in there anymore
Muds discord
Where he shows d ick pics n such
Definitely want invite now
When he said before that consulted the council on the pins, he just him, Karg, and I had like 7 messages on it over there 
Btw @split helm Since you asked about talents earlier I know Afro already got you but here’s an import code for general use
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Work is doing me dirty rn so I’m slow
You guys are feeding me good !!!!!!
I will save all of this after lunch
Thank you so much
Fucking best PVP discord server. Period.
how did I get so bad at warrior?
We all got replaced by the girl
Gala got a girl huh 
that's why you bring your girl to the game
Man am I getting so many rage whispers on my warrior
What is even going on
Slayer or Colossus ?
slayer arms
playing this shit afro made for me
i keep not winning so technically I have shit stats
since I can't get heraldries for jewelry upgrades
I dont speak bald 🗣️ 🚫
also my vers is a bit high
And your haste a bit low too i think
FATTY
yea, i was going to fix it with heraldries but i keep not getting them from shuffle, because you need 4 wins for the game to award a win
One rbg do too ...
what the actual hell is up with my mainstat on my shaman
why so low
we agree 12k mainstat is a lot of damage, right?
oh shit
Game is so dead
Is that a paladin I see?!? 
The paladins are all seeking asylum here
what is this cherry soup?????
yes
i need this asap; already googling it
They wouldn't dare make the Tony wait
gave up on dh?
I think he peaks 1800 then swaps
Not done with DH just doing other shit. i cbf with more shuffle rn on demon hunter
Hardstuck 2.1 feelsbadman
finally thats done
I'd hope so, doesn't take long to do
The spark quest took me like 20 min prob... of mindless braindead running into people and pressed big pillar on dk lol
was no world quest
was only one pvp one. ig i didnt unlock the others
Well sheet, play the game lul
Oh im gaming
for the helmet for paladin
I get this one ya
because the other one i crit
we want ver mastery right
so I get this conquest one
Yup
because I want helm shoulders set for paladin
oh look, a copycat
10/10 mogs
A shame mail boots suck ass
@wheat jay went 4-2 from 1465 and hit 1815
so I figure 1450->1800 possible with 4-2
only 87 rating per win
Where's the copy?
I think it's the same, m8
My brother in Christ, are you blind?
The only same thing is the tabard lol
What's actually going on, is that the game calculates your rating changes upon entering the arena and doesn't adjust anything until the arena is over
or in other words, you aren't awarded your rating until the shuffle is over
So below 1500 you have accelerated rating gains that you get to hang on to until you cross over 1500
Yes
So doesn't get easier by the patch
The game ends before they give you rating lmao
we just get better by the patch
Artji is just gatekeeping, don't mind him
It's MS MS MS
oh shit
you're rusty pal
this is beyond rusty
you gotta get back in the zone of thinking less
I'm guessing one is the algari missive, it's the item that sets secondary stats
you always want one of those, or you'll get an item with randomized stats
prob this one
grab missive, grab embell
you can use two embells only
yes
can put em on whatever but its cooler just to put em on rings
one for boots one for ring
well, whatever you want lol
yes
but the second one is versa mastery
you need a gem
yeah missives to put your desired stat in
What are we buying week2 on warriors? @elfin surge
either mast/vers or haste/vers is the general
nothing it seems still just save up
brother I understand that, I just want to know if its 1 item each for each craft
yes, i think
perfect
not sure the question fully but sounds like a yes :)
cap this week is 625 CQ and 675 BT
yueah its awful
I haven't spent any on my shaman
quick napkin math tells me I could have 6% more mainstat by spending
week 2 is catch up on alts week =p
that's like 6% more damage before damage buckets
or playing the long game
i mean isn't week 1 conquest weapons BIS? and people climb then just chill
Never realized how often people randomly just send kicks in a BG
Had precog on my MW like 40% of the game
some do that, I went with week2 weapons
I wish I had the energy to get m+7s done so I can craft more pve gear for pvp
maybe boots
I need to buy the mount with AH
Maybe my guild will agree to carry me in m+ in exchange I craft boots and join raid so I can trade cantrip boots I don't care about
Hey did they ever fix presharpen in prep room?
you cant get it anymore right?
sad
think they removed it
wdym gem
this
that's this for
3
Should i preorder midnight
yes
if you like what you get then yes
man i wish I could have this belt in dark/red to match astral stuff
i have no idea what half of the preorder items are
oh damn you get gametime
only with the big one
the mid one is just to drive sales to big one from small
man I wish that 7th legion set could get a dark recolour
size and shape on them: perfection
beef cake
wish I had these from legion
the shoulders, from the elite set i mean
have the mythic set
right had no clue about this so I fucked up my craft ?
huh
no
read what it does
5k honor + 3 bloodstones + 1 stat gem
@split helm this cannot proc until you have a gem in your gear
right
I dont have honor for it
so will have to do it later
now I know what u on about ye
What’s eating your cpu
probably the streaming thing
what a dirty lobby
my cpu was spam goin from 15% to 99% yesterday when i moved
cos apparently having more than 10 tomtom waypoints messes you up

@wheat jay missed my window
Bro
seemed funny. i dont know lmao
I just realised LvladenPvP has his playlist public
😄
Man I am laughing
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Im going for mine in a bit xD
Just bunch of random shit
ruined my mmr in daytime lobby and now i'm stuck in the same loop as last season
immediately after playing after daytime I had normal lobbies today
Why don't i ever learn
We know
I think my PC is too shit for raiding tho anymore

0.6
So DH is fotm right now... 
apparently
lmao
looks like all my specs are good
soon devourer will be best
trust me
@rancid granite Does reshi wraps count for the socket thing ?
Can I only out fibers there or
Put
no
it doesn't say gems, it says Khaz Algar gem
👍
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You cried so long for a pvp mod and you keep coming back to me smh
;(
lol
no one cried for a pvp mod lmao
we cried and bawled our eyes out for emojis
not a fking mod
Mud sucks
tbf i just woke up
And did you get them?
good lesson taken from the ret pally discord
is fast footwork talent bugged? or just doesnt show speed increase?
It was on a whim
being a good person and giving and kind isnt always easy

Bold of you to assume
Just because zercher has a bit of versa doesnt mean he has to be banned.
150 rounds of pvp and counting, just so I can get the mog set. I am getting my teeth kicked in 😄
cant even get close
@tribal holly have I ever been in the conversation. For a Valk or SF role?
the wait between the rounds is what gets me, when I come to the realization how bad I suck at this 😄
lmfao why would you
no
I drank the kool-aid and prepurchased epic midnight
you mean mobility/calisthenics/clean house time?
or the 30seconds every round in ss queue where its pure dread
(still mobility time)
I dont know you

Kek
just pack your stuff and leave mate
I didn't cry once for a pvp mod. I thought you were pvp
he's here ..
I think we need at least 2 pvp mods
Mud cant be everywhere at once and the poor guy is tagged enough daily 😂
2-3 sounds good
I nominate @spice hornet and @copper fox

@novel crater do you get glad with a female healer
One of my healers is a girl ye
Damn dude if you got glad with her you might be the best warrior in here
That’s a heavy backpack
late gets tagged in here, he knows it's someone posting spam
Yea she’s not bad I watched some of your games when you linked your stream
Mud gets tagged in here, he assumes it's one of 500 people asking about gearing
imagine playing with girl healers (my wife is my healer)
😬
99% time it's to meme him though LOL
Woah ok
Not wrong
But the truth still hurts
actually on the topic of Dirt
@elfin surge whats the general goal of healers in 2s
Half the warriors here play with femalenhealers
are they supposed to zug zug
To impress your female healer
Nvm
Misread
yeah i was gonna say im absolutely gonna pass on 3's with 2 sweaty men and im gonna stick to 2's with the girlfriend
Keep the party alive and fuck with the other healer
