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Ive been telling lvl that he needs to try MY lomo saltado and ceviche for like 10 years now
@copper fox i started doing brazilian jiu jitsu like 6? weeks ago
its been huge
i get to exercise and socialize
Lvl is east coast heโs heavily missing out on S tier food
here in brazil brazilian jiu jitsu is called just jiu jitsu

Miami has decent food but its not the same ๐ฅฒ
I have yet to try out a couple of restaurants in my list that ALLEGEDLY are the closest u can get to real food
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translate this bro
Brother its called jiu jitsu everywhere ๐
the name or the entire lyrics
cause im not gonna listen to that

lyrics bro
i gto 0 idea what they are saying
but they play this when we are rolling
You enjoy more like that

why skyrmishes are like this
you deleted, but its not rly 
thought maybe the wrong place to post lol
slayer fury still the goat for war pvp? i mainl get to play bg blitz cuz of work schedule
We still testing, arms is technically stronger than fury rn, but the margin is not significant
ty
the goal is to make the healer cry soooo.....
Huge
still need to cut a lot of weight
anyone got the single button macro for BStance/DStance?
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;[known:386164]!Battle Stance;[known:386196]!Berserker Stance
thanks brotha
Oh hell yeah
About to spec out of rallying useless
omfg my account got suspended for a week
Not surprised
Honestly lucky itโs a week. Next time it happens itโll be 6 months
just dont say anything
something that helps me is i will type out what i want to say but then delete it
OR turn off chat for the match
Warr stonks ๐ with weapons
Yeah the ability isnโt even a defensive
Itโs a root break
Yeah I should have
Itโs completely cheeks
At least I got my conquest last night
whatchu eatin that bad
its still only 10% right
and it prob aight as a freedom surely
esp for us non gnomes 
Feel like I get crushed as fury whenever I'm in an arms lobby
ya arms knocks yo block off
get good at insults that's like hardstuck 1200 level insult
prob fried plantains lots of rice lack of sleep and water
maybe drinking a lot of apple juice
uh
is cleave better than whirlwind for arms pvp?
On retail?
ye
not used
u do a lot more single target pressure than an arms, u just need to be careful about the wall trading cuz parry is better than fury wall
coulda just asked him how many Naruto posters he owns then hit em with the kek or a hehe idk gotta get creative
source: never been banned but got so many people to rage mute me
Yup I've noticed that lol you just die way easier
more protein, learn to count, get good at feeling hungry, eat less
ez
replace food with gum is my secret weapon
i need to double up my exercise days
today i walked 1m then went jiu jitsu
was super tired
i think my diet is definitely lacking outside of protein
keeping a log of everything is op too
start with making sure you get 5k steps a day, drink water, not soda. prioratize being satisfied with your meal not stuffed
I lost like 100 pounds over a year and a half just changin up my died and walking some
Wait wtf we can emojii now?
Calorie deficit
Yeah it's legit just cutting calories
90% of it yeah
soda/beer reduced or ideally out is prob biggest one
The macros and all that are important for body composition
drinkin calories so easy
thing is i dont drink soda
If ur hard on soda
Yeah I moved to just sugar free sodas
Zero sugar
Soda will fuck you up
Holy shit is the best thing
i think its mainly if i get my hands on some fruit juice of whatever
but also steps would definitely help
straight fruit juice is not great for you
your body digest it differntly if there is no fiber with it
water and tea all you need
logging your weight and food is simple and helps create a good diet routine
lets you know if you needa eat less or more
breakfast like a king, lunch like prince, dinner like a popper
Eat more ass?
0 cals
you can go all out to satisfy the hunger
which again is the real way
get good at being hungry and gg
So the other big thing that really helped me once I hit a plateu at like 60 pounds was intermittent fasting
But that doesn't work for everyone
any good youtube vids for arms shuffle rn? can't find anything recent
how do you think we get two charges and heroic leap
I wouldnt know my account is banned
is my wife ok?
ok I'm not crazy, i was capped on delver's journey progress
Let's get it to 8-10k daily bud
at 2k rating and I feel like theres no hope vs the endless ret paladins. They do more damage have more utility and can tank better.
thats a lot
but also
when its not tkaing into account when i do jiu jitsu
so like
idk how much i do
lets get it to 40k
It's a 1-1.5 hr walking sess and then your normal day to day walking movement will get you there easy
We're not talking Warhammer bud
time to reroll enhancement until ret is under control
just straight up wipe the floor with them
Done that once
I meant what's a good spec to play into comps w ret
Any spec or a specific one?
I'm so bad w mage, maybe its time to git guudd
im trying something else than warr now, I'm tired boss
Affli, any Hunter spec, DH, WW, Elemental
do decently into Ret
Mage isn't that good into ret honestly
Because ret can just counter most of what Mage does
perhaps Arcane
thanks Afro โค๏ธ
understandable
I'm just tired of doing 20x the effort while some specs can just chill
vs me
๐
Yeah until you realize that every spec has that versus something lmao
frost dk good nowadays?
Mage is gonna have to deal with the pressure and fury of every 12 year old melee player
Frost DK is bad tbh
Unholy is the play
Outlaw is ass, Frost dk is ass, MM hunt/ret/DH are okay
havent tried to push for a while, wanted to give it a try and see how bad i am
Elemental feels like ass tbh but we haven't faced any decent ones
Ret/DH is pretty good*
is legion remix out yet?
This aint google BROTHER
Its not like Warrior is in a bad state either
for being an mmo, u talk so little w people ๐
And warrior is so dummy flexible that it can go with anything
Yeah warrior is doing good
arms or fury`?'
Arms PvP
Fury PvP
^^
Prot PvP
Ret PvP
Yall still play warrior?
Devourer is the new arms, survi, fury, and havoc all in once

They dont
Afro could go in and say BUT I DO HAVE ONE
NO, HE PICKED HER UP WHILE HE WAS WARR MAIN
@fierce elm dirty paladin

They don't. Paladins get picked up or picked on
paladins are the men who get off on being carried by their stronk wives and being bullied by them
which is totally fine too
Hello my dear PvP warriors, if I have 4 piece PvE tier set. Should I equip it in my solo shuffles or drop them for PvP gear instead?
Depends on ilvl
They are hero and mythic track but I donโt have enough crest to upgrade them to max ilvl
You can get away with a 1-2 pieces on 710 ilvl since we still wear a lot of honor pieces rn
Got it, thank u so much!!
S Priest
Spriest get shat on by ret
I really hope blizz is gonna pull the carpet on illidan larpers and make devorerer into a support spec
Has no stop for rep/searing glare, is easy to train both from ranged and melee, Psyfiend dies from one ranged ability, only way to counter rets defensives is by mass dispel which wont get off
Their go is telegraphed and easily pre-SoVable
?
Nah, its confirmed melee/range dps
Imagine survi
One can dream
Honestly tho i think second support spec would probably make the game better, kinda goofy having only one
SoV?
If you asked blizzard today what aug is, they'd say melee/range dps spec
Ye, for a reason
Support didnt work out
So devourer could literally be aug2.0 and we currently would not be able to tell from the info they've given us
Also how is aug melee range hybrid?
There should be 0 
Shield of Vengeance
We have gotten few abilities description
It is a dps spec
Zercher, have you read any wowhead posts?
Absolutely not, i cannot read
Smh
I like the idea of a hybrid spec that jumps between melee and ranged
sort of like Survival
but not Survival
my wife's boyfriend reads discord to me and i tell him what to write
Needing to jump back and forth for optimal damage does sound fun
I think it's going to be like Genn Greymane from HotS
I fully support returning enha to support, like it should be
Where you swap between melee and ranged but you don't really get to decide when, it's more just part of the overall rotation
definitely
When was it support?
Enh has always been the big boom spec
Vanilla/TBC
Even vanilla enh was the big boom spec
Enh had 1 button to press for dmg in vanilla and 20 to press for support, thats not a big boom
Can't imagine how anyone could enjoy pre-legion classic
Or pre-wod at least
Pvp wise of course
Uuh no?
One big button, and autoattack 
Ye
in true vanilla, you could macro rotations to have conditionals and do everything for you
I am hard
Ewww
Co
I struggle to understand all this hate Fury
Makes 0 sense to me
Specially being warrior
Comes from i guess shadowlands
When fury resurfaced in pvp
And it was so braindead easy you could put a monkey with blindfold to ig and it'd win games
Was more braindead than at the time bm hunter
And was unkiteable since you had infinite charges from rotation
Sounds fun
We should go back to that
Yeeee it wasnt fun facing it lmao
Thus, everyone disliked it
And everyone playing arms was annoyed how stupid it was
People generally dislike easy winning specs in wow
Sounds like a bunch of cry babies to me ngl
Well, now ye but in shadowlands it wasn't that big of an issue to face mage
Or any caster
So can't have fury from before because we have something worse now. Perfect
You play balance, imagine you had 50 knockbacks, and still couldjt keep fury off you for longer than 5 seconds
Why is blink a passive now?
DH is exactly the same
Sorry longer than half a second
Ye but triple the dmg
The unkiteable part was during their entire burst
Whereas dh you can somewhat control during cds
Anyway, fury was braindead easy, everyone hated it
It was too op for how easy it was
Same hate that bm hunter got
Meh.
๐ซก
Sir 
ok I tried ret, elem
im back on warrior,
fk that shit
Warrior ftw
Could someone help me with a 3s and blitz build for arms? or is Fury the go to now?
in the pins brother
oh myy bad โค๏ธ
is there a big dif between fury vs arms this season?
lmao
you ever play fury in 2s
i havent this seas
is there anything inherently good or bad lol
seems I have an easier time swapping targets with arms
2s feels like a completely diff game than ss but maybe I'm over thinking it
Yeah 2s are very different
Arms does have an easier time swapping but u dont need to much in 2s
just train one thing down breh
invite a fw monk and do dam
I mean it's generally how it's been I'm surprised how many times I can train down a healer too
but sometimes they gud at kiting or shamy being tanky af
prob cause I ignore totems tho
dh/holy jumping into the air every 30 seconds was the most tilting duo yet
Even at high mmr
Iโve noticed a lot of them panic if you swap to them
I swapped to a priest with no damage CDs up cause I was getting kited
Immediately trinkets and uses that fly in the air thing
at my job if I was responsible for an endpoint that many people relied on especially multiple 3rd parties and I just didn't fix it for over 2 weeks im not sure if I would be employed for very much longer
Are you talking about the talent API
Not only have they not fixed it
They wonโt even acknowledge it
I like it
its on purpose
hide the meta for first few weeks
I have to think for myself when I do my talents ๐ฆ
I canโt just copy @elfin surge build
i just picked the same talents i played for the whole expac minus 5 mins in s1 when odyns fury was viable
Iโm playing MW rn
I am actually having to read all of them because I have no idea what Iโm doing
o ya no idea about mw
q with mw every seas past 5 seasons and he'll try to explain his builds

ARMS
23
30
1
Slayer
Are mages the biggest counter to a warrior due to their mobility?
mobility and slows
They also the most dangerous in arena atm, whilst we as warriors can do to negate it ?
hahhaa you think i wlak throughout my day lol
When I 5/1 a double mage ret lobby I just stayed on my pillar in LoS of my healer and killed the stupid ret whenever he would over extend
So you just gotta kinda hide from their dam
Dont stack on ur healer or he will be DB sheeped
this is disgusting
the people have spoken
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blizo playing DEMO rn
:^)
Right play hide and seek but sometimes not always possible
Hmmm
I will need to try to learn more about it because when tou solo shuffle you can't always do that
I love democracy
they can remove colossus from the game now
Prot dont need anything else with thane
slayer prot with bladetorm would be so funn mannnn
What a beauty
Templar BACK baby
KT Human paladin almost confirmed
What If KT Human Paladin Needs TO Use The Toilet With All That Armor On?
the bubble before they poop
Oof
warrior colossus ๐
paladin colossus ๐
how's warrior doing in this gamescon stuff is it seeing play?
ah just saw a recap of blizo getting 3 - 0 'd
into rmp of course
warr feels good in s3 but idk other stuff is just crazier.
10am in the morning
Most productive tony day
do some mobility work in q's
this tmog is only obtainable w/ that 2.5k conquest achievement that is timegated until (i assume) next week ye?
Yes spongie
ty
huh
you get 2100 rating
duelist
you can tho
ye probably
1pm here baby
Oh. I just replied to achiev being timegated till next week@static blade
you baited me
idk 1.8k certainly didnt take effort but i dont like the queue gameplay
i shall continue tyvm for the inspiring words
1.8k
the polearm looks better
I know this is PvP but you all need to see this, this is wild
I told you yesterday
Paid 160k to someone
Got invited to a group of warlock that summoned me
Paid to the big boss
They kicked me from the party
Got invited right after
Then stayed there afk
And lvl up to 80
You literally dodged the question
elaboratly
i understand someone boosted you and you were afk but what did they do?
kill mobs?
Yes what else would they do ?
Idk run you through a dungeon
you arent very descriptive on where the mobs are located lol
I have no fucking clue it's full afk
I just stand there and voilร
Idc whwre I am or not what I care is getting to 80 ๐
lvl boost?
you get summoned to siren isle while an egyptian/venezuelan on a boomkin runs around aoe mobs in a hyperspawn
lmfao
let's fuckin' go
6ish days of people feeling it's really unfair i bring 720 weapons to the table
how do I get to undermine ?
I done the quest on main
so I should be able to go on alts no
will blizz fix the thing with berserk roar / shout? the fact that it doesn't change automatically in the bar has generated me some problems mid-arena. Or do i just have to git gud?
the fact that you can still choose this talent even though you haven't chosen berserker shout doesn't seem like a good game design
do people even play that talent lol
against SP / Warlock comps can be useful sometimes
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I am in undermine and tells me to exit undermine I don't get it

Ya, get killin or doin the objs
usually people just gy farm each other at the world pvp quest location
which is the little arena area to the side of the main one
like where rika reverb is
gotta pick a rep. from the main hub in the center then WQ's show up
if there's players there
there i
but I cannot kill any
wtf is this shit
I dont have the gear for it
nearly impossible
run in put bleeds on them
you think methyltren would say 'i dont have the gear'
no he'd just go zug
well I am trying
idk what bleeds are yuet
man this sucks
I iwll just go do something else to get gear first
dont even need a group but WQ's aint so bad
I just join a sparks group
Button assist
letting you in on a secret
you can do any world quest and get 100 bloody tokens
if you are in Warmode
but it gives 50 conques and 500 honor
shouldnt I get those ?
I guess I could do crates
and thats it
cap is 1900 so sparks = full token
BUT W/E
what is best spec / talents for solo shuffle?
check pins
yeah but is arms better than fury or wise?
thank you!
neerd
I don't even know how to get half of those locations xD
you get a 3 minute heads up or something
set hearthstone in hallowfall too
usually they have a mage to portal you all to dorno
mood
and yeah prot pala gonna be interesting as a dps
i need the wq for gold bro
cos thw wintrade bracket was super lame
Careful when you click the portal cause sometimes mages are feeling a little bit silly
click the portal IMMEDIATELY
so the mage will put a portal to all locations
and you just click it and go along ya
thats how it works
well idk
they will port to dornogal however
where you can get to everywhere quite easily
except hallowfall
The crate at ya mommas house is easiest to get to though
hallowfall is usually hearthstone or flying
I need to go hallowfall then
fly there and put heartstone
wtf
def aint there XD
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
brother what are you doing lmfao
I do not like read names I just played campgain skip skip and thats it
CAMPAIGN SHOWS HALLOWFALL
I DIDNT READ NAMES
God lord brother
Fits right into this discord
this is Meth's problem
Is fury viable in 2s and RBGs?
Define viable
I mean can they perform well
can i push to 1800 is what im asking?
or should i just play arms?
It would be easier if you played prot
yes
any single spec in the game can hit 2.4
any single spec in the game can get r1
The spec is not holding you back
yes
there is some that have an easier time thatn others tho no ?
that was not the question
Cool thx!
yeah but I am asking you
sure
like ret for example kekw
or pick up ret and go 1-6 two shuffles in a row like me
lmao
Don't be a sheep saying what everyone else is saying when you don't know the game
thats wack behavior
Source?
dont ping me and ask source lfao
Yeah I get it
Ret at the top end in 3s is not as good as it is in the middle of the pack
im gonna do that a whole bunch
yeah end game pvp different game
every single spec outside of the tank specs have 2.4 rep in SS
The only two specs that DONT have 2.4+ rep in Blitz is Prot Warr and Brewmaster
but that will change
on EU*
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there too
cdew can suck a big fat nut
Off a squirrel
Time to hit yall with the fact that Arms is better at the top end of 3s
than Ret lmfao
have you done the quests
yes on the main yes
main as in 1st char to 80
unlocked undermine got the car and everything
and have you done the skip on your alt
for undermine ?
yes
Ys
okay maybe thats why
it requires an achievement however
Naa you can google from here
based
got it
all done
just had to do test run
next time can you link me the link to google ?
fuck no
never gonna become SF with that atitude
lmao
Afro destroyed
Afro destroyed
@copper fox take care of this man
He is flying into fatigue because he was trying to go to hallowfall

That was funny ngl
Now I know where I am going I never done those things before so I believe it's normal me being lost
Dh dk is the best comp in the game rn
Instead of going down the mines and shit I tried to fly out of dornogal and above the sea 
yeah its fuckin wild
Thatโs crazy
i need to ride it to glad rq
Bro do not judge me I had no fucking clue then went YouTube and got my answer
Should have YouTube it first ahahah
New Methyltren apprentice? That's wonderful. He loves being a master.

Very Bodacious Broski
Whatever happened to @robust hearth
Another master/apprentice relationship
Needs to update that name to PRIZED
"we are balanced"
loadin into a blitz with 6 rogues and goin hey fellas is rogue doin okay in bgs nowadays
Holy
What a degenerate game
Rets and MMs making BGs unplayable
I like when I zoned into a random BG on my lock and the enemy team had 5 MM hunters
People out there who play this game only to play MM in a battleground
Meth the dommy mommy
@green wharf what do people do in Uruguay
Lmfao
how should i know
get warm i guess
mut be cold down there
Anyone else wanna make prot pally healer again in ss? Theyโre fkn useless as a dps
no
crazy that i was so good at warrior they suspended my account
Yeah
LMFAO
hello all, anyone knows a guide to know when to use slayer and when to use colossus, same for when to use rend, and when to sweeps execute

Hello. What would you guys say is furys best comp to que in 3s rn?
Think a dev would be a viable alternative for that?
Yes i main dev war
Yea definitely
Nvm no it sucks
But yea itโs the slightly worse version of it
Its good tho
Nice. I can vibe with that better then a mage lol. Do any of yall know anyone who streams those games?
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/s/ZoB8qOTGQ6
@fierce elm this guy is a better player than me
these was us testing this week
Thanks! What would you say is the best healer for it?
Hpal>Rdruid>MW
can someone say to this guy to stop
and go back to pve
i dont think he is trying to improve
Thanks! Last question I promise lol. What fury build should we run with the comp?
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Just realised that i havent seen mage, hunter or evo in suffle lobbies this season and i got ~50 matches so far
What i have seen is atleast 2 retri in every lobby
The fotm-rerolling seems to have gotten a lot worse
that's what happens when the community puts a premium on attaining a specific rating as a player over attaining rating as a specific role/class/spec
oh dont worry u will see them
The lobbies with 2 retris feel horrible, just delete that spec already blizz
They must be at 1.8k then 
nope 2500+
Then i will not see them
and u still get a ret every lobby there too
What's the best solo-shuffle spec rn?
Ret and arms iirc
Ret
Sorry I did mean for us - terrible wording haha
Arms
I think I'm ok with that
rets don't feel as scary as you guys made them out to be
I'm just kind of over how many hp bars i have to go through
But the upside is i get to use more than the first 3 seconds of my ascendance so ๐
SMF THANE
what content can i do daytime that doesn't suck ass because of daytime players?
I once again Q'd enh sham and left the lobby
Arms or Fury doesn't matter many people have said difference is minimal so play wtv you like, some people here hate fury so they won't eve say fury, if you like fury go with fury if you like arms fo with arms.
It does nothing dude
No damage to be seen
Maybe if I leave 3 more lobbies it'll be playable
skill issue
enh is like that one drunk dude on the street trying to fight
what are your stats and build?
Bet you're going dogs and high haste like a fob
no
By the looks of hit DH is more worried chasing "balls" than actually doing damage.
aldrachi?
yes
xD
devourer looks to be the same but less clunky
SAME
@fickle forge not just my opinion btw
its ass
would be nice to have an ability suck in all the souls from the arena
like, make felblade suck it all in
Imagine playing flying around chasing etc then out of the sudden
OH BALL
Wait a minute healer
Let me LOS you so I can grab that succulent ball
What a shit gameplay
eyebeam should be drawing in souls to fuel extra duration, imho
thats what devourer does
neat
so
It's just stupid
I haven't read anything about it yet
devourer seems to have an ability that sucks in all the balls
They need to release a whole new spec for it
has eye beam
Where do they shoot eyebeam from? We got mouth and eyes so far. Devourer is either nose, ears, or nipples
Can they buff enh already
has big demolish thing
from his junk obviously
and has the hunt
so acutal melee/range hybrid
so
Pee EYE beam
actual surviwithout pet
Devourer will be played the most of all for obvious reasons then nerfed to the ground
Devourer is looking like the next ret
Imo we don't need more of this gameplay
it looks nothing like ret?
I wanna try play DH but that soul chasing bullshit ain't it
Melee/ranged hybrid with utility
It is looking like another ret case
survi is ret?
Survi not quite
dk is ret?
You at least can only play full ranged during your CD
If anything devour is more RET than RET is because mobility
Lmfao
like a chad
This Polish dood man
Legit hate this gif fucking cringe as fuck
unlike fucking havoc who has to run around and hope souls feel like going in
Annoying
Fuck that
I was going to lvl up my DH
Won't even attempt now
The ball chasing legit put me off
And their discord is dogshit
Take 30 lighting years to reply to a question

Thought about spending my level boost on a DH
wait you chase balls?
But y'all are talking me out of it
I ignore them
Brother trust me I love the mobility legit do but then saw the chasing around and let me tell you something having to leave target to go get a ball to then do more dmg aint it
You just love dps overall
Loss
Annoying
I will wait for certain Fury Warrior Guide coming out this weekend ๐
it 100% is
id say its 2nd best discord in terms of pvp
Sounds like a ret angle then
cuz its pvp, noone is updating that shit lol
Sounds like something a shit pvp server would do
Because this one does update it and is pvp
mehh
Telling you number 1 discord pvp server is here
i think the only class guides that are good, and written, are here
then most specs and classes have videos
or streamers
Negative
like survi hunter having bicmex, ww faxxaxx
A problem I have been facing a lot is trying to get information for PvP
Like good quality info
Because everyone can make a video
Wow pvp in general lacks shit tons of videos good quality video about classes
why don't you do it?
Pvp discords are dead in general
Who'd wanna watch me play one monthly shuffle though
play more then
Because once you reach a level where you face competent casters, you need some giga patience to accept you'll be having very short periods of uptime, and for the rest you're spectating
Melee cleaves are a rarity at higher levels
Ah yeah true uff sad
Casters just scale better with skill
Really
play enh and do the icon swap
Thats sad
lol
Everyone playing mage I guess
PLAY ENHANCEMENT
I'd play enh if it wasn't playing Dragonflight with the numbers
Like it's horrible
It's fun
@fickle forge how come you have ret being the rank 1 then in solo shuffle ?
But you win anyway because you're arms and one tap in a stun
If casters are better
sure, i'm just playing dh
It's got very few weaknesses
Mobility is ine of them
Tops the meters easily, the best utility in the game and can fight at any range
Ret is just overtuned
Well
Looks like I am joining then ๐
I will play everything tbh
Learn skills and shit
Lemme put it like this brother
This is shuffle above 1.8k rating
And this is above 2.4k
O.9
Notice how warr plummets?
Being a good warrior is primarily being able to play into these people that deny you uptime well
And ret doesn't have that issue
Half the melees can kite other melee atm as well
So what you saying is of all the melee classes Ret is the easiest of them all (DH hardly can be kited honestly but the balls chasing puts me off)
Pretty much
Understandable
Ret rotation plays ultra easily, it can be done from range and it's got the best utility
Along with topping the meters
Damn, now that you put it that way it does seem very complete
Blessing of freedom yah m?
Ye
Which allows you to come out of any impairment movement
Does it prevent any during duration aswell or
Yeah now that you read it it does seem broken lol
So they're unkiteable or impossible to stick to unless you purge it
And you have heal aswell
Then you got the utility
Lay, searing glare, BoP, Spellwarding
Poly spam with Repentance
It's a literal god
what utility would you remove from ret to give to enh, to put them at equal level?
I suspect we're getting ranged stormstrikes with the midnight talent set
ret survival evoker and now devourer getting mid range, next obvious candidates are unholy and enhancement
the only argument against giving enh permanent range is how much closer it'll be to ele
Unholy is already ranged
not fully ranged
It is
Same way survival isn't fully ranged

