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So I had 2 rounds where I performed outside what the ELO system expected, and was punished for that by losing MMR.
Think of rating as a rewards track. It's only there to unlock stuff.
and decided to focus on a bad paladin
instead of MM
result, MM burst his ass to the ground
Ele sham or what?
ok this is straight up weird now
How am i seeing so many dks in shuffle
played with both healers already today. All the dks were different
Prepping for next chewsday
why are you screaming
WHAT ARE THEY DOING NOW THAT BENEFITS THEM ON PATCH DAY
Bro idk
couldn't get a 2nd kill again
I think I can't go 5-1 or i need a 1-5 to be in range of 1800 with a 4-2
eh, i'll take it
could do with the extra mmr banked
ewwww
who does that
so close to being done with elite set
Then just wrap up feral and maybe try out that meme trickster build, maybe jump into shuf and try enh a final time
The lash build started to click for me last night and i just wiped out people so fast
the spec becomes better
at least they remove some button bloat
instead of pillar of frost increasing mastery, frostwyrm fury will do that
I think uh might be the fun spec
I love the idea of a necromancer in plate
what specs benefit the most from being worgen?
Anything that can break roots+slots obv
how did i miss this? lmao
huh, prot war
two killing blows
fuck
didn't get it
time to strugglecrawl with like 8 shuffles
who the fuck is this guy
https://seramate.com/eu/Draenor/Darthlie
Is he famous or something?
why would he be
I can't
who'd watch my wrinkly ass
this is not going excellent
just gonna accept that this is a healerdiff lobby
2 wins is still closer to goal
6 lobbies but could have been done in 4
@green wharf
I'm actually gonna try to push BGB on something next season
have all classes max plus multiples lol
go enh
can someone explain the math? Why 2.6mil is 12% of dks hp?(talking about last execute without overkill)
considering this his hp pull is abot 21-22 mil, but thats just bullshit
not blood dk
my theory still holds true
and one of the squishiest
yeye
when there's a dps and a healer both with cyrillic names, the dps will go 5-1 or 6-0 and the healer will go 4-2 or 3-3
Also wdyn 22m hp
do math
are you counting healing?
if 2.6mil is 12% than 100% is 21.6mil
the % is the hp amount the attack takes him to
he was 12%
he took 3.14mil execute and died (500k overkill which means it took 2,6mil to finish those 12%)
are you accounting for absorbs?
even without execute u can see similarities higher with 2.29mil mortal strike)
details show it
do you have combat logs?
send it to me
Or upload it on wowarenalogs and view everything abou thim there
Or dont lmao
gets even harder when u face one that does 30 death strikes per game
DK is weak as fuxk
worth less than afro's ass hair on the black market
Like literally doesnt matter
and yet he survived this for 6min
Yes
I state this again, it doesnt matter lmao
There are probably 400 things yall could do better
if you dont manage to kill a dh/dk within6 minuted
as ret/warr
I am not talking I am best
And I am not talking they played bad even though "its a dk"
But no, dk dods not have 22m hp
good lobby bottom, then two shit lobbies right after
which is actualy scary af in certain comps
the game wants that 50/50 winrate and will get it no matter what
deva fdk hello
even if it has to put me with wintraders
than its just might be details thats wrong, was asking cause numbers didnt fit well there
i refer to this again
end of ssn thing
they are in hurry to get paycheck
yeah it's def. off
Details is dumb
So yeat
I dont think they will
but thats me
I left a shuffle
priest kept yapping about zErO tReMoRs when I broke his fears instantly whenever he got feared and I wasn't in cc
lmao
I have better things to do with my time than play with people like that
I mean you lose more than them
no fucks given
There's like a handful of hours left of the season and I'm not hitting 2.4k anyways
so if I can't play for enjoyment there's no point playing
season is cooked my gangster
my gangster
ahhh magic of shuffle
also kids were quiet all morning and then decided right as gates open to start fighting
stressful asf
went from progress to slightly below below what I got to, to completely cooked.
best season was above 2.2k
me irl
2s recovered though. If we could just snipe a couple of tired dads before bedtime we'd hit 2.1k
@sharp meteor what rating do i need to hit before you'll stop calling me a 1300 player? 😮
I’d assume 3s rating since everything else is fake
I heard you're in need of a win trade buddy
I offer my DK
lol
lol
why isn't your dk in 3s?
the last minute glad dream is bait i feel like
For you yea
It can be
Everyone you played with already hit glad
dh boomie also feels gimp
You gotta hone your skills so they don’t keep ditching you
After you glaive you gotta chaos strike blade dance
so hard
Idk, i never understood that spec
Insane 3 button rotation
yeah but it matters
ye but its braindead easy
Glaives light up. Throw them. Press 2 buttons after that
yea I don't get it
Make a WA
lol
have brain
WAs aren't the solution to everything
they are
I just didnt know the mechanics of the spec. I never read into it or was told
also i turned a hunter into a smear
Bro's called Real Bodybuilder and plays DH over warr
Insane
I mean it's the stars denying you glad at this point
Agree
The cabal don't have to lift a finger
What are the odds you guys can teach me how to actually play warrior fast enough that i can carry my wife to 2.1k with a less weird class?
Remember i'm stupid
its warrior...
It’s made for stupid
And it's slayer warrior
200 shuffle rounds and didn't break 1800 on fury
Your brain could be flat
Lol
Any changes worth doing to my gear before trying?
wait what
i think the gear thing is broken
oh shit, yeah i have a great mog for my war
i should play it more
tbh, let's do it. Sounds fun
stats seem fine 
I Bought A Scale To Measure The Weight Of Deez
The squat in your pfp is high af - never forget
it's the same thing i logged out in after hitting 1800
sec
ignore the name
and it's in combat
I had a taco food truck for breakfast yesterday
Wtf is tony
An amalgamation of facebook boomers
Lmfao
Agreed
Not a very impressive aura, but aura nonetheless I guess
I read "puréed unfiltered ass" first
Free ride through college thanks to his bfa glad aura
fucking healer difference loobies
dude is a monk and cant kite a warrior
this mode, is swear to god
the two kills from the warrior were on the monk, against me
Hiding rating... 
it was just to get a smaller picture
Oh my, he's gettin close to 2100
wtf with Scardrex?
Sus crop
why, i lready showed the rank
i got this yesterday, quite happy 
full thing now
im 190% sure, actually monkeys play shuffle
i got a shaman who simple cannot read
fucker went 1/5 cause he refuse to attack what people told him
how this dude, with only honor gear got into a 2k rating match i have no idea
i feel like 2k rating is base at the end of the season
feel like i played an alt and my first games were at 2k

remind me, if spell reflect is consumed, does it still reduce magic damage taken for the 5 seconds?
Yes
wat
Why the fuck am i doing code now
ok fuck, finally
An icon that tells me how much damage i deal during avatar
ignores pets and shit
Immediate feedback on how well i executed my damage window
neat

is that the face of someone who thinks it's a problem, or someone who is afraid to ask if they can have it adapted to the spec of their choice? 🙂
its the face of someone who find amusing
2 living ones
that i know of
Youth is tricky
at least i'm not this guy
Just have 1. 9 months now and I think we’ll stop with 1
adding another is not +1 in difficulty
but man was it worth it when they're good with each other
But life goes from slightly more inconvenient to extremely inconvenient
people who get a 3rd child like 10 years after their 2nd definitely missing some enchants if you know what i mean
36m was onebutton spec. 52m was manual play
the other two are just tests to make sure addon works
number after parenthesis is the number of unique targets hit
very consistent damage
My kids make me feel guilty when I play “you’re always on your computer dad:(“
My wife doesn’t care, she’s having a lot of girls nights
wait until you find out you're the one who aborted it
i play hours upon hours of minecraft with my kid
life is good
well i sure didnt, since my rank is the same
Been hanging with her personal trainer a lot too
He’s a good friend to her and frees me up for WoW time so I can push 1800 cr
Reminds me of the time I took care of Bev's wife while he was pushing duelist

lol i can't tell if your trolling or real @frank knoll
#myretreroll
enh or nothing
i heard there's a meme trickster build for sub that's basically combat but sub
is that the move? 1 button rotation! ive been doing it wrong this whole time 
Rip Big Bev
According to my single test i lost 15m damage in my burst on a dummy.
oof
Bro, frost is shit compared to arms
not even a question
only good thing we have is the silence
dk has no charge or mobility so it's unplayable
they do have mobility
the horsemen spec
the horseman thing is really cool though
This is for next patch
meh
dont like how the frostchyte shit is going on
trying to make mandatory
Real, might as well play spriest
Same level of mobility
I've been enjoying Emma Frost 
4x grapple hook is S+ tier
You'll probably macro it with empowered rune weapon and never think about ERW again
trade one button for another
It’s comical this is rven allowed in pvp
it's a shame outlaw is kinda bad and awkward to play tho
might have to main it for s3 just for grapple hook :)
@fickle forge
bars
sandbag ass spec in most contexts
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Do we get comp stomp next week or is this company screwing us again
@urban skiff
There's schedule like 3-4 months ahead iirc
CHECK WHEN YOU'RE HOME THEN YA HOE
I graduated from that already. Mastered if you will
ITE
Any gun wounds?
Blisters on trigger finger?
Flawless victory
But I only went to high school for 9th grade then I did an early college program
The college had fuck tons more crime. Twas hardmode
The high-school did have a couple of students fuck in the 1 elevator in the whole building tho
lost because it's a fucking shaman
But I was taking college courses (not an AP course, in the college itself) in 10th grade onwards
And fuck u dummi
taking away my hex and shears with this stupid shit grounding totem
You trying to free Hex into an Rsham?
They need no fingers for you to do that
i got a few off but between sub rogue stun locks and all the shaman's shit I never got any that meant anything
I can't figure out what order to do shit vs rshams
I mean you should never win against sub in 2s
Like should be borderline impossible for them to lose
If you're winning then it's cause it's 2.1k mmr
Even my trash sub I've first timed is near 2.3k mmr
HAHA
Participation award kinda thing?
No. Each school in our county had X amount of slots each year. My school was small so we had 10. The year I applied, me and one other dude applied.
So more, no competition lul
The other dude flunked out of it pretty quickly
we generally win against them
yeah everybody knows sub rogue never ever loses 🙂
Streaming muted 2s
chaos unfolds
@fierce elm having aneurisms from my ui
that ui is nuts, i love it
it needs a cleanup
Boosted again 
YUP
Congrats lil bro
I'm starting to feel a little over how so many other specs have access to complete immunities and hp resets
Tired of killing a paladin 4 times in 2s
not for enh
I feel ya there. Gotta pop parry when a boomy puts moonfire on me
fuck yea
yesterday we had a dh who insisted on killing my surging totem every time i put it down
@urban skiff This isn't warrior
i zigged when I should have zagged
What the fuck
what
mages are so difficult fo gith
Where is your root breaker button?
don't have it
jump every 30 feels better than a rootbreak they plan around every min
was just a proc winds
i think
we can hear you, so you can just shout if you think we dum
b
I'm not wearing headset rn
Eating my chicken and rice
Also wdym we
Your wife on the intercom?
it's speakers
i think that was messy but went well
had the druid under 1m in the opener
and kid awake
i think
🙁
yea kid distracting me
Take care of it then
i have no idea how to shorten them
Kill faster
Reroll
Or play what'd actually make sense for enh+disc in 2s
i think it's too late to change and relearn
Voidweaver and Stormweaver
@tardy vortex A furry is trying to hit us with a crypto scam
<@&257983573498265600>
Sorry Valkure
better??
What the fuck did I just watch
i think they're bots
I was promised a crypto scam.
The lock just stood still
I feel scammed.
And you didn't kick at all lmao
Someone else was faster than you Mwahi then
You gettin old
I CAN KICK OR I CAN DAM
You can actually do both
🐌
Can we rename Late to Early already
yea i know but both my brain cells are competing over control over my feet and reminding them there's hands is just
He's literally always the fastest
Wait, is the mod color rainbow now too?
No.
never
Is that what it is?
You don't have to go fight the MM when he lands the first trap dude
what is going on
You can just run around the pillar and let them waste their CC chain
i mean it made him forget to deal damage
No, you just spent your lasso on nothing lmao
When you can just step 3 pixels to the right and have to spend nothing
Your wife also needs a stronger dispel game
Are you targeting with your mouse? @urban skiff
nop
just stuck in micro cc right when there's one global left for something to die
sometimes i use my mouse if my left hand is busy
It really looks like you're clicking nameplates to target
one win to go
That is 2 wins
i have a weakaura that shows me where my mouse is at all times, sometimes i reposition it so the range suits my angle etc
I completely get why you struggle with kicking off-targets if you aren't at the very least tab targeting
Focus kick is only good enough in 2s really
Tru, but im just out of key binds for arena123 kicks.
I dabbled in it with rogue, survival, dk.
Do you not have a mouse with buttons?
This is what I have for binds on enh
i have side buttons but they're mostly rotational
And I have less buttons than you
@spice hornet mid is off but we can hear you
love the commentary
carry us to 2.1k
lmao
"didn't think you were gonna get it"
jam up means blend, right?
Yes
eh, if i was lash he'd be gone in a global
gotta play the hard mode
I CAN'T SEE HOTS
HELP ME
He did
Nice Zercher congrats
@tribal holly
Someone pin this
Pin what
This is an educational success of this entire channel
Skillful
This is hguge
we need it to be pinned until at least 2 weeks into the season
Actual fucking gamer
This is a celebration of community
And zercher's commitment
WHAT NEEDS TO BE PINNED
He did the thing
This
GOD STOP BEING OLD
Is this a meme or for real?
For real
For real
Absolutely for real
Its just his wife carrying him
You have no idea how much community effort has gone into this lmao
Enjoy.
Totally is
Zercher is the living proof of "anyone can learn pvp" even the most dadgamer in history
Now make @knotty atlas learn
Bro
@sharp meteor
You have no idea xD
Me and kargish did play with him
We unironically won most of our games
Needed like one more session to 1800 but mwahi was like "biatch im too fabulous for that cba" and went to collect his mogs
Or mounts, i dont remember
huge
I saw it in real time
And my wife did it playing oracle
should have clipped it, wish I had stuff enabled for that
that was such a convincing win
I can't believe it
and these SHITTY images
do you want me to point at the important bitsies?
I still cant decipher them
no clue
I really hate Zercher's damage meter ingame
Cause it puts whoever is doing the top dps in the last 2 seconds on top
So Zercher is often top damage and sitting #4 on the meter
kek
eh
I don't do much damage
this jullius fellow has some nice ratings
is he in here?
aaah, you had me there for a second
Goodge day
all round a really good day
Is your wife free? @urban skiff
gone to bed
RIP
You wanted to be carried to 2.1k too?
hehe
Yeah we need a pro duelist priest
I have trouble reading those death logs too
what's difficult
you take a line, for example 77% hp
then the line above that contains the next 1 second of damage and healing instances, then the new % number is when those plus/minus numbers are resolved and you get a number go up or number go down
the little number next to the line in the damage side and the healing side denotes the sum of that one second
gg
Thanks for all the support you guys
Even @wheat jay has glad. Anyone can pvp
And you dont, clearly not anyone
I can't get glad
Not unless I change everything about me
But I don't queue 3s 
Didn't you see earlier? The cabal let mud get glad
oh shit
they were too busy to deal with me
that explains why the final fights were so easy
Cuz you're too bad for it
The replays are on wowarenalogs if anyone can figure out how to view the replays and and wants a laugh
You onto something
I am too bad to open lfg and put up with the bs found within
Eh, can get other shit done in queue. Can do the world content or farm shit or jork it
I'm just too lone wolf for 3s.
Even pve I just pug despite knowing like 10 guilds lol
this is why i find my bs (bladestorms) in here instead
carefully curated warriors
You don't even play warrior
@fierce elm he's back and there's secret tech we never knew about
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1mgirok/why_are_some_players_using_dragonflight_s4/
I was on my warrior today
to craft pve weapons for my shaman
yep
People's champion! Gratz
and ty for making us a part of your journey
TV reality 🤣
I should have clipped some of these matches
the sheer chaos and stupidity
win by deleting a resto druid through tree of ancients
lore of trees?
art of the tree form ancients lore of art?
i may be misremembering
I see NS bark skin frenzied regen
I did an evil thing. I waited for the hots to fall off the warrior while druid was in stealth so he'd have to do a ton of shit after trying to rakestun my wife
which i successfully grounded of course
just checked and druid died 15 seconds after coming out of stealth
you can ground rakestun? serious q
well they cyclone after, always
My wife got the killing blow with SW:D
oh well, bedtime. I think i earned rest
2.4k next season
gn :)))
enh gonna be absolutely wild when they fix the set bonuses
arms or fury next season?
@tulip cargo arms or fury next season?
i think arms but hoping fury will pull ahead lol
jus wanted to see what others thought
I dont think anyone can form an opinion rn
There is no PvP testing pretty much on PTR
all we know are some buffed numbers that doesnt mean much
i see
?_?
afro asks this guy arms or fury just to say 'i dont think anyone can form an opinion rn'

I wanted to be a sarcastic asshole
lolol
lol
it happens :')
I gotta be awake for like 8 more hours to watch Street Fighter 6 top 8 at Evo
ITS FUCKING almost 1am
u guys think bloody tokens will prob reset with new patch right
they always do
ok might as well buy transmog then
What do we know so far about next season , buffs or nerf for warriors ?
Hahaha.. how can I be normal again
NEVER
Did u see what I get yesterday ?
no
shut up lmfao
gz, did u use lfg to find peeps
Jesus Christ how do you Q that much and stay sane
No glad for me
LOL
no shit Tony
Instead of playing 1-2 classes tops and guaranteeing it you spent too much time doing weird stuff like enjoying the game
This game isn’t about enjoyment
It’s about pain
And repetition
Just win?
hopefully can get honor gear this week
the people need some content
and yeah this upcoming season my playtime on alts is gonna get cut down
lol
I always confuse this one
It should be before season start
but I can also confuse myself
Honor gear is better than what we have rn?
regardless you should have 15k honor saved up
SHADY SHUT THE FUCK UP
I SWEAR TO GOD
YOU ASKED THIS LAST SEASON TOO
lol i just blew like 30k honor on my alt DH with less than a week left
Damn forgot that
what was the answer
In classic it’s not like that
lmfao god
This is new system for me
you are my worst enemy and like the best guy in here
and I want you to know that
But yes, get your honor cap up before season start regardless
Okey good 👍
We are most likely using the cloak eventually, so do the story
SMFH
smh lol
be ahead of what lmao
crate farming gives good honor can use it to get ur first cap to and buy a conq item
next season im just sweating the crap out of holy pala, even if i have to get 2600 in shuffle to get 2400 in 3v3
guna just q shuffle while waiting for lfg pugs and actually not quit 2 months into season
Just do whatever else, pretty sure doing BGs or the Brawl is faster than crate farming
You are gonna hit your first cap on conq within a few games anyways
probably, i played a bunch of alts to 1800 so i have enough honor to gear a couple chars
I'm gonna que Blitz fo sho
is early seas blitz a trapski
its all RNG anyway huh
i just like how i was rank 37 for a bit in blitz at the start of the season, now its the end of the season im like rank 160
the absolute worst thing about a new season
honestly they need to delete stats on conquest gear make it only cosmetic purchase
just makes it harder for ppl to play mid season, no pve'rs wana farm a full conquest cap
i just feel so stupid i get keep getting 2200 at the start of season when max players are like 2500, and i stop playing now ppl are 3150, thats 600 rating of inflation im missin out on
even if u just do 1 +10 mythic dungeon a week by mid season u will have a decent ammount of mythic slots, then u can craft the rest
thats what id do if u dont wana hard commit to a mythic guild
then u can join one mid/late season like int he .5 patch
i got one mage on my loby
Ya I've been posting on my bnet but i dont think many of them raid these days. lookin for a mythic guild
I've raided hall of fame 2 seasons before the guild disbanded
I didnt even get aotc this season
no 1 will inv
feel like nobody cares till last patch where theres a aotc mount
kind of like 3v3 lol
feels so hard to get back into wow
yeh i should have played the end of this season, but i was playin fury and they kind of nerfed the hell out of the heal reduction
and i didnt feel like re getting in the groove for arms when mop is releasing
was playing mop at 2100 mmr yesterday, faced a 2800 mage, was pretty interesting
since my mage was 1800 exp
what class are you on mop
arms war
part of me wishes i could play druid more mw really well to find groups whenever i wanted
ive been trying to get into healing on retail
were playing mage war rdruid, literally 90% of the comps we face are survival hunter war druid
my plan next season is play hpal
install the addon that deletes chat and just grind solo shuffle till im like 2500 then find 3's team
Do you know how i light the incense on the kunlai quest in mop
lol
nvm i think i got it
youtube has been a lifesafer with questie missing so many quests
will i get sha loot under 90
i doubt it
he respawns every 20 mins so no sweat waiting, just try kill him before reset if ur not guna make that
bonus rolled and got nothing from sha this week 😭
i havent seen anyone with bloody dancing steel yet i dunno if its just not added to vendor yet or if just noone has the rep to make regular dancing steel
Should I be slayer or colossus with evoker in 3s?
Think that depends more on what your opponents are than what your teammate is
Okay. So against double melee is a solid colossus pick?
@green wharf I’ll be in Iguazu falls next month
Can I hire you for a personal tour?
im not from argentina
I’m going on the Brazil side
if you knew how far that shit is from me

@spice hornet 14 2s games on mop just took me about 2 hours
On retail that’s 30-40 3s games

HOW IS THE CABAL NOT A THING
They obviously raised the minimum requirement to be on murlok.io just to keep me off of it
@fierce elm aww yir, I'm off to work. There's stuff for me to do
1-3 billable hours let's go
hows this for non bleed build? champions spear over thunderous roar?
Looks standard
thanks, bleed just feels awk to me, dont find a lot of good opportunities to rend/tclap
It's also kinda ass on slayer
Slayer does prob the most ST dam in the game for the melees
how is spear on slayer?
Completely fine
Roar is more damage overall, but it's fine to play for tether when slayer crits as much as it does and don't get anything from amping bleeds
are there any new blitz rewards for winnign X games on elit rank?
Last season you got like a flag toy or something... jus tpushed 2,8k in the first 2-3 weeks of the season and then stopped pvp'ing.
Warlord title or w/e it's called
Rank 1 title
yeah, ok, thats obvious, but i thought maybe some smaller toys or something i dont know about.
Thank you, but not going for that title, maybe next season again.
I mean ye, but that is all there is in any of the brackets
2.4k is where it stops until R1, except for 2s
@copper fox @spice hornet Lmao they finally nuked the China win trading
Lei Huo, the NetEase substudio operating World of Warcraft in China, has released a lengthy blog post decrying boosting and malicious behavior undermining fair play and achievement for genuine players, citing disciplinary actions taken against over 27,000 players and stricter enforcement measures to include revoking gear drops and season-long su...
But China numba 1
Rip the 5k dream
Yea ik I ain’t pressing q unless I have to tho lol
Gnome op
Q right now and drop out of R1
Do I look like Ndog or whatever his name is
lol
“Hey they’re making fun of me can you get me some rating back”
Gd I've been playing an unhealthy amount of wow
No glad so clearly not enough
Let’s mass report him
I've done the same rotation on thousands of mobs now
in classic
leveling
lol
i wonder how many exactly
flame shock lava burst lightning bolt earthshock lol
Agreed
Castsequence macro that shit, m8
Mud face reveal!?!
Oh no. That poor 5k rated DH
thats me!
cape bis next season??
BIS?
best in slot
IS IT BIS?
I was gonna tag you specifically so you could ask your crystal ball
but I figured they gave stats on everything
I am losing my MIND
SO IT SHOULD BE A CLEAR YES OR NO
Its gonna be bis eventually unless there is some hidden fucking PvP mod on it
But, the upgrades drop from PvP content, it's gonna be higher than conquest in ilvl iirc
and choosable stats+a proc
that means best in slot
hey @elfin surge what does BIS mean
Also someone told me they were gonna 69 my mom what does that mean
Best in slot for that specific equipment piece.
no answer
The campaign is like fuckin bugged for me i think
@chilly pivot what does it mean when someone wants to 69 my mom
if this survey is true
might be worth investing to mop pvp
and get the bloody dancing steel illusion
This survey went around before this too iirc
blizzard has stated before that Classic chracters wont be in Retail
however who knows
I wouldn't put it past them
they also said there wouldnt be rDF in WOTLK classic and they still brought it back
RANDOM DUNGEOUN FINDER
I figure I am not gonna play classic by the off-chance that blizzard shafts all non-classic players in the future
worst case it happens and maybe I can finally decide to quit the game
but nah they need to make a reboot
cuz i want corrupted ashbringer
literally skipped vnailla
best case it happens and the things are available for everyone
but i played TBC-MoP classic
neutral case it remains the same
KEKW
i can get my elite set from WoD on monk




