pvp

[fickle forge]

Yeah and we never needed it

Our baseline power is too strong

[wheat jay]

You two are gay tho

[lavish quest]

Are you saying they are resistant to their feminine wiles while you are weak to it?

[wheat jay]

they are immune to females

cuz they have no interest in females

I on the other hand had to evolve a countermeasure, which after said loss resulted in me winning against every other egirl

innate immunity vs evolution

[green wharf]

are you saying they were born gay but you evolve into gay?

[lavish quest]

Pretty sure I remember Artji mentioned crumbling when he talks to a girl irl

[wheat jay]

i dont remember that lmao

[wheat jay]

evolution, darwin supports that

[fierce kite]

First time tring colossus arms in pvp. I see that people run Ignore pain. Is the goal to always have it up? or just when getting smacked

[lavish quest]

Well maybe not in those exact words

[lavish quest]

Technically only when you need it. But.. you'll almost always take dmg so I just have it macroed to op

Shield so small, you still gonna have to pop parry if you get a moon fire on you

[fierce kite]

okay, ill try that, thank you.

[wheat jay]

i did have that issue when i was like 17-18 tho

cuz i was very insecure due to me being fat as fuck at the time lmao

like, now i am not skinny, but i have that muscular fat build, rather than soft fat build lmao

[fierce kite]

you can have both thunderclap slow and hamstring on same target right?

[lavish quest]

Well technically. Doesn't do anything tho

[lavish quest]

Easy answer. Just don't talk to women amirite

And then when they talk to you, be dense as hell.

Some say strong like stone, I say dense like stone

[bright kraken]

Can my spec save me?

[lavish quest]

Not if it's a mage spec

[wheat jay]

what do you play now?

[bright kraken]

On my mage I play frostfire fire

I mean my main is sv but you know that much

[lavish quest]

First a furry, now a mage. At what point will we finally deport?

[bright kraken]

You can add Aussie to the list of crimes

Though, being Aussie implies I had another list of crimes

[lavish quest]

I don't have anything against Aussies per say. If anything they'll throw another shrimp on the barbie for me

[rancid granite]

an art form to come across as mysterious and soft spoken when really you're shy and dumb... I've mastered this skill

[green wharf]

can you keybind this "doublebutton" on this mouse?

im planing to buy one like this, mine is fucking up the right click

[graceful moon]

only frost sucks

i play only arcane

[bright kraken]

Amen

[graceful moon]

could you believe this game had deadzone for hunters

and if it still existed today hunters would be on suicide watch vs modern spec warriors

[lavish quest]

The legend himself

[worldly oriole]

lol

[wheat jay]

ngl id like that

make survi into that

true hybrid

[sand sundial]

madman

[sand sundial]

we deport the US ppl first, bigger offenders

[bright kraken]

Why for

[lavish quest]

Because isn't fire garbo?

I mean it's not woyer but still

[frank knoll]

Noaaar

Artji simped for snowmixy??

[wheat jay]

no, i lost a game against her 😦

shes ugly imo

[frank knoll]

Wasn’t her whole thing getting carried anyways

[wheat jay]

ye

[frank knoll]

Yeah same with the Nalia chick or whoever

I hear egirls are all nasty
That sniperwolf dated one of her mods irl and after they broke it off he said she only showered like once a week

[lavish quest]

So simped?

[lavish quest]

This means something

[fickle forge]

Back on your spec for some reason @urban skiff

[urban skiff]

are you playing peestormbringer?

[wheat jay]

not rly, i lost to a transaction

and i'll leave it at that with no further comments

[lavish quest]

Damnit, Visa back at it again

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1198213371154153484.gif?quality=lossless&name=ragey&size=48

[fickle forge]

No I am totemic

[urban skiff]

oh

I'm sort of vibing with totemic now

don't hate it as much

kind of funky how people just immediately run away when I use primordial wave with it but not in the other build

I think maybe their warning weakauras are reacting to the totem of wrath?

[fierce kite]

When is the best time to use demolish? Im finding people are moving out of the range

[urban skiff]

great details keeps breaking now

[urban skiff]

when they can't or won't move

Or when you need them to move

[fierce kite]

Right, but do you set up burst with stormbolt on target or something? to lock them down for that first demolish

[fickle forge]

Stun

I don't understand shuffle atm though

You seem to be getting completely fresh people all the time between duelist and elite

[urban skiff]

why do you think I've been complaining about the weird lobbies I'm getting

At least for sub rogue it's been a special kind of hell where any random person can completely wreck my lobby just by being themselves

[fickle forge]

Nah your sub rogue doesn't count cause it's on 1800

These are people that Q up with 0 or like 400 cr on 2.3k mmr, and they get completely trashed

[urban skiff]

I was 2k

now it's 1500

I changed nothing

[fickle forge]

I mean you are playing sub rogue tbf

It's like the hardest melee in the game

[urban skiff]

It felt super easy earlier

but the wall of randos was insurmountable

then I passed it, and it was fine. Then a few unlucky lobbies just knocked me straight down into casino-land again and I haven't been able to roll good dice enough to get back up past the random warriors who knows how to burst down a rogue but can't survive when a sub rogue is on their team

[fickle forge]

I'm telling you man

There is not a single warrior who knows how to burst below 2k

Hell, below 2.2k even

[urban skiff]

truth

I'm clueless on my war

but also haven't touched it since i was bitten by the enh bug. (except to collect 1800 gear early season)

[fickle forge]

I swapped it up @urban skiff

[urban skiff]

PEESTORMBRINGER??

[fickle forge]

No prim wave

[scarlet barn]

Mmr inflation +people running for last week to get rewards

[fickle forge]

It's completely crazy though

Whether I Q up as dps or healer, there are people who show up with 0 cr on 2.4k mmr

And they get it raw unlubbed cause they don't stand a chance

[scarlet barn]

With 5-6 round wins you can jump from 1800 to 2000 in some cases

So thats why

[cyan sluice]

How do you do it

[fickle forge]

x2 OP -> Roar -> CS -> Stun -> Demolish -> MS

If you really want to one shot something

Like ma man Zercher claims he's being

[boreal veldt]

do you macro ava onto a button or just raw dog it, i have it attached to demo

[fickle forge]

I just raw it

[boreal veldt]

valid

[fickle forge]

I'm used to having it as its own thing since it was your root breaker not too long ago

[boreal veldt]

wait did they revert the 5% buff to warrior or am i tripping

[verbal tangle]

We were at -5% aura prior to the buff

[boreal veldt]

ok so that was a -5, i thought it was a strike through

[verbal tangle]

That's how they always denote what is being changed is with strikethroughs

[boreal veldt]

yeah it just bleeds into the negative sign so i was trippin afterall

[verbal tangle]

We were like -24% at the start of DF iirc

[boreal veldt]

warrior just exists with too much aura

[lavish quest]

Strike throughs are the old value

Warriors learning to read today

[rancid granite]

never meet your heroes

[boreal veldt]

mistakes

[fickle forge]

It lowkey feels like cheating

[sand sundial]

fire is banger but is a little monkaS

[urban skiff]

i don't get one-shot. I oneshot

[onyx marlin]

bruh i didnt see the "-" and thought we were getting 5 % less dmg xdd

[fierce elm]

One shot into 1500

got em

[rancid granite]

plugs nose OnE ShoT iNtO 1500

thats how u sound

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[tiny canyon]

Is there some secret tech to fighting mages or is it just supposed to be agonizing

[fierce elm]

Well, some specs always have to have something against another spec

Welcome to that world

[tiny canyon]

I swear every single time i get in meele range they somehow pull another blink out of thir ass

[fierce elm]

WoW PvP has some rock-papper-scissor elements that have to be overcome by skill

Just like other PvP games

[tiny canyon]

True, i kinda feel like im hitting my skill ceiling and its not a great feeling

Or at least idk how to really improve

[rancid granite]

this is still the kinda thought i keep coming back to in what the skill actually is

in shit like LoL it's more prominent

but at least for me in WoW it's hard to see what is what

[fierce elm]

In shit like WoW its almost prominent

whatchu mean

[rancid granite]

uhhh

[fierce elm]

Damage, CC application, Uptime, Defensive trading, being aware of CDs that might be up, awareness of where everything is, class and spec niches

[rancid granite]

it's easier to see strategy/skill diff in LoL etc than WoW

[fierce elm]

Its literally that simple

[rancid granite]

yeah

it really is simple but it's just harder to grasp lol

idk

[fierce elm]

I mean

post a replay and you will have exactly what you need to do written out in about five minutes

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1macydb/how_i_farmed_2100_cr_with_0_braincells_burning/

I need to drop rating down to 1500 so I can try this

people are going to absolutely lose their shit when they get run over by immolation aura

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[urban skiff]

I just tested it with my garbage unenchanted un-gemmed gear and it was like 1m dps from the aura alone

Downside is it looks cool but lacks resets on immo aura so you can only really stack it high for meta

upside is if you get it running you're going to murder people with immo aura while you're in CC

I love these max troll specs

[wheat jay]

just rng aura procs, ye

one thing tho, 2100 is low, so its kind of a cheese build

okay zerch, it looks but dont be baited hard xD

mans doing 2mil dps on 3 ppl and like 20% of it is immo aura

at best

yep, exactly 20%

its mostly demonsurge

oh wait, other way around

damn im impressed now a bit lol

one thing tho, good luck EVER getting this build going without procs of immo aura lmao

unless you want to wait one minute between your goes

aaaaand placement 2s games, ye

i'd play any other build ngl XD

[lavish quest]

Jesus, you mention DH and Artji just goes

Really reminds him of his glory days in DF

[wheat jay]

👍

yes

gonna call out bait build if i see one

so my boy zercher doesn't fall for it

[lavish quest]

Artji will make sure you bait correctly

Good man

[wheat jay]

yes

its like seeing your homie going for a fat chick

you gotta save your homie, right?

[lavish quest]

It's chill, she's just thicc

[wheat jay]

thicc and fat is not the same

thicc is good

fat is not good

[lavish quest]

Well homie likes what he likes. Let him go off king

[wheat jay]

no

no homie of mine will go for fat chicks

[fierce elm]

Just becase you are lonely doesn't mean you have to force everyone else to be

[full quiver]

He has no glory

[verbal tangle]

[urban skiff]

Isn't that like... Half the specs in the game though? 😁

[urban skiff]

tbh the season is ending and I'm not going to do anything impressive with DH either way

may as well have a bit of fun and troll low rated people / gatekeep that 1800

[wheat jay]

i meaaaaaaaaaaaaan not rly

[urban skiff]

With a few tiny tweaks it's basically just a regular meta build

just no essence break

but that's a NUANCE

[warm plinth]

Next season is my first pvp season im playing from the start

[lavish quest]

So time for your glad

[frank knoll]

Carved out a 5/1 in a double mage ret lobby at like 1970mmr
Got my rating to 1880
Pretty happy with that I thought I was gonna go 3/3 best case

The elite warrior set this season is actually pretty dope

I didn’t even know what it looked like until i got it

[wheat jay]

Thor lifted 505kg

Nice

[worldly oriole]

Thats almost as big as my bitch

[lavish quest]

Thor loss 200k subs

[lavish quest]

You 29 and unemployed, you ain't go no bitch

[worldly oriole]

lel

[wheat jay]

Not that thor

Im talking about big Thor not smol Jason

https://tenor.com/view/hafthor-thumbs-up-smile-gif-16333271

[lavish quest]

[warm plinth]

on a healer yeah, fuck dps queues

maybe mw

[lavish quest]

Can't get glad in solos

So...

[wheat jay]

I actually saw a dumber take than his today

Legit

[lavish quest]

Yo wtf, how is me saying keks a dumb take

[wheat jay]

Some polish youtuber, very small channel, made 30min long video about how he thinks games are service, not goods or licenses, and that skg is entirely about forcing developer to sell physical copies only

[urban skiff]

i think it's missing something to be really cool

[wheat jay]

No i meant pirate software, thor or whatever

[lavish quest]

How have you not trimmed these kind of polish

[wheat jay]

I dunno man, some people are so stupid you wonder how they remember to breathe

[lavish quest]

We'd never put up with endless numbers of idiots here in the US

[urban skiff]

is it normal for details to not pick up anything in a duel?

[warm plinth]

yeah

[fierce elm]

yes

Details can't really track duels

idk why

[urban skiff]

Isn't the prompt for wargames /wargames?

[fierce elm]

it just cant'

[urban skiff]

fucks sake, have to have min 4 players to wargame

😦

guess it's dicking around in skirmish time then

[urban skiff]

@wheat jay just a skirm but that's a lot of damage

It's stupid but kind of works

instead of waiting for essence break I'm just waiting for immo instead

[wheat jay]

Can't take skirmish seriously

And can't take low mmr seriously, cuz in low mmr every build and every class or spec or comp works

And I can't imagine this build being good at high mmr

Since if you lose any uptime at all you're just gone from the game

You have to stay on target for like 15 seconds uninterrupted to kill

[urban skiff]

i mean, nobody said it was good

I just want to make people at low mmr shit themselves because it's incredibly unfair amounts of damage into cleaves

[north thicket]

Holy shit! MUD converted into a double agent for the Harry Potter fan club?!

"Unleash the jugs." 😆 The World is healing!

I have a crazy stupid question

[fierce elm]

when do we have a not-crazy stupid question here

[north thicket]

Does anyone have some data on the EU Warrior 3v3 rating and participation rate over the last 5 years?

Is it normal for EU Warriors to camp 60-70% of the murlock io ladder?

Why I am asking? The Corrupted Blood incident showcased that MMORPGs are a good behaviour model for society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupted_Blood_incident

So the question is: are Warriors growing in popularity among the EU player base in the recent years?

[warm plinth]

never

so uhh frost dk

[lavish quest]

Wut is this chat

1. No one knows, it's EU. Can't even share memes there

2. Yes frost dk is a thing. Glad we figured it out

[north thicket]

Stop believing this meme shit you read in the media over the pond.

You can do whatever you want here as long it's not super cringe, and if basic human rights are violated you win over the gov by 110% in the Hague Strasbourg (for civil cases)

Focus your large gaming brains on the main question

If the Warrior class is growing in popularity in the EU over the US in the last few years

What does it suggest?

[fierce elm]

what the fuck am I reading

I would not read into class popularity and compared it to real life events lmao

[verbal tangle]

is watching the Great Firewall of Britbongistan being built in real time
don't trust your lying eyes bruv

[urban skiff]

is arms or fury more fun?

accidentally logged into my warrior again and forgot how cool 2hs look until just now 😦

imagine playing gnome to gain 25 rating or less over human

[spice hornet]

25 rating diff or 4x the amount of games played and a 6% lower WR?

Non gnome just feels awful

[urban skiff]

Or maybe first place is someone with a lot of alts who keeps rolling dice until they get a lucky character

roll up infinite characters and eventually one is going to have a string with zero mages

[urban skiff]

just to expand on the question, which is less frustrating to play?

[unique fox]

getting gatekept from 2400 by mistweavers

[urban skiff]

guess summer is over

[unique fox]

this fucking damage is absurd

[urban skiff]

what bracket?

I really want to play MW but i just don't get it

(yet, i guess)

yup, summer break is over, queues are horrible now

[unique fox]

2s

you dont even have to play good

[urban skiff]

lol

i actually love seeing mw in 2s on my shaman

[unique fox]

playing hpal war and we can cant figure it out

damage gets overwhelming

[urban skiff]

maybe that's the problem

but we're also stuck just below 2100 in 2s so

but we're playing oracle disc + enh shaman so a bit uphill

but MW teams are perfect for us and we struggle so much into rshams in teams with casters

anyone else just hate mondays?

[wheat jay]

Monday is cool

[urban skiff]

It's more a comment about the clocktower sniper who shot a bunch of people because he hated mondays (?)

and having that world quest or w/e on a monday, where you're in a tower sniping people who are just hanging out

[wheat jay]

Do monks play fistweaver now?

[unique fox]

Yes

Crackle and rushing wind kick for like 6-8m damage lol

out of nothing

[wheat jay]

Okay, cleave dem bitches whenever theyre on you

Save storm bolt or kick for crackling, you could get WA to track their stacks if you want to tryhard it

[lavish quest]

Is it even worth try harding for?

[wheat jay]

Its 2s, no

But hey some people play 2s only

Or mostly

[lavish quest]

Didn't even pay attention to it being 2s, just meant pvp in general lul

[wheat jay]

Oh

Pvp is fun thats for sure

Assuming you know how to play, playing oblivious is not as fun haha

[hot sky]

hello! does anyone have a good 1v1 arms dueling build they wouldn't mind sharing? im too lazy to try and make my own and can't find 1 on murlok etc

[lavish quest]

[elfin surge]

arms cannot duel anything sorry bro

[fickle forge]

The solution is to Q with a mistweaver

[hot sky]

would fury work better?

[elfin surge]

slightly

warrior just not designed to duel

[lavish quest]

Why so many warriors insistent on dueling

[wheat jay]

cuz they think warrior means dueling, master of combat

meanwhile warrior is a cripple on life support (healer)

[elfin surge]

I've started qing 3s again and I refuse to play colossus

Slayer all the way baby max dam

[lavish quest]

Even warrior in lore suck ass

Warrior worst class

[wheat jay]

Lore warrior kinda OP

[lavish quest]

Colossus sux

[wheat jay]

At least arms

[elfin surge]

everyone is colossus

[wheat jay]

Fury canonically just dies

[lavish quest]

Yeah especially when everything ever beats them

[wheat jay]

Everyone likes that 5% size bonus you know

[lavish quest]

Everyone is gei

[wheat jay]

I mean, we had what

Garrosh gigachad

My warchief

Amen

Thrall before he became gay

Blackhand chad

[lavish quest]

They still had to him the grape juice

[elfin surge]

Wow i take 5% more damage but i doubled the other warriors damage in a mirror

[wheat jay]

Varian chad

Saurfang chad

[lavish quest]

All dead

[wheat jay]

Granted they both died, but thats after they rolled fury

[lavish quest]

What warrior is in lore atm?

[wheat jay]

Okay ye we have no warriors left except lorthemar

[elfin surge]

Thrall had to cheat to beat garrosh in a duel

[lavish quest]

[wheat jay]

Literally only bloodelf

Noone else

[lavish quest]

Spellcasters are cheaters confirmed

[wheat jay]

Always have been

[lavish quest]

Meh, what does that guy do

[wheat jay]

Fights with a sword

Isn't dead?

[lavish quest]

Blood elves only race weak enough to not be warriors at the start

[wheat jay]

I'd say thats good for a warrior in lore

And he canonically bangs

[lavish quest]

I think it's time we all learned paladin is da wae

[wheat jay]

He's wifes the nightborne elf, thalysra

[elfin surge]

no

[lavish quest]

Tainting the bloodline

[wheat jay]

Nah, theyre both elves and both addicts

To mana and magic shit you know

Ex addicts

Man lore is wild

[lavish quest]

Meh, blood elves women hotter than nightborne

Bro fumbled

[wheat jay]

I meaaaaaaan

Ye

I guess

[lavish quest]

Continue being abused

[fickle forge]

Bro facing 1.6k warriors

[wheat jay]

Mud in abusive relationship?

[wheat jay]

Oh you meant class

Nvm

[wheat jay]

What is this low ass dps???

[fickle forge]

Playing WotLK I see

[wheat jay]

Bro what

[fickle forge]

Double disc warr

[lavish quest]

You don't face R1s gatekeeping 1800

[elfin surge]

yeah icy the disc priest

[fickle forge]

What is he playing

[wheat jay]

Where dmg, noob

[elfin surge]

frost mage

[fickle forge]

Ah okay

[wheat jay]

Gay

[fickle forge]

Bro ran colossus into WMP?

[elfin surge]

everyone does

i dont get it

[fickle forge]

Yeah that's low brain

[wheat jay]

They're dumb lol

[elfin surge]

I havent seen a single warrior thats slayer

[fickle forge]

Colossus fucking claps on cleave or high uptime

I swap between the two depending on comp

Slayer is 100% better on ST

[elfin surge]

well i qd with an hpal last night and he was not happy i was slayer

YOU DIE TO AIR

[fickle forge]

Lmao

[elfin surge]

meanwhile im doubling everyones dam

[wheat jay]

Huh

[fickle forge]

Not the 5% dam diff!

[wheat jay]

As if colo was some unkillable tank xD

[fickle forge]

I mean there are times for slayer, and there are times for colossus

[elfin surge]

i just think colo is boring

[fickle forge]

Think you're not min maxing if you can only play 1

[wheat jay]

Can we have some times for shadopan?

[elfin surge]

if i was home id show you those games

[wheat jay]

[elfin surge]

they were so crazy

[fickle forge]

Nein

[wheat jay]

But conduit boring

[fickle forge]

I mean

[wheat jay]

And slicing winds, remove both

[fickle forge]

I meeeeeeean

[lavish quest]

I support your slayer ways

[fickle forge]

Watching Bualock and Dailyshuffle opening their death logs to see my 10M Demolish+MS

That's fun

[elfin surge]

mage

[lavish quest]

Everytime I try Colo it feels so ass

[wheat jay]

Lost a mirror?

Washed

[lavish quest]

I dunno why you playing with Harry Potter tho

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[fickle forge]

Skill issue

[elfin surge]

my mage cant speak english

so we no voice

[lavish quest]

Yes, and the skill is demolish

Blows dicks

[wheat jay]

On NA server?

[fickle forge]

Just you man

[wheat jay]

Huh

[elfin surge]

yeah

hes from china

[fickle forge]

WMX is pretty good yeah

But then you face your first thunder cleave and you wanna log out

[elfin surge]

na doesnt play thunder

its only war mage

[lavish quest]

So Jose Potter

Much better

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-credit-social-уважение-плюс-уважение-gif-1626328442317885176

[elfin surge]

i dont mind no voice actually

not like that comp needs it

[wheat jay]

Nah have to voice man

If i did no voice i wouldnt be able to hear kargish slamming his desk

[fickle forge]

The desk slam era is over

[elfin surge]

i just need like 14 wins for glad and im done

im in r1 mmr now but i would need 50
wins for that

[wheat jay]

Give me 3 sessions and it'll be back

[elfin surge]

no thanks!

[fickle forge]

Odds are James quits on you first

[fickle forge]

The X wins requirement is the biggest discourager

In all brackets

[elfin surge]

lmao i just dont care for this season

ill give a spot to the plebs

[lavish quest]

No one does

[fickle forge]

I hate it man

[lavish quest]

Not even arsed enough to get 2400

[fickle forge]

Whenever it pops up "win X/Y" I just log an alt and chill the next day

[wheat jay]

Oh 100% he will

[fickle forge]

I cba being forced to grind

[wheat jay]

Man's got no mental compared to shadowlands

[elfin surge]

I've actually been having fun playing no voice slayer

just doing dam

blasting music

[fickle forge]

That's called shuffle

[lavish quest]

Let's get you into keys. Blast away

[fickle forge]

He had no mental in SL either

He just had a buffer

[wheat jay]

I guess hahaha

[lavish quest]

Artji may have been onto something unsubbing

[wheat jay]

Played some single player games

Had fun

[lavish quest]

Should have been touching grass and getting pussy obviously

Also how is po on censored but pussy isn't

[elfin surge]

Okay i'll fix it.
I've actually been having fun playing no voice with good players as slayer

[lavish quest]

Now we're 2nd class citizens

[wheat jay]

shufflers?

always have been

lmao

dog players with negative skill

/spit

[lavish quest]

So who are the good ones? Blitzers?
Those are the two modes of pvp. The others are dead and fake

[wheat jay]

3s

[lavish quest]

Dead

[wheat jay]

Better dead than noob in shuffle

[lavish quest]

Meh, one is at least technically playable

[wheat jay]

Ye, 3s

[lavish quest]

But yeah neither is great

[wheat jay]

With 15s q

Not shuffle with 45min lmao

[lavish quest]

Lul, yeah 3s, the thrilling experience of finding a group, queuing a game, then it disbanding after the one gamr

Amazing superior gameplay

[wheat jay]

It happens, ye

But you can find new teammates

Finding teammates takes like 5-10min

Max

So, 5min, and 20s q

Versus

45min q

What do you do when you do high keys

Lfg

Same stuff

[lavish quest]

Tank

[wheat jay]

You still apply to groups, same shit

Just easier to get in cuz of demand for tanks

[lavish quest]

Exactly. Everytime I try to DPS I quickly regret as it takes way too long to find groups, and I have to be subject to other tanks who suck

[wheat jay]

Takes like 5-10min in 3s tho

Principle is the same, details are different

Shuffle overall hasn't rly done pvp any good in the long term

Pre shuffle participation, with the exception of s1 df when it was introduced and was so inflated ppl were nearing 4k rating, was higher than post shuffle

Even with the need of sitting in lfg to find teammates

[lavish quest]

Pre shuffle was SL when they made pve'rs do it tho

[wheat jay]

The only thing it has done is making 1800 easier cuz you can just abuse cr gains

[lavish quest]

So it was already tampered figures

[wheat jay]

Pvers have always played pvp in numbers higher than now

And in terms of gear, it was s1 shadowlands only

They nerfed fhe interaction in s2

[lavish quest]

Well after S1 everyone quit. At least I did anyways

[scarlet barn]

:/

[wheat jay]

And pvp was no longer required to play pve at high level

[wheat jay]

Ye you quit, but participation was amazingly high

Many things contributed to that of course, like slower and more controlled gameplay

Fewer cc spells overall

Fewer cd reduction talents and passives

It was more active, despite having the most cancerous gearing lmao

[lavish quest]

Idk, I did arena in SL, BFA, didn't really play legion tbf, did arena in wod and mop. 3s always kinda sucked

It's just some day dream that it used to be great and shuffle ruined it

[scarlet barn]

Legion arena was weird

[wheat jay]

Not rly day dream, just objective facts that pvp WAS more popular

Even when gearing was literally anti-fun and anti-player

Forcing players to get 2100 and to grind 4 honor caps to upgrade gear lmao

[wheat jay]

It was haha

No gear, stat templates, weird pvp talents like auto bubble on ret haha

[lavish quest]

I mean... yes... it's bound to have been more popular because there wasn't another option

Now there is, so people chose

[wheat jay]

I mean pvp overall, not 3s

Overall pvp

Every bracket

Overall playerbase, amount of players

[lavish quest]

Pvp overall has been trending down before shuffle. So... because of shuffle the trend continued... I guess?

Pvp wasn't exactly growing

Hell wow overall was trending down

[wheat jay]

Wasnt shadowlands one of the most popular expansions overall?

Despite its many problems

Many many many provlems

Numerous issues

Lmao

[lavish quest]

It had a big return.

People left insta

[wheat jay]

Maybe it wasn't because of shuffle but because of dogshit gameplay changes in pvp

[lavish quest]

They had good marketing

[wheat jay]

Who knows

[wheat jay]

They had good moment to unlock covenant swaps, middle of s1

And itd have been best expansion ever

[lavish quest]

I mean... the maw was also ass

The overall expansion is coded like shit, still a nightmare to try to go back and do anything

[fierce elm]

@rancid granite the pedals are MOUNTED

[wheat jay]

I loved the maw, but I had a druid friend who acted as my mount lmao

Man was riding around with me and was typing to people "where's your mount bitch lmaooooooo"

He was also an ambulance for the guild, evrry time someome died he drove to ress them to not lose any stygia haha

Good times

[rancid granite]

the standard classic EQ setting

missing a big muff still but the rat kinda makes up for it

how did you mount it?

is that velcro...........?

velcro and glue

[lavish quest]

I liked the idea, but it was just tiring after a bit

And all the other grind

[fierce elm]

It absolutely is LMFAO

The lil rat has no power because I have no cables to power it lmao

so gotta pick that up

but also bringing two guitars to the store and hopefully trading for some good ass headphones so buying them then

[rancid granite]

that actually sounds so genius lmao

so you can easily move things around etc

never heard of fucking velcro before but nice lmao

[fierce elm]

all pedals have velcro on top+bottom

and then I have a single strip running in the middle

so I can mount some up and some down

Idk how to fit reverb+delay into this but I guess I will find out lmao

[rancid granite]

its incredibly genius lol

[fierce elm]

The only issue is transport

but worst case I just pull the pedals off it

Also gonna mount a Power supply on the bottom

[rancid granite]

put wheels back on the board and ride it for transport

GG easy

[fierce elm]

lmao

It has two shelf mounting things that angle it

bought for like 2 bucks

[rancid granite]

hope you're playing some classic punk, or whatever era punk for skateboarding music idk

[fierce elm]

Its all 70-80s metal kek

[wheat jay]

Ye it was 10/90 people who liked it and those who didnt haha

[rancid granite]

pedal collecting a dangerous game im so thankful for digital

either way

A+ lil setup with it

[lavish quest]

We already tried this kind of idea with getting rid of flying. And well, it just ain't gonna work

[wheat jay]

Flying sucks imo

At launch at least

Wpvp is fun when expansion starts

[rancid granite]

leveling in a new expansion with pvp mode on is one of the best experiences

[lavish quest]

Yeah, I kinda miss the no flying days

But also wow is just so... end gamey, get X done these days

[verbal tangle]

It's always been "end gamey"

People just didn't have info in ye olde days

[lavish quest]

But also I'm old now, so even when I played sod I hated waiting for people

It wasn't as end gamey in the days of limited info. People just played more casually and did what they found fun.
Tbf, it's not a wow change, it's a culture change

[wheat jay]

Dude wpvp in revendreth

I was jumpng down on people from walls with heroic leap, fear, full pop and avatar, my druid was right behind my on glider lmao

[rancid granite]

i mean we get our new wpvp zone in what, a week? :D

[wheat jay]

Hmm?

[verbal tangle]

I was in the Maw yesterday going for mount, and ganked some fuck with double Spear lmao

[wheat jay]

Do we?

[verbal tangle]

Yes

Champion's and Kyrian don't share CD

[wheat jay]

No no i meant what Aatos said

[verbal tangle]

The Covenant button just has no damage

[wheat jay]

Was he low lvl?

Or same lvl

[rancid granite]

https://youtu.be/aBP1hQYwxsA

supposed to be the new wpvp hotspot goodness place

i hope it becomes a legit hangout

we'll see i guess

[wheat jay]

Naaaah dude

Thats world quest sized zone

Scam

Better than nothing

But scam

[lavish quest]

Give up now. It's time to just be pvers

[rancid granite]

lmfao yeah i didn't actually see it before just now and : l

[wheat jay]

Nah

Too much commitment for my old age

[rancid granite]

it'll be a spot to farm like bloody token thats about it

[wheat jay]

Pvp is log in with homies, play for however long uou feel like, dip

Repeat when you want to play with yhem again

[lavish quest]

I just pug. No commitment 😎

Just awful in all the other ways

[green wharf]

undermine was quite a cozy spot overall, good for quests and pvp cause everything is close

sucks you can't fly

and sucks cause people are full of exploits in wpvp

[lavish quest]

Wait, people pvp down there?

[green wharf]

now and then

they did more at the start

[lavish quest]

I get attacked which reminds me I left WM on from something then I go turn it off lul

[wheat jay]

see thats the thing

you pug

i hate pugging

so

i play with homies only

both pve nad pvp

our experience in wow is VASTLY different

simply due to the fact that i dont normally pug anything

even if i pug keys or something there's always at least one friend with me

[lavish quest]

Me too buddy, me too

Then I pick up bnet friends along the way and still don't group with em most of the time

[wheat jay]

pugs still

[lavish quest]

I mean sure, but I play with em a good amount. I usually become an honorary guild member much of the time

[robust hearth]

@elfin surge MoP stream when?

[elfin surge]

I did yesterday

[robust hearth]

@elfin surge y tf is there no sound in ur vod?

[elfin surge]

music no coms

[robust hearth]

There's no sound at all

[elfin surge]

yeah it muted my vod cuz music

[robust hearth]

Ok the sound started at 9:03

[elfin surge]

it was just a rando stream on my alt twitch acc

[sharp meteor]

wheeze

[wheat jay]

deserved to prot player

👍

[sharp meteor]

This is the warlocks death log.

[wheat jay]

oh

sad day when tank in pvp wins

/spit

[sharp meteor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1060644258161365122/1169491014575194142/3x.gif

[lavish quest]

No, that was Notmud

[spice hornet]

LMAO

[lavish quest]

Rebound?

[sharp meteor]

Yuh.

Feels like it generally hinges on you having trinket or a healer that dispels the coil in time though because like

no lock ever just gonna

[lavish quest]

I've been meaning to try it

[sharp meteor]

free bolt into a warr with reflect up

[lavish quest]

They def will

They regarded

[sharp meteor]

nuclear deterrent

if u get team kick on cd

and ur kick on cd

and they think they can freely bolt

esp with cog

its like hi bonk 8-10m

[copper fox]

This man locked in

[sharp meteor]

just rolled a giga lob and hunter lost 3 in a row and left

[worldly oriole]

Your Rng Is Off the Hizzy My Grizzy

Really Ascending

[sharp meteor]

boutta roll destro moonkin frost mage and implode

[rugged temple]

does the weapon illusion look any good for season 3?

[sharp meteor]

erm it looks better than the s2 one

which rly should've been

tons of coins

[copper cloak]

bros just had a 6 rounder where my team mates died in about 20-30 sec flat 0 wins feels bad

im just there doing warrior stuff

[sharp meteor]

3 lobs in an hour of somebody losing a round or two and leaving

[copper cloak]

it actually felt so sus part of me think they win trading or somethinf

[sharp meteor]

wintrade favors a particular dps or healer generally

[urban skiff]

looks incredible m8

[urban skiff]

wintrading smart gives both dps and healer an uplift

[copper cloak]

well yea i ofc have no idea all just got rating just not me legit just felt like nothing could do

[urban skiff]

it's what I've been calling out with the russians in my 1300 mmr lobbies

healer can go 5-1 and the dps can go 4-2 so it's a net gain for both to coordinate

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1mbdcmr/why_is_pvp_so_unappealing_for_many_players/

How do i crosspost this to worldofpvp ?

I don't understand reddit

[fierce elm]

I only know old reddit

[sharp meteor]

ya the second they disable old reddit im out

it randomly switches to new every few days/weeks

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm is this true? About "mus" being slang?

[fierce elm]

It does mean vagina

idk if it's slang though

[urban skiff]

I THOUGHT IT MEANT MOUSE LIKE IN DANISH

[fierce elm]

I mean

it means Mouse too

and thats the general word

Its more Mouse than the other thing

[copper cloak]

bro im from the uk so they gotta ID check me on reddit *and *I have to toggle old reddit back on after , and use adblock+ firefox so youtube gets buffered bad internet day ahead.

[sharp meteor]

oi m8 gonna need u to show id for that meme

but like unironically

[copper cloak]

now i get 2 game back to back insta aborted wtf

so sus

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[turbid coyote]

I’m shit at pvp what’s the best way to hit 1800

[sharp meteor]

blitz

any spec

[turbid coyote]

Thanks

[fierce elm]

Gotta provide your ID for queues

[urban skiff]

Been calling my half swedish coworker "kontormus" for ages

[fierce elm]

Yeah he doesnt think it's Office vagina

lmfao

[urban skiff]

She

[fierce elm]

Yeah she doesn't think so either

Though here it would be officerat

[limber field]

anyone know if honor resets with the new season?

[fierce elm]

It won't

[sharp meteor]

Nah.

Just expansions.

So go into next Tuesday with 11k honor for full bis insta.

[fierce elm]

Go in with 15k honor smh

so then you can spend thje entire week doing nothing kek

[urban skiff]

Never does

@sharp meteor yo, guess how much my season conq earned is on my big sham

[sharp meteor]

hmm how muchly

[urban skiff]

I think 40k on that one

I bet i've played that character more this season than all my characters combined in any other season.
Just need 10k more arena games to be caught up in volume knowledge.

[scarlet barn]

what is your highest rating this season

[copper cloak]

no way dudes 3rd insa aborted match in a row

like wat

[scarlet barn]

EU?

[copper cloak]

yea

[urban skiff]

2180, which is my highest of any season.

I always quit at 1800 before last season

[scarlet barn]

Lots of connection issues today

[scarlet barn]

[fierce elm]

40k conquest GODDAMN

brother

DAMN brother

[urban skiff]

I'm pretty sure i can do 2.4k but it's in shuffle so like.. cheating

[fierce elm]

Same rewards as 3s and 2s

so does it matter lmao

[scarlet barn]

Indeed

[urban skiff]

Im happy if i can just hit 2.1k in 2d instead or maybe even 3s

[urban skiff]

My reward is the actual games played, and seeing my wife pride when we win is all i need

[scarlet barn]

my wife´s pride or my wife proud

[urban skiff]

Both i guess

[scarlet barn]

They mean the same thing, but you didnt write either

But im just pokin you

[urban skiff]

That's what i told my wife. Then she started giving PI to the other dps.

[fierce elm]

lmfao

I cant envision playing wiht my GF

shit would be ABUSIVe

[elfin surge]

thats because you're abusive

[fierce elm]

no I get abused

[urban skiff]

About to play right now

[urban skiff]

Should try it

worst thing that'll happen is you have to build two PCs at once forever after

Played minecraft with my kid for like 4 hours today. We built obstacle courses for each other and took turns running them

That was nice

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1mbb2se/solo_shuffle_qs_being_held_hostage/

[fierce elm]

I got an EQ pedal then autistically played Metallica at max volume for 4 hours until my GF went and got her lashes done then we had homemade pizza together

[urban skiff]

holy shit, making wife gear up her monk. Asked her how much conq she has banked to make boxes wiuth

21k

excess conq

[fierce elm]

lmfao what the hell

[scarlet barn]

With that you can buy most transmogs lol

[urban skiff]

yea

told her to buy all the boxes she has space for and send to monk

first 5 boxes contained weapon and all haste/vers pieces

[lavish quest]

Big value

[urban skiff]

said to buy at least 17 boxes to start with so that's what she did. Not a bad start at all

[spice hornet]

usuall around 10k conq almost gaurantees you nearly every piece

in my experience

[urban skiff]

oh neat

will get to test it when I try and speed gear my fdk to do 1800 in the final week

[copper cloak]

well thats a thing i guess dno if ppl would do that at 2.2~. Was just queue for the fun of it really (or lack of it more accurate )

[urban skiff]

I was queued for 40+ minutes this morning on my warrior

never tried that before. I suspect it's because i'm warrior and it has to find a lobby without arms

[frank knoll]

The best thing about Metallica is non drummers saying Lars sucks

[frank knoll]

Is this the last week?

[frank knoll]

I did it, got 1900 something in like 7 shuffles last minute
Took like 2 hours of queueing

Starter MMR is 1950 so even if you lose a lobby you’ll gain like 200 rating

[urban skiff]

starter mmr was 2006 a few days ago

[urban skiff]

Idk

[fierce elm]

I mean, in a band like that he was the weakest link

which is STILL fucking crazy

Dude filled the role perfectly

[fickle forge]

Kaboom baby

[frank knoll]

I think he kind of stopped trying once they made it
And everyone hates him for the St Anger snare which I think is sick actually
I remember learning Kill Em All on drums
Also I remember Battery being a hard fucking song

[fierce elm]

I mean everyone dropped the ball on St Anger lmao

Also doesn't help that everyone hoped they would return to their roots but they never did, you never can as a band

However, if he is the weakest musician in a band that had has: Cliff, Hetfield, Kirk, Jason, Trujillo, Mustaine

that is perfectly fine lmao

Kirk also gets disrespected by the guitar community but dude has written some crazy good stuff

[urban skiff]

survival with a mace

looks dum but also not that dum with the weapon animations

still loathe that i throw my harpoon with the same hand I have a weapon in, without even removing weapon first

and then also bombs

[verbal tangle]

because the game ass-u-mes that you are using a spear the whole time

[urban skiff]

Doesn't explain why I'm also throwing bombs with the hand

same animation

[verbal tangle]

shitty dev I guess

[urban skiff]

Should just throw with left hand instead for both things

[green wharf]

Zerche just now realizing how a fucking mess survival is

since their rework in legion

"you are a survivalist, you go into the nature with a pet and fight enemies head on melee"

you also throw fucking bombs because

[spice hornet]

@copper fox what are you buying with 50% AOE?

post rating

[graceful moon]

someone tune in supatease

he plays healer like a 1400 player

[hot solstice]

wtf with arena today?

Why do I have to take -points cause they cant fix those dcs for whole team

[jovial torrent]

i miss old survival hunter, with glaive toss, also playing mop made me realise just how bad and bloated damage is in retail, mop everything feels meaty and your best stat is crit so u get big juicy crits, even auto attacks do like 40k crits which is more than non crit abilities. They need to delete every single bit of random bullshit proc dmg in retail and bake multiple dots into eachother

[fickle forge]

I mean, retail is designed around M+ and raiding

And rotations are incredibly simplified

All for the casual dad to log on and perform decently well

[fierce elm]

Thank god warrior hasn't changed in 20 years 🫡

[copper fox]

Blue jeans

[sand sundial]

so many ret palas who just tunnel healers with all their CDs ready whole game

extremely ez to get 1800 on alts this time of season lol

[frank knoll]

🥱

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/s/4xnS3CbOlO

@fierce elm he's back

[urban skiff]

time to give fdk another chance

[spice hornet]

What’s the dk name

Giant frost?

[urban skiff]

Happyseal

[spice hornet]

Happy seal

[urban skiff]

Like my discord pic

Guild asked me to reroll to a dk for progressing some raid boss and i just picked the first thing I saw as name

[spice hornet]

Happyseal is a jumpscare

[urban skiff]

how though

?

[spice hornet]

I zone into a 1300mmr shuff and see that thing on my tram

Team

I’m scared

[urban skiff]

You go in thinking "oh this seal is happy" and then you're caught in a storm of pestilence and death

fdk is cool but I wish they'd give uhdk a real overhaul and I'd probably play that again

get it? Frost dk is cool?

It's belf but I kind of want to reroll to kthuman or hmt

just realized, fdk has like 2 choice nodes total

can probably predict what order classes get reworked in by looking at choice node numbers

20 boxes opened

[fickle forge]

It really hasn't lmao

I thought we had one of the simplest rotations atm, but I was pretty wrong

[urban skiff]

you discovered how simple enh is finally?

[fickle forge]

It takes 1 shuffle lobby for me to drop enh again

I actually Q'd a shuffle on main, so I may be going into a no no zone here

[urban skiff]

stuck with a 2h on my fdk for now, what am I supposed to change in talents to make it work until i can buy 1hs?

Didn't get any 1hs in my box. Have to play 2h for now. I drop the razorice talents and go into Breath of Sindragosa line instead?

[fickle forge]

Just the same

And then swap asap

[urban skiff]

So i put razorice on a 2h and cry?

[fickle forge]

Yes

100%

Playing frost DK without razor is like unequipping your weapon on surv

[urban skiff]

missing out on 18% strength proc is eek

[wheat jay]

Legion weapon is more than enough

[fickle forge]

Not nearly as important as razor

You can't shatter without it

[urban skiff]

Do I even care about shatters as much if I'm not dw?

razorice feels like it stacks up too slow and my damage is funneled into obliterates over froststrikes right?

[fickle forge]

Frost Strike is the main dam

[lavish quest]

You probably say 2 inches is more than enough too

[wheat jay]

i got more than 2 inches so no i dont say that

[jovial torrent]

3.5

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/chroma-key-fita-metrica-gif-20909784

[lavish quest]

[frank knoll]

Flarkness was playing with out it
Getting razor ice from oblit glacial advances

So he’d DW with stone skin gargoyle and fallen crusader
I still think running razor ice is better especially if you’re 2H

Frost strike is just too strong rn

[bright kraken]

I have no clue lmao I went with breath for the oneshot potential lol

[green wharf]

the collectors event ends today

maybe i can fetch some people on my friendlist to do x3

is war+mage a good mix or dk+mage is better

[lavish quest]

I know mud likes to play with Harry potter

[spice hornet]

Hi

[elfin surge]

Hi

[green wharf]

in fortine?

[lavish quest]

He's more a roblox kind of guy

[elfin surge]

Slander

[urban skiff]

Where did the build come from?

[bright kraken]

Murlok

[lavish quest]

He just doesn't want other to know roblox is where dem hoes at

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/ape-monkey-fall-fail-animal-gif-17964447

[copper fox]

Anyone tryna fly hack in Roblox rivals with me

[lavish quest]

Only play real rivals since them summer skins

[spice hornet]

Roblox is actually fun ngl

[fickle forge]

I've played like 1 game on Roblox and it was a horror mode

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-yakuza-0-roblox-meme-majima-gif-3692365834259778561

[worldly oriole]

damn the collectors event ended?

I was mount runned out anyway

[rapid shore]

still active in eu

[spice hornet]

Until your reset

[lavish quest]

EU always behind

[jovial torrent]

forgive us, were slow

[rapid shore]

us bug testing :D

[fierce elm]

@rancid granite home studio has been upgraded

and man are these good sounding

[rancid granite]

oh shit

does your amp have the headphone port or you got a daw now for them? =p

[fierce elm]

It can be connected to a DAW

but these are just for fun lmao

[rancid granite]

well

nice

grats :D

[wheat jay]

fucking surgeons man

cut my foot open...

[urban skiff]

I need new headphones

[fierce elm]

I had the DT770

literally the industry standard of headphones

this shit fucks

[lavish quest]

Because...?

[wheat jay]

had a lump, or a tumor

[fierce elm]

I also got 400 bucks off because I traded guitars in

So I did not spend like 550 euros on this

[jovial torrent]

wthats some woman logic, i bought 2 so i got one free! thats spending less money

what guitar did u trade in, u got a new one reecently didnt you?

[fierce elm]

ye

So traded in the two guitars I had that I didn't need

they told me I could either get cash or I could get store credit

[jovial torrent]

ezmone

[fierce elm]

and I was gonna upgrade my headphones anyways

[jovial torrent]

credits usually better, bigger deal

[fierce elm]

Yeah I got more credit

got like 50-60 bucks extra because store credit

[jovial torrent]

i really loved my audio technica headphones, but my heads too large and it made my glasses dig into my head real bad

eventually one earcup just snapped off

[fierce elm]

Had the dt770 from beyerdynamic

for like 5.5 years

now wanted to upgrade

but didn't want to blow like 800+ on a pair of headphones

[jovial torrent]

oh ye i was looking at them for a while

[fierce elm]

I also didn't want the higher priced beyerdynamics

[jovial torrent]

i ended up going with corsair wireless ones, they are pretty good only bad thing is their earmuff design is stupid af

it has like 3 barb hook things so u can twist them to take off the ear cups and replace them, but the hooks get brittle and just snap off

i feel like headphone and mouse companies have given up tbh, noone makes great mmo mouses and there very few good mid range headphones , only hillariously overpriced ones

[fickle forge]

How long do I wait before the next shuffle?

[elfin surge]

that looks like my 3s

[fickle forge]

Do my monthly shuffle -> See it's 2.7k mmr into deva, frost and ret as per usual -> Log out

[elfin surge]

Never log in -> Make money -> Live my life the way I want

[fierce elm]

I mean Logitech goated company for mice

No gaming company for headphones

[lavish quest]

They not gonna tell you which?

[lavish quest]

Replace "log in" with "stream"

[urban skiff]

I wish they made a G502 with mmo side panel buttons

[worldly oriole]

Just booked a gaming retreat

living the way i want to for real