pvp

[green wharf]

44 bucks is a fucking lot in my currency

[fierce elm]

they wilding if they think I will pay like 20 bucks for a single pizza

[spice hornet]

Oh they still call them selects too?

[fierce elm]

I can get some fucking artisinal shit for 20 bucks

[spice hornet]

USA had those like 20 years ago

[jovial torrent]

yeh still selects

what im pissed about is our local burger king closed down like 10 years ago

[spice hornet]

What country are you in

With the selects

I miss ghose

[fierce elm]

BK slaps

straight up

[jovial torrent]

uk, we had a burger king and little chef next to eachother, but they both left and got replaced with dominos and a hairdressers

[fierce elm]

the BK downplay has been CRAZY for years

[spice hornet]

Bk chicken fries are goated

[jovial torrent]

its now like a 35 min drive and requires parking in town if i wanted burgerking now

[fierce elm]

Burgers? Better, Chicken? Better, dip sauces? Better, fries? mid, deserts? Better.

The only issue is the time it takes to get it here at least

[jovial torrent]

no idea why mcdonalds doesnt do onion rings

i miss diddy donuts and chocolate dip

[fierce elm]

what the hell lmao

[jovial torrent]

burger king used to do them

fresh fried mini donuts with warm choco sauce

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1m3n6c3/why_are_some_players_like_this_lol/

The boomkin is back, baby

[jovial torrent]

wrote a book instead of saying no ty to grouping with a boomkin lol

[urban skiff]

i'm not certain but it looks to me like he did queue with the boomie but then didn't accept invite to teach him a lesson about rating differences?

[jovial torrent]

i dont udnerstand why they even whisped eachother, only reason i could see the mage being mad is if he signed as resto and switched to boomy or somthing silly

[fierce elm]

lmfao the mental illness is real

[jovial torrent]

been thinking about shuffle and i wonder how many people are above 2400 in 3v3 and are above 2400 in shuffle that arent alts, that kind of data never gets reported does it

i know we have like ammount of ppl that are above x but it doesnt filter out alts does it

[fierce elm]

It does show if they aren't different accounts

so you can check

However the system does not check or do anything about it

[jovial torrent]

ooo interesting, cus i was just wondering how much harder is 3v3 actually, cus for example like venruki and trillie have alot of alts above 2400 in shuffle, but i think they only bother with 1-2 chars in 3v3

[urban skiff]

what is this chaos lobby

double sub

[jovial torrent]

your healers are crying

[fierce elm]

Ret 6-0 lobby

[jovial torrent]

sub is actual cancer to go against as healer

[urban skiff]

it's a wild lobby

[jovial torrent]

never punished for running off to cc u

[urban skiff]

I CAN FIX THAT RIGHT NOW

HE'S ON MY TEAM

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

aw shucks we just barely won

I bet my CC time was really good though

[jovial torrent]

if u have omnibar add kidneyshot to it, makes it real easy to counter rogue

[urban skiff]

I can't look at omnibar

I want to but just can't

[jovial torrent]

slap that bad boy right in the middle of your screen

[urban skiff]

i already have omnibar there and it's just gone

[jovial torrent]

u probs have too many things on it

just remove everything other than like kidney blind

stormbolt hoj

[fierce elm]

nerdshit

[jovial torrent]

i won so many games by just hitting def stance as kidney came off cd

or popping bladestorm

what i need to figure out is how to see enemy casting , somtimes i just blank that shit and miss a poly

i might actually reinstall gladiatorlosa for only poly clone sleep

[urban skiff]

no, i literally can't take my eyes off the game world to look at the UI

gotta protect that 1600 mmr, mr rogue

nothing personnel kid

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[urban skiff]

so two lobbies today so far

one someone left before gates opened

and this one someone left

after giving me a loss

[jovial torrent]

you just want everything centered, dont have as many things to track on omni as this rank 1 lock tho

[urban skiff]

Worst part is knowing I'd be ripping through these lobbies on my feral or shaman

I set a new 2s record last night, 2059 😄

[jovial torrent]

ooo , have u pushed past 2100 yet this season

[urban skiff]

No that's literally my highest rating ever in anything

[fierce elm]

The Enhance 2s struggles

[jovial torrent]

time to grind that solo shuffle for elite weps mog

[urban skiff]

I play like shit in solo shuffle

But I think I learned enough in 3s and 2s now to do better than last

[jovial torrent]

the biggest killer in solo is overchasing

[urban skiff]

pretty sure I don't do that

[jovial torrent]

in our 3v3's you somtimes chased one target really hard instead of switching off of defensives

[urban skiff]

Yea but that's because of healer trust

at least it's somewhat calculated

[jovial torrent]

i mean when enemy pops their defensives just switch off instantly while they are up

then switch back if u want

u have a weakaura to show allies btw?

https://wago.io/0NRLN6X0-

helps alot

[urban skiff]

yep

[jovial torrent]

but yeh strat of solo shuffle is max dps, switch off if they pop defensives, and stay in LoS of your healer, also if a for example mage or warlock evoker ect disrespects you by walking past to cc your healer, switch to them

[urban skiff]

The people i seem to meet in shuffle are special

[jovial torrent]

if you ever wanted to q solo and stream it i could watch you and like live comment who to chase

[urban skiff]

I won't pretend I'm not, but when someone just randomly keels over while I have 5 more seconds until I can blow someone up

sure

that could be fun

[jovial torrent]

yeh shuffle is a bit like that somtimes, especially in like games with mm or ele sham

you just like get randomly deleted

il be leveling on classic but just at me when u want

[urban skiff]

Funny how I never struggle with ele and mm on my shaman

[jovial torrent]

warrior and mage both get a lil cucked by hunter, cus of their immune to slows for war and mage they just delete you somtimes

[urban skiff]

funny lobby

[jovial torrent]

try screw up that dk burst if ur healer survives opener u wein

[urban skiff]

guess all I have to do is control healer and let warrior rip

could be funny to step bomb after blind

[jovial torrent]

when the dk grips in just like triple cheap the ret

[urban skiff]

randomly pulled out of stealth in the opener while 40+ yards away from everything

Yeah I just can't be inside anything at all vs these guys

massive healer diff or something

[jovial torrent]

i don remember can ret take holy prisim, theres a bug where if u cast prism on ally it will break nearby rogue out of stealth

[urban skiff]

I think it's dragon related

[fierce elm]

Ret can't take holy prism no

[urban skiff]

I get the debuff but no damage or anything

[fierce elm]

Also no point in triple cheaping the ret during the first grip

your best bet is to get a stun on the DK right after he grips and slappy hands

so healer can get out

You aren't stopping ret damage regardless

[jovial torrent]

ye but dk will typically iceborn to immune

[fierce elm]

So stun into disarm

Stunning ret will do nothing in the opener

because the DK is the pressure

[jovial torrent]

yeh, i forget if garrote still does anything to dk

[urban skiff]

shit

[fierce elm]

this do be healing diff

[jovial torrent]

u win next 3 ez

[cosmic field]

healer leaves at this point

[urban skiff]

not that ez

russian healer remembers how to play out of the blue

yeah this is so funky

I get all the cooldowns in the first go and then the ret carries the rest of the match for the bad healer

I don't think that lobby was winnable, although better players would have done better

both healers were just duking it out at max range, if i tried to go cc their healer they would rush and crush me before our healer could catch up

[jovial torrent]

wana do a few sham games and il watch

[urban skiff]

i'm in another weird lobby

first 3x plate melee now 3x cloth

I missed it but both warlocks were in sync with every fear cast and burst cast?

[fierce elm]

I hate to break it to you, that aint that hard to be

Particularly since the gameplay loop is "Is this person on fear DR, no so let's fear"

[urban skiff]

no i got hit by both coils at the same time and then fears at the same time

[fierce elm]

kek

[urban skiff]

doesn't matter, i believe that it's easy

just funny

[fierce elm]

Yeah, thats pretty fnny

I thouight you meant they feared a different target at he same time

[urban skiff]

whichever side doesn't have me just stands right in the middle with a healer who can play aggressively

[fierce elm]

not that they used their collective warlock brain to coil at the same time lmfao

[jovial torrent]

you really need to remove dispellable buffs on your nameplates

clutteres your screen so much with useless stuff

[urban skiff]

it doesn't matter on my rogue and it's set up right on sham

[urban skiff]

it's just nonstop fear poly cyclone spam

at least nice to know i made them sit more cc than i sat

[jovial torrent]

did u, isnt cc taken higher than cc done

[urban skiff]

yea it was an attempt at humour

[jovial torrent]

ah lol mb

[jovial torrent]

u gotta manhandle that healer on rogue

[urban skiff]

I couldn't at all get to healer

[jovial torrent]

oo time to watch some shaman?

[urban skiff]

everywhere was slow waddle

[cosmic field]

ehhh gratz

[jovial torrent]

il send my coaching bill

[urban skiff]

carried by choppah

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm missing some prime time streaming here

[fickle forge]

Can I clean here?

[urban skiff]

That's very funny

@wheat jay

that wasn't rng

[fierce elm]

what the fuck 'GAMER

[urban skiff]

Told you, you missed it

[fierce elm]

I was doing other things

[urban skiff]

boo

[wheat jay]

Go elite

[urban skiff]

that's not happening

I used up all my RNG prayers

Also if I jump too high too fast people are going to cry and whine when they look me up on seramate/drustvar

Needs a natural progression from challenger to rival to duelist over 2+ years

[fierce elm]

you don't have ops brother

[wheat jay]

No

Go elite

I went from zero xp to glad in one season

Go play

[urban skiff]

carried karfish

[green wharf]

i got duelist in my first season too, it took a while but i did

[wheat jay]

Go elite

[green wharf]

with 2 classes at that

[fickle forge]

Artji was carried yeah

[jovial torrent]

which season was ur first

[fickle forge]

Legion S7

[wheat jay]

Coached

Not carried

[jovial torrent]

heh , me next

[urban skiff]

I was coached to 1400 by kennie

without his aid I would have been stuck at 1383 forever

[green wharf]

TWW s1

[jovial torrent]

imagine tww s3 is my first, astral gigachad

[green wharf]

i tried to play at the end of DF s4

[jovial torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-meme-big-brain-big-brain-meme-big-brain-time-gif-2441110471562975014

[green wharf]

but my friend quit the game

[jovial torrent]

i will commit to playing a whole damn season instead of quitting by month 2

[urban skiff]

I set a new peak dps record in this match

[jovial torrent]

if only my irl friends cared as much about wow as they do league

[green wharf]

we have glads here, they could help us at least get elite

[jovial torrent]

yeh, honestly, we'd be doing them a favour helpin them queue

[fickle forge]

Artji was enough for a lifetime

[fierce elm]

Just step up

[jovial torrent]

my hpal has a slutmog tho, itll make it easier to stomach playing with me

[urban skiff]

I only slutmog when my wife tells me to

so that's all the time

[fierce elm]

IRL or in game?

[urban skiff]

yes

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

this is her idea of slutmog

[fickle forge]

So GoW Thor then

[urban skiff]

Idk, i never played god of war

[wheat jay]

Shut up you got glad

[fickle forge]

The season prior I was gonna get glad when it was the most unobtainable ever

Until my mage went down under

And my feral left the game to have a kid

Bad priorities

[urban skiff]

You're starting to sound like zercher

[wheat jay]

And I didnt

Im the real one

[fickle forge]

Nah it was a horrible time

The 27/50 wins season

[urban skiff]

I always have a good time. Even when i lose and sound miserable. I just appreciate being able to feel feelings, even if they bad

[fickle forge]

I mean it was a good time while it lasted

But we ended up cutting it all short

Ran down Cervantes and Sponks and then we called it quits for that season

[fierce elm]

huge losers

[green wharf]

This event was good, but no one want to play pvp anymore on my group list

[jovial torrent]

yeh awkward timing

[green wharf]

lost my two healers and a mage

[jovial torrent]

dropping it same time as prepatch is brutal

and the bonus leveling xp that started wednesday

[green wharf]

i need to join a guild

[jovial torrent]

i still need to level pala from 64-85 on mop

then somehow level my alt retail pala

[fickle forge]

There's an event?

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/doesheknow-jojo-jojomeme-jojopart4-jojodiu-gif-9263250408288290101

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/josuke-gif-26373957

kargish irl

[green wharf]

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/pillarmen-gif-19028486

[wheat jay]

me waking you and james to get glad

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-bizarre-adventure-gif-11387564

[fickle aurora]

this might be a stupid question but should slayer arms on pvp just have max haste and versa? and just cba having like a crafted vers+mast ring like colossus does?

[fickle forge]

It doesn't really matter

Just have 25% haste and do whatever with the rest

It's all feelcrafting

[sand sundial]

Which event

[green wharf]

are you serious

or taking the piss

[sand sundial]

There's no separate pvp right

[green wharf]

i get 30% haste

[sand sundial]

I haven't kept up I just log on to bash heads in

[green wharf]

the greedy emissary and the collector' bounty

[sand sundial]

Right

[green wharf]

people chose to do that instead of pvp

[sand sundial]

The way you worded it thought there was a pcp event too

[worldly oriole]

Mists of Pandaria come out in 2 days

been wrapped up in retail

next patch look amazing

only one mount left for the drake achievement now

[worldly oriole]

Damn i saw someone get it

on my alt

[urban skiff]

i got it in like 3 tries

[worldly oriole]

Where can I get the red crystal?

[fierce elm]

Literally just run AQ40

Not that you can use it anywhere else

But its pretty much guaranteed from any AQ run anyways

because it drops from random trash mobs

[worldly oriole]

got another handmaiden xD

[frank knoll]

I got the Gloomcharger and the Abyss worm when it was current content 🤣

[urban skiff]

I had the abyss worm since forever and I would have had the mythic hellfire core if i didn't raffle it away after winning it when it was current content

[frank knoll]

I want the hellfire core

There were people in NH general chat talking about “I’ve ran this on 20 alts this week and it won’t drop “ so makes sense that the drop rate is bugged

[fierce elm]

You should had gaslit them

make them believe they just suck

[green wharf]

color me surprised, they didnt increased all of then

[lavish quest]

None of this matters, I already know blizzard blacklisted my account from the increased drop rates

[urban skiff]

WHY AM I NOT ON MURLOK.IO???

[fierce elm]

It takes time to update

Also check the real leaderboard

because Murlok can be iffy about it

[urban skiff]

It's been almost 6 hours now

no wait sorry

4 hours

[worldly oriole]

whats your solo at

[fierce elm]

yeah 4 hours probably isn't enough

[worldly oriole]

kek

[urban skiff]

this is the streamer i watch to learn how to play ... 🫠

[worldly oriole]

your a god at enhance now

[fierce elm]

THE BLUE NAME

ON THE GREEN BACKGROUND

IS A CRAZY FUCKING CHOICE

[urban skiff]

I'm sorry you have bad eyes old man

[fierce elm]

what the FUCK

[urban skiff]

ok I think this guy isn't the streamer

Because all his alts are called something like "trille" and that isn't him

[green wharf]

one run in the eternal palace is making 2.200g @urban skiff

have to time it later to see if its that good, but it seems quite nice

[urban skiff]

might still be a lot faster to just log around every alt and do a 1k gold climbing world quest or w/e is up

[green wharf]

depends

i was already doing that in undermine

doing 3 available quests for like 2500 and the zone mission to get the 1k chest

but it does take a fuckton of time with alts

[urban skiff]

there's world quests that are literally "fly here and use item 3 times" that awards 900-1100g a pop when stars align

[green wharf]

yeah in undermine

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1m2qrv3/mage_tower_do_it_now/

[green wharf]

with the raids you also get the mogs, so its being fat gains

[fierce elm]

This has been a thing for way long lmfao

[green wharf]

trying to get the eternal palace shoulders just for giggle

[green wharf]

they nerfed the gold from the itens you drop in raids long time ago

[fierce elm]

emeant the Zercher post

[urban skiff]

Supposedly there's currently a bug where you end up at 70% vers in timewalking

Idk if that's what you had in mind

[green wharf]

i got the warrior and DK set last week barely trying

i dont think you need to be that extreme

[fierce elm]

Yeah this has been a thin with scaling

its how I did the mage towers lmfao

It makes every mage tower trivial tbh

[rancid granite]

bring back legion mage tower weapon mogs

[wheat jay]

No

Bring back glad mounts

So I can have legion glad mount

Best ever

[rancid granite]

how about both

[fierce elm]

Already stated wont happen in remix

because BLIZZARD NEEDS THEIR PLAYERS TO HAVE PRIDE

but the AOTC mount? fuck it you can have it lmfao

[rancid granite]

wtf really that was the whole reason I was excited for remix

that's some bull shit

[fierce elm]

yep

no idea if recolors or anything

but I doubt it

[rancid granite]

I've never even seen a mage tower weapon mog

ain't nobody have them

[fierce elm]

A lot have htem

a lot just don't use them

[urban skiff]

MoP remix had some unique sets so I'm sure we'll see something similar in legion remix

[worldly oriole]

I have like all the mage towers

[rancid granite]

gatekeeper nerds who collect shit but never use it

[fierce elm]

Blizzard needs to stop gatekeeping old ass items

that weren't hard to get in a sense

like I totally get not wanting to give out glad mounts just for doing remix

I do not get wanting to gatekeep mage tower stuff lmao

[fierce elm]

but yeah

I also don't know anybody that would be pissed if it was released in remix

but tbf neither did I think so with CM stuff

[green wharf]

someone mentioned that the devs prob didnt got the aotc and the other challenges cause it was actually hard

so those they will bring back

[rancid granite]

no reason for them to have removed it in the first place lmao

[green wharf]

the mage towers were trivial with antorus gear

[fierce elm]

but I guess fuck you for not playing the game fucking 13 years ago

lmfao

[green wharf]

so everyone who tried they got

[fierce elm]

The thing is that we have the tech to make these challenges still available

CM, Mage tower

WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY

[green wharf]

"fuck you if you were only 6 years old when the expansion came out"

[fierce elm]

Put a lil bit of attention on it and we can have it be up perma

[green wharf]

people dont have notion of time i guess

[fierce elm]

We can have people doing the CM challenges TODAY

just by a lil bit of balancing

lmao

[urban skiff]

A dumbass like me did the CM in MoP and WoD

Nothing impressive about people who did it, just matter of playing at the time

Iirc gear scaled down so my warlock was wearing like weird shit to do MoP CM

[green wharf]

the thread in the official foruns have close to 3k comments

so if they arent stupid, they will revert

or, i think

they will bring the models but with different colors

or do new ones, cause its harder, but it doesnt hurt their ego

[fierce elm]

Gear was scaled and it was timed

[urban skiff]

yep

[fierce elm]

They could just do recolors even

lmao

make the OG colors unique

but naaa

[urban skiff]

some of the OG sets were ugly though

people just don't want to admit it

[fierce elm]

NAAAAAAAAAA

The Hunter one is probably the worst

but man

[worldly oriole]

THESE SETS ARE SICK....

[fierce elm]

Warrior, Warlock, Shaman, Paladin just go dummy hard

[worldly oriole]

these are in remix?

[fierce elm]

brother

You will scroll up and read

[worldly oriole]

The mage one is a remix of the class hall im pretty sure

[green wharf]

they all look shit to me, warrior being the exception

but the class hall one looks better

[fierce elm]

tbf this picture is fucking bad too lmfao

they look a whole lot better in game

[green wharf]

i mean, the class hall set is the same

[fierce elm]

ITS NOT

[green wharf]

i still think they look like ass

[fierce elm]

THE PALADIN ONE ISNT EVEN CLOSE

[green wharf]

its a recolor man

[fierce elm]

No

its a whole different set that is loosely based on the CM set

Its not a recolor by definition

[green wharf]

i guess the shoulders and helm are a bit different

[fierce elm]

It also doesn't glow

as much

especially the Paladin set

[green wharf]

but essentially is a recolor

[fierce elm]

but they are different sets

That doesn't even make sense lmao

It is different in ways that aren't just colors

[green wharf]

this one the only different is slightly bigger horns, and a different left shoulder

[fierce elm]

and the shine

[cosmic field]

goes from mid to top tier

[green wharf]

the shiny is pointless anyway, i prefer models

[fierce elm]

I mean you can have that opinion, but they are not recolors

[green wharf]

i like the legion color more

[fierce elm]

lmao

I also fuck with the legion colorway for warr

[green wharf]

essentially recolors with more effects yeah

[fierce elm]

Recolors with different armor pieces, more effects

You know this is the same room it just a circle instead of a square

[green wharf]

with the warrior the only difference is the left shoulder

[fierce elm]

Yes

if you put a new window into an old room it's not a recolor is it

Also again

its not he only difference

because the particles are way different

[green wharf]

are the mythic and lfr set not recolors, because they have different particles/glows?

[fierce elm]

I would claim that the current sets are recolors

BUT

they are the same armor pieces

there is no difference except glow and coloring

The CM sets have differences

the most obvious one to showcase this is the shaman one

It is so WILDLY different even with 'just' the shoulders being different

[green wharf]

its just the shoulders

[fierce elm]

YES

but by definition, it's not a recolor

[green wharf]

and the mop one is shit wtf, i would not use even for free

two fucking heads lol

[fierce elm]

Its a totem brother

[green wharf]

thts why i said "essentially" a recolor, they didnt want to give the same shit and made some changes in the shoulders/healm

but essentially, is the same set with some minor changes

[fierce elm]

Brotehr

aight w.e

[rancid granite]

the warrior one looks like it has funny big head mode turned on

[fierce elm]

You should see it on Gnome

its absurd

[green wharf]

in orcs look fine

[rancid granite]

lmao

i love it

[fierce elm]

although that pic is fucked

[rancid granite]

what a little gremlin

[fierce elm]

lmao

Goblin also looks very strange with it

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/what-space-rick-moranis-helmet-gif-3565926584270988740

same energy

[fierce elm]

But I guess these sets are LOST TO THE TIME

even if the recolors are in the gamefiles*

[green wharf]

most helmets look shit on goblins

[green wharf]

i also never understood the hype for this sword

look shit to me

[rancid granite]

it's just the equivalent of a big ass truck for warriors

you just use it cause its big

[lavish quest]

Because it's fuckin massive

[rancid granite]

little d compensation energy

or maybe it's big d energy and you need it to counter balance the weight

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-she-said-what-she-said-dirty-joke-joke-laugh-gif-15661968

[fierce elm]

THE ARE IN THE FILES

[frank knoll]

I’ve been wanting those shaman shoulders for years

[fierce elm]

Blizzard its mb for not taking WoW seriously 13 years ago

[green wharf]

yo, this red one actually look dope

but muh prestige

[frank knoll]

The red pally one is sick

I have a lot of cool
Pally transmogs but I don’t play pally
Can’t stand it

[lavish quest]

Prestige these balls

[worldly oriole]

im honor level 250+

i wonder what prestige that would be on call of duty

[frank knoll]

I’m honor level 350 something because I spam BGs

[green wharf]

im 295 and i barely play

[full quiver]

Nah its people not doing enough dam

If you look at rating to avg dps done it goes up a ton as you get higher

People at 1600-2200 just don't press buttons

[green wharf]

to me is a healer problem/difference

[frank knoll]

Yeah you just have to pump

Tbh
Trill said something that resonates with me

[fierce elm]

its the people holding me down

[green wharf]

when i was playing unholy i could do double the dps the second dps was doing and somehow i still could lose

[fierce elm]

the N-word?

[frank knoll]

I was waiting for it

[green wharf]

most games went 6/0 5/1 healers

[fierce elm]

I gotchu man

[lavish quest]

Wrong again

It's the cabal

[fierce elm]

the cabal keeps me down

[frank knoll]

But no
He said “I’m a raider at heart, I just try and min max damage”

[fierce elm]

they chase me across the world

[full quiver]

Yeah cause youre not pressing your cc abilities correctly or doing dam to eight kt

[green wharf]

[frank knoll]

It’s no wonder when you look at the ladder
Top SS specs are usually really easy ungabunga w key specs

[wheat jay]

Ppl be like "but I pressed all my cds reeeeee" and theres ps, parry, and 20 other small cds xD

[frank knoll]

Stuff like sv hunter meanwhile is at the bottom because it’s hard to do max damage on

[urban skiff]

the order halls were dumbed down CM sets specifically. They lack special / glow effects, like the wings from the warlock set

[green wharf]

yea, its essentially a recolor, with different shoulders/helm

with the warrior one, only the left was different

[fierce elm]

what spec isn't ungabunga w key specs

[green wharf]

i still think they suck ass mostly

[fierce elm]

We can remove DK from that list, DH, Evoker, Hunter, Paladin, Monk, Shaman, Warlock, Warrior

Rogue and Spriest are the ones that might no be entirely unga

but even then, assa is unga bunga

Frost mage is unga bunga, Fire is so fucking unga bunga

Arcane requires some mental

[wheat jay]

Sv is mad easy lmao what

[sand sundial]

Yeah but these are not the same levels of unga

[fierce elm]

The only specs I can think of is like Sub, Arcane Mage and Spriest

[sand sundial]

You can't tell me in good faith that the avg Joe would play warrior just as easily as mage vs avg opponents

[fierce elm]

I think you overestimate the differences

[green wharf]

thats why everyone plays it right

[fierce elm]

Warrior has to chase, Mage has to kite

in terms of dealing unga bunga damage, they are about the same lmao

[sand sundial]

I think you consider from a "seasoned" point of view

[sand sundial]

I agree

[wheat jay]

You think sv is hard?

Just dmg

[frank knoll]

It’s not intuitive
You have to get ur reps in to optimize damage
If you think you can just spam bombs you’ll only get so far

[green wharf]

how many glads you got with survival

[wheat jay]

One

[lavish quest]

Warrior is the hardest class

[wheat jay]

And like 4 elites

XD

[frank knoll]

He’s been playing it for a while so of course he thinks it’s easy

[sand sundial]

We came full circle

[fierce elm]

lmao

I mean if looking at your entire beginner player

[green wharf]

cause besides bicmexi everyone shit on survival, even hunters

[fierce elm]

I would claim warrior is lowkey hard

[wheat jay]

I was #8 survi in shuffle at some point

[green wharf]

its not rly easy mate

[fierce elm]

Compared to other specs

[frank knoll]

Fire sucks
Least tanky mage spec and does the least damage there no reason to play it

[fierce elm]

there is always something that is easier to play there

[wheat jay]

It is

[fierce elm]

I didn't say it was good

It said it was unga bunga

[green wharf]

for you maybe, but thats the problem when you try to make yourself the standard

[wheat jay]

Bic is not just amazing survi hunter, hes amazing player overall xD

[lavish quest]

Can we get this framed?

[sand sundial]

Fire is decent now no?

[fierce elm]

FRAME IT

Please put in the context

[green wharf]

all three mage specs are above fury in shuffle related to mmr

and two above arms

[fierce elm]

I think in terms of 'beginner' players there are at MINIMUM 3 easier specs than Arms warrior

MINIMUM

[wheat jay]

Survi ceiling is not its dmg lol

[frank knoll]

You have to min max tip of the spearhesd stacks
No when to close in and when to kite cause ur made of paper as SV and now they’re all playing butchery which is awkward

[fierce elm]

there are probably four

[green wharf]

frost even surpassed 3k in shuffle

[fierce elm]

(utilizing the entire specs tools andn ot just damage rotation)

[sand sundial]

DH, BM, Ret?

[fierce elm]

Not ret if utilizing the entire spec

[sand sundial]

Hm ye

[fierce elm]

but DH, MM, BM, Devoker

[sand sundial]

Fuck devoker man

[fierce elm]

Those I can say with pure confidence are easier

If not talking about how good something is

[green wharf]

Ret is way more easier than MM now

[fierce elm]

If it was pure damage it would have more

[green wharf]

ret is lowkey braindead

BM, Ret, i would say fury are the easiest specs

[lavish quest]

Ret dam is easy

But the big brain comes from using your support shit right

[green wharf]

frost is piss easy too, you dont cast anything anymore

but is more complicated

[wheat jay]

Noone playing butchery cuz it got reworked, you barely need to manage tip anymore, you play fote again which is fof execute kinda

Survi is also very tanky this expansion

So please stop talking out of your ass xD

[fierce elm]

Yeah, which is why I can't put other specs there

like Elemental would be there, Mages would be there

Windwalker would be on that list

DK

But, they have a ton of other stuff that does require some brainpower

[wheat jay]

Monk brainpower?

Huh

[fierce elm]

Yes

I hate to admit it

[wheat jay]

???

Brother

Dont do it

[fierce elm]

but Monk actually requires half a braincell to play compared to BM, MM, Devoker and DH

now before you overreact in typical aRtji way

you would want to grab the context in this

[wheat jay]

Ohh comparwd to those

[fierce elm]

before you start sperging out

Exactly

lmao

[wheat jay]

Ye its okay then

[lavish quest]

Bruther, for warrior just walking requires brain power

[fierce elm]

I would also place Assa on that list

but again, having to keep track of DRs does require half a brain

[worldly oriole]

Ghosts of karesh is a water pokeman

[north thicket]

You are doing it bro, the 2.4k enhance challenge!

The People's Champion

[full quiver]

COPE

[frank knoll]

You’ve logged 1000s of hours on it
Ur experience isn’t going to be the same as someone who is picking it up
If any thing you’re talking out of your ass lol

[full quiver]

Fury >bm >dev

Braindead monkey spec in order

[full quiver]

Artji would NEVER do that 😂

[cosmic field]

frost mage easiest spec

[wheat jay]

My guy, there's 3 buttons

[frank knoll]

Tbh Lock specs are the hardest because you’re designed to be a turret but they nerfed and removed all of the tankiness

[wheat jay]

One cooldown

4 if we count explosive shot lol

[frank knoll]

5 buttons

[wheat jay]

Dmg is the least demanding thing on survi

3 rotational

[green wharf]

kill comand, mongoose bite, explosive shot, bomb, kill shot, flanking strike, comanding assault, + the others

[wheat jay]

kiting, cc, and stopping cc is the difficult thing

[frank knoll]

Pet management
Actually like 7 buttons

[green wharf]

new peoples can get confused

[wheat jay]

pet management being one button, mend pet, move pet if you're 2400+ lol

[green wharf]

its arguably one of the hardest specs to pick up atm

[frank knoll]

That’s my whole point
Artji can’t see past his own PoV

There’s a reason why nobody plays it

[wheat jay]

bm and mm better?

[frank knoll]

Which is my original point

[wheat jay]

when survi was meta it was most played hunter spec

in both pve and pvp

shadowlands s3 and s4

[green wharf]

Bm only have 3 buttons

[frank knoll]

Cause flayed shot carried it
Kill shots were proccing back to back and doing 25-30% of someone’s HP

Sv was overtuned back then

[wheat jay]

not really, shadowlands s3 and s4 was carried by bomb

[wheat jay]

yes, you're getting closer to why specs are meta

[frank knoll]

Okay bro lol

[green wharf]

they are even removing the need to cast dire best in the next season

BM will be even more easy to play

[wheat jay]

specs are meta, because they are overpowered and do absurd damage

lets look at top pvp specs, okay?

we wanna look at 3s or shuffle?

[frank knoll]

Which in turn makes them…. Easier 👏👏👏

Which was my original point

[wheat jay]

not rly, devoker is not meta and its arguably the easiest dps spec in the game

fury is MAD easy and its at the bottom

[fierce elm]

so still 3

you fucking idiot

[green wharf]

survival is hard

[wheat jay]

feral arguably hard pvp spec and its at the bottom

[frank knoll]

People don’t wanna play a weird looking dragon they can’t transmog
And that’s cause arms is good
Most pvp warriors will play Arms over fury when arms is better

[wheat jay]

i am hard

[wheat jay]

and most will swap to fury whenever fury is better

moral of the story

people go for what is STRONGER

not for what is harder, because no spec is hard for someone who can ALREADY play the game

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[wheat jay]

unless we wanna talk 1800 where none of it matters cuz its pisslow mmr for casuals to get their elite set

cuz at that rating ye, people can find some specs hard some easy

[green wharf]

Even when surv is op, still are low in numbers, like s1

[wheat jay]

cuz bm was even better than survival on s1

what are you on about

[green wharf]

i think even in m+ survival numbers were lower, besides being stronger than MM and BM

[green wharf]

survival was better for a while

[full quiver]

ARMS ANS FURY INTERCHANGEABLE NOW

[wheat jay]

+12 and higher in s1

[fierce elm]

you didnt say rhat

checkmate

[wheat jay]

survival was the most played hunter spec there

[full quiver]

Yeah i read ur thing as war

😂 😂 😂 😂

[fierce elm]

fold em baby

[full quiver]

Ill fold u

[wheat jay]

syeg, i check my numbers before speaking, trust me on that lmao

[cosmic field]

this graph is messed up, participation must be so low

[wheat jay]

survi is not hard to do damage on

it is what it is

[frank knoll]

People piss on people who only play to 1800
There’s like no real reason to play above that though

[full quiver]

Yeah there is

Batmount

[green wharf]

🫃🏾

[full quiver]

You type like someone who looks like that

[frank knoll]

What do you get between 18-glad? Think people wanna sweat for a shitty weapon enchant?

[fierce elm]

ELITE WEAPONRY

uh and tabard

and a temporary title

[wheat jay]

elit weapons, illussions, tabard

and one good thing

fun

[rancid granite]

no fun, only ReWaRdS

remove all pvp rewards

all there is left is rating

[frank knoll]

Okay 2.1 - glad
Also nothing in shuffle but a title after 2.1

[rancid granite]

bigger the rating = bigger the D

[wheat jay]

fun

[fierce elm]

tabard

title

[wheat jay]

^

[frank knoll]

That’s not enough lol

[wheat jay]

what would you want?

[fierce elm]

probably not

[wheat jay]

its shuffle, not 3s

[fierce elm]

I'

[wheat jay]

want better reward, go play 3s

[fierce elm]

I'd reckon if you hit 2.1 in 3s your goal is to get Glad next

but thats me

[wheat jay]

ye

set a goal, get reward for said goal

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-air-quotes-gif-18226933

[frank knoll]

3s is dead
Irrelevant
Nobody cares
Clinging to a thing people have moved on from

[wheat jay]

i do have fun

[rancid granite]

make your goal and reward be winning / climbing rating

[fierce elm]

Artji is currently still unsubbed

[rancid granite]

GG

[wheat jay]

tempted to sub rn ngl

but next season i will xd

[fierce elm]

I FUCKING CALLED IT

[lavish quest]

Lmao

[fierce elm]

I FUCKING CALLED IT

[wheat jay]

called what

me subbing, or?

[fierce elm]

That you were gonna be a lil shit and resub as soon as you started being active

and you wer elike "naa naa I don't want to right now"

YET HERE WE ARE

[frank knoll]

Unlock old elite sets
% like the saddles

[lavish quest]

I knew you were a sub

[fierce elm]

They refuse to give us Mage artifact weapons again because of the 'prestige' of doing it in Legioin

where it was literally a walkover

They have made their position pretty adamant in gatekeeping old stuff

[wheat jay]

it wasnt at first

xD

later on it was sadly

[fierce elm]

woah no way

[worldly oriole]

Are they really gatekeeping if you cant get it?

[fierce elm]

Anyways, they have decided how they are gonna handle this

[wheat jay]

id be fine with it, if it was 2100 rating+

or at least 2000

[worldly oriole]

Think about it.

[frank knoll]

Gotta protect 35 year old casuals NFT i suppose

[fierce elm]

lmfao that is literally why

just give it out

[frank knoll]

I have almost all mage tower weapons

[fierce elm]

Just make it like a % gained above 1800 that give an account bound token

For old elite sets

[worldly oriole]

elite in legion was 2k?

[fierce elm]

Make it like idk, 25 wins or some shit

[frank knoll]

I could care less if they unlocked them

[fierce elm]

Elite didn't exist in Legion

So fuck it who cares

[worldly oriole]

Actually it did

lol

[fierce elm]

It didn't

[worldly oriole]

i have achieve called Cruel Elite... but i meant Elite armor set tmog...

[fierce elm]

Elite as in ELITE

[frank knoll]

They should put the spectral tiger in the cash shop
That would be so funny

[fierce elm]

nerd

[frank knoll]

Asmongold reacts

[fierce elm]

Anyways, stop gatekeeping sets and shit that are a decade old at this point lmao

Funniest thing would be if they brought back all of this throuhg Trading post

[wheat jay]

id say different

[fierce elm]

that would be hilarious

[wheat jay]

gatekeep pve sets to seasons

mythic sets

[fierce elm]

yeah like that solves anything

kek

You know what, gatekeep every expansion

and the drops that happened during it

[frank knoll]

Like what’s the prestige for mage tower
Get a bunch of gear and consumables and w key it
That’s what I did lol

[fierce elm]

Too bad you only played during TWW you can't get SHIT now

[full quiver]

2100 isn't sweat

[fierce elm]

For you

[full quiver]

it's like 6 shuffles at end of season lmao

[fierce elm]

I dare you to do 6 shuffles rn on a fresh character

and hit 2.1

[full quiver]

u can be an absolute mongolod and get it in bgblitz

[wheat jay]

with inflation boost, ye, like 10 shuffles at best

[fierce elm]

I dare you

[wheat jay]

fresh a bit more

[full quiver]

look at my spriest

[fierce elm]

Now put an entirely new person on there

[full quiver]

never played it before

it's like 20-1 in shuffle

lmao

[fierce elm]

so 4 shuffles in

two mroe to hit 2.1

[full quiver]

sorry 21-3

[wheat jay]

good luck scoob

[full quiver]

it's 2200mmr

[wheat jay]

2 more shuffles

[fierce elm]

Yeah 2 more

[wheat jay]

better get 6-0 in both lol

[fierce elm]

Even with 6-0 he wont hit 2100 I think lmao

[full quiver]

we're also ASSUMING THIS PERSON IS ON A FRESH CHAR

[fierce elm]

lmao

smh can't do it in 6 shuffles

[full quiver]

lol

i was literally doing negative dps too

[fierce elm]

You would have to hit like 1600 or something and then get a 6-0 to slingshot your rating

[full quiver]

but just stun silence fear healer on cd

is auto win

[fierce elm]

to even get close to hitting 2100 in 6 shuffles

[green wharf]

even if you go 6/0 i dont think the math is even possible to get 2.1k in 6 games

[full quiver]

it is if you have any mmr from last season

or started end of season

this was like first 2 weeks

[green wharf]

1,8k maybe

[urban skiff]

The reason is that the soundscape is terrible and unappealing

Who thought kill command was a good idea

[fierce elm]

Why doesn't kill command immediately kill ????

[urban skiff]

who thought half your attacks should use a small crossbow in your offhand you have no control over how looks?

[green wharf]

whats the problem with kill command

[urban skiff]

WHY AM I THROWING BOMBS WITH THE HAND THAT IS HOLDING A WEAPON

[wheat jay]

technically 1800 is possible in 4 shuffles

[wheat jay]

yes

[fierce elm]

Yes

[green wharf]

survival animations are ass yeah,

[urban skiff]

there's something just oddly unsatisfying with how survival plays and it's not related to the rotation itself

[green wharf]

you should throw a spear in the kill shot

[wheat jay]

2100 i'd say in like 8 if you keep on winning

[green wharf]

lame ass hand crossbow

[full quiver]

survival in slands was fun af

[urban skiff]

One third of your button presses is just pointing your weapon at something

[wheat jay]

i miss my boy every day

[full quiver]

you're basically playing as batman

flying all over

using gadgets lol

[urban skiff]

Gunlance actually

[wheat jay]

now its ass 😦

boring

sleep

[fierce elm]

Artji only plays meta specs

smh

[wheat jay]

excuse me

i picked up monk when it was dogshit

[fierce elm]

oh yeah sure b u d d y

Now go resub

[wheat jay]

end of s1 tww

it was dogshit

[fierce elm]

oh yeah sure b u d d y

[wheat jay]

prove me wrong hoe

[green wharf]

should i

[fierce elm]

I just did

[wheat jay]

how

[fierce elm]

with my words

I just aura'd you

Aura'd into me being correct

[wheat jay]

bro your words are going through a thick membrane of jism before reaching everyone else

gayboy

[fierce elm]

Nu uh I said it first

what the fuck is jism lmfao

dumbass

[urban skiff]

says they're 2.1k CR but they're 2050 CR

report them

[fierce elm]

You average LFG experience

lmao

get rolled

noob

[wheat jay]

🙂

[full quiver]

fotm reroller

[fierce elm]

amiright

[full quiver]

my favorite is "x/50 wins" and the guys 2200

what HAPPENED THERE BUD

[wheat jay]

see at some point you learn that playing meta is more fun

[worldly oriole]

Lol that guy in lfg has false XP

[fierce elm]

We would never

[urban skiff]

i've never seen that

[full quiver]

if you're doing lfg you gotta check pvp

[green wharf]

so imma just farm more old transmogs

[full quiver]

and if they are legend in solo shuffle insta skip

[fierce elm]

not James AND Kargish writing "MULTIGLADXP" when we played fucking Assa/Elemental LMFAO

[green wharf]

this season is so dead

[full quiver]

yeah u gotta check

then u see they were glad in fucking bfa

and haven't played in years

and are butthole lmao

[fierce elm]

its pretty fucking funny

[full quiver]

HIGH EXP MULTIGLAD

they're like 2100 in shuffle with 500 games

[green wharf]

was that easy to get glad in bfa?

[full quiver]

if it aint within 2 seasons of current

it don't count

[fierce elm]

LMFAO

THATS BECAUSE YOU ARE THE LAST 2 SEASONS

[full quiver]

no one cares that u were good 10yrs ago

[fierce elm]

You lil fuck

[wheat jay]

fam we got james to play with us with "2.5kxp kfc"

kargish is a scammer

100%

[full quiver]

cause it's RELEVANT

2 SEASONS IS 1YR

[fierce elm]

lmao

[full quiver]

i mean if they were like glad every season df

[fierce elm]

If your current glad is older than one day

it doesn't count

[full quiver]

and then didn't play last season

[fierce elm]

stuff changes daily

[full quiver]

that's probably fine

idk being picky is how u make lfg go well

u just join whomever and it sucks ass

[fierce elm]

You literally dont LFG though

[full quiver]

like

[worldly oriole]

Get picky enough and you just wont play

[full quiver]

90% of my games this season

[urban skiff]

what the hell? I'm still not on murlok.io

[full quiver]

for 3s

were lfg

[fierce elm]

L i e s

[full quiver]

not lies

[fierce elm]

rolled

[fierce elm]

show proof

[full quiver]

i just have a super tism

strategy

for checkpvp

and it is successful

[urban skiff]

They update every 8 hours, it's been over 8 hours

[full quiver]

lol

[fierce elm]

You mean just check pvp them

lmao

[full quiver]

yeah but

shuffle legend w/o glad = giga pass

[fierce elm]

crazy strat

[full quiver]

need glad within 2 seasons

[fierce elm]

HEY

I AM SHUFFLE LEGEND

[full quiver]

high win rate in shuffle

[fierce elm]

It was crazy hard

[full quiver]

if they play it

[fierce elm]

lmao

sitting there for 13 hours in queue

[full quiver]

the one time i joined a group with 2 guys

at like 2150 3s

that both were current legends in season

we lost like 4 games in a row and i left

😂

oh cool we just aren't using lay or bubble this game i guess sweet

[fierce elm]

I mean you never look at sHuffle

you always look at their 3s

Shuffle, Blitz and 2s don't count when it comes to XP in 3s

straight up

[full quiver]

if they're like 2.6+ in shuffle

it's relevant

[fierce elm]

Is it?

[full quiver]

yah

like if someone is 2.6 in shuffle

[fierce elm]

I highly disagree lmao

[full quiver]

with 300 games

and they have a high w/l

they have a good grasp on game

[fierce elm]

See oyu keep adding more stuff

its not just 2.6 rating lmfao

[full quiver]

ok that's fair lol

like yeah if they have 2000 games at 2.6

[fierce elm]

LMAO

[urban skiff]

would you take a 2.6k shuffle 0 3v3 over a 0 shuffle 1.8k 3v3?

[fierce elm]

"You gotta be 2.6 with 300 games and 80% winrate" lmao

[fierce elm]

depends on the game invested

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-stop-it-yap-yapping-stop-yapping-gif-10165360500119609382

[fierce elm]

honestly

[urban skiff]

I'd take shuffle exp just because they're more likely to be able to adapt to whatever chaotic bullshit I'm going to be doing

[fierce elm]

If you have 1k games in solo huffle for 2.6 but like, idk, 50 games for 1.8

I take the 1.8

[green wharf]

i got 1.8 on fury with 50 rounds in day 3 of the season

thats how many games

[lavish quest]

I got 1.8 when I logged in

[green wharf]

[full quiver]

i mean if i'm pushing cr i'm not taking a 0 cr person lol

always group with someone higher than u unless it's heals and they're high xp

[fierce elm]

If they have a 90% winrate

in SS

and you are sitting at 2100 3s

[full quiver]

and they're 0cr 3s

well 2100 3s isn't pushing lol

[fierce elm]

If thye have XP in 3s

[full quiver]

what's the benefit though

[fierce elm]

2100 is pushing for oyu unless its lik the last 2 months

fuck you mean

[full quiver]

you'd need like

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[full quiver]

15 wins