holy shit stormweaver is great in 3s
#pvp
urban skiff
just picking people right up to full hp
fdks sure are popular down in shitter league huh
copper fox
They thrive down there
pale dew
Is this still going?
fierce elm
sure
river trench
material quality doesnt matter when making pvp crafted stuff right?
sharp meteor
Correct. It scales to 684 regardless.
frank knoll
He’s playing BoS wtf
sand sundial
He’s playing BoS wtf
It's viable afaik, but requires setup ofc
Good idea actually, give mage an MS effect
bright kraken
fickle forge
Progress, good job
hybrid oar
he just casually put 6m dam into one global vs one target
What tool is this?
hybrid oar
Aah, thanks!
urban skiff
Progress, good job
how do i sell voidweaver to my wife
fickle forge
how do i sell voidweaver to my wife
She'll become the man in the relationship
urban skiff
"You'll do way more damage" is one thing, but "you have to work way harder to keep me alive" doesn't seem like a big selling point
fickle forge
I mean yeah, that is pretty much it
It's a lot harder, and the pay off is a lot more damage
You can catch my healer on Twitch when he plays voidweaver
Heck you can play with him if you wanna experience it
cold frigate
Between bleed and no-bleed builds, is one generally better? Should bleed be ran into certain match ups?
urban skiff
You can catch my healer on Twitch when he plays voidweaver
i forgot what his name is
fickle forge
i forgot what his name is
Anabølix
fickle forge
Between bleed and no-bleed builds, is one generally better? Should bleed be ran ...
Bleeds with colossus
cold frigate
Ohh yea forgot to mention playing slayer
cold frigate
But i guess that answers my qs
green wharf
urban skiff
Zerch get out of Eu and come to NA
lmao
I keep reflexively pressing vanish during sylvanas fight
for MORE DAMAGE
green wharf
as sub?
you dont even need
i got all but one, so im killing argus to see if i get the red sychte
i did got the blue one totally out of nowhere
i was just tryign to finish the lfr set
now im compelled to get the red one too
urban skiff
Got two or three
But I got both bow, quiver, and the dagger
If this had dropped in one kill my guild would have lost their minds
I think we only saw 1 or 2 bows from mythic at all
green wharf
I think we only saw 1 or 2 bows from mythic at all
the legendary?
i guess back then was rare, cause i got so many of those
lavish quest
When I got the bow to drop the first time, it dropped 5 of them
fierce elm
@copper fox the Lando Norris monster is actually pretty good
It might rival the white one
green wharf
I think we only saw 1 or 2 bows from mythic at all
33 tries with the red scyte today, nothing
🤔
urban skiff
33 tries with the red scyte today, nothing
How many tries yesterday
green wharf
How many tries yesterday
i mean i did trough the night and now is 8am, so technically the same day
and those are all my alts
wheat jay
<@1134571107257684080> the Lando Norris monster is actually pretty good
its decent at best wtf are you on about O_O
smh man's got no tastebuds ehhh
green wharf
he is baldo, so yeah
lavish quest
Artji, u bald? The people must know
fickle forge
His survival hunter makes me bald
lavish quest
I knew he was bad at it all this time
wheat jay
Artji, u bald? The people must know
no
fierce elm
its decent at best wtf are you on about O_O
naa irs good
wheat jay
ye but its not top3 xD
granted, i only drank it once
taste might grow on me
and i still think tiger>monster taste wise xD
lavish quest
Got another year or two? Good shit
wheat jay
?
fierce elm
Its top 2 easily
wheat jay
oh
wheat jay
Its top 2 easily
nah
fierce elm
Your taste buds are ruined by potatoes
fickle forge
Me vs mages
wheat jay
your's from your gay vapes or whatever
fierce elm
what
wheat jay
dont mind me just slowly spreading rumors about you
lavish quest
I bet neither of you scrape your tongues, so both of you lack taste buds
wheat jay
you scrape your tongue on dicks
urban skiff
Artji, u bald? The people must know
imagine not having so thick hair your barber charges you extra
green wharf
The joke is that he is polish and that is all his diet consists of
isnt that the irish
🤔
urban skiff
Danish too
fierce elm
its a ton of countries
green wharf
what the
fierce elm
But the joke is that Artj is Polish and Polish is poor people
hence they eat the 'poor' food
God, stop ruining my fucking JOKE
urban skiff
Is your joke polish?
green wharf
but potato is great , your joke doesnt work
urban skiff
because it's too poor to be funny
fierce elm
My joke is polish
lavish quest
EU runs off of potatoes because they all poor
fierce elm
Shut up
lavish quest
Got it
urban skiff
can i have your rating?
fierce elm
not much to be found there
lavish quest
Imagine not having your country's diet be based off of hamburgers, sugar, fat, and all manners of fucked chemicals
urban skiff
I'm so damn close to breaking 2.1k with the best spec in the game
fierce elm
I need red-40 in my diet
green wharf
i had a migraine for 6 hours thank god i was not trying to get rating 🙏🏾
green wharf
Imagine not having your country's diet be based off of hamburgers, sugar, fat, a...
plus, you can make all sorts of stuff with potatoes
urban skiff
Imagine not having your country's diet be based off of hamburgers, sugar, fat, a...
I hear america recently replaced the lead in their food with PFAS
because it's cheaper
wheat jay
afro
your joke sucks cuz its about potatoes
and those saved many contries from famine
my joke is cool
fierce elm
u suck
wheat jay
cuz youre gay
lavish quest
I hear america recently replaced the lead in their food with PFAS
Nah, Flint takes all the lead
fierce elm
I want some lead in my food
green wharf
too fucking bad potato is fucking expensive in south america
urban skiff
tbh most of the lead is used to line the drinking water main lines on the inside
because logic
lavish quest
I want some lead in my food
It was the water, get it right. Ignorant swine
fierce elm
I want som lead in my water too
fierce elm
I need it
lavish quest
Come to US, we'll fatten you right up
wheat jay
afro already fat
fierce elm
Yeah I do be bald
urban skiff
a cheap source of sweetener
fierce elm
Artji is gonna start this discussion again
wheat jay
better than your potato joke
lavish quest
We have freedom bread
fierce elm
ONE american
wheat jay
that is true
fierce elm
and all of them are racist, sort of sexist and poor
wheat jay
cuz no other polish person would talk to you
fierce elm
just saying
urban skiff
I know enough Polish people to know KURWA
urban skiff
And I'm fuckign dying to know what the Polsh polka-metal they listen to at my construction sites
But I don't know enough Polish to ask them
lavish quest
What exactly do yall mean when you say toast bread?
Bread after it was toasted?
The loaves being sliced?
urban skiff
What exactly do yall mean when you say toast bread?
Bread after it was toasted?
...
Bake bread then bake again
idk
wheat jay
What exactly do yall mean when you say toast bread?
Bread after it was toasted?
...
the kind of bread taht is used for toasts
fierce elm
What exactly do yall mean when you say toast bread?
Bread after it was toasted?
...
White bread that is square lmao
lavish quest
EU so clueless
lavish quest
I asked 1 question got 3 different answers
green wharf
What exactly do yall mean when you say toast bread?
Bread after it was toasted?
...
Im asking myself this ever since they brought this discussion
lavish quest
Alright, so what I think yall are using the term toast bread for, is the more commonly used bread here
lavish quest
Still used. Less so
wheat jay
ye thats the diff
green wharf
this is just bread 
lavish quest
Usually with "fancier" dinners
wheat jay
this is just bread <a:hmmNod:940376932560822372>
no, its toast bread
lavish quest
We just call it bread here 
wheat jay
Usually with "fancier" dinners
ye, your fancy bread is our normal everyday bread, our toast bread used for toasts ONLY is your daily bread
green wharf
its bread used to make toasts
lavish quest
Toast bread is usually frozen. And like garlic bread
wheat jay
We just call it bread here <:keks:936231610850897992>
y'all call football soccer, you are unhinged and sick in the head
lavish quest
y'all call football soccer, you are unhinged and sick in the head
I agree with this
wheat jay
Toast bread is usually frozen. And like garlic bread
ye, normal bread you buy hot, or warm usually
wheat jay
this is toast bread, you put butter and toast
yes, and what bread did you use for it?
TOAST BREAD
jovial torrent
bread is bread till you toast it to be toast 
lavish quest
ye, your fancy bread is our normal everyday bread, our toast bread used for toas...
Keep eating bread every day fatty :P
wheat jay
Keep eating bread every day fatty :P
i am
green wharf
yes, and what bread did you use for it?
we can use any bread
wheat jay
bread goated
wheat jay
we can use any bread
ye but that specific bread is the best for toasts, cuz it was designed for toasts
green wharf
if you mean what is the name of that kind of bread
lavish quest
Eh, don't need so much carbs
green wharf
we call sliced bread
lavish quest
Just be carnivore 
jovial torrent
in uk its just bread, till you cook it till toast, they sell bread thats better for toasting, bu we dont call it that till its toasted
wheat jay
anyway, main joke is that one american was in a restaurant in europe and was mad they didnt give him toast bread
lavish quest
Artji has yet to find out, America sets the rules and culture, therefore we are right
green wharf
anyway, main joke is that one american was in a restaurant in europe and was mad...
americans are just weird
lavish quest
anyway, main joke is that one american was in a restaurant in europe and was mad...
Mistake 1, going to Europe amirite
wheat jay
Artji has yet to find out, America sets the rules and culture, therefore we are ...
good thing not every country follows
green wharf
they measure stuff by feet per bald eagle or some shit
wheat jay
or we'd have riots and stealing everywhere
jovial torrent
america bread is wild, just dead chemicals which is why so many americans are "gluten intolerant"
lavish quest
Europe people nice tho in my exp 
green wharf
their temperature is like wow its 872 today
lavish quest
Some Macedonian friends invited me to their daughters wedding back in Macedonia
lavish quest
Found out some couple months my sister was getting married the day before so did not go lol
lavish quest
america bread is wild, just dead chemicals which is why so many americans are "g...
You think it's just the bread
Cute
jovial torrent
lol true
lavish quest
I gotta say, not to be rude. At least we ain't UK
I do hear US is bringing back the plague tho
Lezz gooo
green wharf
isnt the uk like this now
wheat jay
I do hear US is bringing back the plague tho
y'all not vaccinating again?
jovial torrent
yeh its pretty grim, i live like right on the edge of the uk away from big cities , i would 100% move to america if i was unfortunate enough to be born in like manchester , leeds london ect
lavish quest
y'all not vaccinating again?
Is there a black plague vaccine? I don't recall my doctor bringing it up
wheat jay
Is there a black plague vaccine? I don't recall my doctor bringing it up
wait
black plague
wtf are you doing there?
jovial torrent
rats
lavish quest
I guess someone died of it in AZ
jovial torrent
they are evolving
lavish quest
wheat jay
wtf
y'all mad weird
cant wait for trump to say theres bubonic plague in usa, coming from asia or europe
lavish quest
We bringing back the greatest hits, wut you talking about?
It was the Chinese. It's always the Chinese
jovial torrent
i honstly wouldnt be suprised if countries were releasing infected ticks and stuff all the time
fierce elm
So yeah, this isn't strange exactly
lavish quest
I wouldn't be surprised is Artji was gay. Man's been eyeing my American cake
wheat jay
only for papers
lavish quest
Wouldn't come to America. Proceeds to 90 day fiance
green wharf
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/985520109487538247/1393734208156991638/...
Globally between 2010 and 2015 there were 3,248 documented cases, which resulted in 584 deaths.[1] The countries with the greatest number of cases are the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Madagascar, and Peru.
its not that dangerous nowadays
fierce elm
Yeah, it's a thing
jovial torrent
but what about 2020-2025 , times be wild
green wharf
https://tenor.com/view/nerd-alert-bumper-adam-devine-pitch-perfect-lame-gif-1747...
pink monster is pretty good too
jovial torrent
never had tiger
copper fox
Did this guy just link a bottle filled with micro plastics
@lavish quest any time you consume anything that isn’t water you need to stop immediately, throw it out and get a glass of water
lavish quest
i drink from the tap
I drink from filter pitcher
I live in the "city" now technically
dense herald
do i wait or do i do something else
green wharf
@urban skiff just so he doesnt give me the helmet, it drops SIX belts
i hate wow drop system
jovial torrent
i have the opposite problem it took me so many runs to get belt from naxx, i just get spammed with weapons and trinkets
urban skiff
Is there a black plague vaccine? I don't recall my doctor bringing it up
Dont need a vaccine for that. Antibiotics clear it up
lavish quest
i hate wow drop system
Increased transmog rates 
green wharf
i dunno how people do pve in this shit
thank god you can just buy or craft pvp gear
lavish quest
U git gud, simple
wheat jay
pve > pvp
do i play more gw2 and catch up?
cuz they're throwing in another expansion
lavish quest
You go back to gooning to stellar blade
green wharf
U git gud, simple
git gud with no drops and no bis
wheat jay
exploration sucks ass
green wharf
fuck that
lavish quest
There's no finishing gooning tho
wheat jay
git gud with no drops and no bis
you don't need either to do mythic raids, and m+
green wharf
yeah i dont either
wheat jay
There's no finishing gooning tho
ye but i dont goon to stellar
tho ngl
id actually replay the game
green wharf
i think pve in wow is shit besides raid
green wharf
and i dont have a raid group, cause no guild
wheat jay
depends
wow pve is everything from open world to mythic raid
m+ is literally #1 content in wow lol
delves had mostly good reception
raids are great mostly
jovial torrent
its just accessable and the rewardsare attainable
lavish quest
Delves are kinda lame ngl
wheat jay
its just accessable and the rewardsare attainable
what else do you need?
jovial torrent
nah thats great, they need to think about trying to do the same for mythic raiding and pvp
jovial torrent
^
jovial torrent
problem is they need to delete some classes to be able to run 10 man again
or consolidate some raid buffs
wheat jay
small rebalancing
removing/adding 2/3 abilities per class
done
also, dont need specific comp for mythic unless you go for top 10 or top 50 lol
jovial torrent
i could see them trying 15 man, 3 tanks 3 healer 9 dps
wheat jay
you could do 20 druids mythic and still succeed xD
green wharf
Delves are kinda lame ngl
delves>M+
wheat jay
2/2/6 best combo
green wharf
any content you can stop to take a shit and come back is better
jovial torrent
tbh its a problem that fixes itself if the raids arent so stupidly hard and require a 18% renown track buff, multiple .5/7 system items and nerfs
wheat jay
are raids hard?
jovial torrent
in the first few months yeh, unless u do split runs, buy gear drops off ppl with millions of gold and have a WA tech team to help u
green wharf
I believe this is what the kids call "L take"
the kids are playing roblox
green wharf
Delves are so boring
i just fucking hate dungeons man, dunno what it is
wheat jay
in the first few months yeh, unless u do split runs, buy gear drops off ppl with...
ye, temporary very short term advantage
green wharf
i join one i instantly get sleepy
green wharf
no joke, when i was having trouble sleeping in quee for DF dungeons
wheat jay
or play a tank
jovial torrent
problem is it makes the first half of a patch pointless for alot of the playerbase, same with ppl only pvping first few and last few weeks of season
lavish quest
The difficulty of delves, do you have the gear to survive the auto attacks and willing to waste 5-15 mins to do it?
Or be like me, willing to play tank so of course I live
wheat jay
problem is it makes the first half of a patch pointless for alot of the playerba...
that's the magic of seasonal content
lavish quest
jovial torrent
i kind of enjoy delves but the mobs have too much hp when u play dps
green wharf
but i do like raids 
jovial torrent
they need to add big telegraphed attacks to dodge, instead of needing to inhale branns potions on cd
jovial torrent
too many casters with too many hp bars all over the place
only deaths in m+ are ppl getting sniped by 2 spells at the same time
lavish quest
they need to add big telegraphed attacks to dodge, instead of needing to inhale ...
The fact that his heal is some turd on the ground pisses me off so much
I just play tank and make bran DPS
lavish quest
too many casters with too many hp bars all over the place
They've toned this done, its not too bad now
jovial torrent
im guna probs be playing pala next season more so il probs do the same
theres too much to do next month, wana play retail but also tryhard mop arena
and i kind of wana do mop raids since i only played casually in mop arena and skipped pve mostly
wheat jay
no wow
peaceful life
ill probably resub last month of expansion or sth
hopefully new dh spec in 12.0
jovial torrent
comfy
jovial torrent
i kind of hope mop dwarfs retail pvp in popularity to kick the retail team into gear
wheat jay
and ill buy 3 expansion at once xd
jovial torrent
playing some gw2 does sound tempting
so gw2 now actually has healers and tanks, is the raid content fun
lavish quest
I'll try maining pally this patch
Since I've mained war every patch since the end of WoD really
Guess legion I went feral
But still
jovial torrent
i just wana get reps in, so im guna spam hpal instead of sitting queues
if only we could play classic and retail at the same time
frank knoll
I think I’m playing monk
Gonna try MW heals in M+
jovial torrent
mw in arena feels great, ibet its even more fun in pve without ppl kicking ur channeled spells
wheat jay
so gw2 now actually has healers and tanks, is the raid content fun
fairly easy, might be difficult to get into raids as everyone has some exp
some are actually difficult
there are some dps checks
jovial torrent
i hope theres a good spec that uses 2h swords, that was my only problem with early gw2, greatsword ranger and warrior werent that great
lavish quest
2h warrior isn't good?
lavish quest
GW2 trash then
wheat jay
in both pvp and pve
there's 3 specs for warr
berserker, spellbreaker, and gunblade something
jovial torrent
it was pretty good in pve but 1h axe and mace was better in pvp
jovial torrent
guardian at the time was using staff and 1h shield
wheat jay
guardian i was playing longbow/gs
worldly oriole
I should've played more mage this season or healer
wheat jay
I should've played more mage this season or healer
gay
worldly oriole
smh
bright kraken
@urban skiff when surv
urban skiff
<@205395474784583681> when surv
i forgot
I was busy inching ever so slowly closer to 2.1k
with kids waking up or coming home too early giving us a LOT of losses that should have been wins
lavish quest
I should've played more mage this season or healer
Can we remove this guy?
jovial torrent
just think of all those sweet sweet elite weapons waiting for you to buy them
bright kraken
Almost tbere
bright kraken
I was busy inching ever so slowly closer to 2.1k
Do you play storm or elementalist
urban skiff
the weird build
Stormbringer with priomordial storm
I call it the PEESTORMBRINGER
It probably shouldn't work but it kinda just does
and no dogs
i logged out in totemic lash build because I wanted to try hitting the dummy with something different this time
urban skiff
just think of all those sweet sweet elite weapons waiting for you to buy them
tbh if I can't get it with my wife I don't want it
🙂
jovial torrent
what if you married me on the side and we duo for a bit
urban skiff
Why would i get a side piece just to drop rating?
I actually have a followup question
It sounds like you want to be a wife
jovial torrent
honestly at this point id wear a dress for a stable 3v3 team
jovial torrent
yeh
jovial torrent
possibly, kind of just prepping for mop/next season now and getting all the mogs/mounts i can
urban skiff
We're grabbing randos off of LFG atm so if you can or can't it's no issue
I just can't deal with these redditors who don't understand how ELO systems work
worldly oriole
Lol healing shuffles is aids
urban skiff
His or her MMR was 30 points below their rating and they faced a healer with 100 MMR less than them.
This was the game throwing an easy win to recover the MMR lost from previous matches
worldly oriole
Is there a special event today?
check the travel log.
its telling me buy something on 7/13
jovial torrent
there is a diablo event to grab recolours of the t2 remake
worldly oriole
Luminous Luminaries its saying
jovial torrent
oh i see vasjir stuff
jovial torrent
theres a portal in org/sw where the other cata portals are
worldly oriole
the ports locked on my DH. i think my mage might be able to enter it
jovial torrent
if that char hasnt done the intro quest u have to do that at docks
urban skiff
Is there a special event today?
there's some luminous thing
iirc it's a single day event
jovial torrent
you playing some 3's right now? cus i can try some if u want
urban skiff
you playing some 3's right now? cus i can try some if u want
nah, next time will be sometimes tonight after 21
jovial torrent
yeh thats kl il be around
urban skiff
why is blizzard's own CD manager telling me I have spirit wolves
jovial torrent
that tracker is a mess, have they even made changes to it in past month
urban skiff
seems like a pretty big deal to be wrong about
worldly oriole
I need teammates for my mageXD
urban skiff
What level does turbulent timeways activate? Because I'm getting no buff at level 10-12
urban skiff
I need teammates for my mageXD
what kind of team mate?
worldly oriole
probs RMP. or arcane DH. war mage but im on NA
frank knoll
mw in arena feels great, ibet its even more fun in pve without ppl kicking ur ch...
You play FW in PvE 💪
worldly oriole
lol went 3-3 on DH and gained 40 points in shuff
sharp meteor
why is blizzard's own CD manager telling me I have spirit wolves
crazy how theres like tellmewhen and weakauras and they make this
lavish quest
What level does turbulent timeways activate? Because I'm getting no buff at leve...
Have you queued a timewalking?
verbal tangle
why is blizzard's own CD manager telling me I have spirit wolves
Did you not talent Wolves?
urban skiff
Did you not talent Wolves?
At level 12, no wolves
urban skiff
Have you queued a timewalking?
Yea i did
wheat jay
crazy how theres like tellmewhen and weakauras and they make this
those are evil, and blizz is banning those soon
no more
we're going back to stone ages
sharp meteor
"we don't like weakauras so here's our own considerably worse version"
and buff tracking stuff for self should still be fine
just cant have like
wheat jay
lmao ye
sharp meteor
alerts for enemy auras
wheat jay
pvp had NOTHING to do with them restricting addons
they should have removed some aspects
not outright ban addons or remove them
smh
sharp meteor
mythic raid is wild cos its like
90% learning the weakaura
that tels u what to do
wheat jay
ye
sharp meteor
i get an air horn that tells me to move boss
its like aight
guess hes too close tot hing
wild
but ya it is too much in pve
hope they dont nuke teammate cd trackin tho
gonna own novoice 3s LMFAO
urban skiff
we're going back to stone ages
I'll turn into a god of the arena when that happens
The stuff I've seen these last weeks can only be explained by weakauras blaring airhorns
urban skiff
90% learning the weakaura
let you in on a little secret
I downloaded all the weakauras and bossmod addons they told me to download but I broke them so I could continue to play the game and not just https://tacticalairhorse.itch.io/nerubar-palace with better graphics
sharp meteor
psure the ret in my last guild did that
it'd be his mine pop and he'd kill the raid on cd
urban skiff
lol
I've been feral for most raids, moonkin for the ones where they put a gun to my head and forced me to play ranged, and a brief stint as arms/dk in legion and whenever i needed a break from piss easy gameplay
this shit is so great though
way way way easier to learn mechanics through this than reading a 15 page essay on wowhead or a 40 minute video guide on youtube.
sharp meteor
ya everybody kind of spaces out on 29 min video or 10 minute pre fight chat
its like hi i need to see fight or brain reject info ty
urban skiff
exactly!
especially important to try it to get all the timings right.
Like a feral trivializes movement mechanics and a dk ... does not
lavish quest
mythic raid is wild cos its like
Raiding is waiting for your slowest members to have something click in their empty shells of a head
In my exp
wheat jay
Raiding is waiting for your slowest members to have something click in their emp...
100% that lol
urban skiff
Raiding is waiting for your slowest members to have something click in their emp...
That's exactly me
I'm super stoked and on top of my game. And 200 pulls later when it finally clicks for everyone else i've checked out mentally and play while half or completely asleep
worldly oriole
2300 in shuffles on DH. hopefully snag 2400 quickly lol 😂
spice hornet
Toni aren’t you like 2250 in 3s on DH
sand sundial
I'm super stoked and on top of my game. And 200 pulls later when it finally clic...
Ye same tbh
spice hornet
2250 in 3s is like 3x harder than 2.4 in shuff
lavish quest
Shuffle pretty hard
urban skiff
2250 in 3s is like 3x harder than 2.4 in shuff
Depends on team mates. He could end up on an Infinite string of lobbies containing only rogues and warriors and hunters
wheat jay
2250 in 3s is like 3x harder than 2.4 in shuff
cant get boosted in shuffle
sharp meteor
You can easily get boosted in shuffle.
spice hornet
playing a W key melee with a MS is the boost
sharp meteor
Idk why people who get boosted in 3s queue shuff natty tho
had a 1950 warr eat it insta like 6 rounds in a row
2600 3s 70% wr every season
qing with
ofc
a certain warlock
sharp meteor
who is the lock
murk destros
worldly oriole
the ele i qued with cursed out the healer. and that was the end of that lol
@spice hornet
lavish quest
Nah nah nah. Shuffle is me trying to get round wins when my teammates wanna just throw on my side
sharp meteor
qing brew shuff rn prayge for me
sharp meteor
(all tanks are like that)
worldly oriole
I'm getting back to my roots
Quing DH ARMS right now
got 2900 with that in bfa and my first 2.4
i think the warrior is a pilot. hes sketch and the rdruid is over 2.4
frank knoll
Blitz is when you try to carry 7 people who’s parents are siblings
spice hornet
ive played 1 blitz ever
sharp meteor
i think blitz can be fun its just like 80% of the time u cant q it
spice hornet
i didnt understand why running around and doing my rotation in a death ball resulted in the same rewards for someone getting 2.4k in other brackets
lavish quest
Random aside.
Do you guys realize warrior is the only plate class without a combat horse?
When we getting one? A combat wolf at least, something
Also only plate class without a brez 
frank knoll
Why do you always Queue that’s late ? I queue at like 8:30-11 pm and get games
frank knoll
i didnt understand why running around and doing my rotation in a death ball resu...
That’s not really it
You have to play objective, not just a team death match
lavish quest
all my chars 3000-3200 mmr
I commend you. I queue a blitz and mald off this earth
urban skiff
Random aside.
Do you guys realize warrior is the only plate class without a comb...
Real warriors ride their squires. Time to go 300 and lube up
sharp meteor
just another 200 more cr or som
lavish quest
I can't stand pumping and doing objs and doesn't matter cause I lost the coin flip
lavish quest
Real warriors ride their squires. Time to go 300 and lube up
I'm down for this too
sharp meteor
objs annoyin to me cos like no matter how well i play with heroic throws and ravvys im still just a warr
and am better to pve manfight
which everybody wants to do
even specs with good obj control
so
urban skiff
all my chars 3000-3200 mmr
How far ahead of your rating is your mmr? Isn't it better for your queue time to sink some mmr and still squirrel away some wins?
sharp meteor
How far ahead of your rating is your mmr? Isn't it better for your queue time to...
i should do that for my vulpera chars
cos no cr giga mmr is
bad combo this late
probs too late for these 2 but we'll see
i can maybe get 100 games in within next 3 weeks
urban skiff
At what mmr do i need to consider night queues?
urban skiff
My shaman is 8-0 and i haven't bothered playing more because i was so annoyed a 8-0 only landed me on 1600 rating.
lavish quest
https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-wake-up-scream-avengers-gif-16789680516733779154
Tbf, I don't really care for brez. We should definitely have lust tho
Bloodlust is a warrior thing
Reeeee
frank knoll
I need to start playing healer or tank
I’ve been doing FDK and I feel like ultimately I dont make as much of an impact
I’m thinking MW monk
wheat jay
Tbf, I don't really care for brez. We should definitely have lust tho
we have plenty of lust
unlike rogues and mages
lavish quest
we have plenty of lust
But not lfg invites
wheat jay
i never had problems with invites
lavish quest
Well yeah if you don't apply for groups, sure
I just play tank so I tend not to struggle
Just set my lfg addon to groups with 0 tanks and already have a heal and go crazy
(I don't wait for heals, I go to the groups that already got them kek)
frank knoll
I wouldn’t keys run with Rdruids last season cause they were usually all from Ragnaros/Quel thalas
And they sucked
Like randomly running around in cat form while the whole group is dying from AoE splash
urban skiff
Just realized my hunter is human, what trinkets do i get?
urban skiff
@jovial torrent ofc my kid picks tonight to start throwing up, will let you know if anything changes but for now it's looking difficult to get playtime outside some timewalks or stuff
jovial torrent
yeh its no problem, we can always play next season too , those weps are way cooler
only 8 days till mop
jovial torrent
yeh 21st
then august 12 for 11.2
i feel like its guna take me a whole week just to unscrew my classic chars bags
worldly oriole
im 55 monk 55 war 65 dk
jovial torrent
i dunno wha the hell is wrong with retail client, but classic feels butter smooth like im on 1 ms
jovial torrent
ye its weird
sharp meteor
i dunno wha the hell is wrong with retail client, but classic feels butter smoot...
plater details weakauras
jovial torrent
retail feels like im rubber banding just slightly even with 14 ping
worldly oriole
i feel you though. i actually feel like classic is smoother too
wheat jay
plater details weakauras
more like game eating more resources from your pc
like x10
lmao
bettr graphics etc
takes a lot
sharp meteor
ya some stuff in retail has been rly bad
i remember in sl having like
my memory go up perma sometimes
and turns out having prof menu up just
did that
jovial torrent
its not a fps problem tho really
like in dornagal if im attacking target dummies it feels like it hangs before casting a spell
wheat jay
its not a fps problem tho really
no, but resources and strain on pc
aaaaaaaaand servers responding to more ppl i guess
i dunno im not doing IT
jovial torrent
maybe next patch il remove all my addons and reinstall everything
probs got some really old weakauras firing off too
copper fox
The closer we get to mop
The less I want to play it
Ngl
Game looks so bad (I played back then too)
20+ minute 2s games all rdruid mage or rdruid warr
wheat jay
everyone was jizzing over mop lmao
jovial torrent
might be better, they have increased starting dampening and u can make it ramp faster by clicking orb in waiting room
wheat jay
now ppl are like "ehhh but it was bad"
copper fox
Nah the increased damp didn’t change anything
I played beta
It made games 20 minutes
Instead of 25
jovial torrent
wouldnt know, havent played a single 3's in tww only shuffle and blitz
sharp meteor
everyone was jizzing over mop lmao
idk what it is but people forget the bad after enough time
seen people say bfa was fun
its like are u out u goddam mind
haughty jewel
On Kennie LIFE yall BUGGIN!!!!!!!!
sharp meteor
mop probs least bad version of classic but eh
jovial torrent
i am not looking forward to literally every druid mage rogue tracking all dr's with weakauras booping at them to step kick ect
wheat jay
seen people say bfa was fun
raids in bfa were fun
no joke
well, uldir kinda ass
but bod, azshara, and nyalotha were peak raid boss design
especially nyalotha
haughty jewel
THe best part of BFA was pvp gearing
worldly oriole
uldir was sick
sharp meteor
i loved pvp vault giving crit gear
wheat jay
ye lmao
worldly oriole
when does the season end?
jovial torrent
pvp gearing was awful lol, farm extra sets of azerite power pieces
wheat jay
shadowlands was cool, unironically best pvp gameplay
but forcing ppl to get 2100 to get max gear was terrible XD
sharp meteor
nah that owned
jovial torrent
was nice to have the shoe on the other foot, after so many seasons of having to get pve weps/trinkets
sharp meteor
i kill everybody opener to 2100 mmr on a warr in unranked gear
jovial torrent
but pve babies couldnt take it for even one season
sharp meteor
ya bunch of guys havin to ask their wifey if they could rmt a pvp boost
so they didnt get benched from their top 10k guild
wheat jay
i kill everybody opener to 2100 mmr on a warr in unranked gear
lmao
sharp meteor
the thing i remember most about sl 2s was like
wheat jay
still, gameplay wise
jovial torrent
the ppl who cried about having to farm pvp for the weps are the same ppl that want bg gearin to be about smashing ppl with high ilvl pve gear
wheat jay
shadowlands was #1 expansion
sharp meteor
i could win 12 in a row with a bad rdruid
and they'd int one game
whatever
then i get kicked
jovial torrent
thats my lfg life haha, goes well or we play 2-3 games and back to lfg
copper fox
Yea it’s just clinging on to nostalgia
sharp meteor
if its lfg or the bear i choose the bear
jovial torrent
i really dont know what it would take to get my irl friends to play wow pvp
sharp meteor
if u help them gear and queue with them and tell them what to do its aight
if u let them figure it out ever its just so doomed
jovial torrent
they tryhard in everything , league, football games, shooters, rocket car but wow they just refused
lavish quest
And easier entry
No entry is easy I guess
sharp meteor
wow pvp u get ur head put through the wall and quit
jovial torrent
the only way i could get them to play is if i pilot their account farm all the gear they need, set up their addons/ui and they just sit down to play
i really dunno why we bother with honor/conquest gear at this point
just get everyone straight away in conquest ilvl gear, make conquest just to buy the mog
copper fox
No entry is easy I guess
It is. Classic community is bis only. You can q plenty of comps to glad on retail
sharp meteor
?
progression
people play an mmorpg complain about mmorpg
they make gearing take 5 hours (right now) nobody plays
all wow players know is logging on and filling the bar
"just make gearing faster" itsbasically insta
lavish quest
It is. Classic community is bis only. You can q plenty of comps to glad on retai...
I'm not saying classic is better 3s entry. Just 3s overall, kinda ass to get into
sharp meteor
esp relative to pve
copper fox
I'm not saying classic is better 3s entry. Just 3s overall, kinda ass to get int...
Fair. I actually do think the addon wipe will help a lot
lavish quest
Mop was peak tho 😎
Tho prob less with how the game was designed, and more with how gaming was at the time
wheat jay
all wow players know is logging on and filling the bar
ye, its not 2005 old man
noone gives a fuck about long term gearing to play on equal terms
you gotta be equal from the start
lavish quest
you gotta be equal from the start
False
sharp meteor
noone gives a fuck about long term gearing to play on equal terms
u can take a char from 0 gear to full bis in a day
and that still isnt enough
u can get 2400 for breathing in soloq
and that isn't enough
lavish quest
I play warrior, it's never equal
worldly oriole
solo que is rubbish
sharp meteor
nah gear diffs own
they prune gear diff now people get gapped by skill and quit cos they have no copes
sharp meteor
me having same power level as some unranked peasant so disgustin
wheat jay
ye
like, some ppl here are good
not regular pvp andies
that struggle to get their 1800
i can log in at any moment and get 2100 or 2400 in a week or two
that's not regular
sharp meteor
starting mmr is almost 2k
jovial torrent
yeh and they go 0-6 and bomb it to 1400 lol
jovial torrent
less than 30% of pvpers have 1800
sharp meteor
anime pfps not knowing what mmr is
worldly oriole
lol went up 100 in shuffle this morning
but then i got the worst lobby and asked myself why im even doing it
jovial torrent
i know clickers with 3k m+ io
jovial torrent
which is prety funny, they would never get 1800
sharp meteor
for anybody who actually does keys
lavish quest
2k = 1500?
Someone doesn't know how numbers work
sharp meteor
idk how to explain what 2k starting mmr means
lavish quest
Means mmr starts at 2k
jovial torrent
why does that matter
sharp meteor
because that's the base
jovial torrent
i feel like i missed why we were talking about 2k starting mmr
sharp meteor
you're like people start there and tank out
when that's the equiv of 1500
cos everybody gets
violently pushed up
lavish quest
So who cares what the base is? Only matters for your first match
sharp meteor
for existing
spice hornet
My healer buddy unironically thinks legend is harder than gladiator for healers
jovial torrent
i dunno how much new accounts actually start on cus i think its more like 1800, my pala started this season 2100 mmr which was brutal in greens after conquest was uncapped
sharp meteor
its like 1950-1980ish now
spice hornet
Did @copper fox give up on MoP?
sharp meteor
anything higher is mmr rolling over
jovial torrent
makes sense, it was like a month ago when i played pala
sharp meteor
my third prot is like 2500ish mmr with no games played
cos he was 2500 last seas + inflation
sharp meteor
i dunno how much new accounts actually start on cus i think its more like 1800, ...
and ya with last seas chars u have 2 options
play insta in greens to get cr up and maintain
or full gear and push it later
cos coming in down massively on ilev sucks
jovial torrent
it was pretty funny ooming in solo shuffle
sharp meteor
placement mmr is so tragic cos like
lavish quest
Kennie. Explain, what's the issue with 2k being the starting MMR exactly?
sharp meteor
was explainin to chopp what it meant in the context of like
it not really being 2k
it just the new 1500
baseline
so anybody finding 2k too high initially
would also find 1.5k too high
but ya healers have increased flexibility so they end up like
lavish quest
Well that's just the system sucking
lavish quest
mmr Inflation is ass
urban skiff
it just the new 1500
not really, at 1.5k you could only drop to 1300ish before the system but a hard stop on how much MMR you could lose. At 2k mmr start you can still drop to 1300 MMR relatively quickly
sharp meteor
xd
sharp meteor
not really, at 1.5k you could only drop to 1300ish before the system but a hard ...
wrong buddy
it dont stop assuming u play enough
lavish quest
I played verdant and idk what u mean
sharp meteor
I played verdant and idk what u mean
thats the seas they effectively turned off inflation
lavish quest
Inflation just means everything but the end doesn't matter
urban skiff
can tank to 800 mmr
no, because it slows down because of lack of players
lavish quest
thats the seas they effectively turned off inflation
And?
sharp meteor
no, because it slows down because of lack of players
ya cos everybody winning 20% o ftheir games quits
lavish quest
Well yeah cause the starting mmr that never went up was too low
urban skiff
If everybody started at 0 MMR, would it be perfect then?
jovial torrent
im just such a dumbass i always go hard first 1/3 of a season and burn myself out
urban skiff
so nothing wrong if they fall from 2k over 1500
lavish quest
But you naturally want to go hard early on. But blizz literally makes you a c uck if you do so
worldly oriole
ya going hard early was such a mistake for me i think but i got some reps in
jovial torrent
hit 2200 in bfa shadowlands early season but never came back to ride the inflation
lavish quest
Inflation = ass
jovial torrent
just makes me sad every time i see ppl say x season was so free and i just skipped it
lavish quest
Verdant no Inflation but mmr was low at the start of the season so they forgot to have it start at the high where it should be
sharp meteor
basically what people want is just an easy initially inflated seas
lavish quest
Pve slightly inflated by gear, but not really
jovial torrent
they need to go back to % based again and just make it what it is at the end of season
jovial torrent
like if ur in top 10% fe wmonths into season u get mount
lavish quest
Has been for long long time
worldly oriole
ya i need to get back to my roots. and play pve lol
atleast legion dungeons are in the rotation
jovial torrent
guna make sure i get my rng vaults from m+ next season
sharp meteor
they need to go back to % based again and just make it what it is at the end of ...
"they should make rewards harder" ok thats a hot take
jovial torrent
no not harder
sharp meteor
i mean it kind of has to happen
havin soloq give easier more conveient rewards was a bad decision by them
jovial torrent
lets say at the end of the season when everything is inflated about 10% of pvp player base has 2400
wheat jay
Inflation = ass
no inflation, mmr at 2400+
jovial torrent
make it trigger at q's above top 10% instead of random 2400 when rating changes every season
lavish quest
Feel like if you make pvp less rewarding, that shit will prune up
wheat jay
below 2400+, make it win/loss equal gains and losses
lavish quest
People already feel it isn't rewarding as is
jovial torrent
ye i defo dont wana make it less rewarding
jovial torrent
if it were up to me id make glad mount = to mythic io 3k
jovial torrent
ppl say free, but is it really free if its only top x%
lavish quest
Well I mean availability. If you make the availability super low, people just not gonna bother
lavish quest
If you Zercher, why would you queue up if every reward is 2400+
Also % means no reward till the end, and further incentiving only queue at the rnd
Unless a weekly payout or some shit
jovial torrent
yeh u can make it payout after 1 month into season
and then every week after
not before that just to give ppl a chance to q so ppl who play first day dont randomly get it when they shouldnt
just add rewards to solo shuffle!, times change old man blizzard!
lavish quest
Well you got the Kennies out here, too many people got what I got and I feel like they didn't work hard enough for it.
sharp meteor
I mean I don't care I'm outside that cycle
It just sucks for anybody tryng to play 2v2 or 3v3
lavish quest
What, you literally voice that repeatedly
sharp meteor
Because it sucks for the game, yuh.
jovial torrent
id be down for them to add a true solo q, where its just you q get a comp then play like best of 3 or even just 1 game
lavish quest
The opposite sucks even more. Less people would queue
sharp meteor
gestures at the entire game before solo queue invalidated the entire reward structure
anyways
ya no going back now
lavish quest
Yes, people didn't queue before
jovial torrent
yet more ppl q solo shuffle even without being able to get a glad mount, kind of shows how unappealing 3v3 and lfg is
lavish quest
But also, people and the gaming were different then
If you did that now, would bomb so hard
sharp meteor
soloq as a concept is fine it just hsouldn't have invalidated other modes entirely for 90%
butthey went ahead and did that so
kind of stinks for most people
jovial torrent
yet league of legends is one of if not the biggest pvp games and everyone plays soloq
lavish quest
You say most people, but hardly anyone queued them before. Just if they wanted to ranked pvp they had to. So most people actually just didn't
jovial torrent
game would be dead if u could only q 5v5 clash
lavish quest
Fact
jovial torrent
wow playerbase was 5-x10 higher than it is now
maybe 20x or more at peak
i bet were at like 1-2 mil retail players where before it was 13
lavish quest
Shuffle killed 3s is like me personally killing a cow because I ate a burger
sharp meteor
killed premade arena cos more convenient and accessible ya
lavish quest
sharp meteor
also considerably easier to push
why be 1900 3s when ur 2400 shuff etc
when the former also requires findin people
jovial torrent
its a self fulfilling problem tho, its only harder cus less ppl play
lavish quest
Before it was why be 1900 3s when you could just not play
sharp meteor
nah people just played 2s if 3s was too hard
urban skiff
who are our survival players in here?
sharp meteor
who are our survival players in here?
vesas
lavish quest
Yeah, people just played 2s before
jovial torrent
yeh having to find 1 person instead of 2 is way more chill, usually have one other guildy whos down to randomly
q
but getting another and making it a good comp is hard
lavish quest
Well... 2s you could get everything you could get from 3s minus glad, and was much less of a hassle
And if you couldn't get glad anyways, why bother with 3s?
jovial torrent
it was way more simple too, no cross cc just dampen eachother into the ground at low rating
urban skiff
2s needs to be rating per spec, full same rewards as in 3s but they're based entirely around your ladder place as the spec you play.
lavish quest
3s still has that sacred reason to play it, glad.
urban skiff
that would solve a lot
jovial torrent
sadly less ppl care
lavish quest
But still no one plays it, as if you can't get glad anyways, why bother?
jovial torrent
ppl dont even know what the pvp enchant is so its kind of worthless when ppl dont even recognise it
lavish quest
So they didn't queue it before, they don't care after shuffle either
lavish quest
sadly less ppl care
Well yeah, because the game is reward overloaded
Pvp used to be the only spot for cool enchants really
Now they all over the place
urban skiff
@bright kraken who do I partner with in 2s survival?
jovial torrent
just saying its so unattainable , stuff like glad mounts and enchants glide over peoples head theres no prestiege to it anymore cus noone cares about pvp as a whole
jovial torrent
its like being a pro womens football team, noone gives a f lol
lavish quest
So there's no plebs to worship the top
jovial torrent
anyone in the world can name 5 male pro footballers, ppl cant name a single female one
lavish quest
Then the top doesn't care anymore becuase they aren't being stroked by noobs
jovial torrent
yep , then it deathspirals
sharp meteor
just saying its so unattainable , stuff like glad mounts and enchants glide over...
duelists every seas
urban skiff
just saying its so unattainable , stuff like glad mounts and enchants glide over...
people don't care about the prestige of enchants ever since we got ladders and websites to show relative placement. Who cares if you have a rare pvp enchant from WotLK if you aren't really high rated in the current game?
Appearances stopped denoting skill the same time RIO scores became really popular with the playerbase
sharp meteor
people don't care about the prestige of enchants ever since we got ladders and w...
wotlk had weps not chants