pvp

[urban skiff]

Send kid to school, drop other kid off in kindergarden, send wife to school

House to myself, good times

[green wharf]

you got from a warlock and you cant use?

or you cant use on the warlock

[urban skiff]

nah, made on my warlock. Could use it on my warlock only after hitting a pvp dummy

Apparently it's to avoid people using them for pve content where pvp talents are still active

[fickle forge]

What the hell is survival hunter bro

[spice hornet]

survival can crank hard

[urban skiff]

wow's equivalent to the gunlance

WEHAWHEHOWAEHOAWHEWAE

lost that round

[fickle forge]

Like my full greens survival just cranks 1 mill dps

[urban skiff]

Might just not scale well with stats and have high base dam

[fickle forge]

That does not make sense bro

[urban skiff]

Mathematically it makes sense

[copper fox]

Guys BM is too hard for me

[urban skiff]

If other classes double (just picking an easy number) their dps going from green to full conq gear, are you expecting to deal 2m dps when you get full conq?

[urban skiff]

Can't play, dik too hard

literally just unloaded 50 of these fuckers at 3.4k and this happens

[fierce elm]

goddamn just not your day

[urban skiff]

I mean it's only 25k but that's still 25k I could have used on something fun

[rancid granite]

something fun like buying and selling more gems?

[fickle forge]

Which again, doesn't make sense bro, since everything is linear and no ability has base damage

[urban skiff]

It's a fact that not all specs scale the same

So then it only becomes a question about how wide or narrow the gap between starter gear and capped gear is, and whether this is true for your spec or not

[fickle forge]

I am promising you 100% that the difference between 13 ilvl does not make or break any spec

There are very few tier sets in the game that actually make a difference as well

[urban skiff]

Is not what i said

But some specs gain 50k dps from 13 ilvls and some gain 150k

but they're still very close at full gear

again, numbers pulled out my ass

[rancid granite]

what were numbers doing in your ass in the first place

[worldly oriole]

WoW is so pay 2 win in the current year...

smh

[urban skiff]

havin' fun

[urban skiff]

where do i pay to win?

I just want my shuffle rating high enough that people believe me when I tell them to stack crit

[boreal veldt]

I feel targeted

or seen, i feel seen too

[rancid granite]

i just turned more of my pieces to tier lol

which is just trading vers for crit

it's pretty epic

[urban skiff]

Don't feel targeted, it was my dream to hit page1 of murlokio and have a completely separate gear set to log out in that is all crit for my enh shaman

Drachtyr demonhunter when

man i'd be so happy

[sharp meteor]

Ever have a rough start to the season

[urban skiff]

Yea

My main shaman needed like 400 rounds of shuffle to hit 1800 in shuffle

then my alt needed like 20 rounds or something for the same

[fickle forge]

I'm so confused man, how do you reach 2.4k in shuffle on Rsham, and then not spec grounding into thunder cleave

[sharp meteor]

Huh.

Maybe they forgot.

I feel like it's so uncommon to drop grounding though that when you do and forget it's just not worth ever

like warr with tremor

[fickle forge]

Nah like, he didn't spec it 3 games in a row

[sharp meteor]

xd

oh

[fickle forge]

Into thunder, evoker+survival and DH+ele

[urban skiff]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/enhanced-visuals-for-the-war-within-season-3-tier-sets-datamined-patch-11-2-377451

Datamined effects, finally time to confirm what that hat do

lmao ok that isn't conclusive

Hunter straight up lost season3 elite contest

[sharp meteor]

Hey it's a work in progress.

Also man I can't get over how they decided to keep the bat for 3 seasons

[boreal veldt]

We've had 3 really cool themes for this expac, spooders, goblin, ethereals, and all pvp gets is bats

[rancid granite]

-manliest class
-pink armor set

[sharp meteor]

keys are like

goblin spider mech

raid is like

gallywix head mount

pvp: stinky legion bat

[boreal veldt]

coming off the DF pvp mounts, this is batshit

[urban skiff]

Going forward that's the style, each expansion has same base mount that changes a bit between seasons

Maybe we'll see recolours of exclusive TWW mounts in midnight

[spice hornet]

how much kennie pay for this

[urban skiff]

Also midnight is a really shitty expansion name, can't shorten it at all

[sharp meteor]

zero imma raiderman now

[urban skiff]

No way to turn midnight into a trigram without calling it just MID

[spice hornet]

kennie does it all

[rancid granite]

MN

[sharp meteor]

cept keys im not as smart or determined as mr tonis

[rancid granite]

DF TWW MN

easy

[urban skiff]

THAT'S A BIGRAM

True LGBTQ+ expansion with that bigram name

[copper fox]

astral warlord

[fierce elm]

ASTRAL WARLORD

[copper fox]

I feel like bgb titles are so gatekept

It’s going to be a pain in the ass

[sharp meteor]

how is arms lookin

who the second person gonna be

[copper fox]

Titles will probably be

1. Omnivore
2. Omnivore
3. Yermal

Rend tryna pull up on yermal but idk

[sharp meteor]

oh right yermals i thought he was furyin or arenain

funny that every spec is 3 slots

cos blitz deadge

arena players in shuff and bg players premade randoms because they suck

[copper fox]

Yermal has fury # 2 also. Which is kinda lame as well lol same
Title

[sharp meteor]

oh yeah multiple slots just eat the title

like if you're in fury and arms and prot you grab a title from each but it also doesn't pass down to next person

[copper fox]

Yea there’s definitely gotta be a way they can limit that as well

[sharp meteor]

no reward for getting multiple titles

except denying somebody

[copper fox]

Bum behavior

[lucid walrus]

12

[fickle forge]

It may be time

[wheat jay]

Shadopan or youre gay

[north thicket]

I feel you... Trying out Fury Thane in arenas and sweet Lord it sucks

Unsure how pro gamers make it work. It's just so average, like C- bot spec without serious kill potential

[sharp meteor]

idk if ive seen fury

doesnt rly have a purpose outside of titles

spec has dmg and thats it

[sharp meteor]

[wheat jay]

Is that like 1600 for prot warr?

[sharp meteor]

ya

buff prot

[copper fox]

He’s back

[rancid granite]

kennie is one cool cat

[copper fox]

@sharp meteor

Not quite as cool as # 1

But

[sharp meteor]

aw yiss

[copper fox]

I want this season to be over so badly

[sharp meteor]

one month to go

[rancid granite]

y

[copper fox]

I’m bored and I want to spam bgb next season for title attempt

[rancid granite]

true

[north thicket]

are you really spamming bgb as solo queue?

asking since it's feels like a dice / swamp at 1.9-2k

[copper fox]

I’ve solod 2 seasons in a row for strategist but next season I’ll be duoing most of the time because I want r1

[north thicket]

wow

[copper fox]

Idk just do unhealable dmg, use fear well in team fight, know what targets to hit/when to swap and ofc objectives.
Same as any PvP advice really. Finished this season with a 62% win rate so

Not like amazing but not 50% lol

[rancid granite]

62% in bgb as a warrior to top it off??

sounds amazing

[north thicket]

indeed

[copper fox]

Last season I ended @ 56%

[north thicket]

do you feel you make a real difference

[copper fox]

There were definitely games I capped flags/crystal etc that made a difference

[sharp meteor]

kill people while spinnin node

its like pretty

[copper fox]

Warrior diff is important on AB

I win BS most of the time

[sharp meteor]

every warr mid just

is a 2k

[copper fox]

Against whatever

[sharp meteor]

bot

u can gap other warr

so immensely hard

[copper fox]

Yea exactly

[sharp meteor]

cos you get so far as warr just kind of existing

and never really have somebody tryna kill you

[vapid tartan]

Blitz is a flip at all ratings solo

[sharp meteor]

had game with 30 kill disadvantage

next game 40 kills up

disparities so bad sometimes

[frank knoll]

Team fighting in blitz as DH is no bueno

Everyone think ur scary so u have cc/roots etc spammed on u

[sharp meteor]

pressin grip on the dh who tries to leave the team fight

[frank knoll]

I always tell people
Imagine if you couldn’t press wings or bladestorm because ur in a root
That’s DH gameplay

[cyan sluice]

I haven't done any blitz this season should I play warrior or dh

[sharp meteor]

dhs get rooted once when nothin is happenin and freak out

[frank knoll]

They derserve it for not using VR to leave when a DK is around

[sharp meteor]

hm imma be real this thane bonus seems awful

[copper fox]

S3?

[sharp meteor]

ya

[copper fox]

Yea I already think thane is more dead than it currently is

In s3

[frank knoll]

But ya meta atleast should remove roots

[sharp meteor]

clap does 50k extra dmg

wow rancid

can also proc another clap a smalla mount of the time

wow

horrific

at least that hopefully means more buffs to base abilities

when warr gets bandided into playabilty with a 5% buff every few weeks

[copper fox]

Problem is it gets 2 5% buffs then a 15% nerf lol

[sharp meteor]

my executes gonna cleave

gonna actually parse on teams that stack

[north thicket]

the funny thing is

while prot gets cool execute talents

it makes colossus feel stupid

[verbal tangle]

Prot just spams Shield Slam with full stacks like a god

[north thicket]

because - guess what - someone decided that execute won't count as demo stack

[sharp meteor]

ya

gonna feel weird for colo

like u dont rly have anything

except slam and demo

and ig revenge but that seems

so scuffed LMAO

[copper fox]

I don’t understand this non slayer talk

[verbal tangle]

The board boys don't get Slayer, unfortunately

Slayer Prot sounds like it would slap asscheeks

[sharp meteor]

slayer prot with storm

would go nuts

holy

[frank knoll]

Watching 28 years later
This movie is stressful lol

[copper fox]

I’d play the shit out of that

[sharp meteor]

ya that'd go stupid

revenge and slam both feel kind of eh

clap feels bad outside of thane empower

so more executes would be yum

[latent current]

Is anyone alive here?

[sharp meteor]

in a sense

[fallen estuary]

prot in mop gets bladestorm

literally pop ur burst and equip 2 hander as prot and bladestorm away ez

[latent current]

Who wants to fights a bit?

[iron ravine]

Sure, meet me behind the Walmart at midnight. No weapons.

[latent current]

Got it

Waiting for u

[iron ravine]

midnight is over 12hrs away

[latent current]

Too long to wait

[urban skiff]

You know that zado guy who's runniing premade epic BGs?

He was in here, then we all mass reported him and now he's not

and now we're doing ok

[urban skiff]

Midnight release when?

[floral mirage]

We ignore demolish?

[urban skiff]

i certainly ignore demolish when I see a war

lol

[lost juniper]

Perfect for SS

[rancid granite]

mmmm banana bread

you should try chocolate chips in it sometime

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-gae-pepe-julien-gif-13687553676606303412

[rancid granite]

is there a minimum vers stat we are trying to hit

i thought it was mostly defensive but it seems its a good chunk of dmg too

[gentle frost]

Happy Sunday warrior brothers. Is anyone familiar with the bug(?) of an enemy warrior seeming to rubber-band around an area? I’ve seen it a couple times now, would love to know if there’s a way to try and replicate it like priest using MC to disco someone

[fickle forge]

It is just defensive

It doesn't do as much dam as mastery

[urban skiff]

I think lagboxes are getting a bit more popular these days

[gentle frost]

That’s exactly what it looks like, for some reason I thought lag switching was a technique of times long gone

[urban skiff]

but it's multiplicative with mastery right?

So with a fixed amount of rating there's going to be a spot where the scaling lines intersect, where they each benefit each other the most

[fickle forge]

Yeah it is, but I don't think you should worry about that with the low stat budget we have

[urban skiff]

Too late

already making a calculator just for the sake of it

[fickle forge]

You can graph it in to see at what point the damage diff outweights

[fickle forge]

I would graph it dude

Instead of finding a fixed value

[urban skiff]

calculating is just graphing without the lines

[rancid granite]

I changed some vers/stat pieces to tier which is like crit/stat maybe it was all in my head tho

only 2 ss matches felt like I did less big damn overall

Basically -8% vers and +8% crit

[fickle forge]

I'll make one then

[urban skiff]

sure

wait, are we doing this for arms or fury?

[rancid granite]

col arms ofc

[fierce elm]

holy fucking nerds

[rancid granite]

mage discord rn

[wheat jay]

https://youtube.com/shorts/6CXMpk221ec?si=mN7__3L7tCDUuUqY

[fickle forge]

I'll do for arms

[wheat jay]

Bro these guys are wack lmao

[urban skiff]

how the fuck do i enable solver in excel?

[wheat jay]

Instead of graphing your stats, learn to play the game better smh

[urban skiff]

I hate using my own excel instead of work excel, nothing is set up right

[urban skiff]

I'm just out here maximizing my damage vs dummy

[frank knoll]

I’m in ELO hell in blitz now

Lost 4 in a row

Won one and gained 0 rating

[urban skiff]

Rating is a rewards track, MMR is your progression/skill

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/frankly-thats-a-skill-issue-hazzikostas-ion-ion-hazzikostas-skill-issue-gif-21595688

[urban skiff]

@fickle forge it's literally 50%

at least when I'm spending 10k rating on haste and crit

and assuming almost 48k secondary stat budget to split

Ok I forgot about the baseline mastery 10%

around 7:3 ratio between ratings

[fickle forge]

I'm doing the deluded a favour

[sand sundial]

Math in my warrior pvp group?

Get that shit out of here

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-ltg-tie-him-up-gif-11927923657429006938

[lavish quest]

Think less win more

[urban skiff]

Done yet?

I can't get it better while there are 4 screaming kids and a wife

[sand sundial]

You have 4 children?

You're like those guys on reddit

[rancid granite]

you mean.. dads?

[urban skiff]

Fewer, but kids have friends and cousins and they really like being here instead of at their friends' houses

[rancid granite]

[urban skiff]

Yea that was a bit odd

[rancid granite]

lol i assume he meant the cliche dad gamers but im just teasing him

the common 'im a dad and i just got 1400 i love life' posts 🥰

[chilly pivot]

0 rating in blitz, why i didnt get pop

[rancid granite]

re-queue an hour ago

[chilly pivot]

i did twice

total over 2h in que xd

[copper fox]

Nah

Some shits funky there

[urban skiff]

How much have you lost? If mmr gets low enough game can no longer find queues for you

[craggy igloo]

hey how do i track progress on legend wins in shuffle

[chilly pivot]

xd

[copper fox]

Oh

[frank knoll]

@urban skiff

[copper fox]

You’re negative mmr

That’s why

There’s no one to play with when you suck that badly

[rancid granite]

[chilly pivot]

haha damn

[copper fox]

lol jk but srs

If you lose 2+ in a row as your first games

You’re cooked

[lost juniper]

@urban skiff no this is drysift hash.

[frank knoll]

Blitz is random BGs with a rating attached
Everyone is clueless
You won’t make an impact unless you play rogue or healer or something

[urban skiff]

That can take you pretty low but shouldn't end your career yet.

[chilly pivot]

will try que with a random healer

[urban skiff]

I don't remember asking but pretty cool none the less, good job 🙂

[lost juniper]

No idea why it tagged you bro

[rancid granite]

lol

[lost juniper]

Some us person thought it was banana bread

[urban skiff]

No worries. I get tagged a lot in here

[rancid granite]

it looks like it'd give me a panic attack

[urban skiff]

Looks pretty cool m8, mind linking the items?

[lost juniper]

That's too bad

U sure ur a warrior?

Seem sus to me

[urban skiff]

I've played with someone with under 800 mmr so it can still work

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-berserk-berserk1999-griffith-old-anime-gif-16052936

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-guts-guts-berserk-black-swordsman-evil-smile-gif-8851187099688666424

what happened to the math on vers stat anyway

maybe we can go full haste/mast stats and keep vers 15-20%

[fickle forge]

No, I've been seeing the sea at the edge of Alrø

[urban skiff]

Is that Netflix?

[fickle forge]

Can man have some patience

[fickle forge]

Brother you must know Alrø

I know it's scary cause it's outside the edge of our metropolis

[urban skiff]

I grew up in vestjylland

I miss the smell of sea and cows

[fickle forge]

Alrø is basically that

Except it consists of 1 road through the whole island

[lost juniper]

My family is from vestjylland but I grew up in skåne

[urban skiff]

The Danish reclaimation of Skåne continues unhindered

[copper fox]

PSure 0-3 is lower than 800

[urban skiff]

I did 0-3 and just barely got under 1k

[copper fox]

Some people go 10-0 and they’re 1800+ some people are 1600.
His 0-3 was likely under 800

There’s no rhyme or reason there’s no math equation

[urban skiff]

i went 8-0 and got barely over 1600

funky is funky

maybe he started with lower MMR because he inherited a negative one from s1? That happened to my feral in s2

[green wharf]

colossus 🤮

[rancid granite]

i got my 2400 as slayer now i just want big numbers

burst playstyle of colossus/subtlety is my jam

[copper fox]

This lorewalking shit

Is the most boring content they ever put in the game

[rancid granite]

you get a cool toy though 👍

[fickle forge]

@urban skiff @rancid granite This is what I get

You will never reach a point where versa outdams mastery

So just weight the defensive option yourself and conclude whether it's good or not

[fierce elm]

uhm not true

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-meme-radar-gif-26497624

[fierce elm]

if I have 500k vers its better

[fickle forge]

Don't type that out

[fierce elm]

I just did lmao

get fucked nerdo

[fickle forge]

And we're all running around with 25% versa anyway or so, so it will very literally never reach a point where it'll start to outdam mastery

[rancid granite]

What about vers vs crit? That was my main point LMAO

[fickle forge]

Even worse bro

Don't dabble on crit

[rancid granite]

trying to find middle ground between the normal and Bless's full crit/mast

and willing to sacrifice defense

[urban skiff]

why does this look backwards?

[fickle forge]

Unless you want them to decrease in value

It ain't

[urban skiff]

I don't think you're taking into consideration that they're multiplicative bonuses so 1.2 x 1.2 = 1.44 but 1.0 x 1.4 0 = 1.40

That's what I'm talking about

when I talk about intersection

[fickle forge]

I am

It's deviation

[urban skiff]

huh

[fickle forge]

All you gotta know is that you need too high values of mastery from gear for it to matter

[urban skiff]

You want to have the highest modifier for each, since we're only multiplying two numbers. So there's going to be a ratio where both percentages are at their highest

and you have a baseline mastery that skews those modifiers

[fickle forge]

What even is the highest modifier

You wanna pop the entire stat budget in there?

[urban skiff]

I made a subtraction button for haste

since mastery has a fixed baseline the more you subtract the more it skews towards vers

in this case 41:59 ratio gives the highest modifier

I can't remember how to install and enable the solve addon in excel so i just manually adjust the D2 cell until the damage multiplier number is the highest possible

did it with screaming kids and aggro wife so there's a non-zero chance that i reversed the ratio button or some other dumb mistake

[rancid granite]

it was still a crit question yall ran off with it do be nerdy 😭

[fickle forge]

Yeah but we don't care about crit

Crit is dumb

It ain't for you

[urban skiff]

crit is better the more crit you have

per point

but also crit is wild the lower crit you have because the budget goes to increase your base damage

[spice hornet]

@urban skiff is it true denmark has great bacon

[urban skiff]

the only reason China buys bacon from anywhere else is because we keep so much of it for ourselves

[fickle forge]

Enh sham is not it

[urban skiff]

Just fucking let us thunderstorm allies

or haymaker at least

[fickle forge]

You can thunderstorm allies

[urban skiff]

I meant out of rootbeam

[fickle forge]

I mean my 2.3k BM hunter here doesn't play freedom

[urban skiff]

big deal, i sometimes play tremor totem into teams without fears

:S

[spice hornet]

Bm hunter starts at 2.3k

[urban skiff]

what does surv start at?

[fickle forge]

God enh sham fucking blows man lmao

[urban skiff]

are you playing totemic lash?

[fickle forge]

Are you like this 2.3k ele sham that doesn't pick grounding into boomy+BM too then?

Find the grounding totem

[urban skiff]

I was too afraid to say I don't play grounding so I said tremor instead...

[fickle forge]

I mean shuffle is completely cursed

[urban skiff]

I try to use grounding but I don't have the fancy weakaura that screams to use grounding totem when healer is getting pet stun by a hunter so I just can't make use of it same was as you guys

best I can do is shear+ground mages trying to spam poly

[fickle forge]

I don't use WAs either

I just react to shit like incarn or when my healer is about to take stun into trap

[urban skiff]

how do you spot the stun before the trap?

Hunter has really weird rules for petstun so it's not like he has to run up close to do it

[fickle forge]

Just ues BigDebuffs

[urban skiff]

uh

[copper fox]

lol

[urban skiff]

So then I have to keep my healer in front of me so I can see when he gets stunned?

[copper fox]

Farming Jordonz is one of my all time favorite wow experiences

Guys ego is regarded

[boreal veldt]

Just assume they were slacking and it's always healer's fault like we always do

[urban skiff]

There is no way i can notice a stun trap via that. I would have to check party interface every single global

That's the opposite of fun

[lost juniper]

Indeed, God willing one day it will replace its yellow in skåne flag with white.

[rancid granite]

does anyone else hate paladins (and dk's to an extent) as much as i do

i swear to god they are worse than balance druids and their bear ass

every match just paladins mounting and running away

[urban skiff]

I hate that they have the utility i should have. They get so many extra lives and i'm kind of tired of having to kill them so many times while they keep rolling dice and might get lucky killing my partner with a few lucky crits down the line.

Make them choose between lay on hands and bubble as talents.

[cosmic field]

wa/omnibar then

or just get reps in until you get sixth sense on timings

[boreal veldt]

love hate, mostly just cause i always enjoy running tsg

[rancid granite]

lol

I mean in a sense idc what abilities they have; it's more so just fighting a bitchy playstyle.. platewearer constantly running away kiting like theyre a cloth mage it's just ugh =p

cowards

[boreal veldt]

ok now that i get, plate shouldn't be running and still able to dps quite well

[rancid granite]

(this coupled with paladin/dk constantly horsing around running at 300% movement speed while im perma slowed rp walking)

[cosmic field]

and have freedom, loh, bop and 1 button rotation as part of spec

at least they don't have ms

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-running-away-escape-getaway-bye-gif-16631286

pov you're fighting a paladin

[fast basalt]

are people playing colossus again in pvp?
i just decided to dust off warr again, and noticed top two are colossus

notice top one doesnt use spear either so how do i guarantee demolish hits, do i need to get trinket and stormbolt demolish?

[rancid granite]

you can send demo randomly and still have it land

but, sure, its better to have them cc'd for it

[fast basalt]

nice

i was suprised to see it as popular as it seems

[boreal veldt]

both slayer and col are in a good spot tbh

[little junco]

I see some warriors running haste over mastery, others the way around, what stats should I go for?

[boreal veldt]

for arms you'd like enough haste so it feels good to play, then dump into mastery

conq is uncapped so just play around with it

[rancid granite]

20-30% haste seems the go to for anyone; then, really, 20-30% mastery

[little junco]

Ok thanks 🙂

[urban skiff]

Anyone remember what that tem that activates gateway is called?

[sharp meteor]

gateway control shard

[urban skiff]

thanks

[fickle forge]

Get me out of shuffle

[wheat jay]

Masochist

[fickle forge]

I'm sitting 35 min Q times for a triple arms lobby

End me

[wheat jay]

Don't need to

You're ending yourself

Meanwhile I was enjoying some single player games today

Life is good

[rancid granite]

single player games (or cleaning house) is what you do in solo shuffle

goofin if you do anything else

[undone lichen]

new to war and even more to pvp but I want to farm the elite appearance. what will be the easiest spec for me to do that fury or arms and what are the pros and cons of both?

[fickle forge]

My plan of attack in that shuffle was to /afk

[fickle forge]

Arms
Don't think about fury

[rancid granite]

copy build from murlok.io

go slayer and MS spam

[verbal tangle]

Prot if you hate yourself and everyone around you

[rancid granite]

yeah afk mentally; physically zug tho

[fickle forge]

I mean it should never happen

Why can a lobby consist of 3 identical specs

[rancid granite]

sounds fun to me cause how often does it really happen

give me a 3 arms lobby give me the chance to flex on 2 other warrs

[fickle forge]

I'd go play CS GO if I was looking to play mirror

[rancid granite]

damn i was just talking about CS today too

relating it to WoW :^)

if it happened often enough id be so annoyed but it's rare to me at least so its a fun chaotic moment

[fickle forge]

It happens a lot that shuffle just annoys me

Doesn't punish people enough for bad plays

[scarlet barn]

what doesnt annoy you

[fickle forge]

3s

[scarlet barn]

Lies

[fickle forge]

Nein

And you know it

3s is where I vibe

[north thicket]

How is fury so average is just annoying 😦

[scarlet barn]

Perhaps

[fickle forge]

It has been an okay time to heal higher mmr shuffles as well

[north thicket]

WTF is this BT heal when one rarely casts BT and also nerfed in pvp

[worldly oriole]

just unlocked dk on classic

[fickle forge]

Also your guild doesn't annoy me

But your guild leader does

[scarlet barn]

Fair

[fickle forge]

Come back to play 3s though?

[north thicket]

Karanze, what would be the most optimal Fury build that may actually do sth

[verbal tangle]

N > Arms

[fickle forge]

N > Arms

I'd just run slayer and do what fury did pre-nerf

[north thicket]

I already got 1 Arms, trying to make Fury work but it's looking shit

[fickle forge]

Not like fury doesn't do dam, it's still crushing

You just die

[verbal tangle]

Because it is

[fickle forge]

And your MS is shit now

[rancid granite]

is there an echo in here

[verbal tangle]

I might fuck around with a meme build that spams BS and therefore BTs

But yeah it's kinda scuffed

[north thicket]

Yeah, main annoyance seems to be it feels not tanky at all (prob survivability on par with MM)

And MS... pressure not enough

[verbal tangle]

You can build for survivability

You just do no damage afterward

[north thicket]

what I run right now

(experimenting without Unhunged, dont flame)

[rancid granite]

the only real meme build is go full crit/mast demolish, or normal build

[verbal tangle]

Bladestorm + Anger Management is still very good for Bloodthirst (aka healing)

[verbal tangle]

Run the other one you fucking moron

[fickle forge]

I will flame, because slayer hinges on big Bladestorm

[north thicket]

:)))

[verbal tangle]

Unhinged is dogshit

[fickle forge]

Yo guys I'm running mountain thane, I'm trying without thunder clap though

[north thicket]

Slayer doesn't enhance BT dmg

unlike Thane

[fickle forge]

It's very scuffed to play small Bladestorm when you're slayer

[north thicket]

I agree but I also run Brutal finish with Storm of Steel

Unsure if these baby Bloodthirsts that Unhinged does are actually worth a lot nowadays

for SLayer that is

Thane I run with Unhinged always

[fickle forge]

They are

That's backwards bro

Slayer is about Bladestorm

Thane doesn't care

[north thicket]

I agree what you are saying but with Storm of Steel you will get 2x Overwhelming Blades

[rancid granite]

not even zercher would fuck with that meme build

[north thicket]

Like Overwhelming buff back to back 20sec to 20sec

[fickle forge]

That's scuffed bro

You're trading a minor uptime benefit on a small debuff, for way less damage

[north thicket]

Yes, minor uptime buff + additional cc break

But you are right though, something feels off

I somehow thought the Brutal finish will make up for the lost dmg

Unsure if it's the case, since last time I checked not many ppl play it

[fickle forge]

I mean you're missing +20% dam to Bladestorm

[north thicket]

Yes, that too

What the survivability perk that Buhsac mentioned? How can one be somewhat tanky as fury

Thane somewhat more tankier than Slayer ok

Worth dropping 4pc for more vers?

[fickle forge]

Go all in

You're as tanky as you can be on fury

Only way you can optimize is to ER + Unhinged

[north thicket]

Got it

Wish ER was a 1min cd

[verbal tangle]

Is Unhinged the Bloodthirst one or is that the other one

Because the BT one is mandatory

Turning Bladestorm into a defensive CD is huge

[verbal tangle]

Unhinged, I can't read when my brain is fucking fried

Actually cooked out here

[worldly oriole]

wow

[spice hornet]

What happened to leavin logs?

[worldly oriole]

it was too crude @spice hornet

SkidmarkScotty is a good medium @spice hornet

[spice hornet]

None of this names are hitting bro

[worldly oriole]

smh lol

[copper fox]

Tony wtf

[copper fox]

@spice hornet Ronnie out here on main team losing to Mej and Player self plays

Crazy

[spice hornet]

Lmao

Such awful players buying those

Wonder what site they work for technically

[copper fox]

A lot of those guys are freelance now and sites contact them directly

There’s not a lot of “work for the site” for wow anymore

[spice hornet]

Ah, interesting

Ugly mount no idea why anyone buying it

[sharp meteor]

sites take a cut so its like

idk why people buy the bat tho

is the cr really worth a thousand bucks or whatever

[copper fox]

Absolutely not worth buying this fucking mount

I’d rather ride a gronnling

[spice hornet]

@copper fox Astral Warlord running around on the mythic raid mount next patch?

[copper fox]

Holy shit

Biblical tbh

[urban skiff]

WHAT WHAT WHAT? DID SOMEONE PRESENT A COOL NEW MEME BUILD?

[urban skiff]

I should sell boosts for that mount

[boreal veldt]

at least tag me you coward

[urban skiff]

https://murlok.io/paladin/protection/solo

Are murlokio just purging these people manually from their list?

[boreal veldt]

that thumbnail goes too hard for prot pally

[urban skiff]

Because if so, massive respet from me

[boreal veldt]

good, heck with em

[sharp meteor]

dang thats a lot of wintradin

[urban skiff]

Just finished watching Infernion's video on prot pala wintraders and you're telling me there's a whole group of super fragile people out there who I can troll relentless without any bad feelings what so ever?

AND I get to watch their streams for their reactions?

[urban skiff]

@sharp meteor You said a while ago that a good vengeance DH is scary in pvp. Was that a meme or is there something behind it?

[little junco]

Do we use Slam at all? playing colossus/rend build

[urban skiff]

Watching a slightly older DH guide.
Some interesting highlights:
"DH in a really good spot"
"trouble vs spec with a physical stun."
"Rogue, just any rogue... Warrior is another one. And hunter"
"So yeah, we're fine"

[fierce elm]

If we have nothing else to hit, yes

[jovial torrent]

@urban skiff my multi rank 1 push starts soon

[urban skiff]

lmao

[fierce elm]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF LEARNING HOW TO CONVERT AND CALCULATE THIS SHIT WHEN WE ALL DO IT THROUGH ONLINE TOOLS

[urban skiff]

huh

school tough buddy?

[fierce elm]

LIKE WHEN THE FUCK WOULD I EVER MANUALLY CONVERT KPA TO PSI OR W.E

no BUT WHY AM I BEING TAUGHT THIS LIKE ITS A USEFUL TOOL FOR WORK

[urban skiff]

I have never in my life done that

if I need it done I just write into google "15 KPA to PSI" and be done with it

[fierce elm]

WHEN AM I EVER GOING TO FUCKING CONVERT BINARY TO HEXADECIMALS MANUALLY

LIKE HELLO TEAM

WE HAVE THE TOOLS

[urban skiff]

I think you just need the base understanding so you can tell if your online tool is wrong

[fierce elm]

WE HAVE THE TOOLS WITH US CONSTANTLY

[wheat jay]

Paper and pen?

[urban skiff]

With the rise of LLMs + them beginning to hallucinate i think it's a crucial skill

[fierce elm]

Like this is crazy

why did we spend like 20 minutes on how to convert bar to psi

it makes NO SENSE

[lavish quest]

What is Afro freaking out about this time?

[wheat jay]

Math

[fierce elm]

Like I get the other stuff, but why would I ever need to KNOW how to convert this stuff manually

[wheat jay]

Afro can't math and he's mad at people who can

[fierce elm]

Wdym I cant math brother

[lavish quest]

Afro still in school?

[wheat jay]

Now he's triggered

[fierce elm]

Its the simplest shit out there but whats the point

This is like teaching a wow player how to add the value of their items they are selling manually

BUT THE TRADER TELLS YOU WHAT YOU GET ALREADY

Im boutta lash out

[lavish quest]

Wait, you don't make sure the vendor doesn't cheat you?

[wheat jay]

True

[fierce elm]

Like 20% of this course could have been skipped aslong as you know what the numbers mean

30% of next course can be skipped aslong as you know what the numbers mean

But why do I have to literally memorize formulas that wont be used

[lavish quest]

Because schooling is 40 yrs behind

Have fun!

[fierce elm]

Like its crazy

I ask my teacher and he tells me because the School regulation people say we need to

[wheat jay]

Relax afro

Y r u mad?

[fierce elm]

I just wanna connect fucking cables and do cool shit

but this mofo is out here telling me how to convert bar to psi instead of how to make things go vroom

[wheat jay]

Play some good games and chill

Im a big stellar blade enjoyer now

[wheat jay]

You need proper pressure to vroom better, right?

[fierce elm]

I cant play games because I am not home

[lavish quest]

Knew you were a gooner

If all of the reporting around it is to be believed

[wheat jay]

Yes

[lavish quest]

I finished lords of the fallen and am now picking hades back up

[wheat jay]

I mean, character has good ass and tight suits, thats literally all

[lavish quest]

:)

[wheat jay]

No sex scenes or anything like that

So compared to games like veilguard, where theres everything thrown at you whether you like it or not, its pretty tame

Or even bg3

[lavish quest]

Oh I'm aware, tho I haven't played. It's funny how many freak out about it. Granted with a certain agenda but yeah

[wheat jay]

Real lmao

I liked the "unrealistic body standards" the best

When its literally modeled after a woman from korea

A model, but still real human

There are suits that are mad sexy lmao, but some are normal clothes or more armored suits

[jovial torrent]

i still havent gotten around to the elden ring dlc, wana play stellar blade too

[wheat jay]

Combat is better in stellar 100%

Elden boring

Too slow

[jovial torrent]

ive always kind of played souls games that way, low endurance/vit build just with 2h maxing str

[wheat jay]

Ye but its slow

[jovial torrent]

bloodborne was weird cus ur pretty much forced into dex or mage

[wheat jay]

Dodge, one hit

Dodge one hit

Dodge one hit

[jovial torrent]

ye

[wheat jay]

Dodge one hit

[jovial torrent]

i want a metal gear revengeance sequel sooooo bad

i think alot of the platinum devs got absorbed into square enix or capcom tho

[wheat jay]

Stellar is, do your combo, dodge, do a post dodge special attack, another combo, parry, post parry attack, and so on

[jovial torrent]

played revengeance?

[wheat jay]

No but ive seen it

Its kinda similar, but modern

[jovial torrent]

its super good if u havent watched a full playthrough

[lavish quest]

Well... unrealistic for the whales

[wheat jay]

Real lmao

[wheat jay]

I have

[jovial torrent]

i like that men get the opposite, they take real men (who cycle steroids) then cg ontop of them even more

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-mgr-dont-fuck-with-this-senator-gif-15929115

[lavish quest]

Stellar blade is on my list. But I'm starting to hit my prime years and thus, I'm the intelligent and sophisticated gamer. Aka I play games when they're a few years old. Bugs fixed, content added, and 70-90% off

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-toast-salute-here's-to-you-heres-to-you-gif-3182433711752800466

[wheat jay]

So stellar

[rancid granite]

have u played sekiro

[wheat jay]

Port is good too, i have mostly like 120fps

[wheat jay]

No, im planning to tho

[lavish quest]

It's a few years old but it just came to pc lol

[rancid granite]

sekiro is like stellar blade and revengeance but way better :)

and still souls universe

[lavish quest]

Aka still full price. I'm ever the economist. Especially when I have a long list to play already

[wheat jay]

Ive encountered one single bug, when I do special forward dodge, once every like 50 i get graphics bug and fps drop to like 20 for 10s or so

[wheat jay]

I got for free sooooooo ye im chilling hard

[jovial torrent]

might be worth picking up black myth wukong now, was a bit buggy on release

[rancid granite]

sekiro > wukong too

[lavish quest]

Who's your sugar mama? Hook a brother up

[wheat jay]

Aatos is fromsoftware fanatic

[lavish quest]

Sekiro was amazing

[wheat jay]

No, mine

[lavish quest]

100%'d that shit

[wheat jay]

Got doom and nighteign too

[jovial torrent]

im hoping this will be good, i loved Z.O.E and it gives me that on crack vibes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz2e0AOXxsA

[wheat jay]

Doom boring

[lavish quest]

I've only played the 2016 doom

Certainly has some issues

[wheat jay]

Dark ages is fun kinda, but very boring and repetitive

[lavish quest]

Bugged the shit out of me opening the map every 0.3 seconds to find some collectable or upgrade

[wheat jay]

Boss fights are small mobs but tankier lol

[jovial torrent]

they just had to fuck up and lose mick gordon

[lavish quest]

Was that the music guy?

[jovial torrent]

ye

[lavish quest]

Cuz of allegations right?

[jovial torrent]

if i remember right they messed him around with the mixing room and just wasting alot of his time

[urban skiff]

m8 if the dicks don't have jiggle physics I don't care

I want unrealistic jiggle physics everywhere

also I can confirm; i am still too stupid to play DH

[wheat jay]

Thing is, jiggle IS realistic

Too much jiggle is annoying lol

[lavish quest]

Don't be too hasty now

[rancid granite]

yeah what a wild take

[wheat jay]

Have you seen vindictus?

[lavish quest]

Brother bear, can't be surveying all your gooning material, I'm at work

[wheat jay]

Thats too much jiggle haha

[wheat jay]

I have yet to send my best stuff tho

[lavish quest]

But also no clue what vindictus is

[wheat jay]

Korean coop single player game, had alpha tests recently

There is also mmo game, but its old

[jovial torrent]

korean mmo's go hard, its such a shame they are poisoned by microtransaction

[wheat jay]

Ye. True

Koreans are also biggest gooners lol

Somehow they create the thirstiest games, but they add 0 sex scenes to them, whereas west creates mostly ugly characters, and throw nudity or sex into games lol

Out of the two imma go for korean design

[jovial torrent]

are you telling me you dont like gronk the ogre woman x bear love scenes

[wheat jay]

Ogre was funny, in the hut

Bear was nasty

Most of bg3 sex scenes were unneeded

Stellar is gooner bait lmao, but there arent any sex scenes

[jovial torrent]

god im getting flashbacks of the manwoman from the new fable trailer

[wheat jay]

It just feels kinda different playing it

[jovial torrent]

or

[wheat jay]

The reason people played bns lmao

[jovial torrent]

aion and blade and soul had such cool concepts/armour sets

[wheat jay]

Every female character in korean games is a model lmao

[jovial torrent]

shame my pc was giga trash, it couldnt play aion when it came out

aion pvp sets

[wheat jay]

Aion2 apparently dogshit

[jovial torrent]

the biggest problem with asian mmo's is they try make ultra realistic environments and u just cant do that in mmo's

[wheat jay]

Ye, people get bored of that

Candy graphics somehow are better

More vibrant

[jovial torrent]

did u play wildstar

[wheat jay]

Like wow, lost ark, gw2 etc

No but ive seen it

[jovial torrent]

they nailed it with environments

[wheat jay]

Graphics looked so pleasant to the eye

[jovial torrent]

if you looked close at the ground in like field areas and stuff u could see it was all hand painted

so there was really minimal foliage to render

wow should modify their dragonflight system a bit and make hoverboards like wildstar had too

u could turn your player house into a big skate park

[lavish quest]

Koreans don't have sex lol

[urban skiff]

look at these Tryhard Terry's lol

Coordinating cc and shit

Is there a bug causing prevokers to play like they have a lagswitch or is it because it's daytime 2s

[fickle forge]

Were you AFK brother?

[urban skiff]

Just massive amounts of cc from them

and a wife who hasn't played at all in 5+ weeks

combined 40 seconds of cc while they were untouchable for cc

[fickle forge]

You're overthinking bro

It's a shadow priest

Just go hit him

[urban skiff]

That's a restoshaman

can't hex anything, can't reach anything

feel free to tell me how I should have gotten close, i need to learn from the best

[wheat jay]

Real lol

[fickle forge]

Hold W

It'll get easier when you find out SP doesn't have Ghost Wolf

[fickle forge]

I hope you give your wife good head later man, she's giga carrying

[wheat jay]

Shes doing God's work lmao

[urban skiff]

Static and root and hex and dispelled ghost wolf?

Oh wait you want me to keep using all my globals on killing totems while the totems already did what they're supposed to do

:/

[wheat jay]

Static, dont be boomer

Root, dispel from healer

Hex, kick

Grounding

Walk to sp

Least mobile class in the game

[fickle forge]

Kill static, break your own root with spirit, kick Hex, just reactivate wolf

[urban skiff]

can't kick hex, there's a grounding totem

[fickle forge]

So shock the grounding and then kick

[wheat jay]

Use your own groundin

Ground the ground

[fickle forge]

Whichever shaman goes for the Hex first tends to get hexed

[wheat jay]

Play dh and backflip hex, and fear, and stun, and child support, and taxes

[fickle forge]

Either way, you aren't being kited by an SP in 2s

[urban skiff]

I'm not gettiing kitied by the SP i'm being kited by the rsham

[fickle forge]

You aren't going to lack uptime into an SP*

[urban skiff]

finally something simple

I definitely did though

[fickle forge]

Unless you're saying you're training the Rsham

[wheat jay]

Kill sp

Play like I do, kill dps always

Most consistent

[urban skiff]

Man we're struggling right now

so much innate communication lost

can't even beat a fury

[lavish quest]

Is this actually a thing?

[wheat jay]

No i meant his shit gets grounded, he can ground their shit kinda

Grounding ground is not a thing lol

Ground is not a reflect, its absorb

Or black hole i guess lol

[lavish quest]

Grounding sucks. Got it

[wheat jay]

Kill grounding, yes

Warr doesnt care tho lol

[urban skiff]

fuck yeah getting back

we've lost to these guys 3 times today but 4th was the lucky one

We even had a mindcontrol induced disconnect midfight for my wife

[urban skiff]

give me back old ground that took everything

[lavish quest]

Gonna try maining pally next patch. Not sure if I will for pvp, but pve I'm gonna try not maining war a shot. For the first time in forever

[lavish quest]

Give me back old reflect that reflected everything

[urban skiff]

preach

[wheat jay]

Dps or tank?

[urban skiff]

you get that if spellreflect goes on the GCD

deal?

[lavish quest]

This game's history could be described as ranged crying, being catered too, and them still crying

[wheat jay]

Kinda ye

[lavish quest]

What if we just had how it was

[urban skiff]

lmao

no

[wheat jay]

I'd say remove precog

[urban skiff]

No gcd defensives take no skiill

[wheat jay]

Cap

Those tske the most

[urban skiff]

give precog a ICD and make kicks last double time if two kicks land within the same cast duration

[wheat jay]

Cuz you gotta use in split second

[wheat jay]

No, remove precog

Remove half of mobility abilities

Remove half of cc abilities

Make cc longer

Remove ms effect from 90% of specs

[lavish quest]

Probably tank. I'd try dps if I could but:

1. I hate DPS wait times/finding groups in LFG. except raiding. Raiding is easier to get in as a DPS.
2. It hurts to not be the tank in M+ cuz other tanks suck

[wheat jay]

Tank dh is somewhat fun in m+

[lavish quest]

I don't mean tank specs, I mean tank players

[wheat jay]

Oh

[lavish quest]

When I dps I just get to witness muthafuckas doing the dumbest shit

[wheat jay]

Lmao real

[lavish quest]

And just think, I should just go back to being the tank

[wheat jay]

I guess my tanking is kinda dumb too

[lavish quest]

So I can be the one doing dumb shit

[wheat jay]

I overpull 24/7

Thats why prot warr is #1 for me

Can go in, live, do dmg

I only need super high hps healer like rdruid

Rdruid that does hps not dps lol

I hate disc priest

They shield, they reduce dmg

But i need high hps lmao

[lavish quest]

It does hurt my soul that my dmg is halved going from pwar to ppala

[urban skiff]

back up to almost 2k mmr, started at 2.1k

nobody got time for kiting mm hunters lol

fuck yeah

new 2s record ever

wife's first 1950 ever

[rancid granite]

damn gg

thats pretty huge lol

[urban skiff]

It's ugly but still progressiing

[fickle forge]

Soon Zercher can snipe Seif

[elfin surge]

[wheat jay]

Battle of titans

[fast basalt]

is the belt used in pvp?

or deactivated/nerfed to shit?

[rancid granite]

aint noone usin it

[fast basalt]

also, if im playing colossus, is bladestorm just a cc immunity'?

it seems to do almost 0 damage for me

[rancid granite]

it stacks demolish too

[fast basalt]

oooh thanks didnt know that

[green wharf]

paladin server

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-gae-pepe-julien-gif-13687553676606303412

[elfin surge]

[rancid granite]

[lavish quest]

We are the paladin server. We are the everything server

We even got furries

[rancid granite]

demo and ms

:chef kiss:

[green wharf]

wow, demo sucks

i was leveling some alts, and though, well, maybe i try colossus with these

fucking cancer gameplay

[rancid granite]

whats so cancer about BIG BONK

[green wharf]

bosses die before you get demo stacks

slow, clunky

and even when you hit a full stack demo

it sucks balls

[rancid granite]

all true

but all worth it when you do some 10mil crit

'this sucks im just gonna go slayer' for a few games followed by 'oh shit 10mil crit colossus rocks' repeat

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/good-doctor-autistic-meltdown-i-am-a-surgeon-breakdown-gif-282677151596807177

[rancid granite]

yes

😂

[elfin surge]

yes

[sharp meteor]

honestly the thing with colo is like

sure u have demo with cc and stuff but like

outside of that just tankier and big mortal strikes + overpowers + bleeds

issue is nuked mobility

[fickle forge]

Colo pumps

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/sword-bonk-kids-fighting-gif-23618917

demolish in slow mo

[green wharf]

its pretty accurate, cause no damage

just looks scary

[rancid granite]

imagine the 1 out of 5 matches the other warrior looked away and got smacked in the head for big dam

[green wharf]

"oh no the warrior is going to demolish"

walk away
use a defensive

[lavish quest]

That's wasting a defensive

[rancid granite]

-use demo to bait defensive
-strategy

[lavish quest]

Just wait till the learn walking 5 ft away is an op defensive. No cd

[sharp meteor]

Stunned.

Also forcing defensive good.

[green wharf]

yeh, walking away do the trick

[elfin surge]

a lot of yapping in here today

[rancid granite]

what's mud crying about now

[green wharf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/891456843774312449.gif?size=80

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-eat-eating-food-monster-h-reginald-gif-2362901127389079325

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/disgusted-cat-concerned-cat-annoyed-annoyed-face-ugh-cat-gif-3889081756430967663

[fickle forge]

Rerollers as soon as they have to expend 5 IQ on landing an ability instead of it all being auto proc passives

[lavish quest]

Where the egirl account you normally yap on huh?

[elfin surge]

I'm back home noob

[lavish quest]

I figured as much, but I still gotta mess with ya

But the lad finally got laid huh? Good shit.

[elfin surge]

LOL

slayin

[lavish quest]

Slayer main confirmed!?!

[copper fox]

Lmfao

[sharp meteor]

Tfw no slayer prot

[boreal veldt]

which is a shame since new doom dark ages game is literally a prot slayer

[rancid granite]

who what

oh that makes sense

the new doom was looking so cool til they tookout the whole reload mechanic 😔

[boreal veldt]

it's pretty mid, even the music didn't hit

[rancid granite]

mmmm the music is the one thing that definitely hit

but it's wild the emphasis on reloading and ammo

[spice hornet]

anyone notice merciless glad 2h has super beefed up particle effects for some reason?

[jovial torrent]

is it like that when mogged or just a dressign room thing, i noticed the big glowy sword thats orange from dragonflight had a white box texture on it for a while but i think they fixed that, maybe broke somethen when fixing those

seems to be just a dressing room thing

[spice hornet]

lame

[jovial torrent]

its not too bad tho

[spice hornet]

that does look more than normal

[boreal veldt]

i love seeing it in wow armory/murlok, just a big ol yellow star

[jovial torrent]

i dont have one but i think this colour or the red one had a big white rectangle coming out of the gem coverin most of the wep

i feel like sinful flame isnt as dark anymore suddenly

yeh 100% somthing has been screwed up with sinful

nowhere near as dark as it was, before u could barely just see the outline of the weps glow and couldnt see the details on the handle

[lavish quest]

Think it was the yellowish one

[jovial torrent]

saw ppl with it so many times in dorn , wasnt sure if it was just a problem on my end

[sand sundial]

At this point

Using old transmogs doesn't feel great

[sharp meteor]

depends on the mog

some still look good

[sand sundial]

With how detailed the newer stuff is

Usually yeah

[sharp meteor]

its rly more just like not having something clash

if u use new piece with old piece

gonna look sus

also newer races in old sets look bad

[rancid granite]

depends on the race*

[sand sundial]

I wish they fixed how most of the weapons are held

[rancid granite]

my b.elf warrior is looking so damn legit in s1 warrior gear lol

[sharp meteor]

belf looks awful in everythin

[sand sundial]

A lot of the maces are unusable

[jovial torrent]

the way maces and polearms are held is a crime, also the enchants beign the wrong way

the enchant coming from the top and down towards the hilt

[sand sundial]

The newest mace from the last boss is actually held right this time

But the special mace from the 2nd last is goofed as usual

[jovial torrent]

kind of a poop mace, i wish the 1h axe had a 2h version

[sand sundial]

After this goofy ass season

I like everything else

[jovial torrent]

that banshee set thats coming out on the tradepost looks sick