lmao
#pvp
wheat jay
bright kraken
NGL I forgot concussive shot is a button
wheat jay
what concussive 
lavish quest
I wouldn't even do that
bright kraken
I don't have it talented for some reason, I learnt a few days ago
fierce elm
alt f4
wheat jay
/afk
bright kraken
2nd sef?
Both the second lineup but also I see a lot of monks press SEF immediately after the first ends
wheat jay
its not 3x damage xD
bright kraken
sef is 20% more dmg only
Avatar 😭
wheat jay
ye
sef increases generation of chi
to do more dmg
and lowers cd of big hitters
so
you
kite
or wall
or hide
root works on clones
scatter FoF
bright kraken
Why did they remove serenity
bright kraken
Oh also did you see the new survival tier set next patch
wheat jay
slicing winds is big dmg, you can feign that most often
wheat jay
Oh also did you see the new survival tier set next patch
nop
i saw dh getting like 50% more dmg in meta
lavish quest
Why did they remove serenity
Can't g ang b ang with serenity
bright kraken
nop
Beasts give random stat proc and do more damage. 25% chance for nuke
Lunar Storm makes 2 bombs do 60% increased damage after it ends and gives sentinel stacks. Sentinel does more damage.
I've heard the pack leader one is really strong
bright kraken
I'm lowkey curious if there's a shit niche comp like SV/DK
bright kraken
i saw dh getting like 50% more dmg in meta <:keks:936231610850897992>
Uninstalling rq
wheat jay
I'm lowkey curious if there's a shit niche comp like SV/DK
not even niche
its a decent comp lol
at least was
bright kraken
not even niche
Idk the word
wheat jay
niche is the word
bright kraken
its a decent comp lol
Oh but I meant something like sentinel SV and FDK
TBF fdk would be better with literally any other spec huh
wheat jay
there's one guy playing fistweaver/deva/survi
for like 5 patches now
hiddenstalke
#2 survi
bright kraken
there's one guy playing fistweaver/deva/survi
Yeah but that's a decent comp
Wtf is SV/FDK
wheat jay
sv/fdk
bright kraken
Sentinel doesn't even beat out PL in sustained ST 😭
Well TBF sentinel is better for burst
Technically
I doubt that CA+Lunar Storm+boosted bomb+Flank/FOTE would really make a dent
bright kraken
Homo odyssey
wheat jay
and i had 0 time to even try it lol
fickle forge
Win to not lose points
fierce elm
About to buy my shit and lock in tonight
Buy my shit
urban skiff
You decline every time i try to give you gold
fierce elm
Oh I meant irl
I got stuff for sale
I gotta sell my two guitars to get another guitar but the music store aint calling back
urban skiff
Show your zerchers are at least there
My zerchers?
fickle forge
My zerchers?
You lose all lifts when you lock in BM
urban skiff
Am I wrong in assuming surfvival will be easier than sub and enh?
Speculation that we get shaman tanks but they'll be void based.
cosmic field
to me that seems harder than sub rogue idk. Also icy veins so probably not completely correct
urban skiff
to me that seems harder than sub rogue idk. Also icy veins so probably not compl...
who's the survival writer for icyveins? I know the BM writer
Actually survival and BM guides are both written by the same guy so
copper fox
to me that seems harder than sub rogue idk. Also icy veins so probably not compl...
Yea but there’s spells there that you don’t need to include for dps
urban skiff
I've already watched them
copper fox
Otherwise you gotta add a ton of spells for rogue too if it’s not just dps
wheat jay
Good
urban skiff
or skimmed at least
wheat jay
Go play
urban skiff
Bicmex guide is actually what inspired me to go into detail about how skills actually function
chilly pivot
Coloss or slayer in 3s as ret war comp? Feels like more r1 players go for coloss build more games overall ?
fickle forge
to me that seems harder than sub rogue idk. Also icy veins so probably not compl...
Who's the writer?
urban skiff
Who's the writer?
SLO
urban skiff
You lose all lifts when you lock in BM
Here's my counterstrike totem dealing 11m damage into a 4x rank1 warrior btw
fickle forge
As long as it's not written by Mysticall
fickle forge
Here's my counterstrike totem dealing 11m damage into a 4x rank1 warrior btw
I was healing 2.2k yd, and Psyfiend went untouched for 6 rounds
Shuffle has deteriorated people
urban skiff
Shuffle has deteriorated people
sorry that's the wrong tab
feels like he's famous
urban skiff
Italian brainrot makes me want to burn down the house
fickle forge
How is crocodildo not force changed
cosmic field
its a real animal
urban skiff
no reports
urban skiff
I get my rating back if I report his account and he gets banned right?
wheat jay
but he's shadowlands s2 gladiator so he can't be good lol
Oi, so am I
urban skiff
???
wheat jay
And im amazing
sand sundial
I get my rating back if I report his account and he gets banned right?
Yes
urban skiff
Oi, so am I
I couldn't even get that so
fickle forge
I used to think Artji was pretty boosted
urban skiff
season rigged against me
fickle forge
But you see a new side of the world when you heal shuffles
wheat jay
Funny how we pushed with kargish for one glad, but almost every season we played at glad mmr for fun lmao
They dont make those glads like they used to i guess
urban skiff
But you see a new side of the world when you heal shuffles
mw is on my list, mine is 1680ish atm
but i'm still wearing half green straight from AH, not even honor gear so that's a good reason why
fickle forge
I mean Artji will at least excuse himself by saying he was spamming turtle
2.3k cr hunters complain about no BoP when I am in trap and they got turtle
urban skiff
2.3k cr hunters complain about no BoP when I am in trap and they got turtle
this is why I can't track if healer is in cc
If I can't fact check that they were indeed in cc I iwon't feel bad when I spam "HEALLL????"
wheat jay
I mean Artji will at least excuse himself by saying he was spamming turtle
Im elite on 3 classes too 
fickle forge
Or like mages that hit block when my CC has 0.00001 sec left and I come out to lay
Like I don't get people
cosmic field
perspective I guess, without comms something that seems obvious might not be
fickle forge
Im elite on 3 classes too <:okayge:917646812519739433>
Let's just open a cartel instead, we'll start boosting Goldshire e-girls for money
wheat jay
Oh i play worse with comms
fickle forge
It's how @elfin surge met his wife
wheat jay
Let's just open a cartel instead, we'll start boosting Goldshire e-girls for mon...
You go sham, i go whatever is broken meta
We split hoes 50/50
fickle forge
Deal brother
fickle forge
perspective I guess, without comms something that seems obvious might not be
I mean use 3 brain cells right
Your healer in trap, no trinket and they pop CDs
fickle forge
Should you trade a defensive?
fickle forge
https://tenor.com/view/the-tren-twins-gif-27603154
urban skiff
Should you trade a defensive?
trade is for the weak. Make demands and they will submit
fickle forge
Ye, the game demanded 20 of your cr for your gameplay
cosmic field
im playing sin rogue atm so hunters are still just gone... so satisfying watching them bleed through turtle
urban skiff
On survi you either use defensives or you're gone
if I can live on enh without defensives I can do it on survival!
cosmic field
save defensives for dampening right
urban skiff
85% damp or just quit
wheat jay
85% damp or just quit
Just quit survi then xD
urban skiff
Just quit survi then xD
I don't know the meaning of that word
urban skiff
ASk anyone, I never stop
urban skiff
I only continue in another direction
cosmic field
aha classic
urban skiff
Just quit survi then xD
I made a hunter do this by the way
turned my 6-0 into a 5-1, where I almost won 2v3
chilly pivot
did u guys play Coloss or slayer hero talents?
lavish quest
Neither
chilly pivot
Play prot Shady
haha xd
copper fox
Tf you laughing at
chilly pivot
im to good for prot ngl
fierce elm
Yeah you are
lavish quest
Do you even know how to prot?
fierce elm
go play healer
lavish quest
You always asking about rotations
fierce elm
Because he is always trolling and baiting lmao
chilly pivot
You always asking about rotations
but i cant do it anymore, or Afro kill me here, so better stick to some rotation i know
fierce elm
He keeps masterbaiting me
chilly pivot
u guys helpt me from first time playing retail to hit 2500, get legend and killing everything in my way, how can it be a troll
lavish quest
Can't wait to find someone to master bait me
chilly pivot
now i asking for help to reach gladiator in 3s, its not troll bro
chilly pivot
u alrdy teach me slayer, now u need to teach me coloss, feels like the build is better
you only need to answer my stupid questions and i do it by my self
chilly pivot
to be serious, what about coloss build, its better overall?
robust hearth
Waiting g 40 mins for queues is asssssssss
They turning outlaw rogue into a gunslinger with new killing spree animation
urban skiff
They turning outlaw rogue into a gunslinger with new killing spree animation
Watch the animation in slow motion. Outlaw more like floaty guns and jank
rancid granite
would be cool if killing spree was end talent and big damn like demolish but its gonna be middle of the tree meh ability
fierce elm
to be serious, what about coloss build, its better overall?
either is fine
rancid granite
so meh
robust hearth
chilly pivot
either is fine
so boring answer..
robust hearth
would be cool if killing spree was end talent and big damn like demolish but its...
Killing spree now is already a combo spender
rancid granite
its cool but it wont be demolish
robust hearth
It's tempting been asking for a gunslinger class/spex for a while now but so is void demon hunter
Void demon hunter with a scythe
fierce elm
so boring answer..
Its the answer
rancid granite
having 2 options sounds less boring than having 1
fickle forge
Dead game
copper fox
Everyone make sure to do your midsummer achievements
lavish quest
They add something new to it?
lavish quest
Well I farmed up everything off the vendor as of a few years back. I haven't checked to see if there's new stuff yet or not
worldly oriole
midsummer temp is high irl
rancid granite
it's all about the greedy emissary event in a week anyway
lavish quest
Been decent here. Turned ac on finally last week
fickle forge
We need to delete shuffle and blitz
jovial torrent
delete 3v3 
jovial torrent
pretty much, i actually havent played a single 3's game this expac
sharp meteor
and glad is like 1k + asbur an hes friend et al
jovial torrent
if the mount was really cool i might have, but im sure after a few hours in lfg i would have lost it
sharp meteor
the bat is so rancid
jovial torrent
season 2 should have given recolours of the rick reverb mount or somthing for 3v3 and shuffle, and season 1 whatever the big bug mount was called
sharp meteor
friend wanted to q some retwarr and we had no healers on
so sat in lfg for like
25 mins
not a single healer app
jovial torrent
im still tilted from WoD lfg where i spent like 2 hours in the tool to play like 4 games have someone rage quit and be back in the tool
sharp meteor
ya i remember alliance bfa was like
tryna get a few games on 2300 alt or som
and grabbing a literal 1800 healer
after an hour
probs just wouldnt 3s if i didnt know like a dozen healers
jovial torrent
i really need to get around to leveling a resto druid for mop arena
got 2 ppl i know who will play dk and disc priest so will try war with them but they are more m+ players than pvp'ers
worldly oriole
we need legion remix
sharp meteor
not really lol
only fell off in eternal cos rehashed + wotlk deflation
s1-3 shadowlands went lil crazy
worldly oriole
slands pve grind was just too cray
lavish quest
Well by the pvp norm, sure maybe it was poppin (tho part was them incentiving pvers to do it) but in general... rough
Pvp been small forever
worldly oriole
i got the s1 mount early af
then quit cuz our healer quit
and we shoulda got r1 s4 bfa but we barely played smh
finding teammates is just a project
sharp meteor
Well by the pvp norm, sure maybe it was poppin (tho part was them incentiving pv...
pve was sinful
unchained went the most crazy
cosmic also super crazy
eternal deadge cos no new rewards and wotlk
all the dragonflight seasons fairly standard
bfa was kind of deadge in the middle tho esp on alli
urban skiff
Void demon hunter with a scythe
Hard pass unless they also fix how janky polearm melee attacks look
fickle forge
dmg is done no going back
It's giga damage
Got an assassa rogue who would do a go and then hige pillar for 30 sec
Got him again when I Q'd blitz, turns out he was playing it like he was ninja capping a base
sharp meteor
ya and that wasnt even the craziest season
so when people say arena was dead before shuff its like aight when
cos it wasnt the two years prior
sharp meteor
if u made a venn diagram of people who complained about 3s queues and people who'd get a team and leave after the first loss u would have a circle
also everybody takes their exp and adds 500 and wont play with anybody lower
so nobody ends up playing
lavish quest
if u made a venn diagram of people who complained about 3s queues and people who...
That's the majority of people tho... so that circle is still very relevant?
sharp meteor
ya everybody got their corruptd or unchained glad by accident because it was top 15k players
lavish quest
30 people had teams so clearly 3s was popping, isn't the best argument
sharp meteor
now they wont play again
lavish quest
I mean overall, people had a hard time with playing 3s, for long long before shuffle.
I'm just really saying deleting the solo queue modes isn't the magic solution
If anything that's an execution to pvp
sharp meteor
ye no going back
i just think shuff further damaged pvp cos like
why meet people or setup queues
if u play shuffle for few hours for elite sets
cos people with btags left affected than those who lfgin
copper fox
Shuffle definitely damaged pvp
sharp meteor
also the waiting for inflation meta kind of stinks
healer is like yo q im like sure and he says he asked 8 people and they all keyin or chillin or shufflin
urban skiff
also everybody takes their exp and adds 500 and wont play with anybody lower
Tbh i have never ever written exp or demanded exp.
Results exactly as expected though so mileage may vary
sharp meteor
lavish quest
Hot take, solo queue actually improved pvp, because more people can actually get into it now
sharp meteor
Tbh i have never ever written exp or demanded exp.
Results exactly as expected...
in general it good to play with similar rated people
for a range of reasons
but cos everybody has some 2800 exp from shuff or inflated seas
warps perceptions
lavish quest
Yeah, people just don't like it's not uber sweat only for the real players coordination 3s
wheat jay
kennie enjoying getting boosted 👍
lavish quest
But clearly that wasn't workin
sharp meteor
and people dont like being glad one seas and spam losing 1900 the next
wheat jay
xd
sharp meteor
oh well rip 2s and 3s now everybody sits 50 minute queues to get their free elite achi
urban skiff
I mean overall, people had a hard time with playing 3s, for long long before shu...
Long term solution would be to raise shuffle participation massive via rewards and ratings incentives. Attainable and attractive rewards
And then pull a fast one and merge 3s and shuffle somehow into a new game mode where players who are slightly above average can hit all rewards.
sharp meteor
shuff participation already high healers just have no reason to participate in reject queue
anybody who cares gets 2400 insta for free so like
why would u willingly heal these things
for free
urban skiff
in general it good to play with similar rated people
If i dont know who i'm playing with, i'll always assume any loss is my mistake and look for what i should have done to win.
sharp meteor
i mean regardless of who you queue with lookin at how you can tidy up your play always the best thing
worldly oriole
I honestly think mike israetel is the best fitness coach
sharp meteor
both for self improvement and social stuff
ive queued with people i could've gotten to glad and if they're flaming me or my friend perma its like huh
i could just
q with somebody else
worldly oriole
yeah i had a sick session with ele dh rdruid
urban skiff
A while ago i realized i've been focused on what i should have done to nor lose, and i swapped to looking at what i should have done to win.
worldly oriole
but the ele shit on the healer and the group disbanded lol
cosmic field
imagine making friends in an mmo lol
lavish quest
and people dont like being glad one seas and spam losing 1900 the next
I mean... the mmr system shifting all the time is ass yeah. Part of issue
urban skiff
Idk, sounds like it's the same when i sound it out eight
sharp meteor
ya imagine talkin to people in an mmo instead of trying to play wow like league
sharp meteor
I mean... the mmr system shifting all the time is ass yeah. Part of issue
kind of funny thing u think about it cos like
df glad was top 3000 or so
but it'd be like double or triple that
if everybody who shuffled spam queued 3s
like they did in sl
sharp meteor
ya thats omst people i think myself included
r1 healer friend is like yo imma try ret lets lfg a healer
almost half hour with no healer
and our shuff qs popped
granted it was like late afternoon when ot a lot of people on but also weekend so
lfg just 3 boost adverts
lavish quest
Now we thinkin
frank knoll
I honestly think mike israetel is the best fitness coach
Bro 🤣🤣🤣
worldly oriole
yeah i kno a boomie to que with but suppoosedly we need a pres evoker
gl finding one
frank knoll
I was just watching the Mike Israetel grocery haul
I swear that guy makes a gay joke every ten secs
frank knoll
i just think shuff further damaged pvp cos like
I don’t know why we couldnt just get solo queue option for 2s and 3s instead of a whole new game mode
lavish quest
I don’t know why we couldnt just get solo queue option for 2s and 3s instead of ...
Because of the issues with that... they designed around it
Shuffle was the result
rancid granite
where the pve nerds at; how we getting that new sick void dragon mount next season
sharp meteor
just do the raid
wheat jay
rancid granite
just do the raid
?_? just basic LFR and free mount?
robust hearth
played wow for over 20 years, I've never ever went after any of the holiday outfits and toys or achievements lol
robust hearth
Hard pass unless they also fix how janky polearm melee attacks look
what you mean, imagine the DH animations but with a scythe? fel blade with scythe
urban skiff
what you mean, imagine the DH animations but with a scythe? fel blade with scyth...
It's gonna be another fistweaver healer lol
robust hearth
its a 2h wielding DH wat?
lavish quest
?_? just basic LFR and free mount?
Probably rare drop
Maybe glory achieve
Think the voidwing but with armor this time will be aotc
rancid granite
as long as its LFR np
fierce elm
as long as its LFR np
Which one do you mean
there is one curve and one mythic mount
and both are voidy things
urban skiff
its a 2h wielding DH wat?
and you'll still be punching people to heal but the 2h will be occasionally visible but never actually used as anything more than a stat stick
calling it now
rancid granite
this is the curve mount
gross
fierce elm
ngl
sharp meteor
mythic mount is pretty c:
rancid granite
how do you normally get mythic mounts???
sharp meteor
yep everybody and their mom rerolls back to dh
fierce elm
and 1 or 2 people get a mount
sharp meteor
its like 3 people now
sharp meteor
or buy it or wait a few years
rancid granite
its not time gated is it
fierce elm
after that it drops to below 1% again
rancid granite
ic
sharp meteor
drops to 1% on expac launch
er prepatch
so u can go get ansurek thing right now 100%
sharp meteor
sort of like how u can get gally mount next raid
fierce elm
Just become a Mythic CE raider
sharp meteor
they arent even that expensive only like 2m or 5m right now i think
rancid granite
k where's our raiding group ill tank for yall
fierce elm
lmfao
urban skiff
they arent even that expensive only like 2m or 5m right now i think
that's not even hard to do
urban skiff
I did it for all of the game up until sometime in DF
sharp meteor
friend afkd for 4 months
came back to pvp yesterday
we queued for a few hours
he full gear
rancid granite
they arent even that expensive only like 2m or 5m right now i think
i have about 450g to my name
2m or 5m is like $500 in wow tokens
sharp meteor
fierce elm
Yeah 'wow tokens'
copper fox
ASTRAL WARLORD
urban skiff
How much to carry me to astral warlord?
fierce elm
Just do it on your own brother
urban skiff
i just want company
fierce elm
YOUR WIFE?
urban skiff
The time where we can both play together is better spent having oceans of fun in 2s
spice hornet
does report advertisement in lfg not even do anythign anymore? i keep seeing the same names the next day after report
urban skiff
of course it doesn't do anything
fickle forge
@urban skiff
urban skiff
uh
urban skiff
I keep meaning to use elemental blast but I also keep forgetting to spec into it
frank knoll
Because of the issues with that... they designed around it
What issues? Other games do it just fine
fierce elm
Holy fuck imagine how handicapped you would be as 2 people queueing 3s
into a full 3s team
2s is probs fine
lavish quest
What issues? Other games do it just fine
Blizz obviously wanted to have people not complain about queuing into X comp and/or getting Y comp
sharp meteor
Holy fuck *imagine* how handicapped you would be as 2 people queueing 3s
I did that for a good chunk of df
it's really not that big of a deal
lavish quest
Besides, you'd still have a lack of heals
fierce elm
Thats crazy, you did that in a mode that doesn't exist
holy
Tell me how you did it
that involved no lfg, no checking people, no inviting people
lmao
lavish quest
So wouldn't fix anything over ss
sharp meteor
flex would be fine just have the non premades be marginally higher mmr
lavish quest
Ss biggest issue is people don't wanna heal
sharp meteor
ya imagine healing those rejects for free
people who can't get a healer to consent to playing with them
fierce elm
Its crazy how the gamemode has one problem
frank knoll
Blizz obviously wanted to have people not complain about queuing into X comp and...
Just be warrior and ur fine
Can play with anything
sharp meteor
idk how anybody heals shuff if they arent gettin a title for it
fierce elm
idk how anybody heals shuff if they arent gettin a title for it
but Kennie they get conquest tokens!!!!
lavish quest
people who can't get a healer to consent to playing with them
What if all the healers that consent to play with me are egirls from m+?
lavish quest
Just be warrior and ur fine
Can play with anything
Doesn't really engage the point
frank knoll
There’s zero reason to heal in shuffle
I don’t know why anyone does it
sharp meteor
bored ig
fierce elm
So why would they ever want to duo-queue 3s into your reject ass when they can pick up w.e damage dealer from LFG
sharp meteor
treat it like a skirmish
fierce elm
Or why would they ever want to solo queue 3s as a healer
frank knoll
There was supposed to be like a title and some extra rewards but never made it live
fierce elm
So we are back to the original problem lmao
urban skiff
treat it like a skirmish
skirmish is like a situationship
shuffle is the abusive relationship
urban skiff
3s is for people in open relationships who swears they know what they're getting into but eventually someone gets their feelings hurt
sharp meteor
wish 2s had real rewards
fierce elm
Imagine you are a healer and a DPS wanting to play 3s. Either you can get a rando 3rd person that you can't check and can't decide what spec they are playing, or, you can pick that player from LFG within an instant.
urban skiff
wish 2s had real rewards
me too
fierce elm
Its a pretty clear choice
Just give out random recolors of the glad mount already to each different bracket who gives a shit anymore
sharp meteor
man so mans time i just wanna q blood with warr or ww in 3s and can never find somebody
urban skiff
Imagine you are a healer and a DPS wanting to play 3s. Either you can get a rand...
I have an easy solution for that and you'll absolutely hate it
fierce elm
Netiher does 2s then lmao
sharp meteor
nah 2s owns
copper fox
@urban skiff I can’t carry you to ASTRAL WARLORD because I’ll be carrying @spice hornet
fierce elm
In what world
sharp meteor
and isnt asocial reject bracket like shuff
urban skiff
Netiher does 2s then lmao
you can only queue with people from LFG who are worse rating than you and the rando 3rd can only be better rating than you.
copper fox
By 2s do you mean BM/MW bracket
fierce elm
lmfao
sharp meteor
buff 2s and 3s gut shuff
fierce elm
Its not about the RATING
urban skiff
Its not about the RATING
MMr, whatever
fierce elm
Its about the fact that you get to pick your teammate
sharp meteor
shuff giving any of the generic rewards legit the worst decision they ever made
its like why would u mythic raid when a world quest gives the same gear
fierce elm
Gut Shuff and blitz, buff 3s
urban skiff
You'll rather pick an incompetent ideal spec than a competent potentially bad fit?
fierce elm
I would rather get to pick my poison than have it being forced on me yeah
sharp meteor
flex queue rly would be fine like i said just buff mmr of solos a bit
like if i duo or trio at 2100 we queue into 2300 solos
urban skiff
I would rather get to pick my poison than have it being forced on me yeah
I'd rather play only with surprises and have to adapt
urban skiff
<@205395474784583681> I can’t carry you to ASTRAL WARLORD because I’ll be carryi...
when you're ready to go from situationships with boys, there's a daddy waiting patiently for you
sharp meteor
lfged a guy in df who had 1000 games at 2300 shuff and im like no and my monk goes "nono i can fix him"
fierce elm
and railroad people into playing Healer because the rewards are so dank
fierce elm
but they won't because it doesn't matter lmao
sharp meteor
and we spam queued to glad with him
fierce elm
Its also the fact that 3s is so fucking slow in terms of rating gain
sharp meteor
lfging and remaking every 3 games is what kills it i think
spend 5 hours in finder 40 mins playin
fierce elm
That and the rewards are just low
rancid granite
By 2s do you mean BM/MW bracket
does it get that meta or is it just all for the top end / r1's
sharp meteor
2s has reasonable diversity when its played but like
right now its the 4fun bracket
so either q into real people bored playing their specs
rancid granite
having a blast with it
sharp meteor
or a 2k bm hunter rdruid/mw
in shadowlands it was like
coinflip 2k bm hunter who backpeddles
or get head smashed in by magnus
fierce elm
lmao
lavish quest
and nah shuff doesnt deserve a mount
3s doesn't deserve one then
sharp meteor
course it do
fierce elm
Remove all brackets
sharp meteor
shuff is asocial low effort timesink mode
sharp meteor
premade aspect big part
similar to keys raids
solo modes always gotta give worse stuff
they neglected this and it destroys social fabric of game
violet fossil
the 10 people that play 3s don’t wanna give u a mount
fierce elm
LFG m+ to the 3k mount without issue lmao
lavish quest
To serve people gatekeeping "we're sophisticated because we play the ded mode"
sharp meteor
fierce elm
Don't even have to be social
sharp meteor
feelin like the boomer here trying to say it's good to have incentives to group up and meet people
violet fossil
social is dead
sharp meteor
no it aint
violet fossil
:<
sharp meteor
just discouraged for a lot of people
fierce elm
I mean, the only aspect of that that remains is what, 3s and Mythic raiding?
and like high end m+
violet fossil
can’t even say hello to someone without getting reported
sharp meteor
like it sounds boomer but i rly think it makes the game worse for mostpeople
to not have to do anything
fierce elm
It does sound boomer
lavish quest
Not to mention how dumb it is from logic standpoint, that pretty much every pvp reward you can get wherever you want. But this one reward is specific to one mode of pvp because "oh, we're so much better than the others"
sharp meteor
cos im outside the cycle
i know enough people to never lfg
and i think the game is 10x more fun to sort of
fierce elm
Personally, give them a different color and it still has an incentive
sharp meteor
not languish in lfg
lavish quest
feelin like the boomer here trying to say it's good to have incentives to group ...
Obviously it doesn't incentive people to do that
Mode is still ded
People ain't gonna do it
sharp meteor
did u miss everythin i said
fierce elm
the issue is that the world doesn't work that way anymore
sharp meteor
im sayin game more fun with regulars/friends and making solo give all the rewards aside from glad for free
removes the incentive for people to group
w/e idc doesnt affect me
fierce elm
Not if its a different reward
sharp meteor
i just think its bad for the game
fierce elm
lmao
lavish quest
"For free"
sharp meteor
here we go
fierce elm
I think we have to realize that 3s is a dying gamemode that isn't going to bounce back aslong as SS and Blitz exists
Blitz has taken a lot away from the other brackets along with SS
rancid granite
ppl be forgetting how to make friends
sharp meteor
add a mount to 2s tomorrow and shuffle dies instantly overnight
violet fossil
ah ah toes
fierce elm
Yeah no
fierce elm
Yeah no lmao
sharp meteor
anyways
fierce elm
Because its gonna have the same issue as 3s does, insanely slow grind, 2s as a bracket isn't balanced, having to face multi-glad multi r1s at like 2.2 mmr lmao
And we rinse and repeat
sharp meteor
nah more people playin props it up
sort of like how shuffle is 10x less popular when people are fighting for their life at 2100 rather than 2500
as we saw in verdant
robust hearth
add a mount to 2s tomorrow and shuffle dies instantly overnight
Just gonna be rogue+mage dominating and bullying the brackets 😂
lavish quest
If you want a mode to play with lfg and friends, go do m+
sharp meteor
add 500 free mmr and people have fun again simple as
fierce elm
I mean add 500 free mmr in 3s and we can solve that too lmao
sharp meteor
if shufflers played 3s it'd go up by 300-500 mmr actually ya
fierce elm
but they aint gonna do that
sharp meteor
we'd be backin sl where glad is top 10k
robust hearth
I mean add 500 free mmr in 3s and we can solve that too lmao
Just fucking bring fives back
sharp meteor
ya crabs in the bucket
fierce elm
(The game should have never left % based rewards)
sharp meteor
at least all the shufflers made glad mounts rare again which is cool
lavish quest
if shufflers played 3s it'd go up by 300-500 mmr actually ya
If shufflers didn't have shuffle they just wouldn't queue
robust hearth
Ironically 5v5s was more popular towards the casual crowd
lavish quest
So there is no, in they played 3s
sharp meteor
shadowlands glad bein like top 10k was lame
fierce elm
It should just be % based
sharp meteor
that wouldnt rly change much
robust hearth
Tht would make ppl even less likely to get glad
robust hearth
Very small pvp community
lavish quest
Who cares I'd the mount was top 10k?
robust hearth
Tf u think. 01% of the current pvp community looks like?
fierce elm
I mean 2440 rating right now in 3s is top 996
robust hearth
There would just be one gladiator
fierce elm
because thats how far back I can see on the website
robust hearth
Now if we were back i. The golden age
Where wow had over 10million players online 24/7 and pvp was still thriving
Then it make sense
fierce elm
Alright yeah thats fair enough
lavish quest
Like... where is the actual logic?
thinks glad should be 3s only
if all of ss went to 3s, glad would be too ez
make glad more rare
then less people queue anyways because if people can't feel like they can get there, they just gonna not bother
fierce elm
THE DAYS OF INTERACTING IS OVER
lavish quest
Exactly
fierce elm
lmao
lavish quest
Not to mention it was over before shuffle
sharp meteor
Kind of wasnt though
fierce elm
Yeah idk about that chief
sharp meteor
the only bad season was eternal cos wotlk
lavish quest
The numbers certainly say it was
fierce elm
SL was very populated the seasons I played
lmao
You weren't facing the same people constantly, it wasn't just multi-glad multi r1 people at 2.2
You were facing people that were actually, true 2.2 people.
fierce elm
the fuck does that even mean
lavish quest
That they were still low lol
Just in comparison to all the other low, it was better I guess?
fierce elm
Yeah, no shit its a subsection of a game that is pretty tiny
lmfao
like whatchu mean
fierce elm
But you were still queueing constantly, weren't playing the same people, LFG was always populated
robust hearth
the only bad season was eternal cos wotlk
Ya I skipped to play WOTLK
lavish quest
fierce elm
You can't do much about a gamemode that is just not popular with the average person
sharp meteor
just stinks for anybody tryna 3s
lavish quest
So you're disagreeing with my point by agreeing with my point?
sharp meteor
its like sry bro im shufflin
fierce elm
But the actual playerbase of PvP was pretty good
No your point is that the game subsection is tiny from the start
But thats just a disingenous argument
lavish quest
???
robust hearth
My brain
fierce elm
Eh w.e
lavish quest
Your point is disingenuous because it's too right
fierce elm
its joever
lavish quest
Shit, you right
robust hearth
Bro I'm supposed to be the stupid 1
Tf happened to u these past months
Holy shit
I stopped playing WoW for a while too
Holy shit does wow actually give brain rot
robust hearth
Afro
robust hearth
lavish quest
compact mica
what u noobs yapping about
lavish quest
Wut in the
robust hearth
Im also fried too so like is afro cooked?
lavish quest
Afro been cooked
fierce elm
Alright
fierce elm
Taking this from some weird numbers and approximations
and talking mainly about SL s2 because its the season I personally engaged in the most
SL S2 had ish approx over 4.2k players over 2.4 in 3v3
fierce elm
Based on how tiny the PvP playerbase is, that is a fine number for people to engage in
That is true
compact mica
s1 was more popular
fierce elm
S3 had approx 2550
compact mica
cuz pve players pvped for weapon and shit
do u remember the 2400 weapon all the M+ nerds pvped for it
fierce elm
and s1 had approx 8k
compact mica
or got boosted
violet fossil
SL S2 had *ish* approx over 4.2k players over 2.4 in 3v3
what’s the numbers for df
lavish quest
Based on how *tiny* the PvP playerbase is, that is a *fine* number for people to...
"Based in how tiny the PvP player base is,"
sharp meteor
it was like 3k glads for most seasons in df
shadowlands was like 10k in unchained
sinful was crazy then fell off
sharp meteor
unchained was insane
compact mica
unchained was a fun season but holy fuck did it devalue gladiator to the point of being nothing
lavish quest
Those literally aren't player numbers
fierce elm
Except they are
sharp meteor
dragonflight was decent all througout
fierce elm
Assuming s1
lavish quest
You just said more players who played got glad
lavish quest
Exactly...
fierce elm
alright w.e
Clearly if the gamemode doesn't have 100k concurrent players its a dead gamemode
elfin surge
Solo shuffle will fix wow pvp for sure they said
fierce elm
Got everyone the rewards kek
lavish quest
Is it not common knowledge that pvp has been trending down for a decade at least?
fierce elm
Pretty sure its been longer than that
But you would be surprised how tiny a playerbase can be and still be active
lavish quest
I apparently let the secret out
sharp meteor
thank you savix and stoopz for killin arena and then quitting
compact mica
it wasnt even the way they wanted either
LOL
but yeah it came out and they didnt even play it
sharp meteor
man imagine if it was 1 round
and it'd still be awful
wait 14 mins to see some ret die without bubble
then back in q
compact mica
shouldve redone the lfg system before doing anything with solo queue
i swear solo q in an MMO just isnt a good idea
sharp meteor
ya lfg ancient and awful
need to be able to perma list self and when you play and spec and exp etc
fierce elm
i swear solo q in an MMO just isnt a good idea
Its only a good idea if its for the most entry-level shit that exists
sharp meteor
yo 2100 cr 3s disc lf bm feral at 8 pm est most evenings and it just lets people send in something
lavish quest
I don't think there's any manner of lfg change they were gonna do that would make people queue 3s
sharp meteor
and you can filter by potential partners
but yeah lfg also doomed by the social thing regardless of how good they make it
whcih is people wanna q with big partners
compact mica
Its only a good idea if its for the most entry-level shit that exists
it never shoud have gotten a rank one
sharp meteor
shuffle r1 is the true test of skill 
fierce elm
Waiting for the day m+ solo queue gets put in and just kills LFG entirely lmao
sharp meteor
honestly shuffle r1 too fast sometimes i think
sharp meteor
somebody like rudar or ssds can afk til 4 days on season
q up and go to #1 on ladder
fierce elm
this is mud btw i dont wanna type on my phone so im just on her pc
Account sharing HUH
compact mica
will there be one of those fated seasons or whatever they are
recycled content memes
probably
sharp meteor
will there be one of those fated seasons or whatever they are
probably not nah
compact mica
really LOL
sharp meteor
i think new expac cycle is gonna be 3 tiers and seasons
then no fated
so not full 2 years type thing
fierce elm
They did say something about just being 3 tiers
sharp meteor
with that weird lull at the end
fierce elm
due to Midnight
sharp meteor
ya
compact mica
I thought the pve noobs liked that season
sharp meteor
u gotta maintain the illusion by like
making new raids
otherwise pve dorks
get off the treadmill
fierce elm
and winter is probably gonna be Midnight
compact mica
god i miss legion
sharp meteor
10 week seasons woot
compact mica
tabards were good
lavish quest
Now mud is rp'ing as an egirl?
compact mica
i liked legions pvp reward structure the most
lavish quest
Well this is just failing RP
urban skiff
you're here
compact mica
i hate typing on my phone dude
sharp meteor
ya its awful
fierce elm
god stop
sharp meteor
fierce elm
No its MUD rn
wheat jay
shush afro
fierce elm
Keep up
wheat jay
go away
fierce elm
I know you got mad FOMO
thats why you are suddenly participating in #pvp again
You saw the cute lil transmogs for next season
compact mica
afro knows to say my name in all caps
wheat jay
nah
fierce elm
I mean you threatened me when I used you real name
wheat jay
ill participate next expansion lmao
fierce elm
Yeah you do
compact mica
idk you
compact mica
ill ban you
fierce elm
You sent my own address to me
fierce elm
yeah
rancid granite
sounds more like Lyle than Liam actually
fierce elm
Lets go with that
compact mica
Lyle is crazy
fierce elm
Naa the name slaps
lavish quest
Lyle is crazy
Get a real name
fierce elm
https://tenor.com/view/energy-kyle-monster-drink-soda-gif-14275608
idk this isn't really Lyle behavior
rancid granite
@fierce elm wanna be my discord kitten
fierce elm
if only there was a name associated with drinking Monster and mountain dew
rancid granite
Aatos's kitten
fierce elm
what the fuck no im taken
lavish quest
Don't be like that baby
fierce elm
@fickle forge 's Kitten
rancid granite
maybe i'll take Artji in to be my lil monk kitten
fierce elm
lmao
fickle forge
@urban skiff I might try enh again
This mastery enh sham did infinite damage on cleave
urban skiff
This mastery enh sham did infinite damage on cleave
that's how it should be
copper fox
Ain’t no way midnight winter
S3 will be 42 minutes long
I guess February counts as winter
lol
That would work
urban skiff
This mastery enh sham did infinite damage on cleave
i can't find that shaman at all, are you sure he was real?
viral urchin
hey guyss. not a warrior, but here to see if anyone has a weakaura they use to track hamstring uptime? to notify you if its about to fall off your target? I think it would be helpful to a warrior I am coaching
fierce elm
Coaching a warrior but not a warrior 🤔
viral urchin
Coaching a warrior but not a warrior 🤔
i play with lots of warriors 🙂
fierce elm
I don't think anyone has a hamstring weakaura here
fierce elm
but I reckon creating one would take like 2 seconds
viral urchin
I dont know how to create weakauras, I'll try though, ty
urban skiff
hey guyss. not a warrior, but here to see if anyone has a weakaura they use to t...
you can just make that yourself with the preset
viral urchin
you can just make that yourself with the preset
thank you!
urban skiff
give me a sec
viral urchin
ill try both of your suggestions, didnt think of changing the bdebuffs prio
rancid granite
tracking hamstring WA's sounds like a huge waste of mental focus
urban skiff
urban skiff
tracking hamstring WA's sounds like a huge waste of mental focus
depends what you want it to do
viral urchin
tracking hamstring WA's sounds like a huge waste of mental focus
sure, but he has 2 hamstrings in a 5 minute game
violet fossil
zzzzzzszzzzzjqajhds
viral urchin
and I cant waste my mental focus trying to tell him when to put it up
violet fossil
It’s always up
fierce elm
(I have zero hamstring usage)
rancid granite
yeah i just spam tclap these days
violet fossil
I don’t think ret has hamstring
rancid granite
never hammy
urban skiff
fierce elm
On my warrior
viral urchin
wow
urban skiff
there we go, just made it
viral urchin
impresive
urban skiff
it sucks and doesn't glow when it's missing
fierce elm
I don't use tclap either
wheat jay
S3 will be 42 minutes long
Maybe no s4?
viral urchin
it sucks and doesn't glow when it's missing
i appreciate this. ill try to modify it or ask my partner for help
violet fossil
@rancid granite ah ah toes
fickle forge
hey guyss. not a warrior, but here to see if anyone has a weakaura they use to t...
Is this like, for you to apply slow?
viral urchin
Is this like, for you to apply slow?
for the warrior to, yeah
fickle forge
His eyes then
rancid granite
<@322832401506107394> ah ah toes
ah! toes! *
violet fossil
He’s blind
violet fossil
It’s for my friends mom
fickle forge
Best way to track it is to do this macro
#showtooltip
/cast Mortal Strike
/cast Ignore Pain
copper fox
lol
fierce elm
Idk why Kargish is so stupid
#showtooltip
/yell I am JORKIN IT
/cast Execute
/cast Mortal Strike
/cast Overpower
/cast Ignore Pain
/cast Slam
There you go
Then you need one more button for big damage stuff
copper fox
Hey guys, not a NE warrior but I was wondering if anyone can tell me what to keybind shadowmeld to
fierce elm
So
/yell morbin' time
/cast orc racial
/cast Avatar
/cast Bladestorm
/cast Ignore Pain
2 button spec
add charge onto the first macro
copper fox
Hey can someone answer my fucking question
fierce elm
Hey guys, not a NE warrior but I was wondering if anyone can tell me what to key...
W
are you happy now
boreal veldt
So
/yell morbin' time
/cast orc racial
/cast Avatar
/cast Bladestorm
/cast Ignor...
/yell PLEASE DON'T DISARM ME
/cast Avatar
/cast Demolish
hear me out
fierce elm
Oh yeah if you are one of those mental rejects that play colo
boreal veldt
Implying i ever had a mental to begin with
fierce elm
#showtooltip
/Yell PLEASE BE GENTLE I HAVE A MENTAL DISORDER
/cast Avatar
/cast Demolish
there you go
lmfao
boreal veldt
lmaoooo
copper fox
Magnus is doing lore walking everyone tune in quickly
boreal veldt
I'm excited to not follow his guide in s3
fierce elm
wow my favorite warrior is live, I bet I can watch this dude do so much gameplay rn
copper fox
Proc trinket first s3 ofc
fierce elm
Oh yeah standing still simulator, not in queue anywhere, not interacting with chat
copper fox
fierce elm
just listening to music AFK
boreal veldt
copper fox
Mag said crit ring first in s3 btw