pvp

[bright kraken]

A strawberry is also not a berry nor a straw

A survival hunter does not survive

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-nod-cap-white-house-elon-musk-elon-musk-nod-gif-1745564845115574167

[sand sundial]

Is it ret angle next season

Chains finally broken, abusive relationship finally ended

Type shit

I have a suspicion that they're gonna do what they did to prot to other specs..copium..

[bright kraken]

Elaborate please

If ret is good that's actually pretty good for meeeeewe

[pastel swan]

Does anyone in here like Wendy’s???

[sand sundial]

looked solid so far in the expac, new set looks good and fun is all

i dont try as hard as I used to warr has bored me so much this season

[lavish quest]

Yes

Better looking set. Time to reroll

[worldly oriole]

i gotta stop with the wendys

i was gettin the biggie bag @pastel swan

lmfao

[pastel swan]

You like Wendy’s nuts hit ya mouf???

@worldly oriole

[worldly oriole]

only while i listen to (PRS only) techno mix

[spice hornet]

I do

[pastel swan]

You like wendy’s nuts hit yo mouf??????

[rancid granite]

cook some rice at home get wendys chili and combine GG

[spice hornet]

Yes

I took too much adderall up all night

Now I have to get through the day

[rancid granite]

take more duh

stay up til you start seeing the shadow people

[lost juniper]

betterblizzplates stopped showing the healer icon above healers for me after latest update, any suggestions?

[rancid granite]

check in options? it's there for me still

[spice hornet]

@sharp meteor LFG is great

[sharp meteor]

💀

[lost juniper]

yeah its there for me aswell but doesnt work anymore, "test" doesnt either. ill experiment in a minute and see

[sharp meteor]

3s just so doomed for most people

[spice hornet]

It’s crazy how many advertisement groups there are now

Used to be like 1-2 max

[sharp meteor]

Everybody I queue into has funny accented name and data sharing disabled

[urban skiff]

there's one of the tracking sites that can bypass the data share thing

Where the only way to opt out is to create a login and list the characters you don't want to link back to your main account

[sharp meteor]

Which site 🥴

[elfin surge]

deadge

[spice hornet]

How

I thought Blizz hides you from their api

Which all these sites use

[urban skiff]

I think they scrape all characters and something lets them chain them

[spice hornet]

Interesting

From the srmory(

[urban skiff]

afaik the data share thing is just the shared achievements

[spice hornet]

Armory

[sharp meteor]

Does it pull off ladder or armory

[urban skiff]

no clue, struggling to remember what site it was

[spice hornet]

Bet it scrapes all the armory web pages

Since you can’t hide from the armory

[sharp meteor]

Yer

[urban skiff]

but it was just some rando doing his own little site and r/worldofpvp just exploded in disgust when they found out he had accidentally circumvented the data share thing

and he pretty nonchalantly stated they could make a user and opt out

[urban skiff]

Remind me again, what role does demo lock have in blitz?

brawler or solo or?

[fierce elm]

Social Reject

[sharp meteor]

Demo owns most stuff at a node

[urban skiff]

so discount hunter?

[sharp meteor]

Lol

Discount

[bright kraken]

Nah demo can actually kill stuff

Survival is fucking useless istg

[sharp meteor]

Every hunter in blitz legit useless

[urban skiff]

hunters can too, it's just you

[fierce elm]

Demo: slaps and is tanky

[urban skiff]

is why i loved demo back in MoP

[bright kraken]

Do you know how many defensives I have to pop as SV to not dir

[urban skiff]

playing SL/SL was just fun

[sharp meteor]

Hunter does nothing

[fierce elm]

and have CC up the asshole

[bright kraken]

Trueshot is so good lmao

[fierce elm]

one minimum

[urban skiff]

I play enhancement, you will find no sympathy in this storm

[bright kraken]

Nah lmao

[fierce elm]

alright zero minimum

[bright kraken]

I mean that is a more efficient use of defensives

[urban skiff]

still stuck deciding on race for my wife's MW

[rancid granite]

the biggest race

heal with pure strength

[iron ravine]

Gnome

[green wharf]

Honestly enh is better than survival overall

If you arent bicmex or whatever he is called

Spec is designed for him

[urban skiff]

Enh population worse

seems like survival is doing way better than enhancement

[wheat jay]

that's literally 3 players

5 stalke

4 bicmex

or 5 even

so ye

that's like 3 or 4 players there xD

[frank knoll]

They don’t sit
They go to the team clash and try to PvE

[sharp meteor]

at least bm hunters usaully know their place

mm hunters legit worthless

surv hunters are bad and worthless

dhs worthless unless they know to peel

blitz so annoying

[frank knoll]

I’m very realized DK is the prime melee for Blitz

Everything else sucks

[sharp meteor]

rogue is king

dk best brawly team fighty man

chains grip giga

[frank knoll]

Rogue is in a league of its own

[sharp meteor]

dh also owns at peelin out of fights to float and defend nodes

but 90% of dh players are dumb and terrible

and think they're an arms warrior

and afk in the team fight

[frank knoll]

DH was miserable
Slowed and in CC
DK I have so much fun keeping everyone slowed, death gripping etc cleaving
Using AMZ on my team

[sharp meteor]

i swear most people actually cant grasp how bad the avg blitz player is

actually even the top blitz players only have a few real humans per spec

[frank knoll]

It’s random BGs with a rating attached

[sharp meteor]

ya thats how the rodents treat it

[frank knoll]

Kennie you seem angry
Did you just lose a bunch or something

[sharp meteor]

nah only wins lately

cant q blitz until 4 am

[frank knoll]

Frost DK atm feels like it was designed for BG team fights

[sharp meteor]

ya fdk always owns

[urban skiff]

the top 2 enhancements are also the same person

[frank knoll]

I think ret is good too but nothing beats grip + chains

[sharp meteor]

u should see top enhs on na

[frank knoll]

That’s what Saul and Bigdam
Who else

[sharp meteor]

bigdams branding is unequalled

ronnie hots

enh has like oddly good players

then bigdam and his 30 alts

[urban skiff]

still haven't found an answer, why is bigdam also on EU?

[frank knoll]

I faced Bigdam on one of his 30 players
Did max damage and healing, killed everyone went 6/0

[urban skiff]

is it a cabal of players pretending to be one player?

[sharp meteor]

uh dunno if its him but could be

blitz hours make it so like

if u wanna q early

lot of na players made eu accs

to play bgs

like im not joking at high mmr u can only play 1-4 am on weekends

and getting to high mmr is like 20 games

[copper fox]

I gotta q blitz this weekend

[frank knoll]

I queue at like 2-3 pm and then like 9-11pm

[copper fox]

What mmr

My warrior is like 2.9 rn

Mmr

2400 something cr

[frank knoll]

2.2ish

[copper fox]

I think I gotta fkn q tn at like 2am

I’ll keep an eye on streams

[frank knoll]

it still takes me like 20 mins to get a game
That’s why I’ve been doing keys lately
I can just login and play

[copper fox]

next season is going to be insane

Astral Warlord is the coolest title in the game period

It’s grown on me

[frank knoll]

Yeah interpreting warlord is gay

Or whatever

[copper fox]

The pve ?

[frank knoll]

No the blitz title this season
Interprising warlord/marshall

[copper fox]

It’s Prized

That’s the pve one

PvP is prized

Which is also

Gay

[urban skiff]

amen

I remember in the good old days, when you said it was the worst day of your life to learn that title existed

[frank knoll]

Yeah it is

[urban skiff]

What does it go best with?

[copper fox]

Astral gladiator and legend are whack

Uhhh

[urban skiff]

Obviously moonkin but I don't play that

[copper fox]

Ele sham

[urban skiff]

If I'm druid I'm feral, hard stop

huh?

[copper fox]

Actually enhance too

Make Tauren tho

Male*

[urban skiff]

I know we have astral shift but I always pictured that more as going on a journey without your body and less stars'n shit

[copper fox]

Maybe astral warlord is spiritual

[urban skiff]

astral warlord dragon thingy

[copper fox]

That would be huge

[urban skiff]

I'm making a demo lock

another one

My warlock is so old it's named after a popular boss before that boss existed. It's a restricted name

[wheat jay]

bro why's your char head looks like dick with eyes

smh

[urban skiff]

I just needed something

this what it looks like without scales

[wheat jay]

i see the same thing

[frank knoll]

How do you get that < The Astral Walker> title

[urban skiff]

it's just go kill alganon on 25-man ulduar

She made a gnome MW

Praise the short queens

[lavish quest]

As to always be ready to penetrate

[urban skiff]

That's peak humour

[lavish quest]

[urban skiff]

shouldn't i have a tail racial too?

[lavish quest]

Are you an evoker?

[wheat jay]

only evoker has 2

rest has one

[light pumice]

Hey all, I feel like my rotation is lacking a little bit and wanted to see if I could get some advice. I play Arms and I typically open like so:

Charge, Warbreaker, Thunderous Roar, Bladestorm (usually 3 ticks) overpower, mortal strike, Thunder clap.

I may have to change some things in there depending on my target like opening with storm bolt to force a movement trade on a caster or a champion’s spear if I’m really trying to dumpster someone, but that’s the general flow I go with on my opener. What do you think? What could I do better?

[copper fox]

Are you pressing execute

Also press MS first

[rancid granite]

rly; mm was fun as hell in bg's but its also in comparison to warrior

[rancid granite]

looks like a witchdoctor shrunk his head like in beetlejuice

https://tenor.com/view/beetlejuice-for-gl-veeme-for-gl-vemee-gif-21865933

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[worldly oriole]

(PRS only) techno

@copper fox what you think of my new socks

[copper fox]

They fit your personality

[violet fossil]

taco bell

[worldly oriole]

ya lmao

[violet fossil]

@copper fox I has question

[copper fox]

Ask me them

[violet fossil]

Is there a lift I can do with barbells that target my lower back?

errr

My bad dumbbells****

Meant to say dumbbells

[copper fox]

Good mornings

RDLs

[dawn hill]

What is the point of Hamstring in PvP these days? I don't think the 0.75s change will really help

[violet fossil]

Good afternoon

Jk

[copper fox]

lol

[violet fossil]

I gotcha

[copper fox]

With just DBs that’s about it but honestly you don’t need more

Those 2 are perfect

For the good mornings just have a shoulder width stance

It’ll be more effective for your lower back that way

[violet fossil]

Thank you

[worldly oriole]

db rdl and db straight leg I've done

are straight legs bad if you go all the way down @copper fox

[copper fox]

Just adds too much risk vs what you gain from doing that.

So short answer I’d say yes

[worldly oriole]

yeah past a certain weight I cut my range of motion

@copper fox

to like above the knee

[copper fox]

Above the knee?

[worldly oriole]

yeah for a straight leg dead

[copper fox]

Show video

Your hamstrings won’t even lengthen stopping above the knee lol

Stretch is a bad word there

Lengthen*

[worldly oriole]

yeah ik I'm new to the gym so just getting opinions and knowledge

with the ez bar I'm going all the way down

the other are stopped above the knee

but the smith is trash doesn't let me go lower

[dawn hill]

and again:What is the point of Hamstring in PvP these days? I don't think the 0.75s change will really help

[copper fox]

It will help and hamstring slows enemies down?

Faster globals will always be a +

It’s literally halved

I can do damage faster

After applying hamstring

And I can apply it faster

Etc

[sharp meteor]

to slow stuff

so u can hit it

[dawn hill]

how often does Hamstring last the full duration?

[copper fox]

Always unless someone presses freedom, otherwise it should be up 90% of the game since you should be re applying

[lavish quest]

You might get 1 gcd in now before they blink

Pog

[green wharf]

gripping healers from the team so your team kills then is giga fun

[rancid granite]

is there anyone mighty enough still here that plays fury these days

thinking about making my 2nd warrior fury only 👍

[light pumice]

Yes, if it procs or if the target gets low enough, I press execute in there.

[copper fox]

lol BRÜTHER

the real ones never stopped

[rancid granite]

you were supposed to be the only real one i think

last skillcapped said they were a WILD CARD so thats kinda legit

[spice hornet]

Meth the only guy playing fury but I respect dat

True fury warrior brain

[copper fox]

I will prevail

Against all odds as the great Mies would say

[sharp meteor]

queued into one fury and was like huh i feel ike this guy didnt get the memo

and cut him in half through wall like 40 seconds in

need war paint to be 10% again or som

[copper fox]

That’s fkd up

[green wharf]

i would play fury a thousand times before playing colossus

[rancid granite]

ok dont be dramatic col isnt that bad

[green wharf]

its shit

Thane>slayer>nothing>col

[sharp meteor]

played some colo the other night felt nice

reduce dmobility

stings

[rancid granite]

def feels gimmicky and not fluid

[sharp meteor]

how is it

gimmicky

[rancid granite]

but the whole goal is to see how high numbers can go :)

[sharp meteor]

and "not fluid"

its literally just warrior with fewer execute procs

[rancid granite]

cause demolish is annoying to use and it just doesn't feel smooth like slayer; rotation or something

the rhythm is off

[sharp meteor]

if a demolish is gonna sit and force a button then press

otherwise just sittin on it is fine

[limber relic]

demolish not really worth pressing unless all cds are used ngl

but ngl i cant stop pressing it hoping it doesnt hit for absolutly nothing

but it stil does 9/10 times

[sharp meteor]

ya doesnt feel like something you can really force

well without cc anyways

[dawn hill]

praise the day when Hamstring reduces speed TO 50% instead of BY

[limber relic]

but i somehow did a 5m LAST HIT on demolish with only 10 stacks of colossus might and a colossus smash

on a feral

[dawn hill]

demolish ramp up is garbage in PvP

takes way too long

Avatar should give us 10 stacks asap

[limber relic]

yeah i dont get how it works ngl and i will prob never hit that ever again

xd

[sharp meteor]

ye startin without juice is like

i feel like payoff should be better

because when stacked it feels alright but slayer feels alright insta

[limber relic]

how to counter colossus whole kit?

2 steps to the side

"BUT YOURE SUPPOSED TO STUN"

ok

[spice hornet]

Seifcham getting glad means it’s free everyone

Just fyi

[boreal veldt]

I honestly just rip demo/ava off the go with maybe 0-3 stacks, it usually still gets like 5-6mil

[copper fox]

[boreal veldt]

anyone getting any mileage out of Fatality

[spice hornet]

It helps for me

[boreal veldt]

i'll try it for a bit

[green wharf]

i got to play with a few colossus when i was climbing BM

man, its so funny to walk away the demolish

and when it hits it does shit nothing if doesnt crit

and when it does is just a jumpscare

[boreal veldt]

just disarm/incap bait at this point

ooo look big scary demolish, better use a cc on it

[green wharf]

its not even needed, i just walk away

cause the speed gems

wars and dks never catch me

[urban skiff]

i forgot the warlock challenge set only looks good because everything at the time looked kind of bad 😦

[sharp meteor]

still looks sick now

[urban skiff]

Does it even still have the special wing animation?

I can't tell if it's not showing because random issue or if it's not showing because I don't have the full complete 9 pieces transmogged

[fierce elm]

still looks sick

[urban skiff]

Looks derpy on bloodelf or whatever drachtyr in visage form is

looks sick as fuck on undeads

I should just bite the bullet and transfer my old warlock. It's full of really old cool shit from being a vanilla character

hahaha

squishy lobby incoming!

so squishy healer quit

gotta protect that mmr while it's still high

[urban skiff]

pro tip: If you need to pause your queue to do something, join a follower dungeon

42 rating

how

[green wharf]

rly bad or just quitting and get the 200 penalty

[urban skiff]

There's like a wall near the 1800s that's really tough to overcome with sub

below 1600s is weird but it's possible to carry, then near 1800s people get just competent enough to be difficult to carry against but not competent enough that I can lean back and focus on cc and trust that they can actually win a 3v2

[lavish quest]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JVyvohPkHF8

[jovial torrent]

@urban skiff just did mage to 1800 for elite set and 2000-2100 mmr is just screwed full of gladiators and new ppl/alts who get thrown into that range after winning alot of their first games, honestly not sure why my mage started at 2k rating when i did blitz to 1800 season 1 for mog

got hit for a 5 million aimed shot too

[urban skiff]

funky times

[wheat jay]

meanwhile pve lmao

[lavish quest]

Honestly, with how fucked the pvp reward structure and MMR system is, it's kinda deserved anyways

[fierce elm]

STEP ON ME

[wheat jay]

sheesh

afro

now we get this

and cool pve changes

and new dh spec

with big ass sword

and im happi

i get new survi to play in pvp basically lmao

and we all know how it works

it will be OP as fuck

[lavish quest]

I might break into a whole new world and not main warrior next patch.

See how much I hate it

[wheat jay]

mmmmm

you will hate it lmao

especially as tank

other tanks just feel weird

[lavish quest]

We'll see.
I've been getting used to prot pala so I might be okay

[wheat jay]

warrior is like "i take less dmg, nice"

other tanks

gotta heal

gotta cc

mitigate

and so on

[lavish quest]

I do miss doing 2-3 times more dam tho

[wheat jay]

warrior is just a wall xD

[frank knoll]

Why are you playing Prot pal

[wheat jay]

hes doing m+ on prot pal, its strong

[rancid granite]

sword&shield warrior dps spec when

[lavish quest]

That wall fuckin hurts tho

[lavish quest]

And because pvping is like being the girlfriend who goes back to the abusive boyfriend over and over again

[wheat jay]

ye, its fun

pvp is unbelievably wack

getting worse every season

[lavish quest]

Ye I miss it when I'm on pally

[urban skiff]

almost done with rogue

[wheat jay]

like sure let me play some pvp, and get wrecked by some unbalanced shit

sheesh

[urban skiff]

you'll get a big sword but be a ranged like survival with the balance on enhancement and a rotation like bm and utility of warrior

The monkey paw's finger curls

[wheat jay]

possibly

see, the #1 thing for me in pvp

[lavish quest]

Ye I didn't even bother with 2400 this season

[wheat jay]

is how much fun do i get from gameplay

I can play the worst F tier specs and enjoy it

and easily climb with those to desired cr

monk last season i got 2400+ in like a week

when it was the single worst melee in the game XD

survi i played it when it was both S tier and F tier

so if that new dh spec is fun, ill play it enjoy it

[frank knoll]

Wait are you doing Keys as Prot pal or PvP

[wheat jay]

only animals do pvp on tanks /spit

[lavish quest]

Keys/Pve as Prot pal/ret

If I pvp it'll be on ret kek

[wheat jay]

as god intended lmao

[fierce elm]

At the end of the season*

[wheat jay]

point still stands

in other words

[fierce elm]

When start mmr was 2.8k*

[wheat jay]

go away afro

[fierce elm]

: )

[wheat jay]

id log on and check my checkpvp

but i cba lmao

[urban skiff]

I respect the shit out of you right now

[wheat jay]

my start mmr was like 2k or lower

i just know how to abuse my wins/losses at the start

[lavish quest]

Only furries pvp on tanks

[urban skiff]

tell me more

[lavish quest]

Like Kennie

[wheat jay]

what, its easy as hell to abuse mmr lol

[urban skiff]

I never gave it any thought

[wheat jay]

and get 1800 in like 5-10 shuffles

get 1300

even if you have to lose games on purpose in shuff

[urban skiff]

my struggle is how to hit the streak early and not end up with a lot of 3-3 shuffles on a fresh toon

[wheat jay]

and next shuffle go 6-0 or 5-1

instant 1800 👍

for higher rating

play from the start

get like 1800 or so

take a break

play like 2 shuffles every month or 2 months

to get boosted by weekly mmr inflation

meaning you won't lose anything

[urban skiff]

huh

[wheat jay]

all under assumption you know how to play pvp well

[urban skiff]

Yea see that's still my issue

Among pvp'ers i'm mid at best

[wheat jay]

ye thats why you can abuse it

much easier than banging your head into a wall and playing 20 shuffles a day lol

get that mmr injection 👍

like, 1800 is literally 5-10 shuffles max

xD

[urban skiff]

I did it stupidly fast on my druid last season

haven't started my druid yet this season

[wheat jay]

just gotta get around 1300 cr

then win the lobby hard

[urban skiff]

What do you do if your match at 1300 is a true struggle-lobby? go 0-6 and build up to 1300 again?

[frank knoll]

Yeah I’m doing Keys in VDH and I just leveled my bear gonna do that too

[wheat jay]

you quit the game and uninstall cuz you went 0-6 at pisslow cr/mmr

i literally had to afk and go behind pillar to lose games in a shuffle, to not get above 1400 lmao

it was a struggle man xD

[urban skiff]

If one of the healers in your lobby is complete garbage you're stuck with a 3-3 lobby

[wheat jay]

i almost won a game where i was afk

[urban skiff]

every time i see a blue brother I want to swap back to my shaman

[wheat jay]

well, you end up with 300 cr for free

[urban skiff]

😦

[wheat jay]

still very positive and like 5 shuffles ahead if you got to 1400 and started getting 15cr per won round lol

if your plan is only 1800 for the set, that's the way to do it

and even then if youre stuck at 1600, and your mmr also dropped super low to 1600

take a break

come back to it in 2-3 months

mmr will boost you to 1900+ mmr lmao

and you're chilling hard again xD

[fierce elm]

Artji plays for fun b t w

[wheat jay]

well, on my main i do

on my alts, just for armor, i don't xD

[fierce elm]

F o r f u n

[urban skiff]

My plan is only 1800 on alts, I kind of want to finally try and see what I can do with a real push on my shaman

[wheat jay]

good luck

[rancid granite]

🫡

[wheat jay]

1800 super free unless you go 0-6 like 3 times in a row xD

or 20 lobbies of 3-3 lol

[rancid granite]

or unless your name is aatos and you try it on holy paladin

[urban skiff]

those 3-3s are super common for me

[wheat jay]

aatos

why are you a healer player

reflect on your behaviour

go to the corner

[rancid granite]

everyone needs to experience healer to help learn how to be a better dps

thats allowed!

or the 30 second ss Q's to stock on conquest tokens for the warrior :)

[fierce elm]

uh no

[fierce elm]

can you just hit 1800

[urban skiff]

best way to experience healer is when i blend them on my shaman

[urban skiff]

i'm trying

[rancid granite]

lol

[urban skiff]

that rdruid was S T R U G G L I N G

I was promised all i have to do to win is a bit of cc but instead i'm working my ass off maximizing dps

[fierce elm]

Its how I play rogue lmao

always works

though it was assa and outlaw

[urban skiff]

That's probably why

next after rogue is feral or hunter

also levelling demo lock but that's just to get my wife invested into MW

time to go 0-6 or 1-5

DH should be 2 free wins if I can figure out how

[iron ravine]

Is hunter as op in pvp as pve

[urban skiff]

I mean I'm planning survival on my journey to play all the hard specs first

I waited for this

if moonkin hadn't been on my team I'd be done with rogue

[urban skiff]

decent lobby replaced with a struggle lobby

great

healer diff lobby tbh

@fierce elm

[fierce elm]

just DO BETTE

[urban skiff]

I can't do better when a warrior goes 1-5 in that lobby

It was a good warlock, have to accept that

[urban skiff]

oh look, another struggle lobby

still only at 150ish shuffle rounds which is half of what it took to get 1800 on my shaman for some reason

[lavish quest]

The real ascension of pvp is learning that you should just be pve'ing

[urban skiff]

haaaah

fuck this

[lavish quest]

You got a lil mmr and cr

Just 4-2 and you're there

[lost juniper]

ive been afk on my warrior this past month, have we gone demolish in ss?

[rancid granite]

lotta people are

[sharp meteor]

can play either they both aight

slayer feels nice for chasing down high moiblity stuff

colo lil tankier and feels nicer to play rend on

[lost juniper]

thanks brother, i hate press rend so ill stick to slayer

[sharp meteor]

yee

[boreal veldt]

i wish rend/clap was more satisfying as colossus

or just as arms in general

that DF tier that triggered a clap after sudden death spoiled me

[verbal tangle]

I just want SL Death Sentence back

I want to put the fear of God back into casters

[boreal veldt]

That was the execute charge?

[verbal tangle]

yes

[boreal veldt]

Miss that one too... i remember it was bugged and you could send out ranged executes while rooted

[sharp meteor]

i feel like clap just needs to not really be a thing for arms

rend cant do dmg if its applied with clap

and rend doin no dmg feels bad

[boreal veldt]

yeah it's wild they've not looked at it, i don't think anyone has pressed the actual rend button all expac

[jovial torrent]

rend just sort of got phased out with deep wounds, and before that they kept increasing the duration of rend with each patch cus its a pain to keep refreshing it outside of single target pve. warrior is a dated class it needs to get a bunch of stuff baked into baseline, like meat cleaver is so bad imo

should just be like arcane mage where its kind of context dependant and a funnel, rampage and some arms ability should just default hit multiple things, and if it does, it triggers "meat cleaver", which does some sort of special funnel effect like arcane orb barrage

also delete hamstring and bake it into dps rotation

[sharp meteor]

its like the instant lava burst proc thing

if its too easy or readily available it just does nothin

if you can aoe spam rend it cant tick for much

also everybody hated dots being a ton of our dmg

and they cant find a balance

[frank knoll]

Yeah and if I want to scratch a PvP itch I’ll do BGs which is basically PvE

[lavish quest]

Well I don't see why not... 🤔

[sharp meteor]

[fickle forge]

I like that arms is basic and still holding up after 20 years
Don't @ me

[sharp meteor]

ya need to take rend off tc and make it a button worth pressing again

[worldly oriole]

just smashed upper body

opened with a pyramid on incline bench legendary

[open glacier]

is the new belt worth it for pvp?

[sharp meteor]

No.

[rancid granite]

can't even put engineer enchants on it so not even worth it for pve either 😔

[rancid granite]

keep training and train hard

train like goku is watching u

https://tenor.com/view/meme-workout-train-bed-goku-gif-17266241534508621610

[lavish quest]

Just make tc a button worth pressing

[sharp meteor]

dooms rend as said

also weird that tc and whirlwind still exist together

[lavish quest]

Just let us aoe rot the world

[rancid granite]

imp tclap as col is fun to use as a slow

no need for rend or hamstring just imp. tclap

:)

[jovial torrent]

the only thing i miss from bfa is the azerite power that made overpower into a shockwave

[elfin surge]

wat da sigma

[wheat jay]

so, dreadnaught talent?

[scarlet barn]

@fickle forge

[green wharf]

it was in DF cause tclap had similar damage to slam

now is meme to press

[rancid granite]

yeah i only began using imp tclap recently

looks cool and AoE slow so im more ok with it now lol

[spice hornet]

You’re 32 years old unc

[worldly oriole]

IS LORD ahune a scam?

[hoary egret]

you were right

prot is a blast in blitz

[sharp meteor]

yeee until u queue into a bdk with hands then it's just over

but aside from that and sometimes sparse queues its a good time

[hoary egret]

veng was fun, but prot is a different kind of fun

[worldly oriole]

veng was sick in legion

when you could change specs before lobby

[hoary egret]

i havent gone against a bdk yet. only bear, pwarr, and prot pal (poor prot pal got obliterated)

i will say i hate frost dks with their grippy hands and their freezes and their slows

[worldly oriole]

legion screenshot says 2017 lol

[fickle forge]

20% slow

[rancid granite]

better than 0%

and it has a decent range

[green wharf]

40% if you get the net node

[spice hornet]

@sharp meteor kennie blood dk playing into a venruki shuffl lobby

[sharp meteor]

which one is he

dont say fury who didnt wall

[wheat jay]

that's more than what you get from me

[spice hornet]

lmao hes the rdruid

well, the elliot one

this fury warrior might be cooked

lobby dog for sure

holy crap ive been hit with 5 mins of ads wtf

missing the entire thing

this is worse than tv

[fickle forge]

Which you very hopefully do not have

[sharp meteor]

gripped arms warr line in giga damp and he died

then mage exploded 1 min in without blocking

[spice hornet]

lmao

[sharp meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/ogvhs-woo-wooo-woooo-wooooo-gif-22674107

[green wharf]

if you are playing tclap you have to

but then again you will have to play bleed

and you will look like a goober

[urban skiff]

gave up for the day

might try tomorrow during daytime shuffles and tank 200+ rating lol

[lavish quest]

Just wait till last week to abuse that mmr inflation what bit you can

[urban skiff]

Eh

but I want to play

[fickle forge]

No you don't

It's an awful talent

[urban skiff]

i keep telling myself I'll play this or that character because it doesn't matter and it's just a joke

but then i get invested and i'm having fun and suddenly for the first time i sort of know what I'm doing when I'm playing my rogue even though i made it near the end of vanilla / early TBC

[fickle forge]

Bro

You aren't tracking DRs

What do you mean you sorta know what you're doing playing rogue

[urban skiff]

If kidney shot is ready i can stun

idk what you mean

[sharp meteor]

Zerchie is like literal starter mmr on every spec for the past decade.

[fickle forge]

What are you cheap shotting?

[urban skiff]

ks cs cs first go, cs cs cs 2nd go

no need to complicate

[fickle forge]

Huh

What the fuck brother

Where's Kidney on healer

Where's Kidney in the 2nd go??

[fierce elm]

WHERE KIDNEY

[urban skiff]

30 sec cd

i go every 15 seconds

don't have time to wait for cooldowns

[urban skiff]

water wet

[fickle forge]

What the fuck

You know DRs are 20 sec long right?

[urban skiff]

what, you just wait around?

No wonder your wins aren't as impressive as mine

[fickle forge]

Can't believe I found a worse sub rogue than Afro

[fierce elm]

What the hell

[urban skiff]

I'd say we're about even

I think my rating is better

[fierce elm]

I mean yeah

I haven't played

but whatchu mean go every 15s

[urban skiff]

I mean why wait

[fierce elm]

Because DR

brother

[urban skiff]

Just hit something else

[fierce elm]

what the hell

SUB ROGUE

B T W

[lyric violet]

is there an arms build for this season?

i checked pins but i see everyone playing something different just wanted a solid shuffle build

[sharp meteor]

u can play w/e

as long as it ain't crit

[lyric violet]

CcEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCYbGzMzMjxsNLLLzMAAAAYGmmxYWMzssZMAbmZwwMjZAAAAAAAYmZWGjBQMjltB2ADYGmQmBb

this gud?

[fierce elm]

I like this more, Rumbling Earth is just a flex point that can be placed anywhere

[urban skiff]

i mean you have 3 targets to hit

just keep swapping targets and cheap shot until something gets stunned

right?

[fierce elm]

Yeah, and two at minimum needs to be in CC for your damage to matter

STOP BAITING ME

[urban skiff]

Just use the 1-shot macro m8

[fierce elm]

STO

P

[urban skiff]

don't even need cc, it does cc for you

[fierce elm]

Im gonna scream

[urban skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-so-funny-gif-27253208

no but seriously, when we win it's because i snipe the rdruid when he tries to stun+clone our healer

straight up unhealable damage and when he ns + tree form i bomb him and swap to one of the others with half duration of my cooldown left

watch him slowly waddle out of the bomb

Then when ks is ready again i go splat the druid

[rancid granite]

troar sux

[fierce elm]

throat goat

[rancid granite]

imp shockwave so underrated tho

[fierce elm]

It is

[rancid granite]

the hit box on normal shockwave is so damn smol i miss it 24/7

i miss it more than i miss spear :)

[midnight zodiac]

Finally, a title worth wearing.

[fickle forge]

Mid

[sharp meteor]

[rancid granite]

didn't you get the memo we're back fury now

[copper fox]

[floral mirage]

recommended % of haste for arms warior in pvp?

[opaque whale]

[green wharf]

personally between 25-30%

But you can always check murlok.io and see what the to dogs are doing

[floral mirage]

ty so much

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/f0Tbj4pbnHE

@fierce elm

literally unplayable with these animations now

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/kekwtf-gif-18599263

[sand sundial]

some of us never left

[wheat jay]

Yall still play warrior?

Roll dh, its gonna be new arms lol

[sand sundial]

ill swap to another plate next season i think

[fierce elm]

Oh yeah? SOURCE?

They are removing DH and making it into a plate spec that has a two hander with Csmash?

holy dude

I would love to see that

[sand sundial]

imagine the new dh also has a demolish

[fierce elm]

I mean according to Artji it's literally gonna be the new Arms

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[fierce elm]

Woah no way!

[wheat jay]

Yes.

[sand sundial]

honestly, I'd play

but the set for DH looks even worse than warrior

[urban skiff]

maybe if i could figure out how to play DH

maybe I'll make DH my SBA-macro trial

if we can access the SBA with a macro I'm certain we can have a good time with it

should i buy this?

upgrade from 7600x

time to lose some rating

think i got it now

@fierce elm another one done

sub rogue kinda easy when you do it my way

[urban skiff]

every match gonna be turbo v thundercleave(?) except two which is double war v double sham

fun times ahead

[wheat jay]

have you had 2100 yet

?

[urban skiff]

never

literally never

I always quit at 1800 so I don't risk my ego by finding out my cap is 1801 lol

this war is taking it all

best i can do is scrape a 2-4 i guess

i wonder why i struggled

smurfs everywhere

[wheat jay]

cuz noone else plays the game

pvp doesn't rly gain new players every season xd

[urban skiff]

I mean it's also before 12 on a weekday so

[cosmic field]

Monday morning it's only gonna be no lifers lol

[urban skiff]

I'm upset he couldn't carry me to a 2nd win

i'd say i'm probably 3+ or +4 wins from 2100

ok well that dream is dead

[copper fox]

What’s your way

[fierce elm]

Not care about DRs

use a swifty one shiot macro

[fierce elm]

grats

[urban skiff]

I don't have a swiftly macro. That's just to troll you 💪

[fierce elm]

LIAR

SHOW YOUR MACROS RN

[urban skiff]

Can't, i'm watching tv

[copper fox]

That’s how I’d play rogue too fk it

What’s a dr

[urban skiff]

Dr is basically kidney shot cooldown, right? 🥸

[green wharf]

and play elf? its pride month but no thank you

[copper fox]

Exactly

[urban skiff]

Ks cs cs first
Then cs cs cs second

When ks comes back drs are gone.

Skip addons. Sign up for my blog

[lavish quest]

Sign up today, his blog will help you hit 1600

[cosmic field]

'My solo shuffle guide to rogue after 10 games played'

just don't mention rating anywhere in the reddit post

[rancid granite]

10 games or 10000 games and still the rating is the same

[fierce elm]

MY OPINION ABOUT THE STATE OF PVP FROM THE PERSON WIT HTHE MOST GAMES (4K+ GAMES)

Hardstuck 1700

[rancid granite]

the opinion: everything needs to be easier

[urban skiff]

i love you guys

[wheat jay]

can we get opinion from vesa then?

most games

not hardstuck

multiclass enjoyer

[fierce elm]

better than that druid on r/worldofpvp

[wheat jay]

@bright kraken yo, give pvp advice to the people

and your opinions about pvp and the state its in

[bright kraken]

Give PvP advice to whom

[fierce elm]

@fickle forge needs some

[bright kraken]

PvP is really fun ATM (outside of WW hope it burns in a fucking hole)

[fierce elm]

dude is washed the fuck up

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge macro ignore pain to MS

[wheat jay]

eyo leave my main alone smh

reported, deported, you live in brazil now

[urban skiff]

me, pretend I'm 1600 moonkin with 10000 games played

[bright kraken]

Uninstall

[urban skiff]

damn

I didn't expect this abuse from someone who isn't even Kenniie

Kennieechan

[fierce elm]

lmao

[bright kraken]

Actual advice though learn your rotation

[urban skiff]

THAT BEHAVIOR IS DISGUSTING I HAVE RAPTORED YOU TO THE PAWLIECE UWU

[bright kraken]

I feel like 1.8k is literally just cc shit and do damage

[urban skiff]

Now we've got Afro

[fierce elm]

That is 1.8k

that is 2.4k

[urban skiff]

Bomb-person is definitely just a bot mimicking everybody

[fierce elm]

that is 2.7k

that is 2.8k

[frank knoll]

Bigmoran?

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[bright kraken]

I'm a hunter main what do you expect

We're all bots

[urban skiff]

class!

[rancid granite]

/gag

[bright kraken]

Why do you think Artji swapped off

[urban skiff]

i expect class

[wheat jay]

survi so dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooog

play 50 minigames to land a trap for 4seconds hihihi so fun

[fierce elm]

you know artji is having fomo when he starts typing in #pvp again after taking a break

[wheat jay]

oh no my healer/dps is dying, let me use one of my 50 minor abilities to maybe reduce the dmg or maybe peel

[bright kraken]

Dude shuffle is so funny

At 2.3k it's impossible to trap healers

[wheat jay]

cap

[bright kraken]

At 2.5k monks don't even port stun lol

[wheat jay]

lmao ye

[bright kraken]

They don't even port when they're not rooted

Stunned*

[wheat jay]

big brain is to leave trap on their teleport instantly

before the fight starts

[bright kraken]

That's what I do on opener

[wheat jay]

if they teleport stun you get trap

[bright kraken]

DUDE

[wheat jay]

if tehy dont you still trap

[bright kraken]

IM ACTUALLY LEARNING

[frank knoll]

That’s not big brain

[bright kraken]

HOLT SHIR

[frank knoll]

That’s like basic hunter game play

[wheat jay]

shut up hamstring bot

[frank knoll]

Wow

[wheat jay]

noone asked

send hamstring uptime

[frank knoll]

Ur like the 2.5 fury guy in here who didn’t know when to press d stance

[bright kraken]

My favourite tecchnique is harpoon -> tar trap into rsham and priest

[wheat jay]

lmao

you never press dstance

unbind

more dmg

[bright kraken]

^

[frank knoll]

I mean it got that dude to 2.5 when fury was broke

[wheat jay]

dstance is a sign of weakness

only prot can sit dstance

in m+

[bright kraken]

Nah not enough dps

[bright kraken]

Remove dstance fr

[wheat jay]

oh nice my meme is back

[bright kraken]

See my issue has and will always be targetting and positioning

You don't want to see me in 3s

[wheat jay]

true

[bright kraken]

I legit spend the first 20 seconds of the game sandbagging

[wheat jay]

vesa cant turn and swap targets at once

[rancid granite]

positioning: face to face ???

[bright kraken]

Oh I can do this actually

[rancid granite]

target: weakest one

[bright kraken]

I've learnt this skill

[wheat jay]

biggest glowup of 2025 confirmed

[bright kraken]

Yeah but in caster melee v caster melee you usually go for the melee

[wheat jay]

im at office, i cba doing anything

...

kill me

[wheat jay]

always kill caster

[bright kraken]

Read smut

[wheat jay]

cant, windows everywhere

[bright kraken]

Maybe it's a shuffle thing actually tbh

[wheat jay]

hit whatever, but if given a choice, kill caster

[rancid granite]

na. always cloth. always mage

[wheat jay]

every death of a caster is a good deed

for the betterment of the world

[rancid granite]

ya artji gets it

[wheat jay]

fuck dem bitches in skirts

literally, and figuratively

[rancid granite]

sword > cloth

[wheat jay]

real

[bright kraken]

Yeah I think to go clothiew but half the time we end up killing the melee

[wheat jay]

i wonder if new dh will work well with warrior

[bright kraken]

And half the time we just CC the caster idk

[wheat jay]

if so i could have a comp with kargo again

or we'd play D tier comps like we always do

mmmmm

[bright kraken]

Like if it's against a lock or frostmage its the melee a lot

[wheat jay]

kill lock

always kill lock

and if possible always bully mage

[bright kraken]

Most caster teammates I play with don't go for the lock

So I just

Keep hitting lock

[fierce elm]

the thing that hasn't been confirmed or anything

lmao

[wheat jay]

nah bro, its already canon

my headcanon, but still canon

[bright kraken]

Do I just ignore who my caster is targetting

[wheat jay]

i mean, you're survi, you can't kill solo lmao

[rancid granite]

why would you know in the first place

just zug

[wheat jay]

call target

kill

[ancient dirge]

Ignore all teammates, play for yourself and you’ll win

Ez

[wheat jay]

every time i saw lock in lobby i did /s go lock full bomba

and it worked

[bright kraken]

Dude I remember this time we were struggling hard in shuffle to do anything to the dps so I just walked over the the rdru pressed like 4 buttons and they just popped

[ancient dirge]

That’s why I don’t even have intercept bound

[bright kraken]

As SV or ww?

[wheat jay]

both

tho ass ww i focused more on killing and dps

survi i focused more on doing proper plays to get small advantages

[rancid granite]

bro put it on charge you goofin

[wheat jay]

like stopping cc, slowing or rooting priest if i saw someone cc my healer etc

on ww its GO GO GO GO GO

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

https://tenor.com/view/kyriakos-grizzly-kapakoulak-kyriakos-grizzly-boxing-gif-4597973938202612300

[rancid granite]

knmew that gif was coming

lolol

[wheat jay]

🙏

[ancient dirge]

no because then I might accidently lose it

my teammates are on their own

if they die its their fault

if i die its their fault

[lavish quest]

You remember the good ole days when we'd tell you stuff like this and you'd get pissed? Lmao

[rancid granite]

charge/leap on cd, enemy goes near teammate = extra charge = more dps

[bright kraken]

NGL I don't really know how to burst on SV

Like I know it's something along the lines of

Bomb CA flank FOTE

[ancient dirge]

if I aint got charge or leap I'm rp walking towards them

[bright kraken]

Kc before flank

[wheat jay]

need dots up

[bright kraken]

forehead xd

[wheat jay]

need shit to line up

[ancient dirge]

the AURA will be enough

[rancid granite]

chad

[bright kraken]

Do we still use explosive for burst

Or is that for ranged uptime

[wheat jay]

i miss df s3 survi, can't believe i was against it for most of the season, and started appreciating it only at the end of the season lol

explosive is kinda burst

[bright kraken]

Yeah I was a shitter

[wheat jay]

you use it to just do basically two instances of dmg at once when it pops lol

survi used to be explosive, chakrams, flanking, fote

BOOM, someone died

[bright kraken]

Dude I miss Chakram

[wheat jay]

i don't

[bright kraken]

Should've kept for Sentinel

[wheat jay]

i miss flayed shot lol

like, survi had fun consistent dmg build, they removed

[bright kraken]

I didn't play sl so

[wheat jay]

replaced with burst setup combo

okay, i didnt like but it grew on me over time

TWW came and now its dogshit lmao

boring as hell

zero meaningful buttons

exlposive shot is a firecracker at best smh

[bright kraken]

Uh survi is pretty strong ATM

[bright kraken]

Not innaccurate

[bright kraken]

I should state in shuffle

In 3s it's ass I've heard

[wheat jay]

surely, but simply because its overtuned

or rather tuned to be strong

[bright kraken]

Not untrue

[wheat jay]

but gameplay is bland as hell

[bright kraken]

Dude it's actually so funny

We have so many executes this tier

Sub 30%? Goodbye

[wheat jay]

meanwhile I go ww and my rotation is like 10 diff abilities, all of which do something meaningful in my rotation xD

[bright kraken]

Dude I hate the ww matchip

[wheat jay]

go arms, all my buttons chop 20% of someone's hp lol

you demolish ww tho

no cap

[bright kraken]

I haven't figured out how to not get wombo comboed yet

[wheat jay]

you can 100% demolish ww

[bright kraken]

I know I van

But I don't know how to escape the burst

[wheat jay]

design wise you shit on ww so hard its unreal lmao

ros, feign death big hits, you can see them

kite away

[bright kraken]

End up sinking 5 defensives and 3 cc's just to not die on opener

[wheat jay]

lmao

noob

[bright kraken]

I know

[wheat jay]

if you cant avoid it for shit, just turtle

you saved 4 defensives and all cc lmao

[bright kraken]

How

Not a joke

[wheat jay]

unironically good moment to kite is when use the conduit

feign into disengage

if they catch you, freedom and cheetah

[lavish quest]

Why would you press hamstring when everyone has perma freedom these days?

[wheat jay]

they're on you still

root

[bright kraken]

What if I'm in CC just trinket?

[wheat jay]

they removed it, slow

[wheat jay]

what else you gonna do, take 3mil dps ot the face and die?