pvp

[bright kraken]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

[urban skiff]

the hat will dangle m8

[fierce elm]

Raid mythic

[spice hornet]

mythic raid mount endboss

[bright kraken]

Oooooo

[limber relic]

looks like a bird lmao

[bright kraken]

NGL I'll probably still use ansurek mount lmao

[urban skiff]

https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/eu-en/577477-feedback-the-war-within-season-3-class-sets/

check out the class sets then

[fierce elm]

Seif doesnt understand physic based things

[urban skiff]

enh is back on the menu and you'll be lucky if you do more than provide MS effect and spamstring at 0.75 GCD

[copper fox]

Throw it at them

[limber relic]

yeah i saw, funny af

[limber relic]

obv

[urban skiff]

the ability referenced has a PPM of 5 so that's 5 more ascendances every 3 minutes

[limber relic]

skullesplitter demolish INC

[bright kraken]

The sentinel buff to survival is so lackluster 😭

[copper fox]

Demo into split into 2 auto crit MS

Might cook

Might not

[fierce elm]

50% crit chance

[copper fox]

Might still be a slayer angle as usual

True

[fierce elm]

remember half effect

[copper fox]

Myb

[spice hornet]

colossus has been baiting me all expac

[fierce elm]

The slayer one cooks

[copper fox]

It’s going to be slayer

The slayer set is insane

[limber relic]

so its gonna be 50% crit instead of 100%

[copper fox]

Yea I misspoke

[fierce elm]

point and LAUGH

[copper fox]

I’m still seething about astral

Give me a fucking break

[fierce elm]

Astral Warlord is growing on me

tbh

[copper fox]

Same tbh

lol

It’s the only one that cooks

[verbal tangle]

Dragons on suicide watch

[copper fox]

Good

Astral Warlord

[spice hornet]

astral warlord is actually goated

[copper fox]

It is

Rdruid arms duo about to smoke the ladder

[fierce elm]

alright dont get lost in the sauce

[copper fox]

Fuck off that’s my PARTNER

[bright kraken]

What's this

[fierce elm]

DONT GET LOST IN THE BOLOGNESE

[copper fox]

I love bolognese

[spice hornet]

r1 bgblitz title for horde players

[copper fox]

New title for bgb

[bright kraken]

Oh, ya

What's the alliance version?

[spice hornet]

marshal instead of warlord

[fierce elm]

Astral Marshal?

lmfao that sucks

[limber relic]

set bonus for slayer is bad

[copper fox]

Yea marshal is whack

[limber relic]

they gna make execute hit like a wet nuuudle

[copper fox]

?

[fierce elm]

what does that even MEAN

[copper fox]

It’s literally a % increase

[limber relic]

there is a reason they nerfed execute by 15% 2 weeks ago

[fierce elm]

My guy thinks we are looking at the actual numbers

[copper fox]

I still don’t see where we are going with this

Yea

[fierce elm]

and not at the effect

Numbers are gonna be so cooked over the next weeks and testing will be done

all we can look at is the effect

and the slayer tier cranks in that aspect

[limber relic]

ok👍

[jovial torrent]

tier sets datamined, looking much better than their initial preview pic, assuming the chains will be physics

[bright kraken]

Yeah immma push for title then faction swap lol

[jovial torrent]

those are the pvp colours supposedly

[urban skiff]

red is elite

it has extra glow

[copper fox]

Yea I gotta push as nelf rdruid

[fierce elm]

ur glowing

[copper fox]

So same

[fierce elm]

lmao Tauren druid inc after season end

[urban skiff]

pvp title is astral, you have to do moonkin

[cinder sluice]

Guys!! It happened, Hamstring is on a 0,75 sec GCD , finally

[limber relic]

just remove it off of GCD :x

[verbal tangle]

Spellbreaker looking kinda trolly for Prot War

[urban skiff]

Astral Warlord actually sounds really amazing

[copper fox]

I’ll do it for the NAME

[frank knoll]

Dk “rework” is awful for PvP

[bright kraken]

How hard is R1 shuffle for no reason

[jovial torrent]

just bake it into ms or slam , /shrug

[frank knoll]

Frost DK even more dead than before

[spice hornet]

taactician reasons for why it not removed maybe?

[cinder sluice]

It's a start at least

[urban skiff]

wdym? reworks are ALWAYS good for power

[fierce elm]

r1 bgb is fairly simple

just a grind

[jovial torrent]

its never going off gcd cus ppl wil complain if its 1% more dps to mash the hell out of it

[fierce elm]

huge grind

[copper fox]

Shuffle or bgb

[cinder sluice]

Tactician needs rework btw

[frank knoll]

No more oblit cleave in DnD

[copper fox]

Bgb easier but more time consuming

[urban skiff]

if they add R1 2v2 titles i'm going to have an easy time, currently r1 enh is 2200

[frank knoll]

Strength buff after Pillar nerfed

[fierce elm]

it wouldnt be spec based

brother

[frank knoll]

AMZ cd increased to 4 mins

[spice hornet]

what afro said lol

[urban skiff]

they nerfed chill streak again bro

[spice hornet]

no reason it would be spec based

[jovial torrent]

have they said anything about adding a mount to shffle/blitz?

[spice hornet]

if they did that would be nuts tho

[urban skiff]

it should be

[fierce elm]

no

[spice hornet]

i fee llike if they did put r1 title in 2s it should be spec based.

[frank knoll]

Also yeah chill streak has been nerfed so much that nobody even plays it

[jovial torrent]

i havent really looked but how insain is 2400 in 3v3 atm, like top 2%?

[fickle forge]

Can't wait to become Astral Legend

[jovial torrent]

saw a guy earlier who was like 2800 in shuffle 2200 in 3's

[frank knoll]

Nobody played it in PvP or PvE wondering why the nerfed it

[fierce elm]

Because shuffle is a meme bracket

even more so BGB

[copper fox]

Yea but

Astral Warlord

[fierce elm]

True lmao

[spice hornet]

Seifcham has Gladiator, so it's basically free atm

[fickle forge]

We going Astral Warlord? @fierce elm

[spice hornet]

that's usually my indicator

[copper fox]

@spice hornet my rdruid is 2.9 mmr rn

[fierce elm]

LMAO

[fierce elm]

HELL NO

[jovial torrent]

lol

[copper fox]

Yes can you guys

COME ON

FKN DO IT

[spice hornet]

im ready

[limber relic]

he says being stuck rival :x

[spice hornet]

yup

[fierce elm]

The amount of cheese graters I would fuck before even attempting 2400 in BGB can cover my country

[copper fox]

wtf

[limber relic]

"iM nOt tRyInG fOr gLad"

[spice hornet]

2400 in bgb is free, mmr starts at 2800 in there

[fierce elm]

thats the point

[sleek imp]

how does a warrior discord celebrate pride flag

[copper fox]

Jfc

[frank knoll]

Abomb limb gone

[sleek imp]

pussies

[fierce elm]

lmao

[jovial torrent]

2400 in blitz honestly wasnt so bad, but i did it a few months ago, not sure what kind of a mess it is now

[spice hornet]

its Muds fault

[frank knoll]

There’s a DR on death grip now too

[copper fox]

Who gives a fuck you weak pos we are talking about ASTRAL WARLORD

[sleek imp]

wtf MUD

[fierce elm]

ASTRAL WARLORD

[copper fox]

DK literally dead

Hilarious

[fierce elm]

Why is this mentally challenged person in #pvp of all places

[cinder sluice]

Is this a Jojo reference?

[bright kraken]

Shuffle?

[copper fox]

What is a Jojo

[fierce elm]

Shuffle is Astral Legend

And yeah, r1 there can be rough

[copper fox]

It’s honestly not hard. Play more aggressive than usual and it’s just a games played thing

[fierce elm]

But still the TIME investment

[wheat jay]

For what, bgb?

[frank knoll]

Some days the new talents look good but will 100% be nerfed in PvP before live

[copper fox]

Realistically class based too

Some classes are locked

[fierce elm]

Shuffle and BGB

[copper fox]

With ppl

[bright kraken]

Elaborate

[wheat jay]

Mehh

Season ass, skip

[bright kraken]

I would be getting it as survival

[jovial torrent]

hows the r1 shuffle work , % based or is it like just top 50 or somthing

[bright kraken]

% I believe

[wheat jay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897055819475091456/1371196570724335816/9tlhxv.gif

Enjoy this again

[fierce elm]

Slots for spec

not % based

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/grommash-sub-we-will-never-be-subbed-f2p-free-to-play-gif-24537014

[copper fox]

For example frost mage on NA

Has been the same frost mages since s1 df

lol

[fierce elm]

: )

[jovial torrent]

hehe, and ofc ppl leveling multiple of the same char to hold multiple r1 spots

[wheat jay]

Same for every spec in every ladder

[frank knoll]

The frost DK rework focuses a lot on frost scythe which nobody plays in PvP because it’s been giga nerfed forever

[copper fox]

Eh some specs change

Warrior changes a lot tbh

[jovial torrent]

need to go full meme, rank 1 brewmaster

[wheat jay]

Nah, its always same 10 people lmao

[copper fox]

There’s a lot of spots for warrior tho

[bright kraken]

@sharp meteor

[sharp meteor]

I could branch out into brewwww

[wheat jay]

Rogues too, hunters too, especially survi, there's like 20 survis at high rating and its like 4 people

[copper fox]

@bright kraken survival is probably a good shot for a new person pushing

Yea but that’ll work in his benefit

[wheat jay]

For title or to play for rating?

[copper fox]

Less people on more chars is better

[bright kraken]

👀

[copper fox]

More chars being less people is worse

[frank knoll]

It’s over

[jovial torrent]

yeh cant queue them all at same time to keep up

[copper fox]

LMFAO

[fierce elm]

How many slots is bigdam taking up atm kek

[copper fox]

20

In bgb

[wheat jay]

At least 20

[copper fox]

At least

[fierce elm]

Goddamn

[copper fox]

lol

[fierce elm]

does he not have a job

[copper fox]

Ozzy asked him on stream. He said he’s a software engineer

[sharp meteor]

alts dont take up slots

[frank knoll]

They made obliteration a capstone and then nerfed it

[fierce elm]

So he does nothing all day and queues BGB on a second monitor

[sharp meteor]

work from home it software stuff

[copper fox]

Yes

[fierce elm]

Yeah figured

[frank knoll]

If he’s a software engineeer whose still employed he’s probably autistic

[fierce elm]

Brother he has 500 Enhance Shamans

what do you think

[frank knoll]

That field was a blood bath a few years ago

[spice hornet]

i also heeard he was a university graduate who was taking a year off?

so who really knows

[copper fox]

Which makes sense based on his wow account

[wheat jay]

Ahahahhahahahahahahah

[copper fox]

Well he said this

[wheat jay]

Ahhahahahahahahahaha

Bahahahahahahahahhahaha

[frank knoll]

I used to be in cyber security
Lots of former engineers trying to before security analysts

[spice hornet]

oh wtf. thats different than the one linked earlier

[copper fox]

Jfc

[spice hornet]

its even worse

[wheat jay]

Ahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha

[bright kraken]

This the actual mount?

[wheat jay]

Sheesh brother xD

[wheat jay]

Yes. From latest post on wowhead

[copper fox]

S3 only saving grace is ASTRAL WARLORDS

[fierce elm]

ASTRAL WARLORD

[bright kraken]

This the shit I'm pushing glad for

[bright kraken]

Where did this one go

[wheat jay]

Fam i sent one from wowhead post

[fierce elm]

Into the unused asset bucket

[wheat jay]

Theres always some unused colors

[spice hornet]

idk someone linked this earlier at first

[wheat jay]

Ye

[spice hornet]

i couldnt see a wowhead one for it yet. ty

[bright kraken]

TBF the other bat isn't that bad

[copper fox]

Brb stuffing my face

[wheat jay]

All of those bats suck balls lol

[spice hornet]

they all suck but that one i linked is indeed the best of them all imo

maybe this one is an s4 mount

but i thought they said no more of those kinds of seasons

[wheat jay]

Blizz trying to discourage people from playing high rated pvp by making the rewards as ugly as possible

[sand sundial]

wheres the season 3 pvp page

[frank knoll]

All blizz wants people to do is queue delves and M+

[bright kraken]

I feel like it's all the casuals crying that the best recolours come from pvp

[wheat jay]

Ye, thats why blizz made armors 1800, from 2000, and now weapons 2100 from 2400

Soon glad will be 2100, maybe next expansion xD

[limber relic]

damn not low enough for @spice hornet

maybe xpack after that

[spice hornet]

dont worry with Methyl healing me I just might be able to break 2k

[bright kraken]

Tbf when I started 1800 was elite

[limber relic]

i doubt even cdew would be able to heal u to 2k

[wheat jay]

Its okay, he can always go off stream, private api, and get glad that way like some do

[limber relic]

#doubt

[wheat jay]

[fickle forge]

When you started, being in the 1400-2200 range was elite

[sand sundial]

do you have link for the pvp stuff coming up?

[limber relic]

he streams? show me

[sand sundial]

ngl the changes look hype

hoping dps warr has some reworks too

[frank knoll]

I remember I was stoked the first time I got 1800

I thought I was a “good” player

[wheat jay]

[limber relic]

what makes u think i hide my api tho

[jovial torrent]

finally hit 2k in wod was pretty cool, even with the multiple hours of lfg to get a couple games and a rage quitter

i made the mistake of being a altaholic tho, had like 1900 on mage war lock pala rogue

instead of just grinding one

[wheat jay]

For the sake of having a civilized conversation i shall not answer any questions of such nature

[onyx marlin]

Fixed an issue where Berserker Rage was able to remove Scatter Shot.

[limber relic]

[spice hornet]

LMFAO

[limber relic]

i mean whatever makes u sleep at night, afterall i did most of my wins on strum kekw

then again glad is free right @spice hornet

[spice hornet]

SiefCham can't handle banter

not a true warrior

[limber relic]

dont get me wrong, i love it

[copper fox]

If you play ret warr it is

But I also suck and have to play meta

[limber relic]

i didnt 😦

im lying maybe DF sn 3 i did

[copper fox]

I did

[lavish quest]

How did they manage to fuck up the fix?

Wtf are they doing?

[copper fox]

?

[lavish quest]

Whole change to "certain" incaps just so they could "fix" something that wasn't an issue?

[exotic forge]

They WHAT

[copper fox]

The hamstring change is good

[exotic forge]

Oh Hamstring change

Now make it root

[copper fox]

I wish

[limber relic]

WAIT THAT WAS A BUG?! PLS STAPH

[exotic forge]

Man, they really gave a buff to 2nd Wind as a pvp talent but it's for Prot only

Second Wind reduces your damage taken by 10% to 40%, increased by larger attacks taken. While Shield Wall and Last Stand are active, healing reductions have no effect.

[sharp meteor]

Prot gonna be okayish FC now.

[exotic forge]

Oh yeah it'll be great for FC

[sharp meteor]

Although dks and stuff gonna make like annoying.

[exotic forge]

You see the new Spellbreaker talent?

[sharp meteor]

mhm

[lavish quest]

Yes, but it should read "off gcd"

So close, but they still missed

[exotic forge]

Could be better but a good change still

[novel crater]

NO MORE HPAL HALLOWED GROUND!

[sharp meteor]

bless

[lavish quest]

Agreed, but I'm still insulted

[sand sundial]

Bro arms better 100-1 with that set

I'm praying that they release some similar talent rework in the coming days for the dps warriors

[sharp meteor]

tier nerfed by 70% instead of 50 in s3

[green wharf]

new prot talents

too bad deep wounds is a choice node with sudden death :/

this one as well, but dunno if it will be any good

[verbal tangle]

You go Haste anyway

You just mash Shield Slam + Claps

[sharp meteor]

Hmmm ye looks interesting

losing spell block but eh probably fine

[verbal tangle]

4% chance to fuck a lock out of his Chaos Bolt lol

[sharp meteor]

4% chance to negate a spell

tbc ass talent

[exotic forge]

Very up to chance, not good

But those Execute modifiers, holy

[verbal tangle]

Yeah the Prot mods are fucking wild

Literally said fuck it we ball

[prime solar]

lets get that classic wow talent that does the 3 second root lol

[spice hornet]

the cata one they gave to monks essentially?

[exotic forge]

Yes

[sand sundial]

Time to close out the season after a giga marvel rivals grind

Arms is super fotm right?

Cba playing fury

[graceful moon]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-peppo-lul-lol-gif-22663667

[wind glen]

140-160ms too much ping to be a successful warrior in arenas?

[sharp meteor]

Naw.

[exotic forge]

Oh man, Hamstring on 0.75 GCD is glorious

[green wharf]

could not be on GCD

[exotic forge]

It's better than nothing

[exotic forge]

pvp reward btw

[green wharf]

its not the glad mount

[exotic forge]

No but it is an edited version of it

[green wharf]

i mean, this one too

[spice hornet]

Mount is awful

[urban skiff]

@copper fox can't even keep his rating above enhancement shaman level

[urban skiff]

Someone tell me what's wrong with ret paladins

[boreal veldt]

it's a mental thing

[urban skiff]

One decided to attack me while I was semi afk and i kept knocking him back and slowing and rooting him etc

So I finally decided to just blend him

And he respawned on mount and spammed /laugh at me and flew off?

[boreal veldt]

for a class that follows the light, not many of them are too bright

[urban skiff]

that's actually really funny

[boreal veldt]

i have my moments

[urban skiff]

You're aight

Quick question about 2s

If you play 2s vs enhancement shaman and every time you pop a 1min or 2min cd you get hexed instantly, how long would it take to completely annoy the fuck out of you?

hypothetically

3 talent points for a sprint or interrupt immunity + casting while running every 2 minutes, and every 1 minute instant hex

[boreal veldt]

personally i expect it at this point, i've been disarmed during demo/cs this whole season, hell i'm still disarmed from when i logged off

[urban skiff]

vs a 3 min cd that stops like 4m damage and is affected by damp

starting to think bulwark isn't all that good in 2s

[boreal veldt]

but i imagine most get their jimmies rustled off the rip tbh

[urban skiff]

list of the 1 min go specs (and others) that'll get fucked over by this, off the top of my head:
rdruids whenever they pop out to stuncyclone my healer and they don't layer cc on me.
Hpals when they pop melee wings

i think that's all the 1 min specs?

the more i think about it, the funnier it sounds

i don't even care if it's stronker, just be a complete menace

[boreal veldt]

menace and putting em on tilt > most everything IMO

[urban skiff]

Plus, like i said, cc is a way better mitigation than defensives and isn't affected by dampening

get to 75% damp and just pop off with instant hex blendermode

I can see it working vs most things, maybe not hunter

with instant hex I can get all but moonkin druids every minute too

start purging his target so he gets comfortable, when he goes to stun cyclone healer i pop hex on him and lay into his dps, won't have the time to cc after coming out of that hex

I think I'm loving this

might drop the earthshield / self heal line of talents even

[low ridge]

Anyone know any streamers or people who have VODs of highlevel Arms Slayer Solos? Trying to do some homework on what I find im doing wrong and I cant find any resources

[urban skiff]

do you know what you're doing right? Maybe we can help you without you having to do a lot of homework?

[tawny crater]

any high rated warriors have a guide out for solo shuffle? for s2

[low ridge]

Well is just more positioning and trading CDs. I just gave up on pushing solos when I had mages that would just not block and shit. Ive been doing alright pumping blitz after I got passed the MMR hell that is sub 1900 ive been on a pretty consistant run for like 24ish wins to 33 losses.

I just only care about my solo rating and I tend to pick up a lot from viewing just better gameplay

But cant find people to actually watch save like an odd video here and there

[boreal veldt]

Bajheera has some good arms slayer vids posted recently

idk what you're looking for and he's not the greatest but he's a fantastic watch for how to use the fundamentals as a warr

[urban skiff]

You're on the right track, warrior is not about executing your rotation, it's about where you fight and recognizing the opportunities to push in and deal a lot of damage when they come

The more opportunities you catch and execute on, the better you perform

[low ridge]

Yeah what got me to 2100 last season within like my first year of actual PVP was it clicked that making my own kill windows is like the way for arms war. Like its there but managing sustain against this ret/caster hell has been harder than last imo

[boreal veldt]

interesting exploit lol

[low ridge]

report it, they have been banning people for it the last two weeks

[urban skiff]

That's so 2025 m8

time to move on

[urban skiff]

is why i play enhancement now

I make my own kill windows and my entire purpose is to just troll anyone until i randomly blend them without using any cooldowns

[cosmic field]

look at the damage it can do
500k dps

[urban skiff]

rogue one is completely and utterly useless

first thing it does is hard cast instant poison

[cosmic field]

slight oversight from blizz

[urban skiff]

definitely

[low ridge]

small indie company

[urban skiff]

At first I thought they wanted to prevent it from being used in pvp without a big price but it's already not at all casting stuns so that isn't it

[low ridge]

I just cant find anything that I enjoy playing other than specifically Arms Slayer im cooked

[urban skiff]

I mean I blend mages and rdruids

I make warriors angry

and then kill them

Ret? More like pink war

[green wharf]

ah yes, lovethee shuffle bugs

this was after a 20 minutes q

[green wharf]

started raining in real life then in the game too

how did blizz know?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/424976647268204545/1378486619006570557/image0.gif

[north thicket]

EU gem prices up 80-100% in 2 days, Zercher has been playing around the AH again 😄

[urban skiff]

I'm doing other stuff atm

[urban skiff]

around 3g30s per honor point

[green wharf]

[copper fox]

Ohpapa

[green wharf]

thats zerch alt im sure

[elfin surge]

[wheat jay]

wait

dh gets 25% burst on meta now

and eye beam

lmaoooooooooooo

enjoy

[fierce elm]

Artji being Artji

never change

[wheat jay]

i mean

i just read it

fuck you mean xD

[fickle forge]

That's like double damage damn

[fierce elm]

yeah

Never change man

I have never seen someone react to numbers so wildly

member when Artji said Survival would be op busted s1 tww

[wheat jay]

😄

[dense herald]

He also said thane fury would be meta

Or maybe that was someone else

[green wharf]

thane fury was meta

so it wasnt him

[dense herald]

But he said on launch

[urban skiff]

Not a bad name

[green wharf]

4 matches of shuffle today, one 5/1, one 4/2, one 3/3 and one 1/5

yet, im lower rank then i started today

isnt the game fun

[urban skiff]

bullshiiiit

[graceful moon]

Try cattleclysm

[frank knoll]

Morning Obama lovers

[urban skiff]

Is there a list of how much different corruptions are nerfed in pvp?

it feels really hard to figure out what i can expect each of them to do in pvp

[green wharf]

they just deal damage

[urban skiff]

m8, that's not the question

[green wharf]

you want for you or want to know what an enemy with then do with you

cause everyone is either running the bleed or void ritual

[urban skiff]

I want to know the damage numbers and the pvp modifiers

I think void ritual is horseshit

I'm undecided on the bleed for now

[frank knoll]

The bleed ticks for like 30k

[urban skiff]

I've seen twiilight devastation deal like 700k in arena

one of the reasons i'm curious

The only way void ritual can compete with that is if it turns a big hit into a crit with the meager crit bonus

[frank knoll]

700k still ain’t much
I haven’t done a single vision lol

[urban skiff]

700k instant damage is a lot if it happens at the right time

[lavish quest]

You realize dev hits much less often yes...?

[urban skiff]

I'm aware of how PPM works, yes

big swings matter more than little steady damage to me, tbh

[lavish quest]

"The only way void ritual can compete"

[urban skiff]

void ritual gives like 0.3% crit and haste and 0.4% vers

when it's fully stacked

the rest of the time it doesn't do anything

it's going to take a HELL of a lot of luck for it to average to more damage done than one big proc

[lavish quest]

And twilight dev gives 700k on a pet when everyone is max hp and you have no cds?

Sick trade

[urban skiff]

Is it any different from void ritual proccing while I'm in a root?

[lavish quest]

Yeah, void ritual up all the time basically kek

[urban skiff]

If I'm going to be rolling dice a lot, I'd rather roll them a little less often and have good luck mean a much bigger payout

[urban skiff]

"all the time" but people forget that it's stacking to 20 over 20 seconds

then drop off sharp

Most of the time you'll have between +0 rating and +300 rating

It would be a lot easier to be more informed on this and avoid feelscrafting if there was some solid information on their PPM, their pvp scaling, and how they choose targets

[lavish quest]

And most of the time twilight dev will do no meaningful damage?
I mean we're arguing about what flavor of doesn't matter you like

[urban skiff]

Most of the time is wild

It's a cone attack

Most of the time I'm facing the enemy I'm hitting so they'll always be hit by it

[lavish quest]

That's not up 24/7 so by definition doesn't do anything most of the time

[lavish quest]

Also... it can be dodged

[urban skiff]

the beam can be dodged?

[lavish quest]

At least if it works as it did in bfa

[green wharf]

and its only in front of you

[lavish quest]

Yeah. If you don't walk into it, it doesn't hit you

[green wharf]

and you can dodge yeah

[lavish quest]

It says a cone, but at least in bfa, you had to touch the animation

And it serpentines in front of you

[lavish quest]

Man rerolled insta

[urban skiff]

Yeah into it

something is wrong, over 5 minutes of dummy i didn't see a single proc

[green wharf]

it is how it is supposed to be

[urban skiff]

doesn't mean it's dogshit, means something is messnig with the ppm

[green wharf]

its poo

[urban skiff]

it's infinite stars, not twilight devastation

It's meant to proc a lot

[frank knoll]

What about the void tendril

[urban skiff]

haven't tried yet

I want to try the shadow collapse one

something is definitely off

radiant power only procced 5 times

[frank knoll]

The top fdk is playing tendie

[fickle forge]

So excited to farm my artifact cloak next season Blizzard

Thanks Blizzard

[rancid granite]

prob the worst one

[urban skiff]

i've seen a log where it's the killing blow

700k slap

[rancid granite]

👀

ok thats pretty legit now i want it again

even if it only slaps like that 1/100 times

lol

[urban skiff]

that's what I'm saying

void ritual might not even be there

nothing it does will win me even 1 in 1000 games

[rancid granite]

well im convinced

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-dry-heave-vomit-gross-eww-gif-3311871195309494726

ring in one patch, belt in another, now a cloak

its so bloated

[frank knoll]

They’re truly running out of ideas

[lavish quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/985520109487538247/1385239959983882313/IMG_0672.jpg?ex=685558be&is=6854073e&hm=bf894080850e32c20d9e1723987115d0a7119ca3d31bfaf70c2a0dba29b9c672&

@fickle forge

[fickle forge]

Strongest rogue mentality

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-why-are-you-gay-pepe-julian-who-is-gay-you-are-gay-gif-15004128

[frank knoll]

Sum it all up and just say Genetics
David Laid was benching 400 at age 16 natty

[fickle forge]

I would never cope

I only speak facts

It's how I know @fierce elm is only stronger than me because he does roids

[exotic forge]

Tested it too, it's not meant to proc as often in pvp

Gushing Wound and void ritual do proc often tho

[urban skiff]

Wow someone made a meme about me

[urban skiff]

yea i figured that's whats going on

Got interrupted before i could test further with pve stuff

[urban skiff]

be real, you're wearing none of them m8

just hit that autoshot button and collect your free 2400

[exotic forge]

Knowing Blizz, that cloak will be halved in pvp

Same with tier sets

[green wharf]

because i refusse to and i dont do pve anymore

[rancid granite]

pve is rough 😔

i got booted from a normal timewalking dungeon for pulling for the tank (with rogue tricks talent)

paladin healer kept emoteing me and telling me to not then i called him a boyscout and boom kicked 😔

[lavish quest]

[urban skiff]

so what's the issue? ignore it

[urban skiff]

tier sets reduced to 33%. So more than halved already

Cloak will get belt treatment and scale down to pvp ilvl without stats and be suck

WIFE FINALLY AGREED TO MAKE A MISTWEAVER MONK

WHAT RACE DO I MAKE HER PLAY AS

TO PLAY WITH ENHANCEMENT

[exotic forge]

Draenei obviously

[exotic forge]

How's timewalking feeling now

Now that they buffed it

[urban skiff]

what why?

this is mine

would be pretty cool to have a mistweaver partner who matches this truckosaurus

[exotic forge]

Uhhh nelf then

Meld op

[green wharf]

just because i dont look at shit on the ground, doesnt mean i cant smell it

[rancid granite]

was gettin like 3 levels a dungeon, and 70-80 was ~3/4 level per dungeon......... though the scaling in those 70 dungeons were kinda whack

but still fast

i don't notice any difference in anything though

[exotic forge]

Ought to run tw again to see how it feels at max level

[urban skiff]

Name?

[cosmic field]

man, i might have to level some alts in tw and just use one button rotation and controller. as afk as you can get.

[exotic forge]

Something that matches your shams name idk

[rancid granite]

shit i wish i had thought of 1 button rotation and controller

[exotic forge]

Playing wow with a controller is fun ngl

[urban skiff]

actually would any of the small races be good?

[exotic forge]

Gnome of course

[urban skiff]

lol

[exotic forge]

Escape artist + monk?

Yeah you ain't catching that little fella

[urban skiff]

could go for this aesthetic

fuck someone took it

[rancid granite]

lmao

[wheat jay]

Mw or are you a man?

[urban skiff]

It's for my wife

[sand sundial]

do yall run fatality?

[sharp meteor]

maybe

[verbal tangle]

Arms shit
expecting me to drop my off-hand

[urban skiff]

I need something that'll make people know for certain we're playing together on purpose and not randos from LFG.

I want to know we ran them over with this comp specifically

[sand sundial]

shared names

daddy & kitten

type shi

[fierce elm]

Dominatrix, Submissive

[elfin surge]

[urban skiff]

Fuck that's funny

[sand sundial]

play any hero shooter and you will see these duos

[urban skiff]

KT human named kitten

male ofc

[fierce elm]

Valorant is wild lmao

I love it

[elfin surge]

I am that duo

[fierce elm]

HER DADDY, HIS KITTEN

[sand sundial]

pocket mercy and the most medicore genji player youve ever seen

[elfin surge]

👀

[urban skiff]

i could only hope to get up to mediocre level

[urban skiff]

we actually played so much overwatch (1)

[sand sundial]

i spammed marvel rivals so much that I only see the dudes without their e-GFs atp

[urban skiff]

I'm kind of done with hero shooters for a while

[sand sundial]

i play it cuz they have some of my fav characters

since we're at the seasonal gap point nearly %50 of my guild hopped on it when i mentioned i play lol

6 stack is p fun

[exotic forge]

I play Destiny whenever there's a seasonal gap or the game's straight up dead for a bit

Same shit but, you know, FPS

[urban skiff]

ngl, this is kind of a cool name for a healer who's a peeler and short

[copper fox]

I miss peak destiny

TFS wasn’t horrible. SE was great imo it was actually challenging

The PvP tho was so bad

Mfs abusing Hunter

[verbal tangle]

So we are going to have to PvE for the fucking cloak

[urban skiff]

you don't have to get it

[verbal tangle]

I mean, Legendary stats

And its just a quest chain

[urban skiff]

ok but the belt scales down in pvp

For the first time ever, we're seeing items scale down. I'm wondering if they'll do the same with cloak

[verbal tangle]

Fyr'alath didn't scale down did it?

[urban skiff]

None of the leggos did

cyrce's circlet didn't scale down

[exotic forge]

Still is

[urban skiff]

belt scales down this time, and it doesn't even have secondary stats. And the procs are nerfed to heck and back

[exotic forge]

Game is kinda miserable rn but the pve is fun with friends

[urban skiff]

play enhancement

I'm havin' a jolly good time

[exotic forge]

I'm not talking about wow (but I do wanna play enh at some point)

[urban skiff]

ENH is fun

ah, I missed it was still destiny talk

[exotic forge]

That tier set helmet

Looks very nice

Mythic colors looks like Tier 1

[urban skiff]

got nothing on this

[verbal tangle]

can the belt be socketed?

[fickle forge]

Shaman has seen some W sets lately

[exotic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-let-him-cook-cook-cooking-breaking-bad-gif-27522167

[urban skiff]

no

has a socket

also can't put engineering stuff on it

[verbal tangle]

the socket is just a regular socket?

[urban skiff]

it's just a socket

the belt doesn't work for pvp

same ilvl as everything else and no secondary stats and the procs are nerfed

[rancid granite]

wtf

[exotic forge]

So it's bad

Cool

https://tenor.com/view/rage-keyboard-what-is-your-problem-green-smash-gif-18195947

[urban skiff]

Duh. This is why i asked to have it pinned

[open glacier]

xd

why the fuck did I play slayer

colosus is so fun

[sharp meteor]

BONK

[fickle forge]

Mistweaver player

Yikes

[open glacier]

2v2 player

[fickle forge]

Yeah you lose all points

[open glacier]

the best mode

[spice hornet]

has the new illusion been datamined

[fickle forge]

Not while MW exists

[exotic forge]

Lol. Lmao even

[wheat jay]

should be on ptr, right?

all are available in armory on ptr

in collections

[spice hornet]

ah let me check

[exotic forge]

Wasn't there from what I saw

Everything else is tho

[spice hornet]

dont see it actually

@wheat jay Apparently this is what was datamined for it

praying to God it's a placeholder

ah nvm

its this

[rancid granite]

that could be pretty awesome

[haughty jewel]

Big news guys

Im now a wow tester

Send all your gold to Flokk-Sargeras

So i can test it and make sure its working properly

[spice hornet]

flokk down bad

[haughty jewel]

I cant play anymore

ALl my dreams down the drain

[wheat jay]

ngl looks good

[elfin surge]

Flokktuah

[copper fox]

Flokktopussy

[scarlet raptor]

Do bloody tokens and honor roll over season to seaon or are they reset?

[visual plover]

I think tokens don't but honor does ?

Could be wrong I wasn't playing at the start of the patch

[fierce elm]

Honor rolls over

[scarlet raptor]

Okay so i should aim for 15k on my toons, but the bloody tokens dont matter

[rancid granite]

i mean it's still gonna be like

a long ass time til s3 isnt it

but yeah thats how it goes

[spice hornet]

i think august at a minimum

[rancid granite]

yeah aug/sept or something still a long time

not a bad goal to slowly fill all the alts with honor depending on your play time tho

[boreal veldt]

weren't you able to sell conq boxes for gold at the end of s1? it was a pretty good gold farm if i remember correctly

don't quote me

[copper fox]

Can the season just end tomorrow

[rancid granite]

i just want new tier set if it makes demo better

dropped from 2400->2100 with col; back up to 2300 👍

SHIT'S CLUNKY

but can be epic

[copper fox]

Huge

I just want to start forcing Qfiend to play bgb

[boreal veldt]

the fact that just using demo makes ms better is a buff, demo itself will probably remain in clunk city till the end of expac

[spice hornet]

Coming soon

[rancid granite]

the whole spec in general, i dunno what it is, slayer just feels more fluid

not just the demo button alone

[boreal veldt]

i run colo without clap/rend and it helps with the clunk but it's a little more troll and demands more uptime

mostly it's just about sending out juicy MS swings

[rancid granite]

i tried it and it made it even worse lmao

but improved thunderclap + full troar/bleed is being kinda legit

the added slow with imp tclap is a game changer

[boreal veldt]

i forget i run low haste high mast/crit so i have a different perspective of bleeds than most

[fickle forge]

Rate my new shuffle drink @fierce elm @wheat jay

[boreal veldt]

monke colossus 10/10

[rancid granite]

feels like you're gonna spill it

lol

[fickle forge]

It's called Kong Strong lmao

[wheat jay]

we got those in poland, apparently they taste like shit

never had one myself lol

[fickle forge]

I kinda vibe with it

[wheat jay]

palate burnt out from alcohol ;__;

[worldly oriole]

gd i just smashed upper body

like a champion

[copper fox]

How much did you bench

[worldly oriole]

185incline 3x8 pause reps lol

then 3x10 db shoulder press with 65s

[fierce elm]

they do taste like shit

[lavish quest]

Paladins won out of the sets

Thoughts?

[boreal veldt]

Pally and Lock definitely came out ahead

What a whiff with the rogue set and an ethereal theme hooooly

But i think warriors actually look dope, good difference between every color tier

spikes and chains

[cosmic field]

warrior got some roblox ass looking set

me in s3

[wanton shoal]

I need some advice. As an arms warrior, Ele Shamans are insane right now. On my balance Druid I’ll just LoS Ele shamans when they’re using a CD. But as a warrior I’m doing zero damage and creating large distance between me and him for when I come back out. My damage is garbage bc I’m LoS, or I’m out in the middle banging on him and he nukes me to death. I use Spell Reflect + Rebound, die by the sword, ignore pain, rallying cry. I even stopped using stuns and fear on healer to just slow the Ele damage down. What do you suggest? Am I forgetting an ability or talent possibly?

[wheat jay]

monk is the only not dogshit set imo

[boreal veldt]

You can stun/fear their go (make sure you kill tremor) and swap to healer. You can also reflect + destance to mitigate or parry to just trade cds

[frank knoll]

What’s the DK set look like

Ehh DK looks alright
San layn theme

Hunter looks like dungeon leveling gear

[exotic forge]

I try to force their shift to then swap healer after fearing/stunning sham

[boreal veldt]

hunter looks so bad lmao

[frank knoll]

Paladin is dope

[lavish quest]

I like the monk, but like the pally better

Monk could use actual boots tho. I get it, ooo monk, but doesn't fit

[wheat jay]

dk looks like paladin armor from dragonflight

[fierce elm]

Agree

The Elite colorway is so sick

[lavish quest]

The stuff on the shins is fine, but the sandals don't

[lavish quest]

Yes, but better

:)

[wheat jay]

ye, cuz its dk

[wheat jay]

lmao, no money for dem nikes

[north thicket]

@sharp meteor should we get hyped up about the 11.2 prot pvp?
Stuff is looking good although I am not sure why Bat Ram and Spell Block are being retired.

Comes with 2% less strength too

[sharp meteor]

Um. Not sure. The changes are like a buff to prot fc.

The rest is kind of a mixed bag?

[north thicket]

Hmm why fc?

[sharp meteor]

Likely still beans in shuff and arena outside of maybe being backpacked by a mw and ms dps.

[sharp meteor]

Stac change and new honor talent

[north thicket]

Power thru Adversity? Looking nice indeed. Also TC root is now 6sec?

What's 'Stac'?

[sharp meteor]

Stack change with flags.

Less dmg taken bigger ms.

[north thicket]

I have no fuking idea why is Enduring Defense a key node with 2p

Oh

[sharp meteor]

Root nerfed. It's longer but requires an ability used.

Like after shockwave or bolt.

Aka massively nerfed.

Dragon charge goes further but still replaces heroic leap so likely bad.

Eh.

[north thicket]

Jesus

[sharp meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/tigerking-joe-exotic-tking-gif-2157440135815247796

[lavish quest]

Might wanna get a job

[wheat jay]

haha

warrior is for people with job

that's why i play pve warrior

👍

[lavish quest]

"Warrior is for employed chads"

[exotic forge]

Can't say that when the best streamer Mud fell off

[wheat jay]

basically

find me an unemployed warrior

go on

we count streaming full time as employment tho

[lavish quest]

You may have a point given you were DH during you're unemployed era... 🤔

[wheat jay]

hmmm

actually true

you do have a point here

employment i was always warrior pve, and survi/monk/warr in pvp

roll warr to find job, best career advice

[lavish quest]

How do I roll warr harder to get better job?

[wheat jay]

cant

its like prerequisite

not like you roll better job

[lavish quest]

I need job upgrade tho

[north thicket]

Is this looking like a balanced talent to you?

[lavish quest]

We doin' alright, but we need to be ballin'

[wheat jay]

same

i got clients

and monies

but need more

and more stable

i guess it comes with time in my profession

beginnings are rough

[lavish quest]

Mage never balanced

[lavish quest]

Back alley girl?

[wheat jay]

next targeted spell is not much tho

[wheat jay]

close, insurances

oh wait 15sec cd

[north thicket]

🤣

[wheat jay]

wtf xD

[north thicket]

My guess is that devs inserted some feedback from Venruki into this talent, to promote his content

[wheat jay]

xd

they dont care

about any opinion of any pvp streamer

or player

[north thicket]

I am sure they do

[wheat jay]

no

or pvp would be fixed ages ago

[north thicket]

It's not fixed because they care selectively

[wheat jay]

no, they don't care at all

not in the slightest

[north thicket]

Blizz is still a decent company, decent American companies know marketing and network effects very well

[wheat jay]

ye

it is

[north thicket]

And they do care about their assets

[wheat jay]

but pvp sucks

0 chagnes

remains ass

[north thicket]

I am pretty sure RMP and selected few are having a blast every season

and these players think pvp is cool and balanced

the others are on the elevator

1 season up, 1 season down, whatever the fotm monkey god flips

[wheat jay]

okay but its not about fotm

but systems

and how pvp changed

into zug zug

and goes deeper into that with every new season

xD

[lavish quest]

Wow in general on life support, they just trying to keep it rolling

Hell we got like 7 versions of wow

[wheat jay]

wow is not on life supp

2.4mil characters did at least one m+

and like half of the game doesnt do m+ at all XD

[north thicket]

Imagine if they roll out Indian servers

[wheat jay]

xD

[north thicket]

5mil player base boost

[frank knoll]

Do Indians play?

[wheat jay]

tjey would lol

[frank knoll]

In NA we have to deal with Brazilians

[lavish quest]

So 200k players?

Kek

[wheat jay]

lmao nah

like a mil id assume

or half at least

[frank knoll]

Just looked it up
Indians do play, they play in Oceania

[wheat jay]

there's also 1200+ guilds that did mythic gallywix

[frank knoll]

Africans play EU, there was a South African player base
I was playing off Starlink when I was there for work on NA realms, had like 100ms wasn’t terrible

[wheat jay]

so 24k players at least did LAST boss

1sec

can check hc too i believe

[north thicket]

Oo didn't know they play in Oceania

Starlink might be a game changer really

[wheat jay]

nevermind 1300 guilds now

[north thicket]

Unsure what is the ms from Mumbai to Aussie servers

[wheat jay]

heroic there's 12k

[lavish quest]

Yeah, but their team is so much bigger to try to keep the same amount of players

[wheat jay]

so 240k players at least did heroic boss

[lavish quest]

I have a feeling less of a cash cow than it used to be

[wheat jay]

double that cuz of pugs

and that's just raiders doing AotC

[lavish quest]

That's like logging in

[wheat jay]

for us, but like 90% of the game doesnt

1sec

15k guilds did at least 1st hc boss

[north thicket]

The cash cow is going well

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/handshake-tough-muscles-gif-9593148

[north thicket]

Many people are spending on microtransactions

[frank knoll]

I was in Kenya playing on Stormrage and it wasn’t that bad so can’t be any worse

There was a dude on here who lives in Uganda
Ndogofury

[lavish quest]

I mean for sure, its all that blizz has going for it

[wheat jay]

last raid was 22k guilds with at least some attemps at eheroic

so 440k

gmae is MAD popular

super alive

[lavish quest]

All of their other franchises are in rough spots

[wheat jay]

fuckton of people play it

[north thicket]

I am slightly baffled by Microsoft, they don't seem to be making a move with Blizzard

[wheat jay]

2.7mil chars who did at least one m+

what was that webiste where you could track achievements?

[north thicket]

And it's a great asset for them, great brand, great IP

[wheat jay]

and how many ppl have it?

[north thicket]

Microsoft won't let neither Warcraft nor Diablo die

[wheat jay]

okay @lavish quest i think this is more accurate

1sec

12 and up

[north thicket]

Probably already working on World of Starcraft

[north thicket]

Unlimited resources

[wheat jay]

1.055mil characters did +12 or higher

15mil keys

[lavish quest]

And I was 100 of them

[wheat jay]

ye ye but 1.055 mil did +12 or higher

[lavish quest]

20 of those

😉

[wheat jay]

lmao

still

that's a fuckton of players

seeing how that's higher than what's required for vault O_O

2mil did +10 or higher

meanwhile pvp...

do i dare check

12k characters above 1800 in 3s

50k in solo above 1800

blits only 16k that's surprising lmao

blitz not as popular anymore?

peole sitll get 3400cr there XD

NEVERMIND one guy does XD

[worthy fern]

@wheat jay I’ve sat 30 min queues last couple times and just logged off

[frank knoll]

Cause blitz is like random BGs but more annoying

[worthy fern]

Like 2.3 mmr only

[wheat jay]

ye cuz you need 15 other people to q at same or similar cr/mmr

[frank knoll]

I wonder if it measures the # of players doing the most popular form of PvP

Unranked BGs

[wheat jay]

No

[frank knoll]

They hated him for he spoke the truth

[worthy fern]

@wheat jay talking about solo shuffle

[wheat jay]

Well, 5 apes then xD

[sleek imp]

remove raindbow flag ffs u guys are warrior not pussies

warriors*

[lavish quest]

Required for legend tho

[frank knoll]

Yeah buncha Obama lovers on here

[copper fox]

How much do you bench

[boreal veldt]

How much do you bench

[turbid snow]

What belt option is his

Bis

[fierce elm]

rainbow one

[turbid snow]

I hate u guys man

[fierce elm]

Dont ask questions then

[turbid snow]

Ur so insufferable

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[turbid snow]

Fucking butt buddies

[wheat jay]

?

[turbid snow]

U might as well hold this guys ballsack

[wheat jay]

Who the fuck are even you

[copper fox]

How much you bench

[fierce elm]

I do hold his ballsack

[turbid snow]

225

For 11

[copper fox]

LMFAO

[turbid snow]

Sometimes 9 on bad days

[copper fox]

Bruh you might represent the rainbow more than you think

Your bench is ass

[turbid snow]

I bet it’s more the. Afros

Or zecher

[copper fox]

It’s not unfortunately for you

They both bench more than you

[turbid snow]

Bench is not indicative of u being a gaff

[copper fox]

For you it is

Little man

Go play mage

[wheat jay]

Ehhh man, not the best person to diss about lifts

Quite the opposite

[frank knoll]

lol did that in highschool at 155 lbs

Afro and Zercher are euros so they can buy roids at Walgreens, def stronger than u

[turbid snow]

Euro people are gay as fuck

[copper fox]

They’re natty lol