pvp

[sharp meteor]

somehow sharpen got chopped

but they thought sham in general was fine

[fickle forge]

I hit a 2.7M Slam today as colo

[north thicket]

Imagine if WW was actually a real button and one could pick up FoB

Colo would even go Cleave

[worldly oriole]

buying a year of wow

was a cringe move

[copper fox]

I actually just 6-0 my first rsham lobby ever and I’m pissed

I don’t want mmr

I want conq boxes lmfao

[frank knoll]

Make every crate after the first one give you like 10 conquest or some shit for no reason
I wouldn’t put it past them

[copper fox]

Forged is such a cool title

That I don’t have

They owe us a banger after this prized shit

[sharp meteor]

I thought forged was neato for plate.

Idk what prized is.

Need some crusader larp title for s3 if arathi or ethereal if brokers or w/e

[green wharf]

then dont go with the bear fam, pick a panther or a tiger

or a wolf

in fact, bears are suspiciouslly sneaky in the woods

[urban skiff]

what bear?

[green wharf]

what

[urban skiff]

craft weapons or leave weapons as is?

[thick reef]

I heard we're switching to bleed build for arms? Fake news?

[urban skiff]

That's what the bleed cartel wants you to think

[thick reef]

I'll try it and see. Btw I had a mental breakdown and racechanged from gnome to void elf because I couldn't stand being a midget for another second

[urban skiff]

velf is nice

nice box spread for my hunter

[thick reef]

lucky pulls

Being a skinny elf is so much better than a dumpy gnome oml

[urban skiff]

agreed

if velf teleport still had verticality I'd play it more tbh

[thick reef]

I think the issue is that it's a damn 3 minute CD

gnome is 1

[urban skiff]

gnome has no business being 1 minute in the first place

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-disgusted-disgusted-face-zoro-luffy-gif-17201062099687357771

[thick reef]

I'm fruity and you're seething

fullset andy what u gonna do about it

This u?

[green wharf]

a proud goblin yeah

https://tenor.com/view/mike-o'hearn-gif-7678673529070379788

[urban skiff]

wait

can ww move while they use FoF ?

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/elves-chad-dwarf-gif-25266189

[green wharf]

if you mean fist of fury yes

[urban skiff]

is it a big dam power or just buffs something else that actually deals damage?

oh wait, nvm. Forgot I'm playing enh right now. Ignore FoF parry

just realized it's a perfect time to ghost wolf and just walk out

same as demolish

[spice hornet]

u can barely walk out lole th fof slow is like 90% isnt it

[hollow mist]

hey guys! for Cataclysm Classic PvP, what is the usual priority sequence when purchasing honor gear?

[green wharf]

when they can follow you

[urban skiff]

doggo can't be slowed

[boreal veldt]

oh good rend still isn't worth

[thick reef]

@boreal veldt No? what build is meta

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/president-stops-president-smiles-ominous-smile-ominous-no-answer-gif-78197234359887585

[urban skiff]

these puns

[boreal veldt]

idk, i don't like rend though

[thick reef]

Bruh I just tried rend colossus build and it felt like shit. Maybe i'm just bad tho? In solo shuffle against another arms war, I did way less dmg. Switched back to slayer build and we did identical dmg

[iron ravine]

me after rolling coin back into raid when RL says "hunter ffs get coin"

[lavish quest]

Buff woulda had to of been like 200% boof

[urban skiff]

Apparently I'm rank 22 enh shaman in 2v2

[green wharf]

there is like what, 28 playing enh on x2 on eu

soar higher

[urban skiff]

almost 400

[copper fox]

Almost gave 2.5 conq on sham and I’ll start grinding

I’m @ like 1900

Spammed ss as resto

Accidentally did well first 2 games so mmr was higher than I wanted so it’s taking longer to get conq

[urban skiff]

in shuff?

You know when you hit the goal and I have to deliver, you'll have about a thousand questions on how to set up all those addons to display the stuff right, right?

You're creating more work for yourself

[elfin surge]

@fickle forge

[copper fox]

Yea lol

[copper fox]

Addons are easy it’s fine

[urban skiff]

Downloading omnibar is easy

setting up omnibar to not be stupid is hard

[fierce elm]

@fickle forge

[urban skiff]

@fickle forge

[copper fox]

@fickle forge

[elfin surge]

Kargish? Karanze? Never heard of them.

[fickle forge]

@fickle forge

[green wharf]

@fickle forge

[urban skiff]

my wife keeps asking to do the reverse eiffel tower

what the heckin heck is that

[lost juniper]

well

isnt that some sort of threesome, ask her to bring a friend.

one in the mouth and one from behind

damn thats 2 guys, slap her back to the kitchen

[urban skiff]

isn't that just the eiffel tower?

what makes it reversed? Handstand? Buttstuff?

[lost juniper]

since its reverse interpret it as one pussy sittin on ur face while one is ridin you

your perspective of what it is thats all that matter

[cosmic field]

you should only play 2s with your wife

[urban skiff]

I think i'll tell her to stick with 2s

[lavish quest]

Just throw, ez.
All my teammates do it

[urban skiff]

It's basically a 4some in 2s where we take turns pegging each other

[cosmic field]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-sled-sand-thumbs-up-sliding-gif-17225051

[urban skiff]

that's two characters today

and methylanadwaejalkejw barely got his shaman up so far

playing rsham

[lost juniper]

my second warrior that i use for blitz is fucking stuck in elo hell, every single game i play with bots not real people im sure ofit

[urban skiff]

if there's bots on your team, there's bots on their team

[lost juniper]

the common denominator is me

guess im the biggest bot

gotta throw on some mobb deep and zug zug harder

[cosmic field]

if you AB/Gilneas you can carry pretty easy just mount up and cap bases. ppl at low rating dont even know how the timers work on ab

[urban skiff]

Be the bot you want to fight

[lost juniper]

i be getting into ctf all the time and my whole team be sittin on our FC and im alone at EFC

[cosmic field]

warr is one of the harder classes to carry on tho

[lost juniper]

but one of the only classes i enjoy

brother be having 3 paladins and 3 warriors

tried every melee but dont feel the vibe

[urban skiff]

@copper fox my list of alts is getting ever longer

[cosmic field]

yh i dont really like blitz on my warrior as it just feels rng on teams around 2k rating. maybe gets better higher but its just not competitive

chill on my rogue though

[lost juniper]

might try to do blitz on my rogue ive neglected for too long

[urban skiff]

2 war, 3 enh, sub, survival, feral, hpal, mw

[lost juniper]

alt army is nice

i tried every single class at 80

how is arms now after nerf?

[cosmic field]

i mean it should be fine but participation over 2400 took a hit

in shuffle

[boreal veldt]

it's fine, slayer is a little worse off and the rend buff doesn't really change much for colossus but we still truckin

[cosmic field]

but some ppl reroll on patch notes lol

[lost juniper]

maybe i should hop on my ally arms instead of tilting over blitz

[urban skiff]

many rerolling dk so the average skill of remaining players will go up

[cosmic field]

is dk actually good after buffs?

[lost juniper]

ended up in gilneas, tried to carry capped 4 times but holy shit the team rotate so god damn slow we lost

[urban skiff]

dk main issue was survivability and they just had their only survivability doubled

and then got big dam buffs on top

oof

[boreal veldt]

i hate having this buff then randomly get dismounted from flying because of a bounty

[urban skiff]

I keep getting it

idk why

[boreal veldt]

doin the lord's work killin gnomes

[boreal veldt]

incredible

[urban skiff]

definitely not credible

being a rogue helps a lot

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-disgusted-disgusted-face-zoro-luffy-gif-17201062099687357771

[green wharf]

no

[cosmic field]

[urban skiff]

correct, it's not good. It's great

seen at least two streamers so far showcase amazing burst and they hid their ratings so you know it's legit OP

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

worst melee in the game

[cosmic field]

my thoughts on death strike buffs:

[urban skiff]

I'm loving this

means you won't disarm my burst

[green wharf]

what burst

[cosmic field]

ok

woah there discord, chill out with the icon sizes

are you ele or enh?

[urban skiff]

enh always

[urban skiff]

haven't met a rogue yet who didn't buckle 3 seconds after running out of overlapping defensives

[sharp meteor]

can relog to clear that

but retain 15% dmg buff

[spice hornet]

Lol

[haughty jewel]

the change was good

execute is rly nerfed now tho

doesnt hit above 3mil anymo

so ur not getting random cheese oneshots

which is good

it got rid of all the noobs

[urban skiff]

you should hit me with it

I've been hit by 5.5m so 15% will only take around 1m off

[fierce elm]

15% of 5.5m is 3m

smh

[urban skiff]

oh shit, i forgot

warriors are the peak of math

[frank knoll]

Warrior is now the worst melee in the game lmao

[urban skiff]

Flokk when do you queue 2s on EU

[frank knoll]

Besides my class DH

[fierce elm]

Flokk is asia server

[urban skiff]

worse than DK?

[frank knoll]

DK is OP
Don’t let them gaslight you

[urban skiff]

Good thing I'm enh

will never lose to a warrior

[frank knoll]

The only good warrior I’ve faced is that Franziskaner guy

[urban skiff]

Are warriors even good

[frank knoll]

Grimgrip is also good but I haven’t seen him in a long time

[urban skiff]

Name a good enh shaman who isn't famous

I want to say nøname

[frank knoll]

Chicago is good on enhance

[haughty jewel]

the thing is it's 15% pre-modifiers so the nerf to top end execute dmg is far higher than 15%

[urban skiff]

not how modifiers work

[fierce elm]

its 1m damage now

[urban skiff]

skip execute and start slammin'

might as well roll over and give up or play SMF THANE

[haughty jewel]

u need fatality now

fatality wasnt nerfed.... this is big for warrior

i miss 40-0ing people man

:/

sighs

[urban skiff]

you should play enh

[copper fox]

GUYS IS FURY BETTER THAN ARMS NOW AFTER THE PATCH

DO I USE VOID RITUAL

HASTE GEMS?

[urban skiff]

@haughty jewel basically what you're asking for

[fierce elm]

Im convinced Flokk is fucking blazed out of his mind 24/7

[urban skiff]

Wouldn't you be too if you played warrior ?

[fierce elm]

He shitposts way too much for someone who is sober

[copper fox]

Just don’t leave fury and it’s gg

[haughty jewel]

i think smexxin doent like playing fury

so he killed it at the top end

by nerfing slaughterhouse

it doesnt effect the nooby noobs

but it killedi t in high arena

[fierce elm]

yeah

[haughty jewel]

fury is likely dead for the next 2 xpacs unless they change its ms

type shit

[copper fox]

Type shit

[urban skiff]

he's making sense lol

[copper fox]

ss spec only

[urban skiff]

fury is dead

[spice hornet]

Type sh

[cosmic field]

guys what should i spec in to slam or execute

[copper fox]

Slam type shii

[fierce elm]

Yeah but he is also 90% shitposting

[urban skiff]

Am i misunderstanding rogue, can I not stealth while shadowdancing?

[fierce elm]

lmao

[fierce elm]

No

[cosmic field]

this video is why addons are getting banned

[urban skiff]

my soulmate

[sharp meteor]

idk how they could do it but i wish specs had their own 2s or 3s ladder

same with keys

feels bad when its like hey man literally no reason to play this spec anymore soz

[fierce elm]

I wish WoW was deleted

the servers burnt to a crisp

[copper fox]

Same

[fierce elm]

Everything gone

All the years of progress dead

[sharp meteor]

q into legi tlike 2 unholy dks a season because the spec is just ass

[haughty jewel]

Broe

[fierce elm]

Guilds? Gone. Transmog? Gone.

Your titles that you spent months on? Gone.

[prime solar]

i'd be fine with that.

[urban skiff]

I need this interface

or the feral version

[fierce elm]

Delete it all

[sharp meteor]

if hots been alive despite no update for years

[fierce elm]

GET RID OF IT ALL

[sharp meteor]

idk if wow ever goin offline

[fierce elm]

I dont mean no updates

[sharp meteor]

i queued with him and he targted me and asked why his warr was an animal

[spice hornet]

The boomer target reticle addon

[fierce elm]

I mean fully delete remove m

[copper fox]

Lmfao

[urban skiff]

it's D2 and D3 are testbeds for how blizzard will "shut down" games

Also overwatch 2 testing how player base responds to converting game engines

[copper fox]

Games don’t die

Only we do

Think about that

We will all die before these blizzard servers do

[fierce elm]

Wildstar died

[cosmic field]

this is getting pretty philosophical for a warrior dc

[copper fox]

Blizzard *

[fierce elm]

lmao

[haughty jewel]

warrior nerfs wont get me down

[cosmic field]

that looks pretty moreish

[urban skiff]

Wildstar was stillborn

[copper fox]

Huge

[cosmic field]

i bet arena and meth go together pretty well

[haughty jewel]

ive played arenas on adderal

very good

very very good

[cosmic field]

locked tf in

[spice hornet]

I love this

[sharp meteor]

casually pve for a few months get perscribed stim play 100 rounds of shuff in a day hrm

[pastel swan]

Is that m3th

[lost juniper]

amphetamines and gaming goes well together

[sharp meteor]

its weird to like not rly feel different but also actually

kind of get stuff done

[fierce elm]

crack

[pastel swan]

Oh thank god

[lost juniper]

haha, crack lasts how long compared to amphetamines?

[fading viper]

what build should i play? seems to be a couple different versions

[urban skiff]

Amphetamines are better

[haughty jewel]

adderal is an amphetamine

[urban skiff]

it's a mix, right?

[haughty jewel]

depends on which one u get

but ya its an amphetamine

i beleive all of it is amphetamine

[spice hornet]

Yeah adderall is just. A brand

I don’t know anyone who gets actual adderall brand. All my friends get some generic amphetamine salts. I have not seen an adderall since like 2010

[haughty jewel]

dextroamphetamine is the good one

adderal mixes d and l amphetamines

if u get just d its mainly only mental side effects and low physical

so ur grindset becomes insane

[spice hornet]

No wonder the adderall hit diff then the salts

I have not had it in a long time

[urban skiff]

was going to say the same thing

[haughty jewel]

L Amphetamine literally just jacks up your heartrate and gives you anxiety

its dumb and pointles

but iguess for some lazy asses it helps them getu p and feel more alive or something

[urban skiff]

which one is elvanse?

[haughty jewel]

d amphetamine

[urban skiff]

and is that dumb or good?

[haughty jewel]

thats the good one

it takes away the clean your whole house vibes

and makes it so youre more locked in mentally

good for computer work

or gaming

l amphetamine is good for cleaning your whole house or even lifting

[urban skiff]

It's funky but i swear it's like I both feel stronger when lifiting but also less motivated

it's like elvanse broke whatever in my brain felt good about lifting

[urban skiff]

what do i put in the text field to make weakaura do math for me?

[haughty jewel]

ask chat gpt

always help

[urban skiff]

it's just hallucinating a button that doesn't exist..

[fierce elm]

wins to cap

w h a t

[urban skiff]

it's dumb

i just want to know how many crates left but I'm not going to tell it that

[lost juniper]

lift on a drug thats a vasoconstrictor? uff we playing dangerous game.

[fierce elm]

Well there is no cap

so thats an issue

[urban skiff]

7700 is the cap

it's what it takes to buy a full set

[fierce elm]

128.33

for full cap

[urban skiff]

well it's less, since you need at least one win in instanced content to get your heraldry quest

[fierce elm]

102.08

with no neck+rings

[urban skiff]

no

7700 is with the neck+ring removed

and weapons

[fierce elm]

so 128.33

[urban skiff]

yes

[fierce elm]

then one win in a BG is what

40 conq?

50?

[urban skiff]

125 epic bg

[fierce elm]

Yeah

so minus two crates

[urban skiff]

375 if you REALLY win ashran

[fierce elm]

so 126.33

crates

[urban skiff]

epic bg wins guarantee heraldries

[fierce elm]

• an epic bg win

[urban skiff]

but I did all this math already

I just want a weakaura that tells me how many more crates i need

[fierce elm]

I would prefer to not see that number ngl lmfao

[urban skiff]

I'm down to 22 crates

[fierce elm]

idk how you do it

Also

it can become way less

or way more

: )

[urban skiff]

my current crate group has been mine since like 10 this morning

[fierce elm]

If you just GAMBLE it

[urban skiff]

I gambled on my hunter

[fierce elm]

Especially on an alt that has no gear

ez pz

[urban skiff]

I got 4 pieces + weapon

tier pieces*

went from like 7700 to cap to less than 4k

actually i got two weapons, both ranged and polearm

or staff or w/e

[copper fox]

I’ve just been buying full honor then qing ss / bgb

And placement 2s

Instant gear

Way faster than crates

[urban skiff]

It's not about fast

it's about putting in more work to avoid less work

You don't have ADD you wouldn't get it

[copper fox]

We all have that lmfao

[urban skiff]

If you don't make it your entire identity, do you really have it?

people think i do crate farm to get conq without pvp'ing

but secretly I do it to beat 39 other people in a race to a specific place

and they don't even know they're losing every time

OOF

[uneven trail]

What are the most important stats for Slayer Fury Warrior?

[spice hornet]

The respec arms stat

[copper fox]

It’s a prot angle moving forward ngl

[urban skiff]

stacking

[urban skiff]

more prots please

easier to farm than arms

can't spell farm without arm(s)

[cosmic field]

i was playing skirmishes with a prot pali before, all the top ones on murlok are his. im sure he's the only prot pala

like to get 2600 rating you need to better than 10 other ppl or some shit

maybe prot is the play...

[urban skiff]

m8

prot pala is the supremely most popular choice for boosting

and wintrading

definitely he doesn't have all the prot palas

[haughty jewel]

gotta take cialis to counteract it

[spice hornet]

[exotic forge]

What's everyone using for corruption

[north thicket]

Is it an awfully stupid idea to play Fury without Onslaught but rather OF nowadays?

Also unsure if Unbridled Ferocity is just a point trap, 6% is a rather low proc chance

[elfin surge]

Skill Capped 📉

[urban skiff]

i'm sorry what?

[urban skiff]

upset you aren't a writer for them?

[elfin surge]

LOL

[north thicket]

Skill Capped are b(i)ased.

[elfin surge]

I could be

[urban skiff]

They got cdew so it's safe to say they'll take anyone

you should ask 🙂

[elfin surge]

no

[urban skiff]

"Hey Mud wants to be a writer for skill-capped, can you DM him?"
"Mud who?"

[elfin surge]

They use my content in their vids already breh

[urban skiff]

haha

yeah I'm just playin'

because i tried to show my wife I talk to someone famous and then couldn't find you on the ladder

I'm not upset about that at all

[elfin surge]

famous lmao

smoke and mirrors man

[urban skiff]

I'm pretty famous too

rank22 enhancement in 2v2 EU

[north thicket]

Jesus, Zercher are you "impressing" your wife by talking with someone online about a game?

[urban skiff]

if it works it works

[north thicket]

:))))

[lost juniper]

amphetamines constrict your bloodvessels, so your heart will have to work much harder to be as effective.

[urban skiff]

Is that why I'm running out of breath when trying to train on elvanse?

why is that dangerous?

[spice hornet]

Heart attack?

[urban skiff]

isn't heart attacks caused by the heart itself not getting enough blood?

Pretty sure my psychiatrist would have mentioned not to train while taking amphetamines. He cared a lot that I'm a bulky man but drilled into me not to drink soda or anything with vitamin-C an hour before and after taking the pills

[copper fox]

So does being fat

[sharp meteor]

Reading about the potential negative side effects (sudden death) of the pills I took a few minutes ago

[copper fox]

Lmfao

(Same)

[fickle forge]

Yep, goodbye shuffle healing

[lost juniper]

I'm right at home I can clearly see that now

[spice hornet]

🤮

[lost juniper]

in simple terms, yes. but you can overstrain your heart from using uppers and working out.

[lost juniper]

If you have a psychiatrist this is information you should give him/her and do a echocardiogram while you are working out (arbetsekg) in swedish

[sharp meteor]

Ye, that might be cause for concern LMAO

[lost juniper]

Amphetamines in some people also have a tendency to lead to anxiety, it could just be anxiety while your working out. the body is complicated but you should really check it out, i've lost my breath due to anxiety on elvanse

[urban skiff]

I mean I get wellness checks yearly and EKGs too

But not while working out

[lost juniper]

a normal EKG wont show anything if it happens while you work out

[urban skiff]

Also get a DEXA scan, bloodworks and something to do with my liver or kidneys?

[lost juniper]

need to pedal like crazy on a bike in the hospital for 30minutes during ekg to be sure its nothing harmful (which it most of the time isnt) but with the heart you shouldnt take chances

when i was younger(in my 20s) i took steroids and worked out on elvanse and overstrained my heart, had to rest for almost a year and had my lifes worst experience

[urban skiff]

I'm only getting elvanse and test

[copper fox]

I’ve been trying to OD on stims during workouts for years

[lost juniper]

weak genetics maybe i dont know what happened

[copper fox]

It’s not working

Pissed

[lost juniper]

more trenbolone

[urban skiff]

finally rogue done

[lost juniper]

dedication lol

crates?

[urban skiff]

Yea

but i've also been doing them on my survival and my feral

[lost juniper]

ive done it on two chars man it was hell for me, i dont have alot of patience

[urban skiff]

survival needs around 1k more to be done

feral needs 3k but i've done like 3 crates on it, rest was just playing

[merry cove]

How do i make my screen look like this wtf hahahaah

[urban skiff]

there's also some gold to be made doing crates

[lost juniper]

are u for real

i vendor that shit

[urban skiff]

you vendor 800-50k gold?

lol

I've sold many of these for 50k a pop

and 30k

[lost juniper]

yeah obviously i lack the intellectual capacity to swing by the AH and check it out

[urban skiff]

it's the cheap ones that don't sell, for obvious reasons

[lost juniper]

i gotta log on and see if i saved some

in sha allah i have some layin in my bag

[frank knoll]

I knew a guy who had a heart attack off one scoop of C4

[copper fox]

Lucky

[urban skiff]

did his heart explode?

[lost juniper]

i can always try and retrieve some sold items thru blizzard

[frank knoll]

It was when I was in the Army
We were doing a ruck

He didn’t die

[sharp meteor]

I think I drank two bangs or c4s at one point and actually htought I was gonna have a heart attack

[frank knoll]

I’ve taken in like 500 mgs of caffeine a day for over a decade and I’m fine

But some people are hyper sensitive

[lost juniper]

mix it with taurine and u can push those rookie numbers way way up without negative effects

almost like a mild amphetamine rush

[frank knoll]

Hmmmm

Noted

[sharp meteor]

I just hadn't exercised or eaten anything which is why I felt awful.

[lost juniper]

always good to know that taurine can counteract some negative jittery effects from caffeine if u happen to take alot more by accident

[sharp meteor]

I'll have like one monster sometimes didn't notice the other drinks had like double the caf

[frank knoll]

I wonder if AWC teams get blitzed on Adderall before they play

[sharp meteor]

Is wow really that kind of game

[lost juniper]

would be nice if someone had a panic attack due to the adrenaline+adderall

[sharp meteor]

Like I guess I'm on a low dose but stims don't rly make me play better they just make me wanna play.

[frank knoll]

All of the info you have to instantaneously process and react too
On top of that you’re playing good players

[sharp meteor]

90% of arena is like knowledge and awareness and prior stuff

not rly reaction

[frank knoll]

I’m sure people take all of the help they can get

Esp if there money on the line

[lost juniper]

yeah i would and i dont even like uppers

[sharp meteor]

i remember id queue into thie one chinese team that was rly slowe about everything they did reactively but in terms of like macro use of cds and kiting and w/e it made the lack of reactivitynot matter

[frank knoll]

I took adderall during BfA to do horrific visions

[sharp meteor]

huh

[frank knoll]

Yeah with all the masks

[sharp meteor]

u could like solo visions with 2 afk buyers

[frank knoll]

I just wanted to get them done really fast

[sharp meteor]

like i just did 8 mask run with 2 orbs left with third used right before thrall with an almost full sanity bar

and i was like snackin in my run

cos its not rly a race

its where you use stuff and where you go or w/e

[frank knoll]

I was a lot worse at the game back then lol

[sharp meteor]

its like the meme about being dumb faster

watching a friend play and hes like 500 apm

and every keystroke is wrong

[lost juniper]

arthitis

arthritis

[sharp meteor]

ya i had shooting hand pain in cata so i changed my keyboard habits and been fine since

[frank knoll]

I was a fury warrior main back then
Trying to PvP as fury

[lost juniper]

i had to change my habits too but now my right hand keeps getting a ganglion on it whenever i play alot

[sharp meteor]

there are instances in which spam can be good or fine like if u reaching for cc on somebody first like going in for hoj

[lost juniper]

gotta smash it like once a month

[sharp meteor]

but we have spell queue now on rotational

500 apm does same dmg at 50 apm

this has been the case since like

mop

back in like cata or w/e u had a gap between buttons so spamming was legit op

[lost juniper]

ive played since vanilla and i didnt even know we had it

[sharp meteor]

so u know when u press a button after another and

sometimes it like goes off if you press something else

[lost juniper]

i legit think im a bit after intellectual sometimes lol

yeah i get it

[frank knoll]

Yeah I used to freak out spamming buttons and running around my opponent in circles

[sharp meteor]

lets say you rampager into execute then spam bolt

but you execute

[frank knoll]

Realized I don’t really need to do that anymore

[sharp meteor]

this is what cqs is

cancels ur next queued ability

[lost juniper]

ahh

ive noticed it

[sharp meteor]

which is why sometimes mashing feels unrespknsive

if ur high haste or w/e

[lost juniper]

gonna try mash a little less next time i do ss

[sharp meteor]

i use bolt as example because if you have a queued ability itll sometimes go off first and you'll be like aaaa i was in global

but you kind of werent you just had another abilty already set to cast

its not like giga huge but def a subtle thing

[lost juniper]

this will most likely be healthy for my wrist

[sharp meteor]

but its why theres minimal or no gap between abilities without extreme spam

ya

[lost juniper]

nice man i appreciate this info haha

[sharp meteor]

prior to mop or whenever they added it you had to actually giga spam

and you could get like

5-10%+ more casts

so you'd just passively crush people

with more casts

idr the script that shows your threshold but some people i recall had theirs set to 400

so you'd actually nerf your dmg

inversely a lot of people learned of this and turned their window to 0

which meant unless ur a literal bot it will be a dps loss

cos no qing

anyways

keep your wrists and tendons safe friends

[lost juniper]

definetly something i should have been atleast noticing enough to start google if there was a queue lol

but this is great since i have some issues with my wrist

[sharp meteor]

last seas my hands kind of hurt and i ended up playing like 8% haste fury with powerful enrage

which ended up actually feelin great cos every global was like 25% of a dudes health

[lost juniper]

im gonna log on in 20min and try it on a training dummy and check it out

[urban skiff]

literally me

[urban skiff]

just how high haste? Even at 100% haste I don't feel that on my shaman

[sharp meteor]

sometimes just gotta slow down

[urban skiff]

but might just be my head is literally as laggy as the game

I mean I win arenas but I can't explain how or why

[sharp meteor]

erm not sure i just know i start to have issues in lust with like 40% base haste on fury if i dont play powerful

[urban skiff]

I'm pretty sure the one game where the arms went sudoku the enemy team could visually see how stunned I was over getting a kill

[urban skiff]

I swear I remember having 130%+ haste in fury at one point in pve

[lost juniper]

its bcuz biggus mcdickus u know

[urban skiff]

I'm enhancement

[lost juniper]

so you have enhanced pp

[urban skiff]

There's no explanation for wins

What's the opposite of enhanced?

I have a modified pp

[lost juniper]

disenhanced? hahaha

my english is way to bad to know

i have not met many enh that crush though

[urban skiff]

I mean i win because of pure luck and being carried by my wife

[lost juniper]

what is wife for if not for carrying their husband ❤️

[urban skiff]

this is my current favorite kill at 2k mmr

[lost juniper]

i guess we need to nerf another 15% to arms execute , can see he almost beat u

[urban skiff]

He beat me on damage and be even stole my kill

[lost juniper]

is enh alot of apm? its the only melee i didnt check out

[urban skiff]

no clue

I have this weakaura but I don't ever look at it when the info i would want is there

[sharp meteor]

its useles

[urban skiff]

But I can say this, I can hit the GCD cap if there's a pet team

[sharp meteor]

means nothing

[lost juniper]

enh is kinda supportish so maybe it will suit me

[sharp meteor]

me on prot

[urban skiff]

I think apm alone isn't the big deal, it's whether the next action is predictable or depends on the result of your current action

And in that regard, enh is a bit of a nightmare but not really thanks to some talents

Like I can get MSW refund on a lightning bolt / tempest which naturally means I'd want to cast another one, but after doing a lightning bolt I generally queue up a stormstrike. Usually that's bad, but at least in pve the advice is to still do a stormstrike even if MSW capped if you got the MSWcap from refund

Idk, it's a lot of words and I don't read

[lost juniper]

ive been a bit skeptical due to juggling with totems alone

[urban skiff]

I don't really use my totems

[lost juniper]

but i dont have a wife to carry me

[urban skiff]

we just use PI with bloodlust

And then we're back to "I'm being stupid but I'm stupid really fast"

[lost juniper]

some insane burst though

haha

if i find time over i will gear my shaman

[urban skiff]

one of the rare kills where I've actually used cooldowns to kill

[lost juniper]

what rating is it?

[urban skiff]

still around 2k mmr in 2s

might be 1950 mmr

[lost juniper]

rarely use cds to kill seems like its a fun 2s combo u play

[urban skiff]

This is the match i linked

and the top one is the one that got her to 1950 CR, which is 1) better than I've ever achieved in 2v2 and also her best ever

[lost juniper]

you should feel lucky man, im a bit jealous

[urban skiff]

this is a match where my ascendance ended below the red line

enh is super fun, and that's all i care about

[fickle forge]

What a cursed world

[urban skiff]

is this good or bad?

[boreal veldt]

is this good or bad?

[urban skiff]

I just want the kids out of the house so we can play without being suddenly interrupted by crying kids right in the middle of 70%+ dampening

[fickle forge]

Ya'll don't see what he's casting?

[lost juniper]

Hahaha, arena > kids, nothing can come close to the thrill of pvp in wow

[boreal veldt]

incredible to decline someone an entire pvp talent

i got my purple bike and just logged out until end of season push

[urban skiff]

I don't understand

[fickle forge]

You aren't supposed to cast it

[urban skiff]

isn't he playing 69d chess by hardcasting it to bait kicks so he can freecast cyclones?

[fickle forge]

They share school

And he got kicked on it

[urban skiff]

maybe he just really badly wanted to cast starfire?

[sand sundial]

I can't decide what I should play for honor run

No cheese

[urban skiff]

theme builds like me? or just builds in general?

[sand sundial]

I do like thematic things more in general

None of that 10 bard 1 pala yada yada 1 shot shit

[urban skiff]

How do you feel about the trick to get a permanent shadowblade?

[sand sundial]

Nah

I won't do the astral sword/Raphael either

[urban skiff]

You can still do this build without, you'll just have to do specific shit to get arabella's ring and then be stuck with the ring

[frank knoll]

There was a dude on here who gave up his family basically for PvP

[urban skiff]

Full send Way of the Shadow, shadowblade mainhand, plus the thingy that gives psychic damage vuln

[frank knoll]

Name was Bruin
He would crash out a lot
It was funny

[urban skiff]

if that doesn't tickle your fancy, how about trying out the classic 3e prestige class: blackguard

[fierce elm]

I miss Bruin

[urban skiff]

it's a heavy armor wearing thing that swings a 2h weapon but deals sneak attacks

[sand sundial]

I was thinking shadow sorcerer, ranger/fighter or necromancer

Very basic ik

[urban skiff]

Larethian's wrath early game, late game dancing breeze

[urban skiff]

tbh death domain cleric 12 is fun as heck

[sand sundial]

Maybe it's just Hexblade again...

[sand sundial]

What

[urban skiff]

Can go shadow sorc 1 death domain 11 if you want a bit more flavour

[sand sundial]

Ye I tried that it is

[urban skiff]

EK12 is more fun than hexblade12 so far. Granted I always nerf my companions over my durge

[urban skiff]

there's paladin 6(/7) rest into war cleric too

it doesn't sound like it'll work but it does

[sand sundial]

I tried this items mod, forgot it's name but it's front page on mods you should check it out

Adds bunch of decent loot to the game for you to find

[urban skiff]

still playing modless until i have all achievements

[sand sundial]

For all types of builds

[sand sundial]

Fair

[urban skiff]

my next restriction will be to mimic attunement

max equip 3 blue+ items with names

everything else has to be mundane or unnamed

[sand sundial]

Interesting idea lol

[urban skiff]

But if you want ranger, you should do a beast master ranger with heavy armor, crossbow expert, sharpshooter, who walks into battle next to his pets and just shoots people point blank

I have no idea if it works but it sounds fun

[sand sundial]

I wanna do something based off Aragon if I do ranger

Melee ranger

Not optimal at all probably lest I run some gimmick sword

[urban skiff]

stranger is kind of cool

if you can access shillelagh somehow you'll be the belle of the ball dualwielding torches for a long time

You can do astarion origin as a vampire build

Spore druid astarion, pick only spells that match vampire abilities. Almost everything spore druid gets for free or can access via druid makes sense from a vampire point of view:

Can turn into a mist, can turn into wolves, can read minds, raise the dead, can summon a fog, can charm and command beasts, curse contagion confusion

enhanced body: Jumping, running, literally enhanced ability
Conjure elemental is strong but requires strong flavour: You raise the soil from a grave

[green wharf]

i uninstalled bg3, game is fucking heavy

and got me divinity2

will try out when i dont have internet

[green wharf]

does shattering throw removes blessing of protection

[copper fox]

@fierce elm

[sharp meteor]

ye or at least it used to

bop bubble block

[fierce elm]

it does

[fierce elm]

optimal

[green wharf]

misssing a little bit of cheese

[green wharf]

good, cause 18 seconds of immunity against a paladin is fucking shite

he still lost though

[copper fox]

CHEESE lol

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-dance-cheese-dance-cheese-dancing-cheese-boogie-gif-9435373478393637116

[verbal tangle]

2100 is enchant appearance right?

[fierce elm]

y

[worldly oriole]

enchant is dogchit

[fierce elm]

is this how you answer people irl too lmfao

"Hey where is the toilet?"

"Toilet is dogshit"'

[prime solar]

@fierce elm

[copper fox]

So are you

[green wharf]

from pvp enchant is 1950, weapons are 2.1

[fierce elm]

god I fucking hate that they changed it

and now I don't know which is which

but that is correct

1950 is such an ugly reward rating

[green wharf]

it should be something for each hundread, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8 and so on

but then you get 1950 then 2100 and only something at 2.4

[verbal tangle]

yeah its tabard at 2.4k as well as competing for top 0.1% in bracket titles

[worldly oriole]

the enchant wouldve been better if it was literal white dogchit

Mr. Hankey tmog

[sharp meteor]

It's 1950 and elite weaponry is 2100.

[verbal tangle]

weps is 2100?

[sharp meteor]

Yer.

As of Forged.

[verbal tangle]

noicu

[spice hornet]

They needed to make that reward more free than it was with blitz existing

[sharp meteor]

wonder if blitz mmr gets nuked next seas

figured for sure it'd go this season

first game on warr was 2900 or som

[urban skiff]

it's 50/50

[urban skiff]

what's the reason so many sub rogues are using conq pieces for tier slots instead of crafted? Are they getting a bit more vers or is it just prep in case 4set gets necessary?

[urban skiff]

welp, a bit of stat DR is fine

[urban skiff]

remember next season has "seasonal rewards overhaul", might be lucky that it includes pvp

[sharp meteor]

i mean that prob is the usual

new raid set new pvp sets new glad drake new vicious mount more elite sets etc

[urban skiff]

would be pretty cool if they updated pvp and pve ratings to be equivalent in skill level according to ladder position somehow.

I hope we get a renown track for pvp rewards, and stop ratings entirely from being a thing and instead award people a position on the ladder and put them in different leagues based on that position

how fast one unlocks renown track depends on what level on the ladder you're playing on, whether it's elite or rival2 or w/e

Next opportunity for them to mess with the rewards/ratings system is in like 8-12 years if they don't take the opportunity now

[jovial torrent]

it would probably be way healthier for the game if it was a renown track, with higher rating speeding up the track a little, then just have % based titles

[cosmic field]

that and a solo queue option for 3s that just puts you with a group

[jovial torrent]

add a repeating reward at the end of the track which is a old elite set token to let you buy 1 old set

[sharp meteor]

a non ranked reward track would go crazy ya

all casual pvpers have to grind is conq gear lol

[jovial torrent]

i was thinking how blizz could f it up but it could actually be good

i was thinking that +3 ilvl per track would be bad

but would it actually be worse than current gearing if there were 2 colours of the pvp set on the track, and increasing the track gave +3 ilvl

would be a bit of a mess mid season tho since alot of ppl farm conquest for ilvl outside of pvp through crates and daily/weekly rewards

[sharp meteor]

Ilev is all people want ya

[urban skiff]

Stop, i can only get so erect

[fierce elm]

Raw damage output is what matters

[urban skiff]

So how much better is mastery than vers? Because i DR10% the mastery but it's only 130ish rating i'm losing.

If that's still fine then going crafted would give more damage per point

Except this is damage buckets all over again, so vers and mastery needs balance to maximize the buckets

[fierce elm]

a lot iirc

its the same with assa

[fickle forge]

I would like for blitz to get nuked next season

[urban skiff]

Why?

[fickle forge]

I dislike seeing people have fun

[urban skiff]

Fair enough

I too had a grumpy man phase when i was 19

[fickle forge]

But I would like to get shuffle nuked cause I wanna do the world a favour

[urban skiff]

I just want to play without playing job interview with people who dont have jobs

[fickle forge]

Maybe i got privileges or something

But I just sign up and Q

[wheat jay]

Sign up, put 2.5k xp in the note

Q

[urban skiff]

High exp privilege

[fickle forge]

Do what Artji says

I baited our healer in by claiming Artji had glad xp when it was his first season

Now he heals us every day

[urban skiff]

He's also routinely getting banned so who lured who in? 🥴

[fierce elm]

Use someone else's account as your xp note

"ALT ACCOUNT"

[copper fox]

Woke up 2 spots higher on the ladder without even having to q. We love that

[fickle forge]

Now to be fair

That only happens when he plays shuffle

And after healing shuffles, I completely get why tbh

I rage quit a lobby yesterday cause I'd have gouged my eyes out otherwise

[cosmic field]

everyone i play with has sinful glad mount, was that easy af to get or some shit?

[fickle forge]

For the first half of the season it was

For the second half, nope

[cosmic field]

mmr got deflated?

[fickle forge]

They nerfed it mid-season yeah

It's why it's called the sitful gladiator rank 1 title

Everyone in range after the MMR nerf just sat the rest of the season and got rank 1

[cosmic field]

ahaha glad I got that lore

[fierce elm]

yes

It's the equivalent of getting 2.4+ in blitz rn

[fickle forge]

You're talking about unchained

[fierce elm]

no

I am claiming both

[green wharf]

another reason why shadowlands was shit

[fickle forge]

The first half of sinful was pretty inflated true true

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-plan-coping-kid-the-kid-is-coping-gif-26280717

[urban skiff]

Everything is righty tighty then suddenly it turned into righty loosey and shit went downhill fast

[hot solstice]

Ye what’s better super inflated ssn with high participation. Or deflated ssn with dead 3s?

[fickle forge]

Now hear me out

% cutoffs

So it doesn't matter

Give glad at 1600 if that's T0.5%

[fierce elm]

Now hear me out

delete 3s

give glad mount to blitz and SS

finally kill off pvp

or rather 3s

[hot solstice]

I dont care as far as I don’t have to sit in lfg looking for ppl for 2h

As far as I don’t have to face same 3teams above 2k mmr each evening

[fickle forge]

Wish we still had luduslab so we could see ladder distribution

[urban skiff]

better for what? If you want highest possible rating or most fun matches?

[hot solstice]

In general

[urban skiff]

you learn most by playing the most deflated bracket, you'll get to play against better opponents and have more learning opportunities

[fickle forge]

That's not really true though

Deflating just affects your mmr

Doesn't matter if you Q into Whaazz on 2.4k or 3.2k

[urban skiff]

deflation would reduce the difference between you and better players

if you're not literally on their level, you'll have a shorter distance to them and an easier time playing with them

[green wharf]

give glad to anyone who plays 500 rounds of solo shuffle or 100 blitz games, regardless of rating

pvp = saved

[fierce elm]

just kill the gamemode

[fickle forge]

Not really though

[balmy reef]

Hey quick question : are the stats priority the same between protection and arms warrior ? I grinded a (almost) full pvp set for my prot warrior, and was wondering if I could make the switch to arms by only bying the corresponding weapon ?

[fickle forge]

Inflation mostly stems from when low mmr people Q up

[green wharf]

everyone would play pvp if it was like that

[fickle forge]

Top end ladder remains mostly the same

You inflate the ladder every time you make a new enh sham to Q on 1.8k basically

[urban skiff]

yep

[urban skiff]

yep

BUT

the only situation where inflation/deflation doesn't matter is situations where the gains/losses from games and the match making system also inflates deflates at the same rate.

Since that isn't the case, deflation = you get to play much better and much worse players. -> skill spread in the people you play against will be wider.

If matchmaking is changed so it finds the 50 closest players then inflation and deflation stops mattering

[fickle forge]

But it's literally just an offset for glad+ xp people

They'll be Q'ing into multi glad/R1 teams whether the ladder is deflated to 2.1k or inflated to 3.6k

[urban skiff]

Taking my math teacher's advice, whenever facing a question, to predict the likely answers take the biggest possible extremes of variables and see what happens.

Assumptions: The game looks for players within a fixed rating range, MMR within ~100

In this case
In the magic world of stupid deflation: Nobody can climb above 1000 MMR: You will play literally anybody on the ladder with more than 10 wins. Be that pikaboo or that guildmate of yours who never touched pvp in their life and he plays using only castsequence macros.
= Huge spread. Very fast queues, because anyone is a potential match.

In the magic world of stupid inflation: The highest end of the ladder is 1000000 MMR. You will wait in queue forever. You will only get to play people who has the exact same number of wins and losses as you do, to end up at the exact same MMR as you.
= very low skill spread. Very slow queues, because very specific requirements by the matchmaker algorithm that are hard to fulfill.

[fickle forge]

But that is also what 3s is like

It doesn't pick people with 100 mmr from you

[urban skiff]

which one?

[cosmic field]

well this depends on participation numbers also right? in theory you could have deflated mmr with high participation

[fickle forge]

It takes your team average, and literally pairs with another team who's within like 30 mmr

So you can face the same team back to back after you yank their MMR

[cosmic field]

i know mmr is tied to participation, but the range can be shifted by blizz clearly

[urban skiff]

that's another dimension, yes. The assumption is normal amounts of players. The more you throw in, the less bad inflation is

[urban skiff]

It was an example, I currently face people within 100 MMR in 2s. I assume the algorithm starts at 0 mmr difference in 3s and then widens for every x time units until it finds a match

[fickle forge]

In 3s the Q time is almost instant though

Unless you're Whaazz

You gotta be R1 range at 2 AM for the matchmaker to expand down to glad range etc.

For the most part when Afro and I Q, we'll face a team, and then we'll maybe face that team again if we lose the next one and they won their previous one

Else it's new teams

[urban skiff]

But my observation on expected behavior from inflation/deflation still seems correct to me. It just means we aren't as deflated as worst case scenario The truth is somewhere in between those extremes

[fickle forge]

That's cool though, but we should be realistic as well

Your extremes mostly are 2.6k cutoff and 3.5k cutoff for R1

We never see dips below or above those

[urban skiff]

As jwise pointed out, there's more to in/deflation than just in/deflation. it's most likely that inflation / deflation is directly controlled by participation.

Which goes back to how a competitive game running on the ELO system is basically a pyramid. The wider the base, the higher above ground level you'll find the peak.

Altering the formula would change how steep the pyramid sides incline.
Blizzard manually messing with mmr injections is raising or lowering the foundation

[fierce elm]

100 rating cutoff for r1

[urban skiff]

If I had more time/interest and proper data I could probably figure out a way to calculate seasonal participation based entirely around R1 cutoff

Would be an interesting project

kind of a shame there's no R1 titles from 2v2

I'm rank22 enh without even trying

[fierce elm]

yeah that wouldn't be enough for a r1 title in 2v2

because its not spec based

[urban skiff]

Would participation go up if there were spec-specific R1 titles?

[fierce elm]

prbably not

[urban skiff]

only 225 rating between me and topdog

That's, what? 16 more wins than losses?

I'm rank 6912 total and 1427 is the top enh.

There's something really interesting going on with this dynamic

[copper fox]

WW monk is better than both warrior specs

[urban skiff]

MW monk is superior to WW though

@elfin surge said MW monk is the best when playing with a top tier dps like enhancement

[copper fox]

I remember him saying that

[elfin surge]

[urban skiff]

Yes he definitely said that enhancement is the best dps in 2s and that mw can only be good in that scenario

[elfin surge]

yeah man

[urban skiff]

I guess I still haven't forgiven mud from not being on the murloc list when I bragged about how famous he was to my wife

This is a painful wound

Mortal, perhaps

What race is the best for MW in 2s if the goal is to hyper-specialize entirely around 2s and nothing else matters as much as best performance 2s?

[fierce elm]

Undead or Nelf

probs undead

[urban skiff]

I can see that on murlokio but I have no understanding of why

[fierce elm]

fear break

[urban skiff]

assuming we build around 2s with enh, would that mean nelf wins supreme?

[fickle forge]

I'm FREE MFs

Time to play WoW

For the rest of the summer

Log in right now @fierce elm

[fierce elm]

wtf no

[fickle forge]

We are Q'ing RIGHT now

[fierce elm]

I am playing sf6

[fickle forge]

What is this blessed Q time

[fierce elm]

get outta here nerd

[rancid granite]

thats a bug

[fickle forge]

Game gives me +300 mmr as first lobby on dps

Meanwhile, if I go 5-1 as a healer, I lose 200 mmr

[fierce elm]

thats because your hpala has 20% winrate

[fickle forge]

It was my Rsham

[fierce elm]

thats because your rsham has 20% winrate

also show

or you a dirty liar

[fickle forge]

Show what

The lobby?

My Rsham has decent MMR, it's just completely cucked by healer shuffle MMR

[fierce elm]

yeah show the game where you lost 200mmr

going 5-1

[fickle forge]

Here I go digging I guess

[fickle forge]

Aight you know what dawg, ma bad. I only lost 100 mmr from the 5-1 first lobby

[fierce elm]

Thats not 200

[fickle forge]

I stand corrected

[fierce elm]

smh

liar liar pants on fire vibes rn

[fickle forge]

It's a good thing I didn't go 0-6 for -600 mmr

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[elfin surge]

lmao

Healing shuffle is so easy

these peasants do no damage i need to do everything

[fickle forge]

It's so fucking ass lmao

I'll cycle my whole spellbook twice before my random ass SP will press Disperse

[elfin surge]

LOL ya cant trust the bald noobs

[cosmic field]

that is messed up. reckon you would only lose 50 if you went 6 - 0

[elfin surge]

Cons freedom/slow is pretty cool 👍

[wraith ermine]

if im ~670 ilvl but m+ stats is it better to take the ilvl hit and focus mastery/vers?

[fierce elm]

Well, pvp gear is 684

so what ilvl hit

[wraith ermine]

haven’t done any pvp so i assume id be starting out with crap gear

[fickle forge]

Got feared, the ret sanc'd himself and then pressed bubble at 100% next GCD

I left that lobby

[fierce elm]

Most definitely

but it also depends on current gear

and what you are going to play

You don't need to replace a 684 weapon or tier sets basically

but you need the honor trinkets at minimm

[fickle forge]

Just stack up on honor gear and take the grind from there

Do the crate farms

[urban cedar]

Whats the best way to peel war and stop his opener? (I'm a dh player)

[frank knoll]

What’s the easiest healer
For some reason I feel like it’s Hpal

[frank knoll]

Try and glimpse spear/stormbolt

[fierce elm]

hpala

[fierce elm]

CC

Glimpse

Thats about it as a DH

[frank knoll]

Yeah MUD playing hpal must be easy

[fickle forge]

hpala

[frank knoll]

Glimpse is your only thing, or else you die.. but DH is apparently “broken”

[fickle forge]

Yeah except for cage

Double stun

Blur

Fly

But DH squishy dw

[frank knoll]

Blur sucks

Into warrior atleast

[fickle forge]

DH has the lowest first blood % bro

It's anything but squishy

[frank knoll]

That’s because on average DH are better players

[fickle forge]

For sure for sure

[distant wharf]

hmm i wanna try some pvp out, whats the best way to farm those conquest if i have 0 pvp gear

[fierce elm]

War crate farming

Mindnumbingly boring though

[distant wharf]

whats that

[fierce elm]

You join a group, fly to war crates that are announced in the raid chat

loot the crate

repeat

[distant wharf]

fast conquest?

how fast until i get full conquest gear? 😛

[rancid granite]

ehhh

[urban skiff]

This is so fucking cool

Guys, mistweaver can autoattack enemies while having target on a friendly

[rancid granite]

do the weeklies and look for world quests for bloody token gear first

then crate farm a bit.... honestly q up solo shuffle mid way

or what I did was do bloody token gear then just crate farm til you get your conq weapon achievement

then good to go

and just normal pvp til you fill in the rest

[urban skiff]

129 crates if you do crate farm

win ashran by killing boss and you get 250 + 125 for one game

go queue up a brawl to get the quest for that too

[copper fox]

Fastest conq is buying honor gear and doing 10 wins in 2s then pressing q for bgb… win or loss gets you heraldries then you can Q anything you’ll be around 677/679

[distant wharf]

yeah, wanna skip shitty anoying farms :p

probly buy full honor and go bgb

[copper fox]

Yea so just do what I said it’s the fastest

Yee

[distant wharf]

skip bloody tokens? not a big gear diff right?

[copper fox]

Do the dorn token quest while you’re in Q

[fierce elm]

Yeah

[copper fox]

It’ll come passively anyway

I don’t do more than 1 token quest tho per char

Gets like belt + cloak or bracers

That’s all you need from it

And the dorn one this week is fast af

There’s dirt everywhere

• 5 WQs

[fierce elm]

Just go GRIND

and win every game

it aint that hard

[copper fox]

exactly

[distant wharf]

im doing soloshufful

full pve 😛

[fierce elm]

Yeah we know lmao

But yeah

full honor

buy conq gear

can do some Bloody token stuff if you want to

otherwise just keep grinding conq gear

[distant wharf]

they are raging xD

[copper fox]

Well I wouldn’t pvp without at least honor gear lol you’re throwing hard

Takes no time to get honor

[distant wharf]

i notice i have 15k honor

okej done, full pvp geared 😛 Question is now. Should i just do solo shuffel/solo rbg. Or farm those tokens

[urban skiff]

why even buy honor gear then? Just buy the crafted BoE pvp gear on AH and save honor for 2 sockets

[fierce elm]

Thats up to you

[copper fox]

Yea whatever same thing as far as time goes