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#pvp
pastel swan
Cool
My dumbass sp kept on the warrior I had to stop and /say can you pls swap to ret he has nothing and ping him 3 times before he swapped lmao
pastel swan
r heartbreaking
Whats wrong big Tony
fierce elm
Just be better
iron ravine
Whats wrong big Tony
urban skiff
My dumbass sp kept on the warrior I had to stop and /say can you pls swap to ret...
always have a ping kill macro
south kestrel
is it worth disarming sub rogue or just run dif talent
fierce elm
Worth disarming
urban skiff
we disarm on shadowblades, right?
fierce elm
we disarm on shadowblades, right?
yes
urban skiff
what about the smaller go's?
fierce elm
Yes
urban skiff
Just don't disarm when there's less than 45 sec left on shadowblades cooldown
south kestrel
what vers % are people sitting at with the tier set atm
im at 18, feels kinda low but idk
using 684 mythic tier, basically the same thing right
fierce elm
using 684 mythic tier, basically the same thing right
it is
urban skiff
My shaman is 21% which feels sort of low
but also I don't feel particularly squishy at that level, and I imagine warriors feel way less squishy?
So could be fine if you're happy with your damage
south kestrel
ive just been messing around in 2s to get a feel again
Aug burst and MM makes me sweat but its fine
execute is bonkers
pastel swan
are yall memeing
urban skiff
Aug burst and MM makes me sweat but its fine
aug burst is easy enough for you to deal with as warrior
south kestrel
Once i know what Im looking for yeah
urban skiff
I'm about to tell you
just fact checking first
they're going to try and stack siege to 15% before bursting
Then it's:
Ebon might
fiire breath
tip+upheaval
Breath of Eons / Deep Breath
Eruption Spam <--- this is the dangerous one
Living flame
So you see EM and fire breath, you get ready.
You see upheaval;
and then when you see him do the "jump up into the air"-animation you use heroic leap to go behind him. He won't be able to turn fast enough to hit you with breath
I haven't been able to do it on warrior because I don't see many augs (and I don't really play my war atm), but it's sort of what I've done on my shaman.
urban skiff
idk if skillcapped said anything about it
but making him waste his breath is the big play
Now keeping track of when new breath is ready is the tricky part
but everything else is about catching everyone in the big stun and clumped together for eruption spam
sub1400 player reporting in
If my rating climbs above 1400 it's pure luck and carried by spec being OP
south kestrel
I haven't been able to do it on warrior because I don't see many augs (and I don...
Useful thanks
Only in it for the 1800 armour this season
Any recommendation on 2s comp? Or just waste away in dorno waiting for the infinite shuffle pop
urban skiff
Have you seen many augs yet?
south kestrel
2 in my first 8 games lol
Managed to win but my team mate got nuked into the stratosphere
urban skiff
Any recommendation on 2s comp? Or just waste away in dorno waiting for the infin...
probs these aren't all wrong
basically hpal rsham rdru mw are your options, but also people in here will tell you everything under 2100 is freebie and nothing matters
south kestrel
Yeah idk I just mythic raid, havent pvpd since s2 df when I got my last 1800 lol
Any info is good info
wheat jay
urban skiff
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897055819475091456/1371192003299250238/...
lol
i'm definintely a "just do damage" kind of guy
The whole cc positiion trade stuff sounds useful but I can't grasp it
wheat jay
i was middle guy for long time lol
rancid granite
thats like one of the top 3 meme formats ever lmao
wheat jay
yep
rancid granite
pastel swan
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897055819475091456/1371192003299250238/...
The mglads and R1s all do this without thinking about it.
And 2100 definitely isn’t the cutoff for animals in shuffle at least lol
verbal tangle
epic battlegrounds rated when?
when Blizz decides to fuck us all like whores
green wharf
when Blizz decides to fuck us all like whores
verbal tangle
<:xan:1094127979703062558>
I say that like my ass wouldn't be slogging through AV like its Frozen Nam
pastel swan
It’s unplayable. Dead spec
wheat jay
And 2100 definitely isn’t the cutoff for animals in shuffle at least lol
true its 2400 in shuffle
or hiogher
xD
pastel swan
It gets better above 2100 for sure. The highest I’ve been is 2450ish last ssn. And even then I felt like ppl were idiotic half the time
I started wow middle of DF s4. Got some duelists that ssn. Then last ssn got elite. Hoping to get legend and see how far I push glad this ssn
Things started clicking this week for some reason. My awareness just clicked. It’s like I gained consciousness
green wharf
i started wow in wrath, but only did serious pvp last season 
pastel swan
It’s a lot to learn
But once u understand what to look for it gets a lot easier
I’m 2200 on warr rn and started playing arms a couple weeks ago. I like it
urban skiff
why are warriors so easy?
sharp meteor
cos warrs with keyboards and hands and eyes aren't that low
urban skiff
spriests getting easier too
spice hornet
I wish you were on US
urban skiff
I wish you were on US
how high dps constitutes a jumpscare?
spice hornet
What addon do you use for these dumb ahh graphs
lucid walrus
don't think anyone's gonna stop you
urban skiff
don't think anyone's gonna stop you
try and stop me, i'll peestorm
lucid walrus
☻
urban skiff
👊
spice hornet
@urban skiff is your wife danish too?
urban skiff
I assume so
She's a redhead so you never know
Might just be straight up devilspawn
elfin surge
urban skiff
<:Uglybaldbaby:1263529242109677711>
stop posting selfies
elfin surge
sorry.
urban skiff
at least the stupid sexy ones
oh shit that's a baby, i assumed it was a full grown bald guy
elfin surge
urban skiff
are you just in a server full of baby emojis?
elfin surge
It's from my server
urban skiff
you have a server?
elfin surge
arms wasnt nerfed haha nana boo boo
urban skiff
arms is great
Mud I'm trying to prove to my wife you're famous but I can't find your name anywhere on the ladder
elfin surge
LOL
urban skiff
Yea that's my excuse too
Just picked up some no-name healer who's never healed before in her life
elfin surge
I main hpal now sorry
smoky onyx
guys quick question, is there a priority list for arms in PvP? like CS>Execute>MS> Slam? first time trying arms
urban skiff
I main hpal now sorry
oh almost me too
I try but i can't play healer worth shit so I just hit denounce a lot
urban skiff
guys quick question, is there a priority list for arms in PvP? like CS>Execute>M...
there's an ideal priorioty, there probably isn't a list anywhere because it's context based
smoky onyx
Do you maybe have link to a good Guide, or to that Prioritys?
urban skiff
I'd say this mostly holds true for pvp as well, at your stage of playh
replace "approaching adds" with "stuck in cc" and "increased damage phase" with idk
someone smart can correct everything i said that is wrong and then you have your guide 🙂
boreal veldt
But the idea of staying on target and keeping CDs on cooldown is basically all there is to it
urban skiff
yup
maximize uptime, minimize damage taken, protect your team from cc and keep your enemy in range of your team, out of their healer's LoS
it's mostly the same for everyone, but with warrior it's pretty much all you can do so you have to do it better
is this a cursed queue?
boreal veldt
spice hornet
Mud I'm trying to prove to my wife you're famous but I can't find your name anyw...
CAN WE PIN THIS
@urban skiff to find Mud on the ladder you’ll need to locate the 2v2 section ans go to the last page where the 1400 rated people are. Then you might see him
urban skiff
CAN WE PIN THIS
lol, you have to tag late for that
what is wrong with people who just stand right next to rdru in tree form and keep getting killed by warriors and hunters?
Literally just outrun their healer
going 3-3 because I played with the one frost mage who can't escape an arms warrior despite getting peels
:/
I'm not even good
spice hornet
Yes I am
copper fox
Just remove Tony from pvp channels since he doesn’t pvp
Just levels shit and collects toys
spice hornet
sharp meteor
he just like me fr
urban skiff
Just levels shit and collects toys
the true pvp endgame
copper fox
Minus the good pvp part yea
urban skiff
I'm learning
Messed up the dk's go when with him the first time, 2nd time he told me and i didn't do it
fickle forge
Do I do it?
copper fox
Yes you do
copper fox
Last night I left a shuffle on my ww. Never left a shuffle in my life lol took the -150 was something irl that made me do it but felt so weird doing that
fickle forge
I probably wouldn't even feel anything
Shuffle makes me hate everything
I would rather make 4 new homies and spam M+ than Q shuffle
copper fox
lol
fickle forge
Playing 3s is such a bliss compared to shuffle
copper fox
Yea agreed. Shuffle is like trying to connect the dots with people who don’t have hands
fickle forge
This def my biggest one yet
pastel swan
Does Col not hit execute a lot
fierce elm
Execute usage depends on SD procs and how often you can get someone Low
if they dont fullfil that you cant spam execute
and Overpower TRUCKS as colo
Colo doesnt have a ”bad” main rotation ability
boreal veldt
Yeah we kinda just hit what is available and better at the moment
pastel swan
Ahh ok. I’ve missed quite a few demolishes in my short time playing it. Ppl will trinket and use mobility just to get away from it haha
boreal veldt
Yeah, against sweats and with how saturated arms is atm everyone has an answer for it, but sometimes you get a good cc
Especially since an entire race counters Demo
rancid granite
i land demo all the time no cc or anything
just do it when they're not expecting it ez
boreal veldt
real and true
I'm not looking forward to the return of the slow laser tentacles from nightmares next week
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> are you haste or mastery slayer arms?
yes
elfin surge
I'm both but mostly haste i think
ebon steeple
elfin surge
@spice hornet
spice hornet
ty
green wharf
Just remove Tony from pvp channels since he doesn’t pvp
But that would mean we have to remove Mud too
copper fox
R1 title tho
sharp meteor
Rare one, too. Eternal was brutal.
copper fox
If anyone gets prized gladiator here and uses it you should be ashamed of yourself
Might be the worst one yet
green wharf
copper fox
Name wise
copper fox
https://vxtwitter.com/HarryLotusEater/status/1923708717469442451
Little mentz
spice hornet
@sharp meteor what for dinner tonight
@elfin surge the type of guy to get Carl’s Jr
robust hearth
<@129440991294783488> what for dinner tonight
5 cheese baked ziti
robust hearth
Useless
south kestrel
Fair
Felt very squishy today in my shuffle session but didnt do too badly
Need to use d stance more I think. Lots of caster lobbies making it hard to get good uptime
boreal veldt
Wrecking throw with tacking at all now or na
Yeah they nerfed it into dirt against shields, but it's still i nice lil 800k-1mil ranged ability
fierce elm
Why is arms so busted
wheat jay
cuz it correlates to irl arms strength of the player
thus it has near infinite scaling
fierce elm
smh being high rated as arms is like being high rated in blitz it doesn't count
<@&257983573498265600>
kek
green wharf
You guys are going to nerf arms to the ground next week
execute nerf in 25% incoming
@urban skiff almost killed a prot war today wpvp with a ench with greens
urban skiff
enh is brutal
green wharf
i didnt killed cause another prot and ret came to help
but it seems pretty darn strong in 1x1 scenarios
primordial wave and they shit themselves
urban skiff
Are you playing the peestormbringer build?
south kestrel
smh being high rated as arms is like being high rated in blitz it doesn't count
Is blitz even more free than shuffle lol
fierce elm
pretty much yeah
fierce elm
Its mostly just slow rating gain
but I reckon queue times are better
its max 36 rating per win after a certain point
meanwhile in Shuffle I can gain 90 rating at 2.4
south kestrel
Gross
Yeah my queues in solo are like 11-12min average atm
But only started today
green wharf
Are you playing the peestormbringer build?
im doing the one with no dogos we talked beofre
urban skiff
good, it's so much fun
green wharf
i see less buttons option i go for it
urban skiff
it's not even less buttons
green wharf
i have zero patience for too many bindings nowadays
urban skiff
but sometimes you turn someone inside out
fierce elm
but sometimes you turn someone inside out
turn me inside out
Damage
Damage spike* specifically
green wharf
turn me inside out
urban skiff
what's so stupid is how ascendance just melts people, but i almost never kill people with ascendance
Literally just wipe them out from constant pressure
what did I even do right here
green wharf
enh and dks dont have execute
so you just pressure then
well dk ahve soul reaper now but imo, its trash
urban skiff
I choose to think of it, as enh having an execute that can be used at any hp%
urban skiff
well dk ahve soul reaper now but imo, its trash
it was always garbage
I raided as dk throughout legion for some absurd reason and soul reaper never sat well with me
urban skiff
UHDK should have joined Enh, survival, retri, evoker as a new group of dps who are mid-ranged instead of melee or long range
green wharf
but its meh
one extra button, no thank you
with clawing shadows they are kinda mid-ranged now
the problem is pets
their i.a i dogpiss and they get rooted/slowed all the time
mor thn often i summon LE GORDO, and the army, but they fuck off to attack someone else
despite using /attackpet
lavish quest
Is blitz even more free than shuffle lol
Blitz can feel very much like a coin toss at times
urban skiff
with clawing shadows they are kinda mid-ranged now
i mean it should be a playstyle they're designed around
not just having a few ranged abilities, a complete mid-range rotation
equal footing with survival and enh and retri and evoker
green wharf
equal footing with survival and enh and retri and evoker
it is
sharp meteor
despite using /attackpet
Ye that don't do anything
urban skiff
it is
not with evoker
I want them to be full on pseudoranged with a complete rotation
green wharf
not with evoker
they are on pair with enh and survival
urban skiff
Yes, i get that
I'm saying I want them all to be like evoker
ranged but not really ranged
They should have split ranged into two groups, long range and close range. Having dps split in only two groups has been toxic for pve
chilly pivot
they should just remove evoker from the game
MoP in some weeks
lavish quest
they should just remove evoker from the game
I agree, but mages first
pastel swan
It is a little easier to chase than it is to run all the time. But the thing with being a ranged is that you decide where they chase you to. So you can bait bad melee easily
sharp meteor
Yep you can't always kite but you can drag
fickle forge
playing range vs melee is more annoying than playing melee vs range
It ain't
Only if you rely on hard casting for damage
rancid granite
i dont know how to do anything but aimed shot and panic :)
spice hornet
Hi
spice hornet
@sharp meteor in Midnight expac the hubs will be updated Silvermoon and updated Gilneas for each faction
Am I cooking?
sharp meteor
Gilneas? 
spice hornet
Gilneas? <:ZOOMEReyes:721123810992062506>
Whatever the worgen capital is
worldly oriole
maybe corruptions will make dh king
spice hornet
Aren’t they giga nerfed and it’s a head enchant
worldly oriole
yeah cuz blizz is anti fun
spice hornet
Getting w keyed by a blade dance dodge leech stacked DH mana burning your healer every 20 seconds while doing max gushing dps was awful
That was genuinely a depressing time for warrior
worldly oriole
it wasnt that good tho by the end of the season
spice hornet
The worst players I have ever seen got 2.4k in 2s for existing on dh that season
worldly oriole
my team barely played so maybe im wrong. but dh dk rsham didnt feel OP. it was platable tho
playable
yeah 2s are different
i was like 2600 2s that season shoulda pushed higher
spice hornet
That comp was good. Dh dk, rmp, jungle, destro mage cleaves. Double fire mage priest spamming hasted gpie
worldly oriole
lololol
spice hornet
Dk/shadow was good too. WW/x
worldly oriole
double destro was a thing in bfa
spice hornet
Not a good season for warrior
worldly oriole
everytime they drop infernal you pillar as dh warrior haha
spice hornet
I played tf out of that season all content, m+,keys arena, I have Azeroth champion FoS
Arms was good in raid tho. But keys were also depressing as warr. Legit target capped for no reason
Meanwhile a dh is hitting 30 mobs at once
spice hornet
Yeah idk why ppl keep thinking it’ll be like bfa
rancid granite
pve grind for that 1% for pvp is fun
sand sundial
<@129440991294783488> in Midnight expac the hubs will be updated Silvermoon and ...
this seems very plausible and highly possible
time for elves and goths to make a return
the NPCs will have british accents but not everything can be nice
worldly oriole
this meta needs something major 😂
cosmic field
i rolled an alt.... feels bad
fierce elm
lmfao
edgy escarp
Reddit for sure is full of small 🍆🍆 energy 🤣
"I dropped from 2150 to 1800 because of Arms warr" is a take hahahh
sharp meteor
2k is where warr is the most oppressive yep
opaque whale
rancid granite
Reddit for sure is full of small 🍆🍆 energy 🤣
i still glance at it while sitting on the toilet and it never fails to depress me lmao
i don't want to have to know these people exist
fickle forge
Holy fuck
edgy escarp
i still glance at it while sitting on the toilet and it never fails to depress m...
Bet these same people would barely scratch 1600 as a warrior 😂 🤡
ok now i was too kind
lets say 1400
@fickle forge how's Colossus these days?
3s? Blitz?
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> how's Colossus these days?
Below slayer
But it outcleaves slayer
rancid granite
Bet these same people would barely scratch 1600 as a warrior 😂 🤡
they'd just make the same post about another class lol
frank knoll
2k is where warr is the most oppressive yep
I did a shuffle vs double Arms/frost mage on my DH and it was pretty awful
They just both w keyed me until my healer and I ran out of buttons died when they were together
Hit for a 5 mil execute
Arms counters DH so I understood that it was just a bad lobby
green wharf
Whatever the worgen capital is
Where did you hear that, guilneas is too far from silvermoon to be a hub
spice hornet
It is my yolo guess
green wharf
verbal tangle
Where did you hear that, guilneas is too far from silvermoon to be a hub
It lets us look at the upper portion of the Eastern Kingdoms as a whole rather than just Silvermoon.exe
green wharf
it will be just silvermoon exe
it will be a lame ass neutral expansion filled with elves
verbal tangle
Probably not, since Silvermoon and the surrounding humans makes for a more compelling story
south kestrel
Who are generally best disarm targets atm
besides other arms warriors lol
Trying to figure out instances where you drop disarm for storm of destruction and vice versa
pastel swan
Who are generally best disarm targets atm
Any rogue spec, MM hunter, DK, enhance shaman and ret during burst does a little bit to stop their damage. But mainly warr rogue mm and both DK specs
frail venture
any plater profiles aroudn for pvp?
south kestrel
ayyy 1800 in 48 rounds, thats a record for me
urban skiff
Any rogue spec, MM hunter, DK, enhance shaman and ret during burst does a little...
disarm doesn't stop my small go at all on enh
fickle forge
disarm doesn't stop my small go at all on enh
Stops doom winds
Which is what you want
urban skiff
Stops doom winds
Doom winds isn't stopped by disarm. It's an aoe swirl
fickle forge
Doom winds isn't stopped by disarm. It's an aoe swirl
The swirl is whatever
It's the windfury attacks that matter
Or you know in your case, Ascendance
urban skiff
Can't disarm all the doom winds though. Not even close
urban skiff
No, it can proc from 4set
Holy shit i just realized those procs are the source of the super random cc i always get hit by
cosmic field
oh man i finally figured out why these russian premades stomp so hard
warm pollen
it only does for prot, has been this way in df too afaik
fickle forge
When did anger management stopped affecting Avatar
About at the beginning of time
urban skiff
oh man i finally figured out why these russian premades stomp so hard
Because they have like two servers and language groups are forced to play with each other, so you have hundreds of thousands of potential partners in random bgs while they have maybe thousands?
And you have no way of knowing if they're a pre made just because their character names are alle written in cyrillic..?
fickle forge
The russians are also pretty mid at PvP
green wharf
About at the beginning of time
green wharf
Because they have like two servers and language groups are forced to play with e...
If they are playing organized, you know its a premade
is pretty easy to spot
cause bg is a no-man unlawful land
urban skiff
If they are playing organized, you know its a premade
No i don't. For all you know they could have a culture of using the build in VoIP that the rest of us ignored.
Or they found a way to communicate tactics mid fight that gets read.
Or it's not organized in the first place. it's just more organized than your team.
urban skiff
There are other explanations than "they always do premades" i see thrown around by people who self report that they've never completely dominated a bg while playing alone.
🙃
green wharf
one thing is you dominating the bg because X reasons, the other is the team deliberately organized, following calls, going on team and even dividing groups to do X task
And you joining a BG that has 20 players when it should have 40
urban skiff
How have absolutely zero way of knowing if they're organized or just really good at following one guys orders
I'm objecting to the notion that one can tell if it's a premade or they're just really good randoms.
green wharf
If people were this good in group they would be doing blitz, with 3k mmr already
cosmic field
are you eu zercher?
rancid granite
I'm objecting to the notion that one can tell if it's a premade or they're just ...
the real players just end up learning people's names and guilds and seeing them all grouped up
doesn't have to be a full group either
urban skiff
are you eu zercher?
Yes
urban skiff
If people were this good in group they would be doing blitz, with 3k mmr already
What about the ones that don't want to?
cosmic field
i mean maybe ur right i'm just meming about the uwu pvp weakaura
green wharf
the real players just end up learning people's names and guilds and seeing them ...
You can tell when people are duo, and you can tell when 5-8 people are in the same premade too
cosmic field
but deffo queued in to random bgs where the team is stacked russians with full conq gear
green wharf
if you are doing normal bg
cosmic field
and they play well
green wharf
epic bg is somehow harder, but if you join a bg with 20 people missing yeah, thats premade
urban skiff
i mean maybe ur right i'm just meming about the uwu pvp weakaura
The what now?
rancid granite
You can tell when people are duo, and you can tell when 5-8 people are in the sa...
yeah, although those rare moments where you pick up a random friend and hive mind it like you are a duo is : chef kiss :
fickle forge
I stand firm that the russian premade mafia is as much of a myth as the R1 cabal holding back people's shuffles
cosmic field
The what now?
lol look at the screengrab on the post you replied to
urban skiff
I stand firm that the russian premade mafia is as much of a myth as the R1 cabal...
Big words for a R1 cabal coverup enthusiast
urban skiff
lol look at the screengrab on the post you replied to
Those are words. I cannot read.
fickle forge
Big words for a R1 cabal coverup enthusiast
We aren't real
urban skiff
We aren't real
Exactly. We aren't.
I'm not a mid range gatekeeper blocking warriors from passing into the good ranges..
green wharf
I stand firm that the russian premade mafia is as much of a myth as the R1 cabal...
i didnt face any russian mafia but afteroon/night time this week, in one day, from 11 bgs 7 were premade
fickle forge
Started at 1800, played like 4 games and then was 2.4k mmr
green wharf
3 with the same people
it was worse in flag bgs where you could see the team moving like they had a raid leader
urban skiff
i didnt face any russian mafia but afteroon/night time this week, in one day, fr...
The week they removed conquest cap random bgs see fewer EU players? That's a wild coincidence..
Almost like they swapped to blitz to farm conq on mains and alts over doing random bgs
fickle forge
Nobody is q dodging on 1600
urban skiff
Nobody is q dodging on 1600
I am, but that's because i forget to press accept
green wharf
Nobody is q dodging on 1600
how do you know that
i would q dodge MW in s1 in 500 if i could
urban skiff
Yeah they're win trading instead at 1600
Psst! Let me win and i'll send pics of my wife's boyfriends' feet.
fierce kite
So which spec is performing better at the moment in shuffle?
fickle forge
Arms
green wharf
Psst! Let me win and i'll send pics of my wife's boyfriends' feet.
the crime is that arms cant be thane
have to stay with this shit ass colossus spec
urban skiff
have to stay with this shit ass colossus spec
Arms should have had colossus and thane.
Fury should have had colossus and slayer
Prot should have had thane and slayer
Change my mind (don't though)
Imagine colossus fury with 5x death wish stacks and bloodlust just coming flying right at you
Upside: look cool
Downside: people will default target you first because of size
fickle forge
Fury isn't colossus though
It's a smol boi spec
Prot and arms are the real Chads
At least colossus claps on cleave
green wharf
Arms should have had colossus and thane.
Fury should have had colossus and slaye...
thematically they are correct
but thane fits more arms due to the playstyle
green wharf
It's a smol boi spec
only spec who can wield 2h in one hand
they would be the real colossus
all three hero spec fit all specs tbh
urban skiff
Thane should have been centered around big avatar and thunderclap but we didn't get that.
thematically they missed the mark
green wharf
Thane dont fit thematically arms
urban skiff
They tried too hard to make thunderclap relevant for all 3 specs
fickle forge
>only spec who can wield 2h in one hand <:keks:936231610850897992>
And yet they hit for less than an affli lock per swing
urban skiff
Thane dont fit thematically arms
Of course it does. Nothing about thane says no 2handers.
fickle forge
You gotta understand that your level of Chad correlates to how fat your numbers are in one swing
green wharf
but i wanna cause tclap is good and i could remove fucking slam of by bar
green wharf
Of course it does. Nothing about thane says no 2handers.
Thane is based on mountain thane hero from war3
they were dual wielding dwarves
not rly arms-theme
fickle forge
I wouldn't use that as a reference for anything
urban skiff
Dualwielding is not the identity. Avatar is.
fickle forge
Every single WoW lore survival hunter is dual wielding, yet we can't duel wield as surv
lavish quest
Freedom during avatar when?
urban skiff
The mountain king was all about stuns and more stuns and avatar and clap.
Nothing in their kit screams dualwield
fickle forge
"Uhm achktually this one dood from the lore 24 years ago was like this, so we can't have it be any different ingame for our characters ☝️ 🤓"
lavish quest
Avatar was based off of the mountain king and his avatar ability. Stfu 🤓
fickle forge
So achkually we can't give warriors shockwave, because that was a tauren thing, so like, maybe remove that blizzard? ☝️ 🤓
fickle forge
Uhm, no? They were clearly chieftains ☝️ 🤓
lavish quest
Chieftain playable class when???
lavish quest
Replace mages and scaleys with more melee. Bring back warcraft
fierce elm
nerds
green wharf
Every single WoW lore survival hunter is dual wielding, yet we can't duel wield ...
That just blizzard not giving up their mistakes
it have nothing to do with lore lul
fierce elm
Go react to my 5.4M Execute
I aint reacting to blitz
rancid granite
the guy in full greens getting executed for 5.4m definitely made a reddit post about it
fickle forge
I aint reacting to blitz
What's the difference man
fierce elm
Blitz rating is the same as 3s rating
fickle forge
the guy in full greens getting executed for 5.4m definitely made a reddit post a...
I checked if he was, but nah
fierce elm
1:1 ratio
fierce elm
What's the difference man
because I can
fickle forge
Blitz rating is the same as 3s rating
Oh my god you little nerd
rancid granite
I checked if he was, but nah
you ain't have the bg berserker buff either??
fierce elm
Waiting room for 3s
fickle forge
Ma bad man, I forgot people take less dam the higher rating they are
fickle forge
you ain't have the bg berserker buff either??
Nothing
fierce elm
: )
fickle forge
No externals
rancid granite
damn nice lol
fierce elm
Look at my 40mil execute in kotmogu
fickle forge
Look at my 12M execute on a guardian druid out of form
frank knoll
I have to stop brooding over a bad PvP session all day
rancid granite
go to gym and lift it out of your system
copper fox
Any sub 200, sub 6ft, sub 405, men in underwear on stage lovers in the chat this Monday AM
rancid granite
I feel like that was directed at me
fierce elm
Thankfully I am not sub 200 or sub 6ft
and I only enjoy some men in underwear on stage
copper fox
Same tbh
fierce elm
Also man my fucking instagram has started to become only rage-bait lifting content
rancid granite
i like going up there myself not watching others
copper fox
Also man my fucking instagram has started to become only rage-bait lifting conte...
That’s because it reads this chat
fierce elm
Some dude benching 135 in a GYMSHARK compression tee at like 30% bodyfat with like 2 years of training experience
With the caption "SCIENCE BASED LIFTERS CANT COMPREHEND THIS"
lmfao
copper fox
Lmfao
fierce elm
My new favorite guy is some guy blowing up because he got the Gymshark Onyx compression tank and now he is bragging on it constantly on IG
copper fox
I judged a meet yesterday, some 220 kid pulled 870
fierce elm
what the fuck
God I love this dude already lmfao
Funnieest thing its 100% the singlet they dropped and not the tank lmfao
fierce elm
LMFAO
RIGHT
Like waht the hell
I love IG honestly
I am not doom scrolling, I am content searching
fickle forge
I HATE CUTTING I HATE CUTTING I HATE CUTTING
fierce elm
You suck at cutting nerd
Just suicide cut so its faster
I am boutta inject 400mg of caffeine to survive the day
copper fox
That’s what I just did
lavish quest
fickle forge
Just suicide cut so its faster
Stfu, I'm getting a burger and milkshake after gym
fierce elm
lmfao
fickle forge
I HATE this feeling of losing strength
fierce elm
why is his name not capitalized
If you are losing strength on a cut you just suck tbh
lavish quest
Fukted if I know
fierce elm
Especially if you aren't pushing huge big numbers
and its not like you are aiming to lose 20kgs or anything wild lmfao
fickle forge
It's CRUMBLING
copper fox
I have 3 more lbs
To lose
And I’m gtg
Nationals in July I stay this weight I’m good
Can’t wait for maintenance cals
fierce elm
I lose until my bicep vein connects to shoulder veins again lmao
or when my mental breaks down
copper fox
When I do hard cuts I intentionally program like that lol
Way more pull ups and dips
Just mentally makes me feel better
rancid granite
Just suicide cut so its faster
what is a suicide cut specifically lol
also, the term for that is awful
copper fox
Mega low cals
rancid granite
yeah i just assumed hella protein no cals
insteas of what, trying to maintain ~200-300 cals below maintenance?
im learning still
fickle forge
Also means you nuke your gains though
copper fox
Yea basically. Ideally you never do a “suicide” cut lol but some people do it like a few times a year but you get weak af
fierce elm
what is a suicide cut specifically lol
Like for a normal man a deficit of 1k+
rancid granite
that is a lot lol
fierce elm
It is a lot
edgy escarp
Heres a followup for more "Arms warr stopping my duelist push, pls nerf!" 🤣
Where's his teammates?
In all this
Sounds like he olay 1v3
Play
fierce elm
He is getting 50-0 reliably by arms
Even without WB/Avatar
Like he is absolutely not wrong
graceful moon
what?
fierce elm
He is also Lock so he gets fucked even harder
graceful moon
why is this game like this
up to 12m hp and it feels like ur running around with 10k
fierce elm
Crackling is prio interrupt, you got no healing from your death log
from that one at least
Aimed shot is just aimed shot, but that is looking like CDs which is disarm
It could also not be CDs
fickle forge
Heres a followup for more "Arms warr stopping my duelist push, pls nerf!" 🤣
I mean ye
Pressing Execute for 50% hp is dumb easy
fierce elm
Dude is straight up not wrong lmao
fickle forge
Gatekept like pala gatekept us last season
elfin surge
hpal is the best healer in the game rn
wheat jay
Oh nice im not resubbing then
fierce elm
Oh nice im not resubbing then
its not dw
graceful moon
can someone explain why hunters are the way they are in warrior language
do 35 yr olds with carpal tunnel syndrome need to feel validated in wow or what
frank knoll
I got hit for a 4.8 mil execute yesterday through Blur
A little out of hand lol
graceful moon
I got hit for a 4.8 mil execute yesterday through Blur
A little out of hand lol
problem?
graceful moon
every lobby is priests
fickle forge
Don't tell Artji I am leveling my 2nd warr
fierce elm
Don't tell Artji I am leveling my 2nd warr
Git gear on your first one maybe
fickle forge
Git gear on your first one maybe
Almost have
1 ilvl behind and gotta reenchant rings
Then I've covered up my lack of 4p, embels and ilvl
verbal tangle
can someone explain why hunters are the way they are in warrior language
They aren't people, next question
graceful moon
got it
wheat jay
Don't tell Artji I am leveling my 2nd warr
Bro you play one game a week and youre gonna tell me you'd q with me on your alt?
wheat jay
hi play pve its fun
Okay but my guild is on a break
Im not masochistic enough to play with pugs lmao
slow solstice
join a new guild
wheat jay
No
Mine is fun
Other polish guilds are either full of snowflakes or noobs
So pick your poison lol
Mine was mostly good players that just wanted to chill xd
fickle forge
Bro you play one game a week and youre gonna tell me you'd q with me on your alt...
Once a week : )
22th June I am free all summer
lavish quest
Im not masochistic enough to play with pugs lmao
Need to become steel
lavish quest
I love a decent income of gold that's not just herbing or mining or some shit
Prices have gone down a bit since the ilvl turbo boost, but eh, still decent
fickle forge
copper fox
Gøat
sharp meteor
Love me 1 minute dungeons
elfin surge
sand sundial
Other polish guilds are either full of snowflakes or noobs
Ye I would never join a guild in my native language lol
full quiver
its still hpriest and rdruid dw
I think hpal rdruid are about equal
And priest just right behind
Hpal still has best cds and legit can't go oom
Just less throughout than rdruid
chilly pivot
anyone have link to pvp warrior discord for MoP ?
sharp meteor
Are there enough people to even make such a cord
spice hornet
There was like almost 0 cata warr content when my buds tried to force me to play it
lavish quest
i got a sick parse in solo shuff
Did you just say parse in solo shuff...
copper fox
Classic wow sucks
fierce elm
anyone have a link to pvp warrior glad stance WoD discord?
pastel swan
Just less throughout than rdruid
You don’t need as much throughput when you have fuck off cooldowns tho tbf
full quiver
it feels a lot diff idk
like vs mage spriest i couldn't just trade pve dam with them on ele lmao
hpal couldn't really heal through it
was weird
pastel swan
If it had the range of an actual caster maybe
It does slappa
Idt this discord can have an unbaised opinion on the matter tho
🤣
sand sundial
This would not happen in a million years lmao
They'd delete m+ before they make IO dynamic like that
fierce elm
who doesnt hate warriors
elfin surge
gym mains
urban skiff
Whether I'm happy or sad to see a warlock in shuffle depends entirely on whether there's a warrior or not in my lobby.
urban skiff
https://x.com/Bigmoranx/status/1924344647230624187
conversely, imagine if your rating only went up. Imagine the collective shit the pvp community would lose.
Bigmoran making another great comment that is sure to upset pvp and pve community alike.
And I'm all for it
worldly oriole
epic Mounts have more horsepower
urban skiff
can we kick druid tree or is it immune to that as well as cc?
while they're tree, I know they've all collectively macroed ns + tree so we can't kick the actual tree form thing
the ancient of lore thing
hot solstice
The amount of arms haters under venruki videos is crazy
all it took for arms to go from under the radar was fury nerf...nobody gave an F before
lavish quest
They haven't figured out that you can just walk away to not die and then press 2 gcds to make the warrior die
hot solstice
like crying about 4mil execute while hunter can casualy do 7mil aimshot is crazy
fierce elm
all it took for arms to go from under the radar was fury nerf...nobody gave an F...
and an arms buff
🤷♀️
lavish quest
Warrior being okay is a bigger problem than everyone else being gods
Used to this song and dance
hot solstice
and an arms buff
it was compensation for crit mod nerf
fierce elm
idk who is more coping, the Warriors trying to wrangle their mind around their spec being good or the peope getting one-tapped in CDs
Or even the people being one-tapped outside of CDs with no real inclination damage is incoming
fierce elm
can we kick druid tree or is it immune to that as well as cc?
You can kick
hot solstice
idk ppl couldnt complain about chill streak anymore so they started complaining on arms
urban skiff
all it took for arms to go from under the radar was fury nerf...nobody gave an F...
colossus arms got a sizeable buff though so that might be why they went under the radar
fierce elm
Gibbing people 50%-0% outside of cooldowns regularly is wild
hot solstice
I dont think its about colosus
sharp meteor
https://x.com/Bigmoranx/status/1924344647230624187
This guy is a bit dense.
fierce elm
With no real indication it is happening
lavish quest
Because Arms absolutely deserves it
Classism against warriors. Crazy
worldly oriole
fat chicks have harder time to line of sight!
lavish quest
Gibbing people 50%-0% outside of cooldowns *regularly* is wild
My warrior doesn't do this where do I buy?
fierce elm
idk, my warrior does it pretty fucking frequently
hot solstice
demolish cope
fierce elm
So does the arms that I see on ladder
hot solstice
well I dont mind colo nerf just let slayer be
fierce elm
Also trying to justify it by comparing it to MM, a less represented spec by far that also requires casting and cooldowns to hit those numbers is wild
Nobody is colo, everybody is Slayer
urban skiff
like crying about 4mil execute while hunter can casualy do 7mil aimshot is crazy
enh can casually do at least 6m too. So I think it's most specs have crazy numbers in some form. Numbers aren't the reason some specs are better or OP
hot solstice
ye I forgot that game is balanced around 1800
fierce elm
Plate transmog goated
urban skiff
it was compensation for crit mod nerf
not for colossus
fierce elm
ye I forgot that game is balanced around 1800
Are you facing MM at higher ratings? lmfao
verbal tangle
My warrior doesn't do this where do I buy?
A brain
fierce elm
its all Warriors
urban skiff
ye I forgot that game is balanced around 1800
Should be. Who cares what the outliers above and below are doing? 1800 should be the top 25% of the average players.
hot solstice
Are you facing MM at higher ratings? lmfao
well I am not writing under every tier vod about mm nerfs neither
fierce elm
Because MM is by every definition, fine in the way it is right now on the ladder
urban skiff
Contrary to popular opinion, average does not mean "everyone below respectable skill level", by the way
fierce elm
(Not talking Blitz here because I have no clue about blitz)
verbal tangle
Fuck I'm getting 40-0% Executes on Fury
fierce elm
Arms absolutely isn't
verbal tangle
Imagine what Arms should be doing
fierce elm
We got 3 abilities that consistently hit for 3m lmfao
hot solstice
well If warrior wins this awc I will be writing about nerfs myself
sharp meteor
Mm always such dead weight in bgs
sharp meteor
Hey guys I don't sit BTW no pet
urban skiff
Is AWC happening atm?
hot solstice
I dont care as long as I face awc players on shuffle and 3s
urban skiff
Any interesting comps to watch or is it all going to be RMP?
frank knoll
I’m in some greens on my warrior doing 4 mil executes
Every button I press besides slam does like 1 mil atleast
I think Arms will get nerfed 😦
fierce elm
I dont care as long as I face awc players on shuffle and 3s
So you are 2.6+ in SS and 2.3+ in 3s then
But seriously, AWC is not ladder
hot solstice
2.5
frank knoll
This is the most insane Arms has been since SL season 1
urban skiff
RMP is to wow arena what BJJ is to MMA, where everyone is just scooting along the floor to win by being first to execute the most boring strategy of all time
RMP is the giantdad of arena.
fierce elm
SS in particular is being fist-blasted by Arms warrior rn
High rep, is really good, is really easy to play, has consistent output with 3 different abilities above 3m
hot solstice
The thing I want is some good old rework so my class wont feel op into some slow specs and completely useless into mages and other mobile stuff
urban skiff
please tell me it's shifted to colossus meta
I want to like slayer but it's just so boring
frank knoll
I had 2 arms warriors in the same round yesterday on my DH
sharp meteor
Colo is boring
fierce elm
I had 2 arms warriors in the same round yesterday on my DH
I have had 3 arms in the same game : )
urban skiff
Colossus looks better and I like having that o-get-fucked-button I can press if someone makes a mistake
fierce elm
Because arms is invading the bracket
rancid granite
slayer is nice when you wanna chill and afk
fierce elm
Because turns out, a spec that gimps 90% of specs is good
frank knoll
DH is probably the highest skill cap melee besides maybe rogue tbh
rancid granite
col is nice when you wanna be a pseudo sub rogue type
sharp meteor
Feral
fierce elm
Feral
urban skiff
I have had 3 arms in the same game : )
dream come true for enh. I get to play turbo for 6/6 games vs the wheelchair class
fierce elm
Enhance
frank knoll
You can press a button and not die as feral
DH you’re cucked by roots and have to pre glimpse the everything to live
Blur and Darkness are a joke
Netherwalk is meh
urban skiff
are we just saying specs now?
urban skiff
DH you’re cucked by roots and have to pre glimpse the everything to live
Blur an...
I wish they couldn't dodge haymaker so I could make darkness a true joke
fierce elm
Naa Enhance/Feral/Rogue is pretty hard to play at the top level @urban skiff
lavish quest
Hot take. Arms is the worst class. It does so much damage that when it hits into thorns it kills itself
frank knoll
Imagine if you couldn’t bladestorm or avatar because mage has u in an RnG root
That’s what it’s like being a DH
fierce elm
Rather, really hard
hot solstice
dead by op barrier
urban skiff
Naa Enhance/Feral/Rogue is pretty hard to play at the top level <@20539547478458...
oooh, i didn't get that it was an answer to the comment about dh being highest skillcap
hot solstice
BUFF UNHOLY
fierce elm
like every day
urban skiff
tbh i tried to watch a video on how to play DH because I love the idea of them and hate everything about the execution
fierce elm
"I swear they are just crying about my spec it doesn't need nerfs!!!"
frank knoll
DH runs people over until you start facing actual good players
Then you gotta get on their level
sharp meteor
My favorite topic is which spec is highest skill especially when context is like low mmr shuff
urban skiff
but I just got dizzy from all the words when they tried to explain how to burst
like what even the fuck is all this nonsense
frank knoll
It’s the only melee class with practically no defensive
hot solstice
watch lontar team win this awc
fierce elm
My favorite topic is which spec is highest skill especially when context is like...
Low MMR shuff probs Arcane mage?
Spriest maybe?
It could be sub rogue but sub can stun and win at low MMR shuffs
urban skiff
How to burst as DH:
Ultra Glaive Rage Mode
Swoop of Pain
Blade Yell
Eyebeam of Melting
Zoom Clap
Demon Hands
Turn Into Batman
I'm so fucking lost man, just tell me which two buttons to press so I can play DH
fierce elm
Glaive and blade dance
urban skiff
why in the everliving fuck is glaive a part of rotation
fierce elm
Because dots
fierce elm
sharp meteor
Weakaura that tells me when to press my off global glimpse dh is the hardest class
hot solstice
wasnt Thor throwing his Mjolnir?
fierce elm
lmfao
urban skiff
wasnt Thor throwing his Mjolnir?
no
he was slapping the everliving shit out of giants with it
lavish quest
Arms is the hardest spec. How do you do damage when your character won't and keeps telling you're "out of range."
urban skiff
Arms is the hardest spec. How do you do damage when your character won't and kee...
played into a warrior in 2s couple nights ago with my wife. Was on my kthuman shaman and i had unleash shields on the goblin map
3 knockbacks + roots + slows and he just lost his fucking shit when he got mind controlled and walked off the 4th time
Warrior isn't hard to play
warrior is hard to not lose your mind playing
hot solstice
50% arms there could get +400 if they binded dstance no cap
I miss good old sharpen right when gates open
lavish quest
Biggest skill cap in the game
fierce elm
I miss Sharpen
lavish quest
Everyone thinks it's so asy to press mortal strike. But no one considers the game is designed to not let you press it
urban skiff
I miss good old sharpen right when gates open
that reminds me, why am I seeing people with sharpen buff out the gates? Are they hitting CS before mounting up?
hot solstice
ms hits the least
worldly oriole
NICE IT booted me off wow soon as we pulled first dungeon boss
urban skiff
NICE IT booted me off wow soon as we pulled first dungeon boss
it's a sign
for you to play enhancement
would have never happened if you had been enhancement
hot solstice
that reminds me, why am I seeing people with sharpen buff out the gates? Are the...
ahahahahaha, proly warbreaker but thats next lvl
urban skiff
how long do they have to consume sharpen?
hot solstice
damn parsing
urban skiff
and is just next time you use MS
yeah but warbreaker cooldown going down while they don't consume sharpen
urban skiff
if it works like this, they warbreaker, mount up, waste time running in circles at start then charge and have 2x sharpens
fierce elm
So MS-WARBREAKER-MS would apply sharpen damage amp on both
But the sharpen damage amp does not stack
urban skiff
that seems kind of unintentional
fierce elm
It probably is
worldly oriole
i was actually psyched up
fierce elm
NICE IT booted me off wow soon as we pulled first dungeon boss
go PvP
worldly oriole
rip
urban skiff
But the sharpen damage amp does not stack
yea i get that, but they would just wait for their 2nd ms to be ready, right? 8 seconds of sharpen instead of 4 seems a big deal
worldly oriole
yeah lemme go heal more on my rdruid. lost like 300 rating on him below 1800 from disconnects..
hot solstice
nah 3 sec from colo isnt worth
urban skiff
presharpen -> charge avatar ms -> then warbreaker bladestorm after sharpen expires?
worldly oriole
super disheartening
urban skiff
or whatever warriors do these days
fierce elm
yea i get that, but they would just wait for their 2nd ms to be ready, right? 8 ...
It doesnt stack
urban skiff
why doesn't it stack?
fierce elm
It replaces
fierce elm
It just doesnt
fierce elm
Oh like that
urban skiff
you don't hit warbreaker until sharpen gone
hot solstice
well u press first, wait 4sec than wb into another mortal
fierce elm
yeah you could if you can get sharpen pre-lobby
urban skiff
pretty sure you actually can pre-lobby. Gates opening removes buffs with durations
huh
fierce elm
this sounds like stuff thst doesnt matter
urban skiff
It sounds like stuff that matters a lot in the first few seconds of the game but doesn't matter near the end
Doubling sharpen during your first set of cooldowns would be sort of significant in forcing some reactive cooldowns, right?
Or just be something to be aware of at low ratings as part of the package deal of escaping low ratings
graceful moon
very healthy for the game
elfin surge
I don't like people using class representation to judge the strength of it.
pastel swan
You see what you wanna see
Ya feral busted
Every lobby on my feral I feel like it’s a good lobby
urban skiff
I don't like people using class representation to judge the strength of it.
At the very least they need to normalize the class representation list around the median and average ratings for the specs.
In theory you could have the most popular spec in the world be 500 rating worse than everything else and a representation graph wouldn't show that.
elfin surge
At the very least they need to normalize the class representation list around th...
does the average player (1500cr) care what class is strong or do they just play whatever they want that looks fun
fierce elm
somewhat
urban skiff
does the average player (1500cr) care what class is strong or do they just play ...
-
is average even 1500 anymore?
-
maybe, maybe not.
But at least having it in mind when looking at other numbers should give a clearer picture.
elfin surge
I believe 1600 is average rating
But are you suggesting they balance the game off the 1600 players?
urban skiff
seems like average is 1550 atm
graceful moon
its already balanced for the shittiest players wdym
sharp meteor
actual avg of people who press q is like duelist or som
people who played 5 games for conq arent real
elfin surge
actual avg of people who press q is like duelist or som
Thats probably the average of a long term pvp main
sharp meteor
just among people who actually q
elfin surge
I thought you need like 1400 to count as a player
urban skiff
But are you suggesting they balance the game off the 1600 players?
should balance more around the middle where the most people are. The goal should be to have a game that is the most balanced for the most amount of people, while still having tolerable levels of balance at the top.
Having absolutely knife's edge perfect balance at only the top is not going to keep the hobby alive as long as something that invites new players in.
sharp meteor
cant balance the depths
no way to make arcane good at 500 mmr without rendering actual games unplayable
elfin surge
Warrior would suffer at high end if they balance it
graceful moon
explain to me in warrior terms how is ret allowed to have spellwarding, loh and bubble
elfin surge
its a noob slayer class
sharp meteor
ya and warr often does
graceful moon
and actively avoid magic dmg like its nothing
sharp meteor
unholy arms own elite set mmr gamers
urban skiff
no way to make arcane good at 500 mmr without rendering actual games unplayable
technically they can
with the new button lol
sharp meteor
zercher have u ever said anything good
urban skiff
They can't make it balanced across all, but they can uplift the bottom
urban skiff
zercher have u ever said anything good
I said i respect your opinion many times
I'm also not going to change who I am or what I say, so I think it's time you maybe save yourself the pain of whatever you're trying to accomplish with comments like that.
elfin surge
LOL
urban skiff
I told my wife you're famous and I CAN'T PROVE IT
sharp meteor
urban skiff
rate my hpal mog
elfin surge
I'm hpal main
elfin surge
rate my hpal mog
ass
urban skiff
my war mog better?
elfin surge
breh
elfin surge
I've only played like 25,000 2v2s
fierce elm
this season
urban skiff
but for arenas played?