pvp

[urban skiff]

That's because vers is a DEAD STAT

That NOBODY TAKES

Stack more CRIT

🐒

[fierce elm]

Wait isn't the one shot thing on Wrath?

I cant find the fucking talent and it annoys me

Yeah thats the wrath set up

from OP Wrath was 'only' doing 1.5m something

which isnt wild for Incarn Wraths

If only the FUCK would post his death log as well and not just the clip

[urban skiff]

It's wrath yes. Star surge buffs something

[fierce elm]

lmao MES is running it rn

this is so fucking dumb

[urban skiff]

It takes 3x star surges before the regrowth and treants to do.

This is super telegraphed

[fierce elm]

yep, yet this AWC team almost died to it despite knowing its coming

and yet they killed the 2.4 team they faced despite them also having aboomkin lmao

[urban skiff]

Pretty sure at AWC levels, there's no "almost" in the same sense as ours.

[fierce elm]

oh no they dropped to sub 10% lmao

and panicked

but man this is hilarious, both boomies jsut running around farming a proc and stacks kke

[urban skiff]

But that's not dead.

They have a better faster car, they're on a straight path and they're ahead of the other car. Both maxing out speed.

There is no point where they're almost overtaken.

But make boomies great again. I love fighting them. Ez kills

Almost as easy as warriors

[fierce elm]

pls no

[frail badge]

i was thinking about re subbing and trying to get the 1800 transmog like i do sometimes but anyone else think this seaons set is horrible?

[fierce elm]

Do you think it's horrible?

[frail badge]

yeah

its super plain looking and i dont like the purple variant

[fierce elm]

So base it around your own opinion then if you want it or not lmao

[frail badge]

i am but i wanted to know what others think

[fierce elm]

I think its a neat set that works well with other pieces

[frail badge]

i like the hunter set and rogue set so i might do them

[fierce elm]

particularly the regular Conquest one

works really well with Mythic Tomb of Sargeras gear

Mostly once you get the glowy version which is 2.5 in m+ or 2400 in PvP

I don't mind the purple set but it's a bit too dark

Works real well in combination with the purple plunderstorm set

[frail badge]

wait what? i thought you get the best verison of it at 1800

there is another version with other effects at 2400?

[fierce elm]

Its the basic colorways with the mythic/1800 glow

[frail badge]

oh i think i just misunderstood then

i loved s1 and s2 warrior sets of dragonflight for warrior

those have been my fave so far

im glad i got those

[urban skiff]

It's not great.
It's not terrible.

[frail badge]

its not bad by it self but imo it looks to similar to past sets

how are queue times now for solo queue arena and solo queue battlegrounds if you dont mind me asking?

[fierce elm]

They are okay

tbh

On my warrior at 2.4 I am getting about 10-25 minute queues

Ret at 2.1 its about 10-15 minutes

SS

[frail badge]

oh ok so maybe less at 1800 and less

[fierce elm]

Its definitely okay

I just od other stuff in queue

[frail badge]

i always just play to get 1800 to get the cool transmog

thanks yall for answering my questions

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/s/RH6MVbvssq

@fierce elm rate this video's advice but for enh shaman. Also i linked the thread instead of video because drama is bound to happen.

[fierce elm]

do damage

*As a warrior myself (alt) I can tell u this is not so easy as u think. Some specs are really hard to connect. Also warrior almost has no def cds at all. For example Arms has single shield wall which can be predisarmed. And charge can be interrupted in mid way by almost every micro cc.

Ofc if u stand still and tank all damage so warrior is scary. But if u know how to kite a bit and have some peels from ur teammates then warrior has much troubles.*

Warrior players try not to cope challenge impossible

[fickle forge]

*As a warrior myself (alt) I can tell u this is not so easy as u think. Some specs are really hard to connect. Also warrior almost has no def cds at all. For example Arms has single shield wall which can be predisarmed. And charge can be interrupted in mid way by almost every micro cc.

Ofc if u stand still and tank all damage so warrior is scary. But if u know how to kite a bit and have some peels from ur teammates then warrior has much troubles.*

[urban skiff]

Haha, that's the one that made me link

Warrior only feels hard because other specs are balanced against warrior mobility when they hand out cc and snares and mobility

[fierce elm]

Warrior is fucking absurdly busted

and so fucking simple to play lmao

[urban skiff]

Idk about that. Pretty ez to kill

Or maybe enh is just overtuned

[fierce elm]

The only skill expression you have is mobility usage and fucking d-stance usage

[urban skiff]

[fierce elm]

YOU ARE THE ONLY ENHANCE I KNOW THAT HAS A WINNING RECORD INTO WARRIOR

[urban skiff]

Tbh the worse a warrior is, the more likely i am to lose

[urban skiff]

My coping mechanism is total extinction of warriors

[fierce elm]

Also totally found myself gatekeeping rating metnally rn

Because they said higher ratings and its like 2.2

or 2k in 2s

[urban skiff]

Just black out when gates open and come back to when the score screen shows

[urban skiff]

What even is higher rating these days? Is it numeric or is it % based on ladder ?

[fierce elm]

idk

2k is probs high

[urban skiff]

My 2s mmr right now is 2k but my rating is like 1600

Because i rolled a new shaman that looks better and i haven't caught up to wife yet

[rancid granite]

1800 is like being able to do your first pull up

[fierce elm]

1800 is pretty high then lmao

[urban skiff]

I rate 1800 around the same as pressing 100kg

It takes significant work to get there.

Once you do, you don't feel it's an accomplishment anymore, and you forgot how much you had to improve.

It puts you significantly above average

[rancid granite]

can't go wrong with some gym analogies

[copper fox]

I have no idea what a single hpal button does and I hit 1800 in a day in mostly greens

I still don’t know what they do

Going to do ww monk today I assume that’ll be easy but I’m also in greens

[copper fox]

Unless your fat

Then 2400 is your first pull up

Rate my success post patch

@fierce elm

[fickle forge]

This be the worst feeling

You struggle for months to get something, and when you finally have it it just feels hollow

[urban skiff]

Literally how i felt hitting 1800 first time this season. Over 400 rounds played for something basic and easy last season. Then i did it again in my usual speed on a fresh shaman.

No fucking clue what is going on, other than that i must have been cursed by the queue gods

[urban skiff]

If i weight 100kg and can't do more than 12 pullups, how fat is my rating

[fickle forge]

It's a good thing Seramate out here proving I am Q'ing lumberjack cleave

[urban skiff]

The heck is lumberjack

[fickle forge]

Double arms

[urban skiff]

Thats funny

[copper fox]

It’s fat. I can’t do 12 pull ups in a set

Not good ones at least

[fickle forge]

What rating are you if you're Grizzly doing pullups

https://tenor.com/view/bloatlord-kyriakos-grizzly-bloatmaxx-full-flex-gif-16423118

[urban skiff]

My pullup game got good when my 2 year old daughter started cheering for me and helping me by lifting my feet at the bottom.

Like bruv, stop ruining my reps.

[urban skiff]

He dont do pullups. He do pulldowns

Just rack straight into the ground

[copper fox]

Mlord can probably do a set of 50 full rom

[elfin surge]

@fickle forge

[fickle forge]

@elfin surge

[full quiver]

Lol

[pastel swan]

Didn’t yall say deva arms isn’t a good comp? It feels kinda good rn with all the rdrus bc of purging hots and swapping

[fickle forge]

Ah ye but you see

The way WoW works is that if you pair S tier with S tier, you get S tier

[sharp meteor]

Budget thunder

[fickle forge]

Deva and arms got practically no synergy lmao

Intervene your lizard, and he hovers off out of range

[sharp meteor]

Warr doesn't sync up as well with dragon as something with more cc

It's alrightish tho

Arms dev chasing single isolated tar kind uf scuffed

[pastel swan]

Yeah we tried thunder, but i guess my guy’s ele wasn’t as good

[fickle forge]

You're obviously gonna perform better on main specs

But thunder is just infinitely better as a comp

[pastel swan]

It’s our first time tryna hit glad. It’s my 2nd/3rd-ish ssn playing wow

[fickle forge]

I'd def recommend thunder then

Once you hit the range where all the mages and ferals roam, you're gonna get your nuts cracked with deva+arms

[copper fox]

Arms dragon isn’t going to hit glad this ssn if it’s your first

You’re going to hit a wall

Un winnable games

You have to play Thunder if it’s an option and your ele needs to learn

[pastel swan]

Does it have to be with an rdru

[copper fox]

No

[pastel swan]

Or is hpriest ok

Ok our healer hpriest main

[copper fox]

Can do it with any healer besides pres

Pres Thunder is F tier everything else it fine. Obviously there’s better/worse options but it’ll all work

[pastel swan]

We played dev feral ln but the dev arms went way better for some reason. Feral just doesn’t have those 4 mil executes lmao

[copper fox]

It went better because arms is dumb rn but that won’t work to glad lol

Better off getting a shit ton of reps with your ele and letting him learn

Eventually you’ll just be much better

[fickle forge]

Feral is the best melee at high mmr rn

[copper fox]

Yea

Feral can also play with literally anything

[pastel swan]

Yeah. We were getting some strats with feral like doing goes on healer and swapping a lot getting cds. I just didn’t quite have that punch

[fickle forge]

Deva doesn't suck, but it'll feel ass when you run into mage and ele on repeat

[pastel swan]

Maybe it’s just a me problem bc I’m the feral LOL

[fickle forge]

Any FMP team will leech your cr

[pastel swan]

first ssn playing feral

[copper fox]

The problem with dev arms is you’re just going to kite your own warrior

Eventually

Ele locks ppl down when it kites

[fickle forge]

Deva in general doesn't synergize with a lot of specs

[sharp meteor]

Thundo is once again the way

[copper fox]

Yes

[sharp meteor]

Laser dragon is weird

[copper fox]

It’s clunky

[fickle forge]

My rule of thumb is that if your spec can't synergize with warrior, your spec either lacks utility or a rogue

Cause literally every class in this game can play with warrior and be at least mid

[copper fox]

Or is a range with no roots

[sharp meteor]

Dev just isn't as versatile as ele or msge

[copper fox]

Dev and lock suck with war

Lock use to work

[sharp meteor]

Now lock needs more cc

[copper fox]

Yea

[sharp meteor]

Dev just awk

Maybe if cleaves were more of a thing dev would own

[fickle forge]

WLX whenever affli is good still works, but it ain't like back then

[copper fox]

Yea again one of the issues is lock just kites its own warrior because it doesn’t root when it kites

Like ele mage and hunter can

And ofc war can’t cc for lock

Lock is so cucked this xpac lol

[fickle forge]

Destro be fun with bolts

2 casts is like 7.2M

[copper fox]

Double coil double bolt is probably one of the most satisfying things to do it’s true

[pastel swan]

Destro rog looks fun

[copper fox]

Yea that’s a good comp but

The problem

Is

It’s warr ret meta now

Again

So that comp auto loses

[pastel swan]

I prob need to just get vods on my feral and stop being a bitch

[copper fox]

Warr ret can’t lose to locks

You have to be

So bad

Like unrealistically bad

[pastel swan]

What do the ferals you guys see do well at the higher MMR?

Bc obviously feral can be squishy if ur not careful

[copper fox]

Unlimited damage and cc

And they’re fucking all over the map

It’s so annoying

They have the whole package this xpac

[pastel swan]

Yeah but outside of incarn, feral isn’t one shotting shit

So they just kite a lot

Sometimes it felt like the ret warrs cycled thru my ele/healers cds way too quickly

[fickle forge]

They live pretty well

Anticipate damage and pre-bear goes

[pastel swan]

But if you just tunnel the feral what do you see them do? Root/stun and run?

I think it’s just getting better at creating winning goes. With warrior you can just rando 50-0 someone. Can’t do that on feral 😦 deff more damp it feels

[fickle forge]

I mean yeah they just do Maim goes and then run off to fish for clones in between

Rip Rake is your full damage anyway

[white kiln]

any reason to not get a 50/50 split haste mastery?

[copper fox]

Yea the reason is it’s worse

[white kiln]

pretty good one at that

[copper fox]

But feral creates more opportunities for its partners which is why it’s better

Outside of comparing dmg etc

[copper fox]

@sharp meteor this is actually funny because it’s insane how many people refuse to do orbs

[fickle forge]

I refuse to do orbs

Can't have my KD ruined

[sharp meteor]

Ya nobody wants to take bonus dmg

Or grabs at bad times

Also not in position to pick next one going down

[elfin surge]

bg bleh

[sharp meteor]

I'm always like 450 points

[fierce elm]

whats the nerfs looking like my fav 2s streamer

[elfin surge]

Warrior execute nerfs inc

[fierce elm]

There we go

[sharp meteor]

It's so over bfa arms soon

[pastel swan]

I knew mud would come thru

[elfin surge]

I haven't heard anything specific

[pastel swan]

But nerfs inc still?

[elfin surge]

but i know a lot of people talkin ab warrior

[pastel swan]

U were p sure for fury nerfs. So not so sure about arms just yet?

[green wharf]

mortal strike nerfed by 25%
Execute nerfed by 15%
slam buffed by 5%

You can quote me later

[elfin surge]

The people who have connects are crying ab arms warrior execute so

probably

[sharp meteor]

Lord smexxin will never let warr be below a+ tier again

[pastel swan]

It is p crazy lmao

[sharp meteor]

Noob stomper spec

[fickle forge]

My prediction is Execute nerf and bleeds compensation buff

If any

[green wharf]

for sure

[fierce elm]

Bleed compensation lmfao

[green wharf]

just because im having fun witht he no bleeds build

they will force me to use it again

[sharp meteor]

You will rend

[green wharf]

[pastel swan]

This will be the rend of us all

[green wharf]

[copper fox]

Fury needs a buff

Did you guys see what happened to me after the nerf??? I’m fucking cooked

BUFF FURY

[fierce elm]

lmfao

True you did wash up

[fickle forge]

Need ma man Afro to wake up to how good colossus is

[fierce elm]

surely

[pastel swan]

U fr? I’ve only played it a couple times but never do as well as slayer haha

[fierce elm]

He isnt

its not good

[copper fox]

yea he’s fr. Spec out of slayer strikes that randomly kill mages the 2 times you get to touch them in a game

[fierce elm]

lmao

[pastel swan]

Ok. Something about his name gave that vibe that he was but what do I know

[fierce elm]

randomly kills anything*

[copper fox]

Yea I love when I didn’t press another ability but something dies

I gotta get my ww to 1800 today

I’m bored so I’m doing every melee to 2.4 this season

For shits

In ss ofc

@fierce elm my plan to not care about rating on hpal stopped almost immediately

I don’t think I can game

Without caring

I’m sick

[urban skiff]

lizard can pick you up and now if the enemy follows the voker then they're on top of a warrior. MAD and LOSE/LOSE

[copper fox]

Lunch # 1

[sharp meteor]

Coke zero

[urban skiff]

when's the last time people complimented your fit?

I get these like 10 times a day

[sharp meteor]

Same but on dk. 😭

[copper fox]

Is there a rotation on ww? I’ve just been pressing what’s available

Lmao

[urban skiff]

it's the same as enh then

[copper fox]

Yea actually no one answer that idc enough

[urban skiff]

@fickle forge assuming i start trying a little bit, how should we be rotating cc as disc+enh?

[sharp meteor]

What cc dawg

[urban skiff]

sundering, 2x cap stun, hex?

fear/mind control?

idk, i don't know anything about enh

i just like the sound stormstrike makes

[fickle forge]

Fear into Hex

[copper fox]

Why do I do 7 million dps in my burst window not fully geared in monk

That’s dumb

[fickle forge]

Cap totem some random place and then move it onto the dps so you can get Hex off

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[fierce elm]

My lunch today was sleeping

[pastel swan]

On my ele I had an @cursor for my totems

Helped so much so Totem of wrath and grounding didn’t get one shot

[fierce elm]

Why does Boomkin do 6.5m Wraths

lmao

[copper fox]

Boomkins are part of the reason I tanked so hard on my fury

[pastel swan]

Damn this dude trolling

We saw that

[fierce elm]

Boomkins are so fucking sleeper disgusting straight up

[copper fox]

They’re not even sleeper anymore

They’re insane

[fierce elm]

Like what the fuck

[urban skiff]

can't do that, cap totem goes off before hex finishes casting

[pastel swan]

Boomie DH stonks up

[fierce elm]

Tanky, does unhealable damage

[copper fox]

Just bear and clone until incarn

Literally the gameplay

[robust hearth]

Is feral good at all or did I miss tht with season 1?

[pastel swan]

They can almost one shot in their tree go every 45 secs

[copper fox]

It’s great in arena but I wouldn’t say it’s amazing in blitz

[urban skiff]

tree go is 1 minute, no?

[pastel swan]

Ya ur right

It’s been a while

[copper fox]

When is awc

[urban skiff]

does bear even do anything if you keep hitting into it?

[copper fox]

No you just live forever

[urban skiff]

yea but, besides frenzied regen they take normal plate levels of damage, right?

[pastel swan]

Bear is lots of extra armor

[urban skiff]

It's not even a dstance so just hit them

[urban skiff]

not more than warrior has and you'll hit warriors

[pastel swan]

Like 20-30% phys reduction I think

[fierce elm]

23rd

[pastel swan]

No bear is like 30% phys reduction

Boomie form also has a lot of armor

[copper fox]

Alright thats when I’ll finish glad. Like awc weekend + the 3 days after are safe to q

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[copper fox]

Otherwise it’s just flop and cdew team 24/7

[pastel swan]

It’s just hard for melee to stay on a boomie if he rly wants to kite

Between flap and wild charge and 40% movement speed on tireless pursuit

While they spam surges for 1-2 mil

[green wharf]

Best thing is to kill people while stunned with slayer strike

imagine trading that for a skill you cant use like demolish

[urban skiff]

you think wrong. Bearform increases armor by 220%

[pastel swan]

If u hover over the phys damage it’s like 30% normal and 60% in beR

Bear

[urban skiff]

everything else is more armor and stamina

what does your plate say?

when you do the same

[pastel swan]

idk

[urban skiff]

when i target a player my DR is 23%ish from armor

with pvp stats up

[pastel swan]

Ur kinda proving my point

[urban skiff]

not really

[pastel swan]

Boomie in bear has more armor than warrior in d stance

[urban skiff]

220% increase to armor when baseline is worse than mail is not going to take them to 60%

[pastel swan]

The type of armor doesn’t even matter these days lmao

[urban skiff]

Bear form puts armor around the same as a warrior with shield

[pastel swan]

And you’re not playing prot so why mention shield LMAO

[urban skiff]

because bear form is literally just raising the druid to have the same armor values as a prot war

[pastel swan]

I’ve played both and I can tell u from experience boomie in bear is way tankier than warrior in dstance

Not prot but arms and fury

[green wharf]

prot is way squishier now compared to S1

[sharp meteor]

Trueeee buff prot

[urban skiff]

tank specs take 35% more damage

[green wharf]

i died to a fucking ret the other day, bitch ass class

[sharp meteor]

It's considerably more than 35

[urban skiff]

their survivability does not scale as fast as dps specs dps+35%

[pastel swan]

Tanks take the most dam in arena

[green wharf]

it didnt matter in S1

they got nerf in rage regen and ignore pain

[urban skiff]

Did you miss what I wrote?

[green wharf]

did you also miss they got nerfed in in s2

[urban skiff]

It's not about the nerf. It's about how numbers work.

When dps gains 1000k dps from season change increasing gearing, the prot takes 1350k more dps fromthem.

Prot would have to gain defensive powers at a rate that is 35% higher than what the dps gains. Prot turns dps stats into defensive stats at a 1:1

[copper fox]

Playing characters in greens is hilarious

I just do nothing sometimes but when I win it’s so satisfying

[urban skiff]

getting pretty serious now

why are warriors so easy

huh

advice on how to stop their burst?

[copper fox]

Losing to SP pres is sus

[urban skiff]

wife's will of the forsaken kept getting removed from her bars

[copper fox]

lol rip

[urban skiff]

no clue why, we made a macro and that stays

funky shit goiing on, used shield totem but didn't get the shield

WHY ARE ELE SHAMANS SO EASY TO FIGHT LOL

[fierce elm]

because you knowledge check them

[urban skiff]

lmao

no it's because i did 9m in 1 second

but also knowledge checks

He wanted me out in the open for the big bursts but whenever that happened I put in bigger burst

who the fuck needs cc

[lavish quest]

This guy does

[green wharf]

shit i killed a ret as arms while getting crates

this no bleeds build is no joke

for sure nerf is coming

[pastel swan]

Did he not press 1 of his 15 abilities

[green wharf]

he was too busy trying to survive i guess

[urban skiff]

LOOK AT THESE META MICHAELS

[fierce elm]

what the hell do you MEAN

[green wharf]

Seems like wow meta these days is burst the other people as quickly as possible, so they dont burst on you

[pastel swan]

We buss on each other

[fierce elm]

So almost like it has been forever

[rancid granite]

WoW meta being kill someone asap before they kill you

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-stare-cat-staring-staring-cat-daladada-gif-23650468

[fierce elm]

n o w a y

I do wonder what 1600 takes are gonna appear today after arms nerfs notes goes live

(Not calling you 1600 here)

Just something I thought about

[green wharf]

yeah but you could relly on defensive cds more

and isnt like, you die in 5 seconds

[fast basalt]

what so good about battlefield commander that everyone runs it?

is it the extra stam? or the cdr on fear?

[pastel swan]

Everything

[fierce elm]

Everything practically

[green wharf]

read the spell

[fast basalt]

or the 3min root break?

i obviously have read it, im not an experienced pvp warr

[fierce elm]

Lets see, 3% more stam, larger range on shout tremor break, CDR on fear, Rally root break+move speed and 5% more damage from ALL sources when dragon roar bleed

[urban skiff]

root break

[green wharf]

it buffs a lot of stuff

[urban skiff]

is a big one

[fierce elm]

That is a whole lot of good stuff

[fast basalt]

okidokie thankyou

[fierce elm]

Its like a goodie bag of your 8 favorite cookies but just small nibbles of it

[fast basalt]

i didnt think the root break would be so great on 3min cd, do we also take the rallying cdr one?

[fierce elm]

You sometimes can

I wouldn't

Generally our third slot is pretty flexible

[fast basalt]

yah top on murlok i see is using commander, sharpen and disarm

can i use duel to peel or is it memeworthy?

[green wharf]

its not just the root break, everything else is also great

[fierce elm]

somewhat meme worthy

Warriors are really good kill targets rn

[pastel swan]

I kinda like duel in low mmr shuffles with fdks where ur healer dies in round 1 without pressing but thats all

[urban skiff]

lose to random shit and beat warriors

lol

[fast basalt]

the other one i wanted to ask about was rebound, is this great into wizards or is the increased cd on reflect gonna bite me in the ass with polys etc

[fierce elm]

Its decent into stuff that has very projected casts

in general your spell reflect is gonna be randomly taken off by piss

but for example into Destro it can be pretty good

[pastel swan]

Destro

[urban skiff]

unleash shield into arms warrior is just trolling him

BOOP

git back ya

[pastel swan]

Did something change that made them good kts

I’m semi new to warr so Idr

[fierce elm]

A lot of magic damage floating around

Most warriors aren't utilizing d-stance well

[sharp meteor]

Fury been good kill target

Arms depends

[fast basalt]

thanks for all the answers guys appreciate it 🙂

i think im going to be arms over fury if that changes anything

[fierce elm]

Yeah Fury f l o p s

[pastel swan]

Yeah fury gets fucked up fs

I usually go ret in shuffle but if it ret fury im tempted to just go fury and hope the ret is an embassil

I spelled that shit wrong fs

[fierce elm]

imbecile

is the word you are looking for

[pastel swan]

Lmfao

Guess I’m the imbecile

Warrior brain only took weeks to set in

Fuck

[fast basalt]

is arms like, slightly below fury atm and people just like the edge, or is it far sub par?

[fierce elm]

Arms is higher than Fury

by a decent amount

[fast basalt]

wait what! good stuff 😄

[pastel swan]

Until 5-8pm PST NA

[fast basalt]

i thought fury has been on top for quite a while

[fierce elm]

Naa Fury got nerfed

Arms got buffed

[fast basalt]

slayer is the go to ya?

[fierce elm]

yes

[pastel swan]

https://tenor.com/view/look-what-yep-this-gif-13617583

[fierce elm]

We are expecting notes today that will say Arms is being nerfed next reset

lmao

[fast basalt]

eh itll be okay 🙂

i picked arms for the fun factor thinking fury was a lot better

so means no diff to me i guess, until i get hardstuck at least

[pastel swan]

We’re all 1600 here so it doesn’t even matter

[urban skiff]

well that was a short arena

healer sat 13.3 seconds of cc in a match that was 33 seconds long including the "run in" time

[fast basalt]

im a bit gutted my warr doesnt have my hunters tier gear

he has speed on every item

[pastel swan]

Yeah someone was showing how their hunter had like 188% move speed

[fierce elm]

Those aren't active in PvP

so dont worry

[pastel swan]

Does anyone want to buy a race change for me

Im a cow who needs to be a midget

[fast basalt]

not at all...?

i thought was juts 50% nerf

ive been using catalyst charges on the speed shit for that reason hahaha

[urban skiff]

cow better

why change

what's the beef

[pastel swan]

I wish it was

For the mog

But it’s actually some bullshit

[fierce elm]

I have considered going gnome

but I also wanna say fuck that

[urban skiff]

is there a pattern here?

[pastel swan]

The amount of roots I sit in insane

I even try ping macros

[pastel swan]

Mb you don’t know shit about other classes or how to beat them like u do warr 🤣🤣

[urban skiff]

sure

[pastel swan]

I’m messing bro LMAO

[urban skiff]

wife just set new all time record again

[pastel swan]

Which one

[urban skiff]

the disc

[fast basalt]

i have a couple more questions if it was okay,

is arms either of the following, tankier than fury, or harder to kite than fury

and sneaky followup question, what is our biggest hitter, i thought from memory MS and execute hurt, but overpower seems to be doin a lotta shiny stuff

[fierce elm]

Anything hits hard

[elfin surge]

arms tankier

both kited the same

everything hits hard

[green wharf]

honestly feels the same, and to me fury feels tankier

[elfin surge]

its okay to be wrong

[sharp meteor]

in what plane of existence is fury tankier

[pastel swan]

I think fury harder to kite fs

[fast basalt]

thankyou 🙂 yeah im very early on in my journey

im just playing whackamole on the flashy buttons atm

[pastel swan]

CDR on bladestorm

[green wharf]

dunno its just how i feel playing 🤷🏾‍♂️

[pastel swan]

And CDR on the other root break

[sharp meteor]

fury is generally smoother dmg profile with higher dmg output so you make one guy shit his pants perma

[green wharf]

i rather have enraged regend than shit by the sword

[sharp meteor]

but you don't rly have defensives as fury you just die

[pastel swan]

Yuppp

Get ccd on enraged regen and die

[elfin surge]

slayer arms is literally fury but better

[green wharf]

arms have what

[sharp meteor]

ya was the opposite before

slayer fury just good arms

now it flipped

cos arms has buttons

and passives that make it

not explode to air

[pastel swan]

I don’t like qing into 1-2 warriors per shuffle. It happens a lot lol

[fierce elm]

I love the Quad warrior lobbies

[pastel swan]

Especially when they never press intervene

[copper fox]

Ww has too many buttons

[sharp meteor]

lov 2-3 warr lobbies

need more in my life rn

[fierce elm]

everyone either chases the 4th non-warrior

or they just fight in the middle

[pastel swan]

Lmfao

[fierce elm]

and the one who gets the biggest execute wins

[spice hornet]

MUD doesn’t even play

What stats for arms

[fierce elm]

Crit

[sharp meteor]

yo arms or fury

hey haste or mastery

where unity

[green wharf]

i fucking need haste

im rocking with wooping 12% as arms

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-ass-gif-10233873985786373148

[sharp meteor]

played like 8% haste fury with powerful last season

bloodbath for 3 million here

[green wharf]

i had like 10%

thats why my arms feels bad

bull full mastery fury isnt working that great either

[pastel swan]

Best stats for fury

Is to switch to arms

[elfin surge]

I've started gearing my third warrior noob

[sharp meteor]

what if i want something in both paws

also if we were a good class like mage fury would have goten compensation for its nerfs

[green wharf]

why is your third warrior noob?

respect into rend again to get used to the upcoming nerfs

instantly regreat, spec feels ass again

[elfin surge]

bald

[green wharf]

afro?

[sharp meteor]

is it also a gnome

[fierce elm]

its gnot a goblin

Been thinking about swapping to highmountain

or Gnome

lmao

[urban skiff]

ayooo more crit

[fierce elm]

because of the charge

[elfin surge]

what do you think man

[sharp meteor]

surely u got at least 1 orc or maghar

[fierce elm]

surely

[green wharf]

sometimes i struggle to see the appeal of gnome, 1m cd racial that free slow/root just to end up slow again

[fierce elm]

Its for the root break

not the slow

[green wharf]

yeah, you breka the root, you get rooted again

[fierce elm]

Which can be quite clutch

Personally I aint no BITCH

[sharp meteor]

then you're on dr

idk gnome kind of sick after not playin it

makes it hard to go back cos

u gotta either afk for dispel

or burn ava/reck/bs

which is usually rly bad

[copper fox]

Anyone else like when the 0 win DK is flaming people for not going healer

[fierce elm]

DK behavior

[copper fox]

DKs are either 0 wins or 6

I feel like there’s no between

And rarely the 6

[urban skiff]

you're probably right

The only time they go somewhere in the middle is when there's a strange caster who's completely carrying the game whenever he's with them

[copper fox]

lol yea they need that

[sharp meteor]

LMAO

[urban skiff]

Like the ones who know exactly how to play around dk go but then doesn't know how to play with anything else+

[sharp meteor]

ya

i feel like frost goin haeler sometimes rly good

but unh its just

so over man

[copper fox]

Yea it was unh

Actual meme

[sharp meteor]

cos some frost matchups are like

hey if we stun all 3 of you every remorse

we always win

so you sit healer

and they get crushed

unh is just ehhh

[copper fox]

Yea agreed it’s gotta be frost
Unholy also does top dmg every game with 0 kill pressure lmfao

Insane spec

[elfin surge]

I like being emoted and tbagged by moonguard players

[sharp meteor]

just the nature of playin 2s with undergeared/new healers

at least thats what i imagine you doin

[elfin surge]

ye my healer was full greens

[sharp meteor]

ya its like unh has pop every 45 and bang every 90

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-eagle-gif-418167729675118656

[sharp meteor]

outside of that its just sort of pad dmg that doesnt matter cos games usually dont last long enough

[elfin surge]

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Moon Guard/Aliudedx

[sharp meteor]

ya i just stopped chill 2sin on warr

if i q into somebody in 2s i wanna bash in their skull

not die to some 1900 rper 5 mins in cos my healer on his 23rd rdruid still in df gear

[copper fox]

Female?

[elfin surge]

how would i know

he emoted and bagged me

peak player guy is going places

[sharp meteor]

oh dang actual unchained spawn

[elfin surge]

ive noticed it always is

got bagged by a frost mage the other day

same thing

duelist but 1 glad

those seem to be the most toxic of players

[copper fox]

S2 SL are the most toxic 100%

[elfin surge]

they get egos

for no reas

[robust hearth]

Im beginning to see y ppl run spear

[copper fox]

Beginning?

[robust hearth]

I honestly hate spear

[copper fox]

People been running spear forever lol

[robust hearth]

Fighting bm hunters and frost mages

Soo many roots soo many blinks soo many slows

Even as gnome

[elfin surge]

everyone runs different talents

im still roar and spear

[robust hearth]

Do mages still do tht thin in spear where they run out ice block mid-yoink just to get out of it or has blizz fixed tht

[sharp meteor]

gettin block with spear owns

bug was if u triggerd pull

u could dash or blink out

[robust hearth]

Tht too

[fierce elm]

too many buttons to use smh

[sharp meteor]

idk roar feels eh

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-geicos-caveman-3doors-down-let-me-be-myself-song-smirk-gif-14763226113275243502

[sharp meteor]

spear is meh but sometimes good

[fierce elm]

I don't like spear so I am biased

lmao

and the 5% damage amp is probably more

[sharp meteor]

i like spear in bgs

[copper fox]

Laros ran no spear or roar

So

[fierce elm]

yeah lmao

[copper fox]

Might be the hype

To say fuck buttons

[sharp meteor]

ya neither in arena feels nice

spear sometimes

[elfin surge]

Lardos

[fierce elm]

only execute

until the nerf later tonight

[sharp meteor]

lardos fatter than mud ever was

[sharp meteor]

rend buff soon bruddas

[robust hearth]

They nerfing execute tonight?

[sharp meteor]

idk maybe

wait no two weeks

[robust hearth]

For arms or fury?

[sharp meteor]

so next week earliest surely

[robust hearth]

Bro plzz are yall meming about arms

I just geared for fury

I don't wanna grind out honor for a arms set

Fuck haste

I want to be doing bigger trucks numbers

[sharp meteor]

then play that

[worldly oriole]

Honor

winds of mysterious fortune is going away

[robust hearth]

When?

Cuz lvling has been super fast

Went from lvl 34 to 56 in 3 hrs only doing tinewalking dungeouns

[worldly oriole]

yeah its going on away tues? or maybe im wrong

ye tues

[copper fox]

Rend sucks at DH holy shit

He just memed the fk out of my lobby

Shit not rend

Rio

[spice hornet]

can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like this plz
/castsequence reset=20 Kidney shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis, Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Multilate, Envenom
but i need one for furry or arms plz n ty

@elfin surge

[elfin surge]

breh

thats so OLD

[pastel swan]

Why 2 weeks when they could nerf today

[sharp meteor]

we just had tuning

[fickle forge]

Yeah you can, 3 sec stun for a sub-2 sec cast

[cosmic field]

here you go

/castsequence reset=20 Execute, Execute, Execute, Execute, Execute, Execute, Execute, Execute, Execute, Execute, Execute, Execute

[pastel swan]

They have done it every week in the past. Didn’t know it was a rule of every week

[fierce elm]

It slows down eventually

So its entirely RNG lmao

[cosmic field]

they gotta nerf warr again before it slows down

[pastel swan]

Yeah there was 2 weeks or more when nothing happened before as well

The only constant is it’s Fridays from what I’ve seen

[fierce elm]

Fridays are notes

[robust hearth]

https://youtu.be/6hMqvb8QiUk?si=traWCeJwH3B_PYsN

Execute execute, rampage rotation

[sharp meteor]

when

did they do weekly tuning

half way through a season

[pastel swan]

April 9

April 15

I should correct myself. I didn’t mean they always do it every week. I just meant I saw back to back weeks with tuning

March 4 and March 11

But it does seem to be every 2+ weeks on avg

[fierce elm]

Time to CONTINUE ABUSING

[green wharf]

[pastel swan]

My conscience is telling me to stop abusing and go play something inferior like enhance

Or SMF Thane

[urban skiff]

Gcd + 1.3 sec cast vs 2 sec charge time = ?

[copper fox]

Watch your mouth

[cosmic field]

look at this, it's inevitable lol

idk they need to add some skill/setup to big executes

but it will probs just get nerfed

[pastel swan]

It is a bit obnoxious

I’ve never succumbed to ret warr. I’m better than that

[full quiver]

There is not a lot of skill lol

You just do the normal rotation and try to have a 3 stack going into your go before you cc

[cosmic field]

yh thats what im saying they should make it harder or at least so you actually need to pay attention to it

[north thicket]

What's the issue with Execute actually executing the target when critting for 4k on 11k healthpools? Given it is also melee ability, unlike some others. I don't fully get it.

[cosmic field]

so just make the skill ceiling higher instead of a raw nerf

it is really powerful, and really easy to play, so gets really popular

[north thicket]

It's powerful as it should be

May I ask when was the last time when a warrior won the Arena finals?

Just don't get it, powerful (but not overpowered!) and easy to play isn't exactly a great argument to gut Execute again

[cosmic field]

idk, it will def get nerfed which will suck. Just think making those big hits require a bit more skill would be better

a lot of ppl playing it cus you just get lucky crits that end games

the participation is nuts

[pastel swan]

Bc you can crit a 4-5 mil proc to get them into execute range into a 3 mil into a 3 mil into a 3 mil when they’re in execute range and getting some heals

All outside of cooldowns

That doesn’t all happen a lot. But it can

So just reducing that RNG some

[north thicket]

Are you suggesting a skill to be balanced over the rare event of an enemy player standing in melee range being chain-executed?

And the Execute doesn't actually kill the enemy player in one cast but it takes 2-3 to do the job

[pastel swan]

It’s not healthy for any class to 50-0 in one global

That’s what I’m suggesting 😂

Not even one global

0.2 secs

[north thicket]

Yeah, but this is not a correct statement righrt

[sharp meteor]

execute gonna get nerfed rip woryor

[pastel swan]

Theres not a lot of classes with spammable executes. Matter of fact, warrior is the only one I can recall

I haven’t played wow or warrior long enough to know if execute consistently hit 1/3 to 1/2 of someone’s health

[north thicket]

The other classes have the luxury of having ranged / magic executes, KS Hammer etc

Let's not exaggerate

[pastel swan]

What magical executes are there outside of shadowburn? I’m not being rude. I genuinely can’t think of one

[north thicket]

Is Hammer of Wrath not considered a magic execute? The damage is not that impressive as it used to be nowadays

[pastel swan]

Yeah, that’s right. I have seen it hit once in a blue moon for 2.7 mil

But that kinda proves my point. I’ve hit back to back to back 3.1 mil executes lol

[north thicket]

DK's Reaper isn't considered an execute too? Don't play dk, don't know deatils

[pastel swan]

Warrior has its weaknesses like every class. If it had 100% uptime on every class it would kill everything in 3 seconds

[north thicket]

Back to back 3.1 mil executes = back to back crits? 0.1*0.1 = 1% chance it happens at best

[pastel swan]

Skill issue

[north thicket]

Other classes also may kill a warrior ~3 globals, even from range

[pastel swan]

Ya and I’d argue that’s broken too haha

Mm hunters out here hitting 5 mil aimed shots into 4 mil black arrows sometimes still

Also needs to be nerfed

[north thicket]

Absolutely agree

Why bringing up Execute when MM and stuff are out there from 40yards with that dmg?

MM hurts on plate, I can only imagine how it hurts on cloth/leather

Bottom line

[pastel swan]

Yeah. I mean we have mobility to line it and pillars

[north thicket]

If the enemy player is within Execute range he should be scared

That's fair

[pastel swan]

Yeah. The thing is rn they don’t have to be in execute range to still be scared 🤣

Bc of RNG casino 5 mil executes

[pastel swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrasad-gif-23310565

[worldly oriole]

just hit an upper session

ye warrior can do 40% of my life in on hit on DH

regardless of hp pool i feel like

[chilly pivot]

are u guys hitting 2400 in solo shuffle yet?

as arms

[worldly oriole]

im hitting 2250 😦

[chilly pivot]

u soon there

[worldly oriole]

too tilted to que right now

im 2250 on dh and ww but lost some on each

[copper fox]

Yea was so hard

[copper fox]

Wait Mags discord is subs not for every channel now? Lmfao what a greedy 2s only player. Mans literally playing 2s or sitting in dorn not even qd

[worldly oriole]

classic community was just better. and everyone knows that

[frank knoll]

@worldly oriole are you still pushing m+

[worldly oriole]

MAYBE just doin timewalk on my 2nd priest rn

why

@frank knoll

[frank knoll]

I’m trying to push on VDH
Don’t understand why this is the giga meta tank
HP bar is all over the place unless I spec 100% defensive and it doesn’t hold aggro well
VDH cord is like “L2P”

I did a low Priory and kept dropping threat

[worldly oriole]

whats your ilvl

[frank knoll]

646 in PvE

[worldly oriole]

lol yeah thats weak

im like 650

[frank knoll]

Hmm so prolly just a gear thing

The VDH cord is saying you can easily tank 10s with like a 635 ilvl
How tf

[fickle forge]

You don't do it during charge time, you do it during stun time so it connects

[frank knoll]

They also hate that Yodatv guy which is funny

[worldly oriole]

lmao i used to raid with yoda

if its the same one

[frank knoll]

The NA dude timing 20s

[worldly oriole]

no idea i havent kept up with anything

just raided with a yoda in BFA in a higher up guild

[frank knoll]

Typical discord mod brain from them
He’s timing world first 20s and they’re like “don’t listen to him his builds suck”

[worldly oriole]

keys are fun. problem is you gotta raid mythic basically for top end

[spice hornet]

He be crumb farming the 2.1k teams all day

[frank knoll]

I’m cool with getting KSH

I don’t think you need to be a CE raider for that

According to Dratnos and Tettles
KSH is casual

[worldly oriole]

at the end of legion i got my blood dk pretty geared off heroic runs

[copper fox]

SECOND PRIEST? Tony wtf is wrong with you

[worldly oriole]

it is tho

[copper fox]

You’re not even good at your first priest

[worldly oriole]

YEAH MY second priest is shadow only

since i have mastery on first

GETTING Haste gear on 2nd

[copper fox]

Insane

[worldly oriole]

I MEAN timewalking is free

leveling to max level is easy as piss now

[copper fox]

Solid use of time

For another 1400 character

[worldly oriole]

how do you know i wont be big on sp

im just gaming harder than ever before...

about to go back and finish torghast

[copper fox]

You realize conq is uncapped and you can just get full haste faster than lvling and gearing another priest right

[pastel swan]

https://tenor.com/view/he-aintlyin-preach-truth-facts-tho-gif-15825744

He’s turned a new leaf. No longer taking easy way out. Taking the road less traveled

Proud of u mang

[worldly oriole]

ya but then i gotta que shadow games with shit stats

or heal more games

as holy

[lavish quest]

You definitely don't need to

I don't mythic raid and I have keystone legend (next step up from KSH)

[copper fox]

????????

What

How do you plan on gearing it lmfao

You can do THE SAME THING

on an already leveled priest

And healers get 50 extra conq per game

Win or lose

[lavish quest]

Or just crate farm ape

[copper fox]

Yea exactly

[worldly oriole]

what if i wanna be a void elf

[frank knoll]

On what?

[lavish quest]

Prot war

[fierce elm]

You dont need to raid until like r1 M+

[frank knoll]

But yeah that’s what I was talking about 3k io
Dratnos and Tettles were saying that’s casual dad gamer territory which I disagree
Not the hardest thing ever but I wouldn’t call it casual lol

[fierce elm]

it isnt casual lmao

[frank knoll]

Especially if your pugging
That’s still weeks of farming crests and all of the other stuff

[spice hornet]

[green wharf]

ret casually above everyone

[spice hornet]

The problem with jumping into keys is you need like tons of crests from farming like 200 +7s

To upgrade

[fierce elm]

Or just be a 2100+ pvper

[green wharf]

or just be a master delver

[frank knoll]

Looks like Havoc needs more buffs

[green wharf]

im ilv 650 doing shit

[frank knoll]

Yeah or else you’ll just be terminally 640-650 ilvl

[full quiver]

That's why I hate pve

Omega grind no skill

[fierce elm]

you hate pve cus nobody wants you lmfao

[full quiver]

Nah i have a bunch of homies i can do it with

U just got so far behind if y don't do 10 keys a week

Its unfun

[robust hearth]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-war-within-hotfixes-for-may-16th-ret-paladin-and-marks-hunter-bug-fixes-376917?utm_source=discord-webhook

did they nerf it again!?!?!?

[fierce elm]

naaa

Old hotfix note

just being brought over

[robust hearth]

this statement right here is why i quit raiding

having to do 10 keys a week

when i absolutely hate keystones

they're boring af

and being forced to go through them, maybe if i could solo them it might not be as bad

but even then i would still dread having to do them at all

[full quiver]

Right???

Like cool im behind on dps because I pvpd this week

Even though im a bettwr player

F tier gameplay loop for me

[green wharf]

I demand specific roles in this discord, for the different specs that change our colour

DK and hunter have it

[sharp meteor]

we dont even have emoji reacts

its so over

[green wharf]

i need to know if someone is playing arms so i can ignore then

[fierce elm]

the fuck

lmao

[robust hearth]

dead discord

[sharp meteor]

marshal

[green wharf]

i refuse to acknowledge hunters have a better discord than us

[fierce elm]

because they divide people into specs?

[robust hearth]

but they do

[fierce elm]

We have two specs that are pretty much the same and interchangeable

lmfao

[worldly oriole]

I'm just gamed out Broski...

[fierce elm]

They actually have variety in their specs, we don't

[green wharf]

Its about AESTHETHICS

you wouldnt get

[fierce elm]

yeah I sure love 100 different color names

WHERE NOTES

aint no way arms remains like this for another week at minimum

[sharp meteor]

We got another whole week of curent tuning.

[fierce elm]

I aint BELIEVE IT

Time to finish my Legend I guess

[green wharf]

it would be 3, why are you thinking 100

[split hearth]

@still fractal want to pvp? 👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[verbal tangle]

Fury > Arms, all is right in the world

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/d6MzZBlNF0M

it's cdew

[urban skiff]

absolutely wild way to make a tier list

and they also removed A+

[cosmic field]

I love that sub rogue is an s tier spec but it’s actually not just because your teammates in shuffle put your shit on dr lol

[spice hornet]

Good thing you can spec assass and be one of the best shuffle specs in the game

[sharp meteor]

if only there were a way to play without rng teammates

[urban skiff]

that's why sub is classified by skillcapped as "worse at lower ratings" usually

I feel like enh is sort of in the same boat

but then based on people's opinions in here, i feel like enh is "worse at low ratings, worst at high ratings"-kind of deal?

[fierce elm]

Better at low ratings

worse at high ratings

[urban skiff]

Not sure about that. Had to work really hard to escape low ratings but coasted to 1800 after getting out of fetus league.

[fierce elm]

Yeah thats just skill issue brother lmao

Most low rated people arent quick reacting to enhance damage

Nor can they deal with enhance utility

(talking ss here mainly) but also in 3s

[urban skiff]

I dont get the hype

[fierce elm]

Its so good

[visual plover]

Another nerf bois

[urban skiff]

No

[fierce elm]

No

[fickle forge]

No

[wheat jay]

No

[rancid granite]

you're supposed to put your own sugar packets in it before you drink it

[tight rain]

From last night only playing Colossus full haste, didnt play in 2 weeks, the ilvl increase I think is more buff than the 20% execute buff

[visual plover]

Whoa didn't realize that was old news or something seemed new to me

[visual plover]

Gratz!

[visual plover]

What am I missing

[rancid granite]

grats king

colossus gang rise up

[visual plover]

I'ma give full haste arms a try

When I get my PC back Monday

It's been 2 weeks I'm dying

[fierce elm]

Its already been; its just notes updates

its been since last week

[fierce elm]

Grats but also no lmfao

the 20% execute buff was insane

[urban skiff]

Ilvl buff was 3k strength. That wasn't it

[tight rain]

As slayer, as colossus wasn't a big deal, it helps but is not near the same

[fierce elm]

Its huge as colo though what the hell

Its net even for Slayer honestly

Or like a slight buff

[visual plover]

Ah sry new to me

🙏🙏

[fickle forge]

Afro will do anything to reject colossus smh

[copper fox]

Wait is this guy saying the exe buff wasn’t good for colo

Lmfao

[tight rain]

I'm saying I notice the ilvl increase more than the Execute buff. I'm also saying that Slayer, since it presses Execute more often and have more modifiers on it, benefits more from the buff (even with the critical strike nerf).
But this is the Internet, here everyone understands what they want when they read.
My Execute as Colossus hit for the same amount as my Mortal Strike on average, and going full haste during CS my Mortal in the worst case scenario is 3 sec CD without resets or Tier Set haste.

[copper fox]

I mean. It’s simple math. Nothing to do with the internet

You didn’t notice something that’s a smaller % buff than the one that’s bigger

You’re simply contrarian for absolutely no reason

[fickle forge]

I mean ye, slayer did benefit more from the flat buff

But the ilvl increase is barely anything

We got like 4% power and HP

[green wharf]

maybe you got 4%

me? i got 30%

[worldly oriole]

Ion invented solo shuffle to increase blizz wallet.

[pastel swan]

The ilvl increase is equatable to slightly more than an extra gem per piece. Its not much

[sand sundial]

its very slim for pvp probably

[pastel swan]

Yeah my buddy did a side by side pic the other day. It’s not chit 🤣

Supatease out here acting like it’s gonna move some classes up a tier. Lmao

[sand sundial]

In PvE I could see it have some effect

For crit classes

[fierce elm]

We jave crossed the halfway mark

[wheat jay]

sheesh

[fierce elm]

Just need a quick 4-2 for top 50 again

Maybe even a 3-3

Would be pretty cool blizzard

[wheat jay]

ye but you push shuffle man

[fierce elm]

Naturally push because I am getting LEgend wins

[wheat jay]

every day afro strays further from god 😦

[fierce elm]

I guess I can decide to go 3-3 lmao

win 3 then int 3 every game

[wheat jay]

bro i once tried to int 3 games

cuz i was 3-0

xD

fam i almost won all of them xD

[fierce elm]

But I need ze wins

[worldly oriole]

WHAT TINKER is bis?

[fierce elm]

doesnt matter

[pastel swan]

Am I tripping. a ret bubbled and bopped at the same time . And I shattered but it did nothing

[fierce elm]

Gotta be turned towards them

[pastel swan]

I thought i was

Which would it shatter? Only one?