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oh
that basically doesnt exist anymore right
at least it was quick
lol
Then wrist curl it upwards but also hgolds
then I rest my arm against the bench
usually got the top in my armpit
lmao
I AM TRYING MY BEST
I also sometimes do burnout sets with 'banded' curls
which is just me doing reverse curl with my wrist wrap and a plate
because I saw the arm wrestling dudes do it and those guys got massive forearms
oh i just got the heraldries from arena skirmish, took like 5 wins tho
you take a bench for wrist curls? how many dirty looks you get for stealing the bench
tell them about bent over lateral raises with a cable, it's literally a game changer for growing the small dicck head on the back of the shoulder
lol
itsa na djustable bench by the db area
we got like 10 of them
Also fuck em, im tryna be HUGE
always go get it from epic bgs instead m8, gives a 125 conq headstart towards weapons and guaranteed drop
I just do behind the back raises
or facepulls
or reverse lateral raises
or reverse pec fly
Try the cable thing, whatshisface says it's the goat and i agree
resistance curve smoother than my brain
Also I sort of hate the cable machine lmfao
Don't be scared, think of him as a peckish lover
ugh doesn't work if i don't write peggish
Less thinking more dicking
Also man the plate loaded chest press we got is so absurdly good
BUT, it only fits 4 20s per side
Nothing better than satisfying your cravings with Coke Zero amirite
@fierce elm @urban skiff
Pepsi is fake
even better, imagine drinking a fake product and enjoying it
that's like the best thing ever
"is this cola?"
"NO THIS IS AIR CALLED PEPSI AND I PAID 10 EUROS FOR IT"
10 euro tf
what the fuck
10 euro for what?
Retatrutide
and then no cravings
actual cheat code
I can’t bring myself to use that stuff lol
Or just man the fuck up
Aside from you being fooled by my name… I don’t use regarded shit
why? You’re already not natural i assume
reta just makes cutting healthier
Yea that doesn’t mean I just want to take everything lol
There’s plenty of things I won’t take
Tren being one ofc I have zero reason for it
Improved lipid profile, better insulin sensitivity, reverses liver fat buildup, better sleep considering you wont be starving during a prep….
Miracle drug
shows cardiovascular benefits as well
Its breakdown is literally ozempic with an extra step I don’t need to cut that badly lol or that hard
Bro my guy is not gonna be starving himself
lma
He is cutting to weight
Not cutting for BB stage prep
All he cares about is keeping his lifts
2k total next year then I’ll bodybuilding and do gay for pay like they all do
Amirite
If you haven’t stepped on stage you’re not a bodybuilder but if you’re a bodybuilder it’s in the social contract to do gay for pay
Exactly
actually true
Yeah im sure theres no need for powerlifting. In bodybuilding its already starting to be used for gaining phases, when in a surplus, for nutrient partitioning
Promising drug
There is no need for powerlifting to use any cutting drug
Send em my way
If I didn’t have a career I’d blast the fk out of things but I actually have things to lose 
Eventually you are in the 120+ class and nothing matters anymore except big pounds
Real
Longevity is the name of the game
Nah you don’t and I have a good doctor I don’t even need Joeybagofsteroids from the corner in his basement lab
Unless you wanna be Larry Wheels but I doubt anyone has the genetic blessing that dude has lmao
or John Haack
Personally I am a NATTY KING
because drugs is cheating amirite guys
Yeah
don't wanna do the HARD WORK
not like my favorite natty lifter Russel Orhii
He is out here DRUG FREE
In fact
EVERYONE in the IPF is drug free
Love the dudes who do methyl tren and halo meet day and their noses and eyes bleed
During lifts
Untested feds are so fucking cool ngl
I don't want to see whats humanly possible with a bunch of limits
I ref and I hate when I have to ref tested meets lmao
I want to see absolute fucking humans using everything they can
I want to see them bleed
fucking have them do coke before a lift
Same
Fed for bums
Bodybuilding is a meme
As opposed to getting fat to pick up weights 
thats also a meme
The thing is that most PLers I know are just regular human beings trying to enjoy a regular human being life
while most bodybuilders I have met or known are assholes
Now, it could just be a small sample rate but I will stick by it
Yeah whats the best bf% for powerlifters like 12-15%
Depends on weight class
Like depends entirely on weight class
Also depends a lot on what type of powerlifting you do
Bench only dudes aren't gonna want to be lean unless weight class
When i first started lifting i did powerlifting, never competed but i wanted to
Squat dudes are also usually absurdly heavy
Kinda dont care anymore. Dont do any of the big 3 lifts atp
But it depends on weight class
rdl, machine press, hack squat r my big 3 lel
I do stick by my assumption that most bodybuilders are just massive assholes
that blame their leanness on why they are weak or genetics
I mean
I don't interact with your average gym goer
Maybe like local comps they’re fat but locally who isn’t fat
I mean good powerlifters are gonna push their body to the limit of their weight class
which usually means getting leaner
Not sure of any bodybuilders who are weak.. besides little 150lb kids
more muscle is more strength
Hence it depends on the weight class entirely
the 120kg club can be pretty chonky
but not 'fat'
And some of them are just mean freaks
Depends on what bf% you define fat as
Lmfao
im pretty harsh compared to some normal person
oh yeah you are so cool lmfao
Your average normie thinks anyone 15% is skinny lol
Like above 15%, by bodybuilding standards, above 12-13% depending on fat storage
We aint talking bodybuilding brother
Do you compete in bodybuilding
In general id say like 15%
Nah but my first prep will be end of next year most likely
How about, visible abs in any lighting. Most people with 15% bf cannot see them unless its downlighting
So you’re just a gym bro… bodybuilding standards are for competitors. Other than that who cares about what some barely employed people who lift weights to get naked consider fat
Its why I stopped labeling myself as a powerlifter because I aint competing lmfao
Yes I am a gym bro until I compete. But i meant, by bodybuilding standards
Which is true
So idg your point
Bro I don't know any bodybuilder that would see a random man at 15% and call him fat
Sure if you’re a competitor 15%+ is getting there but since no one here is it’s irrelevant
Aint gonna compete unless Im winning it fuck that
Ah
Im doing like a prep rn but not competing, just for the sake of doing it once
Getting to 7-8%
w h a t
I just mean im cutting deep into single digits rn
If you’re going into prep at the end of the year shouldn’t you be focused on size
Next year
Yeah i have a while
6-10 more weeks of this cut depending on how fast the fat comes off, then prob 24 weeks of gaining
I don't get bodybuilding tbh
but I am also dumb as hell
Was WAY into it when I started lifting then it tapered off as hell
because I personally realized I wanna look like a Russian slamming dbol, hairy as fuck living in the forest beating up bears
Also sounds like a MISERABLE experience tbh
Update: I have ZERO cravings after swapping to diet coke compared to pepsi max @urban skiff
Satisfying and miserable i guess
Hard work like anything
Always pays off
I mean I do get the hard work aspect
Powerlifting is practically the same but miserable in a different way
Or rather, chasing numbers
Powerlifting is probably healthier, bodybuilding probably has more real world carryover tho
what does that even mean
Being lean, looking good. No i am not sayingall powerlifters look bad
also idk, no professional powerlifter is healthy lmao
Neither is healthy
I actually don't think there is a correlation being 12% in your daily life to being 16% BF in terms of personal success but 🤷♀️
purely based on how people look at you
Unless you are of course working in that area
Healthier in terms of not starving yourself to 7% bodyfat twice a year, kind of have more freedom to do stuff too. Hard to have free time when you’re doing an hour of cardio, working a job, and then lifting
But yeah they’re both similar ig
powerlifters have shot knees, sleep apnea for the heavier classes, longer gym sessions, lifting, job
can have
But we are also talking about people who are “good” at it. Your average bb and avg PL both look like shit in terms of what they’re doing competitive wise
What do your cycles look like
thats a leap lmfao
In prep test, Deca (or npp), eq and an oral of choice lol
I see
Last prep I used var as my oral and it worked fine
That’s about as standard of a PL prep cycle as it gets. Outside of the harder stuff
Thats pretty much what every PLer runs
Yea
No mast or primo 😔
Eq replaces the mast
Mast off season
Primo AND mast very hard to get rn too. The 2 primary raw factors got raided
So gotta be careful rn with those
Lot more fake going around
Yup
I think thats getting sorted out soon
Some of the china sources are starting up oils again
which means it must be g2g soon
Didnt the whole tariff situation get resolved somewhat
Yea china always figures it out 
i have a lot of test so idc, i do want a lot of mast for my next cycle tho
Mast brings out vascularity like crazy it’s fun to use lol
Ive only ever used it at 100mg lol, next cycle its gonna be most the mgs
I’ve run 250 when my test cycle peaked at 500. I’m already decently vascular when I hit 275… with that tho it’s crazy
Yes that’s exactly how you grow
Btw Gio I’m 1 run away from 3k 😏
Just need to successfully hit a 13 rook and I’m officially HIM
@slow solstice
Are you proud
Next season I will see how far I can push
me when i dont play my warrior in keys
idk if you should do that if you value your sanity
gg
I tried
will me running and fasting only reduce body fat % if i dont change my diet
Warrior is so fkn bad
yeah it is aids
Idk what your diet is you might lose weight overall which means muscle mass too
Assuming you’re eating enough and enough protein you will lose fat if the fasting has you in a deficit along with the running yes
Nothing changes tho regardless of fasting or now
Not
Deficit = lose
So if you fast and eat 4k calories afterwards lol
You know what I mean
then eat 1k
Just saying
you lose
Ofc
i will be big
Probably but its all about calories. If ur burning more than u are eating then sure
DH
that class is cringedaddy
If youre fasting you wont be big 
Real^
Finished KSM boys
I wonder what my life would look like if I start blasting gear
Nah it makes every single aspect better
Not a gymcel, I’ve got a wife
Not worried about looking a certain way for girls or anything which seems to be where alot of that shit stems from
Im 5’9 205 like 14-16% bf
you didnt even get close to trying without it either lmfao
Bf is based on the fact that I have visible abs but I have no idea what is actually is probably higher
Cringe
Hell ya if i get on some gear maybe ill be motivated to do bgb push
If you need artificial boost to lift what are you even doing 

Don't think scoobz is educated
thats a mistake
at least not when it comes to this lmao
He’s right tho? Trt is exactly that
yeah
ANYWAYS
I keep bouncing in SS its wild lmao
Lose 1-5
drop to 2360
win 5-1 go up to 2420
repeat
solo shuffle is obvious ploy from blizz
why the fuck harmstring and sweeping strike are in the gcd
what dogshit design is this
returning player, whats the current recommended build?
lmao
Murlok.io has all the information you need for builds and gear
Better in every aspect
But just more management
Men dropping like flies in their 50s
Testosterone is our version of oil like cars have
Shit falls apart
That’s why trt is becoming legal in the US soon
Just listen a bit to Kublai Khan and you got all your test back
only place i can farm these goobers is in asharan
lmao
since WoD was the only one i didnt got
Exactly
join the nemesis discord
Should have been on test
you can get others to help you complete it super fast that way, and you can make gold by having the rare races for people to kill
lmfao
I just hit 1800 on hpal and I remembered during this why I stopped healing after DF s1
In ss
Yeah in this?
😂
exactly lmao
You can’t do anything about absolutely garbage ass dps players
Feral just went 1-5 I somehow carried his 1 so I got 4-1 but holy shit was he a hard carry
You don't enjoy your teammates being tony every game?
The 1 I carried him I literally said “HEY JUST SIT ON THE HEALER ALL GAME” since he literally cannot touch dps idk why
And it worked
While the evoker killed everyone else
lol
😂
Queues today has been ROUGH
Yea I’ve had 2 today they didn’t press rally
At all
They probably have avatar charge ms and exe bound only
@lavish quest I think I’m going to tank keys next season
You got it big dawg, it's not actually that bad
I just look up my routes on a website lul
/you run it a handful of times and figure out what you wanna pull and when
Next season I might start dabbling with learning all of the tanks. This season I started lightly learning prot pally
Did you see that clip I posted of him ln lmao
Prot pally seems like the easier tank how is it
Prot pally seems chill. But I'd say war is prob easier. But maybe that's cuz I've played war forever
Pally has more utility for the group tho so you can make up for idiots A LOT more
Was watching my friend stream and was like holy shit that’s Tony lol
holy fuck he got ROLLED
LOL TONY WTF
You can throw off heals, then obviously bops and freedoms and such
ik .6 seconds from like 40 or 60
That sounds like a lot of work
It is
Yea in all seriousness boomy pumps
But you don't have to do it
lol
Especially if your groups isn't ass
But if you see an idiot tank a mechanic that doesn't 1 shot them you can free wog em up to like 60%
Wait there’s a title called “triple threat” for doing each key on a dps, healer and tank at 10+
Yeah boomie does pump. You can do a lot in a dream burst go
That’s kinda cool
But it still takes the most damage
So gotta kite
But with tireless pursuit being 40% it’s good
Wait there is? Lol
its so bugged
Yea I want it
Shame I suck dick at healing
I got the DPS one after doing 6 keys lmao
wtf lol
I got it MID dungeon too
Weird
Is it % based
Idk nvm ignore that
Bugged af
I want it
Idk if I can heal pve tho
fuckc an't check chat either lmao
M+ healing is hard for me at least
I dont' care about that
Meh, it's the better color of it
The red one is cooler either way
I like the 3k more
I am also 654 KEK
But I already have it anyways
Yeah I totally pugged it : )
I wish I cared enough to push 14/15s so then I could boost 12s lul
But I boost monkes thru 10s at least
and they realize I am not just gonna be giga-boosted lmao
I did pug the 3k. Pain and suffering it is aye
I’m pugging it too
did like 3m overall
1 more tho
but at 650 because I didn't get the gear
What's your io?
with Vers gear lmao
2600 something
Tf you mean 1 more then? Lol
It’s like 2680
A 13 rook will finish 3k
Have you just not done a rook at all then?
Oh, I think a 13 is 300-330 pts ye
ITLL BE TOGHT
Literally just need a 10
2 chested 10 probs
I’m not fully pugging I have a tank friend that makes fro
Grp
I don’t apply
I guess that’s cheating
Idk
Okay, I pugged solo mostly lol
Friends are either bad or don't exist so I ride solo
I will tank next season and pug solo and see what happens
I know this dude irl I force him to take me
So
I'm the weirdo who wants to do it
I am he who shield blocks you in the night
A 5? Slow down there big dawg
Because none of us heal
Let me see how this goes

I’m going to heal 8 10s for title
i was big in m+
Tony stop
If this title is a real thing, maybe I'll gear a rsham or something
a cool one
Is rsham cool
I think Rsham is my fav pve healer now
sort of yeah
Used to be rdruid way back in the day
Doesn’t it have 400 binds
Mw
Is mw good in pve too
All healers can do 10s lol
yea
Ey yo, these achievements are a scam
And guess 13s are worth about 380s ish, so you'll def hit legend if you time a new rook
wtf lol
Bro I've boosted all of these on 10s as a tank too
They are not retroactive
Was this achieve just added or something?
So was it just reworked?
yes
Ah
I'll just play my ret kek
Nice that’s range
Could try to learn holy, but feel like rsham would be the better path
Yeah its pretty weird
Benefit to holy would be already being like 662
On the weird side. Rsham was the spec I got 1800 on in pvp first this season
Weird times
Button bloat spec is what keeps me away and no tank external
The ones I play with are regarded
PUG tanks trying to do MDI pulls with no coordination
I’m pushing on Havoc DH rn
Can only imagine it being worse on a healer
I WIPED THE 5 GUYS
I dunno, I play tank so I get to be the regarded
So I know how easy it is
Also they made chain heal look dumb
wtf is that
chain heal
I can’t play that spec now
If I rolled tank I’d play Prot warr
Seems easiest
Isn’t VDH a meme
nah bear
I ALREADY tanked on VDH
It gets a bit harder if you wanna min max it with the build we run atm
someone told me vdh was bis
veng is giga this seas
I can’t get over how soy VDH is
Aka, seeing how little rage you can use on D so you can spam revenge all day
Isn’t it only good if you know how to min max Aldrachi Reaver tech
You’re insulting Tony’s legacy
What’s the r1 m+ title this season
Where do pve healers congregate?
I need guidance on what healer's worth learning
lol
enterprisin hero
Pve healers don’t congregate they gatekeep
Veng was designed for dungeons it seems
Apparently a useless tank in raid
Are you srs lol
Surely there's some egirl gathering or something somewhere
enterprising hero yuh
That sounds so non wow wtf
That’s like what they call Jimmy down at the firm when he has a good month selling to clients
Works in NYC
cheats on his wife regularly with Susan the secretary
He’s the enterprising hero
Yea just scroll twitch
Wait Mud would know
Lifts at equinox
Married but hooks up with girls on Raya
Does Zyns all day
Exactly lmfao
@elfin surge Where do the egirls congregate?
how would i know
Paul Allen
A true hero
Let's see Paul Allens title
LMFAO
owO
that ones mine
MUD hasn't been online that much altely
MUD how do we meet egirl
Do they care about my max Husfeld stone carry?
We're not trying to get an egirl, we just need healer guidance
If I ever got this title I’d name my character paulallen
Soon he will go live for his monthly stream once his rent hits
she updated her bio a few days ago which means you've had this ss for a while
🔎
Kennie stalking? Surely not
Go to bed
I feel like a good PUG healer is something with high through put good o shit buttons and externals
Rsham got link
Poggies
Oh shit disc
A healer I actually know how to play
🦊 
Send me an in-game mail. 
Probably try MW
I'm at gym
He will yiff you
Easy
Fun
Looks cool
It’s looking like a disc angle
Or whatever they do
Furry
I don't think I can disc angle it
I'll prob rsham it

Disc is a good time.
At least if you know the dmg coming out.
I guess it can be scuffed in pugs because reactive spot healing is iffy.
just find a HUGE GIGA SCORE group
Classic.
Healing is weird where low keys are like agony cos people dont stop or avoid anything
i remember this
dawg its a +8 bro -takes more dmg than in a +14-
Hpal may fit the bill too but I wanted I walk into a noose listening to Ellesmere explain how to play it
Nvm I’m not doing disc pve
I don’t want to predict shit
That’s not relaxing
Rsham it is
if u just wanna bongocat pve maybe mw
I think Rsham/Prot warrior is a legit thing in Keys
Bongocat?
Ohh yeah that’s me
Pres and Rsham are the only healer classes I already have at 80
Pres is ass
hell ya first arcane key was a banger
have a wife healing this rookery and her husband on DK
am i cooked
is this a bricked key already
There's a DK, free elo
Not when I cant connect lmao
I did fuck up one round with the DK
because I missed kick once
So could have been a 5-1
ele?
yeah
idk dude
I wasn't just walking
I was crawling the entire lobby
totem root, dk root, mage root
I was literally just hitting DK pet to heal off sometimes
because the DK was playing like a PANSY
DK was playing corner the lil FUCK
some guy tried to argue with me @ 1700 on my hpal that dk is one of the worst targets to hit
he was a warrior
i was like BRUTHER
Even if I fucked his 2.4 because I missed my kick
DK is an actual minion
literal minion rn
It's the add in the boss fight
arms worst class in the game
Im feeling the FATIGUE
I'm at the gym doing legs, and this dude 1m behind me is blasting Eurovision on max volume
Almost halfway brother
not enough monster
eurovision lmao
absolutely lmao
I just quit out of wow
but I know I will start it again in 4 minutes
Yeah I might kidnap your gf if you do
She is sleep fuck you mean
She got work tomorrow
I gotta get up in like 8 hours and talk to the Anti-rodent people
because apparently they are showing u pbetween 7-12
like what the FUCK
When I finish exams, get time to play, and I then find out you have quit, I will nuke your favourote squat rack
damn
lmao
I can't wait to quit at 30/50
It was 27/50 dumbo
I can't wait to quit at 27/50
Only valid grounds for that is if your girl spawns a minion
My team quit at 27/50 cause our feral became a dad
Never saw him online after again
Real chads quit when they know they can get glad
and not when they get glad
I am trying to preserve my random ass check-pvp
that goes Elite to 1600 in one season lmao
As if anyone cares
We get rank 1 this season
this is also pretty funny ngl

ayy this is when we started doing 3s
He is grinding 2s with his E-girl fanbase
No, you quit in s3 after like 15 games
lmao
When we had the best comp in the game
Look man
You never have to worry about me not enjoying WoW
because I only play it when I enjoy it
Overtimed the 2 
I'm gonna have to get a friend who can tank
"Ye guys we meta now, think Imma dip"
what is next season going to be named
You lil' Zercher wanna be
PRIZED kek
Also did Laros hit #1 on both Fury and Arms yday
ah
oof
Also why is Qwneer so angry
askign for a friend
and he is the only warrior streaming rn
I like Laros
Laros is a vibe
I miss Dekel man
and when Smexxin was actually streaming
smexxin streams were the truth
We all know who #1 is….
Magnusz is a positive streamer
cookin that 4 hour shuffle queue
Arcane keys are really the truth
Last time I watched him
He was complaining in 2s waddling toward his target while somehow winning 90% of his games

Carried by Dno
50 shades of Flokk
: )
Diddystorm the goat
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lmao
EXACTLY
lmfao 😂
Laros the goat
gimme the story on this
i just got him to accept a trade with mechano hog up for nothing
lol
i backspaced the gold
and he accepted
it was before they changed the way trades work
LOL
Noob
Are u a smart fellas or fart smellas
why does arms want haste so badly?
More globals and less CD on mortal Strike means more rage used so Anger management reduce CD on Colossus Smash
gotcha ty
@urban skiff your sarcasm and jokes go over r/worldofpvp's head
Im too smort
lmfao
"He used mobility and a healing spell red flag" "IS THIS SARCASM"
that video is nasty as fuck though
Yeah but it literally is telegraphed.
People are just so used to the telegraph being "big airhornfriendly cooldowns used" and not so much "this guy is acting weird so he clearly has a goal in mind"
Once this becomes normal i swear people in the sub are going to switch opinion "it's so easy to spot. Its just a gimmick"
No different from ele and bdk before
but I don't think he could have done anything to survive that except panic use swap
But he has to swap when he hits 2% basically
maybe he could have nelf racial
He moonkin was holding actions after treans until priest started casting a holy spell
yeah when he does get out of beam he has about 0.1s before he is 1% lmao
From the video is super clear that the moonkin acted specifically to do this. That means there's a counter. Its just not airhorn weakaura friendly, so people are mad they have to adjust.
I usually look at stuff from a 'I could have done something better' but as from this clip
he couldn't do shit in these 10s to stop this lmao
Unless he would have played the other corner
Holy school was kicked by beam. He shouldnt have been spamming smites there
yeah
that was the 0.1s he had ot react
before he was 1%
before that he is fully beamed and cant swap
the only thing he can do is run or use nelf racial
and even with nelf racial he dies I am pretty sure
He should have seen the moonkin pushed in, spotted the regrowth and either lined moonkin or run further away
Or his partners should have reacted.
This is as much on them
Hindsight is always gonna be 20/20
I admit i didn't know any of this before seeing the video. But i'm not going to get Tricked by this going forward because i know what to look for
I consider myself decent at WoW arena, I absolutely would have not reacted to that
byt he clip given lmao
But will you, moving forward?
I'm pretty sure i'll need to be cc'd to not catch that.
Super certainly was. Regrowth on a target that takes the least possible healing at that point and isn't in mortal danger. That was super sus.
The pres is absolutely in danger
whathcu MEAN
He is in spear+csmash+stun
My guy can die right now
That's the end of both.
That regrowth wouldn't have done shit compared to a cyclone.
Regrowth isn't either lol.
Absolutely it is
it does something
Now agian we have about zero context
But even if the priest pushed back and reacted it wouldn't have mattered
lmao
But again. I wouldnt have caught that. I wouldn't catch that in the future of i hadn't watched video carefully.
Now it's the first thing i look out for.
Because with the damage boomkin was outputting they would have clobbered warrior too
Oh yeah totes
I don't think this is something most people are gonna think off honestly
what fucking build is this though
And that's what i meant by the comment. There are clues way before the rootbeam and incarn
It's a gimmick build that stacks crit.
Op would have lived if it didn't crit lol
I mean yeah, but you can say that about execute right now too lmfao
It's just like the bdk gimmick
Im tryna find what the talents are
It's straight up offensive that this is considered an op move by an op class but when i blow people up i'm playing a gimmick spec lol?
I mean Boomkin is fucking crazy sleeper right now
which is agreed on by everyone lmao
Look for regrowth, star surge, treants to start with. Its damage modifiers and i think related to also the fluid form stat buffs
Enhance just has zero representation and gets countered by most of the popular specs entirely
That's the curse of having a slightly better other dps spec.
I dont think there's much difference between ele and enh damage, other than ele is easier to execute
And enh is easier to EXECUTE
Lol

