pvp

[potent forum]

No it doesn't

[frank knoll]

Just live the primal lifestyle and you won’t need it

🥴

[copper fox]

Trt takes your natty card

[potent forum]

Because proper TRT keeps you at YOUR normal levels, not a generic normal level

[copper fox]

Yes

[fierce elm]

In terms of natural bodybuilding competitions it does

[copper fox]

No

[fierce elm]

and natural powerlifting

[copper fox]

If you’re injecting anything

[sand sundial]

Unless you are prescribed, maybe even then

[copper fox]

You’re no longer natural

[fierce elm]

it does remove your ability to compete in those feds

Even if prescribed

[urban skiff]

tbh TRT feels like cheating. My sqaut went up when I took a break from it.

[frank knoll]

I know a 25 year old firefighter on “TRT”

[potent forum]

Yeah dude I work in this for a living, and I read the medical journals, and while an org might say that, they're dumb as shit and outdated

[fierce elm]

Unless you are a FtM individual or MtF individual

[urban skiff]

or cancer

[copper fox]

Nah

[fierce elm]

But if you are a male taking TRT you are not allowed to compete in a ton of natural federations

[fierce elm]

or cancer

[frank knoll]

There’s clinics here that will just give you TRT no questions asked

[copper fox]

I also work in this. My client went from 300 to 1200 test on trt he’s not natty anymore

[fierce elm]

Even those with legitimate issues such as cancer, or a transitioning person are sometimes barred from those feds too

[potent forum]

Very few people inject their TRT btw, you just use a gel now

[urban skiff]

or having it shot off with a puck in pee wee hockey league

[copper fox]

Trt is no longer natural

[potent forum]

Yeah, and those people are morons, and not on TRT

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[frank knoll]

I’m scared to do it because I don’t want to lose all of my hair

[copper fox]

Gel is garbage

[potent forum]

They are on TRT on paper and taking 3-4x the dose

[copper fox]

No?

Tf you saying

[potent forum]

Proper TRT is very, VERY low dosages

[sand sundial]

Why'd you do trt unless you are very serious and dedicated to something

[urban skiff]

I'm still on injection, what's the gel like? I loathe the idea of having to do something every morning and gel is gross

[fierce elm]

You want the funny part, we can literally ask a person who is in a really controleld country rn

[urban skiff]

My doc wants me to switch

[fierce elm]

how much are you taking per week

[copper fox]

Yes and it brought my client from 300 to 1200. Do you know how test works? It’s not the add the number to your number

[potent forum]

This is the bastardization of TRT, when people started taking 250mg as "TRT" and now people think that's TRT

[fierce elm]

Zercher is from denmark which is a HUGE controlled country

[urban skiff]

13 weeks cycle, 1000

[potent forum]

Yes I know how test works, I guarantee I understand it better than you do.

[fierce elm]

1000mg per week

[copper fox]

LMFAO

ok buddy

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[urban skiff]

per 13 weeks

[fierce elm]

alright that makes no sense

[potent forum]

Proper TRT would be your levels from 25 to 35 have dropped from 700 to 300, we're gonna bring you back to 700

[fierce elm]

so ish 75mg per week if just dividing it

[potent forum]

You're talking about a person who is taking 2-3x the doctor recommendation

[copper fox]

How about you check the pins for some more steroid info

[potent forum]

and if you believe they went from 300 to 1200 on 50mg a week, you're a moron

[copper fox]

Bro you gave your stats. I’m bigger than you don’t be saying that

[potent forum]

Like an absolute, mouth breathing, drooling randomly moron

[fierce elm]

I like #pvp like this

[frank knoll]

Yeah that’s like this firefighter dude I know
Obv juice head but “no it’s okay it’s just TRT bro”

[potent forum]

Being bigger or smaller is based on genetics, it has nothing to do with knowledge

[fierce elm]

Insults flying, random discussions, yet we are all gonna be here in 8 hours speaking about dumb things

[copper fox]

False. More knowledge = better results

[urban skiff]

In my mind, TRT is always with a doctor's approval

[potent forum]

Nope, lots of absolute morons are jacked as fuck and lots of extremely educated people have poor diets or poor genetics or both

[urban skiff]

otherwise it's just PEDs with a prettier label

[potent forum]

^

[frank knoll]

Science based lifters

[potent forum]

Noone is getting approved for 40-60mg a week of TRT and going from 300 to 1200, it quite literally does not exist in any scientific study ever conducted

[frank knoll]

All the knowledge
Weak and small

[copper fox]

Yea and if you compare them to someone who’s the same but used shit better, they’re not going to be as successful

[rancid granite]

gg ez

[copper fox]

50mg is not trt. I have a prescription from a doctor

[urban skiff]

technically it could if it raised their motivation and energy levels

[potent forum]

That's even remotely true, even steroids aren't equal for all; some people respond extremely well, some barely at all, some spike estrogen at very high rates and some don't at all

[urban skiff]

I just completely compress in the weeks leading up to next dose

deflate

[copper fox]

I literally see the bloodwork evolve from all of my clients you’re a moron

[pastel swan]

Which shields do u use wrecking into?

[copper fox]

Talking out of your ass

[potent forum]

50mg of test = from 300 to 1200, and I'm the moron

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Officially writing you off as trolling, well played friendo

[copper fox]

50mg isn’t trt and test isn’t a math equation of this + this = this

Lmfao

Holy smooth brain

[potent forum]

TRT can be lower or higher based on a persons levels

Noone needs 200mg+ for TRT

Maybe a severe cancer patient

And that person certainly isn't fuckin lifting 6x a week, are there? Absolute moron.

[urban skiff]

sorry, i check that box

[copper fox]

Who said someone needs 200.
A man on 125mg went from
300-1200 I literally saw it. And he’s a 45 year old not jacked financial worker

[urban skiff]

There's an upper limit because bloodplates get fucked up

[copper fox]

Never used anything else

You’re wrong

You’re generalizing

And it’s wrong

[potent forum]

See, you work in a clinic clearly that overdoses and uses the "TRT" label to sell steroids

[copper fox]

And dumb af

[fierce elm]

no wow talk now

[rancid granite]

w/e i see i just spam it on disc priestlol

[potent forum]

And then pretends that = TRT, proper TRT is extremely lose dosing and based on the specific individuals levels before and after

But sure, man. Whatever you say

[copper fox]

Correct. Whatever I say

[pastel swan]

I’ve never played it so mb im trolling lmao

[frank knoll]

Just like how you used 30 pages of juiced Russian powerlifters to tell me my natty bench sucked

[copper fox]

your bench does suck tho there’s women who can hit it

[potent forum]

This guy is 110% one of those juice pigs who says "ITS STILL THE HARD WORK BRO YOU COULDNT HANDLE IT THE JUICE BARELY MATTERS BRO"

[copper fox]

?

[urban skiff]

when using wrecking throw, think of the shields as having 12% of their normal HP. If you have a 1m wrecking throw that means you'll do 120k into the shield and 880k will overflow.

If you have a 2m execute instead it'll deal 1m to the shield and 1m to the target.

That's the simple math

[potent forum]

Is wrecking actually worth having post buff? Lol

[copper fox]

Why is this linc guy still talking

Ofc the gear matters you moron

[potent forum]

Yeah no shit, that was sarcasm and mocking you. Man...you missed even that.

[copper fox]

Sorry hard to see passed your dumb ass logic on everything

[fierce elm]

absolutely into MW/Locks even disc maybe

lmao

CAN YALL GO TO WORK

[potent forum]

I just imagine you as Lorgok and that Crusader guy mixed together over there, just juiced to the gills and raging

[copper fox]

I’m on break rn I can’t

[potent forum]

I already trained my morning clients Afro D:

[fierce elm]

Fair

is this just break-sperging then lmfao

[copper fox]

I wish I was juiced to the gills

Only half

[spice hornet]

Lmao

[copper fox]

Dw tho prep just started. I’ll be sure to get worse and make you look like even more of a troll idiot in the coming weeks

[frank knoll]

Yeah that’s like 100lbs below the world record
No shit I’m not a pro athlete lol
Not below average. Just cope because I called you fav streamer a fake natty

[spice hornet]

[fierce elm]

Mastakiller coming in again

[copper fox]

I honestly forgot about the bahj conversation

Ngl

[frank knoll]

Methyltren is the new Calibri

[copper fox]

I’m just the dude who knows more than you

That’s all

[spice hornet]

Methyl knows his stuff

[frank knoll]

Keep telling urself that
Jason blaha energy

[copper fox]

It’s just weird when people blame their shortcomings on everyone else being on gear

It’s weird behavior man

[frank knoll]

Where did I blame anything on anyone?

[copper fox]

You saying someone who’s clearly natural is on gear because he appears larger in photos is doing that indirectly

It’s insecurity

[frank knoll]

He’s not clearly natural
That’s not even a thing

He might be natural but he might not be

[copper fox]

Ok lol

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[rancid granite]

my gear is tunafish and whey protein ill fight anyone here

[sand sundial]

It's just chicken rice and broccoli every day bro

[copper fox]

Sirloin and jasmine rice

[rancid granite]

smother all of the above in hotsauce

[fierce elm]

Chicken and sweet potato

[copper fox]

Deep dish buffalo chicken pizza

[worldly oriole]

IM delving harder than ever

[copper fox]

Dude

I gotta cut 17lbs

To make weight

[fierce elm]

alright fucking stop

[copper fox]

This is fucked

[fierce elm]

This is diet only channel

I will munch down on turkey bacon and enjoy it

[copper fox]

I weigh 292 rn

LOL

[fierce elm]

kek

I am at 277

ish

[worldly oriole]

damn you weigh more than me potentially

[copper fox]

I gotta get to 275

[worldly oriole]

although i had a dairy queen blizzard

never doing that again

[fierce elm]

w h a t

[sand sundial]

How tall are you guys

[worldly oriole]

like 1k+ calories of absolute garbage

[copper fox]

6’3

I got fat af this winter

[fierce elm]

6'1

[frank knoll]

You better bench more than Larry Wheels

[fierce elm]

I am just fat

[copper fox]

But I benched and squatted a pr

[sand sundial]

Wish you used non pepega metric system

[fierce elm]

187cm

127kgs ish

Actually might be 126 now

[sand sundial]

I'm 185 like just 90 kilos

[copper fox]

I actually know Larry from Brooklyn we lifted at the same gym for a while

[sand sundial]

I don't lift as much though I just do calisthenics

[worldly oriole]

weighted push ups

[copper fox]

I’d break my neck and die if I tried to do a handstand

[fierce elm]

I also do Calisthenics

and lifting

[urban skiff]

what's it like being young and cool

[fierce elm]

Im 27 brother

[urban skiff]

I'm about to turn 39

pretty sure I can call you young

[frank knoll]

I’m 5’9 185
I do strongman stuff now and lots of sprints

[elfin surge]

ur all boomers

[sand sundial]

My personal goal is handstand pushups.. The required strength is MAD

[fierce elm]

holy fucking boomer

[frank knoll]

I won’t try and gain weight cause I like being lean

[sand sundial]

26 almost 27 we have similar stats

[fierce elm]

what the fuck

imagine not wanting to gain weight

I am out here tryna look like I wrestle bears not be a twink in a nightclub

[frank knoll]

If I was 5’9 220 I’d feel like shit

I feel slow and bad

[sand sundial]

My genes are weird I can eat 3k every day and not gain much for weeks

[fierce elm]

My genes are weird I eat 8k calories and gain weight what the hell

[frank knoll]

I’d also have to force feed myself
I don’t have a huge appetite anymore

[sand sundial]

Currently I eat 2k and I'm not lean

[urban skiff]

my genes are weird, i've been skipping meals becuase of stress and losing weight

[copper fox]

My “high day” rn is 4700 cals and that’s part of my cut

I maintain @ around 5500 cals

[fierce elm]

Its so nice ngl

[copper fox]

It really is

[fierce elm]

Although I am cutting rn at 2.5k calories

[chilly pivot]

what u guys think of having a website like "faceit for counter strike" but one website for wow pvp? with torunaments and stuffs for us normal ppl

[frank knoll]

I’m probably taking in like 2.5-3k calories
200 grams of protein which is why I’m always sated

[fierce elm]

because I can suffer this for like a month before I get angry

[fierce elm]

AWC is open bracket

so you can sign up

[frank knoll]

If I start doing heavy deadlifts and stuff again maybe I’d wanna eat more

[chilly pivot]

want torunaments every weeken

[copper fox]

Yea you’d be able to

And you’d need it for the recovery

[spice hornet]

What food primarily gets you there

[sand sundial]

Because you work your body you'll naturally would want/need to

[fierce elm]

Fair

[sand sundial]

It will literally get you hungry obv

[fierce elm]

dicks

[sand sundial]

Chad?

[elfin surge]

Afro

[copper fox]

Eggs, avocado, oatmeal (with honey berries and granola), steak / ground beef, jasmine rice, loaded protein shake, and a huge fucking bowl of Greek yogurt with stuff in it at the end of the day

[elfin surge]

based

[fierce elm]

You started off like a food influencer then it quickly devolved into caveman food lmfao

[spice hornet]

Based

[copper fox]

Lmfao

I have 2 free meals a week

That was the pizza

[fierce elm]

You ever just od the big bowl of Ground beef, rice and whatever else you can fill it out with

eating with a giant ass spoon

[copper fox]

Yes

I’m locked tf in tho I’m tryna total 2000 in October so

[fierce elm]

The older I get the more I realize plates are merely a social construct and subpar for holding food

[copper fox]

So I’m not straying

[copper fox]

Lmfao

[sand sundial]

Bowls are peak

[fierce elm]

Though I do feel embarassed when my SO walks in on me in only my underwear in front of my PC gobbling down half a kilo of greek yoghurt at 1am

[elfin surge]

yeah i eat out of a trough with my hands

[fierce elm]

bro you are like 5'1'' 20lbs

whatchu mean eat

[elfin surge]

you know nothing peasant

[copper fox]

How about when she walks in, same scenario, except you’re yelling to kill a priest

That’s happened

[fierce elm]

lmao

[copper fox]

Just pure disgust

On their faces

[fierce elm]

Apparently telling my teammates to off themselves means we arent friends

even when we have gamed together since SL

[copper fox]

Lmfao

[elfin surge]

dude?

[fierce elm]

bro what

[sharp meteor]

Hmm

[fierce elm]

You mean to tell me you have never screamed at your healer

[sharp meteor]

Nope

[elfin surge]

Nope

[copper fox]

Damn

[fierce elm]

Yeah you guys need a more toxic team

[copper fox]

Agreed

[fierce elm]

Nothing gets me more riled up than when my healer tells me I am dogshit

[elfin surge]

I queue with petkick

[copper fox]

If I’m not pre dispelled on every root

It’s over

[fierce elm]

Im sorry

[sharp meteor]

Petkick doesn't seem toxic.

[elfin surge]

Hes actually rly nice

[fierce elm]

exactly

HEAL ME YOU FUCK

[elfin surge]

unless you best him

[copper fox]

You want to see petkick toxic, tell him flark is the best dk in the game and always has been

Then sit back and observe/listen

[elfin surge]

flarkness holyy

[copper fox]

lol

[elfin surge]

🤡

[sharp meteor]

Tell him flark would throw him like a javelin

[elfin surge]

that dude yells at his 1500 exp team like its awc

[frank knoll]

I hear he’s good with kids

[elfin surge]

??

[copper fox]

Any flark praise pisses him off lol

[sharp meteor]

❓

[elfin surge]

understandable

[copper fox]

Masta just omega troll today

lol

[elfin surge]

@frank knoll lets not be a sheep

use ur brain

before u speak

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[spice hornet]

Just kill petkick especially playing fury warrior and he whispers you malding

[fierce elm]

Even mud is scolding him

[frank knoll]

I think Mes is actually better

[spice hornet]

Do it all the time when I get him in shuff with his 10000 dks he has

[sharp meteor]

I think he has like 30 now or something

[copper fox]

It’s impressive

[urban skiff]

anyone else think about how she's called "the little mermaid" and not "the age appropriate mermaid"??

[elfin surge]

I'm worried for my bro

hes losing it

[copper fox]

He babbles on stream

Danger close to insanity

[spice hornet]

He’s coping with the fact that his boy mud left him for an egirl

[sharp meteor]

14 hours of unholy a day for over 10 years

[elfin surge]

He gave me shit for playing 5 warriors in SL btw

[copper fox]

The more we say things the crazier it sounds lmfao

It’s wild actually

[sharp meteor]

[spice hornet]

Literally dk only. Not even an alt

Like oh I wanna warr or somethin

[sharp meteor]

He got a warr

[elfin surge]

He's been 2800 on fury

[copper fox]

I played 3 warriors s1 tww and hated it

[potent forum]

I beat Mes on my warr yesterday, I'll ride this til I die

I'm the GOAT now (notsrs)

[elfin surge]

Mes is old and a dad

[potent forum]

I know man let me HAVE IT

[idle mica]

Hey there guys, i have a question. I recently got enough honor to get myself a socket. Now firstly, does it matter where i socket my gem to activite my embelishments? An seccondly, will Enduring Bloodstone activate my Elemental Focusing Lens?

[spice hornet]

It’s been annoying this expac with all the buffs and nerfs they’ve done between arms and fury

[sharp meteor]

Doesn't matter where and no

[spice hornet]

Have had to change my gear so many times

[copper fox]

Yea they need to consider uncapping conq sooner

Idk

Next season

[sharp meteor]

1 or 2 weeks zzz

[copper fox]

It’s whack how long we go

Yes

[sharp meteor]

Probs 2

[copper fox]

PvE ppl geared instantly in 1 week of their season

[idle mica]

Alright, thnx. So i guess socketing a masterful sapphire first would be more effective then?

[spice hornet]

Someone kept memeing crit arms to me in at the start of s1 which I did and then that warrior was just unplayable

[copper fox]

dude I did that too

[elfin surge]

is it comp stomp week rn

[copper fox]

Lmfao

Yes

[fierce elm]

you socket the sapphire first

[copper fox]

I literally wasted a warrior

On crit

[spice hornet]

Yup lmao

[fierce elm]

lmfao why

[idle mica]

Got it, Thnx! 😄

[copper fox]

Dude because Mag

[spice hornet]

Cuz some regards were saying it’s good

[copper fox]

Mag was praising the crit build

[elfin surge]

Regards

[copper fox]

And I bought into it

lol

That’s when I perma stopped playing arms and just all ind fury

[elfin surge]

fury getting nerfed soon

[fierce elm]

I trust Mag ZERO ngl lmao

Fuckin got Medallion as his first week purchase

[elfin surge]

You dont even play warrior afro

[fierce elm]

what the fuck I do

[elfin surge]

Do not.

[fierce elm]

Im just relegated to other stuff now

[copper fox]

It’s fine I started my arms warrior last night

[fierce elm]

Yeah

we are rotating

[elfin surge]

I've been arms all seas havent touched fury

i just cant man

[fierce elm]

I mean

when all you do is 2s at 2100

does it matter

[copper fox]

Went 5-1 then 4-2 tho and I swear I would have 2x 6-0 as fury lol

[spice hornet]

I could see arms working at 1400 in 2s

[elfin surge]

i hate u guys

[fierce elm]

lmfao

MUD queues with a random LFG healer at 2100 mmr as Arms 8 hours per day

"PLAYING WITH VIEWERS" as he streams 2s for 4 hours at 1800mmr

[copper fox]

Mud grind out PRIZED GLADIATOR

[spice hornet]

Mud queueing at 1400 in 2s with a viewer all day

“Man this game is so shit and feels terrible” - Mud

[copper fox]

Lmfao

[fierce elm]

lmfao

god I love MUD

[copper fox]

I’m so hyped for deadlifts tn… the pvp in this discord was insane today. Good work men

As the warrior cord should be

[elfin surge]

good one guys

let me just stream myself sitting a 6 hour shuffle q

[sharp meteor]

why not dawg its the same spec

[elfin surge]

i hate being trained and dying all game

[sharp meteor]

arms dont even rend or tc gg

[sharp meteor]

o ye true

spend few minutes chasing immortal wizard

go hey hit warr

fury explodes through wall

[elfin surge]

I qd some 3s on my alt warrior yesterday and found out the meta pretty quick

Rdruid ret x
Rdruid Ele x

[fierce elm]

Isnt that your main warrior

[elfin surge]

immortal

[sharp meteor]

ya i played like 10 gamed last week all 5-9 mins

rdruid make games not end with tree

[elfin surge]

buggin

[sharp meteor]

psure nerfed tomorrow right

tree is just like yo toppin the gang here

nobody dyin

[wheat jay]

Do what bicmex does, q on both eu and na

Double the q half the time in q

[elfin surge]

i don't enjoy shuffle tho

[wheat jay]

Noone asked

Viewers demand shuffle

[elfin surge]

demand deez

but thats fake news

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/joaquin-phoenix-gladiator-thumbs-down-gif-13238004

[elfin surge]

ive qd shuffle on stream before

gets less viewers

[cold summit]

should I do m+ on my pvp toon just for the slots? on vault

[fierce elm]

why

[copper fox]

This is the problem

No one wants to be in games for 10 minutes in 2025

[cold summit]

can you socket pvp gear?

[fierce elm]

yes

[cold summit]

dont you get sockets from the vault?

if you dont want any gear

[fierce elm]

you cant socket PvP gear with those

[cold summit]

how you do it then?

[copper fox]

Honor

[fierce elm]

Bloodstones

honor

[cold summit]

ah ok ty

[sharp meteor]

its kind of funny because misplays end the game in like 40 seconds

but most games just like 5-7 mins of mana barrin people

wonder how much fury nerfed tomorrow

[boreal veldt]

mast crit colossus is the way brotha

[copper fox]

25% rampage nerf

[sharp meteor]

they wouldnt nerf muds spec that hard smexxin wouldnt allow it

[frank knoll]

What are the FOTM fury’s gonna reroll

[urban skiff]

who gave these bois permission to play meta comps

[sand sundial]

whatever is fotm

[urban skiff]

in MY joke bracket??

[cold summit]

does WW monk have an ability that reflects dmg?

[frank knoll]

Karma

[fierce elm]

yes

[copper fox]

ww and bm still exist for them

Ww still kinda fotm

Just look how well Tony has done on it

[worldly oriole]

xD

its my highest toon

[copper fox]

Case in point

[spice hornet]

Ww is a better fury warrior lmao

[worldly oriole]

last time i got glad was on windwalker

4 years ago

[spice hornet]

Depending on how bad they gut execute will determine if people go to dh/ww/bm

[copper fox]

I hope the all go DH

[frank knoll]

Good I love beating up bad WW who don’t use port

[copper fox]

Because arms still shits on DH

[worldly oriole]

dh arms

[copper fox]

Same

[worldly oriole]

sick comp

[spice hornet]

WW defensives so brain dead they haven’t really had to use port or kite since like shadowlands

[urban skiff]

womp womp

[frank knoll]

The bad ones I face die after karma is down

[chilly pivot]

if im running out of any "main" ability, should i hit slam or WW to fil up

[boreal veldt]

Your healer's name is wild

[urban skiff]

lol

[fierce elm]

whathcu mean main ability

also please dont hit WW ever

unless its to maybe get someone out of stealth

[chilly pivot]

then slam i guess is the best

[chilly pivot]

rampage, raging blow, BT etc, if i dont have anything to press

[fierce elm]

bro how would you run ut

out

[urban skiff]

@zinc coral

you famous

[copper fox]

Impossible

[boreal veldt]

how frequently do you run out in matches?

[copper fox]

Just can’t be

Press hamstring

[boreal veldt]

i only have like 13% haste as arms and even i don't run out of things

[urban skiff]

imagine when I get my 4set lol

[zinc coral]

ty

[boreal veldt]

[urban skiff]

I'm bigdam a little

[zinc coral]

i thought here is warrior discord not enh @urban skiff

[urban skiff]

everything is me

how are these guys 1800+ mmr?

[copper fox]

Is beefyclowner your wife

[zinc coral]

no its me

[urban skiff]

it's my alt-wife lol

[boreal veldt]

Zercher got like 5 healer wives

[zinc coral]

big beefy boy

[urban skiff]

that's what a winning personality feels like

I was chillin' in another world fighting slimes and then drawn into this world to be a mid-level gamer with a harem of healers

new anime

[copper fox]

Huge

[urban skiff]

don't be fooled, he was a girl while i played

[zinc coral]

just tell everyone u like boys @urban skiff

[copper fox]

Hey I’m not judging

[urban skiff]

you can't spell "Sexually flexible" without "I"

[copper fox]

True

[worldly oriole]

20 MORE toys

til 300 toy mount

[rancid granite]

@fierce elm what you putting in the greek yogurt to make it actually edible

[fierce elm]

Whey

[worldly oriole]

get the oikos

[rancid granite]

i will check out oikos next time i go shopping

i mean whey would work i guess lol

[worldly oriole]

oikos triple zero or something

lemme find it

https://www.oikosyogurt.com/greek-yogurt/triple-zero/

it was on sale a lot at sams club idk if they still do that

[urban skiff]

Huh? Bro just eat it

[copper fox]

Tony how do you have time

You play Diablo, 900 alts @ 1400, healer @ 1200, collect TOYS, looking for a raiding guild!?!?

[worldly oriole]

lmao

[copper fox]

Do you work

[worldly oriole]

not yet

was thinkin about becoming a trainer like i told you

[urban skiff]

You should offer pvp coaching

My 1300 ass could use it

[copper fox]

First client right there ^

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/disgust-ew-seriously-eyeroll-gif-8081658

[worldly oriole]

damn

[boreal veldt]

skirms are a strange place

[robust hearth]

Some people use feint casting scripts

Went all in on mastery kept very close to the mastery cap

They were so close to fixing the issue, their philosophy is , instead of players relying on 3rd party external add-ons, we just put the EXTERNAL into the default game... WHEN REALLY they just needed to remove the reason people made the add-on in first place so people don't need to have an add-on at all

Takes u 1 hour to run a mile???? Jfc i can run a mille in less than 8 mins D:

[fickle forge]

Ye bro it's my first mile ever

[rancid granite]

this why blizz adding accessibility options

[urban skiff]

Hey pros, got disc and enhancement. What do we grab for 3rd to try 3s?

[rancid granite]

dont be hard on karanze for being a crip

[urban skiff]

just for stomping

[frank knoll]

I feel like gaming laptops are a rip off

There’s some “regular” laptops that actually have better specs than some gaming ones aside from maybe a less Gucci graphics card

GTX 4060 will be better than AMD integrated graphics card 100% of the time of course
But 512 gb ssd and 8g of ram is garbage
I need a new laptop and I want ti get something before the Tarrifs make everything go up 100%

[rancid granite]

get an asus rog

[fierce elm]

uhm

tier 2 recolors

hello

warrior hello

[green wharf]

the paladin recolor is over there ->

[fierce elm]

The paladin one sucks

kek

but the warrior one rocks

[rancid granite]

paladin one looks awful cuz bad lighting

monk and rogue look gr8 tho

[pastel swan]

oikos is the best one ive ever found. i crush a 6 pack of the drinkable oikos daily lmao they look like dannons

[rancid granite]

damn ok 2 people vouching for it

right on =p

[urban skiff]

when did blizzard get cool

[atomic thorn]

Hello Guys! Its been years that i've played PVP. So i'm not sure, what's the best way how to proceed with my gear. In General, currently i have the Honor gear, - that means 665 for BGs. In PVE, im running around with ~671 Gear.
What would you recommend? should i use the Conquest points to add the PVP Affix on my PVE Tier Sets? Or should i spent the Conquest points directly for the non-set PVP Items? as far as i could see, most of the PVE set items doesnt have versa on it..im a bit overwhelmed about the possibilities 😄

[urban skiff]

any piece that has vers and not-crit you can just equip until you get a pvp piece with higher ilvl

(also not trinkets. Trinkets you want pvp ones equipped so you get +15% stats)

[atomic thorn]

Thanks, is the 2/4-set Bonus Usefull for PVP? Or can i just use the Conquest for the non-set 678 Gear (like the Chest with Versa/Mastery) instead of buying the "Upgrade" Item for Setpiece, if my PVE Chest has Haste/Mastery on it?

[urban skiff]

2set useful for all

@fierce elm did this 1800 warrior use his cooldowns wisely?

Those are all of his globals, by the way

[fierce elm]

where abilities

[urban skiff]

I see him using BT once

I mean, it was a 2:54 minute fight so ok, first 18 seconds wasn't used wisely

next cooldowns is at 1:04.

got me on the ropes

somehow i have more hp after his cooldowns ended

[boreal veldt]

👀

[verbal ridge]

quick question about talent choices. Playing fury in shuff & 3s normally run Thunderous Roar. What match ups should i consider swapping to spear instead? Is it a preference things or does spear shine against certain comps. Been feeling it might help with some of these ranged who kite me well like BM or these god awful devs

[fierce elm]

Always

Roar is garbanzo beans on fury imo

[boreal veldt]

Roar is fine if you just want to press button for damage but spear provides more in many regards

especially into mage/evok

spear can force a block/deep breath

[boreal veldt]

imagine they gave us the turquoise recolor from tbc

[worldly oriole]

where you get tier 2 recolors

[copper fox]

Gotta be 2.4+

Sorry buddy

[worldly oriole]

REALLY

i got the nunchuks

[cold summit]

can you use tier sets in pvp?

[copper fox]

Yes

[exotic forge]

at reduced effectiveness but yes

[fierce elm]

Tr1p is going through his monthly forgetting everything

[cold summit]

I just came back from a break

[boreal veldt]

trying to debate if demolition > storm of swords

is lower cd wrecking better than the BS/Demo slow

[urban skiff]

great start

2 kills 1 win

[copper fox]

I feel like bs slow too good

[boreal veldt]

it is very good

[worldly oriole]

SHOULD i do my key on dh

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm one was a draw and one was the moonkin forgetting how to do anything

[boreal veldt]

getting a draw is wild

[urban skiff]

was stupid too because there's over a second difference and the other team still got the win?

you can tell because the sum of healer wins should be 4 if there was 1 draw.

[haughty jewel]

fury might be op

but at least its hard to play

@elfin surge

[sharp meteor]

more buttons than arms so naturally

prot>fury>>arms

[elfin surge]

woyer hard clas

[copper fox]

Arms is actually insanely easy to play it just doesn’t do anything

[urban skiff]

should i cancel queue? this is starting to smell like a beatdown

finding people too far out of my range

[spice hornet]

I wish my queues were 25min

[copper fox]

Fr

[spice hornet]

i havent played. got tired of sitting 1hr+ to get double warr or go 3-3. cleaned my house too much nothin left to do while i wait

3s partners on vacations nd sh

[fickle forge]

Then you know what the angle is

[copper fox]

I’m (attempting) qing my main once a week rn in ss

If the q goes longer than 45

I stop

[fickle forge]

Make new warrior and enjoy 5 lobbies before it's 1 hr Qs territory

[copper fox]

lol

1 q session mmr would be too high

[spice hornet]

yeah u play 7 lobs and ur in 1hr range

takes longer to level and prep the warr

[fickle forge]

What I do is make a 2nd warr I just LFG 3s with

It's honestly way faster

And better quality

[copper fox]

Not a bad idea tbh

[spice hornet]

my mmr went up fast there too

all beyond or near 2300

[copper fox]

That’s when you join some 1200 lfg gamers

Confuse the shit out of them

[spice hornet]

tonypajams?

[copper fox]

Yes

[spice hornet]

lets get him to heal double fury warr

[copper fox]

I’m actually down

[fickle forge]

I legit do that

Just find someone who's willing to play

Drop some mmr

[copper fox]

I’m going to do that on this warrior I just made for arms lol

[fickle forge]

But at least playing

[copper fox]

Idc about 3s on it

[fickle forge]

None of it matters when I got a main warr with a main team

[copper fox]

Yea exactly

I’m still only 2200 in 3s on main tho I haven’t qd since it’s non stop cdew practice

[spice hornet]

yep

real fun fighting awc players to get to glad

ones playing mage/x/x comps

sickk

[copper fox]

Exactly I just want my red bat right fkn now and I’ll leave the bracket

[spice hornet]

yup same i just do it for the mount

so its lame that its fuglyt

and i kinda like getting it cuz in the next season u get better quality players for havin glad from the most recent one

u skip a glad and u get stuck with idiots

[cold summit]

how do you socket your gear with honor?

[spice hornet]

You buy a socket from the vendor near the PvP vendors for 5k honor and 3 bloodstones

[fierce elm]

hey google

how do I socket pvp gear tww s2

[fierce elm]

Alright nvm

the ret recolor looks cray cray too

[rancid granite]

is there more pix

[fierce elm]

Its more BLood-knight red

than pink

[rancid granite]

oh

[fierce elm]

but I mean what the fuck

[rancid granite]

yeah thats epic

[fierce elm]

I am waiting for the third set they have in the data

: )

The warrior there is also kind of neat

also the turbulent timeways event mount

is fucking insane

[sharp meteor]

Pirate dwaggie

[urban skiff]

the dream is to get double warrior without getting a mage

[worldly oriole]

@rancid granite where do you get these tmogs

[fierce elm]

not yet

[worldly oriole]

i gotta finish up mage tower

[sand sundial]

amazing

[sand sundial]

ridiculous

i like that they gave everyone the warmer color alternates

like the blood knights red lightning monks druids of the flame black dragon hunter etc

[rancid granite]

step in your timemachine to 20th anni :(

thought they stated these def not coming out again for a long while

[cold summit]

the main issue I have is idk who to target in 2s

[spice hornet]

Double warrior lobbies blow

[wheat jay]

Whoever is clos trip

[urban skiff]

not for enh

[wheat jay]

Whoever is close

[urban skiff]

It's basically 4 rounds of playing turbo

[spice hornet]

For the warrior it does. Low quality

[cold summit]

always melee then?

[urban skiff]

and then two rounds of suffering through double warrior

[robust hearth]

hello there

this recolor is rare

[urban skiff]

but if there's a mage or something that plays well with a warrior as the 4th then it's really shit lobby

[fierce elm]

its the undead event recolor

so yeah

[robust hearth]

originally this t2 recolor only came out durring the WOTLK pre-patch event

called Blessed Undead Slaying set

@fierce elm im waiting for them to release the red version of the warrior t2 recolor

[sand sundial]

i cant find this on wowhead give me a link

[robust hearth]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/additional-tier-2-recolors-datamined-for-all-13-classes-in-patch-11-1-7-future-376683?utm_source=discord-webhook @sand sundial

[sand sundial]

cheers

[wheat jay]

Always pump something

If its melee

Kill it

If healer comes in

Kill

[robust hearth]

IF IT WEARS A DRESS

[wheat jay]

If its ranged, walk to kill

[robust hearth]

U KILL IT

[wheat jay]

IF IT WEARS A DRESS

[cold summit]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-arnold-im-back-gif-3445410526398754864

[wheat jay]

KILL IT TWICE

[robust hearth]

IF U SEE DRESS

[cold summit]

I cant bring sharpen blade on my action bar?

[wheat jay]

Now that only appllies to game of course

Irl we like women in dresses

[chilly pivot]

any weakaura that show me if target can be slowed or not with hamstring, i feel like i press it to often when my target have some buffs so they cant be slowed, so i loss 10 rage and 1 global..

[copper fox]

Idk but you can use mes WA and make it announce all freedom variants

[urban skiff]

wait, how?

[copper fox]

Just add the spell to the announcements

Same way you add or take away any spell from it

[frank knoll]

Just got an MSI laptop

Instead of asus or whatever

[frank knoll]

What enhance build are you playing rn

[rancid granite]

y

all i know is i been using asus rog for a long ass time the quality is always 10/10

[frank knoll]

The MSI was 300 dollars off

[worldly oriole]

12 more toys

to 300 toy mount

[chilly pivot]

Problem is i dont know all freedom abilitys haha

[hexed epoch]

I'm really struggling against mm hunter, seems they always have an answer to get away

[spice hornet]

Are you gnome

[hexed epoch]

Orc

[spice hornet]

Dats why. Good mm hunter is barely touchable even as gnome

[wheat jay]

Cuz if they csnt get away theyre instantly dead

[cold summit]

are the trinkets the last conquest gear you get?

and is the season maximum gonna increase

[copper fox]

I go trinkets before off pieces

Personally

Because of token gear

[cold summit]

whats that

[copper fox]

Bloody tokens

[cold summit]

ahh

wil the pvp conquest season max increase?

[copper fox]

Yes

[cold summit]

kk

[copper fox]

@spice hornet can someone tell these fkn BM hunters that 5-1 and 6-0 every lobby to log tf off once in a while

[spice hornet]

Hahahah which ones are you getting

Must be nice to be a bm hunter and be good with basically everything

[copper fox]

Got Gennaro he’s a freak

[cold summit]

I hate playing against kiters that circle stuff

https://tenor.com/view/rip-upset-angry-no-gif-15982137

[copper fox]

I’ve yet to 6-0 on arms

Is it over?

5-1 4-2 5-1

[uneven lava]

yeah same ive had heaps of 5-1 but the last round always ends in a "draw"

MM is way worse though for me personally though as arms

[cold summit]

Is arms or fury better for PvP?

[frank knoll]

4-2 every lobby on my DH, never 6-0d

[ebon steeple]

Fury atm

[copper fox]

@elfin surge @fierce elm ⁉️⁉️⁉️

[spice hornet]

healing dungeons leveling on alt, no problems get rando kicked 2 mins after dungeon starts right on first boss pull ?

are people really like this?

[copper fox]

lol wtf

Literally no reason?

[spice hornet]

none

dungeon barely started, city of threads theres like little trash before first boss

mid boss fight too somehow

like a few seconds after pull and I had already casted 2 gcds sionce the boss sucks the whole group in and does dam

[elfin surge]

what

do i have u on btag

[spice hornet]

wouldnbt care if u didnt get a 30min debuff for some reason

[green wharf]

dont ask questions, you were exposed

[elfin surge]

expose deez breh

[copper fox]

No lol

[copper fox]

That’s so fkd

[elfin surge]

tf

how

[copper fox]

Watching a stream

[green wharf]

once i was doing timewalking

[elfin surge]

who leaking my bcasts

[copper fox]

You got exposed on weedtylers chat BROTHER

[green wharf]

i wasnt even the healer

i said, one sec gonna get some water

the moment i put the hand on the door

like 6 seconds

[elfin surge]

o LOL

[green wharf]

i was kicked

[sharp meteor]

raises paw

[elfin surge]

stop.

[slow solstice]

hi

[elfin surge]

hello

[slow solstice]

when you doing keys with me bud

[elfin surge]

LOL

[slow solstice]

we can do a 10

🙂

[elfin surge]

[slow solstice]

come on bud

1 key

[sonic heron]

Yo mud big fan man . Even if I don't pvp much I like watching u

[urban skiff]

this

[green wharf]

enh is focusing what stat now

[urban skiff]

idunno

my stats look like this

but I'm thinking about dropping 4k haste and either getting crit or vers

[green wharf]

so isnt much different from ele

[urban skiff]

my other shaman has 17% haste and I don't really feel a difference

[green wharf]

ele is fun and all, but when people get on top you cant do much

i said it before, and i say again

there is nothing better to kill a rogue or a stealth fucker with thunder clap

https://tenor.com/view/2omb-prayge-gif-24836248

[urban skiff]

yes there is

nuking a fleeing rogue with tempest

[sharp meteor]

idk having a twitter post made about u kind of slaps

[urban skiff]

just pop him like a zit

[sharp meteor]

also missing her (unchained arms)

[green wharf]

well, i meant ingame

in pvp to be more specific

[urban skiff]

killing mythiic sylvanas nights before they nerf hr

[green wharf]

killed another rogue in wpvp now

and this prot alt is just full honor

these people are either rly bad or prot is rly good

[urban skiff]

prot is stupidgood vs rogues and warriors

[lavish quest]

He tries to get me to push keys too

I did just finish some 10 afk boosts tho

Ez 100k

[slow solstice]

no way you ever drop haste for crit

[green wharf]

Zerck thinks crit is a good stat

[slow solstice]

if you are going to for crit on enhance over haste

you need to be studied

[spice hornet]

why is majority of shuffles

cage of carnage

even on my healer

[sharp meteor]

more like cage of cringe

[urban skiff]

i know it's a better stat than most think it is

[urban skiff]

Enh already has good crit mods, it'll be fine.

The difference between 77% haste and 82% haste is not that big

but a 5% higher chance to instantly smoke someone during burst is going to be felt

[green wharf]

its the worst stat of all

[urban skiff]

No, int is the worst stat of all

[green wharf]

not for int classes

[urban skiff]

worst class favours the worst class

[slow solstice]

NO

BRO

[urban skiff]

that's just bad with bad

[slow solstice]

SIM THE DIFFERENCE IN THE GEAR

ITS NOt BETTER

[urban skiff]

how do you sim pvp

[slow solstice]

bro just sim the gear differences

in like a 40s burst

on 1

or 2

get simc and ill sim it for you

[urban skiff]

Do you or do you not drop haste when you go over 100%?

[slow solstice]

drs dont matter?

[urban skiff]

Yea it does

over 100% haste and GCD doesn't go down

Haste above 100% is wasted on faster auto attacks (and faster spellcasts on spells with a cast time above 1.5 seconds)

[slow solstice]

ig on enh

but mage is crazy

but you should still go for haste over crit

like its disgusting how good it is

[urban skiff]

I mean it's haste that isn't mine anyways. I dropped vers for more haste to try it

now I'm going to try crit since it's survivable

[slow solstice]

ig yeah have fun

but

[urban skiff]

like I said, crit is not as bad a stat as people think it is

They get hung up on the 50% nerf in pvp

[slow solstice]

i dont think crit is inherently bad

i just know enh values haste and mastery so much over every other stat

even more over agi

[urban skiff]

yeah but I'm already stacking full mastery

[slow solstice]

maybe mastery is better for oneshots?

but idk

[urban skiff]

this is entirely about what to drop vers for and I'm not sure that extra bit of haste is going to make as big a difference as turning a 1.5m hit into a 3.2m crit

[slow solstice]

yeah

[urban skiff]

i just can't get the interaction between haste and mastery right so I'm having difficulty creating a model

[slow solstice]

wdym interaction

[urban skiff]

so next step is trial and error and record everything instead

haste increases autoattack speed and mastery increases chances for windfury procs and windfury procs can proc windfury procs

[slow solstice]

this is the stupidest way of gearing imo, but look at the difference at how what ideally you would want to gear an enh in pve

i think the best concession would be to drop equal amounts of mastery and haste to get vers

but crit wouldnt change in theory

[urban skiff]

the goal in pvp is different

If you can't do unhealable damage, you have to do spiky damage

[slow solstice]

what would be considered unhealable vs an enh opener

just pure rot

or a mortal strike?

[urban skiff]

Unhealable, like if a fury warrior is hitting into a partner of yours who isn't moving at all.

Would that be healable at all for 3 minutes of pure pve damage into a partner?

[slow solstice]

prob not

me when people are bursting 12m in 30s

[urban skiff]

I top out at 4m dps for a few seconds, I don't think enh has it in them to do 12m dps over 30 seconds

lol ok almost 4m

I hate that I can't ramp more before something dies

[slow solstice]

yeah i think with pi enh can

also i dont know hwo much burst you value on 1 target vs +2

[urban skiff]

That wasn't even PI, that was just a shuffle. :S

[slow solstice]

oh

thats a log

[urban skiff]

yep

death log, his final moments

[slow solstice]

but i think stormbringer really wants pi

in your opener

[urban skiff]

in my book, cleave damage is what makes enhancement go from regular damage to unhealable damage

[urban skiff]

Dunno about that, we just sync PI with ascendance. Most of my kills has nothing to do with ascendance, i could almost drop it

[slow solstice]

nono ik

but in pve rn

stormbringer really shows its strength with it

also idk if these are good vs some other talents

wait

do you really not pick up lavalash

[urban skiff]

it's a dead global

2 talent poinst to spread flameshocks, if people are stacked up and healer doesn't instantly dispel

[slow solstice]

how so?

[urban skiff]

that's a high cost. I also run the proc ice strike instead of the other one, because it's ranged instead of melee

[slow solstice]

would wasting a healers global and putting dispel on cd not be useful?

[urban skiff]

Flameshocks still does that without having Lava lash

[slow solstice]

ig but having dead globals isnt somethign i like

[urban skiff]

I meant, Lava lash is a dead global. It doesn't do damage and costs two talent points to maybe provide a decent benefit when i could use that global on other stuff

[slow solstice]

yeah

ty for discussion @urban skiff 🙂

[urban skiff]

I'm no expert, but my choices have some thoughts behind them until i get smarter.

I might try and raise my vers again, kthuman enh should in theory be pretty tanky with racial and 3% passive dr and 6% passive magic dr

[chilly pivot]

Can someone listed all buffs an enemy can have so i know when to not use hamstring on them

[urban skiff]

Freedom
Ghost wolf
Hunter freedom
Druid

https://youtu.be/_bQ_skTxqsY

How would one use pedals to play pvp?

[fickle forge]

Warrior, DH, WW etc.

Thing is that enh does nothing better than other melees rn, besides ranged utility, which is completely outclassed by ele

[urban skiff]

but at least we can burst like ele too

that's 900 ms between two tempest casts

[green wharf]

now you are a tempest enjoyer?

[urban skiff]

Always was

S2 they killed the stormstrike totemic build

So this is the closest parallel

[fickle forge]

Yeah, but ele does it with an RNG proc chance as well

[green wharf]

you didnt like before, you were all about totem

[urban skiff]

I mean, the screenshot is literally random procs to any outsider looking in

[fickle forge]

Yeah, but it's not randomly procing your Ascendance

[urban skiff]

true

[urban skiff]

I like pressing stormstrike

The old stormbringer didn't do that the right way

[true tiger]

ST enha for the win

got 2.4k last season with it

gonna get it now too

they also keep buffing STORM enha so hope they wont nerf

[urban skiff]

The no dogs build is super fun

I hope they buff survivability somehow but dont know how they'd do that.

If they made stormweaver cast heals in the global instead of needing it's own global i would be happy

[cold summit]

Should I be saving bladestorm to break out of roots, or to reduce the enemies healing ?

[wheat jay]

Damage

Roots or damage

Either of those

[wheat jay]

This is what ms is for, unless it's blitz then all of the above but normally everyone already has ms on them in mass pvp scenarios

[cold summit]

People said fury is better, and that’s all I’ve been seeing rn

[wheat jay]

You have slaughterhouse on fury

[cold summit]

I currently play arms should I switch ?

[wheat jay]

Do you like arms?

[green wharf]

do a few random bgs and skirmishes with both

and see what you like more

they are rpetty close

[cold summit]

I like arms ye

[wheat jay]

Then play arms

[true tiger]

if u see potential to do big pressure just click

or else for roots

[slow solstice]

people refuse to want time 15s

[sand sundial]

Unless you play high mmr anything goes

Literally play whatever you want

Gonna use this event to gear up my mage

It's time

[fierce elm]

Yall ready for the fury nerfs

what we thinking. rampage+execute nerf

[green wharf]

too predictable

[exotic forge]

Execute is likely to get nerfed

[green wharf]

slam shall be buffed

[copper fox]

They need to buff rampage

And give us a 3rd charge

[green wharf]

i was browsing trough the arena side of the official foruns

seems like its the consensus that warrior should lose one charge

that way they would be balanced

[fierce elm]

the arena forum hates warrior

If arms was F tier they would still want nerfs

[elfin surge]

Friday hype

[copper fox]

Lose 1 charge lmfao

Stop

I’d honestly stop playing warrior if that happened

Ngl

[fierce elm]

no you wouldnt

stop lying

[copper fox]

Ok fine I wouldn’t BUT ID BE MAD

[fierce elm]

: )

[copper fox]