pvp

[worldly oriole]

having kids after consuming microplastics is risky

[fierce elm]

how the fuck does one transmog this stupid weapon lmao

[copper fox]

Good

[urban skiff]

Maybe a bit of an oddly phrased question, but I'm seeing more convoke ferals now than i used to at my rating.

Convoke is very easy to counter when you know to look for it, but what are the early signs that they have convoke and what conditions do they need met to do their stupid convoke successfully?

So far all I have is that they have berserk instead of incarnation, they're going to convoke at some point, and that they want to cc everybody else so the full convoke goes into one target.

[fierce elm]

Ima be real with you brother

I would ask the druid discord for this

I just assume every druid has some sort of convoke so I just hold my trinket for it lmao

[urban skiff]

convoke is a choice node between incarnation and convoke so when i see incarnation i breathe a sigh of relief before I start traditional panic over being eaten alive

[fierce elm]

So yueah

If they dont have incarn

[urban skiff]

I'll try and ask dreamgrove but I bet they're going to be all nerdy about it

[fierce elm]

probably

I mean you see incarn early

and if you don't see incarn you know already

then it's just about rotating trinket

[fickle forge]

I've become a bigger fan of Bodylab's iced coffee

[urban skiff]

yeah but if it's telegraphed well enough, i could counterstrike or cap totem it with good timing

[urban skiff]

Idk what it is they're doing, but bodylab is just excellent products all around

[fierce elm]

Starbucks protein coffee is amazing

bodylab is also just amazing all around

they have never missed

[green wharf]

cause it looks cool as shit

[spice hornet]

Reapmon is a jumpscare

[urban skiff]

i have to ask if this is some sort of macro

I'm being a dwarf today!

helping a fellow warrior gear up his durid

[fickle forge]

I am on that one as well

The caramel one

[fierce elm]

Hella expensive though

[fickle forge]

We give 2€ for it

[fierce elm]

yeah

hella expensive

a tale in two partts

[exotic forge]

Bro the way I saw this and my current match up is demo warlock/mw monk lmao

[urban skiff]

how does overflow damage work?

[fierce elm]

not at all

but tbf I am also gonna go 0-6 rn

[frank knoll]

I’ve found myself waiting in longer blitz queues than SS

[urban skiff]

which one of you guys just killed me?

[fierce elm]

lmao

[green wharf]

not me, i would never play in that server

[rancid granite]

id talk way worse shit than that

[exotic forge]

not on eu brotha

[green wharf]

today im feeling goblinic

[urban skiff]

He did big dam and he was nice

[rancid granite]

god damn shammies on the new map

hopping off and on the platform every 5 seconds

[urban skiff]

bwhahahaha

yea

[rancid granite]

tried full mastery no bleed colossus and did, what afro would say, dick all damage

[fierce elm]

lmao

[rancid granite]

and no mobility to keep up with it either

[fierce elm]

I fuck with the no rend build

However I am also playing fury now

[rancid granite]

i did less dmg with full mastery somehow, probably from lack of op/execute stacks or something

[verbal tangle]

Fury is actually pumper

[rancid granite]

yeah i swapped back fury too lol

[fierce elm]

I aint running full mastery either lmao

still sitting like 20% haste

[urban skiff]

I'm doing way more tbh

because i'm a dumdum

[rancid granite]

i mean i went full mastery jewelery for fury so i figured id try it Bless style once and it was awful

[fickle forge]

I tried driving my car with go kart wheels and went extremely slow guys

[fierce elm]

idk if I would go extreme full mastery for fury lmao

[verbal tangle]

@boreal veldt look at what you did to this poor fuck

[fierce elm]

fury rn

I am also 4 set : )

[verbal tangle]

I'm 4 set with more vers

[fickle forge]

Can't believe the spec that scales with haste and bleeds didn't do well without haste and bleeds

[fierce elm]

yeah okay did I ask nerd

[verbal tangle]

Yes

[fierce elm]

The spec barely scales with bleeds

Considering Rend is now acceptable to drop

[fickle forge]

Colossus does

[fierce elm]

and so are the other talents

oh yeah thats fair

But who teh fuck plays colo

[fickle forge]

Aatos does

[fierce elm]

Yeah swap taht shit out

[verbal tangle]

Only the Prot players do

And even then Thane is right there

[fickle forge]

Colossus is doing pretty fire rn

[fierce elm]

s u s

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-kart-luigi-stare-mad-angry-gif-4268577

bro it was to fish for big MS and big demolish

[fickle forge]

I'm gonna try a full crit no aimed shot MM build now

[rancid granite]

for FUN

[urban skiff]

rough!

[fierce elm]

I mean

once you get your 2.4 whats the point

if not to experiment

until later in the season lmao

[fickle forge]

Yeah but literally what do you gain on your pop from doing that

+2% crit?

[urban skiff]

same but 1800

[fierce elm]

Im bringing out my shit builds into these 2.4-2.5 lobbies lmao

[rancid granite]

well yeah after 1 game i saw the light and the test is over hard pass on it lmao

hard pass on colossus in general really

[verbal tangle]

Prot Thane gaming

[rancid granite]

it was to try once tho while i had the mastery

[fickle forge]

That's up to you, colossus does fine into cleaves and ranged pet classes

[rancid granite]

any small buff to colo though and im going right back

well, ok into cleaves yeah

[fickle forge]

As soon as you can sweep MS, then colossus is good

[rancid granite]

why would it work better with ranged pet classes tho

[fierce elm]

Tbf depending on how mcuh ret/warr is gonna gain popularity

colo might be the play

[fickle forge]

So you can sweep pets

It's all about generating might stacks so you can send it

[rancid granite]

i did that anyway but wasnt sure if that was like, the proper goal or anything

never thought about it

good to know

[fickle forge]

I mean yeah

It's what they do in PvE as well

Power build might stacks and then send it with CS

And I mean it should always line up with a stun DR that way, provided your teammate isn't a monkey

[fierce elm]

Im fucking 2k

where are my QUEUES

[fickle forge]

I would have found 40 lobbies in that timeframe on healer

[fierce elm]

yeah probably

[urban skiff]

why only 2k

[fierce elm]

Fury

Although its like 2.3k mmr

so maybe thats why

[urban skiff]

lol

too skilled for me

[fickle forge]

At 2.4k is when my avg wait time went to 30 min

[fierce elm]

Yeah

thats about my experience on arms

im just tryna fuck around on Fury rn

[fickle forge]

And then you'll hit 2.4k mmr, and suddenly you got no specs to Q

Time to pull a Bigdam and make 36 alt warriors to Q on

[urban skiff]

i think it's so funky that my warrior peaks less than 2m dps and i think 3m dps is too low on my shaman

and my shaman has more 2m lows than my warrior has peaks

and yet warrior still feels easy to play because.. reasons?

[rancid granite]

its like arms slayer but like better :) even in my wonky ass gear now it feels better

[urban skiff]

is MS just that good or is it because warrior has barely any setup?

[wheat jay]

Warrior has straight forward buttons

You just ms, op, exe

[fierce elm]

what the fuck am I reading right now

[wheat jay]

And every button does good damage

You don't need setups, you dont press anything to build up stacks or anything

Just slap slap slap

[rancid granite]

ever CS a monk pummel; or CS someone and they bolt off to narnia?

biggest tilter

ever

[wheat jay]

Cs?

[rancid granite]

colossus smash getting parried

[wheat jay]

Oh

Well, dont cs into fof

[rancid granite]

recklessness just feels so much more chill in comparison lol

IT HAPPENS SOMETIMES

[wheat jay]

Monk doesn't random dodge anymore xd

[copper fox]

Yea monks die

[urban skiff]

When is it safe to go for the kill? Their defensives and the way they line them up feels mysterious to me

[fierce elm]

whenever karma is down

and ya aint triple stack leg sweep

You think I need gear to hit 1800 as Ret

[rancid granite]

green

[fierce elm]

I got full honor

should be fine, no?

[urban skiff]

How do you get full honor gear when you get 9 heraldries free of charge?

This is why you're poor

@fierce elm @copper fox i'm training right now. When do i pin my test? Right after last rep or do i just do it between sets?

[fierce elm]

during the set

[urban skiff]

Hmm

Might be a challenge. I'm sitting on the ass

[potent forum]

Finally back to being a PVP andy; if I do solo RBGs as fury it's a diff score than arms right? Or shared?

[fierce elm]

Blitz

is different yes

[potent forum]

Kk solid, ty

I did arms to like 2400 MMR but wanna swap fury, wasn't sure if I'd get thrown into 2400mmr right away xD

[urban skiff]

Blitz or bgb

Call it rbg and people lose their shit

[fierce elm]

Yeah gotta call it right because RBG can be wrong lmao

[fierce elm]

naa you good

its separate brackets

[wheat jay]

Wtf sf in pvp thats not mud?

[urban skiff]

An illusion! What are you hiding

[fierce elm]

AN ILLUSION

[wheat jay]

Something's not quite right

[boreal veldt]

It's a hard life with low haste

[rancid granite]

i didn't even see this new version; dropped from nightfall boss

neat

[potent forum]

Oh cool now I have to farm it thanks bruh

[potent forum]

Thanks broheem

[river walrus]

Is it hard to farm? Definitely looks sick

[rancid granite]

na every hour or so its just a 10min siege with a buncha people

still no white version but it's still a secret 3rd version i didnt know existed

[gaunt dune]

I love the 3M Critical executions

[river walrus]

Thanks

[rancid granite]

dropped from the coffer reward from siege not the boss itself btw*

[violet fossil]

Isn’t the white version off the vendor?

Am I on crack

Might be

[rancid granite]

says it is but still not out

but i got white armor from the boss (or maybe it was cache) that is vendor too

[violet fossil]

Ah I could’ve sworn I saw it

[rancid granite]

sooooooo MAYBE

[violet fossil]

I did the event once then logged out tbh

It was a mess and gay

[rancid granite]

its basic siege, superbloom 🤷

[violet fossil]

I think superbloom was better

xD

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-no-u-no-you-reverse-uno-uno-gif-22508660

[night jetty]

[urban skiff]

Would anyone play with warriors in 2s and 3s if ret or enh had ms effects?

Or dks i guess

[fierce elm]

probably not

[green wharf]

shit ass drops, level up another war to farm hero gear first item is a fucking trinket

[green wharf]

fury over dk and enh any day yeah

ret not

the only thing keeping then at bay

[spice hornet]

I wish my queues were that short

[urban skiff]

Am i the only one with 10 minute queues?

[fierce elm]

yes

[frank knoll]

Ez, and with the transmog. If say you unlock armor appearances on a leather class. It will unlock the same one for your plate, cloth, etc alts

@river walrus

[frank knoll]

I got a white 1h mace /shrug

[rancid granite]

dang from where

i got the white shield from a cache box 🤔

[fierce elm]

https://www.twitch.tv/weedtyler

@urban skiff

[urban skiff]

Aw fuck yeah. But cant watch until kids sleep

[fierce elm]

lmao

Probs has Vods

idk

[urban skiff]

I'm hoping i can just start it over

[rancid granite]

whats this supposed to be i keep hearing about it but cant get over his name

[fierce elm]

8v8 blitz tournament

[sharp meteor]

weedyt

[rancid granite]

buncha wow pros and streamers tournie?

[fierce elm]

yeah idk about the name lmao

idk

I saw bigdam

They aren't noobs at least

[rancid granite]

yeah not random people same thing

[fierce elm]

Its not your random 1600 person

[spice hornet]

Yeah another “community event” where it’s the same top wow streamers collecting that bag off you

[urban skiff]

All the rank1 tanks are soullscape

Is Kenni invited?

[fierce elm]

This ahs higher production than AWC so far lmao

[rancid granite]

i am not giving them weed im keeping my bag

[rancid granite]

thought that was kenni at first tbh

before i saw the name

[bright kraken]

assert dominance

[fierce elm]

Alrigh t what the fUCK is this UI lmao

actually not that bad

[sharp meteor]

glogan on frost gonna have to turn this off

[fierce elm]

lmao this is entirely just chaos

just like normal blitz

[sharp meteor]

teams seem very mismatched

er uneven

[fierce elm]

probably are

since they are signed up teams

[sharp meteor]

right team so insanely stacked

[fierce elm]

lmfao

I fucking love this

scuffed, yet endearingly engaging

[urban skiff]

oh my god i want that ui

Is there anything left to watch?

[fierce elm]

yeah

Last series was a quick 2-0

this is the first game

of another series

[urban skiff]

where do i see this? I need to see bigdam in action

[fierce elm]

idk

vods

[urban skiff]

series number 2, game number 2 about to start

[fierce elm]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2443376434

[urban skiff]

Yeah i found the link, i was hoping there was a vod of it already

but I'd rather just watch this series live

i want my interface like this

oh wait that's buffs, not cooldowns :S

what's this glow mean?

[fierce elm]

Damage cooldowns

the shield is defensives

[urban skiff]

I think this is how I need my interface to show what is going on. Having a big block of all cooldowns ever just doesn't work for me, can't see it

like these

[potent forum]

Any of the warriors streamin this RBG tourny?

[urban skiff]

I feel like watching a rogue would be way more interesting

[fierce elm]

Don't think so unfortunately

most warriors are just beating off in whatever teamfight lmao

[urban skiff]

hahaha

what the fuck this is so much the opposite of cursed

do we say blessed yet?

[fierce elm]

For a purely community thing

this is pretty neat

[urban skiff]

I understand thiis infinitely better than whatever happens in AWC

and I'm a dumdum

If AWC was like this i'd watch it

[fierce elm]

AWC is like this

wdym

[urban skiff]

Idk, maybe it's because the format is objective based instead of kill based

[potent forum]

Fr I actually can't believe blizz hasn't started hosting these

[urban skiff]

the focus is on how they split teams or who carries flag or grabs dropped flags etc instead of "this guy just did 2 globals according to script and what we all expected would happen happened!"

[fierce elm]

Blitz is more chaos

and less control

[urban skiff]

yea exactly

[potent forum]

Would be far more enjoyable

[fierce elm]

which makes it easier to view from a casual perspective

[urban skiff]

It's meta instead of micro play

[urban skiff]

I'm a certified casual so maybe that's why I'm like this

[potent forum]

Man back in the day RBGs were goated

[urban skiff]

are they doing best of 3 or what's the format?

[urban skiff]

For a short while, RBGs were great

then they got flanderized by toxic people scaring normal people away

[fierce elm]

its bo3

[potent forum]

Yeah I was a huge RBG hero gamer back in like 2014/2015

So much fun

[urban skiff]

we tried to get a team going so often in my guild but only in shadowlands i took off for me, and it was already going downhill there

[potent forum]

Yeah the toxicity is wild, just have to mute people lol

[urban skiff]

Got in a guild group that needed a flex to be target caller and I was good enough that they kept inviting me back for their alt team

[potent forum]

Adding solo q was the most goated thing

[fierce elm]

it really was

[urban skiff]

truly

I logged in to do something and I immediately forgot what

maybe I was going to do crate group on an alt while watching? Meh

[fierce elm]

You know, once they add that two-handed weapons can be transmogged to one-handeds

WoW might just be complete

[urban skiff]

As long as they let me transmog dualwield to 2h for shaman and druid we gucci

[fierce elm]

Exactly

Both ways

However, still stuck to the weapon class that you can use

I just wanna be able to use a big two hander with fist weapons on Fury lmao

[urban skiff]

how do i make a giant dad transmog for enh shaman

[fierce elm]

you dont

MAIL TRANSMOG SUCKS

[boreal veldt]

no zwihander, no giant dad

[urban skiff]

rtue

It was a meme name that I'm trying to retrofit

[boreal veldt]

enh cant mog swords can they

[urban skiff]

tihis the mog right now

but no

[fierce elm]

get fucked shaman chuds

[urban skiff]

The spirit is a big weapon and a mask

and being unreasonably stronger than everyone else

Man silvershard is a worse map to stream than flag map, eh?

I'm famous already

[lucid walrus]

does arms win into dev ever in 2v2?

if he's got an rdruid or something it's easy enough to blow the healer up but it still feels like dev is in a different expansion

[urban skiff]

If you can't beat him, play in a way that is really annoying to him

[boreal veldt]

devs are squishy if you can stick long enough

your healer needs to help you in that regard

spear can make them panic and blow mobility sometimes

[lavish quest]

I miss hip sheathed weapons as fury

[urban skiff]

"gatekeeper" lol

finally get to see the legend play first hand

[sand sundial]

rivals has consumed me

[frank knoll]

The box thing for the weekly quest

[urban skiff]

big thighs consume Wind

[sand sundial]

the game is crazy on those bro

i dont play those characters though

[worldly oriole]

I CANT believe trill said that lol !!

[frank knoll]

Meepmonk is unhinged

That’s what healing does to you I suppose
Dude crashes out on every stream

[sand sundial]

is there a stream

[frank knoll]

I’ve seen highlights

[urban skiff]

just instantly took over the map using this one trick healers hate

they need to put team names somewhere so I have some way of knowing who is who

[river walrus]

Where are you guys watching this tournament?

[spice hornet]

Any drama from the tourney ?

[spice hornet]

@sharp meteor is carry over damage from wrecking throw back by mistake

[sharp meteor]

Yeah.

I think they fixed it in sl.

[spice hornet]

I just pop a MW cocoon and details had an additional entry for 1.2M dam from wrecking

[sharp meteor]

Idk why its' doing it again.

[spice hornet]

Kekw

Yeah they did

[sharp meteor]

You just play wreck into abosrbs and use it on cd

can be 5-20% of ur damagurs

[spice hornet]

Warriors need this

[reef sorrel]

Wreckin throw 2 mil as prot lol q up boys free ratin

[copper fox]

Nice what about the other 8 million hp prot cant do anything about

[sharp meteor]

At least we look cool with our shield.

[spice hornet]

Lmfao o

[sharp meteor]

[verbal tangle]

You mean the other 8 mil hp they can't do anything about?

Prot is tanky as a fat kid after your Twinkie

[spice hornet]

How’s that gonna help me if it can’t kill anything

[spice hornet]

LMAO that druid cloning me 3x in a row at the end

[urban skiff]

How does wrecking through interact with ignore pain?

are arms just at a bigger disadvantage now?

[bright kraken]

@wheat jay @fickle forge actually getting carried

[fickle forge]

Double monk

Ya'll okay?

[bright kraken]

The mw got R1 in S1 DF xd

[fickle forge]

You're right, you are getting carried

[bright kraken]

When am I not right

[fickle forge]

It's the way you like it

Do I wanna know how you picked up a R1 player though

[urban skiff]

new shaman coming along

[bright kraken]

Nuh

[bright kraken]

Idk how they found us, my friend was lead

[fickle forge]

Yeah I am sending Mud to Goldshire to check what you're doing

[fierce elm]

You dont wrecking throw ignore pain

IP is just a single ability to get through basically

Chunking cocoon for 8m is fun though

[urban skiff]

yea but if there's carry over, any shield invites spill-over damage that takes hp

if there's none then iit's only as good as the shield it removes

[fierce elm]

There is no carry over this time

At least not from my testing and what I have seen

HOWEVER, wrecking throw DOES do 900k BASE damage

So, align with CDs and you can probs get 900kish past the shield

that is not amplified by the modifier

[urban skiff]

that's the fastest i've ever made use of a tip

[fierce elm]

Yeah

1.04m, base damage is around 900k something

it all makes sense

[fickle forge]

Back in SL when we'd oneshot with Shattering

[fierce elm]

It was glorious

[fickle forge]

Dark Pact? More like Dead Pact

[fierce elm]

But really, I think they prioritize it in different numbers to make it easier to code

One part is the non-buffed damage, one part is the buffed damage

[urban skiff]

was a resto druid, that was all base dam

[fierce elm]

Then prioritize on above the other on shields, thus allowing one part to go through with like 900k-1.04m

or something ish like that

[fickle forge]

I mean yeah makes sense

[fierce elm]

so you didn't have deep wounds up on the rdruid?

[urban skiff]

not sure

[fickle forge]

It doesn't describe the OG bug though

[fierce elm]

You 100% had deep wounds up

the OG bug was probably that they were combined parts

[urban skiff]

last MS was at 5 seconds before death

[fierce elm]

becauise they reckoned we wouldn't one shot people

yeah so deep wounds up

[fickle forge]

Also Wrecking Throw pens armor iirc

[fierce elm]

which means it was amped

yeah

it also does true damage

[fickle forge]

True damage

League nerd

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

yeah that was with deep wounds up

[fierce elm]

So Mastery amp

It all makes sense I swear

[fickle forge]

It does yeah

[fierce elm]

the SL bug was that the post-shield damage was amped

[fickle forge]

900k base and then like 20% mast or something

[urban skiff]

was like half a global from landing it with warbreaker on him too

[fierce elm]

so if you had a 1mill shield, it calculated your entire HP as a shield

Which means Wrecking throw did 500% extra damage on HP

[fickle forge]

Rather

[fierce elm]

and it didn't stop once the shield was done

[fickle forge]

Your amps set the cutoff % for how much you could go beyond the shield

[fierce elm]

it does now

It was wild

[fickle forge]

All CDs was like 100%+

[urban skiff]

Basically damage was amped on shields, now it does smart math to say how much of the base damage it takes with amp to remove the shield and lets the rest carry through without the bonus shield dam

[fickle forge]

40% shield meant 80% your HP gone

[fierce elm]

So unless we see a number above like what normal Wrecking throw damage would be, it's not crossing over in the sense

[urban skiff]

or put in other terms, the shield has reduced hp vs wrecking throw

[fierce elm]

Basically yes

Think of the shield being 500% less effective lmao

[fickle forge]

That ain't a word you monkey lmfao

[fierce elm]

But yeah, I think it does two damage calculations on the ability and prioritizes one over the other

Shut the fuck up noob

[fickle forge]

Ya'll overthinking

[fierce elm]

go back to sleep daneboy

[fickle forge]

It breaks shields and does some dam

The end

[fierce elm]

Yes, but people are gonna want an explanation that is simple

[fickle forge]

I'm at uni dumbo

Dodging our Qs again

[fierce elm]

When they come in hereand say "ITS OVERFLOWING ON DAMAGE"

oh kmy god

I thought you said we could game today

[fickle forge]

That is simple lmfao

[fierce elm]

I got until like 16 to play

[fickle forge]

It does damage 😎 👍

[fierce elm]

Not simple enough

We have Shady coming in a few times a week asking about stat prios

and how to press buttons

[fickle forge]

It does

?

[fierce elm]

We have one mofo showing up asking about duels constantly

[fickle forge]

It

?

[fierce elm]

it

?

Where games

[fickle forge]

Gonna go gym and then watch a movie with gf

[fierce elm]

oh my lord

these dodges

forcing us to LFG constantly

[fickle forge]

Send me a fax Tuesday or something

The movie part was cap though

[fierce elm]

yeah suck me

[urban skiff]

shield has less hp when hit by wrecking throw, everything else it does is the same

Easiest explanation

If the damage mod was for the full attack we'd be trying to wrecking throw the smallest absorbs possible 😄

[fierce elm]

Yeah pretty much

[fierce elm]

that is how it was in SL lmao

[urban skiff]

Fun fact, if it's 500% + 250% increased damage that means the absorb has 12% normal hp

if 2s feel difficult to climb, this is a contributing factor. MMR swings up less than it swings down even after hitting a streak

Or in other words, it's very sensitive to losses vs fresh toons and winning streaks don't cushion against a big loss

[verbal tangle]

2s is also a meme bracket

[rancid granite]

what if you only have 1 friend tho

[urban skiff]

define meme bracket

there are more non-3s brakcers than there are 3s brackets. Maybe nobody cares if something is a meme or not

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff bg3 starting today with a party of 4

LETS GO

[urban skiff]

🙂

[fierce elm]

Goal is to play a non-weapon using Giant Barb

[urban skiff]

fuck yeah

[fierce elm]

and suplex, throw and kick people

[urban skiff]

do you play with or without respecs?

[fierce elm]

We are 2 people that have played BG3 before, 2 people that haven't so avoiding meta-gaming

We are allowing respecs

[urban skiff]

barb 1 monk 1 is stupid strong

[fierce elm]

But we aren't gonna sit there for 8 hours while someone configures their character

so the rule is to either pre-plan character or do it while we have downtime

[urban skiff]

1: barb at 1 you'll want to dualwield torches.
2: barb 1, monk 1, any 2h + offhand unarmed attack whenever you hit

[fierce elm]

2 people we played DOS2 with so they aren't 'new' to these type of games

Thats too meta-gamy lmao

I am gonna do the MANLY thing and suplex goblins

[urban skiff]

i mean i love playing monk/barb builds for wrassssllin' so it's not that meta gamey if your end goal is like 10 barb

[fierce elm]

It's probs gonna be barb focused

[urban skiff]

usually my builds go heavy on the monk and barb for diving strike

[fierce elm]

because this

I wanted to go Gith but I do want half-orc savage

[urban skiff]

I'm only level 7 on my new playthrough so haven't tested impel out yet

[fierce elm]

Apparently Elemental Cleaver is bugged as fuck

and calculates damage twice

[urban skiff]

Yea it is

[fierce elm]

So gotta see how broken that is when I do get it

but will probably avoid it if it trivializes everything

[urban skiff]

It doesn't have DRS disabled in honour mode as it should so it's stupid OP

You can either skip tavern brawler or choose to throw weapons that aren't stupid

like the lightning jabber (this is a stupid weapon)

[fierce elm]

gonna use Tavern Brawler

goal is to not throw like actual weapons anyawys

goal is to throw random stuff/enviromental stuff

[urban skiff]

true

fun fact, patch 8 broke druid

[fierce elm]

The more I can avoid actual weapons the better lmao

I just want to entirely go unarmed without being fucking Monk

[urban skiff]

tavern brawler adds strength dam to stuff like spike growth so if you have tavern brawler, spike growth, then wildshape into owlbear everything just cheesegrates itself to death

[fierce elm]

God I love this game

We are probably running one origin character

[urban skiff]

My kick does 9 dam which isn't necessarily a lot, but without monk levels it's something

[fierce elm]

my goal is to see if I can fuck halsin without having him in our party

Yeah, but kick something closer, jump there, then slam the enemy into another enemy

I did glance at gith for misty step

[urban skiff]

I could see open hand monk 6 path of giant barb 6 doing some real damage

Downside is you definitely won't have enough bonus actions

[fierce elm]

Does monk scale with str though

[urban skiff]

yea

[fierce elm]

oh fuck maybe thats the plan then

[urban skiff]

strength monk is a whole meme

unarmed attacks would deal d6 + 2x str mod + your kick would now be magic and bypass normal resistances

[fierce elm]

this sounds like a plan

[urban skiff]

I'd say 5 you want 5 barb for kick, 3 monk for flurry, 6 monk manifestation of mind

[fierce elm]

Maybe Drunk monk for the roleplay : )

[urban skiff]

you'd be missing out on dealing 1d4+wis mod with your unarmed attacks (your kicks)

[fierce elm]

yeah that dont matter for me

[urban skiff]

but the damage would be psychic

[fierce elm]

Looking more for flavor than damage

[urban skiff]

that's literally killing someone with humiliation

eMoTiOnAl DaMaGe

idk how elemental cleaver works with throwing improvised weapons like boxes and shit

[fierce elm]

lmao same

[urban skiff]

if it doesn't you can skip 6th level barb and pick something funky like shadow sorc for a cheat death effect

[fierce elm]

limited to weapons maybe

[urban skiff]

or fighter for a fighting style

no

ROGUE

for expertise and sneak dam

expertise in.. drum roll?

ATHLETICS!

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

giant 5, open hand 6, rogue 1

is probs something that would work relatively well. very very very mad however

Like you'd want strength for tavern brawler damage (or be relying on str elixirs, which I find extremely cheesy)
You'll want dex for obvious reasons
Con because barb and also AC
Wis for open hand damage and i guess monk DCs

[fierce elm]

I am not going wis lmao

Nor abusing elixirs

[urban skiff]

If you plan to cast scrolls with DCs or use items with granted spells you'll also want monk to be the final class you choose.

Barb uses cha, rogue int, monk wis for granted spells.

Granted spells always uses the last new class you've picked up. (Not the last level you picked)

[fierce elm]

I will be a chad max str

[urban skiff]

tavern brawler is +1 str or con, you'll have 1 ASI. If nobody plays astarion or uses strength, and you're lucky with mirror, you can get to 24 strength

[fierce elm]

Its more about FLAVOR than viability

[urban skiff]

but you'll need the amulet of health to get any notable con

[fierce elm]

oh yeah I am probably our frontline too lmao

[urban skiff]

I mean, i almost completed honour mode twice with a monk barb like this without optimization and going all flavour

[fierce elm]

Yeah this is all flavor no brain

[urban skiff]

Only reason I didn't complete honour mode is because I got distracted and started new

[fierce elm]

Nobody shouod be str but me

I think we are on rogue, one barb and 1 guy goes whatever someone else isnt

and the last guy isnt known for playing str characters

[urban skiff]

17 str, 14 dex, 16 con
tavern brawler str to 18 and asi to 20 or con to 18

[fierce elm]

probs the goal

Since half-orc too

[urban skiff]

If you can reserve the amulet of health you should swap dex and con

[supple wagon]

Its worth using it on cd ?
Or better to align with off cds ?
Or when ennemy is in danger ?
Or we have to target only shield ?

If we cant have some hints on the optimal use

[urban skiff]

hmm?

you see a shield, you use wrecking throw unless whatever attack you can do deals more damage when you subtract the shield value

[fierce elm]

Do not use on CD, use only on shields.

Only on the big shields

[urban skiff]

If there's a 1m shield your 1m wrecking throw would deal 120000 to the shield and 880000 to the target after.

If you send a 2m execute you'll deal 1m to the shield and 1m to the target

[supple wagon]

Thanks for the details guys 👍🏼

Any shield absorb value treshhold to optimize it ?

[green wharf]

respect are for the weak

real men have their build entirelly pre-planed before you start the game

[urban skiff]

real men don't plan

[urban skiff]

figure out your base damage on wrecking throw. Anytime your throw deals more damage than your normal attacks would do in its stead

[supple wagon]

It was what I though thanks for the confirmation

[urban skiff]

Remember it deals 8.5x more dam with the talents

[green wharf]

pre-planed means you just know

[fierce elm]

I have ran into an issue @urban skiff

I will not ahve enough strength to throw charcters

[urban skiff]

you should

hang on

[fierce elm]

Humans are like 20str

ish

Im gonna roll goblins though

[urban skiff]

you can get to 20 strength, nobody throws mediums in act1

[fierce elm]

I am gonna get to mediums act 1

I refuse

[urban skiff]

You need level 8 minimum for that or hag hair + level 4 OR elixir abuse

[fierce elm]

Might get hag hair

[rancid granite]

what did you guys do to that poor bear

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm i made you a chart

[fierce elm]

what the hell lmao

nerd

[urban skiff]

you will never throw anything higher than medium

[fierce elm]

I mean that I know

The idea there is to hit them with other people

Im glad they clarify sheep as small creatures lmao

what the fuck does the RED MEAN

[urban skiff]

means it's more than the max weight of a medium creature

[fierce elm]

ooooh

Im so confused over this chart

so I can kick and shove everyhing medium and below lvl 1

Also just found the Owlbear Randy savage build lmao

[urban skiff]

Yes, but at level 1 and 17 strength and advantage they need to beat a 34 athletics check

[fierce elm]

this is too nerd for me

ngl

[urban skiff]

super tldr: Take the heaviest creature you can throw, and throw them at the creature with the most same weight

[fierce elm]

there we go

[urban skiff]

then they'll both take the most damage and you also knock back your target, potentially shooting the target off a cliff

[fierce elm]

Yeah but owlbear giant form leap build

[urban skiff]

what you can't throw, you shove(kick) whichever distance makes them travel the longest vertically

[urban skiff]

supposedly doesn't work anymore. I haven't had access to a colossal elixir to test recently but some say we can no longer stack enlarge effects with different size mod names

[fierce elm]

Fucking CRINGe

[urban skiff]

it worked because of the max weight table for creature sizes

[fierce elm]

Anyways, I got my build going

[urban skiff]

Also randy savage is the wrong name

it's called Top Rope Owlbear

[fierce elm]

Randy Savage is the correct name

anything else is nerd

[urban skiff]

Nah

first come first name

[fierce elm]

DoS 2 my build was 'get hit and explode'

I died, killed everything close to me, then revived

[urban skiff]

mine was "If you survive to do anything i must have fallen asleep and pressed end turn"

[green wharf]

Did they add the giant sub?

it should be possible with then

dunno how they imported

[fierce elm]

Giant doesn't add anything

until level 10

to throw bigger creatures

unless Enraged throw has a different scaling

[green wharf]

lame

in the rpg you become large by lv 3

[fierce elm]

you do here too

however, it does not increase your str

Also @urban skiff Half-orc doesnt give me SHIT

[urban skiff]

Gives cheat death and extra dice on weapon attack crits.

[fierce elm]

It doesn't add on thrown

from what I can read

O wait it does

[urban skiff]

Halforc is always an aesthetic choice in bg3

[fierce elm]

what the FUCK

[urban skiff]

Throw is not unarmed. It's improvised weapon which is funky but somewhat unarmed.

Half orc + barb gives a lot of special tags for dialogue

[fierce elm]

Imrpovised weapon counts as melee unarmed too

[green wharf]

but should increase your ability to grapple/push/pull/drag/throw 🤷🏾‍♂️

one larger category you get to do more stuff, usually

[fierce elm]

[green wharf]

LAME

thats why the tabletop is better

[urban skiff]

You're going to wish I had stuck with playing bg3 when I bring my druid or necromancer summoner to the table

they both have strong sides and weak sides

[green wharf]

dont worry, i have many work arounds for summoners

i run a western marches campaign with about 70 people

every now and then people come wanting to break the game

[rancid granite]

ok you can just get these from the cache box for 100%'ing the siege

[fierce elm]

Im still tryna see how I can transmog Taeshalach

[copper fox]

Full bloody token gear from this season

• that

[fierce elm]

eh

Its too Gobliny

too much diy

[copper fox]

It’s gotta be a black Mog I feel like

Idk

[fierce elm]

Im just rocking mage tower rn

with it

with this seasons tabard

[urban skiff]

No such thing

As too gobliny

How much Bent over do i have to be to do Bent over rows with barbell?

If i want to do them from floor i have to move til much stuff, compared to the bottom spot on the power rack. Just hoping i can avoid that massive step every time i want to row

[copper fox]

There’s no real rule for it I just consider them variations.
If I go chest parallel I’m using much lighter weight and if I go slightly higher than that I can throw some more weight on.
Then there’s Yates rows which I like to incorporate sometimes too which are like a 45 degree and much heavier

I think they all have their place

Lighter weight and chest parallel probably the safest with the most return for 99% of people

[urban skiff]

My favorite was always kroc rows but i don't have equipment for that at home, and it's my own floor so dropping that kind of weight last reps is eugh

[copper fox]

I use to do those a lot yea

[urban skiff]

To be fair, my lower back dies a lot when i dont keep it completely locked every rep. Even super low weight can fuck my lower back for days or weeks if i dont keep it completely locked.

That's probably also a consideration to make, in favor of not parallel

Had two physical therapists say that my back just isn't good for deadlifting and idk how many doctors say it's definitely not a herniated disc but also they won't test it until i piss myself or my leg feels funny.

🙃

[copper fox]

Lmfao

Can you use do chest supported work then

@ebon steeple tf you been doom qing?
I’m in the gutter rn I tanked like 100+… got a little back tho

[green wharf]

you go to the transmogrifier and transmog your sword into it

can also use a mount that have the transmog npc

[sand sundial]

Yuck

[sand sundial]

Use the Amidrassil set

Or well season 3 pvp ones

[rancid granite]

or just mog it into another weapon because it is u-g-l-y

that reminds me i should do a quick mythic run for Fyrakk's axe

[urban skiff]

I suppose i could, if i had a contraption for supporting my chest.

Have to get a bit creative. Seal rows would be ideal, but would need blocks to balance my bench on and same problem as before where using the floor requires moving stuff first

I know a Smith so could get him to make something simple that i can plug into the rack i suppose

[sand sundial]

I have the thing, never bothered to finish it

I also want to go through shadowlands for mogs, need to get around to that as well

[rancid granite]

there's like 2 good axe mogs and it's 1 of them

[sand sundial]

The artifact ones are pretty solid

[rancid granite]

i just spent my time camping in SL the zones are so epic lol

[sand sundial]

I have a belf ret pala I did the venthyr campaign on him with blood knight transmogs

RP fun in 2025 kinda crazy

[rancid granite]

you get it friend

[urban skiff]

The mog from dk mop remix is goat

A 2h axe

[rancid granite]

which one 👀

[urban skiff]

Will link it if i remember it next time i log in

[idle falcon]

Funny

When im not focused on the game at all

I win

When im locked in

I lose or tie

💀

[ebon steeple]

I don't want to talk about it LMAO

It's been rough

[sharp meteor]

gotta give it just the right amount

id make alts of bad races and do better on those cos jsut relaxed and not carin

[idle falcon]

Bro i went to open the door twice in the same round and won 💀

I messaged the healer told him im sorry for being afk and he told me his addons were fucked aswell 💀

[frank knoll]

I have a superstition where if I’m on a winning streak and I change my transmog then suddenly I start losing

[frank knoll]

The weekly or the daily cache?

[rancid granite]

the ones from doing each siege, just participate til bar fills to 100%

[rancid granite]

the clutch teammates busting out the mog mount for me helped turn battles around

i only just learned its only like ~100k at the vendor

[exotic forge]

Remember: bad mog = bad warrior

[spice hornet]

Hi @copper fox

@idle falcon rip to Galachad

[urban skiff]

why can't drachtyr be shaman

that would be so cool

[rancid granite]

aw its only from remix?? i think i missed out

[urban skiff]

no clue

yep it's mop remix

might return in this colour or another in the trade post or next remix

they said they're prepping another remix

[copper fox]

I’m in the gutter

[spice hornet]

how bad

[rancid granite]

hope its legion and it wasnt just a wish/meme we've been seeing around

[copper fox]

Tanked over 100… got 30 of it back tho

[slow solstice]

[copper fox]

IM WORKING ON IT THO

DW

CHAT OFF HEAD DOWN

[rancid granite]

tilting your teammates with silence

[copper fox]

This week was bad so

[spice hornet]

did u like the lobby we had last night

yesterday I kept getting cage of carnage all day

and then when not cage it was mugambala

[copper fox]

I haven’t liked any lobby I’ve had

All week

Tbh

@spice hornet is it just me or has there been way more hpals than like a 2 weeks - month ago

[spice hornet]

yeah definitely, hpals and ret lobbies. had one with a frost mage so it was hpal ret mage. non stop getting glared and then have to kill them 10x over to win

[copper fox]

Yea I’m getting absolutely fried

Hpal ret and either mage or bm

Every game

Mainly ret tho

[spice hornet]

i cant stand the dev lobbies the most. they legit just hard W key you with disintegrate making it miserable

disintegrate having the slow baked into it

[copper fox]

Yea dev counters us hard

I also don’t even understand survival hunters

They either do millions of damage or none on my team

@spice hornet we had the hunter right? Who is that guy

I played 5 or 6 lobbies yesterday bouta do the same or more today

[spice hornet]

yeah some random surviv hunter

i think he was a shuff only player

[worldly oriole]

what healer mage tower is easiest

[spice hornet]

im not sure toni. Warrior doesn't have a healing specialization

[spice hornet]

is anyone actually using this dead talent?

they removed war banner to give us an even worse version of it lol.

shoulda left warbanner and buffed its radius and hp slightly. OR maybe slightly reduce the CD cuz it was too easy to fumble

[copper fox]

Nope completely dead

[idle falcon]

Indeed ;-;

[spice hornet]

do u ever bother with thane in shuff. keep trying it and feels like a waste about 95% of the time

when u could just end the game with a 35-40 to 0 execute

[copper fox]

Thane is fake damage

I play it very very rarely

[ebon steeple]

Thane feels okay into melee cleaves but I stay slayer most of the time.

[spice hornet]

100%

[urban skiff]

why does it read like it's only one cc on one target in the duration?

Like a grounding totem for all cc, but worse cd

[spice hornet]

its all teammates but 1 CC only right?

so dumb

its just not worth dropping shout for

[urban skiff]

get the 1 min rally instead and go from 3 rootbreaks in 3 minutes to 9 root breaks in 3 minutes

and I want to say bigger range as well

[kind sentinel]

even for blitz the shout only effects Party members, so if they are not in your group, you potentially don't hit them

[frank knoll]

@sharp meteor is BDK good in Delves

[sharp meteor]

ya

[rancid granite]

tanks are freelo in delves

[sand sundial]

Kinda crazy they took away so much and just gavr back such terrible stuff in return

[frank knoll]

I wish the stormwall talent was good

Would maybe see play if they didn’t make it share a node with IP

[lucid walrus]

bugs me so bad

was it just that nobody was taking berserker roar and they saw the opportunity to brick two things at once?

bc i still hate roar compared to piercing howl

[urban skiff]

another shaman almost ready to go

[fierce elm]

but why

[urban skiff]

I need to get 1800 faster than fucking 400+ rounds of shuffle

[dense herald]

execute doesnt do that much dmg

max 25% of someones hp

[fierce elm]

Oh yeah totally : )

[dense herald]

max execute ive hit was like 3.5mil with 3 stacks

am i doing something wrong

[fierce elm]

Yeah that is already 30% lmao

[spice hornet]

lol

You in s1 gear?

[fierce elm]

Getting a 4mill execute isnt the rarest thing in the world

especially not versus clothies

[dense herald]

im in conquest

well im not full gear and i was gearing while i was hitting 3.5mil

but i think the max i hit i killed another warrior from 20 something% to 0 in an execute

[sand sundial]

thane has its place in blitz i think

[dense herald]

only good when u can hit 2 targets constantly

melee cleaves or something

[copper fox]

Yea still fake pad

[dense herald]

yeah idk i was playing thane and against warrior ret and nothing was dying

i dealt like 50% more dmg than the other warrior but they still won

its fake dmg

[copper fox]

Slayer is just tuned so well compared idk

[dense herald]

executes chunks

idk i prefer slayer i love being able to stormbolt while bladestorming

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff hit lvl 4, took tavern brawler, went from doing 6 damage on improvised weapon to 25

This shit crazy

[sand sundial]

bg3 monk? ye

[fierce elm]

bg3 giant barb

Playing purely for MEMES rn

[sand sundial]

i havent gotten around to it, with the new update and all

ive been grinding rivals hard instead

[fierce elm]

I refuse to use weapons this playthrough unless we are in PURE desperation

[sand sundial]

its time to get back to this shit tho

[urban skiff]

yap

fun fact, they fixed tavern brawler for wildshape on honour mode now

So if you bring a TB moon druid expect to get outshined at every opportunity

[fierce elm]

We got a wildshape druid

A Blade warlock

and a thief rogue

and then my ass

[urban skiff]

Hexblade is fucking goat

[fierce elm]

I was fucking useless for the first 3 levels

like absurdly useless lmao

[sand sundial]

i do wanna try the hexblade

im a wizard/fighter type of guy though

have you guys ever played divinity 2?

[spice hornet]

My buddy alt got an unfortunate loss streak in placements for blitz and now this alt doesn’t get queue pops

He’s just testing to see how long it takes now. He’s at 2 hours no pop

[fierce elm]

kek

[spice hornet]

He’s not doing anything else, just straight up sitti. There

[sand sundial]

low mmr gets good queues during the day but past a certain threshold it does a 180 lmao

i had a 1 hr queue yesterday

now theyre 8-10m

[spice hornet]

2hrs no pop is insane

1hr is normal if you get high mmr in shuff or blitz

[sand sundial]

ye

tbh after 2400 it got fast insane for me

6m queue past 12pm

was pretty good

u start to recognize the names though

[spice hornet]

Yes I get meatbeaterx almost every time lmao

[sand sundial]

i just played with mr backshots and gripcity

[ebon steeple]

I seen them every now and then

I see cdew and mes a few times

[spice hornet]

I swear durability isn't correct in pvp

my sh alwasy breaking

faster than normal

still going

[elfin surge]

[spice hornet]

nah this is my buddies alt who lost a couple games in placements off the rip

hesj ust been sitting there not taking portals or other queues to see how long it takes to pop

[rancid granite]

shit probably bugged 2hrs ago

its gonna un-bug itself sometime.. maybe

[sharp meteor]

Pet specs still dmg it.

[spice hornet]

makes sense, IK was bout to say anytime I fought BM hunter it seemed to break the fastest

[sand sundial]

yet another reason to dislike bm

[sharp meteor]

also I'll do like two keys with no deaths and my gear is deadge

schizo theory is that they just wanna passively drain more gold so they make gear more delicate

[sand sundial]

i mean, ye

gear always took damage if u kept playing

[sharp meteor]

spam wiping on queen or ovinax and paying like 1500g each time

[lavish quest]

Yeah, then tmog swap is over 1k too. Shiz a scam

Just started boosting M+ again to acquire funds

[urban skiff]

got this while afk

[copper fox]

If he’s under 500mmr he won’t ever get a q it’s bugged

[sharp meteor]

Under 500 mmr

[copper fox]

He needs to duo q with a higher mmr healer

It’ll fix it

[sharp meteor]

Ohhh.

I've heard of that affecting a few people

start at 1300, lose a few times, get shadow realmed

[copper fox]

Yea it literally can’t pop lmao

Bigdam is actually a freak

At this game

[urban skiff]

I've played with people with 600 MMR so

[urban skiff]

that's what happened to me and wife. 1300 -> two losses took us under 1k and we had like both 600 mmr and 1700 mmr on the same team

[rugged temple]

am i screwed getting 4 set with PVP gear if i already used all my catalyst charges for my mythic + set

[fierce elm]

Can just use the Conquest item

to varnish them

so they have PvP scaling

Assuming they aren't Myth-track

If they are myth track and max upgraded it doesn't matter

[sharp meteor]

As Afro says just buy these to upgrade them to pvp ilev.

[fierce elm]

As Kennie says just buy these to upgrade them to pvp ilev.

goddamn your game is crisp looking

[rancid granite]

bet he gets a full steady 60fps in EBG's

[copper fox]

Is that clappy as in clapper the mage chaser

(No)

[copper fox]

Nice. That’s not under 500

[worldly oriole]

is that a virus

[spice hornet]

yeah it straight up won't pop

[grave rock]

I've had luck with requeueing after i feel like it's been an absurd amount of time

[sharp meteor]

Dang my longest was like 5 hours

[green wharf]

imagine waiting 3 h for a game and lose when yu find a match

but we have so many players

[rancid granite]

imagine you re-queued 3hrs ago and got a pop within 5mins instead

might as well keep pc on all night see what happens lmao

[sand sundial]

a whole bunch of nothing probably

ez

[exotic forge]

Almost 4 hours with no blitz is crazy

I'd expect that from shuffle

[verbal tangle]

are you EU?

[exotic forge]

US

Wait, that's on EU?

[verbal tangle]

I'm US, I get shuffle pops every 15 min or so

idk what the fuck you shitters are talking about

[exotic forge]

Depends on the rating threshold

[spice hornet]

2600+ mmr ur q's become like 1 hour minimum

[verbal tangle]

jesus christ

[exotic forge]

Can confirm

[green wharf]

1k mmr

its 20m above 1,6k

i guess people just quit after the set

especially with the weapons being mid and the enchant being shit

no reason to push

[honest sundial]

kennie is the best warrior in this discord

[urban skiff]

what are you a numbers guy?

[copper fox]

I’m a warrior main.. so no

[urban skiff]

so we agree 500 is 600

[copper fox]

Ok fair

Yes

[green wharf]

didnt you got 1mmr once?

or it was someone else

[copper fox]

He had 12 rating

[urban skiff]

that was rating

someone lefter after I won 1 shuffle round

[green wharf]

i know someone posted here that he was at 1mmr

[spice hornet]

Lied

My boomy was like 16 cr last season had a leaver after winning first round ever

Lowest mmr I ever saw was 984 in 3s somehow

[urban skiff]

it's interesting how something truly fucky happens with ratings when people leave while you're in the first round.

It's like they only apply the buffed ratings after the first round. Which has to have some logical reason behind it from a coding perspective but I can't see it

[spice hornet]

That is interesting. Maybe it’ll only be chunky when the rounds are beyond 3

[sharp meteor]

Idk how I had 42

[urban skiff]

why no 2400 prot

It's like you don't even want to be rank1

[fierce elm]

THE CUT HAS BEGUN AND I AM ALREADY DEPRESSED @urban skiff

[urban skiff]

Stop that and start being happy

Go buy a happy meal, supposedly the Minecraft toys are popular asf

[fierce elm]

naa it was time