pvp

[exotic forge]

Haven't seen em on the vendor though

[worldly oriole]

what vendor

where is the vendor

[rancid granite]

follow the quest to the camp

vendors at camp

[worldly oriole]

what quest

theres 1 million quests in the world of warcraft

[sharp meteor]

the one u get when u log in tonys

only 🇺🇸

[worldly oriole]

i logged in on level 79 character first. no quest

and didnt get on my level 10 rogue

the war within is the greatest pack ever

[exotic forge]

Lvl 80

[worldly oriole]

ye

just got em

on my 80

lmao backpedaling scum are camping the camp guiise

baby j wants his swag back

[spice hornet]

Toni I’m not gonna lie m8 I can’t understand what your messages say about 80% of the time

[exotic forge]

It's like I'm reading a gen Z shitpost

Hell, I'm gen Z and I don't even get it

[spice hornet]

I have Gen Z bros in mid school and high school and I can’t understand this dum ahh. Ts pmo icl

[exotic forge]

I hate zoomer humor

[worldly oriole]

THESE LOSERS are camping the new camp for the new quest

[exotic forge]

Just turn off warmode

Why would you go in with warmode on

[spice hornet]

Yeah Toni. Rookie move

[copper fox]

Toni probably has no clue what warmode is

@spice hornet we are in the rat league down here

[rancid granite]

warmode off is not an option for real men

Just kill them and go back to questing

[worldly oriole]

only cupcakes play no warmode

[rancid granite]

it's extra loot and pvp and a chance to stomp the horde

win win win

bet Victor used to play on rp servers back in the day

[exotic forge]

Nah I'm horde main, I'm being smart by turning off warmode

Horde never fights back

[worldly oriole]

new scenario is too much for me rn

[exotic forge]

[spice hornet]

I can’t stomach hours of queues for double or triple warr lobs

Shits awful

[worldly oriole]

lol

[spice hornet]

My last one was double lock dev on that big ass shadowlands map. The cosmic one

[worldly oriole]

i lost 36 points on my windwalker quing into BM ele shadowpriest

drop the psyfiend on the bm pets gg

[spice hornet]

You lost to a spriest that was psyfiending pets as a WW? Ton WW might not be for you

[worldly oriole]

he

dropped

psyfiend in a sea of bm pets

and i had many nameplates on screen

[spice hornet]

Once you get a proper UI you’re going straight to r1

I think my warrior sintimissi is 2605 or somehh th in

[copper fox]

Shit I just saw that t

I’m alone in the rat league

I was like 2630 something but got fkd by dadslapper so

[spice hornet]

He’s always queuing at like 3pm pst

So I just avoid that now

[copper fox]

yep that’ll be the goal

He’s intentionally keeping us down on that arms warrior so we can’t creep up on fury

[spice hornet]

Facts

I hate that one dev east wins

Wubz

[copper fox]

East wins lmfao

Yea he does like 2 million dps all game every round

[spice hornet]

Literally W keys warrior all game

[copper fox]

Yep

[spice hornet]

So annoying

[copper fox]

Dumb class

[spice hornet]

Cause he knows disintegrate is broken into warrior

So regarded

Those r1 range mmr games are just ultra sweaty

[copper fox]

Yea agreed it’s really all lobby luck at that point though

[spice hornet]

I also get that meatbeaterx guy a ton

Like does he log off

[copper fox]

Lmfao so many people seem like they q 24/7 idk how they do it

[robust hearth]

@spice hornet

[spice hornet]

What

[sharp meteor]

[exotic forge]

[urban skiff]

everyone knows top50 warrior is like not even comparable to top 500 enh

@fierce elm OMG WHAT CORRUPTION ENCHANT

[fierce elm]

you got until may 20th to figure that out

[spice hornet]

Zercher would be top 5 enh if he ran a real build and not a meme

[urban skiff]

i don't what know any of those words mean

[urban skiff]

wait, not right away?

BOO

@rancid granite i'm being called out now

https://youtu.be/UF6sRVjN-14?t=209

[sharp meteor]

corruptions aren't out and when they are u play void ritual gg

[sharp meteor]

Nice little heart attack in a can.

[hollow plover]

Had a double evoker lobby in suffle yesterday, pretty sure i met 50% of that classes playerbase in one game

[fierce elm]

this is arousing

[boreal veldt]

god the cd manager is hilarious

it's literally just all our buttons

[urban skiff]

Imagine if you could press them from the cd manager.

Maybe even assign keybinds to it

[hot solstice]

fury into sub/ww/frost mage...any chance for w's?

[fierce elm]

Plenty yea

[boreal veldt]

they broke "personal resource" UI too, i no longer see SS, Ava, or OP and Might stacks just under my character

[worldly oriole]

do I get up and play some wow or try to sleep more

[urban skiff]

I want to like the personal resources display, but something about how it can go under your cd manager is weird

[lavish quest]

Yeah, they could DC at any moment

[severe meteor]

Any good guides or tips for how to play Arms better in solo shuf? Dmg is low and constantly being focused til dead. Warlock discord has a great word doc that helped me learn what I was doing wrong playing Aff Lock

[rancid granite]

bajheera's YouTube is legit

[severe meteor]

I’ve been watching him and it’s helped me figure out who I should be targeting. Just not sure how I’m doing 1/2 the dmg of every ranged when I’m glued to the squishiest class all round

[lavish quest]

Press your bootins do big dam, win

[severe meteor]

Usually when I die I realize I was zugging my shit too hard not playing right

[lavish quest]

Don't chase too much. If you're rp walking towards someone you're not doing dmg

[severe meteor]

What about defensives?

[lavish quest]

Press em when people press offensives and target you

[copper fox]

Download weakauras that play the game for you and tell you when to press buttons

And if your dmg is that bad use that addon that shows you your rotation until you got it down

I forget what it’s called

Literally tells you what to press next

[lavish quest]

Download a bot

[severe meteor]

Yea I feel like it’s hard to see when people are pressing their big buttons on me unless it’s telegraphed. Too busy charging around the map

[copper fox]

Well I don’t think there’s anyone with any relevant rating that doesn’t use mes WA pack or something similar

[lavish quest]

Warrior is the hardest class

[copper fox]

It is

[fickle forge]

Upload a VOD

[lavish quest]

Pretty sure Bless is the #1 Colossus Enthusiast

[fickle forge]

Nein

[severe meteor]

I’ll try to upload one tonight if I get time

[worldly oriole]

DANG ive been up since 5 am

[exotic forge]

Only time I lost sleep with WoW was back in Legion

Good times

[worldly oriole]

yeah legion was deff a banger

just got the mount with the heads from timewalking

i think i told my guild to sell mine back in the day coulda got mythic one

[exotic forge]

Ah the ur'zul

I was so confused lol

[worldly oriole]

yea

its actually sick

[exotic forge]

S'alright

[copper fox]

It’s literally 4/5 hours ago?

Do you usually struggle to stay awake for 5 hours

[fierce elm]

lmao

[scarlet barn]

lol

[worldly oriole]

na im saying

5 is early as hell

its 9 the day barely started

[copper fox]

For most people the days been started brother you’ve just been in a basement for decades

[worldly oriole]

lmfao !!

[lavish quest]

I wake up at 4:30 daily

Git gud

[spice hornet]

[rancid granite]

just wake up an hour earlier for brahma muhurat

[lavish quest]

Wut

[lavish quest]

Seems like I'm hitting the time slot just fine atm

I am ascending

[rancid granite]

a real warrior main

gym gains aren't enough

need the spiritual gains too

[copper fox]

Are servers up

[rancid granite]

yessir

[copper fox]

Damn

This CD manager is whack

[rancid granite]

oh warbreaker is back

mega buff

[copper fox]

Where buffs

[rancid granite]

arms buff*

[urban skiff]

sounds like something a mage would stack

[rancid granite]

lol

or a ret paladin

[dense herald]

?

lemmme c

[rancid granite]

why is it always so hard to find the recent patch notes

warbreaker feels like a fun button to press again

[urban skiff]

what did they do to it

[ebon steeple]

The new animation I'm guessing

Since I Don't see any posts about pvp changes

[rancid granite]

YES IM MAKING A JOKE but kinda serious

the new warbreaker animation is basic and solid so its considered a buff

cause if you look cool doing shit you play better

[copper fox]

Tf

[rancid granite]

am i wrong tho

[dense herald]

yes

well actually

on 2nd thoughts

https://tenor.com/view/thats-not-ridiculous-thats-not-ridiculous-to-say-that-thats-not-ridiculous-meme-gif-11489839477285394127

[rancid granite]

😂 🥰

[urban skiff]

idk if i'm playing wrong but when warbreaker looks like it did in 11.1 i just didn't press it

The secret Arms tech is to not press buttons that make you look stupid

[rancid granite]

yeah now i want to swap to it for colossus in cleave matchups

gamechanger

[dense herald]

i miss the ret explosion talent

that was in shadowlands and i think bfa

[rancid granite]

what was that

i remember the OG reckoning bomb THAT was epic

[dense herald]

when you did your holy power spending damaging abilities you let out a holy explosiion

dealing extra damage

[rancid granite]

sounds neat

[dense herald]

final reckoning was better (i think) but the animation was actually so cool

[rancid granite]

anything they do is cool when they dont go overboard with the hammer animations

[urban skiff]

"You know what this meal needs?"
"is it more hamm-"
"MORE HAMMER!"

[boreal veldt]

Leland is modded, he has spoken

I am the Colossusest

[rancid granite]

i feel like im the only one who is playing it though

[fickle forge]

I'm the one posting my one shots though

[rancid granite]

if we're gonna go with the 'who has the biggest button' it's gonna be bless cause he'll roid it up with pure mastery

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897055819475091456/1355663460398141652/image.png?ex=680a0c3b&is=6808babb&hm=ec56d040600c0866c65c345e79c74b4c3cf6cb20ffee71e4cd582f6e94890891&

Post it up brother

[boreal veldt]

So

I don't run addons

Whats a good way to do that

I can screen cap my cute lil chat-log over the body of the fallen

[copper fox]

thunderous roar

[fickle forge]

Chad Thunderous

[lucid walrus]

didn't know it went that high this season

[green wharf]

im leveling another warrior to get the damn hero itens for transmog

shit rng just give me trinkets and rings

might as well gear him with haste to play arms

[worldly oriole]

HEROic?

[green wharf]

if you do high lv delves you get hero gear 1/6

so you can turn into tier piece and get the heroic transmog

lv up and you get mythic appearance

[sharp meteor]

ya and 5/6 hero gives mythic

which is like lol lmao

[green wharf]

but i only getting shit trinkets and rings

[lavish quest]

I mean it's mythic ilvl at that point

[worldly oriole]

damn i needa get in them delves brother

[rancid granite]

anything to avoid doing actual heroic raid 😛

[worldly oriole]

they dont invite me

im 646 now though

almost ready to get invited

[chilly pivot]

i like the buff (wrecking throw)

[copper fox]

wtf is this dumb event

Added another renown FOR WGAT

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/fashion-gif-26050555

i want to say RP but its all about mogs and toys

[fierce elm]

MOGS THE TRUE ENDGAME

[copper fox]

Insane now I gotta do undermine and this at the same time

In 11 weeks I’ll have the only thing I gave a shit about in undermine tho

The trex mount

[rancid granite]

wtf is undermine thats old news

[copper fox]

Undermine has been the best wpvp in the game in a long time

[fickle forge]

It's BACK baby

[lavish quest]

Content

[lavish quest]

Just raid when the Cap is done and catch up is in

[copper fox]

I raid now anyway it’s fine

But yo

@elfin surge thoughts

[spice hornet]

Celsius >>>>>

[fierce elm]

Celsius is so good man

and 20mg more caffeine

here at least

Monster is more hydrating due to being more liquid

[spice hornet]

Monsters, like most energy drinks, taste like ass though

[fierce elm]

Naa

White monster is pretty good

Celsius has some good flavors

Reign is also pretty good

[copper fox]

Celsius is literally a soccer mom drink

[fierce elm]

Yeah but its 200mg caffeine

[worldly oriole]

anyone know anything about outlaw

[fierce elm]

instead of 180

placebo effect

[fierce elm]

whats up buddy

[copper fox]

Yea but white monster is crisp af and euphoric

[worldly oriole]

trickster or fatebound

for 3s

[fierce elm]

There are builds for both

Both are entirely passive and forget lmao

[worldly oriole]

i just did negative dmg as fatebound

[fierce elm]

Thats just Outlaw

[worldly oriole]

no poisons tho rip

[fierce elm]

because I reckon you arent good at outlaw

but really both hero talents work

[copper fox]

Tony based on your ratings you do negative damage on everything

[fierce elm]

Outlaw is rough

its also in a rough state in general due to nerfs

[worldly oriole]

dont wanna jinx myself but i can deff climb soon i havent got real 3s

[fierce elm]

you keep saying that

[worldly oriole]

should i go sub

[fierce elm]

Sub is better rn

but also probably harder lmao

[worldly oriole]

ive played sub b4

[fierce elm]

Yeah okay?

lmao

[worldly oriole]

just sayin its not entirely new

like outlaw

[copper fox]

If you’re a 3k dh why not just play dh

[spice hornet]

I am a soccer mom

[worldly oriole]

i played dh for legion and bfa

i can still que dh and play other things

[copper fox]

And? It’s the same 3 buttons

[spice hornet]

[worldly oriole]

yeah its still dh

[copper fox]

My point is just get on your dh and get rating then go suck at other classes

If you’re already a good dh

[worldly oriole]

trying to

just played dh dk for a sec then my net shit the bed

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-wheel-run-gif-10746499

the wow player

the wheel is the hats

[rancid granite]

yall need to relearn coffee and tea

[rancid granite]

i know its like B tier atm

[worldly oriole]

damn im about to hop off then

[rancid granite]

still got some nerds getting up there in ss though

[fickle forge]

I mean outlaw is crazy af rn

Does actual damage now as well

[rancid granite]

wait no SS tier list A thats not so bad

[worldly oriole]

i just gotta get outta the greens

and put poisons on my weps

xD

[rancid granite]

no clue what happened to assa for them to get marked down a slot

[fickle forge]

Meta changed

And feral is assassa, but twice as good

[rancid granite]

ah right that makes sense then =p

[fickle forge]

Feral is literally unhealable during incarn

[fierce elm]

Assa is behind sub now

If you are a good player

Sorry

Outlaw

Due to the absolute blitz attack nerf they got lmao

Which was HUGE

[fickle forge]

AWC must suck then since it was 95% outlaw

[fierce elm]

AWC has been sub/feral ever since nerf

Keep up nerdass

Though Outlaw is way more fun

[worldly oriole]

smh i need all new gear

[green wharf]

was it? i saw sub too

more than outlaw i think

but i didnt saw all days

[fickle forge]

I only saw Kubzy's team run sub

[fierce elm]

Everyone else went feral

Outlaw just got dumpstered by the nerf

like it was legit huge

[fierce elm]

Or just play outlaw lmao

[worldly oriole]

LOL

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-disappointed-disgusting-disgusted-looking-gif-6561690286467128067

[rancid granite]

you havent played sub yet obv

get one good round of sub where you line things up perfectly and get your burst on and its like

https://tenor.com/view/get-him-to-the-greek-gif-5404466

popped off yesterday and went 6-0; then back to warrior to afk dps

[copper fox]

@rancid granite is the new shit daily or weekly

[rancid granite]

daily

[copper fox]

Rip

[rancid granite]

the 3 dailies take like 5mins though

and siege is once an hour and is quick; you can loot the boss every time but the token it seems is daily

[copper fox]

Token gives rep?

I did them all today

Forgot

[rancid granite]

token gives you armor sets, you can use it to buy the white set and dark set, but you can get dark set from boss loot =p

its just superbloom, or waking shores siege, love these things

bless the type of people who use these events for catchup gear though whoever they may be 🙏

[frank knoll]

I got dark set from the little boxes from the Daily
The siege was bugged yesterday idk if they fixed it or not

[exotic forge]

Wrecking Throw + Demolition insta pops monk cocoon

[rancid granite]

o yeah they drop from there too... siege is buggy as shit but ive still been able to see the boss spawn and get loot lol

[frank knoll]

Gonna get the leather and the plate sets
Think the others look gay tbh

[rancid granite]

same

i assume the white weapon models will come to vendor later or something

[copper fox]

Ah ok yea I got that already

[exotic forge]

Supposedly

[robust hearth]

https://x.com/weedtylerx/status/1915261612119777567

weedT (@weedtylerx) on X

WEEDYLYMPICS 2025. 🏆

3 DAYS...

4/26 & 4/27

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[urban skiff]

i need a reminder when they start streaming that shit. I want to watch

just a team with all enhancement shamans

[urban skiff]

well this is an excellent way for me to feel like i'm better than 1800 lol

[supple wagon]

What’s this website ?

[urban skiff]

dreamwalk.app

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1k6791d/view_your_current_ratings_adjusted_for/

[supple wagon]

Thanks

[urban skiff]

It's definitely motivational and makes me feel better than i have any right to lol

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm did you see? I'm actually a 2200 player lol

[fierce elm]

the fuck is this lmao

I wanna adjust for inflation 😦

[urban skiff]

try it out

@fierce elm kick is amazing

[fierce elm]

WHERE

[urban skiff]

dreamgrove.app

[fierce elm]

ALSO NO TIME

Oblivion when I come home

[urban skiff]

since shove is superior to shove in every way I want them to just replace shove with kick

but bg3!

[fierce elm]

OBLIVION

[urban skiff]

I'm almost through first half of act1

[fierce elm]

the fuck

I cant get in

[urban skiff]

sorry, my bad

it's dreamwalk.app

it also has an addon for immediately getting the link to look players up when in shuffle etc

[fierce elm]

lmao this is so useless info

[urban skiff]

lol tattle

[urban skiff]

for now, i'm sure it's just a matter of tuning the formula

It's pretty simple math as long as your current rating is earned recently (and not sprinting to 2400 CR during 2 days of game breaking bug that makes you one-shot people)

@fierce elm

[scarlet barn]

You might have a problem

[urban skiff]

My problem is the game is too good

[fierce elm]

lmao

neeerd

[elfin surge]

[copper fox]

Mud inspire my meme for today

Go

White monster related

Ofc

[worldly oriole]

goodmorning guise

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-gif-14665964756427917240

[exotic forge]

I blame you for the berserker rage fix

[exotic forge]

My goat fell off

[elfin surge]

I main overwatch now

[exotic forge]

Smh

Unsubbing from twitch

[elfin surge]

LOL

DOOMED

[exotic forge]

[worldly oriole]

should i play sub or sin

[copper fox]

Fury

[worldly oriole]

already have one of those

[fierce elm]

One of them

[worldly oriole]

lol i have two epic medallions on my dh

accidentally bought 2

[hollow plover]

Female orc-> sin
Otherwise sub

[copper fox]

Alright this will be the first of 3-5 slides for today

ITS A FEEL GOOD THURSDAY I GUESS

@elfin surge

[elfin surge]

LOL BIS

i need a white monster now

[copper fox]

Cracked my first at 5am

[green wharf]

why white though

the red one is much better

[worldly oriole]

white monster is trash

it's all about the white venom

or zero sugar NOS

[iron ravine]

Idk how you kids can drink that shit, it just tastes of chemicals to me

[worldly oriole]

im an adult

hun

[iron ravine]

how old are you?

[worldly oriole]

LMFAOO OOOOOOO

[green wharf]

its just like any soda, dont see any difference

[iron ravine]

it really isnt, but id take a pepsi over that anyday

[worldly oriole]

monster is too expensive

[iron ravine]

is it?

[worldly oriole]

they want 4.45 for the big can of monster

and it only has 210mg of caffeine

[iron ravine]

I got the white one months ago and hated it

[green wharf]

the ones with different flavours are, there is orange, watermelon

those are good

the white one is meh

[worldly oriole]

i can get 2 venoms for 2 bucks

[iron ravine]

I just drink water, tea, coffee, and wine

[green wharf]

But i have ADHD so when i drink then i get sleepy instead

[green wharf]

wine lol

put some vodka there brother

[iron ravine]

no thanks

[green wharf]

or something stronger

[elfin surge]

[iron ravine]

why? I dont drink it to get drunk

[fierce elm]

so hardcore

[green wharf]

then why drink

[iron ravine]

i enjoy the taste

[copper fox]

You’re all bums

[green wharf]

[copper fox]

White monster is bis

[fierce elm]

Also what the fuck 5 bucks for a Monster

hello

[green wharf]

watermelon>

[worldly oriole]

yeah they wanted 5 bucks for the big can

[copper fox]

You also all bench less than 315 maybe if you drank more white monster you’d bench more

[fierce elm]

lmao

[worldly oriole]

the regular can is 3 bucks

the huge can they wanted 4.45

and theres not much caffeine in it

[green wharf]

one can of monster here is more expensive then 2L of cola

shit is expensive a fuck

[fierce elm]

200mg is a lot

just saying

[copper fox]

It’s pure bliss

[fierce elm]

Like I know we like to meme about it

[copper fox]

Euphoric. More than a drink

[fierce elm]

and abuse it

but 200mg is a lot lmao

[copper fox]

lol

[fierce elm]

A cold ass white monster while darkness rages outside

aint nuthin like it

[worldly oriole]

i slam 200s

white venom is 180 and i drink 2 always

[fierce elm]

Slam 200s to have subpar lifts

what the hell

[iron ravine]

i would put that on my Resume

[worldly oriole]

lol

im self employed like a true alpha

jk

[elfin surge]

@copper fox

[urban skiff]

Fuck yeah i love machining

I miss the smell of a workshop

[copper fox]

[copper fox]

Lmfao

[elfin surge]

thats what i do

[urban skiff]

i hated using the lathe, i loved milling

Bet it's all the same these days

we still had punch cards with the programs on them when I was apprenticing

[rancid granite]

I really assumed rogue mains would be the monster drinkers

but yall a bunch of animals

[urban skiff]

tbh there's a very small overlap between PWO drinks and energy drinks so it's only natural warriors dabble in monster

[rancid granite]

lmao I've never tried or know what's in them but I always hear "I drank too much my hearts going to explode"

so yeah

[urban skiff]

i drank one right after taking my ADHD meds and going on a car ride

Do normal people really experience the entire ride when they drive?

[sharp meteor]

Monster is nice and tasty without being too much caffeine.

They can be a little syrupy though and idk about ever having more than one.

[urban skiff]

My caffeine addiction never got bad until i started working with people

[sharp meteor]

Bang or w/e is like 300 mg and fries me.

[urban skiff]

the 2nd never tastes as good as the first

[sharp meteor]

Yuh.

Low blood sugar then having juice monster hits crazy hard

[rancid granite]

bet you all loved that Starbucks drink that was giving people heart attacks

wait no the panera bread charged lemonade drink

[sharp meteor]

I never got the chance to try that.

Idk after a certain point it's like drinking liquid anxiety.

[fierce elm]

I was using Rich Pianas pwo when I first started out

its like 500mg caffeine lmao

It was not good

[sharp meteor]

[fierce elm]

used it for a month

Now its 180mg before each workout

or 200mg depending on which drink is cheapest

[sharp meteor]

ye that decent amount

[copper fox]

I will say the new peach ghost

Is insane

[urban skiff]

i have genuinely never been to a starbucks

something about the entire thing that is just straight up offensive to me

[fierce elm]

Its pretty great

expensive as fuck though

[urban skiff]

afro how do i bodybuild

[copper fox]

Squeeze

That’s it

[fierce elm]

I don't bodybuild

[urban skiff]

neither do i

Figured you still knew shit about it

[fierce elm]

What do you wanna know

its the same principle as lifting lmao

Lift heavy weights until you cant anymore

eat protein

Want to be more autistic about it? squeeze and go slow

[sharp meteor]

me lift heavy thing make feel good

[urban skiff]

Yeah but like specifically what rep range / RPE / 1rm%?

[sharp meteor]

lift thing until you can't lift thing

[fierce elm]

🤷‍♀️

8-12 I would guess lmao

[urban skiff]

Some people say 6-8 reps, some say 8-12, idk

but if I can do 8-12 with 60% i can also do it with 40%

[sharp meteor]

confusing number just lift thing

[urban skiff]

so what is the goal even? To have zero reps left when i hit 12 reps?

clueless

[fierce elm]

I can tell you that I haven't seen a man with a small chest incline bench 315

I would just go to failure

you are overcomplicating it

I haven't seen a guy with small delts OHP 225

[urban skiff]

not overcomplicating it, i need just any base info to get started with

[fierce elm]

But you already have the base information

I would just increase rep ranges

and make reps slower

[urban skiff]

I ohp 100kg and i don't think my delts look big

[fierce elm]

Go to failure, eat protein,

Bodybuilding is like 95% Diet anyways

[urban skiff]

Yeah I'm not going to go full bodybuilding or anything

[fierce elm]

I would just add more 'slow' to failure stuff

[urban skiff]

I just need something to spice things up a bit. Lost like 5kg on accident and now my abs are out in public and I figure I might as well try and look slightly better

[rancid granite]

id probably go if i had a translator to order something for me.. shits confusing to me

[copper fox]

Your rep count is irrelevant. Dallas McCarver was one of the biggest upcoming bodybuilders and did sets of 3 regularly.
You want to add muscle? Lift to RIR 1-2 and eat in a surplus. Want to cut? Do the same and eat in a deficit. It’s not hard.
6 reps doesn’t meant any more or less than 10 does if the overall output of the set is the same

[urban skiff]

If he's a biggest bodybuilder the rules that apply to him don't apply to people who aren't doped up to the gills m8 😦

[copper fox]

The only thing you change is your negative speed

[urban skiff]

I'm only on normal amounts of test

[spice hornet]

Stfu and just lift Zercher

[copper fox]

Same rules apply to normal people

[urban skiff]

what

[copper fox]

If your test is 200 or 2000… you lift the same way. The only difference is the amount being lifted

That’s what

And it’s a fact

[urban skiff]

No it's not lol

When I started on test my squat went up despite not squatting

[copper fox]

I’ve put natural AND unnatural people on stage. You’re wrong

[urban skiff]

PEDs change all the rules

[copper fox]

Lmfao

Ok

Again. Weight on the bar is irrelevant. Your squat going up without squatting is irrelevant to the conversation

All that says is PEDs made you strong

Nice

Cool

You can get stronger without gaining a single pound of muscle

People do it in their weight class ALL the time

That’s why this topic means nothing to bodybuilding

The same principles of lifting apply to non natty and natty lifters

For bodybuilding ^

[fierce elm]

Yeah I am on the side that using PEDs does not change how you should train

merely affects recovery t b h

[urban skiff]

Yeah this

[fierce elm]

However

It should be fine

[copper fox]

Yea if you’re on gear you’re lifting more weight generally so that is covered by the enhanced recovery

[urban skiff]

I just want to fix up my wonky looking delts, not be told to do the exact same thing I'm already doing

😦

[fierce elm]

lmao

do them better

[worldly oriole]

I'm a stud

[urban skiff]

what the fuck is going on

[worldly oriole]

sick lego

[copper fox]

Have a shoulder only day and do lateral raises like 3x a week as well

Shoulders recover well so they can take it

[worldly oriole]

I do 2 versions of laterals

on push day

[urban skiff]

i don't have time for that

[worldly oriole]

already maxed out cable side raise with the old cables they had

[copper fox]

I mean a set of lateral raises takes 20 seconds

[worldly oriole]

2 shoulder presses like an absolute unit

[urban skiff]

I

[fierce elm]

Literally can do lateral raises before you go to bed with a band

[copper fox]

You can’t throw 3 sets in at the end of your lower workout?

[fierce elm]

I have been doing lateral raises 3-5x a week since I started

[copper fox]

That’s less than 90 seconds

[fierce elm]

to not run into this issue

[worldly oriole]

behind the back lateral raise

[urban skiff]

i'm already doing lateral raises like 5 sets every session and they're just straight up boring

[copper fox]

Bodybuilding is boring lol

[urban skiff]

If I had cable arrangement I'd definitely feel it though

[worldly oriole]

you don't need 5 sets

[urban skiff]

i'm just doing shit during my breaks

[worldly oriole]

do 2 exercises with 3 sets for side delt

twice a week try

[copper fox]

Tony

[urban skiff]

I have a home gym and very limited time

[fierce elm]

5 sets goddamn

[copper fox]

Horrible advice

Stop

[worldly oriole]

upright rows

why's it bad

[copper fox]

Tony jfc

[urban skiff]

it's only for 12 reps with like 10-12kg

[fierce elm]

6 sets of lateral raises WEEKLY?

[urban skiff]

It's all my dumbbells are good for

[fierce elm]

Do 5x20 lmao

[copper fox]

19 lateral raise sets a day

[worldly oriole]

3 sets 2 exercises... twice a week

it's 12 sets a week

the recommendation is 10 to 20 sets a week

[urban skiff]

guess I'll do them every time i die in shuffle

[copper fox]

Set # irrelevant. Energy output / effort is relevant

[worldly oriole]

Thomas Edison harnessed electricity before computers were invented

[copper fox]

And Tony pajamas is a bodybuilder that doesn’t look like he lifts

[fierce elm]

400 sets per day

[copper fox]

People need to stop giving advice who haven’t experienced growth themselves or coached it.
Tony out here telling Blizo how to play warrior when he’s stuck at 1400

[fierce elm]

I like high rep stuff for lateral raises

and always preferred cables

over shitty ass DBs

[worldly oriole]

lol?

[copper fox]

I love cable stuff in general

[worldly oriole]

I use periodization for every exercise

[copper fox]

Infinite tension

[urban skiff]

So what is the actual mechanism that makes bodybuilding bodybuilding? For powerlifting it's super simple: Highest intensity.

I assume for bodybuilding it's something like highest volume after a specific amount of fatigue has been accumulated?

[fierce elm]

Cable is goated for stuff like this

[fierce elm]

literal same

lmao

[copper fox]

Yea it’s the exact same brother

[fierce elm]

All pro bodybuilders are strong

All pro powerlifters that are low BF look good

[copper fox]

RIR 1-2 which means the intensity is high

That’s bodybuilding

[worldly oriole]

you can build muscle with lower intensity I'm pretty sure

but I wouldn't recommend it

[fierce elm]

yes, but its also highly inefficient

lmao

[copper fox]

Yea sure you can if you have 10 years to spare

[urban skiff]

so as long as no failure i'm gucci?

[fierce elm]

You can go to failure still

[copper fox]

Yea don’t fail much. Occasional failure is okay

[fierce elm]

Pretty sure the science of it all is that you don't want complete failure on everything

because that shit is impossible to keep up longterm

[copper fox]

You can pick like 1 exercise at the end of a workout to take to failure

Typically not a “big” one

Like a press etc

But taking a set of cable work to failure occasionally is fine

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm when you try to train the druid and he gives you this look (Only bg3 players understand)

[fierce elm]

Powerlifting and Bodybuilding is practically the same shit

It only differs to even out weak spots and you don't really give a fuck about how you look in Powerlifting (if you are a soulless freak)

Like, you wouldn't spend the shitty energy on doing extra bicep stuff because that shit doesn't matter generally

Bodybuilders try to say that they are traning to 'look strong' but in reality that in most cases mean 'be strong' lmao

and would benefit from lifting heavier

The only dudes that are unique in their training aspect is Strongmen

[worldly oriole]

how much yall incline bench

hit 225 for 3x3 paused last sesh

[fierce elm]

315

[urban skiff]

idk, somewhere between 150 and 100

[fierce elm]

315 for a paused single was the last time I tried to go heavy on regular incline

now its smith machine only kek

[urban skiff]

probably depends on the incline angle

[fierce elm]

it does

[worldly oriole]

reverse grip smith

like a chad

[fierce elm]

brother w h a t

[worldly oriole]

it's for upper chest I think

[copper fox]

365x3 but I’ve never maxed it out

I can probably hit 405 incline if I trained it for a month

For 1

[fierce elm]

Its a max out for funsies

but realize it has no purpose

[copper fox]

Yea exactly lol

[worldly oriole]

how much yall bulgarian

[fierce elm]

0

[urban skiff]

suicide bench

[urban skiff]

does the damage spill over after breaking shield?

[worldly oriole]

I've maxed out all my Bulgarians basically

for bodybuilding

[urban skiff]

so like split squats or?

[worldly oriole]

yeah

[fierce elm]

How the fuck do you max out bulgarians

lmao

[worldly oriole]

80 two dumbbells

100 outside

[urban skiff]

I guess you run out of stuff to put in your hands?

[worldly oriole]

55 inside

[fierce elm]

You can literally do bulgarians with the bar

[worldly oriole]

narbell plate

[fierce elm]

I am being trolled stg

[worldly oriole]

with the barbell it becomes impractical after a certain point to build muscle no?

[fierce elm]

bro what the fuck does that even mean

[copper fox]

I just figured out the answer so many questions I’ve had over the last month

Truly

I have mentally ascended

[fierce elm]

There are like 800 ways to load bulgarians my brother

[worldly oriole]

on the inside it becomes hard to balance

[fierce elm]

Also, unless you are doing like 25+ reps

you haven't maxed out shit lmao

[worldly oriole]

my max there is 55

[fierce elm]

brother what

[worldly oriole]

how much u bulgarian on the inside?

2ith one dumbbell

[copper fox]

Maybe he means he’s maxed it out in the sense of like

He hit his max

[fierce elm]

Bro I am so confused over what you even fucking mean

[copper fox]

Possible

[worldly oriole]

ys

yes

[fierce elm]

What the fuck do you mean inside

also what the fuck that is not the max you could ever do

[worldly oriole]

the dumbbell is on the inside

[fierce elm]

You are telling me you are fucking maxed out bulgarians with a 3x8

[copper fox]

Lmfao

[fierce elm]

brother that is more of a balancing act than fucking muscle building lmao

I am being TROLLED DUDE

[copper fox]

MAXED OUT

[fierce elm]

what the hell

[worldly oriole]

lols

yeah I don't lift in vans

anymore

[fierce elm]

Yeah no you have not maxed it out

yhou can go higher in your lifetime I believe

[copper fox]

I’ll tell you what he has maxed out in his lifetime

His rating in game

[rancid granite]

tony is a blessing to this chat

[copper fox]

He really is

[fierce elm]

he really is

I have never seen someone so confident

yet so wrong

[boreal veldt]

i'm so happy i opened disc

[copper fox]

I wish I had tonys confidence

[boreal veldt]

we'd be too powerful with just an oz of that confidence

[sterile moth]

@fierce elm I have…it always amazes me. The more you know, the more you realize you don’t know shit

[copper fox]

[rancid granite]

he must surely have a blissful life 😂

[copper fox]

Speaking of bodybuilding

My cut starts next week

Not looking forward to it

[urban skiff]

good news, i'm now a 2.2k player without getting my rating up

www.dreamwalk.app

[fierce elm]

Mine starts tomorrow lmao

fuck me

gotten CHONKY

[sharp meteor]

inflation and its consequences

everybody just adding numbers

[urban skiff]

but this is someone else adding the numbers for me so it totally counts

[copper fox]

Haha what is that app that’s weird

[sharp meteor]

dreamwalk

just adds 300 cr so u can eyeball where u are at seas end

[copper fox]

Ah

[sharp meteor]

but realstically people winstreak then apply 300 cr and think that means something

then spend rest of seas 200 below

idk

lot of people afk until last month and by then too late

[urban skiff]

It's a work in progress, the idea is good but now he needs to work on his execution

[sharp meteor]

to correct mishaps

i mean its what 20 mmr per week generally

aside from verdant which was 5 lmaooo

[urban skiff]

i want to say 17

[copper fox]

No one played verdant tho

[urban skiff]

which one was verdant? 4th?

[copper fox]

3

[sharp meteor]

? lmao

[urban skiff]

oh the one where fury set bonus was fucking stupid

[sharp meteor]

third seas of df

colgate lizard mount

[copper fox]

Everyone and their mothers have a s4 df drake

[sharp meteor]

ya cos draconic was so gigamegajuiced omg

[copper fox]

Besides me because I quit after verdant lol

For a but

[sharp meteor]

verdant was 2400 strugglebussin

[copper fox]

Bit

Yep

[sharp meteor]

drac was like two queue sessions to 2800 then done

[copper fox]

I got my green drake and was burned out a bit

[sharp meteor]

ya everybody i know barely slid over the line in s3 and was like

hahahah why did i do that lmaooo this mount is terrible

[urban skiff]

please tell me this season is also strugglebus

[sharp meteor]

i like it though

[copper fox]

I regret not getting s4 mount tho

[sharp meteor]

umm its about standard now i think

[sharp meteor]

omg did unot

aaaaaaaaaaaa

[copper fox]

No lol I quit for the season

[sharp meteor]

biggest regret in this game is frying myself in crimson and not playin the end

[urban skiff]

so 1950 relatively early season is what?

ok-ish?

[copper fox]

I played thousands of games in crimson lol

Love that mount

[sharp meteor]

in what

[urban skiff]

shuff

[sharp meteor]

eh

[urban skiff]

in 2s i'm stuck at 1900 mmr

[copper fox]

2s is actually hard imo

lol

[sharp meteor]

2s is hard and weird cos like its not rly played

[urban skiff]

we play disc enh so it's kinda ez mode

[sharp meteor]

disc enh is hardmode dawg

[copper fox]

Yea you’re playing the game on hard mode for sure

[sharp meteor]

that gets giga smashed by warr rogue ww hunter

[urban skiff]

nah, we're having a way easier time than we did last season. And last season we played feral disc

and I'm an excellent feral player,

[sharp meteor]

idk how ot say this

hm

[urban skiff]

Of course there are other factors. Like how season1 was the first time she got 1800 ever. So this season she's already doubled her experiience

[copper fox]

What’s your highest xp on a class?

[urban skiff]

literally this season, 1947 shuffle enh

[copper fox]

Tbh you’re probably a better enh than feral player… feral is actually hard af to be good at

Feral doesn’t even feel oppressive until like 2600 mmr in shuffle

When it’s like

[urban skiff]

I've been playing feral since vaniilla. I got like rank12 or something to get dps gear for pve

I just never bothered doing actual arena but the gameplay of feral and maximizing damage is super easy

[copper fox]

You’re a big stats guy tho

Just look at the stats

Of 2v2

Any rating

Any region

Of feral vs enh

It’s like

Not even a close comparison

[urban skiff]

I mean I always stopped at 1800 rating in everything so I have no measure of where my ceiling is

[copper fox]

Feral is better so if you did better with enhance… you’re probably just better at enhance

Checking 1800 is worth imo

[sharp meteor]

psure ur cheeseballin people withe enh

[copper fox]

You pushed passed 1800 tho

[sharp meteor]

and cant lay feral

one of the two probs both

[urban skiff]

got 1800 way way faster on feral

[copper fox]

Yea idk I stand by feral being one of the hardest specs to be good at

[urban skiff]

that's got to count for something too

[copper fox]

Why wouldn’t you keep playing that

[urban skiff]

I just stop at 1800

If i stop playing at 1800 I can imagine i'm a 2400 player who doesn't try. If I try and end up stuck at 1801 then I know i'm shit

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

My wife says that i have the type of ADHD where actively trying to succeed is itself a form of defeat.

[copper fox]

Honestly

I bet you could have gotten 2400 last season as feral

[urban skiff]

also why I don't play with DR cooldown trackers

[fierce elm]

Step up NERD

[urban skiff]

If I don't try, i can't fail

[copper fox]

2400 in shuffle is easily achievable just by doing max dsp

Dps

After 2400 you need to track things

[urban skiff]

If daytime playing shuffles wasn't toxic or if I could play after work without distractions I'd have a better time in shuffle

[copper fox]

Daytime shuffles are so weird

[urban skiff]

if I do daytime shuffle on warrior i get the weirdest teams

[copper fox]

I feel like no one knows how to play their characters or it’s a AWC player carrying

[fierce elm]

I gained most of my rating daytime

lmao

[urban skiff]

if I do daytime shuffles on my shaman i get the most top tuned sweaty tryhards playing only meta specs

[copper fox]

Afro is a freak

[urban skiff]

At approximately same MMR/rating

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[urban skiff]

guess who my shaman would face lol

[copper fox]

Day time is when the Russian boosters come out

[urban skiff]

is that what it is?

actually makes sense

[copper fox]

Yes I’m not kidding

lol

[urban skiff]

I'm gearing a second enh that I'm not going to touch shuffle on at all until it's ready and then I'm going to see if I hit 1800 faster than fucking 400+ shuffles

439 rounds. that's more than I played across all toons before this season, and all of df :S

[copper fox]

Enhance is just bad

[urban skiff]

I want to say it took less than 100 rounds last season to get 1800 and enh is better this season (minus the loss of ancestral guidance)

[slow solstice]

ag was the most illegal thing

[urban skiff]

yet spriest keeps it and they gave it to ret

oh and feral

[slow solstice]

wat

how does ret have ag

[sharp meteor]

[urban skiff]

their goal was to reduce button bloat so they removed a button that was off the GCD and frequently macroed into ascendance and made us cast healing spring more

[slow solstice]

bro

[sharp meteor]

i mean to be fair

sham has 2x the buttons of everything

and resto has 3x

needs pruned

[urban skiff]

the effect that splits healing out to everyone else when they get healed, it's sort of like that

[slow solstice]

macroing ag into ascendance was legit griefing last season in keys

like sure sending it together was mostly fine

but sending it as a healer cooldown at times

was so stupid

[urban skiff]

they could have baked the effect into earth elemental and reduced the % and all would be gucci

i have a difficult time calling earth elemental a defensive as it is. Despite it having a clearly defined effect on my survivability

[urban skiff]

meeeeh, I never macroed it into ascendance

ascendance is the time i'm the absolute safest. People either CC me or run from me

[spice hornet]

Oh no. Dinars.

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/suIQ1TIPC48

[spice hornet]

Is this where I buy some gallywix weps?

[urban skiff]

Honey wake up, the new Heavie of Mettle video is out

2 days ago

[fierce elm]

Hell yeah brothers

DINARS

[urban skiff]

aren't they withholding dinars still?

Also we aren't getting dragonflight dinars this time. Sounds like we're at risk of getting shadowlands dinars

Why is it called omnibar if it's icons?

[worldly oriole]

lol

is there really gonna be a legion remix?

what was the mop remix like? i didnt play it

[urban skiff]

it was great tbh

[worldly oriole]

whats the remix mean tho?

was it faster mounts and shit or what

quick leveling? start from 1 or

[fierce elm]

UNIQUE MOGs

UNIQUE MOUNTS

And fast as fuck leveling

[urban skiff]

absolutely no gear drops except remix-specific items that you upgrade with remix-specific currency

is blessing of spellwarding dispellable?

[fierce elm]

no

[urban skiff]

Freedom, protection, alter time, power infusion, mage barriers. What else is offensive dispel on sight?

[fierce elm]

bop

[urban skiff]

Nullifying shroud

[spice hornet]

Zercher can I live with you in Denmark and be happy

[urban skiff]

Sure

I have a yard

but I only have 1000 mbps internet wired and like 800 mbps wifi if that's ok?

[chilly pivot]

rly?

[fierce elm]

rly?

Yes, if you have mythic gear it's going to be better than PvP gear for some reason lmao

Crafted gear also gets +6 : )

maybe we see some changes who knows

[chilly pivot]

algari?

[fierce elm]

no

Crest crafted gear

[chilly pivot]

this is shit update

For us who only do pvp

[fierce elm]

🤷‍♀️

I guess we will see

The overlap between mythic raiders and m+ people and high rated PvP players is very low

Now, we are 3.5 weeks away from this

so maybe they realize this is dumb and increase the PvP scaling

I wouldn't bet on it, but we can hope

[chilly pivot]

it should scale to max 678 in pvp

[sharp meteor]

Pvpers worrying about stuff that doesn't matter again

[chilly pivot]

?

[sharp meteor]

?

[fierce elm]

Its a non-issue most likely

and something that PvPers will overreact too because the playerbase loves to cry about everything

instead of just being better at the game

[sharp meteor]

I wish pve gear was better but they just bump up pvp scaling

[violet fossil]

wtf lol

[urban skiff]

Odds are it works on pvp gear but only base level lol

[fierce elm]

sparks

aint no sparks in PvP crafted gear

[urban skiff]

You're my spark

They're going to update pvp gear ilvl when they remember pvp exists

100%

[rancid granite]

@tribal holly @slim saffron look at the friendly emoji reaction this could be an every day occurrence

[fierce elm]

Nerds

[chilly pivot]

berserk shout buggd?

[fierce elm]

can you like continue explaining

like what is bugged

Nobody has reported a bug with it

except that they fixed the bug that it had

[rancid granite]

is that u

[bright kraken]

I don't play shaman no

[boreal veldt]

arcanite ripper is such a good mog

[bright kraken]

Isn't arcanire ripper unobtainable?