pvp

[worldly oriole]

i healed cupid on my rdruid and the games went well tho

tried boomie dh last night on my dh

my wars still like 1400 3s

iwas on top on mugambala and they clashed me downstairs lol

[worldly oriole]

i needa achieve faker to get into heroic XD

i did that in legion

before i found a guild

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm I can finally live the dream of a ranged barbarian throwing heavy crossbows

[fierce elm]

IS THE PATCH OUT YEt

[urban skiff]

new BG3 patch out today with 12 new subclasses, if anyone still cares

[fierce elm]

OH IT IS

I cant play though

not until we get 4 together

[urban skiff]

HAHAHA

oh

You don't want to play with me 🙂

[fierce elm]

There was like 40 pages of patch notes

lmao

I promised I wouldn't play

without them at all

[urban skiff]

I'm the guy who solos the goblin camp head on with a level 1 wizard with maxed out strength

[urban skiff]

He needs the money to get big naturals

I think I have a good party idea though for a new playthrough

Character1: necromancer wizard 6, death domain cleric 6: Explode corpses, raise the dead
Character2: A giants barbarian throwing around corpses and piling people near one spot for big explosions

[fierce elm]

THANK GOD

[urban skiff]

speaking of huge patch notes:

[fierce elm]

THANK THE HEAVENS

[sharp meteor]

[urban skiff]

But really, I think I'm going to go with throwing heavy crossbows

[fierce elm]

Im gonna throw so many people

Then kick them

then throw them again

Or kick, then throw something at them

or beat a dude with ANOTHER dude

[urban skiff]

FYI: Kick uses unarmed attack mod so tavern brawler, items that adds unarmed damage,

[fierce elm]

Yeah I reckoned it used that

[sharp meteor]

bg3 such a crazy good game

[urban skiff]

absolute fact

still haven't beaten it because I keep starting over

[fierce elm]

neeerd

[urban skiff]

FYI: Kick allows you to move creatures with 24x your strength ability score (Not the modifier, actual score) where enlarged creatures can move 28x strength

supposedly the kick is fixed 24x and doesn't go up with enlarge effects :S

Man I want to play like a super toxic necromancer but I also want to play giants barb but I also want a straight up Eldritch Knight now that we finally have booming blade

[wheat jay]

@fierce elm do i go evil run karlach?

xD

[urban skiff]

What's better than evil karlach?

Evil Wyll

People know what you done when you share screenshots of regular Wyll in act2

@fierce elm Holy fuck that shove animation looks good

[fierce elm]

stop I can only get so hard

[urban skiff]

booming blade animation looks great as well

Help me decide: Death domain cleric full + a necromancer wizard full vs a death domain 6/necromancer 6

[fierce elm]

uhm giant 12

[urban skiff]

I guess it depends on what happens to bursting sinew corpses, if they can still be raised as skeletons it would be fine but I seriously risk running out of corpses if not

boooooooo

😦

slightly upset that death domain doesn't get heavy armor

[hasty pulsar]

why was I just dead to a ret paladin via dots......? are they a dot spec now? what in the world is going on here?

some shit called 'dawnlight' wtf is that garbage?

[fierce elm]

lmao

[hasty pulsar]

shit was ticking for 400k per tick

[fierce elm]

Yes

[scenic oracle]

[hasty pulsar]

wat in the world

wtf is that

[fierce elm]

Let Ret have something

[hasty pulsar]

they kiting me all over the place

and dotting me up

[fierce elm]

when they get Avenging wrath they can apply two dawnlights

[hasty pulsar]

what in the world

[fierce elm]

give them something

one thing

[hasty pulsar]

its like i was fighting a boomkin

or some shit

wtf is going on here

[fierce elm]

been that way for a bit brotehr

[hasty pulsar]

no

[fierce elm]

yes

Templar has never been meta this season

[hasty pulsar]

I just came back to pvp

oh

this season yea

[fierce elm]

Templar was only meta last season due to bug changes

[hasty pulsar]

wasnt like this last season

[frank knoll]

Templar is the coolest looking

[fierce elm]

And Herald was meta for like the first 4-5 weeks lmao

[hasty pulsar]

i see

so their hero spec switched

[fierce elm]

Yeah

[hasty pulsar]

ok now i understand

[fierce elm]

Templar sucks

[hasty pulsar]

what in the world..

[frank knoll]

Big loony toons hammer dropping on people

[hasty pulsar]

what a mess

[fierce elm]

you wanna see something cool

[hasty pulsar]

wat in the world

these rets just kiting all day and night now

they dont even come into melee

what a mess

[green wharf]

but tis fine

cause they arent viable in pvp

or so i heard

[fierce elm]

Ret is strugglebussing

outside of Blitz

[green wharf]

sure

[fierce elm]

Or rather

[hasty pulsar]

Yeah to be fair I dont know the entire situation I just find it wild they are like a boomkin just kiting all over lmao

[fierce elm]

they are a solid mid-tier

[frank knoll]

You see the Rextroy Prot pal bug

[fierce elm]

however this buff tomorrow might change that

[frank knoll]

Where you get infinite Queen bubbles in PVP

[green wharf]

ret is winning in rank over frost dk in all pvp brackets except x2

[fierce elm]

Yeah

Because frost DK sucks lmao

[frank knoll]

Frost DK is a one trick pony

Unholy is low key nasty again

[green wharf]

REt win over enhc too, except in blitz

half-half with unholy

[urban skiff]

I feel like rets has been bunny hopping around me for a while now

At least until they find out I hit harder just chain casting lightning bolts

Then they go in closer for a better spanking

[bright kraken]

what are you supposed to do against double warlock

[fierce elm]

you hit them

and win by killing

[sharp meteor]

hmm what specs comp map

cos could be hit nearest

or just train destro/aff

[fierce elm]

what are you supposed to do against ENEMY SPECS

answer me rn

[elfin surge]

just do damage man

[rancid granite]

its incredibly annoying when they just BoF and have mega ms / horse up kiting you lol

[urban skiff]

all the more reason to play enhancement

the more time they run, the more of your globals are spent purging

[urban skiff]

double the targets to hit, but maybe consider bitter immunity and/or rally cry cd to dispel curses?

[rancid granite]

dont give them time to bubble

best kills ever

[bright kraken]

Destro Aff BM on tigers peak, Destro Aff ele on maldraxxus

[fierce elm]

kek

[bright kraken]

What

[rancid granite]

we peak arms players now

it is complete

i can catalyst the boots in 2 weeks

[fierce elm]

what the hell

[worldly oriole]

what's cataclyst boots do

[fierce elm]

It gets him into college

[rancid granite]

think its haste/mast

[worldly oriole]

what about versatility

[fierce elm]

Aatos is our guinea pig

He does the things nobody else wants to try

[rancid granite]

its like 16/28/25/25 in pvp combat

[urban skiff]

Definitely crit

[worldly oriole]

I disconnected 2 games in a row on rdru in shuffle this morning

1470cr now ya Hate to see it

[fierce elm]

lmao

[copper fox]

Tony good excuse for being stuck at 1400

[scenic oracle]

my favourite redditor

[rancid granite]

colossus stats in pvp

op

[frank knoll]

Enhance wins on the fun factor
Unholy wins on the transmog factor

[sand sundial]

ret in blitz is goated

fuck herald build tho

[green wharf]

heh

argubly ret is more well designed, thus more fun

[spice hornet]

Yeah Tony good excuse for sure

Those DCs keeping you at 1400

Nothing you coulda done differently

[sharp meteor]

i luv toni

[copper fox]

Me too

[worldly oriole]

lol

I was on the climb

[scenic oracle]

#RoadTo1500

[worldly oriole]

just hit a 5-1 but I only gained like 35 or 55 for it. healers gain less I think

[fierce elm]

LMAO

Cooked MMR

[worldly oriole]

I need to que more

but solo is pointless you only get tabard for 2.4

I need a get new net I think my Hotspot is shit

[scenic oracle]

Whats it like to be held back by your isp

[worldly oriole]

lmfao !!

[copper fox]

Man went to college for bfa glad esports but lives on a hotspot

Wild

[frank knoll]

I think ret is a snooze fest
Personal preference

[rancid granite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAVjcjk5lBI @urban skiff

[urban skiff]

why does it feel like they're putting enh shamans further and further down that list?

[rancid granite]

LOL

every buff to another class is a nerf to enh

[vivid pumice]

Pretty sure Dan plays enh

Classic case of "every spec is good but mine"

[spice hornet]

sigh this garbage is back again

[inner sigil]

ret is fucking disgusting

its bleeds is doing more than feral druid now

which is valid honestly

they got no hard hitters

[exotic forge]

Ret bleeds?

lol wot

[inner sigil]

yeah

dawnlight

suns avatar

etc

both

[rancid granite]

that whole spec is so insanely boring though

ret is awesome to play when templar is a thing

[jovial torrent]

holy was more fun/bursty tbh, when u pop the light beam show and the season thing that does dmg based on healing done

[rancid granite]

(i use the term awesome loosely)

[jovial torrent]

u could do some serious burst at the start of a match

[worldly oriole]

need the new xp bonuses to come out

leveling zandalari pal

etc

[wheat jay]

Yo aatos

Have you tried shadopan?

[urban skiff]

called it twice

[spice hornet]

wher eis reapmon

[urban skiff]

playing BG3

[rancid granite]

not yet but i have the build ready

still not sure what im supposed to play around but ill figure it out in battle

im not even sure what conduit plays around still either lmao i just mashed kicks to 1800

[wheat jay]

Same shit lol

[rancid granite]

i think ill q a blitz in a few and mess around with it

[wheat jay]

Gonna suck in blitz

Its more of a ST uptime reliant build

[rancid granite]

love monk but having 3 chars is hard to handle

everyone needs a pocket pick back up to play but 3 is a handfull

[wheat jay]

Pick one per season

Enjoy it

Or dont

If you do, play, if yiu dont, touch grass

[rancid granite]

pocket pick is mandatory

flurry strikes is amazing to proc

[worldly oriole]

gearing is piss easy

i have like 4 or 5 up to date toons

[fickle forge]

@boreal veldt

[wheat jay]

But it does 0 dmg 😦

Makes brain go brrrr tho

[rancid granite]

nostalgic as hell

played a shit ton of street fighter and tekken as a kid, watched dbz

now i can play the same character

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzS96auqau0 throw back to this classic just cause its so hype

[jovial torrent]

i bought tekken 8 on the bandai sale, havent got around to installing it and playing it

also bought ff16 at the same time

[rancid granite]

i really need to get around to ff16

[jovial torrent]

same, love ff14 story and ff16 is directed by yoshi so should be good i hope

[rancid granite]

yeah it has to be lol

[jovial torrent]

i kind of dont wana jump into tekken 8 till i get one of these

wnaa just start right rather than learning one thing then having to relearn

[rancid granite]

those are so intimidating it seems like a whole process

no different than getting into wow pvp

i was never an arcade kid so ill stick to a controller

i dont even have a proper dpad controller these days 😭

[jovial torrent]

i bought one to play fighterz but its with a stick, which is kind of awkard, it feels like really good one way like playing left side, but doing the reverse moves on right side feels odd. but hitbox i think will feel more natural to me like keyboard

i wish fighterz wasnt a tag fighter, leaning 1 char is hard enough let alone knowing 3 chars + tag combos

[rancid granite]

never heard of it but i long retired to smash bros so

though the league of legends fighter looks kinda fun

[jovial torrent]

its the dragon ball z fighting game by the ppl who made guilty gear

il probs play the league game since its guna be f2p, just a shame its another tag fighter

atleast its only 2 person tag tho i think instead of 3

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sQRBMxl-Leg

[rancid granite]

lmao hype

[jovial torrent]

every time his intro plays they scream along, i just wish i got into fighting games properly, feels like everyone has thousands of hours in the practice tool , i wanted to learn fighterz but learning 3 chars at the same time was too much

[frank knoll]

I’m kinda at that point
I used to play like 5 classes around 1800-2k but never got really good at one thing or had a “main”

But now I’m just focusing on one this season

[jovial torrent]

yeh, hard to learn the extra fundamentals when you are watching your different rotations all the time

work on positioning , tracking dr, and watching enemy cd's

[rancid granite]

the pocketpick is to help take a breather and give a different perspective it serves to enhance the main its science

[jovial torrent]

just got MM to 1800 today and it felt so rough

2.3 second cast aimed shots might aswell be 6 seconds

with all the micro cc and ppl dashing behind pillars

[exotic forge]

I've seen some Arms warriors play with brutal finish; compared to more bs damage, I don't know which is more viable

More pressure on the entire team or higher chances to kill your target?

[spice hornet]

Wait people are playing arms?

[copper fox]

Didn’t they remove arms at the start of tww

[spice hornet]

DF basically when they decided it needs to be Walmart feral Druid

Had one small period in s1 where skullsitter could dome someone but then it was nerfed and only UH was allowed to have something like that (apoc)

Really awesome

[buoyant wagon]

So Arms is sux now ?

[sharp meteor]

Arms is alright-good.

[ebon steeple]

Arms is def playable

[exotic forge]

Never forget Warbringer

[spice hornet]

They gutted warbringer because of Mud

Killing 1400 rated bots with it

[vivid pumice]

dude frost mage is actually fucking terrible now

i have never ever gone 0/6 in a lobby before tonight

[urban skiff]

lol

[urban skiff]

arms is way easier to play than fury

[frosty herald]

i feel like there are more buttons to click as arms..? might have changed though

[scenic oracle]

more buttons =/= harder

[frosty herald]

i like few buttons 🙂

[frank knoll]

Did they nerf it again?

[wheat jay]

Its literally the same

Bt rb rampage

Slam op ms

Defensives are utility are harder to utilize well on arms

Done

Well.not anymore with the utility

So, its basically the same shit

In every possible way

All the way down to big cds

[urban skiff]

I was saying this throughout DF when people complained about how braindead fury is and how hardcore and super smart you have to be to play arms

people disagreed, i adjusted

Now we're back to arms is dumb fury is sm0rt

[wheat jay]

Cuz in df arms was harder

Before too

This expansion its equal

And fury always was the most zug zug zero brain full spam rotation melee in pvp

[urban skiff]

Same number of buttons, always has been

Annie/OF fury even added buttons with cooldowns so not spammable and people said it was more stupid than regular fury somehow.

[wheat jay]

Utility

And things like tier set

Shadowlands tier set for fury was crazy strong and made the spec unkiteable

Rotation is not the thing that makes spec hard

If it was monk and dh would be the hardest specs to play in the game

And theyre not

[fierce elm]

True people make fun of both specs

[wheat jay]

That too lol

[fierce elm]

Its literally the same ooga booga spec

Also someone entertain me while I am at the mechanica

Start some early drama

[wheat jay]

No

Go suck a dick

[high star]

yall ever tried any of this MM hunter crack

just got a SS lobby 2 mages and ele sham, easiest 6-0 of my life

[stuck mulch]

ree my unholy ofc i get signet

[lavish quest]

Fury requires the big brain

5head plays

[visual river]

Do fury warriors receive one or both 2handers free when you hit 1600?

[urban skiff]

Tbh feral and enh are stupidly easy

[fierce elm]

its not 1600

its 2500 conquest

You get two tokens, weapon cost 1 token each

[visual river]

thats awesome

[exotic forge]

Amorphous relic pog

[wheat jay]

Every spec is easy when it comes to doing damage

[rancid granite]

1600 is free catalyst charge

[visual river]

ah yes

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff GF said no to a new car, said I can get it once I have worked for a year smh

[rancid granite]

do you call her mom on accident ever?

[fierce elm]

Never accidentally : )

stupid girlfriends

tryna plan for stupid future

[stuck mulch]

yeah got all trinket vault, sadthing is that even signet isnt good for me due to the cd

[wheat jay]

Reject gf embrace new wheels

[fierce elm]

CAN THEY BE DONE WITH MY CAR

[urban skiff]

Everything is easy, i'm just bad

[urban skiff]

What's wrong with afro jr?

[fierce elm]

The horn wasnt working lmao

Because we got the SPECIAL STEERING WHEEL

I swear its a single wire being wrong

100%

I wonder what car sales people do all day

[urban skiff]

having worked at a dealership when I was a mechanic: They do literally nothing but laugh at people and then fill out forms and pretend they're the ones who made a sale and the customer didn't already show up knowing exactly what they wanted

The only thing car sales people sell is financing

[lavish quest]

Try to desperately sell you cars

[urban skiff]

Cars sell themselves

[lavish quest]

And be on their phones when no one is there

[urban skiff]

Tbh what they do best is just strut

Strut is the perfect word for what they do

[fierce elm]

figured

[worldly oriole]

is mountain thane viable for 3s for fury

[urban skiff]

Don't think of yourself as playing a thane or slayer fury

think or thane and slayer as talent points you switch around

[sharp meteor]

yuh

[worldly oriole]

HELL YA i was owning kids in the 2s bracket with it

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff This gym was advertised as ”heavy lifter” friendly

why are there like 14 blue plates in total

and no yellow plates

like 6 red plates

[urban skiff]

Why do dumbbells stop at 46kg

[fierce elm]

50kg here lmao

Which is better than my old gym that stopped at 45

[urban skiff]

Probably same as denmark, antidoping agency forcing gyms to not get more than 45 kg dumbbells because it encouraged PED use lol.

[fierce elm]

the fuck

I mean do they realize people use them to row

Like 50kg dbs arent like at the extreme end of that lmao

[urban skiff]

Sure, weak people lol

My old old gym used to have up to 70kgs but they hid them in the back

[fierce elm]

Yeah same wirh the basement gym I was at

now to be fair

about 60% of that were heavy juicers lmao

Other than that its a great gym

[worldly oriole]

kids in my gym r juicing

[wheat jay]

so is afro

[fierce elm]

wtf im not

[worldly oriole]

they dont train correctly tho lol

they do a set of like 10 with 2 plates on the squat. then do a set with 3 plates for like 3 reps haha then call it

[copper fox]

And you train correctly?

[worldly oriole]

train better than these guys who are slamming gear

[copper fox]

Are they slamming gear or are they just bigger and stronger than you

[worldly oriole]

they walk around talking about gear all the time

one kid just started npp or something and they talk about injecting

[fierce elm]

Probably nothing wrong with this

[worldly oriole]

lol they do like one set

[fierce elm]

Yeah aint nothing wrong with that

[copper fox]

If they’re growing on 1 set I don’t see the issue.

There’s days I go in and just work up to a top set and call it

[worldly oriole]

ye its none of my bus

bis

and ye its hard to be intense all the time

with lots of volume

[copper fox]

That NPP will make that kid recover like a freak tho good for him

[fierce elm]

volume aint the be all end all

volume doesnt mean x reps and sets eithet

[worldly oriole]

these guys deff just wing it

[fierce elm]

probs lmao

I do that too

[copper fox]

I miss winging it

Ngl

More fun

Slower progress but more fun

[rancid granite]

people love to overcomplicate it

[copper fox]

Yes

All the time

[rancid granite]

'how do i get jacked without putting in the effort...'

[sharp meteor]

ez have a height that starts with 5

[worldly oriole]

the framecels

LMAO !!

[fierce elm]

Its so much more fun

as soon as I get into a rut, I just wing it for a bit

always gets the spark back

I dont get prople who can run their serious routine everyday for years

Loosen up a bit, a month or two of fucking about aint gonna change much

[copper fox]

Especially if you’re not competing

Then who gives a shit lol

I compete and I still go off program for a week or 2 here and there otherwise I’d be bored out of my mind

[fierce elm]

Yeah even then

Or just program around you fucking about

Jim Wendler still says it best by letting people chose their 50-100 reps by body part

[copper fox]

[fierce elm]

Gonna break into the tism of mine and go super serious next week though

Kinda dreading it but also looking forward to it

[copper fox]

I’m getting back on next week also

I’m competing in October and trying to qualify for the Arnold classic in 2026 so I gotta buckle down

[fierce elm]

I took the moving+school week+easter as a break from everything lmao

[fierce elm]

Yeah then its a sick time to lock in

I wanna do our District bench next Jan

But I also wanna open with a 180kg bench because I am autistic and thats the number chosen

Do one lift, never return

[copper fox]

That’s literally my planned opener also lmfao

[fierce elm]

(I am probs opening with 165 if everything goes according to plan)

And this is like the last time I can fully focus on this before I become an actual electrician lmao

[copper fox]

180-200-210 if all goes according to plan this prep

[fierce elm]

Plan is to end either at 180 or 185

just so I can have it written down and documented that I have benched 4pl8s

[copper fox]

Gotta be 185 because 180 is still less than 400lbs

[fierce elm]

Exactly

So I can truly tell people when I get old as fuck that I used to bench 4pl8s back in the day

[copper fox]

Exactly

That’s the only reason I do this

So that when I’m a back in my day guy

The numbers are high

[fierce elm]

EXACTLY lmao

[copper fox]

Lmfao

[fierce elm]

These mofos are gonna get boomerd

[copper fox]

I can’t wait

[fierce elm]

also because I at least wanna beat my future kid in lifting before he turns 18-20

[copper fox]

Yes

All mandatory things

[fierce elm]

So he can then take the throne from me and live in the BITTERSWEET FEELING of his old man becoming old

[copper fox]

By then, in the US RFK Jr. will have all meats injected with tren so I have no shot against my kid

[fierce elm]

lmao

[rancid granite]

lmao

[fierce elm]

Its joever

[copper fox]

So over

[fierce elm]

got test in the water supply

[copper fox]

These kids will be benching 405 by 8

[fierce elm]

lmao

Like those russian jacked kids

that pop up every year

[copper fox]

Yea there’s always 1

[fierce elm]

Like 6 year olds with washboard abs and striations lmao

[copper fox]

Yea where the fk they making those kids

[fierce elm]

like holy fuck dawg relax

[fierce elm]

Russia mainly

and like less substance controlled countries I assume

[copper fox]

The gymnast kids don’t fk around

[worldly oriole]

didnt the parents get outted on television or in trouble

saw a mini documentary about that kid pretty sure

[fierce elm]

I mean its generally somewhat abusive

The gymnast kids are just normal kids that likr gymnastics

but even that can be abusive

its a weird like to walk

You probs want kids to be into something and not force them

[rancid granite]

take away here is if you force them, go all the way, make them the king of pop

[copper fox]

Forced kids usually end up being drug addicts anyway lol

[green wharf]

i think this kind of stuff is rly bad for the kids, cuz it disrupt their growth

[fierce elm]

Lifting?

Weights?

That has zero scientific evidence to support that it stunts growth

[green wharf]

no, there is a bunch of health issues

[fierce elm]

but rather promotes bodily movements and awareness

When done to the not extreme

The child there is clearly on the extreme side

[green wharf]

im talking about the extreme

[fierce elm]

I mean yeah

Its also bad because the kid clearly isn't being a kid lmao

[green wharf]

obviouslly normal stuff is fine

[scenic oracle]

priests are something else

50% healing reduc and from 1% to full in one global

kek

[dim cedar]

hey everyone i'm new here and trying to get better as a fury warrior pvp player. I've played wow for a while but I'm brand new to trying to get good at pvp. i've been copying murlok for gear and talents but I have no idea how to get better at my ability rotation - any advice for a good resource / strategy?

[fickle forge]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/fury-warrior-pvp-rotation-and-playstyle

[rancid granite]

https://www.youtube.com/@BajheeraWoW

[copper fox]

Press rampage as much as you can

[fickle forge]

@urban skiff This is how stronger your people are mentally

Go 0-5 and then unequip all gear for the last round

[urban skiff]

I have no idea what that's like

[rancid granite]

bruh why am i being griefed by a yet another healer

[urban skiff]

It's always great when a healer loses his shit because you're doing too well the first 3 rounds against him

It's also why i sometimes mess up sub rogue stun DRs if i end up grouped with one for the first round.

[rancid granite]

i chased an enemy behind a pillar so he threw the next 2 rounds :'( OR SO HE SAID

https://tenor.com/view/deskflip-adventure-time-angry-irritated-frustrated-gif-6555900716915588715

bruh both healers yelled at me and refused to heal me

is that some weird win trade thing

https://tenor.com/view/knife-cat-cat-knife-cat-knife-cat-angry-gif-9404759922388476738

[elfin surge]

[sharp meteor]

[fickle forge]

Shuffle life

[rancid granite]

one healer is one thing but both in the same match

just chose me to sacrifice or some shit

[worldly oriole]

dragonriding saved wow

iim not cappin.

[warm pollen]

i dont get rating... ive had a positive winrate and im only getting 20-30 rating per win and all week ive not had games with worse outcome than 3-3 and now ive had first game with only 2 wins and 4 losses and ive lost almost 60 rating... why?

[fierce elm]

It comes down to MMR entirely

[warm pollen]

its stupid and feels unfair

[fierce elm]

A positive winrate doesnt say much because you can go like 18-0 the first 3 shuffle games

then go 0-14

and still be positive

[lavish quest]

Tony gonna do esports dragonriding now

[fierce elm]

Its the way every competitive game works

Its all based around MMR

Either visible or invisible

[warm pollen]

idk about that, i played lots of competitive games and never lost 2x from 1 loss than i do from a win

[lavish quest]

You're winning more games when you're favored and losing more when you're not favored

You need to win more when you're not favored

[fierce elm]

because your MMR has never been cooked

[warm pollen]

cooked?

[fierce elm]

Look at your last like 4-5 games

and see your winrate inthat

[warm pollen]

my last 4-5 games were great, only this last game was 2-4

[fierce elm]

What does great mean

[warm pollen]

and all becaus a WW monk didnt let me move the entire game

[warm pollen]

at least 4 wins

[fierce elm]

Either way, its MMR based

so just gotta keep queueing

[warm pollen]

arena isnt fun honestly, but at least it doesnt feel as RNG as blitz is. im just playing for the eel rn

only 40% to go

[worldly oriole]

wow needs to make a dragonriding cup

xd

drc on twitch

[fierce elm]

entirely fair take

[rancid granite]

ArEenA iSnT FuN hOneStLy

[fierce elm]

I cant blame somebody for not thinkin it's fun lmao

I think Arena is in a mad good spot outside of player participation

[worldly oriole]

its more fun when you win

[rancid granite]

its the kind of talk you should put in a journal not pvp section in discord

but i just like teasing the debbie downers

[worldly oriole]

only cupcakes use diarys

[rancid granite]

i journal every day changed my life

dont call it a diary :(

[worldly oriole]

lol

🧁

[sharp meteor]

Win more.

[sharp meteor]

Because you're negative and it's putting you into smaller games expecting you to win.

If you don't you crater harder.

Inversely when you're winning a lot you fly up insanely hard.

[warm pollen]

im negative?

[sharp meteor]

In recent games, yuh.

[warm pollen]

based on what are you saying this?

[sharp meteor]

You getting reduced pointos.

[warm pollen]

but ive been winning all games today until this one

[fierce elm]

4-2 is smol winning

its not like 'winning winning'

[warm pollen]

but with that logic

2-4 is smol losing

[fierce elm]

Yeah, but it doesn't work like that lmao

also tbf 2-4 is small losingcompared to 1-5 and 0-6

[rancid granite]

winning is winning what more do you want

[fierce elm]

but in essence, going 4-2 is going to give you less MMR than going 5-1 or 6-0

Just by how the system works

[warm pollen]

well yeah, i dont mind losing rating but losing almost 60 points from a 2-4 after going 3-5 wins all day and yesterday and getting 20~ rating each feels like shit

[fierce elm]

Yes, it absolutely does

and it comes down to just winning more

[sharp meteor]

shuff is weird cos its all automatic

[kind sentinel]

If you went 2-4 and lost 60 points it means the MMR of the lobby you were in was really low compared to where you were

[sharp meteor]

so u just

press q

[fierce elm]

MMR is a very cruel mistress

This is not even accounting for lobby MMR yeah

[kind sentinel]

Hit q for sure

[fierce elm]

which is a whole nother can of worms

[rancid granite]

this just in, breaking news: losing sucks

[warm pollen]

its not that losing sucks

if i lost the rating id expected to lose i wouldnt say anything

losing 3x rating from a loss than you get from a win just makes you not want to queue lmao

[rancid granite]

if you win you climb if you lose you drop

welcome to pvp my guy

[warm pollen]

yes but you should be climbing as long as you have a positive winrate

any positive winrate

[fierce elm]

That also isn't entirely true

[warm pollen]

id hope not

i mean

[fierce elm]

Because once more, you can go 18-0 in the first 3 games

[warm pollen]

id hope i dont have to win 3 games to make up for 1 loss :/

[fierce elm]

but then go 0-18 in the other 3 games

You mostly don't

The MMR acts both in favor and not in favor

[warm pollen]

well anyway back to the queue sorry for being a bummer :P

[fierce elm]

it do be like that sometimes brother

[rancid granite]

healers going hard today

[copper fox]

hjoply hsity

[rancid granite]

thats 100% pure rage typing

[copper fox]

You’re not a bummer dude you just gotta win more

Press rampage more

[worldly oriole]

na solo shuffle is completely tilting

[rancid granite]

this is why i keep saying ignore the #s

[copper fox]

ss isn’t tilting when you’re a fury warrior

[rancid granite]

just focus on winning and improving and youll get to where you want to go regardless of anything, and without all the extra added useless stress

[copper fox]

If you play the negative spec (arms) maybe I can see it because you need 70% damp to win

[worldly oriole]

i got 2.1 in less rounds than i have played on fury .........

[fierce elm]

DID I HEAR ARMS SLANDER

[worldly oriole]

on ww

[copper fox]

Tony you’re pretty bad at warrior ngl

Like

Horrendous

[fierce elm]

tonypajams is a multi r1

hold your tongue

[worldly oriole]

i was glad before it was cool

[fierce elm]

yeah

he got into COLLEGE by being GLADIATOR RANK

[worldly oriole]

ww has more buttons than war lol

[fierce elm]

Its just button pad

[copper fox]

Then how are you negative win loss on fury

I can teach you because it’s embarrassing me

Also bfa isn’t before it was cool brother

Bfa is like yesterdays glad

[copper fox]

Rank lmfao

[worldly oriole]

give me a real threes team for fury

bet i can do well

i havent found games on him yet

[copper fox]

Idk dude you’re at 44% win rate at 1400 in real 3s

You should be at 100% with any comp

At 1400

[worldly oriole]

quing with random ppl for my conquest?

[copper fox]

Yes

[worldly oriole]

i dont even remember who i qued with

[rancid granite]

[copper fox]

Any time anyone comes in here saying they didn’t do well in a game we should require logs of how many rampages were pressed in said game

[worldly oriole]

ye you dont even gotta land mana burn on war

xD

[copper fox]

Exactly

[fierce elm]

kek

[jovial torrent]

track uptime %

[fierce elm]

But I am an arms warrior

I don't hit rampage

[worldly oriole]

im gearing unholy right now guise

[warm pollen]

ok i made my points back

[jovial torrent]

il get to dk soon, wana do priest/mage first, also need to set up a char for gold farming

[urban skiff]

Worgen druid for herb

[jovial torrent]

why worgen?, herb or do u take mining too, cus im guna level a boomy to try

[copper fox]

Dude stop making new characters it’s making you worse at the game

No fun allowed

Fun only comes in the form of winning

Any other opinion is fake

[worldly oriole]

im doin well on dh when i play him

just no teammates

[jovial torrent]

cant wait to get to mage, but im guna do priest first and trade those 50 conquest crates over, elite s1 + s2 looks pretty neat

[fierce elm]

NERD

[copper fox]

Mage players are the worst

[worldly oriole]

yur lookin sexi partner. and iim not cappin

[jovial torrent]

also wtf were they thinking with the season 2 boots

[fierce elm]

Someone motivate me to play SS

[spice hornet]

@warm pollen

[fierce elm]

I have dropped 12 spots what the hell

[warm pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/gnomed-gnome-youve-been-gnomed-gif-16782193

[jovial torrent]

damn u , i want that set so bad

[warm pollen]

i wouldnt play gnome if they had a 20% dmg boost racial

[copper fox]

What’re you at rn

[jovial torrent]

honestly if u could earn a old season elite set for every x games played above 1800 as a healer id have like 10k games played this season

[fierce elm]

47

lmao

[copper fox]

Dude wtf

[fierce elm]

I dropped mad spots

[spice hornet]

if ur not playin gnome i think u might be cooke

[fierce elm]

I havent played SS man

[warm pollen]

i am cooke

[copper fox]

Get back to 35 immediately

[fierce elm]

Been tryna get some 3s going

[copper fox]

Fakest news around

Gnome propaganda

[fierce elm]

I am probs a 4-2 away from 35 again

[spice hornet]

even Mud is gnome

thats how u know....

[copper fox]

Mud is a 2s gamer and not even top 10 2s so what does that say

[fierce elm]

But there are nobody playing

Mud is a 2s gamer and bullied by his twitch chat

[copper fox]

If you were NA I’d play but you’re on the other side rip

[spice hornet]

boosting e-girls in 2s all day will do that to ya

[fierce elm]

lmfao

[copper fox]

Not good dude

He should be a Chad high mountain maybe the egirls would actually do more than use him for rating then

Instead the just walk all over him as a gnome

Uses his racial and gets instantly slowed or rooted again 😫

[rancid granite]

all this fury talk meth

time for you to make an arms warrior

show us what you can do

[fierce elm]

what them lips do

[copper fox]

I made one and while I was gearing it I changed my mind

I enjoy killing things before 50% damp

[fierce elm]

You sit in queue more than me

because my games last longer

smh

[copper fox]

Lmfao

True

[fierce elm]

we stay WINNING

AWC Open bracket is looking like a fucking bloodbath

[copper fox]

I love when the usual AWC teams are just shitting on the new sign ups

It’s funny

[fierce elm]

Swapxy is out

Echo was dropping games

to WMPala

[copper fox]

Damn

wtf

All I wanna see on the eu side is lontar dominate

[fierce elm]

Yeah they through

into top 8 or w.,e

[copper fox]

Didn’t this boomy corkly win a blizzcon

Or am I mistaken

[fierce elm]

🤷‍♀️

idk

OH wait they arent

[worldly oriole]

is bliss getting ddosed cus im laggin guise

srs

[copper fox]

No Tony

You’re losing because you’re not pressing buttons properly it’s not lag

[worldly oriole]

not even quing with this ms.....

[fierce elm]

lmao

Home latency is your current rating

[copper fox]

That’s why you are hardstuck 1400 you’re playing on a bar of soap

LMFAO true

That home MS is very telling

[worldly oriole]

i gotta get off the hotspot

and get some real net

[fierce elm]

bro what lmao

[worldly oriole]

im using an att hotspot

its like a box they give you

and you get wifi off it

its weird

[fierce elm]

bro w h a t

why

lmao

Its 2025 brother

[worldly oriole]

ya this is from years ago

[copper fox]

You’re NA just use skylink or whatever the fk Elon musks internet is called

You can play wow in a hole in the desert

Which is where I assume you are based on using a hot spot in 2025

[fierce elm]

In the middle of Nevada's desert

[copper fox]

✅

[verbal tangle]

It's 2025 you can straight up live in a third-world shithole and have good internet

[copper fox]

Tony is a unique specimen

Not only is he on a hot spot but his keyboard has letters and symbols placed differently

Can’t make out half the stuff he types

[worldly oriole]

actually dropped bucks on a good keyboard

awhile back

[jovial torrent]

im actually sick to death of pvp gear, i just wana grind healer games but its miserable auto losing at 2k mmr cus my heals do like half of what the enemies does

[spice hornet]

It takes like 4 hours to get geared

[jovial torrent]

ive already done the crate farm on multiple chars, i just wana chill q solo shuffle on healer

[rancid granite]

gotta lead with healer and farm a shit ton medal of conquest

[jovial torrent]

think im guna just logoff wow till the 11.5 and level some ally alts to chest farm

[frank knoll]

What egirls do PvP
It’s all 30 + year old dudes

[rancid granite]

can you blame them for keeping it on the downlow

[jovial torrent]

i dont think ive ever been in a guild with less than 5 women

[sharp meteor]

[frank knoll]

I only do all male guilds 💪

[copper fox]

I’m an egirl

Where’s my mud

[fierce elm]

no you aint

old man

boomer ass

[copper fox]

🐀

[spice hornet]

Knee day tonight @worldly oriole

[jovial torrent]

man i dunno what happened, healing just suddenly feels awful

even in my good geared monk ppl just die in a split second

[copper fox]

Everyone needs to stop playing more than 2 classes

[fierce elm]

Im juggling 80 classes

[copper fox]

I swear you’ll enjoy the game more because you’ll be better

And when you’re better it doesn’t matter what class you’re on

[jovial torrent]

kind of, but some classes are very different and weird

[copper fox]

That’s why you only play 2 so you generate permanent muscle memory

[jovial torrent]

like nothing translates going from warrior to shadow priest, their dmg rotations and profiles are so weirdly different

[copper fox]

Translation is irrelevant if it’s all you play

[fierce elm]

Its all buttons

[jovial torrent]

yeh, if u wana actually get better stick to one char

[copper fox]

1 or 2 yea

[jovial torrent]

only problem then is u hit a certain rating on ur main and get stuck in q simulator

[copper fox]

2 is viable unless single digit Iq

Doesn’t matter just keep
Pressing q

This game is a Q simulator

Idk what you mean

[jovial torrent]

i wonder how much it would fuck up queue if u could say , queue for arena, do a m+ dungeon or somthing, but while ur in instance ur pvp q cannot proc and waste it

[copper fox]

If you get better you’ll do better and you’ll gain rating

[worldly oriole]

lol idk about this game anymore

[copper fox]

Tony you’re washed bro give it up

[jovial torrent]

biggest struggle is theres not really alot u can do in a 10 min q other than gather

[copper fox]

I do wpvp in undermine it’s fun af

[worldly oriole]

the game is good on paper

needs bigger player base

[copper fox]

????

Are you running into player base problems

[worldly oriole]

it's hard to find partners to push with past glad atleast for me

[copper fox]

Brother find partners for 1800 first then worry about glad

[worldly oriole]

right now I gotta worry about teammates for glad

lol I'm multi 1800. just in one season btw

[copper fox]

What

[worldly oriole]

the second part is a joke

1800 is cake

[copper fox]

So get it in 3s

[worldly oriole]

I have it on like 3 guys rn

[copper fox]

Join hostile takeover

I’ll inv you later

We actually have like 100+ active glad+ people

Plus then I can shit on you in gchat and disc

[worldly oriole]

but my guild <Korea gladiator>

[fierce elm]

lmao

[copper fox]

That guild is for bums

[worldly oriole]

lol the guild is full of Koreans I can't understand gchat

I'll join your guild

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-gif-27466237

[rancid granite]

THIS IS WHAT I KEEP SAYING

[frank knoll]

Join <RUINOUS> best PvP guild

[frank knoll]

Yeah I’m 1 class pilled now and I’m 60% better at the game

[urban skiff]

Need someone to tell me

do I gear up my aug and make people miserable yes or no

[fierce elm]

yes

[verbal tangle]

Aug

You piece of shit lol

No balls

[rancid granite]

you need the 2nd though and youll be 80% better

[urban skiff]

1 ball

Also i just really like to annoy people

[ruby temple]

I keep seeing other furys in defensive stance like the whole arena. is this the new tech or something?

[copper fox]

No they’re bad

[urban skiff]

Dunno what they do, but I occasionally run death wish + dstance to get +5% damage at all times

And then when I pop out of dstance during cooldowns they taking a frickton of dam

but the price is that i'm an idiot so

[verbal tangle]

The real strat is to be in a bgb with a Priest and use DW and PI

[sharp meteor]

thats usually bad

[verbal tangle]

They can't kill you when you pop the swifty and kill the entire fucking team

[sharp meteor]

ya i love blitz placers on alt warrs with pocket healer

just get like 20-30 kills

[copper fox]

Just got a heroic eye of kezan from
Vault

I am jacked af

On my lock

[urban skiff]

well guess what

wife is my pocket pee eye

I'm ready to entertain the idea that blitz has bots

Kid woke up just as we had gotten inside a blitz, so she went upstairs. I mounted up on a passenger mount and put her on it. We get to any base and I'm just jumping around in circles and everyone's blowing their cooldowns and roleplay walking after us.

Not a single slow on me, just full attempts at death gripping her and throwing traps and shit

[rancid granite]

those guys were probably sweating it thinking you were cheating somehow too

[urban skiff]

lmao

[spice hornet]

Reapmon

[vivid pumice]

as cheater heavy as RBGs were it would not surprise me to find rampant cheating in blitz, those people gotta go somewhere

[worldly oriole]

@copper fox do u really have a guild to invite me to

i needa pve guild too haha

actually some epic screenshots in my wow folder

[urban skiff]

no i meant actual bots

not exactly cheating

[frank knoll]

Yeah don’t do that the whole arena unless you’re fighting slippery wizards and can’t get uptime

[frank knoll]

There’s wintrading and queue sync/dodging for sure

[worldly oriole]

vengeance keys in legion

[copper fox]

@worldly oriole yea when I get on later I’ll inv you

[copper fox]

I doubt anyone here sees blitz cheating

If it happens it happens at the top of the ladder the last 3 days

No one’s win trading in week 6

Tony can you never talk about bfa or legion again

You have unbound keys

Stop

[worldly oriole]

LOL they made fun of me

for backpeddaling in rbgs

[copper fox]

I changed my mind you’re not getting invited to this guild

Jk I’ll inv you but knowing you you’ll get yourself kicked anyway

[worldly oriole]

hittin gold cap

then i bought epic spectral with it

my FAT arcanocrystal

[spice hornet]

TBT back to the last time Tony wasn’t washed

[spice hornet]

Tf with a socket damn

[worldly oriole]

yea you had to farm it from argus

with the currency you get from there

then rng the vendor

[copper fox]

Tony explaining legion as if no one else played it

Tony was the only person who played legion and bfa

[worldly oriole]

legion was dope af

i didnt really pvp til the verey end

but it woulda made it better

but ya i was backpeddaler

[spice hornet]

dominoes pizza or papa johns?

only americans can answer

[frank knoll]

I there was a group of people last season streaming themselves dodging to sync queues for like an hour.

[rancid granite]

dominos for their chicken habanero sub, papa johns if you want pizza

but that chicken hab. sub is 10/10

[spice hornet]

damnn

never tried the sub

but agree on papa johns for sure

[rancid granite]

it sent me on a mission to find the best mango hab sauce

at home version is simple

chicken/pineapple/jalapenos/mango havb sauce/cheese

[copper fox]

Dominos if you’re drunk and papa John’s if you’re racist

[spice hornet]

What if you’re both?

[rancid granite]

pizza hut

[copper fox]

^

[sharp meteor]

Frozen pizza and a can of steel reserve.

[vivid pumice]

7/11 pizza is actually goated

[spice hornet]

I would not be surprised if Pizza Hut went out of business soon

[rancid granite]

everybody here is right the question was kind of weak since there is no wrong answer

[spice hornet]

I don’t know anyone who eats it and my wife ordered it for friends one time and it was like $37 for a medium pizza with some wings

[rancid granite]

isnt that every pizza place now tho lol

[sharp meteor]

Fast food prices in general.

[rancid granite]

yeah kennie's idea the only thing i do these days

frozen pizza every once in a while np

[violet fossil]

Is it too late

Papa John’s

[opal mulch]

Are people over here leaning more towards Frienzed Enrage or Powerful? I've testing a bit of both and I feel like I'm bit more succesful with Powerful

Somewhat new to warrior here, but I'm currenlty sitting at 44% mastery and 13% haste if that is anything to go by

[sharp meteor]

I like heavy mastery with powerful.

The haste and movement speed nice if you're constantly running and not sitting cc, though.

[opal mulch]

Also leaning more towards heavy mastery one, just been seeing alot more people play frienzed lately

[sharp meteor]

I tend to lean away from haste because it's easier to lose value with relative to dmg/mastery

also big topend hits surprise people and force buttons or kills

bonk 4.5m execute

[opal mulch]

Another thing, I see most of fury warrs play cold steel, hot blood, to me the dmg seems VERY underwhelming, am I off my tracks if I choose to play cruelty instead?

[copper fox]

Heavy mastery is the only way

Tbh

[sharp meteor]

Yeah I dislike all the bleed stuff

[opal mulch]

So straight to the trashcan goes Frienzed Enrage and CSHB, ty for help

[rancid granite]

the new pfp is disgustingly adorable

[sharp meteor]

Oh, this one?

I can't decide on which to use.

[spice hornet]

That is cute

[spice hornet]

my poor buds who are like 2.1k players max just trying to have a gaming sesh tonight, qs so dead this is what they get

ah chun still in placements on that rogue that might be why

[ebon steeple]

The amount of times i have seen flop is insane

The man plays too much rss

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm photomode is a distraction i cannot afford

[fierce elm]

WAKE UP

[night cosmos]

so im getting back into pvp if i already have 665+ gear on evryslot from pve should i still buy the honor gear just for the versa switch ?

[fierce elm]

Well, you are most likely replacing most honor pieces with conq rather quick

especially since you get the crafting things for both rings+neck from a single BG win

You could blow some honor to replace some pieces, but I would personally just grind conquest/bloody tokens

[urban skiff]

Try it, if the game feels difficult you can raise vers a bit with just crafted jewelry

[night cosmos]

aite thx guys and what should be my prio first with conq trinket or keep them for 2nd weapon since im fury

[fierce elm]

You get weapon for free after getting 2500 conquest

Id spend honor on the trinkets for now tbh

Just to get the bonus

[night cosmos]

isnt it just 1 weapon tho i need 2 as a fury

[fierce elm]

You get two tokens, weapon cost 1 token

[night cosmos]

ait thx

[urban skiff]

So I've been thinking again

It's impossible to queue up for a blitz and have no warriors

So if I queue with my pee eye wife, and go on my shaman. We just find the biggest warrior and follow him around anywhere. And coordinate PI+Lust on the warrior whenever he pops cds

Not to win, just to make him feel big

[fierce elm]

Chad

[slow solstice]

why did my duelist title go away

[fierce elm]

Its seasonal brother

[slow solstice]

so the only thing that stays is glad

[fierce elm]

Thats also just seasonal

except for the mount

[slow solstice]

wtf

[fierce elm]

The only title that you keep are the r1 titles

[slow solstice]

even hero of the alliance etc

like

tormented gladiator

[fierce elm]

HotA is a r1 title

tormented gladiator is a r1 title

[slow solstice]

oh

dogshit system

[fierce elm]

lmao

git gud nerd

[slow solstice]

no

i was doing skirmishes a few days ago

i was 1v2ing

and if i got ccd game was over

[green wharf]

already had some blitzs without then when i was pushing me warlock

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff fucking love this gym