pvp

[urban skiff]

at least blitz is fun on my shaman, it's not as much fun on warrior

[bright kraken]

there's so many fucking problems with that

[lavish quest]

You mean lose 2 games in a row?

[sharp meteor]

nah kotmogu best map aside from maybe wsg

twin peaks too faction favored

ab/deepwind too big, need to turn bases off

eots is just rancid

[urban skiff]

I know I'm bad. But it makes me feel bad when people say that anyone no matter how bad can get R1 in blitz, and then I can't.

[sharp meteor]

wish i didnt hate half the maps

[bright kraken]

1. completely unplayable for any pet class (im not even mad necessarily about it since my pet is usually by my side but it's seriously unfair)

2. most people can't grab orbs

genuinely half of my games one side doesn't even have 500 points by the time the other team wins

[urban skiff]

I wish they developed entirely new maps for blitz, instead of insisting on how we have to stick with biased crap

[copper fox]

You have 1/8th of the games played to make that determination

[sharp meteor]

good pet specs are cringe

[sharp meteor]

i mean kotmogu has decent comeback mechanics

its just that one team has better players

[bright kraken]

and most people also just dont grab orbs

[sharp meteor]

so people get outtempod with like

rotaitons

[bright kraken]

even after you

[urban skiff]

I mean I can see nothing happening and my rating not moving

[bright kraken]

repeatedly say to

[sharp meteor]

i mean yeah most people are bad so

they int other maps in their own way too

just gotta q back up

[urban skiff]

kotmogu is vulnerable to weird spawn mechanicisi

[bright kraken]

yeah but it's way more devastating on kotmogu lmao

[urban skiff]

People spawning in 4 different corners at different intervals, it's very difficult for people to meet back up

without serious coordination

[sharp meteor]

kotmogu > wsg > tp > deephaul (not bugging out) > ab/deepwind >>>>> eots

[copper fox]

I hate AB

[sharp meteor]

ya ab with 8 people is demonic

[copper fox]

Feels harder to carry

[urban skiff]

i feel like you're missing one

[jovial torrent]

temple of who has more rogues/dh/mages that can constantly dash or become invulnerable to avoid oneshots

[sharp meteor]

wow we get 2 warrs they get 2 rogues and 2 druids we lose

[bright kraken]

i dont mind arathi basin

[lavish quest]

The best blitz matches are the ones I win

:)

[bright kraken]

i think it's fine enough

[lavish quest]

Maps*

[green wharf]

that doesnt seem right does it

[bright kraken]

forgot gilneas also

[urban skiff]

AB needs longer timers but same points for a cap

[bright kraken]

gilneas is favoured to alliance it's kinda cringe

[copper fox]

Gilneas best map

[jovial torrent]

honestly i think the most balanced map is gilneas, the minecart one id say i feel like if i play well i can win that too

[copper fox]

Zug

[green wharf]

i saw many peple with 3k last season

[sharp meteor]

aight lets see

[lavish quest]

Eots might be the best map

[urban skiff]

I want to love gilneas but EotS is unfortunately the most fun when I'm on my shaman

[sharp meteor]

eots probs worst

[bright kraken]

have you ever lost to a smokebomb cap on waterworks as soon as the game starts?

[sharp meteor]

gilneas is good

silvershart is good

[copper fox]

No I haven’t

But I’ve seen it

lol

[green wharf]

worst bg is that pandaria one with 5 flags

[bright kraken]

alliance gets to ww before horde can cross the water

[green wharf]

fuck that one

[urban skiff]

only when there are no bdks

[sharp meteor]

one night i queued into skinniefiends like 12 times in a row in eots/gilneas and every game was just him fast cappin a base

[urban skiff]

Or any specs with big zoning abilities

[bright kraken]

only when people can do offcarts

[lavish quest]

Why? Eots has good playability. A couple different things you can do

[sharp meteor]

people not knowing hwere to be doesnt make map bad

[lavish quest]

The base maps are the worst by far because have to rely on idiots way more

[urban skiff]

Skill issue, you should have queued up so you ended up on his team, not against

[sharp meteor]

if it did all maps bad

[sharp meteor]

i was on his team half the time

just funny ame ends in 20 seconds

[jovial torrent]

meant to say valley of four winds is the biggest coinflip, down to best offbase players and healrs

[sharp meteor]

ya too big

not enough time to rotate to other spots

tedious

[jovial torrent]

the cap time is too short, u need to be given more time before the bases become protected

[urban skiff]

that's the one I hate the most

Impossible to compensate for bad team, somehow AB allows some cool tricks at each base

[jovial torrent]

hunters/rogues just run around and since we dont have spammable cc if they have trink they can ez def

ab bases are closer, u have time to cap a base, get it protected then quickly run somewhere else for like 10 secs to swing it

[copper fox]

I hate when the other team has a mm and I get stuck with the bm

[lavish quest]

Bm eats booty tho

[jovial torrent]

im about to go for 1800 on my hunter, i dunno if sentinel is now better tho or if murlok updated after nerfs

[copper fox]

BM is so ass in bgb

[green wharf]

the ones with 5 bases yeah, guilneas is more chill cause only 3

[green wharf]

both are good afaik

[rancid granite]

first of all you're awful; second of all i need that shirt

[green wharf]

not that much, its just that MM is broken

[lavish quest]

Nah, cause even then the idiot loses your base and it's free loss gg

[green wharf]

BM have the same problem as Demon, fucking in combat all the time

but bm can at least feign death toa void it

[copper fox]

Dude

Demo is unplayable in bgb with the combat issue

[green wharf]

its a pain in the ass

thats why i went for destro this season

demo is a truck but that shit ruins the gameplay

[sharp meteor]

ya thus the uncontested cutoff

[green wharf]

sometimes i was dead

[sharp meteor]

its like enh or aug where whomever can stomach 200 games gets r1

[green wharf]

and i come back STILL IN COMBAT

FFS

[copper fox]

Coin is the only psychopath doing it but he plays the game 24/7

All specs

He’s the top 3 demo locks

[sharp meteor]

i wish all the bg boomers did blitz instead of premading epics

random bgs just so cringe now

[green wharf]

I got 2.1k as demo last season, but no more

until they fix that shit

[lavish quest]

Who does ransom bgs

[copper fox]

IMO there’s also certain specs where if you duo you’re griefing your team

[green wharf]

i lost base once because when i got ress i was in combat and could not mount

[copper fox]

Demo you should be solo qing. Tf you need a coordinated healer for as demo

[green wharf]

fuck that

[copper fox]

How do you even die as demo

Before your team floats

You’re invincible for like 2 minutes between stuns and fears lol

[green wharf]

defending the base against 3 people and no one came to help

[copper fox]

Fair

[sharp meteor]

most people?

[green wharf]

it would be fine cause i timed my cds

i was going to live and come back to stop their cap

but no, cant mount

thankfully i did not lose that game or i would tweark

[lavish quest]

Ewwww

[copper fox]

Kennie did you duo q as a tank or solo more frequently

[lavish quest]

Sad if true

[copper fox]

@ your higher mmrs

[sharp meteor]

only solo at high mmr

[copper fox]

Yea figured

[sharp meteor]

i was gonna duo with pres but he didnt think tanks would get high enough and figured title was too contested

[green wharf]

only a fraction of people do ranked

[sharp meteor]

but ended like 3600 mmr on blood or somethin and spiked to 3700

[green wharf]

most are fine just chilling a random bg

sometimes is fun to turn brain off and get 20 kills and still lose cause you didnt p´lay objectives

[lavish quest]

Random bgs blow for at least a decade

[copper fox]

Tanks, demo, bm are all specs that should never duo

IMO

[sharp meteor]

my vulpera tank poppin up in a 3600-3750 mmr game

[copper fox]

Lmfao

[sharp meteor]

i think blood with pres or mw would've been giga

cos u get owned on flag map with like rdruid or rsham disc

too easy to not roll a fc

[copper fox]

Ok fair

True

[sharp meteor]

although sometimes u insta slump enemy team hard enough for it not to matter so eh

it still feels rly annoyoing to roll wsg then tp then wsg with non fc healers

[green wharf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256452751555170314/1341945926968803398/legion_takeover.gif

[rancid granite]

love this lmao

[green wharf]

but it is a rly nice drawing

[green wharf]

remove the elf and you have proper horde

[sharp meteor]

and honestly most of the non bdk tanks felt kind of scuffed relative to blood

unless u were like prot warr on spam team fight map like silvershard or gilneas or uhh deephaul

[copper fox]

There’s no way you lose that game

That was a flag map?

[copper fox]

You had 2x mw 2x dev and you lol

[sharp meteor]

idr actually i only played a few games on kenns at the end

was trying to get alt dk out of mmr purgatory

queued with 2k mmr friend and lost

[copper fox]

lol wait which tanks did you end up with r1 on

Kennie got ss r1 right

[bright kraken]

@sharp meteor im fucked

[sharp meteor]

kennie got r1 blitz, caleb got r1 blitz/shuff, kayn (blood) got r1 blitz

[bright kraken]

i was at 2130

and now im just

going 4-2 or 3-3

wtf

[copper fox]

Ah ok

[sharp meteor]

idk that seems fine

[bright kraken]

im not yoyoing??

[sharp meteor]

i was scard u wer gonna send like

1900 cr screenie

[bright kraken]

im not going 6-0 and then 0-6

[sharp meteor]

lmao

[bright kraken]

😭

fuck u

[sharp meteor]

u doin fine

[copper fox]

If you were normal specs idk if you could
Hold all of those r1 spots lol

[sharp meteor]

yeah so the cr thing was hard

[fierce elm]

How many rounds

so far

[copper fox]

Probably just gapped on tanks

[sharp meteor]

my prots were 3400 mmr

and my blood 3600ish

i had like 3k and 3.2k cr on my chars

gettin those last games in was brutal

[copper fox]

800-1000 less cr than most specs

Yea I bet

[sharp meteor]

if i did an arms or fury push itd mostly just be

the problem rly is just

getting games in

cos u can only q at like

weekend

late

right

[copper fox]

I’m going to “attempt” aff r1 blitz and fury r1 ss this season but idk if I’ll be able to at the end

[sharp meteor]

and i like alts

[copper fox]

Hold both

[sharp meteor]

so if i push 4 chars

imma get owned by dudes with 1-2

right

cos they might get 10 games in one weekend and i get 2-3 per char

[copper fox]

Right

[worldly oriole]

IS MOUNtain thane the play?

[bright kraken]

i get 2.4k soon

[sharp meteor]

its also like do i go for fury/arms pushies or just keep securing prot

[bright kraken]

all things considered. better than 6.8k

[sharp meteor]

that's a

healthy sum of games this week

[sharp meteor]

tru LMAO

[fierce elm]

500 THIS WEEK

WHAT THE HELL

[sharp meteor]

ya u queuefiend

[copper fox]

Keep securing prot if ss because I need less contenting for ss

[sharp meteor]

the real qfiend

[copper fox]

Ty

[fierce elm]

Real addiction going on

[sharp meteor]

@spice hornet yo

[bright kraken]

i mostly wanna get this one

[fierce elm]

So not SS then

[bright kraken]

but gonna try for this tihing too

[copper fox]

You know that’s not ss right

[bright kraken]

i used SS to get a bearing of the spec

[fierce elm]

so not SS then

[copper fox]

Oh ok

[bright kraken]

yeah

[boreal veldt]

mother mary that is so much

[sharp meteor]

i feel like fury and arms feel too good now and lotta people push those

[fierce elm]

Arent you playing hunter still

[spice hornet]

bruhh

[sharp meteor]

LMAOOO

[bright kraken]

hold on a sec im gonna find it

[sharp meteor]

vesas change ur name to qfiend

[copper fox]

Yea so let’s keep it as low as possible

[spice hornet]

he is the true qfiend\

[sharp meteor]

and i really think meditating between queues is good

[copper fox]

I’m getting fury r1 this season

[sharp meteor]

spam q is just like

gambling

[copper fox]

And that’s about that 🫥

[fierce elm]

Fury abuser

[copper fox]

YEP

[fierce elm]

smh

[spice hornet]

he has to beat other fury abusers as well tho

[fierce elm]

That is true

[sharp meteor]

i kind of wanna push fury or arms on shuff

just spam q like vesos

hm

[sharp meteor]

if i dont do keys might do that

[fierce elm]

They share one collective brain cell at the top 50 for both arms and fury

[copper fox]

27 flokks

How many fucking Flokks are there

So many flokks

[boreal veldt]

one for every day of the week

[fierce elm]

lmao

Jesus christ

[bright kraken]

wait

[boreal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[bright kraken]

it's closer to 6.9k than 6.8k

omg

funnny number

[sharp meteor]

ill queue like 500 a season and be like

mentally taxed

and retire to achis for a while

[bright kraken]

@sharp meteor i was told by an rdruid in shuffle that the swap on hots strat only works on shit rdrus is that true

[sharp meteor]

uhhh idk now actually

and rdruid good swap target if u have cc/burst

[bright kraken]

oh also apparently i was shit x

[sharp meteor]

swap on hots idk tho but like

in general

[fierce elm]

what rating was he

[sharp meteor]

hitting tagets without hots

forces globals and mana

[bright kraken]

idk 2.1-2.3

[fierce elm]

Yeah he SUCKS

[sharp meteor]

idk thats kind of high on healer rn

[bright kraken]

exp was 3.2k or 3k but that was SL S3

[fierce elm]

SUCKS

[sharp meteor]

and strength of swappin on hots kind of depends

[sharp meteor]

dang cosmics

[nimble jasper]

Lowkey feel alot of rdrus suck at dealing with

being swapped to

[bright kraken]

they have every glad before s4 df they said

[sharp meteor]

rdruids usually struggle with spacing and being swapped to yuh

[bright kraken]

lemme pull their seramate

[sharp meteor]

but people in shuff dont hit healers so lmao

[bright kraken]

https://seramate.com/us/Tichondrius/Commerci

[sharp meteor]

LOLLLL

[bright kraken]

whuh

[sharp meteor]

omg this guy whispered me to kms after i reflected his clone and kille dhim

[bright kraken]

bruh 😭

[spice hornet]

most polite druid player

[fierce elm]

lmao

[sharp meteor]

well i got cloned like 3 times when nothing was happening then reflected a clone and split his partner in half and he sent me the manifesto

[bright kraken]

but uh

that's who told me

[sharp meteor]

wonder why he quit draconic that mount went crazy

actually maybe he got banned

[sharp meteor]

hmm

[boreal veldt]

couldn't imagine why

[sharp meteor]

ya idk how good swappin on hots is rn

in general swapping on hots/bark is like

hitting into it is inefficient

cos they healing for 500k a second

[worldly oriole]

swap to me on rdru im travel form wildd charging ur ass

[bright kraken]

i mean its still common sense to swap at least on that

[worldly oriole]

gg

[green wharf]

hots? the blizzard success game heroes of the storm?

[copper fox]

@bright kraken flop got swapped on in AWC without hots and died

[bright kraken]

it's like hitting into bop or ps

[copper fox]

And I’d say

[nimble jasper]

Honestly yeah most just overcommit if they dont die on the swap

[copper fox]

He’s good

So

[sharp meteor]

rdruid lopst its tranq immune

[nimble jasper]

the only rdrui i didnt see this with was dinoe

[sharp meteor]

seen lot of durids explode this seas

in swaps

esp in 2s

bro opens with rake and think he not gonna get shot in the head

[nimble jasper]

like i’ve seen dinoe catweave hyper aggro

then be super slippery

perma

[boreal veldt]

ancient of lore isn't as tanky as i thought it would be

[sharp meteor]

oh dnos knows when he can move like that

and more leeway into casters

like outlaw warr ww still insta kill rdruid through bark without trinket

in a swap

[nimble jasper]

the classic

[sharp meteor]

ya never seen this many rdruids die in the first 30 seconds

[nimble jasper]

i never had the bad luck

to q into kubzy rdru

though

[sharp meteor]

i feel like i only see him on arcane

[nimble jasper]

tbf hes a super good multiclasser

dont get why his team has multiple people play rogue or mage

in different rounds though

[spice hornet]

have to give this one up. have meetings.

[boreal veldt]

gotta pump those numbers up to get your name back Q

[spice hornet]

my 3 warrs all above 2.4k in shuff and still have less games than him

summed up

[boreal veldt]

he has more games than all my DF expansion queues

[spice hornet]

[sharp meteor]

LMAO

man the time investment

to push just 1 spec on one char

😵‍💫

[bright kraken]

worst ending

FUCK

@sharp meteor can you backseat

[spice hornet]

this is the warrior discord

[sharp meteor]

runnin out right now i fear

and ya im rly not good for specific stuff on non warr or maybe dk classes rn

just generic positioning and cd usage stuff

[bright kraken]

yeah i need that lol

[boreal veldt]

bout time for me to farm good karma on my healers at low rating

tbh i have no idea what i'm doing positioning wise with casting

[rancid granite]

after my big speech of sub rogue i am down from 1950 to 1880 whew im rusty

[fickle forge]

Healing is the easiest role

You get used to it fast

[copper fox]

Sometimes there’s just nothing you can do about the 6-0

[fickle forge]

Have you tried winning instead?

[green wharf]

See evoker 6-0

told ya fuckers

[bright kraken]

Could've gotten a 3-3 one round when I swapped to monk, the Evoker and paladin max ranged on the other side of map and mm went to chase, healer had to attend to them. I had the monk out of range and los of their whole team and they had sub 20% left

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/aaronpaul-aaron-paul-cry-crying-gif-7621646

[copper fox]

Rip

[wheat jay]

said warlock

anyone got the illusion of choice meme?

[warm pollen]

myth track trashmaster's is bis cloak for pvp right?

[sharp meteor]

idk why you'd think that

it can be i guess if you are somehow lacking in vers despite basicaly infinite sources

bis is like mythic gallywix mace and ring

[warm pollen]

vers is best pvp stat no? this cloak has more vers than any pvp vers

[fierce elm]

Not really

at least not for either warr spec

we want vers

[sharp meteor]

Kind of, not really.

[fierce elm]

however, we don't want all the vers

[sharp meteor]

You want some but not to hard stack vers.

Otherwise you just get outpressured.

[warm pollen]

how much vers ideally you shouldnt go past?

[fierce elm]

About as much as feelycrafty me wants

It would probs be a fine pvp cloak

[spice hornet]

@sharp meteor trying again after my meetings

[fierce elm]

However, you are also only getting vers

[sharp meteor]

I saw mag in like a 6 hour queue

[spice hornet]

wtff

[fierce elm]

Yeah he tweeted his 3 hour queue

and @warcraftdevs lmao

[frank knoll]

It’s lonely at the top

Wanna play then learn to suck

[boreal veldt]

warriors taking Ws give me life

[sharp meteor]

hm what's that addon/wa that puts a big healer icon over healer

[lavish quest]

About 30% then wane off to dmg stats

You'll easily go over 30% with full conq gear

[ebon steeple]

betterblizzplates I think

[copper fox]

Sweepyboop

PvP helper

[sharp meteor]

interesting ty

[fickle forge]

The secret tech has been found

[copper fox]

I see rend tho

[rancid granite]

bullying people with a 620ilvl?

[copper fox]

The secret tech has been found @fickle forge ^

[spice hornet]

damn 5.4m non crit

[thick reef]

Any RBG chads?

[spice hornet]

LOL

[sharp meteor]

It's just blitz now.

[thick reef]

Blitz is nightmare

Half of people are in PvE gear.

[rancid granite]

nightmare if you take it srsly definitely

[sharp meteor]

It's a nightmare if you care about individual games.

[rancid granite]

/or if the goal is to climb

[lavish quest]

Just imagine blitz is a slot machine

[sharp meteor]

I mean assuming your timeline isn't' restrictive the short term usually doesn't matter

because if the goal is to climb the plan is to just focus on adapting as best you can to each match

and outcome doesn't really matter

[rancid granite]

i wake up as primetime blitz time ends 😭

yeah thats exactly what i say

but the majority, it seems think otherwise

[sharp meteor]

when you queue blitz doesn't matter until you get to like 2800-3100ish mmr

[rancid granite]

true

[sharp meteor]

which is honestly annoying because it's troll to just spam press queue at a point

so everybody just queues alts until late

[rancid granite]

my plan is to hit 2400 on my mains then retire to blitz until i get a 3s team

[scenic oracle]

ayo time to test the bleedless build

[urban skiff]

Why does Laros have no vers?

[fierce elm]

whatchu mean

[sharp meteor]

Little haste with powerful enrage feels interesting

just execute proc somebody from half health

[boreal veldt]

reflecting bolts?

[fickle forge]

Ye boi

[boreal veldt]

Yeee

[frank knoll]

If you play a rogue or something blitz is less of a slot machine

[rancid granite]

its a lonely existence let me tell you

[copper fox]

He raids also

Probably caught his pve gear

[sharp meteor]

ya vers is beans in pve

[urban skiff]

vers is crap in pve because it takes 66% of mastery to do the same as vers does for your damage across many specs, if not almost all of them.

If your mastery effect is "increases damage done by 1%" then you need 2/3 mastery rating to get the same damage as 3/3 vers rating.

Because blizzard weights the damage reduction part of vers as being equal to the damage part.

[sharp meteor]

ya im aware ty zerchers

[urban skiff]

Mostly just info for anyone else reading as well

It's just a neat pattern i noticed

Seeing how all specs require different amounts of mastery to get 1%, it's almost like they're using mastery as the knob to turn to make sure vers isn't the most desirable stat in pve.

@spice hornet unfortunately no kills but they were hard carried by my mistakes and their MS effect. Am I still a jumpscare with 4.4m dps?

[rancid granite]

they 1 shot me that match :)

[spice hornet]

no kills? Sounds about right

Did you accidentally queue in a bracket that doesn’t have bots in it?

[urban skiff]

Nah, was a skirmish to try something out

but they were FMP and seemed coordinated enough on CC that I assume they queued together for whatever reason

But almost 4.5m dps is a lot

And peaking 3m every 30 second interval isn't half bad e ither

[copper fox]

I pve but I don’t min max stats

[urban skiff]

If I were a better player this spec would definitely do something useful

[stuck mulch]

the bonk will go on

[worldly oriole]

Guise i have a natty daddy

mountain thane was owning the 1500 bracket earlier

i was thunderclapping kids harder than ever

[vivid pumice]

i hit my rank goal on fury warrior for the season, i'm trying to decide between pushing with arms now or leveling and gearing another fury warrior that only does SMF

[worldly oriole]

whats smf

i need to level a gnome

[vivid pumice]

single minded fury, it's an absolute meme but i've always wanted to do it

[worldly oriole]

for maximum uptime

[vivid pumice]

it's the talent that makes 1h weapons "good"

[rancid granite]

simple minded fury*

[sharp meteor]

what was goal

[sharp meteor]

its just normal fury except slightly less hp and stats which costs u a talent point

[rancid granite]

wish it was more MS

5%, elusive bloodstone etc, but still so low with how ms stacking works

[sharp meteor]

devs just decided u use 2 2handers

no matter how stupid it looks

[exotic forge]

Smf was good

[sharp meteor]

when

[vivid pumice]

@sharp meteor I just wanted to get over 1800 for the gear set. I usually push a few specs to 1800 for the mog and then pick one to keep climbing on for the season

[exotic forge]

But they're trying to kill it

[sharp meteor]

when was it good

how many years ago

[exotic forge]

DF during Season 1 and 2 when Annihilator was a thing

[sharp meteor]

no?

[exotic forge]

Yep

Read what SMF does

Look back at annihilator

[sharp meteor]

ya it was still bad

[exotic forge]

Both synergized

[vivid pumice]

SMF will never be good as long as 2H weapons have considerably more stats than 1h weapons, they have to either do something to 1h weapons to make them stand out or just buff the shit out of the stats on them, but i doubt they'll do either

[exotic forge]

It really wasn't tho

[rancid granite]

ok new goal is 2100 get on it :)

[exotic forge]

It's doable

I know I did last season

[sharp meteor]

man placements go crazy

[sharp meteor]

sick get illusion and elite weps

[vivid pumice]

my experience has been that 1900+ is where it starts to get difficult and you start to really only see the fotm specs and I'm just not about spending the 2-3 hours a night i have gaming on sitting 15 minute queues for sweat lobbies

[rancid granite]

it's not like that at all

just Q and stomp

but yeah the higher you go up the harder it is but thats when it gets fun

💪

[vivid pumice]

maybe I'm traumatised by last season where at 1900 I constantly ran into AWC players in solo shuffle

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-cat-gif-23815619

[sharp meteor]

uhhh

people at 1900 last seas didnt have their monitors plugged in

although first few weeks of this seas lil rough ye

[rancid granite]

2100 isn't far from 1800 it's a smol goal jump

[ebon steeple]

Aye, if you can hit 1800 then 2100 really isn't that far off

[vivid pumice]

nah last season in the 1900 bracket i was legit running into Pikaboo, Mes, Bicmex...like every 4th game I'd be against some tournament player

[sharp meteor]

in shuff?

[rancid granite]

sus

[sharp meteor]

like in the edating/booster bracket (2s) sure but like

wait how u getting bicmex and mes in same region

[rancid granite]

i think he just got stomped by some kid drooling on their keyboard so he thinks its pikaboo

source: im a 2100 player and i drool every game

[vivid pumice]

no man I would pull up streams to confirm, I would run into pika playing on alts constantly

I got absolutely trashed by Mes and he was playing Blood dk

[rancid granite]

i'm 2100 and i stomped venruki whats your excuse

[vivid pumice]

although that might have been last season of DF i don't remember

[charred meadow]

What do I play in pvp or is it what I enjoy more?

[ebon steeple]

Dipi, larosw, foxy, Supatease, xeek and venruki are the ones I see the most in rss

Mag once in awhile

[rancid granite]

people usually have to pay to play with some pros

sounds like a win/win

[exotic forge]

I've played against and with Venruki twice in ss before; sometimes the arena world is very small

[rancid granite]

best way to improve playing with some pros sounds like you got it good

would love to get stomped by pika or some shit tbh

[reef sorrel]

2 species, the complainer, and the learner

[copper fox]

@fair anvil lmk when you’re qing so I can farm you out of my title range ty

[ebon steeple]

Pika is one of the easier streamers to fight since it's most viewers he plays in stuff like 2s.

[copper fox]

Jk we are all friends

Wait this guy said he was running into mes pika and bicmex

mixing regions?

[copper fox]

Nvm you said it already

Why are people always in here exaggerating

1900 ss last season was bots

It was literally starting mmr after a certain point

[sharp meteor]

dudes q into some unchained drake player on their 8th alt

[copper fox]

Exactly lol
I q some classes I’m absolutely dog shit on sometimes and I ride a glad mount in then do 50% of the dps a good player on the class would do

People probably make a Reddit post after it

[rancid granite]

q'ing against pika in ss for 6 rounds in a row somehow going 0-6

[copper fox]

Never q shuffle at 3pm on week days if you want 1800 it’s always just whazz and laros gatekeeping

Impossible to climb

[exotic forge]

Gates were meant to be broken

Become the wall you so wish to break

[copper fox]

That’s poetic

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/toronto-blue-jays-just-win-munenori-kawasaki-win-mlb-gif-21879185

[exotic forge]

I mean it's simple but it's true

Fight back and give it a try

[sharp meteor]

just had a mw last seas call laros dumb for not hitting me the prot warr

[exotic forge]

You might as well win 1 or 2 rounds

[ebon steeple]

I always have fun fighting laros tho

[copper fox]

Lmao was it meep. Kids always mad

[rancid granite]

https://www.twitch.tv/venruki/clip/AnnoyingDifferentRavenPupper-ibs9aA1E0Giyn9xs

i kept donking venruki

and i am god awful

i made him look like beans (or whatever kennie would say)

[copper fox]

Idc about laros he’s an auto r1 place I need to just keep you other warriors down

I bet there’s some Chinese saying about friends being enemies but still being friends during competition

That’s me and every other fury warrior on the ss ladder rn

I want us all to succeed but I need you all to fail at the same time 😏

[rancid granite]

'go fury' is my favorite phrase

[sharp meteor]

nah mystical

id drag meep around in blitz tho but he didnt stream those

[copper fox]

Meep plays too sporadically in blitz in general

[sharp meteor]

there's another chinese saying and it's something about wintrading idk

[copper fox]

LOL

[sharp meteor]

so gl on fury push

[copper fox]

need to study up on that one myself

🙃

You need friends to wintrade

And I

Don’t have any

So

Rip

Idk man

Laros, mag, flokk and kent are the only fury warriors im considering as almost guaranteed R1s in ss

I think I can compete with the rest

[frank knoll]

Going to push on MENSAcleave this season I think

[vivid pumice]

yes i have NA and EU accounts

[ebon steeple]

Oh wait your number 7, damn I really need to rss again. Was number 2 and stop playing now I'm 10th

[copper fox]

Lmao I was literally #5 12 hours ago

But 4/5 of the top 5 rn are only 2 people ofc so

[ebon steeple]

True

[copper fox]

Ok which one of you made this post and why is that prot definitely @sharp meteor

[sharp meteor]

god i wish

i just roll moonkins and mages

[copper fox]

Rip

[worldly oriole]

IM JUS tryna push diamond in solo but the nubcakes are gatekeeeping

[copper fox]

Worst troll ngl

[frank knoll]

Go to 3s play MENSAcleave

[copper fox]

Arms sucks

Idk why I made this

[rancid granite]

sounds like a fun lobby

[spice hornet]

Hi

[green wharf]

"cursed lobby"

dude clearly never went all 3 mage lobby

[copper fox]

IT WAS YOU WASNT IT

[spice hornet]

Couldn’t be me. I’m not playing that abomination spec arms

[copper fox]

True

[ebon steeple]

First game of rss today and it's dino/Smexxing in one lobby

[copper fox]

Did you smack smex down

That’s a mandatory W

[ebon steeple]

Went 3/3

So not bad

The hunter wasn't the best

[copper fox]

Was it Salvy

[ebon steeple]

Gennarahunts

I think, let me look at details

Aye it was

[copper fox]

Hunters in general just make lobbies weird

For warriors

[spice hornet]

I had him earlier

Ok confession time after 2 hours of qs I zone into a dev/frost mage/MM

mid round 1 I just left . Haven’t left a lobby since like mid DF

3rd warrior so I didn’t care too much, just not goin to be miserable every single round of that

[ebon steeple]

Well i gain some cr and now back where i was

[copper fox]

He’s horrible

[copper fox]

Lmfao damn I’ve never left I’m a puss

[copper fox]

Took back # 2?

[ebon steeple]

Nah still at 10

so not bad

Got to 5 then went back to 10

i'll take that

[spice hornet]

@sharp meteor imagine if dozer was active in here

[sharp meteor]

He'd just drop a bunch of slurs and get banned.

[robust hearth]

Who?

[sharp meteor]

Just an old forum regular.

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1jwxxst/lets_talk_about_arena_1_most_games_played_player/

@fierce elm

Your favorite unstable druid is back

[scenic oracle]

4k games is crazy

[urban skiff]

yep, 4k is a LOT

I feel crazy for having 400 rounds of shuffle on my shaman

[fierce elm]

old

[urban skiff]

1800 incoming

@fierce elm

literally 7 shuffles plus leavers shuffles

shout out to this champ, nice mount

[green wharf]

My god

gnome warrior looks so fucking ugly

[jovial torrent]

i wish they would hurry up and remove /let you pick racials

i identify as short person who can slip out of roots

[green wharf]

Just remove racials from ranked content

[jovial torrent]

id be fine with that, feel like nelf is way stronger on most classes than gnome is on war

[thick reef]

Statistically speaking - which choice is safer bet for solo shuffle, arms or fury?

[green wharf]

fury

[fierce elm]

fury

@urban skiff This gym has better vibes

Also just hit a 165kg double pause on bench, highest I have gone in a minute

The bench situation is scuffed, gotta learn how to bench in a rack

[jovial torrent]

i always bench in the rack , really dont wana do the side to side shimmy of shame

[scenic oracle]

165kg jfc

[fierce elm]

Have always had some sort of adjustable comp bench

but the benches here cant be adjusted

And the ”highest” position I gotta do a half rep to get it off lmao

[fierce elm]

warrior main brother

[jovial torrent]

still pretty new to gym, 90kg bench atm

[fierce elm]

Thats a pretty good bench

[jovial torrent]

i started at 40kg and my sholders felt crackly

[fierce elm]

You are probs above the average of gym goers

[jovial torrent]

got little baby bird joints

[fierce elm]

or rather you are

I just throw stuff at my joints and they sometimes hurt

[jovial torrent]

i think i have like bad shoulders or somthing cus im very tricep dominant

i close grip pretty much the same as regular grip

[fierce elm]

Might just be a muscle imbalance, also you should be tricep dominant

like as a normal person

Your shoulders are very weak compared to the force output of your triceps

Now throw in chest and the shoulders are playing a very small role in the movement

[green wharf]

they removed warlock buffs, lmao

blizzard

[jovial torrent]

true, i think shoulders are just somthing i need to focus on if i wana hit 100kg, but going decently steady progress wise, i started in october with the 40kg bench but it felt so clunky and awful i spent the first 2 months doing machines and other stuff, once my back got a bit thicker from the machines/cables it felt alot better @fierce elm

[fickle forge]

This is the real first world problem

It's never a 1 RM, it's 1.5 RM

[rancid granite]

-power gamer
-has a realization he's not "achieving anything"
-concludes it's the games lack of rewards

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-cat-blinking-cat-funny-cat-funny-cat-blinking-gif-27202865

[urban skiff]

I only bench in rack now. It's great because safety bars suit my height perfectly for being able to bail safely in bottom but not affect lift normally

[fierce elm]

I dont use safety bars

If I cant lift it I deserve to die

[urban skiff]

Imagine if i had played that much. I don't think i've had that many arena queues in 20 years

[urban skiff]

I don't want my kids to find me dead so

[fierce elm]

Also, asked to engage in different type of content

cant wait to be forced to play EPIC BGS

for my WEEKLY PVP RENOWN

Also we removed the vault because everyone got tired of RNG gearing

[fierce elm]

yeah but imagine the SHAME

tbf I always ask for a spot

and I hate setting safeties up

[rancid granite]

imagine if those people spent half that energy in a gym or art or something

[visual river]

Hi gents , wondering if there’s any haste breakpoints we need to hit for fury PvP or just gun all mastery where possible?
Also seeing most people only run 2 set?
Thanks

[fierce elm]

20% ish

We dont want 4 set as fury

[visual river]

20%ish means almost even split for mastery haste then ?

[fierce elm]

somewhat

[visual river]

Thank you, appreciated

[fickle forge]

Got kinda tired from reading all that

Holmes is not cooking

[urban skiff]

Imagine if i had gone that route instead of what fuckery i chose

[fickle forge]

I am not here to grind gear man

If it was up to me, we'd all be loading in in full BiS from day 1

[fierce elm]

Where battlepass

[fickle forge]

Can we get lootboxes in pvp already

[rancid granite]

the meaning in life comes from more rewards

and loot box gambling

[lavish quest]

Pvp rewards are kind of meh in fairness

[fickle forge]

I want less grind so I can actually play alts

I don't care for getting a gear upgrade, it means nothing man

[fierce elm]

MORE COSMETICS

[jovial torrent]

is a bit of a sad state its 10x faster going crate hunting for conq

[fickle forge]

That sounds like a skill issue

I wish they'd uncap conq a month into the season or so

[lavish quest]

I want to be conquest capped when I log in

Where's my universal conquest income?

It's not fun grinding pvp on alts to catch up on gear imo

[jovial torrent]

i think it maybe took me like 3 hours of crate farming to hit conq cap on new char

skips having to get honor gear and u end up with like 14k honor at the end too

[rancid granite]

bloody tokens is capped insanely quick with WQ/weeklies, conq not so bad

[jovial torrent]

u get 50 bloody tokens in each crate too

and 150 honor

• rare chance at a vicious stone

[rancid granite]

yeah my guild does crate runs its super quick

or just afk in hallowfall and grab a crate every 20mins is what i usually do lmao

[jovial torrent]

when the patch comes with bonus leveling im guna level a bunch of alliance alts to crate farm for 1800 mogs

[scenic oracle]

I havent done a proper bench in a long time cuz the bench press machines are just much easier to use, Id probably be hovering around 80kgs

Which for my bw and everything would still be good tho

Imagine not being tall, having a slim body and low bf% on top

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/chappo-gif-17063852136214627721

[fierce elm]

Tall and built like a shit brickhouse

is the goated

[scenic oracle]

haha

I like my body the way it is, shopping clothes is just ass as fuck

Because getting super slim fit clothing is hard

[jovial torrent]

i have pretty wide hips+ shoulders so i look bigger than alot of the guys who bench more than me, i try not to think about it lol, theres a guy whos like 145 pounds 5 ft 6 and does 3 plates

[scenic oracle]

mhm

On the super flat bench press machine I put 40kg of plates on each side on top of the base weight of like idk 10kg or so

Which is more than some bigger looking dudes use

But my gym is wild, so many roids users

And spotting a beginner is almost impossible lol

[jovial torrent]

im in a pretty small town so its actually a really good mix, honestly some days i go in theres more women than men there so all the upper machines are free

[scenic oracle]

Anytime I wanna do back everyones doing back

[jovial torrent]

theres a few guys who i suspect are using but hard to say, cus they have that like johnny bravo look where they are spacemarines up top and some twigs come out of their shorts

[scenic oracle]

Sounds pretty blatant to me

[elfin surge]

[scenic oracle]

Not like it matters

[jovial torrent]

yeh doesnt bother me, everyones super chill at my gym and talks ect, i think its whats helps me stick it out, kind of dont wana fail them after they say nice things

[scenic oracle]

I wish I had bit more motivation to care about diet

After my giga bulk attempts failed my motivation went down so much

4k kcal and nothing changed

[jovial torrent]

ive been just holding the same weight, i need to cut but i refuse to till i hit a 100kg bench

once i do i dont mind losing a little bit on bench while cutting

[scenic oracle]

Normal bench or rack

[jovial torrent]

just normal flat, i do it in the rack for safety bars

i bet i have to cut like 50 pounds to look 12% problem is i hold all my weight in the worst spots so i dont really gain much from being heavier, if anything i lose RoM on leg press

[scenic oracle]

12% is not a sweetspot imo

[jovial torrent]

im about 205 atm, i cut to 170 but i was still a bit fat around the stomach/hips, thooo that was like 4 months ago and my arms/back/legs are noticibly bigger

so maybe i would look good at 160/170 now

[scenic oracle]

what height?

[jovial torrent]

5;10

like 178cm

[scenic oracle]

170 should be good ye

[jovial torrent]

the only thing that makes me think id need to lose more is my wrists/ankles are super small so i bet my bone weight is kind of low

i wana go grab tape measure but i bet q will pop the second i leave chair

[scenic oracle]

same dude

Im sure Im just overthinking about my wrists but man

[jovial torrent]

we may be crap for powerlifting but alteast we dont have to try as hard for ppl to say we have big arms

[lavish quest]

As long as you bench two burgers you're good

[jovial torrent]

cheese dip curls

i do wonder if 100kg is a mental block for me, and once i hit that il jump up another 5-10kg really fast

[fierce elm]

Most likely

[lavish quest]

Shift your focus to 105

Ez

[jovial torrent]

trueee, i tried to trick myself a bit, i got to 110kg on the machine press, on my regular flat i always fail at the last like 10-20%

[scenic oracle]

I mean, it depends

For lower weightclasses Id be pretty good I think

I was thinking about competing in a national competition someday

Strict curls or some shit

[urban skiff]

Conq could be better. Bloody tokens could be worse.

Just let us convert extra bloody tokens to conq

[copper fox]

LIFT WEIGHTS

[copper fox]

It’s probably not mental

Mental is cope I use to do the same stuff

[rancid granite]

these days far easier than its ever been but its neeeever good enough!

[copper fox]

Agreed give me gear templates now

[rancid granite]

i just wanna reset and start over so i can fury like a dork

(then end up saying i wish i was arms, a never ending cycle)

[copper fox]

Why not make a second warrior?

[rancid granite]

that idea is weird to me i'd never

i put a lot of work into my char lol

[copper fox]

So just make a second for fury PvP only?

lol

[rancid granite]

then there's no attatchement to the char

[fierce elm]

second warrior disgusting

[rancid granite]

and no point cause its not my main warrior

i still play for the RP too lol

[jovial torrent]

ive got a drakthyr one i kind of wana level/gear for fun, just to punt ppl off LM in bg blitz

or punt ppl around pillars

[rancid granite]

i got my bank filled with collectables; lot of quests and achievements done, etc

alts are fine just not same class

[green wharf]

most people who do pvp dont care about that

otherwise no one would play gnome

[rancid granite]

i understand it though

[fierce elm]

I would just race change my main character

in that case

[rancid granite]

thats why the chads on murlok are the few non gnomes

[jovial torrent]

me play orc zug zug

[copper fox]

Ah ok

Hey hey

I’m a dragon

[rancid granite]

Methyltren is dracthyr, rank #8 fury

[copper fox]

Fk the gnomes

[rancid granite]

CHADYLTREN

[copper fox]

RANK 8 WTF

[fierce elm]

you fell off man

[copper fox]

Bro I’m 7

Don’t scare me

[jovial torrent]

phew got mm to 1800, that was miserable against some comps

[rancid granite]

bitter immunity player

it shows #8 for me lmao

[fierce elm]

'

fell off

[copper fox]

Oh

Murloc

[rancid granite]

how do you get by with 0% haste fury

[copper fox]

EU

I’m looking at the NA ladder (real ladder)

[fierce elm]

WE LOOK AT WORLDWIDE RANKINGS OVER HERe

[copper fox]

Raw power

[rancid granite]

power aint coming from gems

thats for sure

too busy zugging to get sockets

[jovial torrent]

i ran low haste fury, felt fine tbh

especially good on thane

[copper fox]

I have too many alts

lol

Can’t full socket anyone rip

[jovial torrent]

i feel u

got war hunt sham monk pala 1800 sets so far

probs mage or priest next

[green wharf]

the lizard girrafe you mean

[jovial torrent]

im honestly not a huuuge fan of the rogue set but i feel like i have to get it just cus the elite colour is so good

[green wharf]

rogue set is very lame imo

dont dig this pirate stuff

[jovial torrent]

yeh im not into pirate/outlaw stuff either, its just the perfect like spirit blue glow that u cant get from pve

im torn on the dk set, i like it but the pvp colour is kind of meh compared to the pve classic black/red

[urban skiff]

The dk set goes well with so many transmogs it's almost wild

[fierce elm]

Thankfully the legs are for everyone

[worldly oriole]

need ques more than ever lads

[copper fox]

Gotta hit that 1600 for your catalyst right Tony

[scenic oracle]

Read through the pvp reddit for the first time and people are something else over there

"Getting to 1800 in SS / blitz is pure rng lol"

"warrior is braindead op rn 2.4 means nothing lol"

[spice hornet]

That Reddit is horrible

Don’t go there

[scenic oracle]

Lots of salty 1600 dads ig

[spice hornet]

Yes it is

It’s mainly solo q players / noobs

Easily 90%+

[scenic oracle]

Im mainly playing soloq atm too

And when I lose I know I must have fucked up really badly

[spice hornet]

Just non stop blitz 2.4K posts with 0 rating in every other bracket

So terrible not sure why mods don’t ban those threads

[scenic oracle]

I wanna do proper 2s / 3s but none of my friends want to heal and I cba playing with a stranger

[spice hornet]

You should. It’s not hard to click sign up and q

[copper fox]

Yea plenty of ppl have gotten high rating in lfg

[elfin surge]

Carry them to victory

[scenic oracle]

Do people invite arms in lfg tho

Feels like lots of people are stuck on fury being the op spec

[fierce elm]

yes

[rancid granite]

your friends were strangers at one point too

you could always make new friends.. :)

[scenic oracle]

fair point

[wheat jay]

Sometimes friends become strangers 😦

Like when my shit friends didnt wsnt to play with my dh

@fickle forge fuck you

I hold grudge

[elfin surge]

yeah true fk u @fickle forge

[hasty pulsar]

which one of you whispered me this

[worldly oriole]

im multi 1600. just in one season @copper fox

[wheat jay]

Mud would 100% play with my dh

Mud is a true homie

But on wrong continent

[fickle forge]

Shut the fuck up, I Q'd loads with your DH on my DK

[fierce elm]

@fickle forge is a lil bitch

[wheat jay]

All I see is "no i wont q my warr with your dh"

[copper fox]

Mud only plays tsg like a real man

[elfin surge]

[rancid granite]

karanze loves Q'ing loads

[wheat jay]

I was gonna make some evil comments to that

[fierce elm]

lies

[rancid granite]

i coulda done better but lol

[fierce elm]

all he does is stream boring ass 2s

and get bullied by his chat

[elfin surge]

LOL

[sharp meteor]

Bet he'd reroll fury gnome

also needing unholy buffies

[fierce elm]

AM I WRONG

[wheat jay]

Nah we need ww conduit nerfs

[rancid granite]

pea size level 12 poleaxe

[wheat jay]

And shadopan buffs

So i can do 6mil per tick fof

Monk was more fun last season

[rancid granite]

was there ever a time when monk picked up every mobility talent they have

[elfin surge]

we're all gnomes breh

[spice hornet]

Are you an e girl?

That’s the only way

[rancid granite]

chi torpedo with the double jump, and the kick stomp thing so epic

[wheat jay]

He already played kfc with me

[fierce elm]

Pictured: Monster Energy Kyle and Farmer Magnus

[elfin surge]

i break traps

[wheat jay]

True

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, even me.

[wheat jay]

He deliberately swaps to trrapped target

[elfin surge]

Need to mortal strike the healer thats trapped next to me

[elfin surge]

also HUH

[rancid granite]

monk mobility is more fun than rogues 4x grapplehook but idk how useful it all is in areans; though i think healers take chi torpedo / double jump n stuff

[wheat jay]

He hates ice so much he driinks warm white monsters

[wheat jay]

Heal?

[rancid granite]

this looks like the real kennie before a witch cast a spell on you turning you into a vulpera 😂 😂

[wheat jay]

Gaaytos

[rancid granite]

heal by punching people in the face

heal while punching people in the face

[wheat jay]

Meh

[sharp meteor]

This is old me.

[wheat jay]

Reject mist bullshit

Embrace punching

Conduit is this

[sharp meteor]

Back when orc was viable.

[rancid granite]

thats a huge change lol

unnatural 🙏

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/shangchi-ten-rings-simului-marvel-energy-gif-22662484

Whereas shadopan is this

https://tenor.com/view/mike-tyson-gif-13018578810667382308

[rancid granite]

i never goit to play shadopan surely it cant be that bad right now??

[elfin surge]

and now you're a furry?

[rancid granite]

he's proof there's hope for you too Mud

[sharp meteor]

That was always the case but I thought I had to play good races back when I was getting into the pvps.

Although I guess I kind of do.

[sharp meteor]

yeah need Mudpera

[elfin surge]

breh

[sharp meteor]

[wheat jay]

Compared to conduit it is

Overall still decent

Big consistent, lower burst

Overall lower dps sadly, especially aoe

[rancid granite]

is there any big difference in talents for it

ill try it out in bgs and such to see the playstyle

[wheat jay]

Small difference i guess

Rotation is smoother iml

Imo

I guess you can check my talents on checkpvp

Kungfuartji

They worked xD

Somewhat

[fierce elm]

why check the talents of a noob

[wheat jay]

Cuz noone else plays shadopan

He has noone else to check xD

[rancid granite]

h'what server

there's like 20 kungfuartji's somehow

lol

[worldly oriole]

conduit is a sick ability tho

you can pillar and pop out to one tap

[rancid granite]

burning legion artji i see

thanks ill try out your talent tree 🙏

[wheat jay]

Ye

[wheat jay]

Gaaaaaaay

Where punching

[wheat jay]

You can get like 300% more dmg to fof with 4set

And you do like 2-3mil per tick

[worldly oriole]

lol i got 2100 ez on windwalker and i didnt use clash once yet

wasnt on my bars til it happened to me

[wheat jay]

Shuffle?

[worldly oriole]

ye in shuff

[wheat jay]

Ye makes sense

Shuffle is easy

[worldly oriole]

i havent found teammates for real 3s yet

[wheat jay]

Understandable