pvp

[fierce elm]

then they requeue

[urban skiff]

let me dig up the screenshot

"click on cooldowns and people die" yeeess that's how it usually works

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

big words from a devoker

this post is literally about how it's harder to feel accomplished as a fury warrior because the community pretends that it's so easy anyone can do it

Yet apparently only 42 other people has done it in his region so not that easy

[copper fox]

NAh this guys a bum

This feels great

I love smashing warlocks at 2600

Free wins

And I’d love it at 1200 also with Tony pajamas

[urban skiff]

Man I just want to play enh uninterrupted

Like I spent 20 minutes yesterday hitting combat dummies because the rotation is so satisfying

[copper fox]

Just full send it don’t even have alts

[urban skiff]

let me hit players like that

[copper fox]

Press enh q every time you log in

Zero alt qs

[fierce elm]

If only #pvp could read

[urban skiff]

I'm learning about how to make WeakAuras so I can get info in a way my brain can absorb

[copper fox]

Lmfao

[fierce elm]

This stupid fucking gym refuses to accept my information

so I hjave to fucking go in during manned hours

so can't workout now but have to wait like 4 hours what the hell

[copper fox]

Oh huge

Just start doing push ups in the lobby

[urban skiff]

I'm iconic

[fierce elm]

Im not even THJERE

They have an online form

but this shit aint working BROTHER

Im boutta start tweaking

[copper fox]

Rip

[fierce elm]

Its either this gym or a pseudo-crossfit gym

[copper fox]

Gotta do what you gotta do

[fierce elm]

The pseudo-crossfit gym has mad wack vibes

[copper fox]

I believe it

[fierce elm]

Like everyone is there tryna 'compete' against each other or something

OH WELL, guess I will fucking wait

[copper fox]

Yea I wouldn’t lift in a CrossFit or pseudo CrossFit gym I’d just take it as a rest day lmao

Or wait the 4 hours

Yea

[fierce elm]

kek

My trial week is done at the crossfit gym

so I didn't sign up thankfully

[copper fox]

Good

[fierce elm]

There is however one real crossfit gym and it has MAD cult vibes

[fierce elm]

I wish I would gear my alts

Basically hit 2.4 on Warr then stopped lmao

Rogue has some gear now

[urban skiff]

the conq farm is what's stopping me tbh

I got the bloody tokens tier pieces, the heraldries

[fierce elm]

The BT farm is stopping me lmao

[urban skiff]

but farming honor to get conq is ugh

[urban skiff]

I get that done while levelling my alts

[fierce elm]

Also the fact that my Rogue is like 2.1k mmr in 2s

with no gear

does hurt

lmao

and I dont wanna solo shuffle on it

[scenic oracle]

is blitz mmr completely fucked in some way?

Im like only 11-5 but sitting on 2.3 lol

[wheat jay]

Yes

[urban skiff]

it swings massively atm

I started at 1300 and two losses took me under 1k on an alt

[bright kraken]

this frost mage died in opener 3 games

[fierce elm]

how the mighty have FALLEN

[bright kraken]

legit like it was just the mm soloing the frost mage

i didnteven TARGET them and they dead

[fierce elm]

he probably did

[scenic oracle]

Sounds like an MM thing to do

[urban skiff]

bm hunter s2 guide when

[bright kraken]

they were marks

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm is this bleedless?

[fierce elm]

pretty much

[bright kraken]

untalent mortal strike and bladestorm

deepwounds in a bleed

[urban skiff]

words too many letters

me no undo stand

famous people near me

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff

Green X's are flex points

You also only get one point in the one above avatar

You can decide on your own there

[urban skiff]

neat

[fierce elm]

Green checkmarks are talents you take

[scenic oracle]

What about the third point in the spec tree tho

[fierce elm]

Oh yeah good shout

forgot one

there you go

[urban skiff]

uh

[fierce elm]

God I hate doin this with pictures

Oh yeah you need bloodsurge for this to work lmao

funnily enough

this lil shitty talent

[urban skiff]

approval rate?

[fierce elm]

brother waht the fuck

ARE YOU DOING

[urban skiff]

I DON'T KNOW

[fierce elm]

THIS IS NOT WHAT I SHOWED

oh my god man

[urban skiff]

I'M WARRIOR I'M NOT GOOD WITH INSTRUCTIONS

also I think i have too few talents

[fierce elm]

YOU SEE HOW I MOVE THE FLEX POINTs

BUT DONT TAKE SEISMIC REVERB MAN

Also you are still specced intoi bloddletting

GODDAMN ZERCHER

[urban skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/shy-dog-dog-shy-dog-shoes-martian-shy-gif-1847379792495616229

[fierce elm]

Now dont touch the arms tree

you only touch the warrior tree

Where you HAVE Second Wind, Fast Footwork, Rumbling Earth and Concussive Blows as your flex points

[urban skiff]

only things i may touch

[fierce elm]

exactly

[urban skiff]

I can shift mastery into haste but I'm still undecided about staying arms or going back to fury

[bright kraken]

me too buddy

[urban skiff]

and just to be sure:

ms(no wounds)
sudden death procs
ms
overpower OVER POWERRRR
slam

[fierce elm]

Do you want the complicated run down or the easy run down

But that is pretty much it

There are some changes with the execute stacks

but I wouldnt think about it

Button lights up we hit the button

[urban skiff]

The one that that takes me to 1800 without having to think

[fierce elm]

yeah then hit w.e

MS - Exe - OP

boom boom done

[urban skiff]

right now my problem is that every lobby so far has contained frost mages so I spend a lot of time running from a to b

[fierce elm]

just dont hit frost mage

simple solution

for a simple problem

[rustic stag]

Are these talents for solo shuffle and Blitz? 😅

[fierce elm]

idk about Blitz

[urban skiff]

that's what I'm trying but then I get dudes spamming "WARR???" after every match

[fierce elm]

I dont play that

This is just a no-bleed build for SS

and 3s

and 2s

that actually has merit and works

I can't imagine there is much difference in blitz talents compared to SS talents

[bright kraken]

how do you play cauldron of carnage in a caster lobby

[fierce elm]

like every other lobby

[bright kraken]

i legit don't know how to play caster lobbies on cauldron of carnage

i can do it on any other map

but not cauldron

is that even te name

no

cage of carnage

[urban skiff]

make the fight happen at the ends instead of the mid

if thye try to pull back to mid, just still back off and recover cooldowns and build dampening

[stuck mulch]

on ur way to 6/6 game and the balance druid that is 1/6 leaves

classic

[urban skiff]

He still had another win in him

idk if I'm crazy but I feel like I can predict how the lobby is going to go from the results of the 2nd match

Can tell which healer and dps are just slightly worse so they're going to flub when paired up but they can still eke out wins when not together

[stuck mulch]

yeah sometimes u can see the healer dif pretty early

sscrewing around with fury again

alright start so far

[urban skiff]

Worst games of them all, are the ones where you try something radically different and don't spot the healer diff early, so you get 3 games feeling like you've made a huge mistake and then the next 3 you just blast right through

@fierce elm how low would radiant power weapon enchant have to be, before you considered dropping it for say a mastery proc?

[stuck mulch]

here i am running depths

[urban skiff]

what the fuck

[stuck mulch]

fun game

👨‍🦽

[urban skiff]

This is why my MMR is going down and I'm going to see a lot of 3-3 games

Daytime players are the worst 😦

start out by disarming the resto druid

keep them on their toes

now he knows I'm bad when i crit big he gonna be scared raichu face

[bright kraken]

my mmr

[urban skiff]

Wish I could have mage BM MM lobbies on my shaman lol

ez win

[fierce elm]

I aint swapping shit

I just run radiant

[urban skiff]

just a theoretical questoin

beause for my shaman, a mastery proc is +11% damage

[fierce elm]

No idea tbh

[urban skiff]

which seems like a LOT more

[fierce elm]

I just run this lmao

[urban skiff]

why are enchants so horrendously annoying to look up on Wowhead?

just end up in a circular logic thing where any keypress takes me to the recipe which then shows the enchant we apply to items

can't get to the actual proc so I can look up what the PPM is

[fierce elm]

This gym is already poggers

[fierce elm]

this is nerd stuff

I just use whatever the others use lmao

And I dont wanna run depths on arms

[urban skiff]

I still use the power one

I'm just starting to think, 2k mainstat vs 4k mastery

might literally be leaving free damage on the table

[vale field]

why do I see some warriors running the pve crafted everforged legplates? Is there a way to give them pvp ilvl?

[urban skiff]

yep

No other reason, other than that it's a bloody token level piece with crafted statspread (50/50) and customizeable stats

Once conq cap is lifted you're going to see some people replace that piece entirely with the conq equivalent and others won't bother for 100 mainstat and 15 secondary rating

[vale field]

what is the item that does that? I see the conq vendor has the varnish but it says it's for set pieces

[fierce elm]

Its not a pvp piece

its a high ilvl pve piece

[vale field]

ahh got it

since it's only 3 down from pvp i guess

[fierce elm]

You need crests for it, either by doing +8s or higher or duelist

[urban skiff]

made with these + crests from high level content

these dream lobbies for my shaman

[stuck mulch]

lfr raider

lets go

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm no bleeds is the superior build

[dawn girder]

Any1 got a link to a guide on what gear i should buy, i have no diea how all these systems work lol

[fierce elm]

You can pretty much buy everything

Conq is conq, bloody token is 3 ilvls below, honor is 13 ilvls below.

You catalyst gear to get tier pieces (google that one)

for you right now you only wanna catalyst Conquest pieces due to them being highest ilvl

[dawn girder]

Is there dissagrement as to weather hate or mastery is better? the top players seem to have diffrent priorities

[fierce elm]

Arms or Fury

is the big question

[dawn girder]

fury

[fierce elm]

generally aim for 20% haste then dump into mastery imo

[dawn girder]

nr 2 on the ladder has 15% haste, the rest have around 20 as u say tho

intresting it is so diffrent

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm

0-6 ret killing my momentum, could have gone 6-0 but he had to forget how to bubble

or bubble to dps i guess

[fierce elm]

it makes such a miniscule diff

Its all feelycraft

[dawn girder]

i see

ty for the answers ❤️

[fierce elm]

holy 370 rating gain

[urban skiff]

that good? was only a 4-2

Unless i 0-6 and 1-5 a bunch of times I'm going to be guaranteed 1800 right?

[fierce elm]

You skipped a bunch

so yeah

I went with the non-crossfit gym and its poggies

Also because the front desk let me train for free today

[urban skiff]

this has been my normal experience for as long as i've played shuffle

only TWW S2 I've had the weird stat where nothing made sense

[fierce elm]

Yeah, but if you time it just correctly you can skip 1400-1800 lmao

[urban skiff]

I just assumed I was lucky for the rest and reality sucked

[fierce elm]

which is amazing

[urban skiff]

that's why i'm deeply annoyed the paladin was an undergeared 0-6'er

restart queue or not

[rancid granite]

30min+

[urban skiff]

I gave up, decided it was a risky queue and bought Heroes of Might & Magic III

[fierce elm]

lmao nerd

just commit

[urban skiff]

also wife and kid got into another screaming match because apparently kid decided to become a teenager at age 6

[fierce elm]

oh that sounds great

[scenic oracle]

bruh

[urban skiff]

m8 it's blitz, you're one bad streak away from dropping your MMR to 1200 and then another good streak from hitting 3k mmr. Just don't look at it

[scenic oracle]

ye lmao

[urban skiff]

MMR can swing like 190 per game

[scenic oracle]

But a win is still only +35

Such a scam

[urban skiff]

That's how it works

Gain per win has been capped in arenas too since, I want to say Wrath?

[scenic oracle]

welp

13-5 now, 4 more wins for the illusion

Surely I will pull off 17-5

[fierce elm]

surely

[scenic oracle]

Arms just feels so much better in bgs

[urban skiff]

Arms feels better everywhere

[scenic oracle]

I was comparing to arenas

I feel way less useful there

[urban skiff]

after playing Annie Odyn's Fury in DF, current fury is completely unplayable to me

[scenic oracle]

Im an Arms otp so cant really say anything about fury

[scenic oracle]

facts

[stuck mulch]

can allways check murlok.io

[dawn girder]

Can any1 explain why the top people are using everforged pants and boots? that isnt pvp gear as far as i know

[fierce elm]

They can craft them to 675

If they run m+ keys above 8s or are above 2100 in any bracket

they can farm crests

I wouldnt bother because you can get full purple gear by now

[dawn girder]

I see

tyty

[frosty herald]

2set enough for fury? getting mixed ideas from murlok

[rancid granite]

yap

anyone going 4set prob did so cause they were arms too

[copper fox]

Just play chest and glove tier

[frosty herald]

tnx

[copper fox]

I need 1 more ss night like last night and I might take the # 1 spot for the first time ever lol

Have to work around 19 Flokks and a Laros

[urban skiff]

Daily reminder crit is not a bad stat, even if you have +50% crit chance

[fierce elm]

Laros is a mofo

[wheat jay]

Crit sucks

You wouldnt be getting big crits without big mastery

But no mastery means smaller crits

[fierce elm]

crit is not a bad stat

Because right now there are slots where you cant get haste or mastery

and people are giving up 10ilvls lmao

[green wharf]

game full of players

[urban skiff]

Almost like damage buckets in D4 and that this is exactly why crit isn't a BAD stat

But yeah, let's just perpetuate "crit sucks" because simple lies are easier than complicated truths 🙂

[hasty pulsar]

uhhh apparently like half of the top solo shuffle slayer arms warrs dont take rend? am i seeing this right on murlok?

is rend just not worth pressing anymore or wat

[sharp meteor]

pretty feeble global

and dang arms rly is more of a brainlet spec than fury now gg

[copper fox]

lol I said it yesterday when I made an arms

It’s hilarious

Without rend it’s a 2 button spec

[hasty pulsar]

thats wild never thought i would not press rend in my life

[sharp meteor]

every warr is like id never play fury bro i only play arms bro fury is an abomination bro

[fierce elm]

lmao

[sharp meteor]

and arms is just fury with fewer buttons and a good defensive

[copper fox]

Exactly

[sharp meteor]

why does skyhold restrict emojis i need to post a black hole brainlet wojak

[copper fox]

We need to protest and get emojis in here

[sharp meteor]

prot > fury >>> arms

[wheat jay]

Crit sucks

[green wharf]

when you did?

you always used tclap for it

[hasty pulsar]

lol

[green wharf]

[fickle forge]

Average furry take

[sharp meteor]

wym im right

[green wharf]

it feels to me fury have better defensives

[sharp meteor]

???

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-plan-coping-kid-the-kid-is-coping-gif-26280717

[green wharf]

i take the enraged regen than shit with a sword

[sharp meteor]

are u out of ur goddamn mind

[fickle forge]

Weakest arms main:

https://tenor.com/view/jay-cutler-pecho-chest-gym-gimnasio-gif-4909341495146286815

[sharp meteor]

shut

[fickle forge]

Strongest fury main:

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-fat-fat-gigachad-gigachad-fat-chad-fat-gif-25194162

[sharp meteor]

why is every warr so insecure

[green wharf]

i can solo people with fury and i cant with arms, so to me fury have better defensives

[fickle forge]

You wouldn't get it lil' bro

Go play prot warr

[sharp meteor]

I have more glads than you on both dps specs wtf

[fickle forge]

This a cooked take though

[copper fox]

@green wharf you’re fried brother

[fickle forge]

Ye go play prot warr man

Where the x10 prot warr glads huh?

[sharp meteor]

Actually gonna be 10x titles this season

[fickle forge]

Blizz has really cooked down specs in general though

[sharp meteor]

And glads now that I think about it

[fickle forge]

A lot of specs on the same class are basically the same

[urban skiff]

Do you really want that to happen?

[sharp meteor]

at least its kind of neat u can play all four hero talents

and both specs

[copper fox]

You guys realize arms will eventually have rend baked into an ability and will legitimately be the easiest spec in the game

[sharp meteor]

yuh legit

[fickle forge]

I mean yeah

[urban skiff]

already baked into ms under 35%

[fickle forge]

But that hinges entirely on tunning lmao

[sharp meteor]

not that pressin clap every 20 seconds was hard

[urban skiff]

pretty sure you don't even need to talent rend to get it

[green wharf]

i mean, its my experience, what can i do

[fickle forge]

Overnight they could buff colossus and we'd all dip the 3 other hero specs and Q that only

[sharp meteor]

there was a bug that'd cause bloodlettin to apply rend at 100% hp

idk what it was

[green wharf]

i mop everyone else with fury

with arms i get roasted

[sharp meteor]

idk how they buff colo without making ms or demolish 1 shot dorks

a few percent on the passive dmg increase or reduction

or ip buff might be aight

slayer output feels so nice

[fickle forge]

I don't think they need to

If you ask me, colo needs a rework

[green wharf]

how to fix colossus: delete demolish

[fickle forge]

Having a 50% dam buff locked behind a ramping mechanic is awkward

[copper fox]

Just make it so we can’t be ccd during demolish and we can move, like conduit

And it’s fine

[sharp meteor]

i figurd theyd make it like fyralath

just channeled bonks immune to cc

maybe make it stun? idk

[copper fox]

Stun might be too much

I think mimicking current conduit would be perfect

[fickle forge]

I'd rather they make it like New Moon

[green wharf]

i would rather if demolish was a charge ability like evoker breath

the more you charge bigger the slap

[urban skiff]

Keep the damage, make it act like execute when talented into executioner in shadowlands

So each strike you leap at your target

[copper fox]

This would be interesting

[urban skiff]

And the longer you move, the more damage you do

[fickle forge]

5 stacks -> New moon -> 5 stacks -> Half moon, and so forth

End it with the big bonk

[green wharf]

what

[fickle forge]

You don't know New Moon I take it

[copper fox]

I actually like that idea lol

I guess the only issue with that idea is the same issue with full moon

It’s way too telegraphed

[fickle forge]

Was one of @wheat jay's better ideas

[copper fox]

Otherwise it’s good

[fickle forge]

Current Demolish is also really telegraphed

[copper fox]

Ofc

[fickle forge]

Bro pressed WB into Shockwave, I wonder what he'll press next

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/balance-is-key-karate-kid-gif-21391852

[fickle forge]

[copper fox]

lol exactly

Or just be ww monks and press conduit wherever and whenever you want

Be invincible

[rancid granite]

with +100% ms to top it off

[fickle forge]

WW got it good this patch fr

Demolish pop is crazy af rn though

If you can pull it off

[green wharf]

obviously

[fickle forge]

Easily 7M+

Popped dumbo

[wheat jay]

Okay but where shadopan buffs

[copper fox]

They’re with the colo buffs

[fickle forge]

Go beat up Blizzard for it

[copper fox]

Waiting for next xpac

[fickle forge]

I'm hoping to see Echo lose next week as well

[rancid granite]

i was vs a 3 mage team a bit ago and went colossus so i could try to do big dam in the small window frame i had, going off what kennie said the other day

[fickle forge]

Would be funny if they don't get top 3

[rancid granite]

demo crit + ms crit + reset ms crit quickly won me the match

[fickle forge]

Colossus into mage is giga int

[copper fox]

I need a lontar W

[rancid granite]

^

[wheat jay]

I should

I'd still play if shadopan was meta

[rancid granite]

colossus big burst > cloth

[wheat jay]

Gotta hope for next patch i guess

[fickle forge]

If Lontar wins and Echo doesn't get top 3

I'd be laughing hard

[copper fox]

Same

[fickle forge]

Yeah but any mage will just press Blink on your go

[rancid granite]

have you tried MW yet; i wanna learn it but there's so many buttons

[wheat jay]

Im not gay

[rancid granite]

i had like a 3 second window where it was on cd

and they were cc'd

[fickle forge]

Diffed

I 1 tapped some 3.6k mage in S1, and that only ever worked once

[rancid granite]

feels like even with slayer mobi extra uptime i'd still get kited the same

[fickle forge]

The next game they were holding every button for it

[copper fox]

How funny would it be if they take away hero trees next xpac

[fickle forge]

Would be weird af

I want some spec identity back though

I can't tell the difference between the rogue specs anymore

[rancid granite]

isnt it what they do, give hella talents, then prune it, then give hella talents, then prune it

cause where the hell do they go from here?

[copper fox]

Yea but I think this hero thing is part of the “trilogy”

Unfortunately

[fickle forge]

It has spawned some cool shit though ngl

[copper fox]

I just wish demolish was better and I’d hate it less

[fickle forge]

Demolish def my favourite button, even if it's the clunkiest shit on the planet

[copper fox]

Slayer is just auto swings

[fickle forge]

A bunch of these hero specs are full auto mode

[copper fox]

I can press bladestorm every 3 seconds lol

Yea

[rancid granite]

it feels good to get off a good demolish setup

[fickle forge]

Farseer shams just be doing what they did before, but now daddy's next to them doing the same thing

[rancid granite]

thats what that worldofpvp post was about earlier i thought

guy went full auto zug and claimed it was boring; well at least demolish you gotta put some effort into it lol

[copper fox]

I’m probably going to play my arms solely as colo

[fickle forge]

Colossus def takes more brain than most melees rn

[green wharf]

hopefully they do

honestly, this shit is a balance nightmare

it have the same problems the artifacts had in legion

some classes gt banger specs

others get half asset, or just themed around one npc

hunter you either play sylvanas, night elf hunter or rexxar

and now, before pack leader was shit, and it had nothing

pack leader only in name

[fickle forge]

I'd say most classes got a W on their hero specs though

[rancid granite]

colossus still good

[ebon steeple]

Well from what I recall the hero talents system is a evergreen one so unless they change their minds. It's here to stay

[green wharf]

most classes got one win, and usually the rest is lame

[green wharf]

slayer is crap, cause they cant make it a proper blademaster, colosus have demolish, bad designed by default, only mountain thane was a massive win

[fickle forge]

I don't believe slayer is supposed to be blademaster though

Blademaster is a whole different class

[sharp meteor]

only bad thing about slayer is it makes colo bladestorm feel useless

er thane/colo

[green wharf]

It was supposed to be, but they said they "could not do it"

cause blademater have mirror image/windwalk as well

and they dont want to give that to warrior

[green wharf]

same class

[rancid granite]

whats mirror image/windwalk

hows blademaster different than slayer

[fickle forge]

Was a Warcraft 3 class

[fierce elm]

nerdterms

from lore-nerds

[fickle forge]

And blademasters were basically a warrior combined with a rogue and mage

Could go invisible and had mirror images

It's not at all what WoW's warrior is like

[sharp meteor]

basically stuff they couldnt give warr

[green wharf]

mages stole mirror image, and windwalk worked basically like a stealth

[green wharf]

no, they were just warriors

[fickle forge]

They really were not man

[green wharf]

rogues didnt exist in war 3 and mages didnt had mirror image

blademaster was also the prestige class for warriors of the horde in the rpg

[rancid granite]

i needa play the WC games; blademaster sounds neat

[green wharf]

gladiator was for alliance warriors

[fickle forge]

Warrior aligns way closer to mountain thane and tauren chieftan

[rancid granite]

slayer is just nerfed blademaster it sounds like though

[fickle forge]

Slayer and blademaster got nothing in common

[rancid granite]

blademasters aka ninja samurai

[fickle forge]

People just like to pair the two because warrior got Bladestorm from them

[green wharf]

yeah sure, just like warrior signature skill is literally blademaster ultimate

[fickle forge]

Yeah that signature skill was an arms warrior exclusive for a longass time dude

And has only for a very short time been extended to fury

[green wharf]

Blademasters are also warrior trainners

in the game

[green wharf]

so?

[fickle forge]

You got abilities like Thunder Clap and Shockwave which has been part of warrior for longer and as a class identity

Storm Bolt etc.

[green wharf]

fury was more like mountain king

arms was blademaster

[fickle forge]

Stop man

I cba

Some dude's wielding 2 weapons and you call it a fury spec

When their signature stuff was Avatar, Thunder Clap and Storm Bolt, all which have been warrior signature spells for forever

[green wharf]

ok, and?

[fickle forge]

So it aligns way more with that

Lmao

Wdym man

[green wharf]

warrior IS a mix of blademaster, tauren chieftain, mountain king and others like grunt and footman

[fickle forge]

There's nothing else to it

Blademasters are a meme and got split into 3 different classes in the end

It's goneso

Not coming around

[green wharf]

You realize that just because warrior get more skills from mountain king, does not mean they did not get anything from blademasters right

[fickle forge]

By this logic hunters should be casting Starfall as well, since Tyrande does and wields a bow

[green wharf]

tyrande is a priest not a hunter you dingus

priestess of the moon

[fickle forge]

Wields a bow

What's up now huh

Checkmate

[green wharf]

again, so?

[fickle forge]

Has Trueshot Aura

[green wharf]

anduin wears plate and he isnt a paladin

[fickle forge]

MM's main CD

So what now huh

We doneso here

[rancid granite]

this is such a nerdy topic and i love it

remasters the go-to way to play?

lol

[green wharf]

problem is karanze doesnt know the lore

[fickle forge]

Problem is that man's got ultra cooked takes

And I'm here to argue about it on the internet while I drink my coffee

[rancid granite]

love class lore this is why i loved legion

[exotic forge]

Legion was awesome

[sharp meteor]

it was aight towards the end if u didnt raid

[green wharf]

• The game tell us blademasters are warriors(by labeling then as warriors in multiple sources)
• the lore tell us blademasters are legendary warriors(warriors of the burning blade clan)
• Blademasters NPCs in the game are warrior trainers
• Blademaster npcs in the game say they are warriors and use other warrior skills like mortal strike and cleave
• Warriors have blademaster ultimate skill and the crit upgrade, making 2/4 skills

But somehow they arent, because tyrande have a bow

and i have cooked takes

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-meme-radar-gif-26497624

[green wharf]

Plus, the RPG also say blademasters are warriors

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-cope-harder-massive-cope-gif-25051955

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-aint-reading-all-that-im-happy-for-u-tho-or-sorry-that-happened-im-happy-for-you-thought-or-sorry-that-happened-gif-16532884834168127420

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/keep-telling-yourself-that-darling-captain-jack-sparrow-johnny-depp-gif-10233026

[exotic forge]

The RPG is not canon to the main game

[green wharf]

the events yeah, but the rest is fine

the rpg system had "prestige" classes, that was basically upgrading your current class to "elite"

horde warriors became blademasters

[exotic forge]

It's canon in its own continuity

[green wharf]

there is no continuity cause the game went in a different direction

and they never follow up from the rpg

they still take some bits of it to the main game

scavenge more or less

[fierce elm]

LMAO

Holy fuck that is a tilter

[copper fox]

I got 1 more sec I had to go back for these they were too good

[rancid granite]

alt tabbing to discord mid bladestorm is always peak too

or itching / drinking something

[green wharf]

'you are so luck you roll a warrior"

bro

[exotic forge]

I like seeing warlock players rage

[copper fox]

Same

[fierce elm]

He probs forgot about it 10 minutes later

lmao

[copper fox]

Ofc

[fierce elm]

hilarious though

I won't lie, I have said some stuff private kek

[exotic forge]

yeah I mean it's not like your class plays itself or is played by pets

but yeah fair do's

[fierce elm]

Excuse me, warrior two button rotation is mad HARD

[copper fox]

Zero warlocks or warriors did well in AWC. Just 2 useless classes hating on each other

[fierce elm]

yeah lmao

Warrior probs closer to AWC material than lock right now

[copper fox]

Wizk played aff feral and won a few games

lol

That’s the only comp that can win tho

As lock

Against literally anything

[green wharf]

warlock and war are my mains, first two classes i played love then

never played afflic, it feels dirty

[fierce elm]

Fury is S-tier in solo shuffle dont @ me

nerds

[copper fox]

I tell people it is all the time

Fury is the best ss spec in the game

[fierce elm]

it absolutely is

But we got goo goo gaa gaa people disagreeing

[green wharf]

wellllll

among the best sure

[copper fox]

Nah it is

[fierce elm]

It is

[green wharf]

but THE best

i doubt

[copper fox]

It’s THE best

[green wharf]

evokers exist

[copper fox]

If you die like a rat that’s on you

Evoker lol

[fierce elm]

evokers what the fuck

[copper fox]

Horrible ss spec

Dude I never see evokes

[green wharf]

i never seeing in my life an evoker go with more than 3 losses

[exotic forge]

Haven't seen a single evoker as of late

tbh

[green wharf]

good

[fierce elm]

I have seen 3 in total

[green wharf]

fuck em

[exotic forge]

I've only seen em below 2,1

so that's saying something

[copper fox]

As a fury warrior in ss you have no excuse to be doing less than 1 mill dps all game and if you die it’s because you omega tunneled

[fierce elm]

I got Fury as the best melee at least

[exotic forge]

fury pretty good

[fierce elm]

But I also haven't touched SS since getting tabard

[exotic forge]

Reck every 6 or 7 rampages

[copper fox]

Fury BM and frost mage imo best ss specs

[fierce elm]

Its probs Fury - BM - Frost Mage - DH - WW

tbh

[rancid granite]

i still wanna go back fury but i feel bad about my 4pc

its not optimal enough

[copper fox]

You can still play it

[copper fox]

I’d agree

After frost mage, most casters struggle hard in ss

Ele probably after frost since it doesn’t cast

[rancid granite]

but muh feels

my gear/stats feel great for arms

suboptimal gear/4pc fury > optimal gear arms?

[urban skiff]

Agility based

[copper fox]

I guess it depends on off pieces too

If you’re mega haste then fury is going to feel like shit

[rancid granite]

https://murlok.io/character/us/stormrage/aatos/pvp

👀

feet/legs not so ideal

or shoulders

[green wharf]

just because balance, they still have more str and str gain per level

[fierce elm]

Those are the feet we run

[copper fox]

Crit 🤢

[rancid granite]

so you think fury still S tier in my armor pieces? would you change ring/neck enchants

WWAD

what would afro do

[fierce elm]

Either this or wait another week to get conq boots lmao

and run honor boots

[rancid granite]

gonna be ~550 conq next week 😭

[fierce elm]

yeah so two weeks ke

k

christ

lmao

[rancid granite]

honor boots wouldnt be so bad

fking magnusz man

[fierce elm]

its 10 ilvls below BT

[copper fox]

Yea dude you fkd up

[fierce elm]

which means you are losing 10 ilvls of main stat and stam

[rancid granite]

im still having fun as arms but i do miss fury 😭

[fierce elm]

The haste enchants too

and the haste gem

oh no

[copper fox]

I personally wouldn’t play fury with that gear

[urban skiff]

upgrade medallion is +700 mainstat

[fierce elm]

I personally wouldn't care

[rancid granite]

my arms stat spread i feel great with

[fierce elm]

yes

its 700 main stat

doesn't make it less sadge

[rancid granite]

100% happy with this gear for arms lol

[copper fox]

Yea I’m a bum and care. If you don’t care go for it

[urban skiff]

All my gear is epic on my warrior, no exceptions

[fierce elm]

Tbf it doesnt matter in like what

2 weeks?

[copper fox]

Should be 2 weeks yea

[sharp meteor]

warrs nerfin themselves by playing half haste half vers

[fierce elm]

Oh yeah

I got that medallion too

I am so fucking dumb

Although I am arms

I also got ZERO SOCKETS

[sharp meteor]

sockies are like 300k now just sell the bloodstones

[fierce elm]

I started doing that

then had to gear rogue

These are socksts from early season+crafted cheese

[urban skiff]

378000 if you also craft neck and rings

[fierce elm]

Because I am not a tryhard about this

and just do w.e feels good

[urban skiff]

preach

someday I'll also be in the top50 without doing anything purposefully

[green wharf]

i turned the bots into tier set and got nice boots with haste and mastery

[copper fox]

At some point wow will be dead enough where everyone will be top 50. Your time will come

[fierce elm]

Dont have 5 charges

Brother bear

[green wharf]

pff, why would i play 4p

[fierce elm]

He has 4pc lmao

[green wharf]

sucks to be him then

[copper fox]

You did this for fury or arms

[exotic forge]

all these warrs stacking vers

[fierce elm]

Could do it for Fury I guess

[green wharf]

fury

im rocking 54% mastery and 27% verst

[exotic forge]

meanwhile, 20% haste, 20% mastery

squishy

[green wharf]

51 actually

[exotic forge]

but giga pumping

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-13399313231964052110

[fierce elm]

the fuck

[exotic forge]

I'M PUMPING

[copper fox]

That stat spread is not the move

You’re not pumping with 20% mastery lol

[fierce elm]

lmao

[rancid granite]

so what was your conclusion afro you think fury still better in my gear?

[copper fox]

No

[exotic forge]

arms btw

fury is a different story

[fierce elm]

I dont think it matters

[copper fox]

Pretend you cared for a second

Then respond

I think is what he’s asking

[green wharf]

arms need giga haste, fury wants giga mastery, playing the same gear will hurt one of then

thats why im waiting uncap to play arms

[sharp meteor]

Idk if arms needs giga haste.

Honestly feels like warrs stacking 30% haste are nerfing themselves.

by ignoring mastery

considering how haste works for melee specs in pvp

[rancid granite]

20-25% haste seems golden

[exotic forge]

I mean you want some haste (20% at least), but don't DR yourself by overstacking it

mastery is good for arms too but a lot of people tend to overlook it

[copper fox]

25% is a sweet spot for arms imo and it’s easy to get there

[exotic forge]

doesn't the DR start at 25% tho

[fierce elm]

no

[copper fox]

Yes but that doesn’t matter. It would only start to matter closer to 30%

[fierce elm]

Arms doesnt need gigahaste lmao

The only thing fucking running both is 4pc

because arms wants 4pc

[copper fox]

It’s true tho if you’re over 25% you’re absolutely nerfing yourself

[rancid granite]

the duality of man

[exotic forge]

You could be sitting at 15% haste as Arms and stack mastery instead

and fully depend on 4pc

and you'd be fine

[green wharf]

dunno, arms feels unplayable without at least 25%, so between that and 30% should be the spot

[copper fox]

@rancid granite

I just forced it is all

[rancid granite]

lolol

i also wanna go outlaw on rogue but i'd have to gimp myself slightly too

I HATE IT HERE

can't wait for stuff to uncap

guess it gives me time to hit 2.4k on arms/sub then

[copper fox]

Have you hit 2.4 on sub before?

Aren’t we all too old to be playing rogue (older than 20)

[rancid granite]

sub seems easier than warrior, less APM and everything

[copper fox]

Can’t be

[rancid granite]

ok new goal sub to 2.1k

[copper fox]

😂

[rancid granite]

1950 now

[bright kraken]

today i hit 400 honour levels ^~^

[sharp meteor]

beegly honors

[bright kraken]

why not dom to 2.1k

[copper fox]

I feel like I would suck at rogue idk

[sharp meteor]

i feel like warr to rogue feels awk cos u just send stuff

like just shoving dmg on cd

which is like okayish on outlaw i think?

[copper fox]

Yea exactly I’d have to think more

[sharp meteor]

assa just gets you killed

cos you get annoyed and vanish twice first minute and get smoked like a pikaboo viewer

[copper fox]

Lmfao yea that would be me

[sharp meteor]

feels fun brute forcing early games tho doing more dmg than entire lobby combined

[rancid granite]

sub just feels like arms with better avatar/cs idk

buffs up its just hitting OP/MS

at a very basic level lol

[green wharf]

rogue got so weird nowadays to me

[copper fox]

SP is a wild class ngl

[green wharf]

i just cant play around vanish

[sharp meteor]

i just forget i have two vanishes instead of dance now

[copper fox]

Your rotation is brain dead and it’s automatically 3 million dps with CDs

[sharp meteor]

so im like dance stun everybody

-pauses-

oh

[spice hornet]

zone into shuff. see this. what do?

[exotic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-beat-up-pogger-gif-22865694

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-dry-heave-vomit-gross-eww-gif-23254758

[bright kraken]

i think you target the priest

[exotic forge]

Abuse the double berserker rage

ofc

[cold dome]

lol

[exotic forge]

[bright kraken]

it actually is

second most free 1.8k set for me last season

you just pve on someone until it dies lol

[copper fox]

Priests thriving

[urban skiff]

is that a lot?

[copper fox]

It’s 3 mill to 3 targets in the game so yes lol

When SP pops everyone starts dying

[urban skiff]

not 3m to each though

[copper fox]

If you land your DPs correctly it’s close to it

Since every ability is basically AOE

For free

[copper fox]

Simply go priest ofc

[urban skiff]

pretty sure spriests don't even get 3m per target in pve

what makes it 3m in pvp?

[copper fox]

Alright let’s not get too fixated on the specific # I said.
Maybe there’s a 10% drop off per target during CDs

Point is. They melt teams. They are good. Das it

But

[urban skiff]

could you imagine if they gave them MS effects then lol

[copper fox]

They are my favorite spec to see as a fury warrior

[urban skiff]

that would be pretty wild

[bright kraken]

whats this

players above 2.4k in shuffle?

[bright kraken]

ww and fury up the top im dying

i actually hate going against those

[copper fox]

That’s 2.2

But yea same thing lol

I also hate going against ww this patch as a warrior

[bright kraken]

tell me you play fury without telling me you play fury

[copper fox]

My name says it all tbh

[lavish quest]

Fury go brrr

[copper fox]

I like to bench press what do you expect me to play? MAGE? PRIEST?

[bright kraken]

yeah but isn't arms alright into ww

just press parry and dstance ez

shockwave fear

ez

[sharp meteor]

idk if i'd call it favorable

[copper fox]

Arms is better into ww absolutely

It’s not favorable

[sharp meteor]

arms better than fury into ww tho for sure ye

fury into ww is miserable

[bright kraken]

ah

[urban skiff]

Does FoF parry shockwave?

[copper fox]

DK is the only melee I’m “okay” seeing as a fury warrior tbh

I chunk dks

[bright kraken]

yeah see as hunter im still trying to figure out how tf to kite against ww

[urban skiff]

what's wrong with enh?

are we not good enough anymore to be free kills??

THE FUCK

[copper fox]

I don’t see them

LOL

[urban skiff]

That's right. @spice hornet

You don't see us coming

[fierce elm]

cant parry aoe

[copper fox]

I’m ngl I don’t even think you can unless your healer helps or dps peels

[urban skiff]

FoF can parry Sundering

Which is aoe

[bright kraken]

like i have

4 sec root*
3 sec disorient*
4 sec trap*
3 sec stun
3sec stun
8 sec 25% wall

[spice hornet]

enh/dk are my favorite to see in the arena as fury

[fierce elm]

the fuck lmao

[bright kraken]

i mean SEF is 15 sec only

[urban skiff]

is why I'm asking, it's super annoying

[fierce elm]

I mean, sorry

You cant parry stuns*

[bright kraken]

i usually have it far worse when wws use their SEF charges back to back

THEN im fucked

[spice hornet]

enh/dk/spriest/ele/

[copper fox]

I guess it’s map dependent too tho

[fierce elm]

CC I guess

[spice hornet]

maybe boomy, if theyre good then no. good boomy kite so well

[fierce elm]

But sundering should be coded as a cc no?

[copper fox]

I haven’t seen a boomy or enhance in weeks

[urban skiff]

Warrior not even in my top10 most dangerous matchups

[spice hornet]

well you are fighting comp stomp bots

thats why

[copper fox]

LOL

[urban skiff]

True

[sharp meteor]

arnet u playin enh 2s

[urban skiff]

yea

[sharp meteor]

cos ya warr beats that into a pulp

[sharp meteor]

[bright kraken]

@sharp meteor how much do i have to kite against fury to drop slaughterhouse

[sharp meteor]

its their whole kit not just slaughterhouse

[urban skiff]

gladiator

[fierce elm]

You cant kite that much lmao

[sharp meteor]

LMAO

1 glad probs unchained right

[copper fox]

Where the fk is the gladiator

[bright kraken]

well how long do i have to kite

[copper fox]

Tbc?

[urban skiff]

apparently legion?

[sharp meteor]

and fury is treated like old dh meta where u just stagger out cc/mobility/stops or w/e

[copper fox]

That’s a weird glad

[urban skiff]

How many gladiator titles do I have? oh right. 0

[sharp meteor]

idk if thats even washed mightve been like alli glad which had low cutoff idr

[fierce elm]

20s

[sharp meteor]

one legion glad is weird tho

[bright kraken]

oh that reminds me recently i saw a demonic gladiator stormdrake in a shuffle

[fierce elm]

Good luck brother

[bright kraken]

i was thinking like

HUH

[worldly oriole]

back in my prime i was farmin glads left and right

[fierce elm]

sure champ

[urban skiff]

Or maybe he's not a bad player and he still lost

🙂

[fierce elm]

Was that in your esports college where they gave you BJs after they found out you were a BfA glad

[worldly oriole]

rofl!!

[sharp meteor]

i mean i could beat frost hpal in 2s and its still massively unfavored

warr smashes enh

idk what u want me to say

[bright kraken]

hot

[copper fox]

@urban skiff ngl he bought that

[sharp meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/spray-bottle-cat-spray-bottle-spray-bottle-meme-tiktok-gif-25591053

[fierce elm]

Warr smashes enh

sorry Zercher

[sharp meteor]

that is such a lopsided matchup like its not even funny

[urban skiff]

I mean it's never not funny to start this drama

[fierce elm]

I gotta go with them on this one

lmao

[sharp meteor]

ill see one enh every 500 games and they try to 1 shot with a disc priest pi/darkarc

[urban skiff]

But really. Either it means i'm a waaaay better player than I am, or it means stomping enh requires specialized knowledge and class alone won't carry

[sharp meteor]

or saul playin with doritos

[urban skiff]

And I'm going to lean towards the 2nd one

[sharp meteor]

but double dps dead now

[copper fox]

@sharp meteor there’s no enhance in ss anymore at our mmr because bigdam is a bgb main now

[urban skiff]

maybe that's why they lose?

[sharp meteor]

ya bigdam is blitz main

[urban skiff]

I don't play a gimmicky 1shot build. I play a gimmicky whatthefuck build

[sharp meteor]

just gonna get r1 blitz on 28 chars

[copper fox]

Normal
Behavior ofc

[sharp meteor]

funny thing baout enh blitz is nobody plays it

last seas a random 1600 enh got r1

cos min 3 people for titles right

[copper fox]

Insane lol

Swole didn’t get it right

[sharp meteor]

nah LMAO

[copper fox]

He got passed by the 1600

Lmfaoooo

[sharp meteor]

he got usurped in the final days

then begged cs and community manager to dq him

[grim nova]

hey guys, i'm a bit confused on the right stat distribution for fury, i see in guides people say both some say mastery but some top wars on ladder (i.e magnuszx) are going full haste, can someone clarify ? new to pvp war

[sharp meteor]

fury wants mastery yuh

[fierce elm]

20% haste, dump rest into mastery (pvp stats not pve stats)

[sharp meteor]

lot of people playin arms with lots of haste too

[fierce elm]

Dont overcomplicate it

[sharp meteor]

idk if heavy haste is rly the play on warr tbh although it def feels better

[grim nova]

20% when outside or with pvp scaled gear

[fierce elm]

Read the entire sentence

[copper fox]

lol

[lavish quest]

Afro, spoon feed it to me pls

[urban skiff]

that's not true

[copper fox]

I too stop reading after 3 words. I’m a fury main it makes sense

[sharp meteor]

tis tho

even u culd get r1 in blitz if u cared

[urban skiff]

where's my R1 then

[sharp meteor]

80% was grinding cr

[copper fox]

@urban skiff yes it is

[bright kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/here-comes-the-airplane-ricky-berwick-therickyberwick-open-wide-heres-your-food-gif-27164906

[sharp meteor]

15% was qing at 2 am

5% is knowing how to play

[urban skiff]

why 2 am?

[sharp meteor]

cos u dodge normies

[copper fox]

Better people play the game

[sharp meteor]

and only get big games

[copper fox]

^

[urban skiff]

I didn't get R1 at 1600, I was 200+ spots away from it

[copper fox]

Easier 50/50 carry

[sharp meteor]

basically if im 3200 cr 3500 mmr and q at 8 pm on a wednesday

im gonna get a 2800-2900 mmr game

which blows my legs off

[copper fox]

You misunderstood what he said

He didn’t say someone got r1 at 1600

[sharp meteor]

nah im sayin a 1600 exp player got 3500 in blitz for title

cos blitz is mostly just pressing q

and ventually pressing q at the right time

[grim nova]

is there a way to know what are your pvp stats while in dorno?

[sharp meteor]

specs like demo aug enh arent contested

cos nobody tryna push 300 bg games on those

even specs like arms and fury dont have many good players

surprisingly

[copper fox]

Punch the pvp dummy

[lavish quest]

Math

[grim nova]

thx

[urban skiff]

why isn't this working for me then?

40+ games and barely broke 1800

[bright kraken]

@sharp meteor which map do you think is harder to play, cage of carnage or eye of the storm

[copper fox]

43 games played. That’s why

[lavish quest]

"U bad lul"

[copper fox]

He said 300 games

[sharp meteor]

i said 300 games

[sharp meteor]

eots tilts me cos every game is a throw or feed

[bright kraken]

oh yeah and be prepared to want to choke on a knife if you ever get 300 mmr below your cr

[sharp meteor]

wish it was just wsg and kotmogu and deephaul

ab and deepwind with 8 people are actually just stupid

[bright kraken]

okay

kotmogu

[urban skiff]

that's how my entire season started out playing with my wife

[bright kraken]

fuck you

[sharp meteor]

wow we got 2 rogues and 2 druids feed me my points

[bright kraken]

go die hole

[sharp meteor]

kotmogu goated map wym