we started at 1300
#pvp
copper fox
@sharp meteor you’re the topic of conversation in magnus stream stm lol
It’s entertaining
urban skiff
@fierce elm I got banned on the world of pvp discord i think
jovial torrent
didnt even realise they had a discord
urban skiff
It's unofficial
worldly oriole
sitting through 1300 games on bgb is cringe af haha
the enemy flag carry ran 2 flags back to back and i was the only person who even tried to do anything about it
urban skiff
does grounding totem need LoS to work?
urban skiff
low mmr blitz is an actual madhouse
Get low enough and they're bordering on impossible
sharp meteor
i walked to dr one eots at like 1400 mmr
and a disc and hunter were sitting it
and i just clicked the flag and got it
then the hunter shot me like 10 seconds later
copper fox
Lmao
boreal veldt
its so much worse than random bgs
people in there be yappin hoooly
sharp meteor
i tell myself i gotta chill q up and not care
then win 3 in a row and am so angy i dont q for the rest of the week
urban skiff
I'm not a fan afflic rdru right now
they don't feel good to fight
they die all the same but like in a really annoying way
grand echo
@urban skiff its a 50-50 at best
urban skiff
hotz n dotz
I want them to revamp the DR system
Sitting 3 fears into 3 cyclones and stuns in between and also roots and slows? Take it away
and make dampening reduce MS effects by the same % as healing done
green wharf
why not
boreal veldt
warrior players are all jacked and handsome
urban skiff
Who says we do
violet fossil
<a:huh:1072539415261499412>
I think this is the warlock player that was in dk cord
crying about dks
sharp meteor
Ah ye lock players (people who microwaved their hamster as a kid) are getting run over right now
violet fossil
deserved tbh
violet fossil
sharp meteor
Go back to spam losing shuffle at 1600 dawg
violet fossil
in what
rancid granite
wheat jay
Bench check
rancid granite
how many other class discords u think this guy went to to say the same thing?
wheat jay
Or be quiet
violet fossil
how many other class discords u think this guy went to to say the same thing?
he did the same in dk
wheat jay
Cap rogues lift 20kg at best, supported, in gear
rancid granite
he did the same in dk
LOL
sharp meteor
how many other class discords u think this guy went to to say the same thing?
He came into dk cord not too long ago
wailing about losing every game
boreal veldt
wheat jay
Relax rogue
Go do your 5head gameplay somewhere else
Now shoo
Why would you be perma banned?
You're just a nuisance, you don't curse or swear or spew racist remarks
Mosquito
boreal veldt
looking for a ban for the most milktoast trolling lol
rancid granite
they're supposed to work for the ban too like a real troll
guy can't even troll right
asking for hand outs
sharp meteor
ye? 
sharp meteor
with your chest lil bro
violet fossil
lol
wheat jay
Faser, you're a dumbass
wheat jay
What do you play then?
rancid granite
i wonder if Faser is in Nutrition's 3v3 group
violet fossil
he’s a lock main
green wharf
dude have anime avatar
wheat jay
Lock?
green wharf
from a videogame
wheat jay
Sheesh
green wharf
why you guys are giving him time
wheat jay
Why not
violet fossil
he came crying in the dk cord
wheat jay
Entertainment
stable briar
ty
rancid granite
dude have anime avatar
zidane is like good guy wholesome vibes too; you'd expect him to have like a Joker pfp instead wth
stable briar
have a nice day pvp chaps
wheat jay
You too habibi
sharp meteor
have a nice day pvp chaps
❤️
rancid granite
@stable briar while you're here can you enable emoji reactions pls
green wharf
there is no nice day in pvp 
wheat jay
Oof
boreal veldt
lmfao aatos
wheat jay
there is no nice day in pvp <:madox:1326474049903398975>
You just have to W harder
rancid granite
we all deserve the emojis
green wharf
even winning isnt nice
you win with hatred
and fury
unless you are evoker and paladin, so that must be nice playing with half a brain
lmao, did someones aw what he posted on the dk discord
it was either him or someone he knows, cause perfect timing
violet fossil
lmao, did someones aw what he posted on the dk discord
way earlier?
green wharf
no right now
violet fossil
I didn’t see lol
green wharf
dude straight up posted bestiality there
violet fossil
wtf
green wharf
but mods were quick
rancid granite
some people cant handle videogames man
spice hornet
Dk players
green wharf
i dunno if it ws the same guy, but it was very coincidental
boreal veldt
1400 yapper
wheat jay
dude straight up posted bestiality there
Most sane caster player 
copper fox
Fk what did I miss
Wait his name was faser
That dude is the worst he’s in the lock disc too
sharp meteor
wheat jay
That dude is the worst he’s in the lock disc too
What a surprise
robust hearth
<@144859308557860864> I got banned on the world of pvp discord i think
There's a world of pvp discord!?!?! 
spice hornet
Oh god, is there?
That subreddit is genuinely horrible
It’s filled with absolute morons
I’d say it’s like 98% blitz players flexing 2.4K blitz achieves, 1% shuffle players, and then 1% actual good players
Someone made a shadowy duel thread when it got removed. Someone posted “rogue needs compensation if duel is gonna be removed” and I replied “no it doesn’t, rogue has the best kit in the game” and receieved 40 downvotes for that comment
frank knoll
I got banned from the rogue disc for saying that on there
rancid granite
I’d say it’s like 98% blitz players flexing 2.4K blitz achieves, 1% shuffle play...
i wonder how many actually play the game lol
seems like 90% of the comments are just 'dont play, give up, quit, i did'
limber relic
picture this
worldly oriole
bfa was like 13 years ago now guise. let that one sink in
green wharf
copper fox
Tony pajamas prime
spice hornet
Tony pajamas prime
You think todays knee day for
Him?
copper fox
3x a week ofc
rancid granite
picture this
amazing
honest sundial
warrior players 🐒
sharp meteor
warrior players 🐒
Hiiiiii. 
spice hornet
*Hiiiiii*. <:catman:769917539835969587>
What Kennie up to
sharp meteor
What Kennie up to
Keys and baldos gate 3 
Getting angry about pvp comes in a few weeks.
green wharf
https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-hmm-glare-gif-16222799
this is deeply disturbing cause his iris are from different sizes
boreal veldt
rip
honest sundial
*Hiiiiii*. <:catman:769917539835969587>
😍
robust hearth
picture this
Nice mount bro, the server won't let me say the c word
robust hearth
im about to play overwatch
Eeew don't play tht trash game, play marvel rivals like a real 
violet fossil
@rancid granite that warlock guy posted something weird as shit on dk discord and got gifs turned off lol
and I can’t post memes either
well anything*
fierce elm
lmao
copper fox
I set up an arms warrior
The rotation is
Funny
As a fury main pressing 3 buttons and the occasional 4th I find these 2 buttons with the occasional 3rd to be exhilarating
urban skiff
oh yeah
copper fox
Never touch it again
urban skiff
Too late
copper fox
Damn
fierce elm
what the hell
urban skiff
My arms season is going well
fierce elm
As a fury main pressing 3 buttons and the occasional 4th I find these 2 buttons ...
Blow your mind when hitting slam
In the one time it does happen where OP isnt reset, MS on CD, raw execute not worth hitting except to maybe reset OP
fierce elm
My arms season is going well
same tbh
Though I guess your well and my well is different
urban skiff
My 2nd shuffle had a healer diff so ridiculous I was nowhere near winning at any point
And I was stuck with the bad healer for the first three rounds and felt so bad about how hard it was to do anything that I was about to just give up entirely
Then finally got to swap healers and got my 3 wins
copper fox
Am I really hitting slam or are we trolling
urban skiff
But not even having a chance to go 4-2 or better is just ugly
fierce elm
Am I really hitting slam or are we trolling
Sometimes
Like very rarely imo
I dont think its worth dumping 40 rage into execute thst has no amplifiers
but thats me
I do sometimes just say fuck it and hit execute anyways
Muscle memory is a bitch
fierce elm
Try the no bleeds build
or rather the rendless build
You take out thunderclap, rend and bloodletting
copper fox
Hmm ok I’ll do that
fierce elm
Ima try it next time because I keep forgetting to hit TC
copper fox
lol yea that would be me regularly
fierce elm
Laros runs it so fuck it
Its basically the same build except with fatality
and two flex talent points
improved sweeping etc
copper fox
I like it… I know rend CAN tick hard but also is 50k ish even hard anymore
fierce elm
Also fatality execute dopamine go dummy hard
fierce elm
The only ”bad” thing is that you are losing SOME healing
not a ton
but some
due to not having bloodletting on deep wounds and that affecting deep wounds healing a bit
viscid ridge
Try the no bleeds build
Is this linked somewhere? looking at laros on murlok and can't see it and seen it pop up a few times in here
I'm a brainlet when it comes to pressing TC so wouldnt mind giving it a spin
viscid ridge
actually looks buriful
green wharf
Is he doing for memes or it is actually functional
cause i would 100% use it
an asharan with not a single mage, what is this
viscid ridge
cause i would 100% use it
Gave it a slang on the dummy, absolutely truck with spear down on the execute phase
fierce elm
Is he doing for memes or it is actually functional
functional
urban skiff
Try the no bleeds build
Sounds like the stupid thing i would benefit from playing
fierce elm
Sounds like the stupid thing i would benefit from playing
yeah but
its not a meme. build
urban skiff
yeah but
its not a meme. build
Oh shit, what do i do then? It's not... mEtA right? Eww
urban skiff
Ehhh.. maybe i can pretend its not though
Like arms isn't meta and its not really meta to play no bleeds either
I've been thinking about how to present info in a way i can use it.
Had my first game last night where we lost specifically because i didn't have info on whether enemy team had a new fear ready yet or not.
And i finally had the time and ability to look over other stuff on my screen for any hints
So i think i'm ready to add that info to my ui.
I think i want like omnibar to show fears and stuff tremor removes, next to a big icon that shows my tremor CD as well as fear DRs.
So like a cluster of useful info for that one decision.
Same with grounding and coil.
Static: charge/leap/gateway etc.
urban skiff
Maybe a purge button that glows when target has high desire purgeable stuff like freedom, alter time, hand of protection, PI
urban skiff
why am i put into a lobby 50 mmr below me
Kings have to defend their throne. World Champion can only face people below them.
This is a great honor and you should be proud.
Or queens, idk how you identify
bright kraken
Kings have to defend their throne. World Champion can only face people below the...
Literally my first game was a 4-2 at 2300 mmr
urban skiff
Do queens defend their throne? Eh, maybe like a queen widower who killed her husband and now has an iron grip on monarchy
bright kraken
Then a healer diff so 3-3
Then that fucking shit
Oh and I lost mmr because the healer diff lobby was 20 below me
bright kraken
like if at least it felt like my fault i'd be fine
but it's a fire mage
and this enhance shaman is doing 50% of their dps to the warrior
with the hpriest on the mage's side also
not the rdru
can the game just
not queue me up if the mmr is that fucked
i was under 100 from 2.4k
fierce elm
Like arms isn't meta and its not really meta to play no bleeds either
Arms is A tier though
fierce elm
why am i put into a lobby 50 mmr below me
Because that is how the system works
bright kraken
Because that is how the system works
i'd rather just not get queued for another hour straight up
urban skiff
and this enhance shaman is doing 50% of their dps to the warrior
What build is he?
fierce elm
It has a very broad range once you get to a very miniscule % of people
bright kraken
What build is he?
what builds are there
urban skiff
what builds are there
Lash with totemic
Stormbringer ascendance with dogs
Stormbringer ascendance, no dogs but peestorm
fierce elm
Also going 1-5 eesh
urban skiff
The first two are meta. The last one is fun, fast, and ridiculous if you aren't careful around them
bright kraken
Lash with totemic
Stormbringer ascendance with dogs
Stormbringer ascendance, n...
i have no clue how to tell
fierce elm
Dogs or no dogs
fierce elm
them dawgs
urban skiff
Dogs or no dogs
They techbically all have dogs. stormbringer summons dogs when using tempest
fierce elm
Them dawgs
urban skiff
Since damage was low i assume it wasn't the peestorm ascendance
fierce elm
Anyways yeah, that is how it works at upper % of playerbase
Howevee going 1-5 is wild regardless
urban skiff
Howevee going 1-5 is wild regardless
Sheesh. I do that all the time
green wharf
urban skiff
https://tenor.com/view/delusion-delusional-youre-delusional-get-him-outta-here-l...
Oh yeah, go Team 0-6
robust hearth
You???
limber relic
Nice mount bro, the server won't let me say the c word
Ty lol
boreal veldt
https://murlok.io/character/us/illidan/dadslapper/pvp
i run a similar build on slayer but i opt for fervor/cleave not because i use cleave much but it's there in 2tar if ss is down, bleed feels bad on slayer so it's w/e
onyx burrow
Guys, is this gem viable for PVP?
I have a hard time keeping chase against ranged enemies, i thought it could help a bit
Whats ur thoughts??
sharp meteor
Ya ms is rky good on warr
onyx burrow
Ya ms is rky good on warr
rky?
fierce elm
How do people deal with these queue times
You do something else during it
scenic oracle
I just want the elite set but feels like Im a billion times better off queueing with random healers for 2s
onyx burrow
oh got it, ty
onyx burrow
How do people deal with these queue times
Any queue time on PVP is ass right now
Blizzard dont make PVP worth the time investment for players, i needs better rewards
Also the skill gap is insane. Too much to learn and keep up.
If we look at plunderstorm, its a PVP activity, but much more casual and less time consuming.
A lot of cosmetic rewards for players, and progression felt good even when losing.
Also you didnt have to be a pro to enjoy plunderstorm
Blizzard needs to learn from it to improve PVP somehow.
fierce elm
Any queue time on PVP is ass right now
Oh definitely not
Battlegrounds pop off
QUEUE time for 2s and 3s is low as hell
its blitz and ss thats suffering
onyx burrow
I humbly disagree
fierce elm
its blitz and ss thats suffering
weird
onyx burrow
23min should not be a waiting time on a game labeled as "MMO"
onyx burrow
That doesnt help either tbh
fierce elm
and clearly they aren't listening
It absolutely helps to paly a healer lmao
you get sub 2 min queues constantly
fickle forge
Any queue time on PVP is ass right now
Except actual arena
fierce elm
Picks a popular DPS spec, complain about queues
refuses to go healer that can balance out the queues
fickle forge
Idk why ya'll complaining about Q times, my Rsham has a pop within 5 sec every time
fierce elm
It just is what it is honestly
fickle forge
onyx burrow
I legit wonder if there is any way for players to make blizzard improve on PVP
fierce elm
no
fickle forge
Yes
onyx burrow
because i noticed this for a long time, only people that really care about PVP play it
fickle forge
Go healer
fierce elm
so we can just halt this discussion right here lmao
onyx burrow
thats sad tho
scenic oracle
because i noticed this for a long time, only people that really care about PVP p...
And only people that really care about PVE play it, how weird
fickle forge
Just the way PvP is
fierce elm
The fact is that WoW is mostly a casual game for most people
rancid granite
remember when playing videogames were a reward in themselves
fierce elm
and PvP is far from casual
fickle forge
But again, go Q 2s or 3s and you have an active game
grizzled anvil
People that play pvp consistently at this point probably represent about 2-5% of the player base, that’s including non rated game modes. People don’t stick with pvp because the reward structure is more effort than any other game mode for less reward, and people get discouraged because too few are playing so you get matched with someone like me who has been doing arena since 2008
fickle forge
That simple
fickle forge
PvP is also hard af yeah
onyx burrow
And only people that really care about PVE play it, how weird
That's because people feel like PVE is rewarding their time investment, and thats horrible because the M+ community is toxic as hell
rancid granite
And people dont like **hard** things
i heard you do
scenic oracle
Any game community is toxic when theres some rating or whatever on the line
fickle forge
Either way though, if you want short Q times, go play 3s, 2s or make a healer
rancid granite
whats with gamers needing rewards so much
fickle forge
whats with gamers needing rewards so much
Makes me wanna hit a rating goal
grizzled anvil
Because gamers have been through multiple financial crises and need dopamine to ignore bills
fierce elm
whats with gamers needing rewards so much
Gonna clarify this real quicik
onyx burrow
I see WoW PVP with the same eyes i see fighting games. People had trouble entering the fighting game world because it was hard and difficult to learn.
But that changed along the years with developers making it more accessible and rewarding players.
rancid granite
Makes me wanna hit a rating goal
rating goal / climbing a ladder is different than 'rewards' people talk about
fierce elm
Whats with gamers needing easy rewards
fickle forge
rating goal / climbing a ladder is different than 'rewards' people talk about
Such as what
fierce elm
I see WoW PVP with the same eyes i see fighting games. People had trouble enteri...
because its the same
its hard to enter
rancid granite
its like 'hey wanna play street fighter?' 'what do i get from it? what rewards is there for playing it?'
and i go
?_?
fierce elm
People don't want to get assblasted for multiple games
Its especially hard for healer
grizzled anvil
The only people who pvp now are the people that got gaped early in pvp and decided to stick with it
fierce elm
in terms of any pvp game I have played, fighters etc, WoW is absurdly difficult to enter
fickle forge
its like 'hey wanna play street fighter?' 'what do i get from it? what rewards i...
WoW isn't the same though
rancid granite
i mean, kinda??
if you put in extra rewards then you get people who hate pvp, pvping for 'rewards'
fickle forge
I'm out here getting 80 levels, gear, reading a 3rd party source on how to spec my class, creating macros and getting addons before I can even Q up and play evenly
rancid granite
yeah but playing pvp is reward in itself, its a video game, and competitive mode
'wanna throw the frisbee?' 'idk, what do we get from it?'
fickle forge
Sick bro, but I also like to compete for rewards
If I just wanted to chill and enjoy, I'd lay down and play Skyrim
fickle forge
When I compete, I want my drake so I can gloat
fickle forge
fuck you mean we chill and enjoy
I chill with friends yeah
grizzled anvil
A lot of the hate for pvp comes from fomo, people see how hard it is and how cool rewards like the sets are and vilify it - the challenge is the big part of the reward but that’s ignored in general because of the fomo nature of limited rewards and what is either entitled behavior or jealousy or demotivation
fickle forge
That takes time and effort
Which I don't have
And I already established with ya'll in SL lmao
fierce elm
However, blizzard can make some very simple implements to help SS
however it fucking kills 3s if they do it
rancid granite
A lot of the hate for pvp comes from fomo, people see how hard it is and how coo...
people want free easy shit and had challenges/competition lol
fierce elm
Personally, personally I enjoy when 3s is deflated as fuck and you get to face competent players at 2k
rancid granite
if they just give rewards to everyone then they kinda aren't rewards at all
fierce elm
sure, you can get the rewards in SS For 10% of the effort
but facing someone who is clearly better than you and winning is a dopamine hit
fickle forge
Personally, *personally* I enjoy when 3s is deflated as fuck and you get to face...
That has nothing to do with it though
If ladder is inflated we're just facing them at 3k
worldly oriole
YA finding teammates is aids
fierce elm
If ladder is inflated we're just facing them at 3k
yeah but that is different
I like struggling for rewards
I enjoy struggling versus people and making rewards feel meaningful
I am a sadistic fuck that want to waddle through multi r1s to get 1400
rancid granite
but what about my gold medal for being 1600 thats not very fair is it?
fickle forge
I am a sadistic fuck that want to waddle through multi r1s to get 1400
And yet you QUIT when we were sadistically banging Snowmixy for our turbo glad
fickle forge
And Mvq
fierce elm
lmao
urban skiff
People that play pvp consistently at this point probably represent about 2-5% of...
Fact:
There are more players on roleplaying realms than there are pvp'ers. We're a disproportionately represented playstyle.
worldly oriole
this reminds me of getting my first 2700 off cdew
scenic oracle
cdew pepelaugh
fickle forge
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worldly oriole
lmao !!
copper fox
Tony pajamas went from playing chun to being the defender of the 1200 bracket
Impressive aging skills
onyx burrow
Noob question: why i get in matches with people with a shitton of rating?
copper fox
Idk about that
worldly oriole
ill see yall at lan
onyx burrow
weird
copper fox
Normal
fickle forge
Noob question: why i get in matches with people with a shitton of rating?
Placements
dark topaz
So gang, is this a fury season or do we have an arms angle (haven't pvp'd in s2 at all)
onyx burrow
So gang, is this a fury season or do we have an arms angle (haven't pvp'd in s2 ...
I heard both specs are doing pretty well
fierce elm
both are doing well
onyx burrow
i decided to go arms tho
fierce elm
Fury is doing better
dark topaz
better or better better?
fierce elm
Better
scenic oracle
Am I better off using my mostly 678 pve gear for 4p or using 665 pvp gear for the extra vers
fierce elm
Am I better off using my mostly 678 pve gear for 4p or using 665 pvp gear for th...
678 for 4pc
rustic stag
Silly question: Which embellishment is this? Is it Elemental Focusing Lens?
urban skiff
Silly question: Which embellishment is this? Is it Elemental Focusing Lens?
yes
remember it doesn't work if you don't have at least one coloured gem socketed somewhere
diamond doesn't count
rustic stag
remember it doesn't work if you don't have at least one coloured gem socketed so...
So would this work?
urban skiff
yes
The gem colour doesn't matter, whatever element it is, isn't affected by any modifiers
rustic stag
The gem colour doesn't matter, whatever element it is, isn't affected by any mod...
Also do you put the "Elemental Focusing Lens" on both the items? or 1x Lens 1x something else?
rustic stag
You're a legend, thank you! ❤️
scenic oracle
Just played with a dev in SS that seemed like he never stopped bursting ever what the fuck
And sticking to a dev seems a bit annoying
fickle forge
Enjoy bro
scenic oracle
I enjoyed my 5-1 yes
urban skiff
Just played with a dev in SS that seemed like he never stopped bursting ever wha...
that's a healer check, just keep zerging
urban skiff
Roughly 1-3% damage buff over full fights and way more during burst
fun times ahead
bright kraken
could tonight be the night
spice hornet
you can get it next lobby going 4-2 or 3-3 depending on the mmr
its free
@copper fox Me and @worldly oriole are training knees this morning, you wanna work in?
he's loading up the squat bar rn with 4 plate
worldly oriole
IM LOADING UP 4PPS (PLATES PER SIDE) to do my knee bends
sorry caps. playing mage rn and caps is bound to blink
solo shuffle is so demoralizing sometimes just got a healer with 500 games at 1500 cr
idk why he would keep quing that haha
bright kraken
its so weird
like 2.1-2.3 was honestly harder than 2.3+
im not even trapping healer that often, it's like once or twice a round if at all now
legit half of these lobbies i'm playing survival like i'm playing warrior
fierce elm
Yeah, being top 20 on your spec is pretty easy tbh
sharp meteor
Yeah, being top 20 on your spec is pretty easy tbh
i mean it can be yuh
fierce elm
I mean survival has 20 players so I guess so lmao
sharp meteor
lot of specs very uncompetitive esp early
sharp meteor
tis
fierce elm
The average player is not touching 2.4 rn
Even an above average player
(Not talking blitz here)
worldly oriole
2.4 would be easy. if i didnt get 1500 healers on my way there
fierce elm
yeah sure tonypajams
fierce elm
its not
By the standards of an average wow player
or even an above average wow player
bright kraken
YOU FUCKING ASSES
sharp meteor
keep pushin u doin good
bright kraken
fierce elm
lmao
bright kraken
i still have no clue if 2.4k is hard or not
sharp meteor
people who havent gotten glad since sl will say that it is
dawn girder
Yo, can any1 tell me where i can find the best current pvp build for warr right now?
dawn girder
tyty
rancid granite
if i can get 2395 in s1 then 2.4k is not hard
fierce elm
if i can get 2395 in s1 then 2.4k is not hard
lmao
wheat jay
i still have no clue if 2.4k is hard or not
easy
you suck
why is it taking you so long?
bright kraken
link your glad
when was your last glad
fucking bfa?
that's even worse than sl glad man
fierce elm
you sure did champ
copper fox
Tony
Please
This has to stop
Normally like the new fotm guys troll for a day or 2
Yours has been going on too long
wheat jay
that's even worse than sl glad man
sl
sharp meteor
unchained was the true test of skill
(top 12,000 on a ladder of like 30,000 people)
copper fox
It’s fine you can go 2-4 and get it next game
urban skiff
Even an *above* average player
what rating would average hit?
Because I feel very below average but then I'm also top 5-9% on my shaman in shuffle right now and I feel like I'm fighting people who are very dedicated shaman players for those spots.
sharp meteor
2400 
sharp meteor
avg is so useless cos 90% of people play 1-2 shuffles for conq for rando bgs
copper fox
Most people can’t press their dmg rotation fast enough to be 2.4
onyx burrow
It’s fine you can go 2-4 and get it next game
You were right
got Rival
im happy
rival in one day of pvping feels good
scenic oracle
Thats where most people get stuck tho
onyx burrow
Also why the fuck i ended up with 3 warriors on my solo shuffle?
onde dude was a Single Minded Fury player
urban skiff
avg is so useless cos 90% of people play 1-2 shuffles for conq for rando bgs
So median then
Why don't the players who play 1-2 games count though?
sharp meteor
useless and not real
lavish quest
What if I grind 4k shuffles and end up stuck 1700?
scenic oracle
Waht is actually the play vs ww
urban skiff
useless and not real
So how many games do you need to play to be part of the average?
onyx burrow
lmao i know its out of topic but i guess im lucky today
Got the baldies mount and rival in the same day
spice hornet
Reapmon
urban skiff
why
urban skiff
Lucky I don't have to listen to your whining after i murder you, you mean?
spice hornet
That 1 shot build only works on comp stomp bots
urban skiff
<@205395474784583681> what’s a typical Danish brekky
Rundstykker with Morgenkager, Juice, Kakaomælk, ost
urban skiff
That 1 shot build only works on comp stomp bots
what 1-shot build?
I'm playing this because I get to use damage all the time instead of waiting for ascendance 🙂
spice hornet
Something is telling me that build isn’t right. Can’t quite put my finger on it
urban skiff
ok so i was goiing to prove there's no 1-shot but then apparently I did like 10m damage in the last 2 seconds of this druid's life
ok that was just a fluke
hmm
no cooldowns up for that final hit, nothing at all modifying my damage.
maybe it's all the dogs modifying my damage?
spice hornet
I’ll need to run the numbers
urban skiff
or legacy of the frost witch and elemental assault?
I could drop peestorm and instantly gain another +20% damage done to every stormstrike I cast
If I drop peewave too I could also instantly add another 10% per dog
ok so maybe the players were just bad.
Nop, they've all been higher rated than I have ever been in my life
sharp meteor
ya thats bad
urban skiff
ya thats bad
I'm not saying I'm good
I'm just saying it's not a 1-shot build that relies on a thousand cooldowns and stacked conditions
urban skiff
I'm a nightmare
but only in the sense that you don't want me as your partner
🙂
Why do warriors have so low damage though
grand scaffold
Warriors don't have low damage they just don't have any without uptine
urban skiff
NDOGO
grand scaffold
What's up man
urban skiff
I'm playing SMF THANE
grand scaffold
Lmfao
urban skiff
check how fucking bad I am at this game and people still lose to me
grand scaffold
What the heck
Bro send me some gameplay I could make you get 2100 fast
Probably just minor mistakes
urban skiff
Probably just minor mistakes
probably massive mistakes lol
grand scaffold
Just send the gameplay
urban skiff
Like I play without looking at DRs and I don't track enemy cooldowns offensives/defensives
grand scaffold
Why
urban skiff
I have gladius
grand scaffold
Wrong addon
urban skiff
from an old skillcapped import
urban skiff
I mean I think this has a DR tracker but someone asked when I linked a screenshot why it overlaps with the entire bar and that's when I realized I spend 0 time looking at gladius at all
grand scaffold
Brev just get gladiusex
And omnicd
And plater
Or some type of nameplate add-on with big debuffs if you don't want to use plater
bright kraken
urban skiff
And plater
I have omnicd
i have better blizz plates
bright kraken
Why was the ret going BM all game and not sub
Why was the sub going ret all game and not bm
copper fox
Rip the hunter you beat this morning got the elite before you
bright kraken
Why was the BM going ret all game and not sub
bright kraken
Rip the hunter you beat this morning got the elite before you
I was one win off 2400
I was 2378
Why? Because I don't fucking know kill targetting
urban skiff
Or some type of nameplate add-on with big debuffs if you don't want to use plate...
tbh my issue is maybe a little bit of not having knowledge about what's going on while it's happening, but mostly it's about how I have no consciousness behind any decisionmaking I do.
I'll just do what feels right in the moment and end up where I end up
mostly that's in the garbage
rancid granite
pure instinct
urban skiff
pure instinct
Some people read up on every single boss and reads all the tactics and guides before going into the boss room in Dark Souls / Elden Ring.
I don't even look up that stuff after beating the bosses.
rancid granite
same for the most part lol
fierce elm
Why was the BM going ret all game and not sub
ret dies easier
urban skiff
Why does ret die easier
ret don't run
fierce elm
Imagine
chasing a hunter that runs away with ret freedom + own freedom
along with having sac
bop
lay
all available as tools to spend on him
aswell as his own walls, heals and turtle
copper fox
You 100% kill ret there yea
fierce elm
Now, imagine chasing a ret standing still in your face
lavish quest
Ndogo exists?
fierce elm
that can't sac
can't bop really due to forbearance
with one of the worst walls in the game
bright kraken
I thought it was 40% on a 1min cd
sharp meteor
rdruid walks up to try to clone gets beaten wiht a tire iron
fierce elm
I hope this answered your questions lmao
lavish quest
Worked in my last double dk ret lobby, has to work all the time
sharp meteor
also wish more people hit hpals
wheat jay
lmao
bright kraken
lmao
Do you have a spreadsheet for kill targetting
Or something
I'm struggling in these lobbies with just. Similar/difficult kill priorities
rancid granite
Do you have a spreadsheet for kill targetting
fierce elm
This is also an iffy list
I would 100% train Fury tbh
Also the only reason why you wouldnt train ret is if there is a DPS that needs to get shut down by pressure
fickle forge
Ret copers
rancid granite
ive seen an occasional ret that is like extra durable so i just #nope out rest of the match
urban skiff
Do you have a spreadsheet for kill targetting
Read the pins!!
rancid granite
also training a balance druid seems harder than mages to me
urban skiff
also training a balance druid seems harder than mages to me
They're the same as mages. the good ones you cannot touch
sharp meteor
They're the same as mages. the good ones you cannot touch
good ones are rly high mmr
cos gotta maintain pressure while absorbing it
pressing travel form and running away ints the game cos no counterpressure
urban skiff
good ones are rly high mmr
And they all teleport right up there immediately upon season start.
spice hornet
Maybe a weird thing to complain about but I find the fact that pressing barrier removed all snares a bit op. Always rogues and mages having these small weird game changing nuances
urban skiff
Tbh i should have said blink instead of teleport
sharp meteor
i was like 2700 last seas and started 2300 or 2400 i think this seas
people play a few games and mmr go up
man playing first games with no gaer feels so bad
urban skiff
Maybe a weird thing to complain about but I find the fact that pressing barrier ...
I just want root/snare breaks to provide a few seconds of immunity
wheat jay
Do you have a spreadsheet for kill targetting
i dont even play this game anymore
sharp meteor
fickle forge
I'm struggling in these lobbies with just. Similar/difficult kill priorities
Step 1 is to not follow what skill capped has to say outright and apply some logic
You're 12k arena games in now, you have an idea of what dies and what needs to be shut down
frank knoll
You guys ever do Delves
frank knoll
Yeah I sit in queue in the background doing homework
I haven’t done a single delve
I don’t know what the point is
Seems like just another Torghast type thing
frank knoll
If there’s cool transmog and stuff from it id be interested
fickle forge
Delves are apparently some people's main content
sharp meteor
You guys ever do Delves
frank knoll
How long does it take to do one of those
rancid granite
Yeah I sit in queue in the background doing homework
I haven’t done a single del...
fun / good ilvl pve gear / crests
fickle forge
Blizzard could add fun in the description of anything and Aatos would play it
rancid granite
good warmup/practice for new chars/specs 100%
sharp meteor
Delves are kind of dull but I'm afk constantly and can't do blitz/shuff sometimes so
rancid granite
Blizzard could add fun in the description of anything and Aatos would play it
bruh the guy was asking what the point was and there's no point to video games other than fun
urban skiff
bruh the guy was asking what the point was and there's no point to video games o...
Truth
worldly oriole
I THINK i need to do delves for my pve gearing on my toons
urban skiff
I would do delves but i literally fall asleep at the keyboard and then my wife yells at me to stop strafing left.
rancid granite
pretty sure the classic wow box said the word 'fun' on there somewhere too
delves are when i read my talents
i learned all about prot and the talents doing underpin
t11's can be difficult though it really helps teach you your keybinds and limits
fickle forge
bruh the guy was asking what the point was and there's no point to video games o...
Aatos would eat a crayon box if it said on the side it's for fun
fickle forge
I only take the red ones
rancid granite
i grew up on the epic 80s/90s commercials everything was peak advertising then
spice hornet
@sharp meteor which people in here are actually above like, 1800 mmr in 3s ON A WARRIOR besides like you, mud
fickle forge
<@129440991294783488> which people in here are actually above like, 1800 mmr in ...
Hi
sharp meteor
there's that one eu feller erm
methyltren and
seifcham
man scrolled up for like 4 mins to find the pfp i recognized cos i couldnt remember the name
copper fox
lol
copper fox
<@129440991294783488> which people in here are actually above like, 1800 mmr in ...
Im like 2.3 mmr in 3s atm. 2111cr
spice hornet
Oh yes you are good. Meant to type your name
Seifcham is brute force I almost can’t count him
I will tho
sharp meteor
is that the dwarf
ebon steeple
I was like 2132 something now around 2098 cr and my mmr need to check again but if I'm running into Xeek and Dopamine guess somewhat high
sharp meteor
are u the dorf
ebon steeple
Yeeee
sharp meteor
hell ya
ebon steeple
Urdem, was rank 2 in rss too but went down
ebon steeple
Byte ayeeee
sharp meteor
yeee
ebon steeple
Chill guy and a great healer
scenic oracle
soz for noob question but is there any point to stick on a frostmage as war
Its not like impossible to keep up but its so annoying
rancid granite
is that the dwarf
sharp meteor
it reduces their pressure but if they can press everythin defensively ur kind of in a rough spot
sharp meteor
nah i meant urdem who was typin
rancid granite
o
lavish quest
I rarely go fmage as war
rancid granite
that image just stuck in my head still lol
fun fact if seifcham and his mount had a baby kennie would pop out
scenic oracle
So I guess if I encounter something like ret fmage in SS I should rather go ret
Assuming the healer is not a wheelchair
sharp meteor
i feel like u usually gotta walk at frost mage regardless
but often kill their partner
just kind of depends
nightmare scenario is the frost mage just presses every single button defensively cos rly hard to pressure that
scenic oracle
mhm
I mean Im not at a good rating rn cuz I just started playing SS after a long time of not playing pvp, and I wasnt even a dps back then
So not like these people are good
Only spec I really feel helpless against is ww
sharp meteor
ya fof parry is brutal
scenic oracle
Their damage is brutal
ebon steeple
ww does just melt fury sadly
scenic oracle
Im Arms 
sharp meteor
ya in general ww kind of owns fury
arms less so
idk if id really call it favorable but its certainly quite a bit less bad
scenic oracle
Its like, I dont pay attention for a second and he bursts me from 100 to 10 in a second
ebon steeple
Have to say the arms build that doesn't require rend or thunder clap feels nice
sharp meteor
yeah man hitting ret is as kill check
spice hornet
Have to say the arms build that doesn't require rend or thunder clap feels nice
Rend is an awful button. Needs to just apply from MS
urban skiff
yeah man hitting ret is as kill check
skillcheck just means you have to recognize if it's good to train them or neutral.
They removed the "Bad to train" category
wheat jay
Show dmg spread
wheat jay
Why are we back to this Soulscar cringe
Ye but soulscar isnt rly automatic now, they have to press it
scenic oracle
lmfao
green wharf
Bg is indeed a meme bracket
wheat jay
How is that dmg surprising in any way?
green wharf
how the fuck do you dont know which tower is to go in a 2k match
wheat jay
No shot bro, is a melee cleave stacked???
Ok but why are you surprised with the damage
Its dh perma cleaving you
fickle forge
Ok but why are you surprised with the damage
Because it's double everyone else's???
wheat jay
CUZ ITS TWO TARGETS AND YOU'RE HITTING ONE
wheat jay
Ah yes surely you did permament double or triple cleave into hpala deva dh
Stop the cap man
🧢
fickle forge
You're smoking the big grass if you think it's fine for a spec to do double damage
wheat jay
You were charging left and right trying to get uptime
Meanwhile dh, who afaik is s tier, did perma cleave
fickle forge
Huh???
wheat jay
Like why are you surprised at the dmg?
wheat jay
So did yours then
fickle forge
He's doing double everyone else's dam lil' bro
spice hornet
why u guys beefin
fickle forge
Cause Artji is having an Artji moment
wheat jay
Cuz you're stupid kargish
You got perma cleaved by a dh
Of course hes gonna top dps xD
I'd be surprised if he didnt
fickle forge
I'm really glad you're able to view my entire game from a damage breakdown brother
wheat jay
Going by what you said
And by logic
Logic says you had average at best uptime
Cuz of hpala deva dh
Dh had 100% uptime cuz its dh
fickle forge
Literally what makes you say that
When my breakdown shows I am almost even between all three targets
I got a DK bro
I am always hitting something
wheat jay
I am always hitting something
I see what youre facing i say cap
You ain't hitting shit xD
wheat jay
I know you well enough to tell that, ye
wheat jay
Who died then?
Dk
fickle forge
I know you well enough to tell that, ye
Turns out not
Kind of stings my heart you know
My homie doesn't know me that well
wheat jay
Lmao
You always train drake
Cuz you hate it
And you want to kill it every single time
fickle forge
And I almost did
wheat jay
I know you better than you know yourself
wheat jay
And I almost did
SEE
fickle forge
But the Hpala can't ride free rating anymore, so we went him and won
fickle forge
But like my DK is death striking all game
fickle forge
y he deathstriking
Cause he's getting completely ran through by this DH doing double everyone else's dam
violet fossil
normal dh behavior
green wharf
deal more damage than everyone else, heal to full with each eyebean
seems balanced to me
frank knoll
I’m might roll a DH
Looks fun
Rn playing mage, arcane is actually the best mage spec on the gameplay scale. Frostfire is just spamming frost bolt
rancid granite
is arcane as hard as people claim it is
I want to do a mage or hunter next patch with the quick leveling
get 1800 on a ranged for the exp sounds fun
bright kraken
why are pvpers so toxic
frank knoll
Naw it’s not
sharp meteor
Idk I prefer pvp toxicity to pve toxicity where everybody is fake.
verbal tangle
why are pvpers so toxic
why are pve'ers so shit at the game?
bright kraken
why are pve'ers so shit at the game?
i wonder that also
or are you saying im shit?
verbal tangle
or are you saying im shit?
yes
green wharf
pain
green wharf
is arcane as hard as people claim it is
mage is easy, you just need to get used to blinking
verbal tangle
mage is easy, you just need to get used to blinking
"I'm bout to be hit in melee!"
Blink
green wharf
i will lose next game for sure <:sadga:869134702970273812>
i got it 🧢
enough of warlock this season
green wharf
are you sure is crafted
worldly oriole
it says craft on the thing. I think in game it might be fortune crafted
sharp meteor
how do I make the 675ilvl crafted items I see people using on murlok.io
Gilded crests which is from duelist rank wins or pve
sharp meteor
are you sure is crafted
Ye, but it has fallen off as we have a lot more conq/tokens now
basically don't bother at this point
green wharf
Ye, but it has fallen off as we have a lot more conq/tokens now
kennie is there like a weakaura for prot, that turn the screen red when you have all stacks of violent outburst?
copper fox
I’m still using 675 belt on my lock with haste vers… has probably 3-4 more weeks of being bis
urban skiff
Ye, but it has fallen off as we have a lot more conq/tokens now
also can't use pvp sockets on them
but that's a detail now
sharp meteor
bloodstones are for selling
spice hornet
Actuslly dumb what their cost is considering the power gain
urban skiff
Actuslly dumb what their cost is considering the power gain
naaaaaaaaah
Just casually playing I've made like 200k gold after getting the sockets i wanted
equip 1-2 sockets depending on spec and leave the rest for late season
sell all bloodstones -> save the gold for buying late season
spice hornet
I blame elemental focusing lens making you have a socket
And the Meta gem
Bet if neither of those existed vicious bloodstone would be like 1k
urban skiff
Maybe
that's still 1/9 and 2/9 sockets
The reason is all the tryhards who try to absolutely maximize everything they do.
Which is fine, they probably more successful than me and I'm only buying sockets on some characters
If I want to play a shockadin in 2v2, what are my top 3 partner choices?
copper fox
Just went 6-0 in a lobby with maldiva. Saw his name so I opened his stream and he was shit talking me the whole time it was hilarious.
He was like, “how do they let fury warrior do this, imagine I was fighting a good one” as I 6-0 the lobby lol
Ofc dropped that since he was yapping
Lobby was ele mm aff… everything felt squishy to me when I hit it
Easy lobby tbh. You put 1 melee in that and it’s 10x harder
fierce elm
”Wow players try not to cope after losing challenge IMPOSSIBLE”
copper fox
Real
fierce elm
”Bro they suck” as they lost
”1200 ass warrior” as they lost
”So lucky” as they lost
copper fox
Oh I also only 6-0d because it was black rook
Easy uptime on that map it’s so small
But ofc he doesn’t calculate anything besides “oh look he spears my port, warrior brain”
“Lucky reflect on coil” meanwhile I predicted it
lol
urban skiff
”Bro they suck” as they lost
”1200 ass warrior” as they lost
”So lucky” as they ...
I just want to know how apparently warrior is sooo easy but i still just get crushed whenever I play
Clearly some base level is required to play that nobody acknowledges
fierce elm
I just want to know how apparently warrior is sooo easy but i still just get cru...
WoW players are wild
they can never accept a loss generally
"OH MY GOD ITS SO BORING" is also a funny one
urban skiff
they can never accept a loss generally
case in point, the guy who was raging at me that enh is so easy