Same ilev so it's a matter of stats and if you think tier bonus is worth.
#pvp
sharp meteor
winged wadi
Okay thank you
jovial torrent
start filling in stuff like belt bracers boots cloak with bloody tokens from world quests/sparks quest
sand sundial
The average random wow player is so removed from how most of the content is supposed to be played it's crazy
urban skiff
heads up for using m+ gear in pvp: You can't use pvp gems in it
rancid granite
The average random wow player is so removed from how most of the content is supp...
id say that in reverse
average wow content is so removed from the random wow player
but it encourages communication and stuff which is nice
spice hornet
I think fury is still better than arms unfortunately
Just due to what comps are out there these days
Awc all fury, yesterday queueing 3s at 2300mmr no warriors except 1 other who was also fury
sand sundial
average wow content is so removed from the random wow player
I didn't want to straight up say average wow player fucking sucks
verbal tangle
I'm happy that they're happy, wow should be for everyone
it's for everyone because the bar is on the floor
spice hornet
lock players my man
verbal tangle
lock players my man
locks aren't people lmao
sharp meteor
The keister weisterer.
spice hornet
hes still going off in my dms
saying a wow dev plays fury
i wish a wow dev played fury. he must be confusing it with rogue/mage
elfin surge
lock players my man
LOL voidchaos
spice hornet
@elfin surge lmao I got him in shuffle again
see if he rages after this one
needa lock in
sharp meteor
saying a wow dev plays fury
He's correct.
sand sundial
lock players my man
Ain't nobody reading that essay
spice hornet
@elfin surge he's not happy this one
elfin surge
LOL
dense herald
lock players my man
Wasnt a lock but i remember an outlaw rogue flaming me saying i was boosted when i beat him in 2s in sl s4
Like bro youre playing the best spec in the game and you lost against a class you counter
spice hornet
lmao, and outlaw rogue in sl s4 was DISGUSTING
especially in 2s. it was unkillable
basically had perma evasion
rancid granite
dense herald
basically had perma evasion
yea can either evasion or disarm ur every go
spice hornet
this made me chuckle hard . imagine joining that discord link, what would you hear...Gamer words I imagine
rancid granite
lmao
overwhelmingly dorky and nerdy
same energy as these mods who wont enable emoji reactions tbh
sharp meteor
Only the most skilled (and handsome) can get titles.
fierce elm
im like 2386 or something
fierce elm
I dont play Rivals
copper fox
@spice hornet holy shit dude lol
Funny thing tho that guys actually pretty good lol he’s regularly got multiple top 10 locks as destro
Never had a conversation with him tho but I always see him in shuffle on different locks
That’s insane lmfao
rancid granite
gotta be a lil off and crazy to achieve something like that right
a little envious of him myself
plush cairn
double it and give it to the next person
spice hornet
Funny thing tho that guys actually pretty good lol he’s regularly got multiple t...
He’s alright. I don’t think he plays that well though compared to other destro around his rating. He’s pretty easy to run down
For example both shuffle lobbies into him were on mubambala and he didn’t abuse the z axis gate/port once. Which is odd, every lock does that normally, also doesn’t cancel ruination which is a literal DPS loss lol, all destros just cancel aura it
copper fox
Interesting. I’ll have to pay more attention to that next time I see him.
You ever get into a game with tomwarlock? I almost cant win with that guy he’s been demo recently
stuck mulch
monka
stuck mulch
together they form one whole warrior
it was hell, the paladin healer was so ass
giga healer dif
ohwell, imm shelf the hunter for abit, got to 2100 im happy with that, time to get the set for DK
rancid granite
nice goal
2100 a solid goal
i hit 2100 on all my chars and all their specs for the most part so now i think ima just Q warr til i hit 2400
rancid granite
why the hell do i feel i do a lot more dmg as arms than fury
stuck mulch
why the hell do i feel i do a lot more dmg as arms than fury
bigger numbers on screen
copper fox
^
sharp meteor
Dmg profile lil different
although fury executes hitting for as much as they are
they aren't too far off
rancid granite
true
i played a ton of fury in tww so far but i go arms for like a week and fury's rhythm gets thrown off like i never played it before
spice hornet
same
violet fossil
Is there a fix to odyns fury not going off with my macro?
spice hornet
people are playing odyns?
sharp meteor
Is there a fix to odyns fury not going off with my macro?
have u tried not playing odyns
sharp meteor
people are playing odyns?
not since first month of forged lmao
spice hornet
not since first month of forged lmao
yeah blizz shot it in the head and curb stomped it
warrior participation dropped to the lowest immediately
sharp meteor
o ya it was so good in raids cos like
add spawn every odyns or ava, right, so it lined up perfectly
so they triple nerfed it and fury fell to lower than aug dmg
spice hornet
sharp meteor
current fury feels nice can play either tree and most non odyns talents in all forms of content
copper fox
i played a ton of fury in tww so far but i go arms for like a week and fury's rh...
Yea dude I’m old same thing happens to me
rancid granite
Yea dude I’m old same thing happens to me
its ok i decided to go back arms anyway 😭
spice hornet
the winning aesthetic
spice hornet
ill bother with arms again once they make csmash proc from MS like the shadowlands leggo, OR they make csmash a buff on the warrior not unique to the target you pressed it on.
rancid granite
sounds nice for sure lol
sharp meteor
Enduring blows my beloved.
spice hornet
just feel like theres a big reason we even seen all warrs in AWC fury*
arms damage can be avoided too easily
rancid granite
both specs too similar, one A+ one S
sounds logical to take fury
(yes skillcapped tier list is meta accept it)
lavish quest
Fury feels better tbh
lavish quest
Has been nice to play around with arms again, but fury feels better imo
Yeah I've been playing arms slayer. Just feels weird swapping from high apm fury to arms lol
spice hornet
i think fury has been good too long it rotted my brain
just feels better for me too
lavish quest
I don't think it's brain rot.
Fury buttons just feel better. Even your small buttons are nice because they're building towards your next big button (rampage)
Arms you just press MS then wait for it again. Sure you press op to fish for procs/buff it, but op feels like piss
Execute is doing some damage for the first time in what feels like years so that's nice at least
lavish quest
1, I don't think it hits that hard for me.
2, it's not all about the dmg. Even if it hits hard, it still feels like nothing. Not sure how to explain. Maybe I've just been too used to arms buttons blowing balls for far too long
Idk 🤷♂️
rancid granite
maybe
but i love that about wow pvp/wow players, always with the feel-craft
its fun lol
lavish quest
Like bt and rb don't hit hard but yet they still manage to feel good cause they juice me to my next rampage. Fury always go go go. Arms feels like you press your button and you're done for a few seconds till your next button
Maybe fury has brain rotted us. Dopamine rot lmao
vivid pumice
I think arms just lacks a big punchy button. That's why we all like colossus, demolish is so cool to press
sharp meteor
I executed a Rogue for 5 million a few days ago.
true tiger
spice hornet
I executed a Rogue for 5 million a few days ago.
I wish double warr was viable. Toni would be willing to queue if it was
sterile moth
Just had a WW, mage, ret lobby and got boxed around. Went 2-4 and had a healer call me an ineffective dps 😫
spice hornet
Warrior shuffle sucks
sterile moth
On my extra glass cannony fury war…20% haste 49% mastery
Monks are a complete joke though
spice hornet
Yeah ww is just a tankier fury warr
vivid pumice
discovering i'm either a terrible frost mage or a terrible warrior
doing games on my mage and i'm just getting eaten alive by warriors
spice hornet
just watch how mage streamers trade into warr
urban skiff
Doesn't make any sense though how much fun I'm having with enh in 2s
sharp meteor
Enh is always awful in 2s above chill cap mmr.
sharp meteor
It just passively loses to almost everything.
You'll see one every 500 games usually playing whatever flavor of 1 shot gimmick.
spice hornet
Ya lol 2s enh sucks
urban skiff
Ya lol 2s enh sucks
but it's fuuuuun
fickle forge
Would say sub is above the A+ specs as well
urban skiff
Would say sub is above the A+ specs as well
They stressed in the video that the higher you go on the list, the less counters the spec has
I assume by the pure nature of 2s being 2s
I still think enh is being underestimated and the upcoming buffs are going to make a big difference
fickle forge
I still think enh is being underestimated and the upcoming buffs are going to ma...
I think you are very very wrong and that enh will continue to be the 2nd worst 2s melee
urban skiff
wait which is worst?
obtuse igloo
Hi guys, just came back after 1 tear break. I am a bit overwhelmed of all the info and shit info out there.
I main and olay warr only always. Ussualy Fury in pve and Arms in PVP. Id Fury is viable in PVP, i preffer that.
Can anyone tell me what is the standing out spec for pvp bg s and arena s for fury and arma? Just to study something correct for a change. I pref slayer, is thane a thing? I checked general stuff already, but rely on you experts here for some feedback
urban skiff
murlok.io ->
click any, see what they're doing, use your pattern recognition skills to determine which you like more and go with the flow
sharp meteor
thane if cleavies otherwise slayer
oddly very few actual warriors who play blitz so
jovial torrent
if queues arent horrible i might do my 1800 on dk in blitz, just harrasing healer with grips/chains
stuck mulch
if queues arent horrible i might do my 1800 on dk in blitz, just harrasing heale...
pretty much it, grip, abom remorsless winter, frostwyrm etc
giga dmg
rancid granite
I forgot 2's existed.. it seems kinda fun to play I should try it out lol
river walrus
Doesn't warrior sucks in 2s just because of all the mages and hunters kiting?
rancid granite
dont mages and hunters suck in 2s from all the warriors zugging making it hard to kite?
craggy geyser
dont mages and hunters suck in 2s from all the warriors zugging making it hard t...
🤣🤣🤣
urban skiff
oddly very few actual warriors who play blitz so
Confirmed only fake warriors play blitz
urban skiff
Doesn't warrior sucks in 2s just because of all the mages and hunters kiting?
Dunno, i play enh in 2s because it's the best spec in the game
fickle forge
wait which is worst?
Frost DK
sand sundial
I forgot 2's existed.. it seems kinda fun to play I should try it out lol
makes for ez conquest farm
rancid granite
haven't 2v2's since vanilla when, iirc, we had to make team names to duo
craggy geyser
Remember 5v5 in TBC. Shit was so fun
rancid granite
i missed out on that too 😭
worthy fern
@fickle forge frost dk with an rshaman is practically free wins in 2s
Static field and lasso
Win in 2 goes
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> frost dk with an rshaman is practically free wins in 2s
Yeah until you meet any hunter, warrior, rogue or WW
DK defensives are so trash into 2s meta
And it sucks into priest, which is every game
sterile moth
Good morning boys. What’s the good word? Looks like enhance is still making a mockery of the 2s ladder? 😎
fickle forge
I'm hoping UDK is coming back now, FDK is not a spec until it's reworked to not be a sub rogue in plate
west hatch
i recently switched to WAR for my main alt and like
seems like a skill issue that people dies to it
like dont get me wrong there's a lot of damage happening and it's definitely fun to play
but you should be able to kite warriors
fickle forge
expecting a nerf soon
Never let Blizzard disappoint you 🙏
lavish quest
but you should be able to kite warriors
west hatch
https://tenor.com/view/the-list-bloobiecord-amiaryllis-bloo-gif-1223675732592197...
oh this entirely melee based character with only 2 gap closers one on a 30 second CD and the other with 2 charges does insane damage
i wonder if I should just play against that and distance myself from him
All his damage is telegraphed through CD usage that literally make him red and big? Ah damn, if only I had a way of stunning or disarming him
lavish quest
Exactly. Buff war
west hatch
yeah buff war who cares
lavish quest
Cc immunity during avatar. For balance
Imagine if we could proc precog from being slowed while not moving
rancid granite
2x charge
heroic leap
intervene
3x root break
rancid granite
ya sounds so ez to kite
spice hornet
expecting a nerf soon
I’m predicting execute damage nerfs for fury
Which would be so lame
elfin surge
im fine with that
rancid granite
can't wait for fury nerfs so we can feel better about playing arms
stuck mulch
nerf rampage
lavish quest
Nerf mages
fickle forge
ya sounds so ez to kite
It's what assassas do in 2s
They apply crippling and RP walk away into your deadzone
fickle forge
There are way too many 80%+ slows in the game atm
Chains of Ice used to be the big slow skill
spice hornet
yep. nu-blizz devs making mistakes that old blizz devs learned long ago when they got rid of everything being 70% except a couple things
now we have stuff in the 80s
so stupid
worthy fern
Having someone hamstrung and then just casually walking away from me because they have some no skill off gcd slow that’s greater than mine is bullshit
fickle forge
It's pretty stupid yeah
spice hornet
heroic throw should apply hamstring imo
fickle forge
We should at least be even if I hit ham
worthy fern
We need ham string root like monks
spice hornet
we used to have it lol
lavish quest
Passive slows should be like 30% at best
spice hornet
they legit took it from us and gave it to monks
fickle forge
imagine hamstringing
Okay Scooberz
fierce elm
lmao
spice hornet
forgot about scooberz
fickle forge
Where's that dude who unbinded Hamstring and only used Clap as his slow
spice hornet
lmao
worthy fern
I think one of the best changes they could make to arms right now is to make rend do a decent amount of damage but tie absolutely no talents to it, just make it worth pressing by itself, and having good uptime on it would be valuable. That way if you refreshed a rend right before you get kited you would keep some dps uptime.
spice hornet
rend feels like a bloat button at this point I wish it just auto applied when you Mmortal strike, kinda like when you tclap now
worthy fern
It feels like a bloat button cause it doesn’t do shit, in bfa it did good damage and was important to the rotation
fickle forge
Yeah but Blizzard won't let us have both
We're either ferals in plate or have chunky MS
worthy fern
Like I don’t want to be a bleed spec I want one single bleed that maybe does about the same dmg as an Ms crit over uts duration
spice hornet
Bfa arms was horrible
worthy fern
It was I don’t disagree
spice hornet
Literally a Walmart feral Druid
fickle forge
There was not a single button that did any damage, only corrupts and essences did
worthy fern
I like rend as a button though
fierce elm
I enjoy arms rn
fickle forge
So do I
worthy fern
It was a good button in legion too
spice hornet
There was not a single button that did any damage, only corrupts and essences di...
Yeah and even then arms could only play vers corrupts lmao. Didn’t even get to have fun like the other melee
Full vers d stance dotting people 10m games til something happen
fierce elm
rend/tc should just be like the DF tier set
and reworked into % talents or something to buff slows
worthy fern
Make rend apply hamstring
fierce elm
Other way
worthy fern
Even less buttons
lavish quest
Make arms great again
worthy fern
Make fury bad again
sterile moth
lol they just keep buffing damage and that’s not the problem
lavish quest
Mages, not fury you goober
worthy fern
Idk I feel like a monster in arenas rn
fierce elm
You can have all 3 specs be stier and peeps will complain
lavish quest
Because they'll still be f tier :)
rancid granite
It's what assassas do in 2s
oh i was replying to warriors leaving out half their mobility options not in response to rogues lol; but yeah i remember the crippling poison deadzone kite from back in vanilla
thought i was a hot shot warrior dueler til a rogue humbled me
verbal tangle
thought i was a hot shot warrior dueler til a rogue humbled me
Many such cases
rancid granite
i wish i still had that level of confidence
fickle forge
oh i was replying to warriors leaving out half their mobility options not in res...
It is kinda true though
But luckily warr in a state now where uptime = win, again
rancid granite
the good ol pve zug meta
fickle forge
It's what warrior is
sterile moth
Love when priests grip you out of the zug
rancid granite
seems its what every class is
sterile moth
Super, I’ve lost all my stacks and momentum and damage reduction
God forbid they grip me into a mage or upstairs on mugambala
copper fox
@urban skiff you play the 1 button spec? Been thinking about trying it
urban skiff
<@205395474784583681> you play the 1 button spec? Been thinking about trying it
More like 5 million button spec. There's a 1 button spec? Thought they killed that off in 11.1
copper fox
Idk I’ve never played the class I saw bigdam talking about it in chat yesterday. Saying “the 1 button spec is getting buffed”
edgy escarp
is there any haste % breakpoints as Colossus Arms warr?
spice hornet
Idk I’ve never played the class I saw bigdam talking about it in chat yesterday....
zercher will be pleased
exotic forge
Only thing deterring me from playing enh sham is the amount of buttons
hot solstice
Only thing deterring me from playing enh sham is the amount of buttons
Ye, love I have to bind 2 shields+2 weapon enhancements+mastery buff
fickle forge
I have witnessed it all
@bright kraken Did you swap to EU? This you?
violet fossil
I have witnessed it all
bot activities?
violet fossil
lol
gray turtle
is there a good pvp guild out there
all I ever see is pve guilds
atleast a damn valorstone acquisition group
stuck mulch
is there a good pvp guild out there
why need a guild when all we play is solo que
violet fossil
is there a good pvp guild out there
gotta look
exotic forge
is there a good pvp guild out there
Definitely not MAKE DUROTAR GREAT AGAIN
Go guildless instead
sharp meteor
Idk what guilds do for pvp these days
exotic forge
Sit on a fence in goldshire or the rocks in durotar and brag about their dueling and wpvp skills but never bothering to step into the arena
At least from my observations that's what happens
rancid granite
just log on and you'll be flooded with guild invites you don't gotta do a thing lol
gray turtle
why need a guild when all we play is solo que
to get to solo play on mains and alts quicker?
let me guess, you guys are pve players and not very good so you do the dorky pve scheduling and chatting ye?
and that's why the extra ridiculous comments up there? haha
rancid granite
sounds like gaming with friends 101; very fun i highly recommend it
whats it like being mr.lonely
gray turtle
no it's extra dorky because pve is more toxic, listening to them speak is like scraping chalk on a board
like they have stuff stuck in their throats
and no matter how "hard" the pve gets, I'm actually having trouble with dozing off at my keyboard punching those brick walls lmao
rancid granite
there's lots of friendly and kind people out there if you give them a chance; and put yourself out there with kindness yourself
❤️
gray turtle
as for what a pvp group can do to excel there, a lot actually
gray turtle
there's lots of friendly and kind people out there if you give them a chance; an...
so act like r/niceguy if you want,
but I'll always respond to such trashy low effort comments with logic and study
rancid granite
i think i found the reason why you can't find friends
gray turtle
me and my 2 friends are the people looking to start a guild lmao
again, you are the lowest level of "I'm acting nice but trying to fish for reactions" cmon do better bud, d-do you have friends? or this chat x)
oops I'm sorry I'm not here to offend you, I just wanted to find people to hangout with, no reason for yoy to be that shit stick you are 😄
rancid granite
gray turtle
Aw do you need attention? sorry I'm not a good dad
"the troll" xD or worse he has a superiority complex
rancid granite
well you asked if there is any pvp guilds out there; maybe you answered your own question
you can start your own guild with your 2 friends
👍
gray turtle
we are talking about you bud
your first response was "just log on and you'll be flooded with invites" and just went on with "I want to annoy him"
it's not super far up those messages, but hey I'll bite if that's what you like
rancid granite
yeah i was guildless and i'd get random guild invites all the time
and then a pvp guild picked me up
gray turtle
and that matters to me how? LOL
rancid granite
im just trying to respond to this
there's plenty
usually they're seeking for members it's not hard to find any
gray turtle
you really think I can have a straight conversation with you after that? 🤣
rancid granite
bro what the fuck
rancid granite
gray turtle
I can see why other wow players hate randoms so much, hahaha
grave rock
Only when you're the random 
gray turtle
no profile pic new account? lol
fierce elm
the hell am I reading right now
spice hornet
what happened
fierce elm
To like give you a straight answer, PvP guilds are fairly non-existent from like pre-made Battlegrounds
and like maybe doing the weekly sparks quests
gray turtle
what about valorstone grinds
grave rock
Not a new account, and i don't need a picture kekw
fierce elm
Valorstone grinds I reckon are more PvE oriented
since it doesnt matter in PvP whatsoever
gray turtle
oh yeah I forgot I was doing that for another reason hahah
fierce elm
Unfortunately Guilds are a 'dead' thing for PvP aspect now
Rating differences, solo shuffle
spice hornet
yee just join a good raiding guild if possible, or active pve'r guild in general.
fierce elm
At most its like getting someone to duo Blitz with you or something, maybe do some 3s if you can accept differing skill and rating
gray turtle
I can't join a pve guild I just despise that entire portion of the game
fierce elm
We just dont 'get' anything from pvp guilds except like a small community
But you can get that from any discord already
gray turtle
😦
rancid granite
isnt that the whole point
pve guild = people who pve in one guild, pvp guild = people who pvp in one guild
fierce elm
It's just in an awful state
gray turtle
when I find information like this that makes me mad at blizzard, I go gank leveling players
fierce elm
Personally I have gotten a ton of invites to guilds just by being online
Some PvP oriented
I was whispered the other day too
But really, if you want community your best bet is discord servers
rancid granite
my guild does ebgs, crate farming, people always wanting to arena etc, isnt that what a pvp guild is lol
wpvp etc
fierce elm
that is pretty much what a pvp guild is
gray turtle
I'm never seeing them, if they don't say pve they usually just have me guessing
but I'll find one
fierce elm
But yeah, valorstones is stuck in PvE guilds
So your best bet is finding someone who does both
gray turtle
an obsessive group that wants to pull ratings
fierce elm
The issue is recruiting people if you create your own guild
gray turtle
no no no no no no ko
rancid granite
i can recruit you to my pvp guild afro so you dont have to be lonely thinking no pvp guilds exist
gray turtle
did you see what that responsibility did to the mods
gray turtle
nice
rancid granite
do that while surrounded by fun company
fierce elm
This is my company lmao
fickle forge
What did I just read man
fierce elm
Yall think I am active here because I love answering questions
gray turtle
WhAT diD i JusT REad fuck off lmao
stuck mulch
let me guess, you guys are pve players and not very good so you do the dorky pve...
im not good no, im only 2100
rancid granite
this guy sucking up to afro cause he's in top 50 but shitting on everyone else
fierce elm
Also PvP absolutely has more dorky chatting than PvE
fickle forge
WhAT diD i JusT REad fuck off lmao
Ye who the fuck are you dude lmao
Rage bait used to be believable
fierce elm
this guy sucking up to afro cause he's in top 50 but shitting on everyone else
I DOUBT HE SUCKS UP TO ME BECAUSE I AM TOP 50 IN A MEME BRACKET
gray turtle
Also PvP absolutely has more dorky chatting than PvE
not true for me
fierce elm
I just think we all got off on the wrong foot with someone not aware of how this chat works lmao
rancid granite
Also PvP absolutely has more dorky chatting than PvE
i imagine if you get some tryhard ass '3s rated bg' only guild its true
fierce elm
Which is like 30% sarcasm, 30% roasting, 40% bantering
gray turtle
pve players have like an hour of dialogue just on consumables before a group starts
grave rock
fickle forge
Answer is that PvP guilds are extinct
Make your own if you wanna create that environment
rancid granite
is in an awesome pvp guild
gray turtle
you? specifically? nahh
fierce elm
Kargish hating rn
fickle forge
Big time hater brother
gray turtle
afro was the only good Samaritan here, everyone else is undeserving of my respect
fierce elm
🙏
gray turtle
I poop on your sword
fickle forge
Where's Mud man
gray turtle
karanze
fickle forge
Invite me to your guild when you've made it dude
rancid granite
who wants to bet his '2 friends' are his little sister and his dog
gray turtle
I'm gonna go on my daily killings in wow, keep it musty buckos
gray turtle
who wants to bet his '2 friends' are his little sister and his dog
when I said friends I meant girlfriends lmao
have fun with that piece of information, yes we live together the three of us,
eat shit loser stop trying to bother me lmao
fierce elm
lmao what the hell
fickle forge
Lmfao
gray turtle
I'd rather say friends cause you know, people gotta ask questions and be nosy and shit
gray turtle
but I'm really trying to hop out this chat shits in my way now
fickle forge
I respect the real Andrew Tate dropped by to ask about PvP guilds
Keep it real brother
gray turtle
I don't even have the words xD you're sad
fickle forge
Don't forget to send me an invite when you've made the guild
rancid granite
weird guy but whats weirder is some of yall thinking pvp guilds dont exist anymore?
fierce elm
I think they serve no purpose but thats me
lmao
I never said they didnt exist
I just don't see the purpose of it
if you cathc me
rancid granite
imagine this discord server in-game it's same thing
sharp meteor
I don't think I've ever been in a guild for any pvp related anything
sharp meteor
everything is cross realm-faction
rancid granite
strange
fierce elm
YEAH BUT WATCH THE DRAMA IN WHAAZZ CHAT RN
sharp meteor
maybe guilds good if u dont have people to like
for like meeting people
but i imagine its like lfg with extra steps
and by that i mean everybody dodging unless ur higher exp
green wharf
wpvp is still fun
not at all lol
fierce elm
I think it gets harder once you get to like 2k+ compared to like 1600
green wharf
the amount of exploits and buffs
fierce elm
I sure as fuck wont queue with someone hardstuck 1400
at least not on my warrior lmao
green wharf
plus, people rarely go alone, its mostly a duo with a healer or 3 to 5 people ganking people alone trying to doq uests
so fun
sharp meteor
at least not on my warrior lmao
alts helpful for this
and playing with nice people can be a comfy time
almost everybody just lookin to succ some cr tho before moving on so
fierce elm
The people in my SS are nice
rare storm
hello gamers, haven't played the warr in a minute, what's my best bet at getting 1950 for the illusion? peaked 2100 in df on arms
sharp meteor
hello gamers, haven't played the warr in a minute, what's my best bet at getting...
honestly either spec is fine
prot is also good if u wanna soloq bgs
fierce elm
But if you want to like be huge tryhard its Fury
sharp meteor
idk just mongo smashing 2-3 buttons on fury and killing most people a minute in is pretty good
rare storm
fury it is lol
sharp meteor
ya fury owns
rare storm
thanks!
rancid granite
maybe guilds good if u dont have people to like
fickle forge
weird guy but whats weirder is some of yall thinking pvp guilds dont exist anymo...
Not for the purpose of PvP no
rancid granite
buncha loners in here who dont understand guilds
sharp meteor
fickle forge
I knew 1 guild that did RBGs, and it has died since blitz came in
rancid granite
well thats the whole idea of a guild right, buncha people into the same stuff in one guild
guild perks, guild bank, helping eachother
like its an MMORPG
fickle forge
well thats the whole idea of a guild right, buncha people into the same stuff in...
But that's what we do right here, except we got no ties
Ngl I ain't ever seen an active ingame guild chat either
sharp meteor
i heard there are people still doing rated bgs
Idk why that mode wasn't nuked.
fickle forge
It can be in waves
sharp meteor
Cord chat >>>>> in-game
rancid granite
-play wow
-have to alt tab to chat
what if you can just chill and chat while gamin; in the actual chat box
spice hornet
Cord chat >>>>> in-game
i think blizz never hired any devs that were talented in VOIP services. I remember back in like 2007 they tried in-game voice and it was terrible. quality was always bad.
they've tried it like 3-4 times now?
sharp meteor
In-game voice honestly isn't that bad but, like, cord exists and is better.
It's like they shipped the communities thing which is just bad cord.
fickle forge
A guild chat is also really closed off
A server's got people coming in and out every day
Like Nutrition up there with his 10 friends
buoyant chasm
guys is worth to join and leave to lose rating and restart from 0?
sharp meteor
guys is worth to join and leave to lose rating and restart from 0?
What
fickle forge
guys is worth to join and leave to lose rating and restart from 0?
Why
rancid granite
just imagine kennie you could make a guild named like Furry Gladiators, and invite all your furry friends who are into same activities as you, and you could make friends and banter, do things together, work on guild achievs and guild bank, help noobers etc
or just solo Q and have guild chat banter and company
sharp meteor
Why do I need a guild for any of that though
rancid granite
cause its cool
fickle forge
Ngl man that's what I do with IRL friends
rancid granite
you get a guild name, guild perks, and its your own lil posse
game feels too quiet when guildless imo
fickle forge
I just talk to my friends
rancid granite
yeah all in same place while ingame gaming
aka a guild
a community group chat but with easier to read green text
fickle forge
to reset mmr
It will do nothing beneficial for your mmr bro
rancid granite
well yeah lowers it so you get into easier match then go 6-0 boosting the mmr fixing it
i assume thats what people think will happen
rancid granite
saw a post on r/worldofpvp about it i assume he wrote or read it lmao
worldly oriole
do i give up dragon roar
sharp meteor
ya
rancid granite
some ppl take spear+imp spear + roar too
sharp meteor
ya thats also option
roar and its upgrades pretty eh
spear often useless but if its gonna stick then it can be really good
best thing about roar is probs debuff from commander
vivid pumice
I exclusively use my guild chat to shit talk pugs in our raids
worldly oriole
idk man pvp only is pretty rough
sharp meteor
Playing wow exclusively for the pvp is actual insanity.
stuck mulch
Playing wow exclusively for the pvp is actual insanity.
its the only way
social wow is dead
breh i wanna farm until i got my conq weps, but blitz sure is slow
i dont wanna go into solo without them
sharp meteor
social wow is dead
what did they mean by this
game same it has ever been
they just added more solo stuff
stuck mulch
what did they mean by this
just w8, soon we will have LFR mythic version
no need to talk to anyone, que and play
stuck mulch
its fine u dont see it
sharp meteor
wym ur completely unaware
stuck mulch
its ok
sharp meteor
have u met any healers in shuff to play actual arena with or are you asocial
rancid granite
wow as social as you wanna make it
the ones who say it aint social ... dont act social lol
met a lot of cool nerds in blitz, ss, pve, random places
rancid granite
Playing wow exclusively for the pvp is actual insanity.
i got the spear glyph and ended up finishing the whole kyrian campaign; super cool stuff
SL aesthetic great
rancid granite
social wow is dead
u
spice hornet
just chillin in ven's stream, see this comment randomly outta nowhere
rancid granite
cant tell me enemy team never had an afk/leaver
stuck mulch
makes no sense that we lose rating when we had 2 people leave
like wtf can we do to win
down 1 healer and 1 dps
spice hornet
just vibe queueing on the 3rd warrior alt
bright kraken
<@704146484811137034> Did you swap to EU? This you?
Nah I'd actually press ms
river walrus
arcane mages can suck a D man. i can't barely play the game with that insane mobility, slow and cc
spice hornet
@sharp meteor was verdant legend free? i didnt rlly play that ssn and noticed a lot of random people have the r1 shuff in that bracket. and then no other r1
sharp meteor
<@129440991294783488> was verdant legend free? i didnt rlly play that ssn and no...
It was a very dead season.
Nobody wanted to play so similar to blitz anybody who stuck around got something.
spice hornet
oh wow
bright kraken
worldly oriole
solo q saved wow
idle falcon
real
did u click it
WAIT YOU'RE PLAYING EVOKER
banned
wait nvm its hunter
still banned
spice hornet
someone ask hayne tv why check-pvp is always going down
fickle forge
Ask him next if each person using check-pvp inflates his Twitch viewer number
sharp meteor
Ask him next if each person using check-pvp inflates his Twitch viewer number
Yeah, it does.
urban skiff
no need to talk to anyone, que and play
sounds like a dream to me
fickle forge
Yeah, it does. <:keks:936231610850897992>
Man
valid kettle
That UI above is … a lot
boreal veldt
ToP? take the q pop
I do need to test ToP again to see if PvP iLvl matters/pops off during that one boss
fickle forge
You're doing it wrong if you aren't holding CDs to humiliate your friend on that boss
fickle forge
I will find this man
urban skiff
is this me?
fickle forge
I mean should be physically impossible man
urban skiff
rip lobby
for some reason i get my ass handed to me by rets and wws
warrior pretty cool though
is parry supposed to work against ascendance?
fickle forge
is parry supposed to work against ascendance?
Yes
urban skiff
does it?
fickle forge
It's why arms rips enh
Odds are this dude didn't parry at 100% like he said he did
Parried at 1 @wheat jay per sac
urban skiff
He didn't start at 100% in any of those matches
unfortunately I can't see all the defensives without replaying
lmao what the actual fuck
peak 5.5m dps
wheat jay
Parried at 1 <@291636646225379328> per sac
fuck you lol
urban skiff
Odds are this dude didn't parry at 100% like he said he did
it has to be this match
it's the only match where he died to me and then was on my team right after
parry at 0.29 and death is at 1.01 so idk what he's smoking
fickle forge
it has to be this match
Send the link to the log
stuck mulch
I will find this man
the goat
fickle forge
https://wowarenalogs.com/match?id=d7da30ae79f17d5a8b9210d0c0332601&roundId=5
Wow that was pretty 
to watch
urban skiff
which part?
this lobby is killing me
they want to chase the frost mage who's clearly really good
fickle forge
which part?
The whole thing
Ya'll are blowing your whole load within 30 seconds
Nobody has any CDs 35 sec in
urban skiff
I had to adapt to what they were doing
urban skiff
the matches don't even average 2 minute duration
fickle forge
Yeah but no shit this warrior dies in a paralysis when his team has spent sac, parry and 2 PS on ascendance and the first SE&F
urban skiff
immediately wiped out all progress today in two shuffles
urban skiff
was 1950
not even 1800
Idk if I'm going crazy but I feel like I do better, the better the people I play against are
stuck mulch
ill soon venture into ss
still want my chest to get made into pvp set
then ill grind shuffle instead of blitz
urban skiff
idk what to tell you, daytime EU shuffles are the absolute worst
fickle forge
Such a meme
urban skiff
You either end up with people who have dicks for brains or you get some turbo sweat who's going 6-0 his way to 2800 because this is his 18th alt
And either can absolutely ruin any shuffle if you aren't playing a class that can carry
stuck mulch
idk what to tell you, daytime EU shuffles are the absolute worst
tbh for me my shuffles have been worse towards the night when all people get home from work
urban skiff
Randomly getting hit by cc-chains so I'm free to hit anyone when my cooldowns are up, but wait? What's that? My partner is going to kite them away from me while my cooldowns are going so I can't do damage?
yeah that tracks
stuck mulch
towards the night u get people that die in the opener
in the first round and ofc he is on ur team, and the next round he refuses to die cus well he aint on ur team anymore
fickle forge
I mean yeah
But it's also rough in the early ratings
Warriors will lowkey die in 15 seconds out the gates from leaping first global behind pillar
Escaping into 2.1k+ regions so people at least have fingers is a good start
But shuffle is just a complete meme
It doesn't capture the arena experience of 3s at all
lavish quest
It captures the only experience. 3s is deadge
fickle forge
3s is lit rn though
lavish quest
Who knows? 🤷♂️ Who's queuing it?
fierce elm
idk what to tell you, daytime EU shuffles are the absolute worst
Yall just SUCK
wheat jay
Yall just SUCK
R1 yet?
urban skiff
Yall just SUCK
I mean, yeah
Obviously i suck, man.
But could you imagine being the guy who loses to me? Even a draw is a scalding commentary on the enemy teams performance
urban skiff
It doesn't capture the arena experience of 3s at all
tbh I don't want the experience of 3s, or I'd be playing 3s.
I want the chaos of shuffle, I just also want more variety in what i face ..
fierce elm
doneso
urban skiff
I was doing so well, then dropped like 100 rating again
fierce elm
top 26 feels good man
copper fox
top 26 feels good man
Name change immediately
fierce elm
THEY SAID I WAS WASHED
its only top 35 world
or something like that lmao
top 26 euo
tho
fickle forge
tbh I don't want the experience of 3s, or I'd be playing 3s.
Yeah but I do
And shuffle offers little consistency
urban skiff
the chaos included
I wish ratings were less volatile. I don't want to feel like a failure every time I don't go at least 5 wins
urban skiff
Going up and down hundreds of ratings over a bad session when I end up like 20 rating above or below, seems like they could optimize a lot
urban skiff
I just think 'gotta go 3-3'
don't work once your MMR hits CR, it takes a wild number of positive wins to break them apart by more than just 20
fierce elm
I mean my MMR is pretty close to my CR lmao
and that mentality has worked so far this season and last
Although I havent played something I had MMR on already
urban skiff
Mine are exactly the same and it took a 6-0 to have them not glued together
finished levelling another shaman
undecided if I want to do the exact same and see what momentum of having gotten a lot better will do, or if I'll try something entirely new with the risk of nothing i learned carrying over
lavish quest
top 26 feels good man
When fotm rerolling works out
fierce elm
lmao
Paladin was definitely not fotm when I rerolled it though : (
This was post-retpocalypse
wheat jay
???
fierce elm
then they destroyed my boy in TWW
fierce elm
Yeah Ret was like solid mid tier in 3s, and like high tier in SS
wheat jay
So stfu xD
fierce elm
but I wasnt even aware SS was a real queue until S4
when I rerolled Ret in S3 lmao
Rogue was a for fun project as an alt
so fair enough
I can admit that I did pick 3 High or Top tier classes to play lmao
urban skiff
Escaping into 2.1k+ regions so people at least have fingers is a good start
Got a tldr on what to do vs the popular specs? My goal vs mm should be to stop them from chaining aimed shits, i get that. Warriors are also simple. No clue what i'm supposed to react to on mage or rogue
fierce elm
Mage icy-veins
urban skiff
Or ww monks for the matter
fierce elm
Rogue when they pop out of stealth
Or when they kidney
Windwalker when clones start to pop up
I dont know if you can still root them @wheat jay knows
urban skiff
Mage icy-veins
Yeah but like. Mage does icy veins, what do i do to ruin his day during that? Like what specifically ruins his combo or damage? Does my question make sense?
fickle forge
Got a tldr on what to do vs the popular specs? My goal vs mm should be to stop t...
Icy Veins and depends on which rogue spec
fickle forge
Blades for sub and subterfuge for all of them
fierce elm
and jump away from meteor/ice stuff
wheat jay
I dont know if you can still root them <@291636646225379328> knows
Monk?
Monk has freedom
fierce elm
Assa rogue, mostly just stay away. Outlaw always on vanish/stealth
wheat jay
I don't remember if it freedoms clones tho
urban skiff
Yeah i have the tools, i'm just like, i know if i can thunderstorm a warrior to Africa right when he pops all his cooldowns and especially if i can get a static off before he gets back, i've effectiy neutered his damage and can relax after
fierce elm
You can do that to rogue too
urban skiff
But what is the equivalent for other specs, i'm wondering.
Disarming hunter during trueshot is goat.
urban skiff
and jump away from meteor/ice stuff
This is the stuff i want
wheat jay
Yeah but can you root the clones at all
Yes
fierce elm
I mean that is the only ability you can do that with
urban skiff
I mean ask about a spec lmao
I'm brain dead and you're the ones who know what is popular 😐
fierce elm
lmao
I mean every melee spec is the same, burst cooldowns = knock away, try to static when they return
Do not stack against Assa/Feral whatsoever
All ranged spellcasters play the same basically
Grounding - walk away from them
I would wall Icy-veins tbh
fickle forge
Yeah i have the tools, i'm just like, i know if i can thunderstorm a warrior to ...
The problem is that enh sham doesn't have a lot of ways to deal with warrior
fierce elm
Icy-veins is the only time Frost is dangerous, Arcane Surge is the only time Arcane is dangerous, if you encounter a fire mage you just win anyways
I reckon Enhance has the same counterplay to Every malee
fickle forge
It's difference on ele and Rsham because you actually want them to get away from you and you can afford some dead globals
But enh sham wants full uptime and to spam
And it doesn't compete face to face with warrior
Worse walls and less sustained damage
urban skiff
The problem is that enh sham doesn't have a lot of ways to deal with warrior
I get that warrior is really good into enh, but warriors aren't even in my top10 worst matchups and i feel like i played enough warrior to know the exact cadence of every fight.
fickle forge
I get that warrior is really good into enh, but warriors aren't even in my top10...
Fr though warrior completely farms enh sham
wheat jay
you also play at low mmr
fierce elm
Warrior dumpsters enhance
wheat jay
where warriors cant even find ms on their bars
fierce elm
even if you play warrior
urban skiff
I reckon Enhance has the same counterplay to *Every* malee
I dont have a counter play for partners who ruins my uptime by kiting enemies into bad positions for our team during my cooldowns.
If they give me a static totem that works on friends i'd win 90% of the time
wheat jay
reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal
fierce elm
I mean yeah thats just solo shuffle lmao
wheat jay
the amount of games i lost cuz i had to chase my own teammate
fickle forge
The counterplay to all of enh sham's issues is to press N and then click on elemental
wheat jay
who did the best kiting in the world, but that kiting was on me xD
fierce elm
Server admin spec
fickle forge
Anything enh struggles with is immediately made up for as ele
urban skiff
My best games are the ones where their dps stacks on top of healer and i get to cleave
wheat jay
i know one guy who claims ele is weak and hard to play
fierce elm
My best games are the ones where their dps stacks on top of healer and i get to ...
same
so is everyones lmao
urban skiff
Yeah but like, i get to do it from 3 miles out
Ironically enh plays the best when it plays like elemental lol
urban skiff
1950
fierce elm
when the fuck id oyu hit 1950 big man
But yeah, you have the same counterplay to 95% of specs
lavish quest
Yeah but can you root the clones at all
Aren't the clones cc immune now?
fierce elm
yeah I figured the MONK MAIN could answer that
lavish quest
He's not a monk main
He's a fotm reroller
I need to pvp on my monk for dat set tho
worldly oriole
I stayed up last night and lost points in solo let that sink in
fierce elm
w a t
rancid granite
did u try winning instead of losing
fierce elm
If you win more rounds than lose you climb
sterile moth
Or if you’re super patient you can climb going 3-3
lavish quest
Man is cooked
worldly oriole
ya but I got a terrible lobby with demo lock and 2 shamans
lavish quest
What mmr?
worldly oriole
my mmr is shit on all my guys playing for the first time since like bfa sl s1
almost did r1 s4 bfa
worldly oriole
makes sense
fierce elm
ya but I got a terrible lobby with demo lock and 2 shamans
also this is a W lobby
worldly oriole
I need teammates
fierce elm
thats 3s
worldly oriole
it was like
ele resto demo and hpala I forget the other melee in there
felt fucking aids fighting double caster
worldly oriole
depends but yeah
sometimes u get games you can't carry
I'm having fun with solo que on my fury tho
I was a dh main
lavish quest
If afro can do it, surely you got this
fierce elm
exactly
stuck mulch
if afro dont get rank 1 this season we gotta vote kick him out of here
stuck mulch
not with that attitude
fierce elm
I merely wanted to showcase that warrior mad easy
and if my noob ass can play it so can anybody
worldly oriole
instant pop solo que 8:21AM
elfin surge
instant pop solo que 8:21AM
nice win trade lobby bro
stuck mulch
insta feign when u are in a spear or storm
fierce elm
Nothing is more tilting than Arcane mage
fierce elm
yeah when you catch them after 40 minutes
lavish quest
Wake me up when they delete mage
worldly oriole
WOW is the best expansion .
exotic forge
I'm gonna split those mages like a KitKat
fierce elm
🙏
stuck mulch
i just want the 1800 set for DK
lavish quest
Homie, you gonna somehow go 0-7
sterile moth
@stuck mulch Don’t think it into existence. Compete like crazy
stuck mulch
so fucking clean
jovial torrent
shame its the mythic colour not the pvp one
lavish quest
At least we can get the legs boots and chest I think from raid as off tier peices
So war can use it
stuck mulch
shame its the mythic colour not the pvp one
yeah but the mythic version is pretty easy to get
lavish quest
shame its the mythic colour not the pvp one
Just means it's not fomo and easier to get
So a good thing tbh
lavish quest
Another bat
jovial torrent
that undercity pre patch quest bat
lavish quest
3k m+ mount is the real glad mount this season
stuck mulch
3k m+ mount is the real glad mount this season
its so ugly tho
lavish quest
And obtainable because not locked behind deadge mode
jovial torrent
is +12 easier this patch than last patch
lavish quest
its so ugly tho
M+ mount is pretty cool
lavish quest
is +12 easier this patch than last patch
Yes
stuck mulch
M+ mount is pretty cool
just looks like all the other goblin shit
lavish quest
I think you need some 13s in the mix as well for 3k
jovial torrent
i think its doable with all 12 but probs need some good times on them
lavish quest
just looks like all the other goblin shit
So you'd rather the bat? You do you boo
stuck mulch
So you'd rather the bat? You do you boo
hell no i dont want any of them
thats why im so sad
lavish quest
i think its doable with all 12 but probs need some good times on them
Might as well just do 13s. Would be easier
sand sundial
shame its the mythic colour not the pvp one
Pvp ones slap too tbh
sand sundial
I think you need some 13s in the mix as well for 3k
This is it
jovial torrent
yh, dunno if i should level a cheese m+ class or struggle through it on war
sand sundial
yh, dunno if i should level a cheese m+ class or struggle through it on war
If you have friends it's kinda ez
jovial torrent
i have some guild friends that get it every season so they will carry me a bit
lavish quest
Hardest part is finding non idiots
lavish quest
i have some guild friends that get it every season so they will carry me a bit
This is the first season with a 3k achieve
sand sundial
Hardest part is finding non idiots
Lfg is so horrible for this but it's manageable
lavish quest
Unless they were just gettin 3k for the yolos
jovial torrent
they have 0 interest in pvp but grind the f out of m+
limber relic
I think you need some 13s in the mix as well for 3k
i think its like all 12s and 4ish 13s
im currently 2964 and got all 12 and 2 13s. but finding ppl is stupid af
lavish quest
Yeah I'm like 2800 ish and just a pain to find non idiots
So I'm just waiting a bit till people out gear
limber relic
getting declined by ppl with sub 2700 io with 660 ilvl makes me laugh
while im almost 3k io and 666 ilvl
lavish quest
Need 3k io to get into 8s
rancid granite
so fucking clean
thought this was awful til I saw it on a nelf lol, one of the best it turns out
spice hornet
getting declined by ppl with sub 2700 io with 660 ilvl makes me laugh
Pugging keys as a DPS warrior is the worse experience
I remember having 22s-24s times and couldn’t get into +20s
exotic forge
Do keys with friends, it's fun
limber relic
Do keys with friends, it's fun
what friends
limber relic
#broke
limber relic
Need 3k io to get into 8s
kek
lavish quest
Pugging keys as a DPS warrior is the worse experience
Ascend to the tank life
limber relic
this the type of players im getting declined by
wheat jay
this the type of players im getting declined by
you play dps warr