pvp

[fierce elm]

Good frost mage

A good sub rogue can do a lot

but a good frost mage can do everything

Arms/Fury is annoying for a ton of specs to fight the fuck

[rancid granite]

good to know

cause i dont wanna be THAT guy

[fierce elm]

lmao

Like a good frost mage is just so fucking godtier with their wall alone

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/the-legend-of-zelda-the-wind-waker-zelda-snot-kid-gross-gif-18562215

[fierce elm]

then take in everything else

[rancid granite]

that kinda person

i mean cc > frost wall in annoyance but yeah

[fierce elm]

Yeah but frost wall is the most underutilized ability in the game

the shit the godtier frost players are doing is disgusting

[rancid granite]

smoke bomb got nothin on a good frost wall i agree

[fierce elm]

we are talking controlling a warrior, holding a healer whilst dealing damage

This is also from warr perspective

We dont hate the rogue matchup

From ret/warr/rogue I can tell you I dont hate the rogue matchup

[rancid granite]

🙏

popped off on it a minute ago so im very hype

warrior is good for turning off brain

different moods

[lavish quest]

Yeah the criminally afk hate warriors

[boreal veldt]

Wall too spooky, i always kill it

[spice hornet]

no like its annoying to be the warrior and paired with another warr, or with a rogue, its very hard to win those rounds

[urban skiff]

that's true

I hate when I get paired with something odd like warlock or spriest

[boreal veldt]

i find the biggest issue is just overlapping stun drs

i just tell other warr i'll stun heals

focus on kill tar

[urban skiff]

if they want to continue expanding on shuffle they need to overhaul the DR system so you aren't fucked if your only cc has dr's that hurt your team

[fierce elm]

odd spriest wtf

[boreal veldt]

alll sp players are odd

[fierce elm]

Also yeah if you get paired with a rogue only use shockwave/sb as an emergency stun

[urban skiff]

i always mess up their stuns if we play together first round

It'll tilt them and they get really really angry when playing against me

tilted people don't play well

[boreal veldt]

fear>blind on heals usually when the match gets won with warr/rog in my experience

if they're a good rog a step cheap for good measure

[fierce elm]

Rogue just forces you to play their game

which is fine as you dont wanna waste time on CC anyways lmao

[exotic forge]

I really hate rogue comps as a warr

Like sure, I don't waste a global on stuns

But I feel so useless without any form of cc (outside of fear or kicking)

[rancid granite]

i dont trust myself telling my team to not cc

im used to solo shuffle / solo ranked league just playing around my team its quite a different game but its fun

[boreal veldt]

more globals for zuggin

[rancid granite]

MM and sub duo is quite something

hot yam

basic sub cc/burst with a free 3.5m aimed shot and whatever else is gg

[boreal veldt]

must be nice sending a ranged demolish out of stealth from half court

[rancid granite]

rofl

just imagine pressing the button then taking time to take a sip of water, eat a cheeto

[exotic forge]

That combo makes me think of Maldraxxus Coliseum and how the name MALDraxxus lives up to it

[rancid granite]

i want to hire a MM to follow me around everywhere; forget pocket healers i want a pocket sniper

[boreal veldt]

i mean i'm completely aware if i survive the initial go, i'm fairly in the clear

i just stare at my demolish button and whisper (look what you could have been)

[rancid granite]

our non-stacked demolish can tickle still

[spice hornet]

that comp eats up warr

so unfun

[boreal veldt]

saw a gnome in 2500 blitz send one off the rip and i swear it healed the target and gave it a haste buff

[rancid granite]

lmao

dps loss from channel time actually makes sense

[exotic forge]

It does prevent you from being stunned though

Not all cc, true, but there's some niche tech there

[plush cairn]

should i just buy medallion + ring for conq?

chest is honor

can spend bloody tokens for chest tomorrow

[spice hornet]

@elfin surge

[vivid pumice]

i hit 2k in solo shuffle in season 3 of DF on frost mage having never played it before and in mostly greens

I think i could have easily done it again last season but the armor was ugly

I'm not saying this to brag on myself, I'm not very good at this game. I'm saying it to point out that frost mage is probably the easiest class to play in solo shuffle and pvp in general

[spice hornet]

the mage kit in general is just too good

[vivid pumice]

It has so many get out of jail free cards with like 0 cds

like genuinely i think Displacement might be one of the most broken defensives in the game

[exotic forge]

Don't forget the mage roots not having a DR right now

[river walrus]

Frost is hella easy, especially in melee meta full of warriors and monks like we have right now

So easy for them to kite, it's ridiculous

[vivid pumice]

even easier to play now that poly has a damage threshold

[spice hornet]

I’d like for them to explain why this still even a thing

what is the exact number of unique colors?

[sharp meteor]

Five as I recall.

Including stamina.

[spice hornet]

biggest one ive had in arena lmao

@sharp meteor ty

[robust hearth]

0lz tell me what it is

[urban skiff]

Almost as big as my tempest lol

[spice hornet]

@urban skiff do tou sleep

[urban skiff]

I'm up at 5 EU time

and go to bed around midnight to 1

So yea

I definitely sleep 🙂

[spice hornet]

4 hours of sleep?

[urban skiff]

Sure

Who has time to sleep when there's so much to do?

[fierce elm]

same

Moved yday

finished move at 1:30am

[urban skiff]

new house who dis

[fierce elm]

fell asleep at 3am

Drove GF to work at 6:50am

now eating some shitty sandwich in car pre-gym

Gotta try this gym out and another gym in town

[fickle forge]

Sintimissi

[fierce elm]

This gym is kinda mud

mid

it got Cool prime stuff

but the plates are thick bumper-ish plates

And the squat racks are these duo racks where you can squat on both sides

They do have a comp bench though

[urban skiff]

I kind of like bumper plates. maybe i'm getting old but I see no prestige in the iron plates

All I see is additional damage to my hearing

[fierce elm]

Personally its fitting on a bar issue lmao

We had the skinny eleiko bumpers at last gym

No issue with that

or like rubber plates

These ones are real thixk

Though I guess I aint deadlifting or squatting anymore and I can fit 200kg on the bar without issue most likely. Im not benching or rowing that ever lmao

Like thid gym has prime and cybex machines and its goated

[urban skiff]

i miss those. Sliding them on a bar was just joy and even just picking them up was so much less of a chore than what I have now

Currently I have bumper plates but they're more plastic-y than rubbery

[fierce elm]

Yeah they are goated

can fit a ton on a bar

dont make sound

doesnt look like you have 500kgs on the bar as it does with bumper plates

[urban skiff]

Juuuuust slightly harder and smoother and less friction for easy picking up a 20 with one hand

Like literally I can't pick up my 20s with one hand unless i have accesss to the hole. I don't trust my grip because of how smooth they are

[fierce elm]

Those are wack

[urban skiff]

(also it's my own floor and i train barefoot now)

[fierce elm]

I can one hand grip these without much issue

[urban skiff]

so dropping one would be catastrophic i suppose

[fierce elm]

the 25 is a lil bit too thick

the worst part is that they have skinnier plates BY THE MACHINES

[urban skiff]

my next gym i get all eleiko

[fierce elm]

like what the hell dawg

[fierce elm]

its absolutely worth it

that shit is built to last

[urban skiff]

Yea i know

I have the evilest most meanest bar though

[fierce elm]

I got a one week trial here, worst case try a new gym

[urban skiff]

The knurling is so deep and spiky just gently brushing it with an elbow takes all the skin off

[fierce elm]

there is a powerlifting gym like 20 minute drive away

30 maybe

[fierce elm]

I love those fucking bars

[urban skiff]

Yea usually me too

but i'd like options

[fierce elm]

Either your skin holds or you fucking suck lmao

[urban skiff]

also it's off center by a lot

noticeable amount

One of the sleeves is sitting further out from the bar than the other, so centre of bar is not aligned with the centre from sleeve to sleeve.

If I had noticed day1 I would have returned it. Now it's just too late.

It's a bar from a small independent shop so maybe I'll try and write and tell them how much I love the bar, and ask how they recommend i fix it myself. That might give me what i want 🙂

[fierce elm]

lmao

yeah hit em up

[urban skiff]

World of pvp discord just losing their collective shit, because the owner made all ranks be blitz 3k rating instead of their precious rank1 roles

Bajheera slightly losing his cool over disconnecting because an ele uses knockback and roots. Apparently they do it on purpose? It's one button, unleash shields, combined knockback and root

https://youtu.be/S1jYsQA7Rds?t=1543

[timid torrent]

Guys if you equip/enchant a conquest piece can you still turn it to a set piece? Or does the conquest piece have to be unequipped

[boreal veldt]

nah charging near that ramp is D/C central on the new map

[urban skiff]

haven't had it happen yet

[boreal veldt]

i mentioned it earlier before season start and reported it but here we are

it's similar to the root + knock bug where blizz's system is auto detecting an out of bounds cheat

so it D/C's the character

like when you spear + dragon charge someone in a certain spot they'll DC sometimes

[urban skiff]

more like every time

😄

[fickle forge]

Sometimes I wonder if this is how MC DC works too

[urban skiff]

it is

anti-cheat

Did you see the new pin?

@boreal veldt @fierce elm

[boreal veldt]

i feel like this is the same train system ive been using

[fierce elm]

what the fuck does skillcheck mean

and how is WW not good to train

How is ret not good to train

HOW IS ENHANCE NOT GOOD TO TRAIN

this has to be an epic prank

[urban skiff]

skill check means if they're good at their class then you shouldn't focus them and if they're bad then go ahead

[fickle forge]

What are you yapping about man

[urban skiff]

Imagine a frost mage who can't kite, does he make you happy or not?

[fierce elm]

This is an epic prank

[urban skiff]

mate zoom in and look reeeeally close

[fierce elm]

oh

[urban skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-bye-peace-out-gif-8161839902492025708

[fierce elm]

what the fuck is this your photoshopped list lmao

did you epic bamboozle me mid-move rn

[urban skiff]

Can't trust mods to do a good april fool's joke so i forced it

[fierce elm]

lmao wtf

I was getting TRIGGERED

[urban skiff]

Consider this an advanced skill check of warriors who follow this discord.

[fierce elm]

lmao

I was like aint no way this is real

but then its Skillcapped

[urban skiff]

We could make our own list and pin it?

[fierce elm]

No this is funnier

[urban skiff]

next time kennie brags about how enh is a free kill i can link the pin and make him absolutely lose his shit

this is my 96d chess move

[fickle forge]

We really spent our annual pin rights on an april fools joke

[urban skiff]

Would you rather see another Magnusz gearing list that raises more questions than it answers?

[boreal veldt]

Worth

[fierce elm]

Worth

[fickle forge]

I'd wanna go back to the times we talked gym and made fun of boosted e-girls' instagrams

[fierce elm]

We talk gym

wdym

[urban skiff]

I try to talk gym but I don't have that much to talk about atm

[fierce elm]

Also you are a boosted e-girl Karg

[urban skiff]

that was a thing?

[fierce elm]

Yeah

It was back then

[boreal veldt]

Sneaky e-gril self promote

[fickle forge]

Before the nuke yeah

[fierce elm]

3 years ago lmao

[urban skiff]

I should become an e-girl

[fierce elm]

tbf we got struck down because of calling people autistic

[fickle forge]

We never recovered

[urban skiff]

idk why people assume I'm a man just because i bench 150

[fierce elm]

It was a different time

[fickle forge]

A better time

[boreal veldt]

A simpler time

[urban skiff]

wonder if my wife could become an e-girl

She plays games and she doesn't want to work

[fickle forge]

The times when we'd call out rogues on their bench press if they sucked on their rerolled warrior

[fierce elm]

We still do

I call out people daily

[fickle forge]

We ain't

[boreal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/rogue-player-speaking-wow-gif-27271750

[fickle forge]

Cap

[fierce elm]

Looking at Shady rn

Looking at you rn

[urban skiff]

and she's done professional modeling so being half naked in front of randos is nothing new

[fickle forge]

You ain't calling out Shady

You're passive aggressive towards Shady

[fierce elm]

Its time

[fickle forge]

We used to be full on aggressive man

[fierce elm]

No I am calling him out lmao

[urban skiff]

rate this lobby

[fierce elm]

I DID ASK HIM WHY HE IS GIVING ADVICE ON A QUESTION THEN ASKING THE SAME QUESTION LATER

[fierce elm]

6-0

[boreal veldt]

Very trainable

[fickle forge]

6-0

Is it MM or BM?

Ah MM

6-0

[urban skiff]

fucking weird lobby

still won

weird-ass lobby man

destro decided to duke it out vs the dk out in the open while hunter just hugged pillar

while on my team i mean

this is not a 6-0 lobby

dk can't grip shit

😦

i found the issue

[urban skiff]

calling who out

[boreal veldt]

damn and the 6-0 boi got a kill

pretty sweaty for a new acc

[urban skiff]

I'm probably on some stream now

[boreal veldt]

make sure to thank mags for the gearing guide

when you get e-famous

[urban skiff]

what gearing guide

i forgot to buy gear

[grand echo]

higher roller lobby smh

[urban skiff]

why do i always seem to lose on draws?

[fickle forge]

You don't lose on draws though

Title is misleading

[hearty heath]

You playing colossus or slayer?

[urban skiff]

no

I didn't get a win, the other team did

So why do I never get the win when it's a draw

[fickle forge]

A draw is a draw bro

It counts as a 0 for both teams

[urban skiff]

Not always

I swear I'm about to lose it with these spellcasters man

fdk enh destro ele

when I'm teamed with the destro and ele they slowly waddle around trying to kite the fdk, and every time they don't get away from him at all, but I get chained out of range and can't hit anything

[jovial torrent]

@urban skiff zip zap, playing the silliest build, i dropped lasso and healing stream, just took ghostwolf breaks root to kite melee

[urban skiff]

Why are they like this? Why can't they be normal?

[fickle forge]

Man Zercher losing it fr

[urban skiff]

at least a somewhat fun lobby ahead

zip zap zippy zippy zap

[fickle forge]

RIP you

[jovial torrent]

counterstrike totem is actually godly in these lobbies, drop it then move it just out of range of them forces them to either stop going on you or die to it

[urban skiff]

first 3 wins done

[jovial torrent]

what i need is a gold farm im completely broke and i need to enchant/craft multiple alts gear

are u trying for 1950 now?

[urban skiff]

nah

just addicted to shaman

missed a kiill because i got eager on kick 😦

still baby league

[jovial torrent]

never know could get a good spree to 1950 for the enchant

[urban skiff]

womp womp

[thin thunder]

well.. how? mine are hitting like 3m crit 🧐

[urban skiff]

yea this shit is just funny

Man I need to get into the habit of keeping crash lightning buff up

[jovial torrent]

shame u dont get all specs weps with the token, wouldnt mind playing some enhance but cba going to bloody token weps

[urban skiff]

Do what I did

MAKE MORE SHAMANS

[fickle forge]

Wait until your enemies get eyes

[urban skiff]

it's not just about eyes

I drop it when hunters are mid-cast aimed shot and project it right behind them

it always drops on me so sometimes I can drop it out of LoS and move it after

[elfin surge]

[urban skiff]

what is wrong with you guys?

can you not appreciate art?

oh look at that, my win rate is positive now

[fickle forge]

Brother it's got 27 hits with 450k max

They are 100% not using their eyes

[urban skiff]

another good time is when warriors bladestorm

And guess what these fuckers did in sync?

Eyebeam too

in this specific case it was eyebeam i think

[fickle forge]

Yeah I mean, straight up inting

Wait until they get eyes

[urban skiff]

I think it's like everything else, you skillcheck early and if they ignore totems or they're a class that has to majorly disrupt their burst to deal with the totem it's a good pick regardless of rating

Drop it right behind the destro chain casting chaos bolts

I don't even think it needs LoS, just range. But that needs to be tested

[fickle forge]

I mean I have never ever seen anyone take big dam from counterstrike except on fresh mmr

[urban skiff]

if that's the case drop it around the corner of a pillar where the nameplate won't show

[urban skiff]

brother, if you don't use it you don't see it.

🙂

[fickle forge]

I mean nobody plays it for a reason

It insta dies

People are insta killing Tide Totem, they're doing it even faster to CS Totem

[urban skiff]

That's still making them hit something that isn't you, during their cooldowns

[fickle forge]

1 global man

[urban skiff]

bonus points if you put it in one spot and then move it when they run at it

[fickle forge]

Even the healer one taps it

[urban skiff]

project is off the gcd

It's a very niche pick and not for all levels of play

recognizing the specific situations where it's good at the level i play at is a reflection of my skill, not a reflection of their lack of skill. 👍

[rancid granite]

you look like Ratchet and Clank

[urban skiff]

Is that good?

[rancid granite]

yes

i was going for the 'im gonna tell my kids this was ratchet and clank' memes

but it made me laugh

[sterile moth]

Morning guys! How we doing?

[urban skiff]

almost went 6-0 vs 2 warriors and a dh as enh so pretty good

[sterile moth]

Yeah that’s awesome! Good work.

[urban skiff]

should have won too with this kind of damage. I feel like a lot of classes get carried by having ms effects ;S

[sterile moth]

No question

So enhance is good to very good?

[fickle forge]

Enh is mid af rn

[rancid granite]

skillcapped put'm at A or B right

not bad

[sterile moth]

Yeah not a lot of people play them either

[fickle forge]

Enh sucks pretty hard in shuffle

[rancid granite]

🙈

[sterile moth]

Flying under the radar!

[urban skiff]

Repectfully, i think people are underestimating enh right now.

[urban skiff]

Is fun as fuck in 2s tbh. Still haven't had time to play more than to 1800 mmr though so can't tell if it gets miserable later.

But the healing nerf really made 2s more relaxing so

[fickle forge]

It will man

Enh sham is completely worthless withou an MS 3s partner

As soon as you go against the hunter/rogue/warr teams etc. enh sham is toast

[urban skiff]

I dont need ms if my damage is bigger though 🐒

[polar pelican]

Hi just have a question . Which healer mate i do Pfeffer At Moment for me as Arms Warrior in 2s ?

[fickle forge]

It will not be

[sterile moth]

Tbh, we work well with most healers in 2s.

[polar pelican]

But when you can jose ? Atm ? Same skill capped

[sterile moth]

What

[fickle forge]

Cause warr brings the whole kit

Enh brings some ranged utility and burst

There's pretty much 0 an enh sham can do that an ele sham cannot do better

[urban skiff]

We can melee better

[fickle forge]

Yeah and bro's out here meleeing from 40 yd away

Cleaving everything in a 40 yd radius

[urban skiff]

You literally still describing enh

[fickle forge]

If only

[urban skiff]

Enh chain lightning needs longer range.

@sharp meteor what do you think? Is enh doomed in 2s?

[rancid granite]

Just play it better than other enh players

prot is doomed and kennie stomped with it anyway

"idk just win" mentality is kinda op

kinda relevant to the little engine that could

[green wharf]

Frost A

worse than unholy

[urban skiff]

tbh i'm just having fun with enh

I don't care about all the Meta Marvins and Sweaty Sandras one-shotting me while my healer is in all the cc.

Running into those random folks who made their way up alongside me and just duke it out in pure chaos with no coordination is just.. Peak 🙂

[rancid granite]

bro that aoe eats people up

[green wharf]

just walk out lul

also, use defensives there, frost deal no damage or pressure outside of it

[rancid granite]

tell that to my team lol

love when they're on my team I can just cc healer and burst whoever is inside of it

got so many kills on go

[green wharf]

war can just jump and use spell reflect to not be pushed

lot of casters can knockback

[urban skiff]

shaman can thunderstorm -> unleashed shield to put the dk outside grip range

[green wharf]

yeah, frost is a dead spec in arena, free frag

in blitzz you can still have some fun

[urban skiff]

The real fun is seeing this one go up. I wish there was a separate counter per season

[rancid granite]

lmao where do you see that

[urban skiff]

on seramate on your profile

[green wharf]

my pvp history

https://tenor.com/view/черный-gif-8284575235000460429

playing this shit since cata

[sharp meteor]

missed the best expac

[green wharf]

mop? i know

i didnt had the exp, was hardlocked at lv 85

but arms was the best there

[sharp meteor]

mop overrated sl goated

[clear spear]

What's better, colossus or a slayer

[green wharf]

killed so many lv 90 in outland

[rancid granite]

yes

[copper fox]

Slayer

[rancid granite]

@tribal holly i like how that guy is adapting to no emoji reactions by going old school lol

[tribal holly]

Yes remember history children

[sharp meteor]

still no emojis we're being oppressed

[rancid granite]

yeah we're remembering history of oppression right now

and its repeating itself

[sharp meteor]

time to use brokie emojis (uploading images)

[rancid granite]

@ late

[exotic forge]

Ironically I told someone in SS to stub their toe

They were an mm hunter

[scarlet barn]

Step on lego

[rancid granite]

lol

[tribal holly]

[rancid granite]

pepe is the best lol

bro i hate boomies

they top DPS meter and all you see all game is bear ass

[sterile moth]

@rancid granite a good boomkin completely blows my mind. Spend the whole game in perma CC too

[rancid granite]

right? lol

[urban skiff]

play enh

Break your healer out of the root instantly with a totem

[rancid granite]

speaking of totems what are the must haves to killing

i can't handle big ass hp bar / icon spam lol

huge list of nonsense

[exotic forge]

Static, Spirit Link, Counter and Wrath

Grounding too if you're playing with casters

[lavish quest]

Reactions when?

[rancid granite]

ty

[spice hornet]

There hasn’t been reactions ever right ? I don’t thhink we had them in 2019 but for some reason people can put images so it doesn’t rlly make sense

[rancid granite]

legend has it someone used a naughty emoji once upon a time so now its banned forever

because that makes a lot of sense

also it makes the mods feel special

[urban skiff]

check pins

[urban skiff]

tide too, m8

Also doesn't hurt to know where the surging totem is

@fierce elm am now rank 97, catchup up on you

[rancid granite]

patch notes looking legit tho

[wheat jay]

99% people here would do the squawk lmao

[urban skiff]

heck i already do that

[wheat jay]

see

[urban skiff]

HMMMM

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1dx0flc/anyone_can_be_duelist_a_solo_shufflearena_pvp/

This post says I can be a duelist if I'm average

[wheat jay]

fam

vesa was elite

everyone can be duielist

and elite

XD

[urban skiff]

which one is duelist

I always stop at 1800 so idk what anything above that is called

[wheat jay]

2100

elite is 2400

[urban skiff]

Wait so elite is 2400 but you get the elite appearance at 1800 and the elite weapon appearance at 2100?

what

[robust hearth]

@lavish quest ty

[wheat jay]

yes

elite title

see it used to work a bit different

it used to be 2400 for weapons, 2000 for armors, and any title, including gladiator and gladiator mount were based on % of hte ladder

if you were top 0.5% you were gladiator

right now R1 title works that way, its 0.1%

blizz just made pvp much easier to get rewards

[inner sigil]

how good is fury's fucking 4set

is everyone switching to thane now?

[spice hornet]

i think furys 4 set is ass

[copper fox]

@inner sigil too violent. you have to reset

[sharp meteor]

You can be below average and get elite.

[copper fox]

Especially blitz

Blitz doesn’t really become difficult for certain people until you’re @ the top .01% mmr games imo
Before that it’s general class and map knowledge

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, and a mental check to see if you can play 200 games with people who don't have their monitors plugged i.

[lavish quest]

Shots fired at the furry

[urban skiff]

you can, i can't

[sharp meteor]

Zercher you're terrible but there's people far worse at elite+ trust me.

[lavish quest]

Like me

[spice hornet]

🤣

[sharp meteor]

Toxic positivity.

[boreal veldt]

Yeah thats what blitz is for.

[urban skiff]

Elite would put me in the top3%

[sharp meteor]

Nah stats are a meme

elite is free

[urban skiff]

I mean I'm pretty close right now and I don't feel any different

[copper fox]

There’s people @ elite in blitz who don’t press buttons. I was in a 2400 game this season and an outlaw rogue was asking in chat how to cap the flag in wsg (the other team had the flag too). He didn’t know you can’t cap it while the other team had the flag

Blitz is a numbers game until top % mmr trust

You can go 0-8 then go 8-0 and be 2.8 mmr after that 8-0

[hot solstice]

I saw 3k blitz rogue who have never got pass duelist in 2s

[copper fox]

Yea there’s a few of them haha

Especially rogues specifically

And mages tbh

[urban skiff]

Just stop thinking of blitz as the same game as arenas.

You wouldn't complain that soccer players only score one or two goals per game when there's sometimes hundreds of goals in handball

[copper fox]

I think that’s his point

[hot solstice]

The problem with blitz is it gives ppl huge ego

[urban skiff]

I went 0-7 then 7-0 last season on my feral and it got me 1300 rating in s1, and my s2 i started at 1200 mmr.

So i'm pressing x to doubt

[hot solstice]

Apart of that I don’t care

[copper fox]

Then you were 0 mmr after that 0-7 lol

[urban skiff]

Never seen anyone with blitz based ego. Only the other way around "hurr durr i have 2300 shuffle im too good to play with you shitters at 1200 mmr" seen that Infinite number of times

[copper fox]

Oh dude blitz ego is so real

See it all the time

[violet fossil]

is it really

I just see shuffle ego

[copper fox]

Unwarranted ego? Yes

[urban skiff]

Suppose i can't see it happen outside blitz. I don't go actively looking for arena players.

Don't need lfg when i have a wife

[rancid granite]

blitz ego i think its just more team based pvp that brings it lol

like LoL

[copper fox]

For some reason

Ret pallys in blitz

Have massive egos lol

[rancid granite]

all the redditor mods playing pallys

checks out

[copper fox]

I don’t play warrior in blitz anymore I refuse to. I played 2 warriors last season in blitz and hated it

[urban skiff]

There's one who plays fury

[rancid granite]

like Late and his emoji reaction privs

[hot solstice]

War in blitz is fun unless it’s base cap map

[copper fox]

I just made my lock and rdruid my blitz chars lol I’m enjoying it more

[exotic forge]

4 set this week

[violet fossil]

do u even run 4 set

as fury

[thin thunder]

hi, i've been playing arms as a new pvp player. got to 1800 but i feel like im playing without a plan, randomly throwing ccs and stuff. which guide would you recommend so that i can learn a few things?

[rancid granite]

bajheera/magnusz/mud stream, youtube, and asking silly questions here

@craggy cliff any idea yet on 4pc for sub yet? :) hard yes hard no? maybe?

[craggy cliff]

🤷‍♂️

most people assume no but we'll see once more people test it

just run 2 until you hear otherwise

[rancid granite]

if its not a hard no im running 4pc along with arms

💪

[sterile moth]

4 piece for arms should be really good I think

Fury 4 piece is laughably weak

[rancid granite]

thats what i kinda assumed

and if not the best it wont be a huge diff and can just gear more properly as cap increases/lifts 🤷

[spice hornet]

what's the optiomal arms 4pc, meaning what piece do we not want

is it helm?

@sharp meteor @elfin surge

[sharp meteor]

operating with what stat prio

cos helm is big mastery

leg is big crit

id omit legs

although can see a case for crit cos u can highroll people

[robust hearth]

the add-on dont work @lavish quest

[lavish quest]

Why not? Click button and it adds the tracking to your achievement tracker

[robust hearth]

isnt doing anything

the acheivment im looking for is FOTS

so ic ant even search the achievment itself

until i earned it

nvm found it

dumb quests

ty

[urban skiff]

a little bit of crit

as a treat

tbh I'm loving how nobody targets enhancement in arenas

[boreal veldt]

my man

[rancid granite]

he's out of line but he's right

[low wren]

which pieces should i go with for tier as fury ??

feel like its helm gloves chest toss up between legs and shoulders shit itemization on stats

prob shoulders high haste over crit

[sharp meteor]

Chest and gloves.

[low wren]

i only need 2 piece ?

[sharp meteor]

Yep.

[low wren]

oh word fuck yea ty

[boreal veldt]

lmfao um quick question slayer arms boys

yall know Rend straight up doesn't proc Slayer Strike right

not Clap, but the single target Rend

Hamstring will but Rend won't

[urban skiff]

who's the resident ret expert in here?

how is this guy using crusader strike and verdict in the same global?

[sharp meteor]

Autos are crusader strike.

[urban skiff]

oh

[sharp meteor]

Or every other auto is. I don't remember.

It's called Crusading Strikes or something.

[fierce elm]

Im so fucking happy I got my PC up and running boys

time to grind solo shuffle

[rancid granite]

new pc better fps better graphics?

[fierce elm]

no lmao

just cleaned out and in a new apartment

got a new desk though

[urban skiff]

He moved and probably had to figure out how to get wired ethernet to it

[fierce elm]

naaa

they thought ahead in this apartment

and added ports in every room

[urban skiff]

I rebuilt my desk area ages ago and my wife's pc is still in its temporary spot

[fierce elm]

Did get a new desk though and its poggies

[urban skiff]

I also have the all new cat6+ cables colour coded to match our pc aesthetics still in the drawer :S

Because she has a the-tower-300 and that shits a real pain to plug cables into

[fierce elm]

Now just got the rest of the shit to set up

[urban skiff]

every single time I've moved, as soon as my desk and pc have been set up everything else grinds to a halt and some boxes literally never get opened again

[fierce elm]

lmao

GF is forcing me

I also got TV+PS5+Switch to set up

also gotta find a place for the router

[urban skiff]

yea the trick is to set her stuff up first so she doesn't nag you about what else you're doing

[fierce elm]

lmao

I got the couch up today too

Setting TV up tomorrow

Gotta say these Ikea gaming desks make everything a lot easier

while not looking fucking dumb as hell

[urban skiff]

Finally figured out how i just deleted a paladin

[rancid granite]

happy for u afro

[urban skiff]

the 1m hit at -1 sec was counterstrike totem

[fierce elm]

<@&257983573498265600>

[sharp meteor]

MODSSSSSS

Beat his skull with hammers

[slim saffron]

MY GIFTCARD!

[sharp meteor]

[fierce elm]

MODS

[boreal veldt]

I was so close to redeeming that one

[slim saffron]

the real april fools joke would be posting an actual free steam giftcard and seeing if anyone is dumb smart dumb enought to claim it

[urban skiff]

the real joke is the pin

🙂

[slim saffron]

This is a new channel for #⁠pvp - please behave like adults?

[urban skiff]

nonono

[urban skiff]

#pvp message

[boreal veldt]

PlEaSe BeHaVe LiKe AdUlTs

[slim saffron]

idk I think expecting pvpers to behavior like adults is the real joke

[fierce elm]

THATS WHAT WE SAID

Also the real april fools is Archim typing in here rn

[wheat jay]

?

[fierce elm]

that is wild

[sharp meteor]

ya me

[wheat jay]

archi's here so we gotta behave, right?

[slim saffron]

the dragonslayers are no better, just slightly less vitriolic in their unhinged screaming

[sharp meteor]

free nitro too gg

[rancid granite]

can't behave like adults if WE AREN'T TREATED LIKE ADULTS with out lack of emoji replies

[fierce elm]

lmao

[rancid granite]

@slim saffron can you turn on emoji replies and custom emojis

[fierce elm]

Our newest peeve is not having emoji reacts

[sharp meteor]

free nitro be like my angler fish

[slim saffron]

idk what you mean

[sharp meteor]

"whose dumb enough to fall for that" meeeeeeeeee

[wheat jay]

afro, wanna resume our conversation about rovicus?

[fierce elm]

no

Im gong to bed

[wheat jay]

lmao

[fierce elm]

Im busy moving rn

[wheat jay]

sleep well habibi

❤️

[slim saffron]

well that's rude

no emotes for you

[boreal veldt]

watching aatos getting stuntted on with reacts in my new fav pastime

[wheat jay]

jesus aatos

[rancid granite]

LOL

[wheat jay]

don't make them nuke pvp channel again with that toxicity

dumbass

[slim saffron]

it'd be so easy... and so many problems would be solved

[boreal veldt]

the hunter and shaman pvp community would be devestated

[rancid granite]

everyone would just invade pve channels causing more problems

[wheat jay]

you can say whatever you want, we neve had arcana level people in pvp

[slim saffron]

na, #pvp is kinda like Arkham Asylum: they know they can just leave at any time, but just being there keeps all the crazy in one place

[fierce elm]

: )

[rancid granite]

also works as a #fitness channel too

all the other class discords have emoji replies on though

[wheat jay]

ok i was gonna respond with a gif

[slim saffron]

I wish I could trust yall with that power 🥲

[wheat jay]

but i have 0 saved gifs that wouldn't get me banned here

see you can trust us

self control

👍

[rancid granite]

ngl the emoji thing is definitely weird like

what the hell happened

with emojis

that couldnt be done with gifs/text

[wheat jay]

bench chekc happened

[sharp meteor]

i harassed a glad buyer with credit card emoji in achi cord so probs something like that

[rancid granite]

lolol

[boreal veldt]

we definitely wouldn't have clown reacts on speed dial

[rancid granite]

but you can just

[wheat jay]

[rancid granite]

💳

same thing, more annoyance

[sharp meteor]

lil card popped up under his posts and he'd delete it like 15 secs later until a mod threatened me

[wheat jay]

ye i know some peolpe that would be spoammed with it haha

[sharp meteor]

idk why i was in a bad mood

maybe all the destros/frosts

[wheat jay]

destro is no issue for warr tho

[wheat jay]

frost mage is

[sharp meteor]

it was in cosmic

[slim saffron]

I'll think about it

ok I thought about it

[sharp meteor]

♥

[slim saffron]

and I think I'm gonna get a sandwich

[boreal veldt]

:[

[wheat jay]

sandwich check

[rancid granite]

weird power trip with these discord mods

[sharp meteor]

dang what kind of sammich

[rancid granite]

a sandwich with zero protein - all veggie probably

[wheat jay]

jesus aatos

relax

[slim saffron]

decision I don't like
WOW WEIRD POWER TRIP
🙄

[sharp meteor]

exactly

[rancid granite]

it is kinda weird though

even vulpera mains would agree

[wheat jay]

there's two

both degenerate

[rancid granite]

👍

[slim saffron]

idk, I have pastrami in the fridge, but I'm kinda feelin cheesesteak

[wheat jay]

one played 10k games to elite, other plays prot warr in pvp

[boreal veldt]

Aatos trying to 1v1 every mod

[rancid granite]

lol

[slim saffron]

I love when people do this btw

[rancid granite]

i just went thru my paladin and monk phase, i'm trying to combat evil and restore balance

[rancid granite]

typical reddit mod reply

[slim saffron]

[sharp meteor]

missin my dracthyr emojis

[sharp meteor]

hey prots fun

[wheat jay]

go away kennie

[sharp meteor]

although it started as a sort of side project cos i was bored i couldnt push glad first month

[wheat jay]

imagine if rwf worked like that

having to wait for inflation or dmg buffs to play normally

[sharp meteor]

honestly i dont mind so much now cos i do keys collection stuff blitz shuffle and 3s

having 6 months to wrap it all up is relaxed

esp when i afk first month almost entirely

cba with bugs and imbalances when gearin

everybody tryna blast early patch but its kind of nice to take it slow

[slim saffron]

splits ruined the RWF

[sharp meteor]

and just do some keys/raid

[slim saffron]

and high end raiding in general

[sharp meteor]

yuh

heroic spam to funnel kind of

i actuall yhavent watched race in a while

[boreal veldt]

Waiting for the new e-sport Delves to kick off

[sharp meteor]

fights are cool prep for fights aint

[wheat jay]

real

[wheat jay]

dude i was looking at some guilds cuz mine is on hiatus, and there's a guild that's like top 1000 or lower, and they raid 4 days a week, for 4 hours, and do splits

like hello?

[urban skiff]

fffffffffffffffffffffffff

[sharp meteor]

on the opposite end of the spectrum my guild has people with ungemmed 639 gear from last raid

[wheat jay]

lmao

we didnt have enough people

[sharp meteor]

bro gets sikran neck and doesnt put a gem in it for 5 months

[wheat jay]

and we came to the conclusion that we don't care about playing only hc since its easy

[sharp meteor]

doesnt log n unless its raid

[wheat jay]

and if we can't do mythic we dont even have to raid or play at all

[slim saffron]

yeah I refuse to join a guild that requires splits

[wheat jay]

same, its horrendous lol

you need alts for splits too, right?

[slim saffron]

I don't mind if they do it and they're optional, but I have no interest in required ones

[wheat jay]

its so stupid

[sharp meteor]

mandatory splits speedurn to burnout

[wheat jay]

playing more than one character is just a chore

[rancid granite]

whats a split?

[slim saffron]

strictly speaking yes, since the alts are needed to trade gear, so though some guilds with optional splits will let one-tricks play their main and just be a carry

[sharp meteor]

funnel runs to speed gear mains

which also means maintaining alts

[slim saffron]

Splits are when you run multiple raids with alts in order to funnel gear

[rancid granite]

oh that sounds super tryhard

[wheat jay]

you do a raid, 5 mains, 15 alts

[slim saffron]

it is

[sharp meteor]

ya

[wheat jay]

all gear that drops goes to 5 mains

and then you swap around

different 5 mains, different 15 alts

[sharp meteor]

like it makes sense its just

kind of unfun

[wheat jay]

it is

[rancid granite]

sounds fine if you're like, competing and gonna get prize money somehow for it Lol

[wheat jay]

then you watch rwf, and its 80% splits

and i don't thinkt there's a simple way of fixing it

other than making mythic give you a preset of stats and ilvl

like legion pvp kinda

but then mythic loses its main appeal, giving you highest ilvl gear xD

[slim saffron]

there's no direct prize money for the race (unless you're chinese, anyway), though they definitely make money off it

[urban skiff]

It's not that tryhard if you think about it

You play a lot of pvp because you enjoy it. I assume people who do splits do so because they really enjoy playing

[rancid granite]

i mean if i could use alts to help gear my main for pvp i would do it np i guess =p

[urban skiff]

yea exactly

and if you did it by running 1600 pvp ?

Sure, split raids are time consuming, we never bothered with them

[sharp meteor]

u can pve to help main

[urban skiff]

We had a more semi-split approach where mythic raiders had priority on loot from the social raid, so they'd show up to that on their mains when they were benched for specific bosses

[sharp meteor]

i got 678 legs chest and helm on kenns without spendin conqs

[urban skiff]

this tbh, i just gave up when i realized how many delves and m+ i had to run for one piece

[rancid granite]

damn i should do that ngl

[urban skiff]

ain't nobody got time for that

[rancid granite]

i want KSM this season too

[sharp meteor]

doesnt rly matter now but its comfy early seas

[urban skiff]

why? 2 more weeks and you can buy full conq when you mix in a few bloody token pieces

[rancid granite]

mostly just to chill and pve for fun

[urban skiff]

Suppose it's good for replacing bloody token gear with crafted gear though

also remember you can't pvp socket those pieces

[rancid granite]

pve is always more fun when theres the small incentive for pvp though imo

wouldn't mind a new fyrlath axe

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm you're going to love this

I forgot i need gems for the lens

[wheat jay]

That juicy stream money

And I'd believe them to be making a bank from rmt

[fickle forge]

Putting out the names of anyone who dodges

[urban skiff]

did you win

[fickle forge]

Look at the board bro

[spice hornet]

Gigadwarf is a jump scare

[urban skiff]

what?

[urban skiff]

Yea i saw the ret leave

I'd feel like that was a win, but idk how you feel about it

But watching someone just give up? It's kind of cool.

[fickle forge]

This is why he gave up

He's 3.3k and got no R1s

Leaves cause he thinks he's better

[exotic forge]

I don't like when people give up

Give me a fight, dammit

[urban skiff]

that's a big clap wth

[boreal veldt]

bout to start gearing my priest wtf

Orbital Death Ray of Hope*

[fickle forge]

Uh

Yeah

On your teammate

[wheat jay]

I don't think bless knows what ray does xD

[exotic forge]

Delays damage and healing (the delayed healing is increased)

Used to be so broken back in Legion

[spice hornet]

Lmfao…

The warrior discord has some interesting creatures

[exotic forge]

@elfin surge weird stream title bro

[vivid pumice]

that's because unlike other class discords instead of complaining about how every class is better than ours, we mostly just talk about how much we love playing other classes

when warrior does come up it's usually in the context of how much fun it is to absolutely truck people in pvp

[spice hornet]

is he stremaing roblox again

[exotic forge]

Worse, it's moonguard rp

[wheat jay]

Mud doing erp?

[low wren]

someone link me stream ❤️

[wheat jay]

@elfin surge confess your sins son, so they may be absolved

[rancid granite]

this week was good week for loot

demolishing people in Bless's place

[open zephyr]

For fury warrior, how much vers mastery haste % do we want ?

[ebon steeple]

My stats outside of pvp is about 15% haste, 40 mastery, vers is around 24%

[robust hearth]

@green wharf

[green wharf]

not a sigma winrate

i had no time to do pvp after i got the DK set

[spice hornet]

Idk just inspect the top 3 fury warrs and copy the most common setup (I say top 3 in case 1 is logged out in arms gear or is trying something not normal)

[urban skiff]

I think i love this discord because we're just here enjoying the game in all aspects

we just want to have fun

[naive crest]

lf war some 3s ~2k ww/holy

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff you will decide my fate

do I just send 4 set or not

[urban skiff]

Arms or no

[fierce elm]

I mean I will be playing both lmao

[urban skiff]

Get the 4set

[fierce elm]

Sending 4 set baby

its joever

[urban skiff]

People shit on it as if they know for a fact how good or bad it is. The only cost is gaining a bit of crit to get extra power outside ilvl

[fierce elm]

Im just yolo sending it

who cares

uncapped conq soon anyways

[urban skiff]

True

I haven't spent anything on my warrior yet except two smallest pieces of bloody tokens gear

I should get to that

[fierce elm]

Yeah considering getting the Bloody token boots

its the only upgrade left

but its crit but w.e

[urban skiff]

Ilvl used to always be better than what secondary stats something had

Somehow that philosophy changed without there being any mechanical reasons

[fierce elm]

lmao fair

But grabbing boots allows me to get trinket next week

Someone has probably tested this but I do wonder if you can extend the 4 set bonus by utilizing the winning streak gathered during it

because you can get winning streak while 4 set is active

[urban skiff]

I've had many seconds of doom winds on my shaman so i don't see why not

[fierce elm]

More wondering if it extends the stacks already applied

or if it replaces the stack on your current winning streak instead

[urban skiff]

arms or fury?

[fierce elm]

Arms

[urban skiff]

hmmm

I can't think of a test scenario that doesn't involve custom weakauras or having to stare religiously at buffs / record it

[fierce elm]

I mean you can just stare at it

I just cba testing it out lmao

[urban skiff]

How I'd expect it to handle:
Realistically, you're not going to replace a 10-stack with a 10-stack

So they need to handle different stacks somehow

[fierce elm]

That is what I am thinking about

[urban skiff]

I'd expect it to roll two simultaneous buffs, but only the oldest or strongest is active

[fierce elm]

if it just extends the 10 stack if you have 10 buffs

or if you just cant extend or add onto it

[urban skiff]

so if you have a 10 stack and get a 1 stack after 5 seconds, it should be 5 more seconds of 10 stack, then 5 seconds of 1 stack.

[fierce elm]

but just build up for next stack

[urban skiff]

Probably knowing blizzard, you can't get a winning streak proc until 10 seconds later

It would be the elegant solution in terms of coding

[fierce elm]

you mean the Jackpot

[urban skiff]

yeah

[fierce elm]

we are gonna use two different words here lmao

or it gets MAD confusing

[urban skiff]

That jackpot prevents a new jackpot

[fierce elm]

That is actually how I think it work

Jackpot prevents jackpot but allows you to build stacks during it

[urban skiff]

I've seen back to back doomwinds but enh is more elegant than that

[fierce elm]

However, it seems absolutely bonkers for what it gives you

like even at 5 stacks it gives you 5% haste and 10% MS damage

is that not fucking wild

am I crazy

[urban skiff]

I wish for pvp, they hadn't nerfed the numbers this time around but halved the number of stacks

[fierce elm]

also idk if the tooltip is wrong

or how it calculates it

the buff said 20% MS damage at 10 stacks while hitting pvp dummy

either way it seems dummy good

[fierce elm]

yeah, get stacks

then read the Jackpot buff

[urban skiff]

I can't

[fierce elm]

I could have read wrong in my delirium while moving

aight gimme a sec

[urban skiff]

i forgot to gear my warrior

[fierce elm]

I think its the dummy

[urban skiff]

pvp dummies are weird right now

[fierce elm]

Or tooltips saying the wrong thing on the buff

[urban skiff]

apparently they only activate some modifiers, but tooltips change correctly iirc

[fierce elm]

this aint right lmao

[boreal veldt]

when some buff/ability lies in a weird subgroup the dummy just doesn

't adjust

[fierce elm]

figured

[boreal veldt]

much like my non desire to edit a post

[urban skiff]

worse yet, before they revamped peewave in 11.1, you couldn't use it on pvp dummies at all no matter what

[fierce elm]

well

uh

[urban skiff]

Because it defaulted to try and use the shadowlands version

[fierce elm]

Either the dummy is bugged as fuck

or they have fucked up the tier set scaling in pvp

It did give me 20% haste

on 10 stacks

[urban skiff]

time to queue skirmish

lol

[fierce elm]

while hitting dummy

I mean I gotta live to get it going

[boreal veldt]

oh yeah dummy doesn't cut it by 50%

[fierce elm]

But it cuts the tooltip

[boreal veldt]

much like op

[fierce elm]

what the fuck BLIZZARD

[urban skiff]

this isn't just 50%

[fierce elm]

what the fuck is the point of he pvp dummy

[urban skiff]

overpower at max stacks should be +20% but tooltip is +50%

[fierce elm]

if it doesnt PROC my tier set correctly

[urban skiff]

for me it's literally just to get my pvp stats so I can see what I'll have in combat

if I could press a button to activate pvp ilvl scaling I'd probably not bother with pvp dummy

[fierce elm]

stupid ass dummy tbh

[boreal veldt]

thats a double negative

quit complimenting the dummy

[fierce elm]

BIG DUMPY DUMMY

anyways tier set seems cracked

or I just fucked up

The fury one seems doo doo but we yolo it over here

[urban skiff]

How do you gear if the goal is to play both arms and fury with the same set? I asked bajheera but he said full send all haste and idk

[fierce elm]

A mix of haste and master

and accepting that I wont be minmaxxed

Does that work lmao

[urban skiff]

full haste fury is giving me the ick after i did full haste in s1

[dense herald]

wait what

[urban skiff]

Do you remember my ridiculous experiment?

[fierce elm]

arms outside of PvP

[dense herald]

didnt op get nerfed in pve aswell

[fierce elm]

it does

the tooltip is just nerfed

on dummy

[dense herald]

or is that the nerf frrom 60% to 50%

[fierce elm]

All my fury is just add another weapon

The tooltip is just bugged*

sorry

[boreal veldt]

ok but

and

hear me out

[urban skiff]

you're literally right next to a dummy. Tag it and post those stats

[fierce elm]

Is this not a cracked mount

I aint

im at the trading post

[fierce elm]

lmao what the fuck

[urban skiff]

horde and access to horse mounts

[urban skiff]

ngl, i like crit

if nothing else than to annoy people who say crit is bad

[boreal veldt]

yeeeEEEEEE

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[fierce elm]

does one just send the garden gnome mog

[urban skiff]

enh pvp discord trying to say 4set is bad because you have to get crit is just weird

[boreal veldt]

if you run crit you have no choice but to garden gnome/clown

[urban skiff]

it's less than 1% if running cursed mastery

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff

[urban skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-kid-shouting-yes-yess-gif-12254544011488707697

[fierce elm]

fury

[urban skiff]

wife is gonna fall off a chair when I finally fully gear war and go arms

actually no, because she's seen my enh damage and it's not like war can keep up

[fierce elm]

But yeah you an gear both

if accepting that you wont be a minmaxxed player

[urban skiff]

when you can't even hit 3m dps because shit keeps dying too soon

enh class colour is blue because it represents the blue balls of never getting to ramp your damage up to full throttle before it's over

https://wowarenalogs.com/match?id=b1025adf5584defc17d1526125124e04&roundId=undefined