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spice hornet
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either, or lower

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also when you get that low you also encounter people doing the same thing, so if they leave before you, you win and it goes up lmao

sharp meteor
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I remember some guy was complaining about wintraders and another person asked what he was seeing

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and he had like a photograph of his monitor in a 680 mmr shuffle

fierce elm
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lmao

spice hornet
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Lmao

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They need to add spectator mode

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I’d watch those lobbies all day

sharp meteor
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Need a shuffle saltyteemo

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where you can spectate the lowest mmr match in the region

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just watch a nightborne bdk chase a goblin hunter with no pet around a pillar for 40 seconds

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while the hpriest solos the arms warrior

rancid granite
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my favorite league of legends videos were "bronze or diamond?" and you could never tell

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im sure there's WoW videos just the same

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'is it 500 mmr or 2000 mmr?' watching the matches

urban skiff
fierce elm
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straight up lmao

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some of them arent human

rancid granite
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100% gremlins

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but then again im a gremlin on some of my off-days

fierce elm
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Source: Have played League in pretty much every bracket lmao

rancid granite
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yeah the videos you'd get it wrong everytime rofl

fierce elm
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Same in SS

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no difference at 2.1k compared to 1400 lmao

rancid granite
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the newbies accidentally doing some epic god like plays is just :chef kiss:

spice hornet
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i dont play league

fierce elm
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Naaa

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Just that its extremely hard to tell

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There are absolutely people that just luck into a rank

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Like, if we gave you a snippet of a SS game I doubt you can place them accurately

rancid granite
spice hornet
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Ah

urban skiff
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lost 111 mmr last time so probs losing another 111 mmr now

sharp meteor
fierce elm
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ever tried just winning every game

urban skiff
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i have no idea why i'm starting at 1200 MMR and worse yet, why it's dropping so fast

urban skiff
fierce elm
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lmao

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I mean

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I mean

urban skiff
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we had a cyrillic prot paladin

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half the team spoke german

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that leaves 3 people who speak english, of which me and my wife are two of them

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🥴

urban skiff
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I got 1800 in shuffle too

fierce elm
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Gotta hit 2.2 in shuffle

wheat jay
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Gratz man

fierce elm
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so I can show up on Murlok

wheat jay
fierce elm
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yyes

wheat jay
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Go get pve gear

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Noobfro

fierce elm
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no lmao

urban skiff
fierce elm
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I should be like a 4-2 away

rancid granite
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monk can get 2 tonfas

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sweet

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ok jk if a stave is BIS best you can do is legion artifacts

indigo barn
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Is this the new BIS pvp mog?

wheat jay
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My new monk mog peaked

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Look at this shit

green wharf
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elf

wheat jay
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And theres like 20 diff helmets that work

wheat jay
wheat jay
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I won few games cuz I purged bop

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Or alter time

fierce elm
green wharf
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zzz

fierce elm
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I like it

rancid granite
fierce elm
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I love the charger mount

spice hornet
fierce elm
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How can locks hit 2.2 without knowing how to kite

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and how to not fucking die

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while doing 0 damage lmao

wheat jay
fierce elm
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Yeah but they aint got someone boosting them in SS

craggy geyser
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quick question, is it elemental focusing on both rings?

fierce elm
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yes

craggy geyser
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ty

craggy geyser
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ty for quick reponse lol

fierce elm
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just sitting queue anyways lmao

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addicted to wow

copper fox
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I made a warlock alt this season

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Huge mistake

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I suck

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Melee brain can’t comprehend the art of casting

craggy geyser
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?

fierce elm
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can only have two

craggy geyser
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ahh

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noob i am

frank knoll
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How long does it take to gear up now
Thinking of coming back

fierce elm
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not long

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If you have honor already its fast as fuck

frank knoll
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I don’t even know how much honor I have but I know I have those pots that give you buffed honor

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Semester is almost done so I have time for PvP again

rancid granite
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don't even need much honor; do weeklies in dorno and undermine and look for bloody token wq's

hasty fractal
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So how does arms feel since the buff? I am very comfortable playing both, but it does affect gearing choices and spending conq. 😦 Wish they both had same stat priority.

fierce elm
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good

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it feels good

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you can gear both on the same character without issue

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I would just prioritize haste until the 20%-25% mark and then dump into mastery

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its what I am doing at least

hasty fractal
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In S1 I was fury and had all mast gear/gems/enchants. Had really shit haste for arms.

fierce elm
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Yeah, you want to slam like 20% haste anyways on fury

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so you can run Powerful Enrage without being fucked

exotic forge
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Instructions unclear, currently playing Arms with 32% mastery

hasty fractal
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Ok cool

fierce elm
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@elfin surge You gotta stop this Laros stream

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we cant have them be placing Fury and Arms in S-tier

halcyon trail
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For me Rend usually does very little damage even when I keep it up almost 100% of the time. Why does everyone pick that talent?

fierce elm
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There are some that dont pick it

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but its basically free damage

halcyon trail
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So it isn't that big of a deal if I pick something else then?

elfin surge
fierce elm
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Also, sort of forced to take Rend

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In order to get bloodborne

elfin surge
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he always put war S tier even when its dog

fierce elm
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I mean is he wrong though lmao

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Or is just Rdruid thunder that good

elfin surge
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he is omega cooked for not putting sub S tier

halcyon trail
elfin surge
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this is an AWC/r1 3s tier list

fierce elm
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I mean yeah obv

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But is Thunder only good because of state of rdruid

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We need Laros to stop saying Warrior feels really good

spice hornet
elfin surge
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ye

green wharf
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after playing other melees, arms still feels trash, overpower not generating rage is absurd

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every class have a builder

exotic forge
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You don't need to worry about rage in pvp

fierce elm
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Yeah we have too much rage in pvp lmao

exotic forge
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Never struggled with it, personally

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I think the only time it was an "issue" was in WoD

torn sigil
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over under on nerfed within a month?

fierce elm
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over

torn sigil
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xd

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yea tbh

boreal veldt
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and i love meme builds

fierce elm
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Yeah you could not use it

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but you are missing out on two good talents

boreal veldt
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exactly, even slayer which doesn't have a bleed modifier in it's hero talents is better off with it

green wharf
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and the problem is a bad design related to it

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i dont see why arms is the only spec without a builder

robust hearth
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u want thme to spamm slam to build rage to hit a mortal strike?

fierce elm
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You dont grab haste for the rage gain brother bear

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you gain rage by being attacked, which you are going to be

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all our rage gain in PvP is practically just being hit

boreal veldt
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which we are always being hit

fierce elm
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yeah we are a good kill target

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which is why colo arms is gaining popularity over slayer arms

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comparable damage but more survivability

boreal veldt
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5% bigger is why

fierce elm
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that too

exotic forge
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My rage bar fills faster irl against mages

fierce elm
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you do feel pretty fucking swagger when you Demolish a kidney or some shit

boreal veldt
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i feel swagger when demolish lands its last hit

fierce elm
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Thinking about racechanging tauren

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purely for size

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Highmountain for another charge tbh

urban skiff
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I think you can use HMT charge while using demolish

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😮

robust hearth
urban skiff
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Fuck yeah

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You're the goat

robust hearth
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should i do monk warlock or evoker next

urban skiff
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aug evoker

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do a challenge run

robust hearth
hollow plover
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In what situation do i wanna press WhirlWind? I just found out u even had it in my spell book, i swear it appears and disappears from there

fierce elm
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never

urban skiff
exotic forge
fierce elm
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As much as I dislike the Prot mains here that play blitz

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they arent playing MM hunter in blitz at least

urban skiff
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prot mains are fine

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just treat them like augs

fierce elm
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No they need to be purged

urban skiff
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They're your special little friends with thick hats that protect the soft spot

fierce elm
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They also need giga Therapy

robust hearth
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afro needs to chill

fierce elm
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Am I wrong

robust hearth
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yes

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extremeely

fierce elm
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Pick Blitz as your gamemode, play it religiously. Then pick a tank on top of that

fierce elm
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and not like a cool tank either

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but prot

robust hearth
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wat u mena prot does big executes

fierce elm
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Tbf there is only one cool tank in my mind

robust hearth
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Kungen?

fierce elm
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and there are like 2 people total in the world that plays Brewmaster

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lmao

robust hearth
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worldpvp isna chill guy

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in-game

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in discord ehs a menace lol

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Mr top 93 arms, I'm #top 44 mm and while all the other mm hunters r playing sentinel I was playing dark ranger okayge

fierce elm
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bro are you good lmao

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oh my god the edit that is still fucked up lmfao

robust hearth
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Bruh I'm fried af

fierce elm
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I appreciate you in the way I can appreciate a trainwreck

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I just want you to know that

robust hearth
robust hearth
urban skiff
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are you on murlok??

glossy island
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Boys i had to hit somebody the secret tech

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3 ms 2 slams 2 overpowers in 4 seconds through emerald communion

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What they know about arms double tap

fierce elm
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hey man where screenshot

glossy island
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Shout out the pve 2 mil non crit clutch

exotic forge
glossy island
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Better?

fierce elm
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also ravager what the fuck

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CLEAVE

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what the hell

glossy island
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Secret tech as i said

fierce elm
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Print screen button big man

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or windows+shift+s

exotic forge
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^

glossy island
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Sorry phone

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Yea so rather than rend and rend talents

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Cleave auto slams if u hit two

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Slam baseline is same as ms in arena

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And ravager ms casts hit for 1 mil each

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Off gcd

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Try once come back and tell me

fierce elm
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This has already been tested

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lmao

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we saw this theorycrafted at season start

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Pretty sure @boreal veldt cooked this exact same build which is hilarious

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also blizzard I know its 7am but someone has to be playing

urban skiff
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Just looked like too much work for me to try it

fierce elm
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fair

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FUCK

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missed my chance to jump 1400 to 1800 in SS

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because a healer left

wheat jay
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Rip

urban skiff
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less than half as many shuffles last season to get 1800

fierce elm
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Fucking Phone queues annoy the fuck out of me

urban skiff
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2025 and you're still making calls

fierce elm
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My electric companies website is mad confusing brother

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gotta report my move lmao

fickle forge
fierce elm
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Alright some of you tried to cook the same build

urban skiff
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Put your foolish ambitions to rest and join me in the halls of valhalla

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Reject death knight and embrace the rolling thunder of thigh slappin' enhancement

vocal hull
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guys, do we use whirlwind as arms much? If not, ill use it keybinds for something else good

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its on Q atm cus of pve

urban skiff
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Only if you have fervor talented

urban skiff
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fervor should straight up replace slam with whirlwind

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would be cool

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And they should bake hamstring into overpower

vocal hull
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@fierce elm thanks, ill replace the keybind for heroic leap

green wharf
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#reworkarms

fierce elm
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Sure

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Doesnt matter though

green wharf
fierce elm
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I like a change in gameplay loop honestly

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not every spec needs to be builder spender

green wharf
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we are a spender spec

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we just dont have a builder

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LUL

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literally the only spec in the game like that

urban skiff
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The fat teat that never stops giving

fierce elm
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Turbo was looking good yday

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but it was also Saul and bigdam lmao

fickle forge
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"This comp was looking really good when <insert best player in the world of said spec here> was playing it"

vocal hull
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Wich 2h do i get from warmode vendor?

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polearm, sword ?.. actually ill take sword

fierce elm
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dont lmao

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stop

vocal hull
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OK?

fierce elm
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You get free conq weapons when you get 2500 conquest earned

vocal hull
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fk

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2 late lol'

fierce elm
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Unless you want it for transmog and in that case ignore me

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lmao

vocal hull
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already equipped cant sell back lol

fierce elm
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Lets say it was for transmog

vocal hull
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lets pretend that, cus i know i will never use it for transmog lo

grand echo
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In a few years youll look back and think.. damn thats a cool mog

exotic forge
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For now, feel stupid

rain verge
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What do you do as fury in constant slow/roots? any tips ?

green anchor
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reroll windwalker

copper fox
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ww easier to kite than fury ngl

hot solstice
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At least ww has no hamstring problem

copper fox
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True

fickle forge
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Wish my WW would press it

wheat jay
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I do fuck you mean

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People are always on root dr when you play with me

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Jesus...

fickle forge
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What the fuck do you mean root DR

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You're the only one with a root

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Not like it impacts your slow

craggy geyser
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Lmao I’m just here for the art and Kar show

fierce elm
craggy geyser
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Lmao

wheat jay
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I MEAN THAT I USE IT A LOT

grand echo
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0cr blitz sure is something

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just waited 35min for a team that camped inactive bases on eye of the storm all game

green wharf
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but that its blizz fault

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new people join the map, thinking is the same shit as normal bg

grand echo
rancid granite
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don't forget to tell them that's not how it works 5 seconds before the game ends

urban skiff
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and blaaaaaaast them

brazen horizon
rancid granite
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best map

brazen horizon
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Getting punished for capping the flag

It's objectively broken

rancid granite
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its called strategy

brazen horizon
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On some level I think the "death grip/push the FC into the capture point" meta is interesting but it's a result of a disasterous implementation of the map

Holding flag all game is already a better option on normal EOTS, but if you play the game normally it at least functions, in Blitz EOTS even at the hyper casual level a capped flag is a massive blunder and fuck up for your team

brazen horizon
rancid granite
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its called just play the game its fine

brazen horizon
rancid granite
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is retail supposed to be bad or something i dont get that statement 😭

brazen horizon
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Retail is fun but has lots of flaws, it has plenty more they've made lots of headway on fixing, so there's no reason to NOT be open when something in the game sucks ass

brazen horizon
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It's ok to ask more than "fine" out of the billion dollar company we pay 15 monthly to

rancid granite
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dont gotta pay and even if you do it doesnt mean you get to direct the game

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one mans trash is another persons treasure

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🙏

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some things are just never good enough to some people 😔

spice hornet
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@elfin surge tried showing your tier list to my deep fried buddy, he actually agreed with it except ele

vapid tartan
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Ppl do it a decent amount

elfin surge
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also ele rdruid (anything with an ms) is an s tier comp rn

spice hornet
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ah. i thought its perfect tho. i just havent played much this week so wasnt sure about how ele is, he is cooked

elfin surge
spice hornet
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he's very cooked. theorycrafts his own stuff

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kept telling me aff was bad

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because all the stuff that counters it is good

brazen horizon
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That's supposed to put you ahead

vapid tartan
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How

rancid granite
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or just wait to be in an advantageous situation to cap the flag

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???

vapid tartan
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If you wipe them then cap flag you get to new bases before them

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Most cases you get 1 node for free

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And spin the other

elfin surge
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@spice hornet the tier list was ranked considering good players are on the classes. AWC & r1s

brazen horizon
vapid tartan
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It’s not tho??

rancid granite
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yeah you're just making up problems idk

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if you do something in an 'advantageous situation' and it becomes something detrimental...... then it wasn't advantageous

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?_?

spice hornet
brazen horizon
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Almost to a 9th grade level

rancid granite
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ok explain it better

vapid tartan
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Capping the flag at the right time puts you ahead idk where the confusion is

rancid granite
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capping the flag at the wrong time is bad and thats somehow a bad design flaw is what im hearing

vapid tartan
brazen horizon
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The entire problem is that capturing the flag, one of the major focuses of the game mode, is something that causes chaos and a vulnerable situation for your team if you cap the flag is an insane balancing decision.

It's insane for two reasons:
It's not how EOTS works, it's better to wait in normal EOTS, but you don't lose control of your base entirely. Blitz versions of maps are supposed to be faster versions of the original, not massive rebalances

In any game mode, from a pure game design perspective, doing the thing you are supposed to do to succeed in the multiplayer game having major negative ramifications if you don't wait like 8 minutes or whatever is arbitrary and completely obtuse for an incoming player to figure out. You've never played CTF in halo and had to wait 8 minutes or the flag fucks you over, it's not how any other blitz or battleground map works either. No game has ever done this before Blitz EOTS because it's a bad idea from top to bottom

which is exactly why the map sees so many idiots guarding inactive bases and fucking over teams in inordinate amount compared to any other map in Blitz. The map is a mess of poor design that doesn't even try to explain what it's doing

fickle forge
rancid granite
sharp meteor
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hold on bro lemme pull up drustvar

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dang arcane low rep f tier again

brazen horizon
rancid granite
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i am very confused because it seems like you're saying the map sucks because of Halo, and because if you do something bad it leads to bad outcomes

spice hornet
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Guess it has sucked all this time

brazen horizon
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Here I'll even get you started

fickle forge
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What is this dude yapping about

sharp meteor
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Idk he was rambling nonsense in another cord

elfin surge
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AI taking over

sharp meteor
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Slightly discouraging.

brazen horizon
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🫃

sharp meteor
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Some guy was telling me gearing takes too many weeks I ask how he figures

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he sends a wall of ai generated instructions about how you need to grind 2100 cr to be able to upgrade gear

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(6-8 weeks)

sand sundial
brazen horizon
hollow plover
sharp meteor
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I think it's made worse by blitz being easy to exist and climb in by being a body

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so plenty of headless people in relatively high games

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it should never own u to cap an obj tho

sand sundial
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Blitz mentioned raaaa

hollow plover
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Since there isnt actually any resources that explain gamenodes

sharp meteor
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if there was

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people wouldnt read it

sand sundial
sharp meteor
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idk why people worried about people sucking

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always gotta be people at lower end of the ladder

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annoying short term when u get them on ur team tho ye

hollow plover
sharp meteor
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but they exist for better players to walk over the bodies of

sand sundial
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If you kill offense people on CtF or kill the flag carry etc. It'd do wonders for mmr

spice hornet
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Blitz really needs to give diff rewards. Doesn’t make any sense. Even just a diff color of the PvP gear is fine.

The way it is now, would be like having LFR drop the same sets as Mythic

sharp meteor
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all modes giving same rewards legit so doomed

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it owned low-mid mmr 2s and 3s so hard

brazen horizon
rancid granite
spice hornet
sharp meteor
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get title noob

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its legit 2k warrs who get it

sand sundial
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Title is kinda ez for blitz ye

brazen horizon
sharp meteor
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and ya higher difficulties should give lower mogs

sand sundial
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I don't mind gear..maybe give different cosmetic(s)

sharp meteor
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i should never have a reason to touch lfr

brazen horizon
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Mythic appearances aren't really locked to being a progression mythic raider as it is

sharp meteor
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u can get full mythic mog doin delves

sand sundial
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Then catalyst

brazen horizon
sharp meteor
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decent trinkets in delvos

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cheevos too :3

brazen horizon
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Tfw no glory of the Delver season 2deadge

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I wanted a new beetle or whatever but it's just the same cheevos with Zekvir removed and Underpin swapped in

brazen horizon
sand sundial
stuck mulch
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hows pvp atm

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after the changes

rancid granite
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you can tell korja got done getting stomped on EOTS

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and while i agree in-game guides for everything would be nice, the lack of it does help people, you know, communicate i guess

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countless websites, youtube, etc

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if people wanna learn they will if they dont no in-game explanation would help lol

brazen horizon
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🫃

rancid granite
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@wheat jay i just realized monk class temple is a giant turtle lmao

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i am fully loving my monk arch

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is it the pandaran starting zone too?

fierce elm
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yes

rancid granite
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god damn i really missed out on that expac

sand sundial
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It was awesome when it was new tbh

jovial torrent
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i should have raided more that patch, i didnt try challenge mode cus i was in pvp gear only, did wod tho

boreal veldt
jovial torrent
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i wana play mop classic when it releases but we dont really know if challenge mode mog will be switched over to retail, pvp enchant would be nice too but the classic lfg tool is trash

copper fox
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Nothing will ever be switched over from classic to retail…

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Ever

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We really do know

stuck mulch
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hows arms after buffs

jovial torrent
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never know, im sure alot of ppl when they stop classic will want their char transfered to retail

rancid granite
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SKILLCAPPED made arms and fury A+ tier

sharp meteor
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didnt it also put pres at s tier and rdruid at like b tier because bigmoran is the least biased player

rancid granite
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so you're saying it should be S tier

fierce elm
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lmal

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Classic is its separate thing and Blizzard has been absurdly clear about that

fierce elm
jolly narwhal
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my cancelaura BS macro is bricked i think

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can someone share theirs

boreal veldt
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we can probably fix it

jolly narwhal
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but the binding is grey'd out

boreal veldt
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might be a relog situation or ui bug

spice hornet
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It wasn’t like, insane though

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And SOO lasted a really really long time

fierce elm
jolly narwhal
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relog worked tysm

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dunno why I didn't try that

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just assumed was broke

fierce elm
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Always relog first, blizzard coding is spaghetti

boreal veldt
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i used to get that bug in df when i changed talents out of hurricane sometimes

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good to know it's still around lmfao

jolly narwhal
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yeah I think that was it actually

jovial torrent
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@fierce elm will have to see, im sure they will get thousands of forum/reddit posts when classic ends and ppls chars are stranded on a dead endless legion server or somthig

fierce elm
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Will have to see

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yeah in like 5 more expansions I guess

jovial torrent
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they will 100% do mop, then do they skip wod to get straight to legion and end it

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or actually try and go all the way through but accelerated

rancid granite
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but RP-wise mop, legion, shadowlands were all super cool

wheat jay
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Shadoqlands best

hot solstice
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Nothing beats going 79-80 in wotlk in storm peaks while that one song is playing

spice hornet
spice hornet
wheat jay
sharp meteor
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sl owned aside from rm being unkillable and whenever hpriest was s+++ tier

hot solstice
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S1-s2 pvp trinkets bonus was the best

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Idk why they changed it

wheat jay
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Pvp gameplay was peak in shadowlands

boreal veldt
wheat jay
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Real

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@fickle forge send some kfc clips, i know you got like 50 saved

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We're doing nostalgia now

fierce elm
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There is only one good SL clip

wheat jay
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The one I trapped a shadow priest when kargish had sudden death proc, and popped every single cd on the planet?

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Good times

fierce elm
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Its the Afro return to monke clip

wheat jay
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Avatar, cs, banner, sudden death

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Freezing trap

elfin surge
spice hornet
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Focused on pve at the start then went to do 3s and realized nobody was qing, had 10 minute queues for 3s at like 2200 and I was like nope

robust hearth
viscid ridge
#

4 set looks kinda ass for arms no?

sharp meteor
#

Looks kind of ass for Fury.

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Owns for Prot and probably good for Arms.

rancid granite
#

arms likes all the stats anyway so hard to go wrong?

viscid ridge
#

Crit thou

rancid granite
#

colossus >:D

viscid ridge
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I mean, potential 10% extra MS for 12 seconds yeah alright

sharp meteor
#

shoulders heavily haste weighted

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helm heavily mastery

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idk a crumb of crit for colo arms pretty inoffensive

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its prob like omit legs for prot/arms and fury just grabs chest and gloves

viscid ridge
sharp meteor
#

blizz can always randomly buff pvp mods tho if tier is just terrible and not played so subject to change etc

stuck mulch
#

do you guys have 4 set yet? idk if i have enough catalysts for that

boreal veldt
#

ye but don't stress, 4p is pretty negligible

stuck mulch
#

how did u get 4 set hmmNod

boreal veldt
#

vault had a tier piece in it so instead of buying conq shoulders, i bought the conq material to give pvp ilvl to tier

stuck mulch
#

aah

boreal veldt
#

saves a cata charge

sharp meteor
#

You can either rng a piece from vault or raid directly.

stuck mulch
sharp meteor
#

And it's same price as buying the conq piece itself.

copper fox
#

Lots of people missing out on these this season

fickle forge
wheat jay
fickle forge
sharp meteor
#

Tipsy queues bis queues.

urban skiff
sharp meteor
#

no stop

copper fox
#

@sharp meteor when do you Q I haven’t run into any tanks yet at 2.6-2.9

spice hornet
#

Chrissy and Toni want to see very tipsy Kennie queues

sharp meteor
#

My unplayed tanks should be like 2900-3100ish, though, I think? So might give it a whirl in a week or two.

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Doing pve and playing multiple specs makes gear hard early on and i dont like qing with scuffos gear on high chars

urban skiff
# sharp meteor no stop

Crit is actually stupidly valuable, if you're fury or enh and want to use cursed mastery enchant

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Like so absurdly so you'll be offended when I tell you why

sharp meteor
#

Bad bad bad 🗞️

urban skiff
#

The bug where if you have negative crit rating, you cannot crit with abilities that gain pure +crit chance still exists

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so with negative crit rating any nature spell cannot crit for enh

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And fury gets % crit chance from recklessness. I never saw a patch note about that being fixed

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With negative crit rating my doom winds couldn't crit

stuck mulch
urban skiff
#

yeah

stuck mulch
urban skiff
#

this nonsense

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It's a lot of fun. Now bigdam is doing something similar, but without peestorm and only 1 point in splintered elements

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the free'd up points go into elemental assault and legacy of the frost witch

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I have 4-set but no crash lightning. Idk if it's good

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but what i have works and if I need to git gut I can always play something more meta and instantly improve my rating without having to improve as a player

stuck mulch
urban skiff
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I don't know anything

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but I heard someone say BM is still the stronger spec, MM is just more popular on account of not being BM

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fun lobby ahead

tulip sail
#

is it still fury > arms?

spice hornet
#

I don’t think so

urban skiff
#

I think they're the same

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quite literally the same

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slight difference in that fury needs to ramp their ms but has a bigger one consistently. While arms has the biggest one that is up when it matters

sharp meteor
#

fury dmg is nice but it dies to air on cd

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might have to be arms i fear

urban skiff
#

arms bigger but fury has 2 weapons

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If fury had access to colossus size it would be a nobrainer always insta-lock fury

rancid granite
#

so the prequisite is to have big enough balls to play death wish 24/7

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full stacks all game big balls big swords big size

urban skiff
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I wish death wish lasted a full minute

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I can't remember to press that

rancid granite
#

thats what she said

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ima have to do a size comparison real quick

urban skiff
#

that's what she said

rancid granite
#

FingerGuns lol

urban skiff
#

neat lobby

chilly pivot
#

RB > BT allways

urban skiff
rancid granite
#

normal/colossus/deathwishx5

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you grow insanely noticeably bigger each stack lol

chilly pivot
rancid granite
#

boutta main fury

rancid granite
#

what'd you do, slayer fury mainly?

chilly pivot
chilly pivot
copper fox
urban skiff
#

lmao this guy

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getting so angry over a little enhancement daddy trying to play one game before bedtime

rancid granite
#

show final score

urban skiff
#

I forgot to screencap it

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womp womp

boreal veldt
#

lmaooo

urban skiff
#

we ended up going 3-3 both

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imagine being so bad you go 3-3 against a dumbass like me

rancid granite
#

thats still humorous

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if someone talks shit and goes like 5-1 6-0 its like alright fair

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but when they go 3-3 or less it's just 🥰

urban skiff
#

He's now 688 rating

#

let's check him on seramate

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bet he's a multiglad R1 contender

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oh boy challenger which rating is that one?

wheat jay
#

Sheesh

scarlet barn
elfin surge
urban skiff
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Pretty sure we had mostly the same damage done

craggy geyser
#

Do you guys have any simple recommended weak aura for arms to track stacks

boreal veldt
#

make a big demolish button, only ackowledge it's existence when it's shiny

urban skiff
#

hope these guys like totems

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because there's going to be one match with 3 shamans on one side

urban skiff
#

shaman threw then left

boreal veldt
#

lmao

urban skiff
#

ele who couldn't kite, warrior who could spread out ms effects or swap targets

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weird asf lobby

urban skiff
#

funky lobby, should have gone 6-0 but I forgot to pop cooldowns in one match

chilly pivot
#

im not familar to thane, is it much better for cleaves then slayer with WW talents ?

urban skiff
#

supposedly yes

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I can't make it work though for some reason

sharp meteor
urban skiff
#

starting to feel like I'm getting hard-countered by assa rogue

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my damage is so low i feel bad

verbal tangle
urban skiff
#

this talent is absolutely devious in the new goblin arena

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knocked warrior off with thunderstorm, then 2nd knockback while he was still midair with leap

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I used to put root totem between me and them but i've learned that if i put it behind a warrior he'll take 3x as long to kill it

rancid granite
#

@wheat jay

urban skiff
#

I can answer why

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aoe abilities are spheres and the centre of the spere is not so the largest diameter in the horisontal plane is at ground level.

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So jumping pulls some of the sphere out of the ground and that is what increases the range

rancid granite
#

ohhhh interesting

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neat :D

urban skiff
#

is also why i jump before casting thunderstorm

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but that one is trickier because the angle is determined by the vectors between you and the target

rancid granite
#

jumping is just fun and cool too so + points for that

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fun to know it has actual use now LMAO

urban skiff
#

from rank 150+ to rank 108

bright kraken
#

lock was projected to go 0-6. i said NUH UH

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actually playing goal keeper holy shit

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no survival tactics is wack

robust hearth
spice hornet
urban skiff
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I get messed up because it's both silence and stuns and disarms and slows and blinds that shuts down my damage

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and half my defensives too

robust hearth
urban skiff
#

No i definitely made the real geriatric swifty rage at me lol

kind sentinel
#

Will the real slim swifty please stand up

spice hornet
#

arms is back baby

#

arms rdruid thunder feels so good

robust hearth
#

the real swifty has razer naga logos on him when ulook him up

spice hornet
#

@elfin surge Slayer vs. Colossus thoughts?

river walrus
#

Do we ever press thunder clap as colossus arms warrior?

green wharf
sharp meteor
river walrus
#

Sorry I got confused, last expansion we had th3 tier set that applied rend on thunder clap. Did that become baseline now? Sorry about this, haven't played arms warrior all of this expansion

bright kraken
#

@wheat jay ?

rancid granite
#

im wonderin if all the arms folks are still slammin

wheat jay
#

Im stronk

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Not fat

bright kraken
rancid granite
#

would be cooler on a not hunter but grats little one

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2400 next??

sterile moth
#

Grats!

spice hornet
#

2400 is free

sterile moth
#

Not quite for us mere mortals

idle falcon
idle falcon
bright kraken
idle falcon
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I got 2100 on my fury warrior

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Aiming for 2400 aswell

spice hornet
#

OG? Where’s Galachad

robust hearth
#

gnight @spice hornet gladge

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gnight sire Kennie

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@sharp meteor

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gnight @green wharf

sharp meteor
#

Nini

spice hornet
#

Goodnight buddy

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@sharp meteor what Kennie favorite food

sharp meteor
#

boigur

spice hornet
#

That is a good lookin burger

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Is actually burgers ? Irl

sharp meteor
spice hornet
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On da blackstone?

sharp meteor
#

Ideally but not often.

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I'll also make tiny burger patty for cat. catman

deep epoch
#

whats with some warriors going everforged set pcs... are they high item lvl in pvp?

sharp meteor
#

If you're duelist+ or do keys/delves you can get them. c:

deep epoch
sharp meteor
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Thus the ilev comparable to bloody token pieces.

sharp meteor
deep epoch
#

gotcha. thanks!

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i got a few sparks, not sure where from. just wondering if it was worth

sharp meteor
#

If you have 60 gilded crests you aren't using to pve with, sure.

#

If you don't have any then don't worry about it you'll outscale in a few weeks with conq gear.

sharp meteor
#

There's lots of early season things you can do for more ilev but it's either 1) really bad and "out of the way" if you only pvp or 2) hurts your ability to pve.

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If you're already comfortably 2100+ you can farm out gilded crests for these pieces but they fall off in 2-3 weeks.

green wharf
#

Mage is da poop
Evoker bad, fly
Warrior life hard
But then , Bloodthirsty hit 4million
Kill enemy
Worth it

urban skiff
#

@fierce elm when i bench press with a too narrow grip, i have full contact with my muscles for the full rom. When i take the right grip width, it's like there's a deadzone where i don't have contact with my muscles when i pass through it. Sort of like when you have a shoulder impingement and need to "click" your shoulder halfway through a movement to continue recruiting the muscles for it.

Do i just accept that i have a narrower grip than most or is this something i should work on?

bright kraken
#

fucker was offline all game

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of course, my round ends with them

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and the game ends before we get to kill

#

good design

urban skiff
#

Good news is you're primed for some good games now. You can do it brother

urban skiff
#

Is it because i don't have my feet wider than my hands?

fierce elm
#

I have no idea

#

In my mind its about re-learning a bit

exotic forge
#

I am considering going for Prized Legend warriorbrain

fierce elm
#

Its like week 4 lmao

#

Consider it in like 10 weeks

stuck mulch
#

thanks blizz

buoyant chasm
#

Whats better for solo shuffle? MT or slayer?

#

Stuck at 2k :/

craggy geyser
#

Even split really

#

Slayer seems to be the popular one for fury solo

fierce elm
#

Have tried both, generally like Slayer in SS now tho

lost juniper
urban skiff
lost juniper
fierce elm
#

I have never moved my grip enough for it to be fucked

tulip sail
#

what tier pieces does arms want?

glossy island
#

Whats everyone max execute and mortal strike

#

Shovel haste mastery chest and haste vers gloves both specs

fierce elm
#

I wouldnt get 4pc for now

tulip sail
#

alright cheers

craggy geyser
#

There’s something about chasing a hunter around and killing them that’s just so satisfying. Squirrelly mfers

copper fox
#

Also depends on what you mean by narrow. We talking shoulder width? Pinky on ring? Or what

#

All a big difference

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If you’re using a shoulder width grip there’s no way you get the same level of contraction in your chest because you physically cannot get the same stretch reflex you can with a standard grip

#

Anatomically not possible

urban skiff
# copper fox If you’re using a shoulder width grip there’s no way you get the same level of c...

I can't explain it, other than that it's just too narrow compared to the proper width.

When I have the narrower grip it's like there's a magnet pulling the weight off of me a little above bottom.

When I have the true width grip (not wide) it's like the there's a spot where (on lowering the weight) I have zero engagement of any kind and I have to spend extra power decelerating it after getting past that point. The same kind of odd hitch isn't really there when going up

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This is only present when the weight is challenging. So above 130. Below that everything is perfectly fine no matter what i do

copper fox
#

Do you think it could just be as simple as you have much more dominant shoulders / triceps than your chest

urban skiff
#

I guess not impossible?

copper fox
#

If you have more dominant shoulders / triceps you’re going to be more comfortable with a narrow grip

fierce elm
#

OH you meant like contraction

urban skiff
#

The stretch reflex with narrower grip is more pronounced after I've had heavy weights on me and back off

fierce elm
#

mb im at work

urban skiff
#

So like in a good way

copper fox
#

You can work on this issue but using dumbbells and keeping a 3-1-0 tempo with a good stretch at the bottom. Holding the DBs as if it was a neutral barbell grip

urban skiff
#

But I can't replicate it at all with the right width

copper fox
#

As a secondary movement

urban skiff
copper fox
#

Rip

urban skiff
#

I suppose I could strap weights to one kid so they weight the same and use them for t hat

fickle forge
#

Go wide or die brother

urban skiff
fickle forge
#

Full width grip

fickle forge
#

2m between the grip points

fierce elm
#

Also, you cant physically have 0 muscle engagement

copper fox
#

I like wide grip Larsens

fierce elm
#

Larsens Goated

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Spotos alright

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But you cant physically NOT be engaging a muscle when lifting

copper fox
#

Spotos are too easy to get good at lol

fierce elm
#

tbf I dont get the wide grip crowd

copper fox
#

I just use it as an accessory

fierce elm
#

That shit NERDS

copper fox
#

To my main

fierce elm
#

I keep my shit NARROW

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like a MAN

#

I chug a 24 pack of bud light between sets

#

like a fucking man

fickle forge
#

Ye you'd know all about narrow grips

urban skiff
fickle forge
#

Now me, I go for the big wide grips like a real man

fierce elm
#

In this convo of 4

#

you bench the least

#

no aura Karg

fickle forge
#

Do I though?

copper fox
#

This is my grip… it’s ring finger on the rings

fickle forge
#

What is Zercher and Washed's bench?

fierce elm
urban skiff
copper fox
#

430lbs in competition

fickle forge
#

Ah shit man

urban skiff
#

no comp, always my own weights so perfectly constant and I know the weights aren't fake.

fickle forge
#

It's because of my wide grip okay

#

I'd catch up if I had narrow grip

copper fox
#

lol

fickle forge
#

At least I am not too far behind Zercher so I can cope with that

copper fox
#

My bench honestly sucks for my weight class. My deadlift is what keeps my total competitive

#

I compete @ 275

fierce elm
#

Kargish just got fucking mogged

fierce elm
#

Narrow grip rise up

fierce elm
#

On eleiko bars generally

fickle forge
#

Today I am doing 175 kg

urban skiff
#

I did 180kg when i lost interest in squatting

#

I looked like a noodle

fickle forge
#

Lmao

#

That's fair man

#

My lifts fucking TANKED when I dropped bw

urban skiff
#

Covid really ruined all my intentions of participating in strongman

copper fox
#

Yea I’m cutting rn and I’m weak af

fierce elm
#

this is why you just perma bulk

copper fox
#

I bulk to 275 for comps and cut to like 260 after.. typically walk around 260/65

#

I’ve competed at 308 before

#

Can’t breathe

#

I’m 6’3… doesn’t even matter… can’t tie shoes without having a heart attack

rancid granite
#

perma bulk lol

fickle forge
#

Sheesh man

#

Defeated by a shoe lace

fierce elm
#

Above 280 just feels bad

#

Like a noticeable difference from 260-270 that isnt just ”I weigh more”

fickle forge
#

Yeah makes sense man

#

Your heart must be buried in 10 layers of fat at that point

lost juniper
#

Tren testo mast combo

fierce elm
#

240 is where I feel best

stuck mulch
#

fuck i love in blitz when people keep going on people with 12 mil hp, instead of some scrub with 7 mil and just let them free cast as a mage

urban skiff
#

now i work 9 hours a week and get paid for 40

fierce elm
#

I can farm gold

#

and I am hopefully more literate than your kids

#

I make a mean drink

urban skiff
#

Getting adopted won't get you my job

#

jjust means you'll be here when I'm at home sulking over not being at work

fierce elm
#

Yeah but it gets me into your will

#

Im in it for the long haul

urban skiff
#

That's a boring ass will to be in

#

I know at least 3 people in the top10 richest people in the country list

#

Only pissed off two of them

fierce elm
#

Get me in their wills too

urban skiff
#

what the fuck

#

How am i supposed to win like this

#

this is last season

boreal veldt
#

you really have some cursed mmr's zerch

urban skiff
#

did 14 blitz last season and started out 1200 mmr this season, lost 4 in a row to get down to the 900s

#

and play with people who are 619!

#

I think there's a flaw in the system that creates groups at low MMR

#

check this team setup

boreal veldt
#

you said 619 and i thought that was their ilvl

urban skiff
#

no that is literally MMR

boreal veldt
urban skiff
#

I'm the only MS effect that isn't a useless rogue on our team

boreal veldt
#

god i hate rogs

#

in blitz specifically

stuck mulch
#

why is prot paladins a thing in arena

#

was a game with 3 paladins 1 ww and me

#

like wtf

urban skiff
#

is this significant damage diff?

#

sub 1k mmr again now

#

I don't know how to do fix this without swapping to my enh with 2k MMR and bring my healer up, so she can do the same to me

#

This isn't even a coin toss between winning and losing down here

#

I don't know how to fix this, placement games being wasted on this nonsense and have to climb out of the hole with hundreds of games once mmr finally climbs enough that we don't play with these people anymore

sharp meteor
#

Win.

urban skiff
#

Can't win with these people

sharp meteor
#

You are "these people".

urban skiff
#

I'm absolutely not

sharp meteor
#

Yeah, you are. They're thinking the same thing.

urban skiff
#

Started out at 1200 MMR, lost first match, got dunked into 1k league with career 1k'ers

#

This isn't a carry harder problem

#

I know I'm not a great player but I'm absolutely not a 1k mmr player

rancid granite
#

i watched my whole blitz team focus the one prot warrior spinning a flag the whole game

urban skiff
#

The one EOTS we won i solo capped vs two of theirs and fended off idk how many players for ages

#

what is this nonsense

#

only winning because they're allergic to balls

fierce elm
#

but here to remind you that this is a gamemode you have an advantage on in the long run

#

even more with 2 people

urban skiff
#

Yea i know

#

the struggle is the fun part, as always

#

winning because they're quite literally afraid of balls

sharp meteor
#

God I hate blitz placements gotta play with 7 zerchers

urban skiff
stuck mulch
#

finally

#

another milestone

#

had to go 6 wins into 1 win into 6 wins

rancid granite
#

few good wins away from 2100 only

stuck mulch
rancid granite
#

been there from 2395->1800 last season

#

never fully mentally recovered

urban skiff
#

literally 2 wins is all it takes to play with people who has more than 0 rating

#

something really fucky is going on with blitz season starts if you don't win first match

#

ooh they have aug

vivid pumice
#

the trick is to take a break until conq unlocks and then you get into lobbies where people are playing alts and their MMR doesn't match their CR

urban skiff
#

But I want to play now

vivid pumice
#

they don't ask how they ask how many

sharp meteor
#

There's no trick aside from playing.

#

And having obj-focused spec or duo.

urban skiff
copper fox
#

I remember this but like

#

How

rancid granite
#

id add on to kennie's trick of playing' by having a mindset of trying to learn/improve

#

how - play when tilted/tired/sidetracked etc

#

:D

copper fox
#

Ah

#

You just need to bang an energy drink down and only play to win

#

Easy

urban skiff
copper fox
#

lol

#

I made a lock alt this season and I suck at it. I’m like 1900 rn but I tanked to 1700 now back up

#

It’s fun

#

I’m almost 2500 on main warr tho

#

My locks games are like

#

Either 1-5 or 5-1

#

Depending on if it’s a melee/bm lobby or not

#

If that’s the lobby I’m fucked

urban skiff
urban skiff
#

now it's accidentally my main?

rancid granite
#

then you get hyped and had too much and get sloppy

fierce elm
#

Uhm I just queue and slam my weapon into people until they get sent to the graveyard

rancid granite
#

thats the goal anyway

copper fox
#

Yea that’s how you play warrior

#

No brain just monkey

rancid granite
#

also a slippery slope

urban skiff
#

starting to feel like playing feral + disc in blitz is just not what I want

#

I have matchmaker potential but me and my wife are almost never in the same place and i guess that just isn't as much fun

rancid granite
#

i mean doesnt feral just play as stealthy/rogue

#

just kinda solo ninja stuff

#

i know on my rogue it's lonely lol

#

if you duo'ing hop on the warrior

fierce elm
#

why not just play warrior or enhance

#

you are playing a solo spec duo queued lmao

urban skiff
fierce elm
#

Pick a spec that actually benefits from the duo

#

instead of a spec that doesnt wanna be duo lmao