pvp

[lavish quest]

Sure it is bud

[craggy geyser]

You mean face rolling your keyboard is a button?

[lavish quest]

He forgot we're slaying like the queens we are

[faint sapphire]

if u faceroll demolish - u cancel animation

lmao

what are u 1600 to speak about rotation? isnt it the most basic thing?

[rancid granite]

if 15% dmg is the reason for demolish being bad/good....

[faint sapphire]

everyone should do theeir rotation with eyes closed

[fierce elm]

15% does nto take it from unusable to good lmao

[lavish quest]

Who discussed rotation?

This man hallucinating?

[faint sapphire]

frogface talking about faceroll

[craggy geyser]

It’s a joke there flex guy relax it actually has nothing to do with rotation lol ez pal

[craggy geyser]

The massive bicep he worked 17 years to get is channeling his blood from his brain it’s ok he will relax

[fierce elm]

Its Devon Larratt, i.e not him anyways

Unless it happens to be him

[boreal veldt]

devoker putting up wild numbers now lmfao

casual 1mil disentegrate ticks

[lavish quest]

We derpy dragons now kids

[urban skiff]

wait for augs to catch on

augocalypse is nearly upon us again

[boreal veldt]

woof

[fierce elm]

Aug is something rn

[boreal veldt]

they are techincially a spec

[urban skiff]

they're a spec that got their team buffs rolled back into personal damage but now also got a flat +15% damage in pve that they didn't block from pvp

[spice hornet]

i know there are some aug mains in the shadows lurking just waiting for that spec to become overtuned due to pve buffs

that slip by into pvp

[fierce elm]

I mean its looking real good rn

[urban skiff]

I'm one of them

[spice hornet]

i do not miss that DF season where everyone was qing dps/aug/x

[fierce elm]

the 6 players that play it

[spice hornet]

it was so boring

[urban skiff]

was going to play it last season but was just overwhelmed with all the other stuff I wanted to play

[chilly pivot]

versatility is more important for arms then fury or?

[fierce elm]

no?

[lavish quest]

Same importance

[urban skiff]

which one of you fuckers decided to start playing survival?

[urban skiff]

fury gets more vers naturally

Idk if that translates into it being more important for arms

[lavish quest]

Vesa

Get furried kid

[boreal veldt]

god 4p feels useless on arms lol

i feel i've make a mistake

[wheat jay]

@bright kraken

[urban skiff]

is that a bomb?

kind of odd i can sustain 550k dps on dummy using only spells as enhancement

next time I'm in a root I'm going to just start

https://tenor.com/view/started-blasting-gun-eyeglasses-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-gif-16955226

[jovial torrent]

starting to struggle, getting focused every game, feels like i cant be offensive anymore

i have to kite around in circles praying i stay alive

[bright kraken]

cope

[urban skiff]

enhancement experience

[urban skiff]

did you go 5-1?

[bright kraken]

I wish

[urban skiff]

Sounds like the awesome hunter was someone else

dream lobby

[jovial torrent]

lul priest cried cus he had me last game and lose, he left, we won

starting to feel like disarm is the actual play for fury instead of deathwish, but dw is so good if ppl let you slip by

but alot of war's and rogues just focus me and spam disarm and kill me on deathwish

[urban skiff]

tbh a lot of people probably play with same mantra as me

hit the closest thing

walking is for casters

[boreal veldt]

with how many roots snares and slows, hitting the closest thing is a good play

i'm convinced it's why bajeera does so well

we really just swangin

[jovial torrent]

true, do feel like somtimes u waste so much pressure chasin a lock with his gate teleport teammates rooting u ect in blitz

i always try quick switch to healer monks with cd's up cus they can just 100-0 drop dead in a spear

but atm ppl seem to be running melee train at same target in blitz, all taking disarm to just neuter enemy melee

[urban skiff]

yoooo håndvægte is here

we're finally gaming again

@true tiger

[jovial torrent]

hes learning! someone stop this man

[urban skiff]

Man I can't wait to swap off of some of this haste and just truck people

[jovial torrent]

im gettin close, but it can all vanish so fast

[urban skiff]

tell me about it

[jovial torrent]

the upside of blitz is its kind of hard to drop mmr

[urban skiff]

yesterday i dipped down to 1500

[jovial torrent]

just stupid i lose so much cr even when my mmr was like 300 higher

[urban skiff]

i should do more bgs, but like I said earlier. If i hit elite in blitz I'm going to stop shuffle

[jovial torrent]

do it on ur next class

[urban skiff]

My next is arms / fury and feral

Next in line after those is vengeance dh, maybe aug evoker

[jovial torrent]

evoker is such a pain, with their stupid immune to slows, swear it lasts a whole minute

[true tiger]

ggs

[jovial torrent]

welp time to lose rating

hearler semi afk

[rancid granite]

damn so close to your mog

[urban skiff]

I genuinely don't think I'll ever wear it lol

[rancid granite]

i forget what it looks like

[urban skiff]

The delve / world pvp set is so much cooler

[jovial torrent]

i quite like that set, but it is missing somthing

[rancid granite]

this is elite

[urban skiff]

Yep

[rancid granite]

not elite elite, but elite

like, l337

[urban skiff]

Finally a season where there's a difference

check s1

[jovial torrent]

it needs like a really beefy leg piece

its supposed to be like t6 but its missing the bottom half vibe

[rancid granite]

my pally/monk motivation is purely for the mog, idk if ill play them after it

[urban skiff]

tell me which one is elite pvp and which one is LFR raid drop

[rancid granite]

lmao

1st pic is with monitor saturation on

[urban skiff]

Colours on LFR is actually slightly better

[rancid granite]

warm color tone vs cool color tone

[urban skiff]

there's barely any difference in the special animation

[jovial torrent]

that first season set was dogshit

imagine it with beefy purple legs

[urban skiff]

wait a fucking minute

where's the skirt

the pvp set doesn't have a skirt

[jovial torrent]

oh lol didnt realse the other sets did

it looks much better with a kilt

[urban skiff]

I don't understand the weirdass colourset

voidpurple

[jovial torrent]

yeh i dont get it either, they are giving pvp sets purple brown green now

instead of red black, guess mythic bois cried alot

[nimble jasper]

you not done with this yet?

[urban skiff]

not even started it

[nimble jasper]

oh

i have all of them but cloth

[urban skiff]

i got distracted making a new shaman

actually now I'm thinking... What am I using my offhand for?

1800 shield enh let's go

[nimble jasper]

delve set makes me wish sham was dark iron

[chilly pivot]

Bgs Will be so Much better tomorrow right?

[elfin surge]

@sharp meteor

[rancid granite]

[urban skiff]

sure thing buddy

[sharp meteor]

[urban skiff]

people are now discovering my build

[jovial torrent]

here we go

losing rating by ppl just losing 1 fight crying and giving up

crazy this shit happens at 2400

[indigo barn]

How's the mage nerfs feeling or are we still 'Im out of range' team

[urban skiff]

report them for sabotage and move on 😒

[urban skiff]

Not if you play SMF THANE

mages are very high on my list of shit that dies really fast with SMF THANE

[indigo barn]

[urban skiff]

🐒

[jovial torrent]

what causes this

[fickle forge]

Mhm

Mhm

[jovial torrent]

gross

[rancid granite]

@wheat jay gonna just macro in touch of death to every ability cause this skill rocks

gonna spam tag you til i hit 1800 too

[wheat jay]

Ok

[rancid granite]

i dont even want to continue but i want my mog

[jovial torrent]

30 min q for 1 person to afk out

shits cursed, lost 20 rating

half of what i gained today deleted by multiple afk's

[wheat jay]

Enjoy

[rancid granite]

you're gonna make up for it for the future games the enemy goes afk

[wheat jay]

Btw, check WoD primal gladiator mog

[rancid granite]

thats how it goes

[wheat jay]

With relentless gladiator 1h swords from wotlk

Peak transmog for monk

[rancid granite]

that is pretty epic

[green wharf]

i did that one first

but i changed to get lava lash

because you told me so

[jovial torrent]

i WILL defend blacksmith

[fierce elm]

Kargish is better as a healer than a warrior

[spice hornet]

prot paladin? least obvious wintrader

[modest shadow]

Did Arms get the execute/bs buff today?

👀

[fierce elm]

are you na

if so yes

if not, no

[sterile moth]

Don’t forget the demolish buff!

[robust hearth]

@elfin surge gotchu bud https://www.twitch.tv/mudcx/clip/InspiringSpunkyGiraffeCoolCat-HYiTUVGNVCmb_LAA

[jovial torrent]

ngl id love them to buff spear a bit, its so slow

even if u only throw it a few ft, gl hitting a spear snipe

[lavish quest]

Myth tier shoulders from vault. Pve power for pvp. Cheers 🍷

[fierce elm]

Too bad it doesnt help with yo lame ass gameplay amirite

[lavish quest]

Better than yours m8

[fierce elm]

I need the secret tech berserker macro

[lavish quest]

Rogue reroller

[fierce elm]

Im back to Warrior

lmao

[lavish quest]

For what, 20 mins?

[fierce elm]

Main this season : (

[spice hornet]

Spear is one of the last skilled abilities left in the game

[indigo barn]

Hamstring applies a tether to someone?

[inner sigil]

How is arms doing now

[fierce elm]

better

[jovial torrent]

problem is spear has like a 1 second cast animation while being quite a small aim reticle, while 3/4 of the classes have 2 dashes

either that or make it so ppl who walk through it get tethered too like ring of ice

[green wharf]

spear should be able to cast at the target and root him and everyone else in the aoe

working like how they did with earthquake and rain of fire

you can pick between casting at a target and casting aoe normally

[jovial torrent]

guna be interesting to see how all the changes play out tomorrow in blitz, wil it hurt or help me hit 2400

not playing arms

[green wharf]

bladestorm will hit a bit harder, execute too

thats it

[jovial torrent]

its only arms version i think

thats buffed

like getting 10% dampening but they are buffing every healer apart from disc and rdruid i think

[exotic forge]

How are the buffs feeling brothas

[fierce elm]

it made Execute into a button

and Demolish into a button

Slayer is looking way better though

[exotic forge]

[rustic reef]

Is it worth switching from fury to arms yet?

[inner sigil]

well arms is gonna get nerfed

hitting 5 million executes

6 million*

[rustic reef]

Love it

[jovial torrent]

it would be typical i finally go fury and it hard shifts to arms being better

[spice hornet]

Yeah the flip flop of fury/arms buffs and nerfs has been really annoying this expac

[elfin surge]

dude my mouse was buggin or something idk

[robust hearth]

likley story...

[elfin surge]

ya was busy kissing hot girls

u wouldnt get it

[robust hearth]

aww dont get all butt hurt on me mud im only busting ur balls XD

[elfin surge]

LOL

i know

[robust hearth]

[spice hornet]

Mud just got back into wow after streaming Roblox and dark n darker the past year, relax

[robust hearth]

LOL ROBLOX

[elfin surge]

thats such an old meme man

one of my mods changes my game to roblox on stream

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[robust hearth]

4

[elfin surge]

Execute proc during csmash (no avatar) as slayer arms

no it wasnt my ms the number showed up late

[green wharf]

[exotic forge]

Holy shit

We're so gonna get nerfed

[elfin surge]

no avatar here either lol

[inner sigil]

arms si so back

we actually got consistent damage

[inner sigil]

i hope not

fury gets the same shit

;-;

3 milli executes

no burst

[jovial torrent]

the buffs were arms only

[inner sigil]

ik

fury gets 3m executes tho

reguardless

so why cant arms

if they do nerf

im suing

[jovial torrent]

agree, arms was less dmg cus it had more utility, it really doesnt anymore

[inner sigil]

arms literally has almost equal util now

so dumb

[jovial torrent]

all they get really is sharpen, less healing but a stronger def

was parry 3 min cd now or 2

i honestly dont know if i can go back to non thane now, thunderclap slow that actually does dmg is too good

[inner sigil]

meh

i like slayer way better

feels more warrior

less shaman.

also has way higehr consistent damage

higher*

[jovial torrent]

i like the theme of slayer but in blitz thane is 100x better

[inner sigil]

wtrue

but blitz is a meme bracket

[jovial torrent]

thunderclap is big dmg aoe slow and procs your meat cleaver

[green wharf]

thane is just more fun

period

[inner sigil]

ion like the flow 😦

[jovial torrent]

i do like slayers sound effects and bladestorm actually doing dmg

slayer strike makes sense, just shame we need bladestorm to break roots

slayer should probs get a movespeed buff when u press bladestorm , cus u have to cancel it so much when ppl just dash out of range instantly

[green wharf]

the onyl thing i like in slayer is that slayer strike hit while stunned

[jovial torrent]

rampage continuing to do dmg through cc has killed sooooo many ppl for me

[green wharf]

once i killed a dude stunned because of it

[high star]

anyone know why i cant cast execute anymore lmao

[urban skiff]

So is shuffles and 2s

[exotic forge]

Time to que tomorrow

[urban skiff]

No changes made on my shaman, my dummy dps is up 400k

I didn't even swap my gear yet like i wanted to for extra +15% - +25% damage

[chilly pivot]

How arms feels any big numbers?

[inner sigil]

TRUE

[urban skiff]

Holy fuck im hyped for playing enhancement

Did a quick test run this morning and i was just melting people

[grand echo]

Are we Slayer arms now?

[inner sigil]

prolly

hitting hella executes

feels like fury warrior level executes

potentially better if u get crit

[grand echo]

damn that felt nice

shame I lost every round with the ret on mt team that didnt know where his bop or bubble buttons were

[fierce elm]

You said it felt amazing

[fierce elm]

Yes

Demo still sucks

[rancid granite]

arms feels like the same as last patch, but our execute does 25% more dmg, bladestorm does 20% more dmg, and demolish does 15% more dmg

thats precisely exactly how it feels

[fierce elm]

Hpriest and aug real winners

[copper fox]

Arms warr buffs making these idiots even more cocky than they’ve been. Leaping behind pillars and dying

[fierce elm]

I do that prebuff

[copper fox]

Lmao

[fickle forge]

The difference is I share that warrior braincell, so he doesn't die on it

[fierce elm]

I think out of the 29 games I was behind pillar in at least 20 of them

[lavish quest]

It's the healer who's behind the pillar, not me. I lead, they follow

[copper fox]

So true

[fickle forge]

You also storm bolt first global on my lasso

[fierce elm]

: )

its my stun

[fickle forge]

I'm actively looking for something you haven't put on DR to lasso

[fierce elm]

: )

Payback for playing TSG

or rogue with you

[fickle forge]

Payback is I am giving you free elo?

[fierce elm]

We won with the 1600 peak rdruid too

[fickle forge]

Uh yeah clearly not, since you lost like 7 games with him

Plus the first thing I heard from the both of you was tilt over your healer lmfao

[fierce elm]

He was lovely

[fickle forge]

"THIS POSITIONING IS SO DOGSHIT WHY IS HE IN THEIR SPAWN ROOM EVERY SINGLE GAME"

[fierce elm]

No no no thats James

[fickle forge]

Tiltames

[bright kraken]

gonna neck myself

[fierce elm]

this isnt pvp

[bright kraken]

close enough to it

[lavish quest]

PIs happen. Gg I guess?

[scarlet barn]

furthest you can get yes

[fickle forge]

Doesn't it invalidate the log when you get 4 PIs?

[urban skiff]

we enhancement brother

turbo is the new love and life

[grand echo]

You tearing through?

[urban skiff]

I did this morning. I didn't get to test more before work

my dummy dps is up 400k over 12 minute duration

[grand echo]

Oo nice

[elfin surge]

ARMS 📈

[urban skiff]

Arms stonks going up is good for me, means they'll be in many games and I'll have guaranteed 2 wins per shuffle they're in

Less good when I'm not with them. But counterstrike totem is funny like that

I'm going to shift stats around and it'll net me between 15% and 25% extra damage too

Overall I think I'll have a good season now

@fierce elm 4set when?

Is it this week or next week?

[fierce elm]

next week

[fickle forge]

You benefit more from a fury meta

Arms shits on enh sham

And plays the same with it

[faint sapphire]

isnt this better than 20% to ip? I mean mathematicaly

or has it something to do with ms and dampening?

[fierce elm]

do you want to have something that is effective when you only drop below 35% for 2 seconds with a 60 second cooldown

or something that increases by 20% that is something you spam at any HP with an 11 second cooldown

[faint sapphire]

i mean its only 150k extra absorb

5-6 uses per min

[fierce elm]

One is extremely niche, one has use constantly

and the fact that you get to pick when to spam IP over that

since that procs everytime you are below 35% hp

which is sometimes not something you want

[exotic forge]

Also 2nd Wind is affected by dampening of healing reduction effects

So

[faint sapphire]

ye that was my main concern

[exotic forge]

Even with its niche use its not always viable

Compared to IP

[fierce elm]

Even without that it probably wouldn't be a talent we ran over buffing IP

[exotic forge]

Exactly

[fierce elm]

Its just too random and niche

[lavish quest]

Isn't IP also damped?

[exotic forge]

IP is an absorb, so it's not affected by healing reduction

[lavish quest]

Thought absorbs were as well

Cocoon is

[fierce elm]

Its affected by dampening iirc

[faint sapphire]

absorbs are affected by damp

but not by ms

[exotic forge]

As far as I know, stuff like disc shields are unaffected by Ms or sharpen

[fierce elm]

they are

[exotic forge]

Some I'd guess same goes for IP

Until damp comes around

[fierce elm]

Which is why in earlier times you would drop sharpen versus disc

: )

[exotic forge]

You still kinda do but because we got nothing else to pick, we take it anyways

[lavish quest]

MS should reduce their max hp by 25%

[fierce elm]

Do now

not in earlier times

[exotic forge]

I remember when Sharpen was 70%

Good times

[fierce elm]

Its a pretty easy line of thought when you try to determine how good a defensive talent is

If its automatic or not
Is it spammable
Absorb or heal
Immunity
Damage Reduction

This one hits all the bad notes

[sharp meteor]

It's so bad.

Unless you pve and don't take ip.

[exotic forge]

I know it's just the pvp dummy but by Odyn's molten beard

We're so getting nerfed

[fierce elm]

it trucks

it truckks

[exotic forge]

I'm terrified for what next Tuesday has for us

[faint sapphire]

I wouldnt worry about that. Just had 5min 3v3...boomie survived 1mil dps constant pressure from arms and dragon for whole arena

[fierce elm]

also man rating has definitely evened out

these dudes are fucking garbanzo beans

yeah I wouldnt worry about arms nerfs

[faint sapphire]

1mil from each

mms black arrows on the other hand could use some nerfs

aoe execute that hits harder, does aoe, puts dot itself

plus this dot

[fierce elm]

Are you alwaysa unhappy lmao

[faint sapphire]

just saying its bit too much

I am happy with balancing overall

especialy that now I can do this:

[sharp meteor]

Warr only class that's furious when they're winning

[faint sapphire]

got unlucky with tactician

[sharp meteor]

immersive class fantasy

[fierce elm]

true lmao

Gotta climb through these scrubs in SS at 1900 now

because I stopped queueing day one lmao

[lavish quest]

Wars are winning and no one told me? Wtf

[fierce elm]

Arms definitely feels like it got buffs

lmao

[elfin surge]

Arms does damage

thats

[elfin surge]

about it

[green wharf]

guys

[exotic forge]

I need this SS que to pop

[green wharf]

is arms stronger than fury

[exotic forge]

random bg's aren't a good testing ground

[fierce elm]

shut up

[green wharf]

with the buffs

[elfin surge]

ya

[green wharf]

[lavish quest]

We finally made it to D tier? Pog

[elfin surge]

5th best melee

[exotic forge]

We're upgraded from mediocre B tier to B tier

[fierce elm]

acn you play 3s so we can get some fucking 3s stats

that isnt Mag no-voice random 3s

or Laros Aug 3s lmao

[elfin surge]

my feral wont be around until the weekend then idk if my healer will be on cuz he hangs out with his girl on weekends i think

I've been trying to get 3s all ssn my team wont log on

[lavish quest]

3s is deadge

[exotic forge]

Time to get a new team

[fierce elm]

Oh my god guise first 2k I am so happy

[lavish quest]

Solos is the future

And the future is now boomers

[fierce elm]

rating is REAL inflated

[lavish quest]

Fotm reroller

[exotic forge]

the 6-0

[fierce elm]

lmao

Rating is REAL REAL inflated

elite weps is 2.1 right

what the hell si this enchant

[verbal tangle]

Ye

[exotic forge]

I thought it was 2,4

unless they changed it

[fierce elm]

Jackpot but it isnt raining down gold coins

they did chjange it in TWW

[green wharf]

true

[exotic forge]

huh, neat, I can get the chainsaw axe soon then

[fierce elm]

How can it be a JACKPOT without fucking raining coins

[green wharf]

because there is no pots

[exotic forge]

should've been like landslide but it has coin effects instead of rock effects

[fierce elm]

wack

[green wharf]

i also think the weapons are lame, so meh, not rly gonna put any effort this season

[fierce elm]

Time to see if I can 4set right now or not

I think everything is cool as fuck this patch

DIY goblin stuff is goated

[green wharf]

gonna get the sets i didnt already and do delves

[green wharf]

i didnt like the colour

you can get better ones doing pve

[exotic forge]

There's no catalyst charge this week, yeah?

[fierce elm]

nope

But I got conquest to buy the varnish for a piece

so if I can get the tier token from LFR its 4 set time

[exotic forge]

should've minmaxed and get heroic tier piece and use the ilvl thingy

[fierce elm]

lmao dont even need heroic tier

can just LFR it up

[exotic forge]

I know but it's for my pve set

Jesus Christ

[fierce elm]

Pray for my LFR legs drop

[green wharf]

i hope it drops and you lose the roll

[fierce elm]

oh yeah you gotta roll against other dweebs now

fuck

where personal loot

[green wharf]

in your mythic group

[elfin surge]

execute does execute

i like it

[wheat jay]

gratz on your first 2k ❤️

[exotic forge]

i owe it an apology

[fierce elm]

I did not get the tier piece fml

[wheat jay]

go do lfr

[exotic forge]

he did lfr lmao

[fierce elm]

I did

lmao

I did not get it

but its okay

I doubt 4 piece is gonna make me into a 3k gamer

[lavish quest]

Execute does 400k, gets 15 or 25% buff, now does 2-3 mil

Gotta love modifiers I guess

[fierce elm]

lmao

goes from average 400k to now average 900k

how does that work out

[lavish quest]

Here I was a fool thinking 15% = 15%

[fickle forge]

Except for rogue

Lock

Mage

Deva

Priests

And so forth

[exotic forge]

cuz we know we're gonna get a hard nerfbat

that's why

[rancid granite]

/cast ignore pain

i had a holy paladin in ss today write up a novel on why he lost and how blizzerd nerfed paladins too hard

when i told him they got buffed yesterday it went in one ear out the other

[chilly pivot]

Coluss or slayer as arms now?

[boreal veldt]

slayer is for ~~cowards ~~ gentlemen who enjoy playing the game and a healthy execute button

colos 5% bigger

[fickle forge]

I thought you had a feel for it

I saw you say so yesterday

[idle falcon]

all devastation evoker players should go to hell

instantly

[boreal veldt]

dealing 20mil damage in first 10sec of a match is normal

probably

maybe 10sec is undercutting it

[spice hornet]

Yeah dev design is so bad. No healthy for the game at all

[idle falcon]

even chatgpt agrees

[sharp meteor]

[boreal veldt]

[green wharf]

[idle falcon]

pin this xd

[urban skiff]

this is the biggest reason to play colossus

[rancid granite]

isnt it just the classic mobility vs strength argument

'i dont wanna get too shredded i dont wanna lose speed and mobility'

[urban skiff]

Play enh

you'll have both

[rancid granite]

ill just play elusive gem like the pros (magnusz, mud, aatos)

[urban skiff]

gross

doing what others do

When I buy LEGO i only build it wrong

nobody tells me what to do

[sharp meteor]

move speed super nice on warr

cos ur entirely reliant on uptime

so gnome + ms

[boreal veldt]

imagine playing gnome

[rancid granite]

theyre copying me, MS most underrated ability in every game ever

[urban skiff]

I love the MS gem

Ran it last season on my shaman and had the zoomies

[rancid granite]

its what i miss most about fury, the ~4% talent

arms is the stinkin less aoe dmg version👎

[urban skiff]

With ms gem I can peak 340% ms

in outdoor zones and 290% indoor

for 5 seconds

[sharp meteor]

racial feels insane

shame mogs are kind of

ehhh they arent the worsts ig

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

you laugh because you can tell just how much that's exactly me

[green wharf]

how

[rancid granite]

lmao kennie shitting on gnome cause he's like 5" taller than them

[green wharf]

dont you need different gems to get more

[sharp meteor]

Taller if you include the ears.

[rancid granite]

😂

[chilly pivot]

slam is last prio as arms?

[fierce elm]

No

[rancid granite]

slam is SO last patch

[chilly pivot]

execute > mortal strike > overpower > slam i think? :S

or how do u should say the order is

execute feels like top prio with this buffs

[sterile moth]

I think so Shady

[fierce elm]

Execute is not above MS in priority if its just base execute

Execute with sudden death or w.e stacks, yes

Execute with nothing, probably no

[sterile moth]

Good call out Afro

[fierce elm]

I would probably do MS - Exe - OP - Slam

However it all depends on the situation

[chilly pivot]

3x market for execution and +8 stacks of overpower from set, what do u press? @fierce elm

[rancid granite]

@wheat jay Celestial conduit channel vs 2nd button press?

[wheat jay]

bro 2nd button doesnt stop the channel

fuck you on about

xD

[fierce elm]

Exe

Because its straight forward as fuck

lmao

[rancid granite]

well do i just mash the button 2x then or what lmao

[wheat jay]

yes

[fierce elm]

If using our brainpower here, Execute can grant you another stack of the 2pc bonus, meaning you can gain more damage on your Overpower

[rancid granite]

so ive been missing out on huge burst this whole time

still topping dmg meter

[fierce elm]

However using overpower before execute int hat scenario does nothing unless you have no rage

its very simple

[fickle forge]

0.22 L left in the monster and 0.46 L left of your beer, which one do you drink? @fierce elm

[fierce elm]

combine them into the same drink

[rancid granite]

RSK equivalent to MS too @art ?

[urban skiff]

shaman!

[urban skiff]

should have said lying down with full mast

[fierce elm]

I cant believe I dropped the slam talent finally

Fuick why is 2.4+ so barren in SS for warrior

28 fury, 5 arms?

[verbal tangle]

Because brown class

[fickle forge]

Shuffle 😴

[rancid granite]

they're all DH ex mains

[green wharf]

why would you use a different gem in every socket

[urban skiff]

why not?

there's at least two gem colours off the bat that are your ideal

1 or 2 are neutral, there's only one "bad" gem equipped for 10% movement speed

or ignore it and go at +8% ms

[green wharf]

what

what gems were you getting

[fickle forge]

2% ms probably outweights any other gem anyway

[wheat jay]

no

theres no equivalent xD

[rancid granite]

tooltip doesnt say any % so lol

[fickle forge]

% of what?

[green wharf]

meh, i like the ones that gives more damage the mroe you get root/slow

[urban skiff]

Amber is main stamina, sort of bad
Emerald is main haste
Ruby is main crit
Onyx is main mastery
Sapphire is main versatility

So for all of these, you pick the stat you'll want for the other stat.

per gem you get 340 speed rating that isn't affected by DR.

[fickle forge]

Doesn't it show the tooltip for grievous wounds below it?

[fickle forge]

Does it actually do anything?

I've never played it

[green wharf]

its more damage

[rancid granite]

nope! just 'mortal wounds' -50% on a dummy

[green wharf]

so more bonk

[chilly pivot]

rage starved so much as arms on dummy

[fickle forge]

Mortal wounds is what I meant yeah

[urban skiff]

what's the stack limit?

[fickle forge]

It's the same wounds as any other baseline MS ability

[green wharf]

it says right there

200

[urban skiff]

I find it hard to believe

[fickle forge]

I need a damage profile, not a tooltip

[urban skiff]

not sure how to test

If max really is 200 you just kite the entire match and eat all snares, then pop off with a 5m hit

[rancid granite]

wild; i thought monk didn't have any MS effect this whole time

[urban skiff]

MS is 50% nerfed in pvp. It's 25%

[rancid granite]

top dmg and MS effect just a better warrior

monk op then

[fickle forge]

I mean yeah

[rancid granite]

i assumed they were hybrid like paladin so no MS effect

lmao

[fickle forge]

Arms, WW, rogue, demo and hunter got the baseline MS

[rancid granite]

TIL about demo

[fickle forge]

It's why demo+caster is so good

Caster cleave with MS

[fierce elm]

stop hitting dummies

I like the DR on stuns tbh

[urban skiff]

why do i feel like one is missing

I guess feral is technically speccing into it?

[fierce elm]

Fury

oh wait nvm

baseline

[urban skiff]

fury definitely specs into it

yea

DH has a MS effect too, right?

[green wharf]

yeah, but can you

do nothing the entire match

[urban skiff]

both you and healer have the gem

[fickle forge]

Talented yes

[urban skiff]

keep running

Fury is pvp talented
Feral is pvp talented
DH Is talented
Monk is talented?

[fickle forge]

No

[fierce elm]

monk is base

[urban skiff]

why doesn't it show up anywhere on RSK on wowhead?

ah found it

combat conditioning

14th level passive

[fickle forge]

Arms, WW, rogue, demo amd hunter have it baseline
DH can talent it
SP, DK, fury, destro and feral can PvP talent it

[fierce elm]

I am surprised they havent changed MS effects

with solo shuffle being so popular

[urban skiff]

blast from the past

[rancid granite]

im surprised paladin doesnt have 1l ol

[urban skiff]

I need this revived

[fierce elm]

Ret with one would break the 2s bracket entirely

ret/sp would be nasty if ret is better now

[fickle forge]

Would be the best melee in the game if it did

[rancid granite]

true

[fickle forge]

It'd bring everything

[rancid granite]

remove BoP's

no one likes bops

[fierce elm]

Ret with an MS effect has everything lmao

thats crazy

AoE CC, Short cooldown long stun, rep, ms, defensives, damage, peel

range

[rancid granite]

everything except style

and fun

[fickle forge]

On top of 50 CC cleanses

[rancid granite]

and a charge/leap

[fierce elm]

Dont need charge leap when you can range it lmao

imagine needing to be melee for an execute

[urban skiff]

Ok ok ok

Choose one spec to take MS from and choose one to give it to, that will make 2s and overall pvp more fair. Whatever conditions from the donor spec has to be sort of replicated for the receiver (as best as possible)

[rancid granite]

take from fury, give them more dps

[green wharf]

remove from warriors and give to mages

[rancid granite]

thats for sure

[urban skiff]

I choose prot war to enhancement.

[fierce elm]

Remove from Rogue, give to enhancement

[urban skiff]

Ravager becomes a totem

[fierce elm]

Enhancement with an MS effect could have actual good comps

that arent just thrown together specs

and I love Enhance being good

[urban skiff]

So much hybrid cleave

and magic-bois club

[fierce elm]

Rogue doesnt need it and returns it to set up comp

or give it only to Outlaw

[urban skiff]

True

make ms effect something for brawler types

[fierce elm]

Enhance has no role in PvP and is jsut there for damage

this gives them another layer of stuff

[urban skiff]

healing*

apparently according to blizzard we have potent heals for survivability

[fierce elm]

Can transition them away from the "I pop cooldowns and I will one shot now and then be useless for a bit" rotation they got going on

[fickle forge]

It's the same shit though, enh would just be god mode

[fierce elm]

We are obviously expecting changes in damage output to make up for this

In this theoretical scenario

[green wharf]

shamans, know to be gods in wow

[urban skiff]

I give it a week before you complain about enh

🙂

[fierce elm]

Return sub to the burst and no consistent damage mode, assa will be full rot, outlaw for consistent damage

Enhance can get into more comps

Rogue wont hurt either way lmao

[fickle forge]

Problem is no spec has any identity left

[fierce elm]

Here we go

[fickle forge]

Assassa, outlaw and sub is the same spec at this point

[fierce elm]

Boomer Kargish gonna boom all over chat

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[fierce elm]

"I remember back in my days we had to actually CC to kill!"

"I remember back in my days fears actually broke!"

[green wharf]

if i complain about enh i uninstall the game

[fierce elm]

I think the only complaint I have had over Enhance was that bullshit Cov ability in SL lmao

[fickle forge]

Find me 1 utility difference between enh and ele sham, go

[fierce elm]

that did like 30% of everyones HP and healed them 100% of the value lmao

[wheat jay]

monk has ms?

[fierce elm]

you base stuff on utility alone?

[green wharf]

you barely find me complaining about elemental, that were op as fuck in s1

[fierce elm]

I got bad news for you buddy, you might aswell have not struggled with arms last season

[green wharf]

enh is just free frag

[fickle forge]

They both pop burst with ascend and primordial, and do sustained in between

So go with utility

Give me 1

1 thing enh does that ele can't

Go do the same for the rogue specs

And then arms and fury

[rancid granite]

you were supposed to tell me RSK was MS lol

[fickle forge]

Now we know why whatever spec does the most damage is usually meta

[rancid granite]

the pupil has become the teacher

[wheat jay]

bro

i didnt know it has ms

[rancid granite]

lmao

[chilly pivot]

any good build to get to this talent with the new exe buffs?

[green wharf]

nor rly

you just take it or not

no "build" for it

[rancid granite]

it seems awful

in any pvp

[chilly pivot]

yea?

[fierce elm]

Go be with your Band you boomer

Juggernaut is fucking terrible

[wheat jay]

okay now i know

lmao

[fickle forge]

We're eating man

[fierce elm]

BOOMER go hang out with them

[fickle forge]

Dude never stopped up to wonder why WW often pairs with no MS specs

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-yapping-yap-yap-yap-talking-to-much-ttm-gif-17123022661056420647

[lavish quest]

Are you fuckin serious

Why do you think I said it was their MS 😂

[sharp meteor]

[sterile moth]

Anger levels seems elevated today

[wheat jay]

i dunno man

[lavish quest]

Because it's the same button you goober

[boreal veldt]

today's chat has been using MS as both move speed and mortal strike and i'm disgruntled about it

[elfin surge]

MS MS MS MS

[lavish quest]

The move speed folk are idiots, prove me wrong

Oh, you can't? Fancy that

[wheat jay]

I DIDNT EVEN KNOW IT APPLIED MS EFFECT HELLO

i didnt read my abilities man

i just press them

fucking hell

[lavish quest]

Classic fotm reroller

I TOLD YOU IT WAS THEIR MS DAY OR TWO AGO

Nerd

[boreal veldt]

:[

[fickle forge]

This you

[lavish quest]

Mud, can we add the title "Gifted Gladiator" to Artji's name?

[wheat jay]

yes

[urban skiff]

I thought it was a metaphor

[lavish quest]

Yes, for it being the same button

[urban skiff]

No for like.. life

[lavish quest]

You can take it as both buddy

[jovial torrent]

swear i just had a nelf war shadowmeld my disarm 2 rounds in a row

[sharp meteor]

were u mashin disarm out of a bolt or som

[rancid granite]

thats how op monk is dont need to know buttons

just mash them and win

though i feel like im kited easier on monk than warrior

[sterile moth]

Yeah I’ve heard monk can be kited pretty easy. Unfortunately doesn’t help us beat them as a warrior

[rancid granite]

skill issue it seems tho

[sterile moth]

Always skill issues

[urban skiff]

why can i sustain +600k dps on dummy using only spellcasting?

at least druid can skip straight to 4set if i want

[jovial torrent]

fury still stronk

[urban skiff]

8% chance they accidentally applied arms buffs to fury also

[jovial torrent]

honestly maybe, boinked a mage for a 2m raging blow too

[sharp meteor]

when they buff slam and it applies to prot as well 📈

[jovial torrent]

arms is weird, i did more dmg than them but they did take some rounds from me with sharpen

or maybe just the hunter i was with threw and missed his trap, it was a double war double hunter cancer lobb

mnnn do i get regular helm this week, or upgrade my hc tier one for 4 set, downside is i wait one more week, upside i gain a socket

[brazen horizon]

Ive mained DH but picked up a fury alt in pvp

Holy damage

[grand echo]

Holy damage? sure you dont play ret?

[jovial torrent]

honestly i think dh is a bit better atm, but they both crank

just randomly immuning slows all over the place

[brazen horizon]

DH I could see being better but with Warr I feel like if I'm near anyone I can just smack shit and cause big dam

[jovial torrent]

dam is good but the mobility of dh and duel potential is better

[brazen horizon]

Oh yeah DH mobility is goated

I remember the first time I ran out of mobility options on Warr I was like OH wow

[jovial torrent]

had a dh in blitz yesterday on wsg map, fly across half the map in the sky

[urban skiff]

applied to fury too, but slam doesn't have an offhand strike so it's always 33% worse than for arms and prot

[brazen horizon]

I wish they'd let DH glide/fel rushing in air work when they have the flag

[jovial torrent]

i dunno what he did but he 100% flew across half the map

[brazen horizon]

You can do that

If I had to guess it was running up to the top of the tunnel entrance ->vengeful retreat+talent that lets you use it twice->Fel Rush->Glide->Fel Rush->Metamorphosis to land

[jovial torrent]

decided to go with non tier helm, il wait 1 more week

ye he started on top of wsg tunnel we* had the alliance side

[rancid granite]

gg ez monk op

[jovial torrent]

noice, ww?

[rancid granite]

yeah

[grand echo]

ngl monk set this season is so sick

[rancid granite]

paladin and monk were fun getting to 1800 for the set but now i dont want to play either lol

[boreal veldt]

the call of the warrior

[rancid granite]

that and a side of rogue

or warrior with a side of monk incase i ever wanna heal for some frans

[fickle forge]

We just became best friends??

[brazen horizon]

I'm def thinking about getting a monk to 1800 this season

[rancid granite]

pretty dang easy just do dmg

[urban skiff]

see pins

[brazen horizon]

That's how I got my fury warrior to 1800 makes sense lol

[jovial torrent]

guna level and play ele shaman

i always liked the look of it and shuffle will make it not a huge pain to learn

[fierce elm]

You mean you saw the buffs

[jovial torrent]

hah, dw they will giga nerf them by the time i gear it, was guna play it first season but the set was maybe the worst looking armour set in the game, this season is like high res t6

[rancid granite]

lol

• +20% dmg
• "seems fun"

[jovial torrent]

heh, i mean i played arms the whole first season, not so much the fotm type

[brazen horizon]

Winning is fun

[lavish quest]

Same reason you're on war huh?

[fierce elm]

That was decided before the season even started lil bro

relax

before the season even ended lmao

[lavish quest]

Uh huh.... sure....

[wheat jay]

@rancid granite lmao

[rancid granite]

hell yeah

i've seen a couple other similar names past few days actually rofl

every monk player is just pure vibes i swear

[wheat jay]

real haha

[random lake]

Leech or speed for bracers?

leech seems kinda attractive ngl

[fierce elm]

speed

[random lake]

gotchu

[fickle forge]

What a giga Chad

[wheat jay]

his sacrifice will not be forgotten

may we all pray in the name of

the russian dude

[urban skiff]

we have a healer and a dps, what do i set Brann to in delves?

[wheat jay]

tank lol

[urban skiff]

wasn't tank giga nerfed?

[rancid granite]

you set the healer to dps or tank and set brann to healer

and never let brann leave healer

[urban skiff]

Healer can't dps

[rancid granite]

set brann to healer anyway :b

[vivid pumice]

DPS brann does less dps than healer specs

like a resto shaman just mashing lava burst will do more dps than dps brann

[robust hearth]

Mods pin this post for the prot war questions https://youtu.be/2Q9F4oGYzho?si=chGaXMHwdkf-qXQ2

[urban skiff]

What curio and shit?

[urban skiff]

soullscape is the goat

I hate the hate he gets. Why can't people be nice?

[robust hearth]

[jovial torrent]

tank players in pvp dont deserve nice things

[robust hearth]

Shush u just have hard time coping that they better than you.

[wheat jay]

tanks dont deserve shit man

remove it

tanks are respectable in pve

despicable in pvp

[robust hearth]

Despicable because you can't comprehend how they work i get it man new stuff scary

[wheat jay]

despicable because of hte same reason we hate fmage or warlocks

it makes the game miserable for everyone

[robust hearth]

No just bad class design

U literally the type of dude tht if arms war was S++ tier 1 shoting any class u would say nothing is wrong with it 😂

[urban skiff]

not blitz

[lavish quest]

The way it should be

[wheat jay]

i meaaaaaaaaan

i dont even play warr

and whenever my own class is s tier, i acknowledge it

100%

xD

and expect nerfs

tanks in arena are dogshit design

they dont belong there

they belong in raids and m+

[lavish quest]

You would be in this scenario given you're always on S tier

[wheat jay]

ye and i always call for nerfs

[jovial torrent]

freedom

these were my talents if anyone wanted to copy, the green circled ones i changed for like maps where i felt i couldnt aoe ppl

[lavish quest]

Can you always main mage then?

[robust hearth]

LOL ARENAS arenas are lame bruh

Bg blitz is where it's at

[sharp meteor]

are u implying it isnt somewhat self inflicted

[urban skiff]

sure

[sharp meteor]

idk why he tries to ego beef with everybody

[urban skiff]

people go on his discord and tell him to kill him self

[robust hearth]

It's usually after he drinks

[wheat jay]

no

[robust hearth]

??? Where when???

[urban skiff]

he references it in the video?

[wheat jay]

ok i didnt know we're talking random bgs

you can play tank there

enjoy

[urban skiff]

exactly

[sharp meteor]

I swear people will post the hate they get as a tnak in the one month they queue

and it's like more than I've seen in all of df and war within combined

like what are some of these guys doin

[robust hearth]

Never seen it.

Been in his discord for over 4 years

[robust hearth]

Who still talks about arenas these days??

[urban skiff]

for starters, streaming?

[wheat jay]

people playing actual pvp

[sharp meteor]

Idk what streaming has to do with it.

[urban skiff]

always seems to attract a specific type of socially challenged people

[wheat jay]

blitz you dont need any knowledge of actual pvp

[robust hearth]

The 18 teams tht circle jerk eachother?

[sharp meteor]

Ignorant.

[wheat jay]

only where to go to cap

[wheat jay]

compared to arena, do you need the same amount of knowledge?

[robust hearth]

Lol ya bro

[sharp meteor]

Different modes.

[robust hearth]

U need to know when somone is out of defensives

[wheat jay]

you need knowledge of what to cap and when

that's all

[robust hearth]

Need to constantly cc healers

Lol it's so easy get r1 in blitz then bet u can't even do it without duo queuing

But I already know your answer u won't do it because you think you're above it but truth is u know u couldn't attain it

[urban skiff]

would it be accurate to say "same amount, different kind"?

[wheat jay]

debatable

[urban skiff]

but not immediately dismissable

[wheat jay]

let me finish with this

[grand echo]

I know if I hit my big damage buttons hard enogh, I win

and if I still dont win my teammates suck

[wheat jay]

if you are god at blitz, youll be average at best in arena

if youre a god in arena, youll also be a god in blitz

there's also the fact that some classes dont even need to play blitz to climb

[copper fox]

Debatably easier for a warr to get higher in blitz solo q. Would rather not take the spot of a duo with a rogue or something important lol

[robust hearth]

[wheat jay]

you can play whatever rogue is strongest and sit base

[robust hearth]

Rogues can do soo much more than just sitting base

[sharp meteor]

I'm confused are people who don't play anything talking about what's harder

[jovial torrent]

5 rating off being on murlok io , tempted to keep playing

[urban skiff]

I'm proof that consistency is not enough to get high rating in blitz

dum dum in everything i do

[wheat jay]

now, meta in 3s

shuffle

[sharp meteor]

u sayin disc is aight?

[wheat jay]

blitz

see the difference in what dps are played?

[boreal veldt]

oh theres arms

[wheat jay]

mainly sub being OP

sub is just an afk spec for it

so if someone is high on sub in blitz

[urban skiff]

what changed?

and what about 2s?

[wheat jay]

its basically worthless

[wheat jay]

dead

gone

forgotten

deflated

[robust hearth]

And if all a rogue does is sit base all game then thts some 1400 cr lobbies

Because they gotta chance to ghost steal other bases peel out help others etc

[urban skiff]

I kinda like 2s with my wife

but we also play disc and feral

[wheat jay]

its fun

[boreal veldt]

mY wIfE

[urban skiff]

pure coincidence

[wheat jay]

disc feral is meta for sure

[rancid granite]

same with healers; i see all the time 'id never play a healer people are SO toxic to them' and its just not the case?? lol

[wheat jay]

ive more often seen healers being toxic lol

xD

[sharp meteor]

ya its usually healers in shuff crashin out

[boreal veldt]

oh 100%

[sharp meteor]

cos they can play 50 games a day