pvp

[fierce elm]

sick

[sharp meteor]

like u trap off a cc roughly off dr

[fierce elm]

If he is a new player to PvP entirely Warrior is outright easier than Hunter

[sharp meteor]

Ehhh.

[sharp meteor]

Nah.

BM always better results.

Even no trapping.

[fierce elm]

sigh

sigh

sigh

[arctic knot]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-hader-eating-popcorn-keith-morrison-dateline-snl-gif-25666169

[fierce elm]

sigh

[sharp meteor]

It's aight you'll learn

[fierce elm]

Naa blocked jarvis.gif

Warrior has to think about so many things in arena its crazy

such as

Hit something, hit something, hit something

Its crazy difficult

[arctic knot]

i just followed ur advice and won a skirmish

who wuldve thought

kept hitting em

[fierce elm]

gaming

Your best bet is just doing BGs for honor however

[sharp meteor]

walk backwards do what the barbed shot weakaura says

[fierce elm]

Skirmishes arent valuable in learning Arena

or even PvP

[sharp meteor]

ya skirms only useful for checking if keybinds/macros/ui works

[boreal veldt]

ye i used 2 whole skirms to legit just adjust my ui

[urban skiff]

You have becometh the drama

[fierce elm]

I have taken the path of just deciding to ignore stuff than engage in it outside of commenting on it right now

Either I can argue that Warriors are fucking stupid as a Warrior player and praise hunter players for actually needing to set stuff up for hours on end

or I can accept that everyone can have their own opinion

[rancid granite]

what if their opinion is wrong?

[fierce elm]

Then they arent going to change anyways lmao

[rancid granite]

:D

[urban skiff]

drop rate from boxes has definitely increased

[fierce elm]

How many times have you met someone with a wrong opinion who still refused to change after being taught they are wrong

[sharp meteor]

Accept that some people can't and won't learn.

[fierce elm]

what are they up to

[boreal veldt]

I feel like pvp has always been a school of hard knocks

[fierce elm]

I got one stone to sell

[sharp meteor]

And they're usually where they should be.

[urban skiff]

not sure, but i've seen more bloodstones this season as drops than i did all of last season

[sharp meteor]

Like 6k on NA. 💰

[urban skiff]

might be a side effect of some other change, like a reduction in drop chance on the crafting recipes

[boreal veldt]

i think i got 2-3 stones all S1

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, I've gotten like 5 so far

which is more than I got in all of Forged.

[urban skiff]

The price on it is being weird right now

[boreal veldt]

I ain't got 1 from this season yet, all my luck is being used crit fishing demolish

[urban skiff]

Cycling between 5k and 4.6k is very little compared to the massive swings last week

[rancid granite]

this week feels so bad if you dont have your weapon upgrade 😔

spent it on holy 1h/shield, so now ret is screwed for like another month isnt it

[urban skiff]

I want to say 5-8 myself

last season i got 3

I think I made 300k on pvp boxes last season

was a good season

[sterile moth]

Dang I don’t remember ever getting a bloodstone from a box

[sharp meteor]

Also man these green heraldry items are so useless after the first few days

worth nothing can't cook anything useful

[urban skiff]

I lost 200k trading green heraldy

I was caught holding the bag

[sterile moth]

You should be able to roll them into an upgrade

Diablo style

[urban skiff]

should be used for crafting sub 70 levelling pvp gear

one piece of absolutely secret tech right now when levelling is buying the green crafted pvp trinkets

when you hit level 70

[slow solstice]

@pale hull one piece

[urban skiff]

no two trinkets

2

[fickle forge]

I found my argument to go roll MM

[slow solstice]

one piece @pale hull

[sterile moth]

wtf

[urban skiff]

get +12% mainstat, +10% stam, like 4k mainstat while doing world content

for 4k gold

levelling becomes very pleasant

[sterile moth]

That’s a great tip Zerch

Thank you

[urban skiff]

🙂

want another tip?

[sterile moth]

Always

[urban skiff]

You'll have to buy me dinner first and maybe pull my hair to get it

[sterile moth]

Yikes

[urban skiff]

Or don't eat yellow snow

[boreal veldt]

man a 40+ yard ranged demolish sounds pretty strong

[pale hull]

the one piece is real

[urban skiff]

that's not even 5m

[slow solstice]

allegedly

[urban skiff]

have you heard about shaman?

[sterile moth]

Whatever they did to fix ele seems to have worked. They seem more dangerous

[boreal veldt]

warr new swifty one shot is trying to DC players with dragon charge + spear tether

[urban skiff]

enh

not ele, yucky

[spice hornet]

Remember when they gutted MS during the pre season with s1 gear

[urban skiff]

every season is the same. "OOPS we forgot to make arms scale with stats. +30% MS buff -> OOOOPS We forgot MS scales fine in PVP. NERF 60%!"

[fickle forge]

It was an instant cast one as well

[violet fossil]

Didn’t know you needed an argument

[wheat jay]

lmao

how cringe is warr in wpvp starting a fight, losing, then going to the edge of the map to glide down cuz he's evoker

xD

[urban skiff]

another 2k gold

[arctic knot]

any recommendation for the first things to spend honor on, or just get everything honor?

[rancid granite]

look up what people are going on murlok, so you can get bloody token items, conquest items, and free weapon, then just spend honor on the rest since itll be like 5k only if that

do the weeklies in dornogal / undermined (western part has 4 weeklies with a lot of loot)

[urban skiff]

Weapons and trinkets. Skip buying neck and rings since you can craft them very eaely

[spice hornet]

epic bg weekly is such pain, wish it was just 2 games no matter what if you win/loss

so boring especially as a warriro

are people back to radiant power over depths?

[rancid granite]

fury, odyns fury, deathwish, mountain thane

[true tiger]

bro

tf is that

why am i slowed in bladestorm

is this a fkn bug

[spice hornet]

mage overpower barrier does it

[boreal veldt]

mage barrier

[spice hornet]

and there is a hunter hero talent proc that does it as well

i would say iots a bug

[true tiger]

is that a fkn joke

we already cant reach mages

XDDD

[spice hornet]

lol yep

its undispellable too

i beleive its physical

mage needs dat you know. they already have trouble snaring people

think of the poor mages

[brazen rock]

the sentinel hunter root doesnt even dr with itself

had the joy of a shuffle lobby with 3 hunters

[true tiger]

nice

i love it

[spice hornet]

yeah i still dont understand why that exists

[true tiger]

fuck that game

[spice hornet]

like non-dring roots

like what in the fk

[true tiger]

lovig it

im slowed in bladestorm

vs worst spec for me

[brazen rock]

hit one, get rooted for 3 seconds, hit the survi, get rooted for 3 seconds, get trap rooted, get binding shotted

[true tiger]

thats why i barelly can reach hunters when its bm and mm

in same team

ggs

[boreal veldt]

i like bm as col i just los with healer and get stacks off pets before i go in

my team doesn't like it

[true tiger]

but hey

mages have + slow

works on ability that shouldnot be slowed

but hey wars need nerf

[spice hornet]

is radiant power doing more dam than authority of the depths now? i noticed warriors at the top are swapping to it, i havent played since week 1 rlly

[true tiger]

rly doesnot matter bro

its 1% back and forth

[spice hornet]

ah

[true tiger]

u can even get 1 on each wep XD

if ur fury

[boreal veldt]

i like rad str proc

[true tiger]

its also haste v s mastery

[boreal veldt]

i see folks using either or

[true tiger]

some fury go haste some go mastery

[sand sundial]

I get like +%30 master minimum then go haste

[copper fox]

No fury goes haste

You’re looking at people who play both

So gear early for both

Not optimized for either

[wispy knoll]

@copper fox hiii

fury wants mostly mastery/vers for pvp right?

high haste does feels awkard for fury pvp

[sharp meteor]

Ye

if u giga high haste can always just play powerful enrage

[spice hornet]

Be careful listening to Kennie hes a prot main at his core and he will lead you astray so you join him

[wispy knoll]

i like low apm for pvp tbh

if its roughly similar damage ,low apm>high apm all day

[urban skiff]

From what i gather they're not really interchangeable

apparently powerful is multiplicative bonus to damage, not just additive

[wispy knoll]

anyon know why

fury and arms are roughly similar tier in solo shuffle

but arms is much better in 2v2s than fury?

[true tiger]

i hate this game man

why is it always mage lobbys

https://tenor.com/view/freak-tweak-tweaker-tweaking-freak-out-gif-16108345590627731463

[spice hornet]

is it?

[wispy knoll]

how do u guys deal with ww?

ya it is

anythign we can do during their conduit?

[true tiger]

/afk

[wispy knoll]

shit seems op

[sharp meteor]

No, it isn't.

[true tiger]

run to ur healer

or jump away

[wispy knoll]

cant even outrun that shit

ya

[true tiger]

jump

make sure to kick lignhtning

[wispy knoll]

theres no way we can 1v1 a ww right?

even a 2400 glad fury would lose to a 1400 onetrick ww

in a pure 1v1

[true tiger]

1v1 war sucks

ass

[wispy knoll]

ya it was good during 11.0 beta

loll

[true tiger]

i playted ww 1 dat

dueled 2.5k war

killed him

told him to delete game

and dipped

[wispy knoll]

ya

ww loses to mw tho

1v1

nothing can beat healer atm , in any 1v1s

[urban skiff]

fury has better ms effect

[true tiger]

ifu want duel specs

[urban skiff]

and i want to say dampening is higher in shuffle

[true tiger]

go ret ww

or rogue

[wispy knoll]

does this stat distribution looks good?

[sharp meteor]

Nope.

Not one with hands, anyways.

[true tiger]

ye

10% haste

rest mastery

solid af

[wispy knoll]

ya i mean even a r1 fury would lose to a 1400 windwalker

lets say the 1400 windwalker is hardstuck, but he knows the basic combo

our grapple doenst do shit vs windwalker right?

like if i grapple weapon during their conduit

i dont think it would affect the damage lol

@sharp meteor @true tiger i was thinking

spell reflecting slicing wind lol

but need to react fast/and can't be stucked in previous gcd

[spice hornet]

I think they only can’t cast fist of fury but that doesn’t matter

Ww damage is too high and their defensives last too long for a warrior to ever win that matchup

[wispy knoll]

ya

blizzard did nerf touch of karma shield right?

lol

its an irrelevant nerf in pvp

lol

[urban skiff]

Man i feel bad for warriors

[wispy knoll]

is fury kinda doggo shit

11.1 now

with battle trance removed

[sharp meteor]

No...?

Fury probs next in line to get nerfed.

[elfin surge]

magnet said fury #5 melee

[sharp meteor]

He really doesn't seem to like being called that.

Also that doesn't stop Warr from being nerfed you know this.

[elfin surge]

does he not

idk i call him magneto

[sharp meteor]

Imma call him maggie and get hate crimed

[elfin surge]

ya ur a furry prot warrior main

[jovial torrent]

problem is most other classes have a auto snare thats really powerful even our slow we have to spend a gcd on is bad

• lots of ppl with freedoms kind of makes it hard for us to stick

usually dh or ww would trade that for being squishy or not as high dps but they kind of have all 3 atm,

[sharp meteor]

I feel like warr is kind of doomed by design

it's too oppressive to bad players becasue it has to do giga damage if in melee range

but fury dmg profile is healthier in the sense you can play reactively to it versus arms when it's viable which just splits your skull in half with a global for 35% into another for 40%.

Necro banner should be a choice node with ava or somethin

[jovial torrent]

im consistantly top 3 dmg in every rbg and i feel like my kill pressure is pretty meh cus ppl can just dash or by the time i go to press execute gcd ppl are above the threshold

[sharp meteor]

Prot being better at executin people than arms was crackin me up last seas

watch arms warr charge a guy at half health he dips into execute range gets executed twice then heals up

i hop on somebody that's struggling and they dead

[urban skiff]

Execute needs to apply sharpen blade, change my mind

Make it a PROBLEM that you got hit by execute

[median lynx]

Or just make Execute like WW's execute where it's a guranteed insta death

[rancid granite]

zercher needs to cook up a warrior 1v1 build

[sharp meteor]

that'd just be prot

[urban skiff]

warrior don't have that much fun shit

Also Kennie is right

[boreal veldt]

our 1v1 is just spear + go and if they don't die, gl

[rancid granite]

i assumed it'd just be fury with a couple choice node difference but prot is still a good answer

[urban skiff]

SMF???

What are you even going to 1v1?

[median lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/jontron-jontron-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-jontron-no-no-no-no-no-no-gif-297652566549452369

[boreal veldt]

if you 1v1 another warr then warr wins 100% of the time

[rancid granite]

i just roam the streets and wait for someone to throw the first punch

[jovial torrent]

i just feel so useless in temple

smacking ppl who hold orbs and they just wonr die

yet i have orb and flop

[median lynx]

...Wait, question thats both dumb and legit...

Is the best spec for farming Sparks of War Prot Warrior then-?

[rancid granite]

i mean in big spark farming groups just AoE, die, repeat anyway

[sharp meteor]

Yeah.

Assuming solo or without a healer.

[sharp meteor]

You just play death wish and bang orb carriers.

[median lynx]

Damn I wish I realized that sooner

Also bring back Gladiator stance as a PVP talent you cowards

https://tenor.com/view/bridget-guilty-gear-bounce-meme-gif-27437636

[jovial torrent]

what do u drop for deathwish , commander?

[sharp meteor]

Warr is honestly useless on almost every map. Like, it's not bad but it doesn't really do anything except okay pve dmg to whatever's nearby.

Picking orbs feels so troll.

Unless you're Prot

[jovial torrent]

just getting tilted from smacking someone to 20% then boop back to 100

[median lynx]

hey at least Prot Warrior is good for when your only Druid is being a....Idk how ppl here feel about curse words but you get what I mean

[sharp meteor]

Like in a pinch you can leap from mid to grab an orb before enemy gets it but still feels eh

[boreal veldt]

was about to say leap is pretty clutch from mid to orb

[sharp meteor]

Ye.

Dude I miss leap into dragon charge on kotmogu

[jovial torrent]

problem is u then get gripped/nudged/rooted 6 different times

[sharp meteor]

owned so much

[sharp meteor]

gnome/ava/reflect into leapies

[rancid granite]

this is what 7 of my teammates say every time i get that map 😂

[jovial torrent]

dh rogue ww are just better at it

[sharp meteor]

Nobody knows what their job is in blitz until kind of high rating so like

kotmogu is often just no picking

cos people dislike dying

[median lynx]

Wait so is the whole thing with Warr is that it's good in Arena's but mediocre in Battlegrounds?

[boreal veldt]

i got flammed by a hunt because my dps was so low but i gapped everyone in objective points, blitz itself is troll

[jovial torrent]

its like top 1/4 in most things

not amazing not bad

[urban skiff]

play enh then

or feral

[median lynx]

So I didn't make a mistake maining Warrior as someone who rarely plays arenas?

[rancid granite]

everyone is fine in battle grounds cept rogues have the edge afaik

[urban skiff]

Idk, on feral I never really feel like I can't handle whatever is in front of me

[rancid granite]

warrior is viable everywhere friend, just not 1v1's like a rogue would

[boreal veldt]

Warrior players are all handsome and jacked, no mistakes were made.

[sharp meteor]

what do u usually do

cos prots better for most casual stuff

[median lynx]

Battlegrounds, mostly Blitz if i can cus normal BGs is so poorly aged

[sharp meteor]

like solo bgs wpvp

any spec fine in blitz but arms/fury both sort of, uh

idk how to describe but warr soft of soft impact without duo

its hard to be bad at but u also dont rly swing anything

[median lynx]

Another dumb question which I probably already know the answer is if Hekili is fine for PVP as it makes a lot of classes I could never play just cus of their rotation easier

[median lynx]

So it's better to just be Prot or Colossus Arms purely cus you'd be harder to kill?

[rancid granite]

use hekili and do a lot of delves imo; really help you learn your class and rotation.... but ignore it for pvp

[sharp meteor]

uh its fine/good for pve probs useless for pvp as i imagine it doesnt have pvp mods

not to mention pvp stuff always changing

[sharp meteor]

depends on what you like

i find prot a lot more fun if i dont have a healer for w/e im doin

[jovial torrent]

furys been ok im 2500 mmr atm, would be having same problems as arms

[median lynx]

The thing is it is adaptive kinda, like it'll tell you to use an interrupt if the target is casting, and it'll swap to a better cleave/aoe spell/ability of there's more than one enemy nearby

It isn't just a stagnant rotation

[sharp meteor]

I'm aware

it's still bad for pvp in those regards tho

[median lynx]

sorry

[sharp meteor]

esp interrupts

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-link-the-legend-of-zelda-a-link-to-the-past-nintendo-gif-19740764

Link is why i like prot

[boreal veldt]

shield mogs are always goated

[median lynx]

Well I like blowing ppl up but apparently Warrior isn't good at that if I'm reading all this right so

Blowing people up and being melee, so I ain't playing Hunter

[sharp meteor]

WArr generally is more throughput based

[median lynx]

I'd only play a ranged if they just shit out slows like Frost

[sharp meteor]

fury has absurd burst rn but probs nerfed soon

[jovial torrent]

problem is u do ur big rampage, get someone low then they get kept above execute range during micro stuns

[sharp meteor]

You just always be doin' damage.

Fury is rping as a BM hunter pet.

[jovial torrent]

playing thane , tc slaps

[median lynx]

Well I'm arms rn (despite the name, I'm not paying blizzard for a name change) despite knowing Arms is more utility and sustained cus I heard Arms is better for BGs than Fury

cus of Utility or somethin

[boreal veldt]

Mmm, i'd argue fury and arms fufil the same role in bgs

[rancid granite]

spin node do dam

[boreal veldt]

the utility angle is kinda overstated

[median lynx]

Also cus I already had Arms at 1k rating, and wanted to unlock the Classic PVP Warrior stuff so

[median lynx]

Ok what does "Spin" mean btw I kept seeing it get thrown around but never understood

[spice hornet]

Yeah it had sharpen and maybe 1 more free pvp talent lawl

And is somewhat tankier

[median lynx]

I do feel like Warrior in PVP is a Glass Cannon without the Cannon part sometimes

[sharp meteor]

We aren't glass.

[median lynx]

Unless I'm only Colossus, and in Defense Stance

[median lynx]

I feel like it when someone just looks at me and I die in a few hits- But that's probably cus I'm bad at using defensives idk

[sharp meteor]

That's just lack of dmg foresight which kind of comes with time.

[rancid granite]

spin aka just chill at the flag, defend it basically lol

[sharp meteor]

Hit people so they can't capture a flag, like blacksmith or waterworks.

[median lynx]

...That's a weird term to use for defending something-

Why not just say 'Turtle'

[sharp meteor]

Well, it's the term that's used.

[rancid granite]

I had the same question not long ago LOL

[sharp meteor]

Because that means wall up defensively in base or w/e

[median lynx]

cus I thought "Spin" meant go from objective to objective

[rancid granite]

WoW also came up with terms like twinks, so, yeah

[median lynx]

Like if I wasin AB, and someone told me "Spin" I'd just assume they meant go in a 360 between the bases--

[rancid granite]

i thought it was a warrior term at first lol

[median lynx]

Tbh, being Colossus on Defensive stance just stalling the f out of the flag in the Nether BG was the one time I felt actually useful-useful-

[median lynx]

YEAH I also thought ppl were saying to use Bladestorm or Whirl-

[urban skiff]

What the heck do afflics do when they're bursting

I can't figure out when i'm supposed to play careful

[median lynx]

But yeah I was hopinh Hekili would be usable in PVP cus of how I wanna play multiple different classes since I'm a casual most the time, and I was thinking Feral druid but the one thing that deters me is its rotations being complicated most the time. And button bloat

[jovial torrent]

unreal, i have a afk priest in my bg game, why can he be on other team

[boreal veldt]

play around haunt maybe?

[urban skiff]

hekili is decent for some things but only as useful as your knowledge

[median lynx]

Maybe I'll find someone who made a vid that's "Feral Rotation for dummies" like I have for Asass, Arms and WW

[sharp meteor]

That'd be like rotating, floating, bouncing between or w/e depending on context.

[urban skiff]

snupy on youtube has a guide

[sharp meteor]

Spinning as warr is what I just spent 10 mins doing which was making sure nobody clicked my flag at bs.

[median lynx]

Does it make Feral's rotation idiot-proof-? (Idiot is a harsh word, I mean like, "Idk what I'm doing" proof)

[sharp meteor]

Feral is an advanced spec in general recommend just playing warr more until comfortable

[sharp meteor]

Nothing about feral is idiot proof I fear

[median lynx]

Comfortable with Warr or PVP?

[sharp meteor]

YEs.

[rancid granite]

telling you just solo some delves with it it'll teach you your class and rotation

[median lynx]

Cus I'm already comfortable with Warr, and PVP to a degree so thats kinda why I wanna leave the comfort zone

[median lynx]

Don't classes have entirely different rotations between PvE and PVP??

most of the time at least

[rancid granite]

not really, just pick pvp spec from murlok, go do some delvin

while delving set up skillbar, read skills, practice rotation

[jovial torrent]

what is matchmaking doing

[rancid granite]

can get a bit tough so you can use cc etc

[median lynx]

skillbar?

[jovial torrent]

sorted by rating

[rancid granite]

hotbar, whatever :p

[median lynx]

are those the action bars that have just skills for you to track easier?

[urban skiff]

is haunt a cooldown or what?

[median lynx]

or do you mean stuff like TMW

[rancid granite]

just your action bars, macros etc

this is coming from a simple warrior main; learned to play every rogue spec, and other warrior specs first in delves -> then took em bg's

[median lynx]

Ok I guess

[boreal veldt]

i know it's a thicc spell that chunks when reflected so i think it's a mean one, but thats all i know about aff

[median lynx]

At least Delves aren't that annoying anymore

[urban skiff]

Been climbing to 1600rating and 2500conq with my wife and the dummy informs me NOW that she's been wearing s1 gear

[median lynx]

Normally what I did was just beat up the training dummies til it's in the muscle memory

[rancid granite]

👎

[boreal veldt]

purple is better than greens, duh

[rancid granite]

delves can get to be 'difficult' so itll help teach you like, defense and healing etc

[urban skiff]

that's almost verbatim what she said

[jovial torrent]

how predictable the team with a 300 rating disadvantage gets slammed , hmmm

matchmaking being unkind tonight

[median lynx]

I always found that rated was just rigged as hell

[sharp meteor]

i like how a 2k player who wins 5 matches in a row can be same mmr as, like

one of the top 10 players

mmr slides all over the place

[jovial torrent]

there was a guy with 2 games played in my 2500 game

had green weps

[sharp meteor]

my rogues like 3050 with 8 games or somethin

[green wharf]

so, crit bad stat confirmed ?

[median lynx]

Btw a system I've been using is to not buy green weapons, but to wait til my first BG win, and buy 1 purple crafting reagent to craft order purple crafted weapons

Is that a good system or am I high

[sharp meteor]

That's really, really bad.

Because we get free weapons at 2500 conq earned.

[median lynx]

Yeah but aren't crafted better than the conq weapons sometimes?

[sharp meteor]

Not really.

[fierce elm]

The system he is using is buying Conquest heraldries oh no

[rancid granite]

crafted = more stats less vers

[urban skiff]

no

[median lynx]

Also I don't really wanna wait til 2500 conq just for weapons since the greens are stupid expensive

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, crit is terrible.

[urban skiff]

The answer is that it's complicated

Your goal isn't to have maximum dps

[sharp meteor]

No, it's just terrible.

[urban skiff]

Your goal is to have the highest burst in the shortest interval

[median lynx]

What about the missives that make it where you do get more vers

[sharp meteor]

Crit hasn't been good since, like, Crimson.

Or Shadowlands.

[rancid granite]

you'll catch it up quickly, bloody token gear is quick, and conq adds up quick

missives just make it the stat you want

[sharp meteor]

He means crafted stat distribution is 50/50 whereas vendor gear is more heavily vers weighted.

Like wep might be 1000 vers 1000 mastery vs 1500 vers and 500 mastery

[rancid granite]

missives you can choose what stats you want ie haste/vers vs mastery/vers, and yeah that

[sharp meteor]

but we can bounce stats around elsewhere

there's no situation where you ever craft wep unless you don't care about setting yourself behind a few weeks

[boreal veldt]

:[

[urban skiff]

pvp gear is so fucking annoying like that

[median lynx]

Ok cus I remember posting an Algari greatsword and ppl said Conq wouldn't be better than it so now I'm getting mixed reviews

[sharp meteor]

They're both viable options but wasting your heraldries at this stage of the season is always bad.

[urban skiff]

Honor gear has static non-vers and the vers scales up, while the conq gear has more vers than other secondary effect, but they scale equally

It's so annoying

[sharp meteor]

Because you get a free weapon.

Ascension and whatever the vers wep emb aren't really good as focusing lens just giga

so crafting weps doesn't rly offer anything

[rancid granite]

new season, currency is capped

[sharp meteor]

and it's bad early season

so

[median lynx]

You get a free weapon at 2500 conq which can take forever...

[green wharf]

the only time i ever used crit was with frost dk last season

[sharp meteor]

I got like 2k conq today on 2 chars

[fierce elm]

You litearlly just farm it passively

[green wharf]

but it was like basic bitch 13%

[median lynx]

How long did that take

[verbal tangle]

Double Focusing Lens for all specs?

[sharp meteor]

Idk few crates few bgs. I could've finished it sooner if I just queued some 2s

[sharp meteor]

Probs bis for all 3 specs ye

[green wharf]

you do sparks of war and some of the weekly pvp quests, and sit around a map getting crates

easy conq farm

[sharp meteor]

ascension+banding might be okay but probs just go with focusing lens

[median lynx]

Cus I dont have a lot of gaming stamina to just que and que and que. Getting to 1800 took so much out of me especially

[sharp meteor]

tldr crafting wep bad bad bad until conq uncapped no exceptions

but in the end doesnt matter cos conq uncapped in month and a half or two

and seasons last 6 months

[rancid granite]

thus don't be in a rush

:)

[copper fox]

IM IN A RUSH

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-bizzare-adventure-rohan-kishibe-i-refuse-gif-26066583

[sharp meteor]

I mean that's what I usually tell people but everybody tryna blast week 1-2

[rancid granite]

i no-lifed 1800 and delves myself now im sore and tired

[median lynx]

I just don't like the gearing phase of playing PvP cus I'd rather just be able to play it (and have it actually playable) on the go and not spend hours just to get greens

[sharp meteor]

when balance is in shambles ladder not giga inflato

[rancid granite]

i shouldnt have rushed

[sharp meteor]

You can get full bis right now in like an afternoon or two of arena.

[rancid granite]

gearing is easy as heck

[fierce elm]

Welcome to a long standing complaint

that wasn't helpful with Legion templates being ass

[sharp meteor]

Gearing has never been this fast and easy.

[rancid granite]

easiest its ever been is it not?

ok yeah

:b

[green wharf]

nah i rushed 1.8 on me war on day one, so i dont need to q with it ever again

[fierce elm]

and something Blizzard can easily put in and make it level and play

[sharp meteor]

Gearing is so fast everybody fotm rerolls on cd

[rancid granite]

so you won 5 games going 3-3

[median lynx]

Rated or skirmish

[sharp meteor]

tuning gonna be out tomorrow they're gonna giga buff ret and unholy and everybody gonna fotm over to those

[fierce elm]

Queue BG blitz or Solo shuffle

ez honor and conq

[green wharf]

no

[sharp meteor]

Conquest lazy method is join crate farm group.

Fast way is 2s or 3s spam but this requires friends

[copper fox]

Watch the demo lock buff come in

[median lynx]

I am pretty much traumatized from Blitz after having to farm it to 1800 (exaggerated)

[urban skiff]

can confirm only fast if it's a friend

wives make it slow

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-im-counting-on-ralph-fellows-murdoch-mysteries-counting-on-it-hopefully-gif-24632062

[median lynx]

And my one friend is a mfer who can never decide if he is actually getting on or not

[rancid granite]

man i feel healer mains now, going 3-3 or 4-2 and getting nothing for rating felt so bad lmao; but doing it on dps i got 1800 so quick

[urban skiff]

bro are you eu?

[sharp meteor]

Does he heal cos that makes it easier

[median lynx]

No we're both Americans

[copper fox]

Same tbh

[median lynx]

Nope. He only plays DPS. As do I

[sharp meteor]

Ya so does everybody else so

[green wharf]

i cant stand afflic, demo was rpetty great last season

[median lynx]

We had to grind my Ret to 1500 in 2s with us both being DPS. It sucked

[sharp meteor]

u sit around for half hour finding healer lose twice they leave gg

[fierce elm]

Ret and 2s what the fuck

[sharp meteor]

ret 2s can be aight

[median lynx]

I forgot to add it was in DF

[sharp meteor]

warr ret 2s not so much

[median lynx]

not WW

[fierce elm]

Ret and 2s what the fuck

[sharp meteor]

also bad

xd

Man idk if I buy 2hs or 1h and shield.

[median lynx]

Thats what happens when you were a Ret main and your friend was a DH main

[green wharf]

it was the only caster i got duelist

[fierce elm]

you find some rando ass healer in LFG

and go slam 3s

[median lynx]

I never did

[green wharf]

i did that once last week

not so great

[fierce elm]

takes some time

[median lynx]

Idk if it was cus I was Ret, or cus I wasn't mega geared, but ppl never let me in or joined us

[green wharf]

but that was my luck

[fierce elm]

Probably because you were low XP

is my thought

[green wharf]

Need at least some shuffle or blitz ranking to get considered

[fierce elm]

Shuffle kek

Blitz kek

[median lynx]

Also random side track, I'm so fucking glad PVP gear crafts don't need the Sparks (or whatever they're called now) anymore holy crap that was annoying

[fierce elm]

you mean free rating

[green wharf]

what rating are you buying?

[fierce elm]

free as fuck

[median lynx]

...Well I just remembered I did buy a Conq 1-hander with one of my tokens on Warrior so I might try Prot just to be a clown

[copper fox]

@sharp meteor you buy 1h and shield

Your character doesn’t make sense otherwise

[urban skiff]

would have offered you come play with us if you had been euu

[median lynx]

You'd probably just get frustrated with my dumb plays anyway lol

[urban skiff]

Already playing with my wife

who i adore and she's great

[median lynx]

or the fact I bought Purple Helmet--

[urban skiff]

nothing can bring me down

[median lynx]

which when transformed gives crit

cus I didn't check what stats the set gives

I'm a fool, I know nothing, and I take the role of a silly clown

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smooth-brain-silly-cute-gif-12951836389394006733

[median lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/potemkin-potemkin-buster-ggst-guilty-gear-guilty-gear-strive-gif-3061311220130155029

[fierce elm]

GGS MENTIONED

[median lynx]

Ok time to find a Prot warrior talent build

[urban skiff]

try this

[boreal veldt]

col arms calls to you my crit friend

[green wharf]

Prot was is pretty solid on blitz

[boreal veldt]

join the cursed mast/crit build

[green wharf]

Bless no

[boreal veldt]

no double digit haste % in sight

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[median lynx]

I don't get it

[median lynx]

Is that the bleed build

Or a different Arms Col build

[boreal veldt]

it's definitely different

[median lynx]

So it's not this

[sharp meteor]

Hell yeah prot mentioned 🤡

[fierce elm]

stop

cease

[boreal veldt]

lmfaoooo

[median lynx]

I think I fucked up my stats tbh

[green wharf]

problem with prot are the Q times, i was sitting 50m to get one game

[green wharf]

its fine

[median lynx]

Wdym Tanks take longer to find queues than DPS

[sharp meteor]

All my queus been fasts

[sharp meteor]

At higher mmr ya

but low-mid its chillins

Idk if I've had a queue over 5 mins

[green wharf]

my longest q as prot was 1h and 20m in 1.7k bracket

[sharp meteor]

Spun my node twice while cc'd with mechagnome racial

[green wharf]

[median lynx]

So whats better then, Slayer Arms or Col Arms

[sharp meteor]

Fury.

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-hes-right-you-know-correct-true-right-gif-27174315

[median lynx]

...I shoulda seen that coming yknow what fair

[jovial torrent]

just tried slayer fury , felt miserable compared to thane

[sharp meteor]

Where's the atake meme

[median lynx]

I got to 1800 on my Arms I don't need to play it no more

[sharp meteor]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmW1fQjbYAATtrx?format=png&name=small

[boreal veldt]

there it is

[fierce elm]

Slayer Fury and thane fury have minimal differences

acting like its a huge different spec over here

like it doesnt come down to the same basic stuff

[sharp meteor]

Ya its like do u want single target pressure or aoe cleavies

[green wharf]

i made this, cause both specs only have one viable option of hero spec

since season 1

[sharp meteor]

yeah lmao

[fierce elm]

No no no guys, Slayer feels TERRIBLE compared to thane lmao

I feel USELESS

[green wharf]

thats cuz you dont have hair

[fierce elm]

sits 50/50 on ladder 🤔

[wheat jay]

Same argument i had with kargish about colossus and slayer

[sharp meteor]

slayer with bad target selection and spacin does legit nothin

[wheat jay]

ITS THE SAME SHIT

[fierce elm]

colo and slayer arms has one difference

[wheat jay]

Cuz you dont even press demo

[fierce elm]

and that is that you dont press Execute as colo

[wheat jay]

You keep stacks for more OP dmg

[green wharf]

colossus is worse cause less bladestorm

and everyone will know you are cringe if you play colossus

[boreal veldt]

:[

[sharp meteor]

Triple down on cringe and play prot.

Beat in the skull of every fury and arms warr

[boreal veldt]

idk why i'm mad at that when my entire build is riddled w/ cringe

[green wharf]

imagine playing prot and not playing thane

the giga chad spec

[sharp meteor]

thane prot so chadded in bgs

so madge they nerfed us by 20%

twice

spec was almost half as good as rogue

[green wharf]

you tclap and kill invisible rogues and druids, there is no better feeling than that

[rancid granite]

you can still play arms bro

[urban skiff]

barely hit 1600 MMR and everything is afflic + healer

what is up with all the warlocks all of a sudden

[rancid granite]

i mean im not playing arms even though i keep saying i would but you can still play arms

[green wharf]

even wpvp is hard with prot now

people used to see me shield and run away in the other direction, now they are being bold

[boreal veldt]

thats how i feel about disc priests

i see one and just say "whats the point"

[jovial torrent]

what do u guys prefer, powerful enrage for damage, or frenzied enrage for 15% haste 10% movespeed

[rancid granite]

slayer/frenzied thane/powerful

[jovial torrent]

how come thane powerful over frenzied

just cus thane is more aoe?

[green wharf]

lmao, i see one and i just fly away, no one die and the fight drags for 40m

once i a disc tried to attack me as a prot, after 20m he gave up and let me kill him

[urban skiff]

in world?

[green wharf]

ye

[urban skiff]

my experience with disc in world trying to kill my prot is that they eventually just try and run away or go to a spot where they can mindcontrol you off

this is what you save dragon charge for

[rancid granite]

probably? seems like the majority on mulok did it, and it makes sense to me without any math involved lol

but i feel powerful can work fine with both anyway?

i asked the same question never got much of an answer; tried out both a lot

didn't notice a difference really

[urban skiff]

Math is that powerful is multiplicative bonus where frenzied is additive

[jovial torrent]

yeh, ive played a bit of both so not really sure, trying some frenzied atm , thinking maybe with extra gcd i can just pump out mroe dps

than the actual dmg boost

[rancid granite]

i end up doing it for the thematics and roleplay it fits well :)

[urban skiff]

Take frenzied if you need the movement speed and powerful if you want to be able to do something for an extra global before getting enrage again

also keep in mind if you try to play around the extra 1 sec enrage: Rampage and onslaught benefits from the enrage they proc. BT does not benefit from applying enrage

but tldr: Don't worry about it, if you aren't at your potential just play whichever feels better and makes you play more

[median lynx]

Nope I just went thru a EBG and I actually killed ppl

Friendship ended with Arms now Fury is my new best friend

[jovial torrent]

i feel like my game tonight have been lost by random decisions, like ppl just randomly leaving eots flag in mid while we were pushign them back to try steal their base, but then we wipe mid due to being 2 man down

[median lynx]

...Guys do I buy a purple shield or more purple gear

This is an actual question idk what to do cus I have 633 conq rn

[jovial torrent]

are u playing prot, dunno why u would want a shield

[median lynx]

I plan to play Prot for funnies and for BGs yeah

[rancid granite]

we've been over this

[median lynx]

I probably shouldn't buy a purple shield if it's just Prot for funnies

[rancid granite]

you get free weapons

[median lynx]

I
Already
Used
my
Tokens

[rancid granite]

but you were just complaining conquest is gonna take forever like 20mins ago

so #doubt

[median lynx]

On a new character.

Not my bloody main

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/crunchy-cat-monkeycatluna-monkey-cat-luna-judging-cat-cat-judging-gif-11023608558760086053

[median lynx]

Shuddup

[rancid granite]

looks photoshopped

[median lynx]

Ok well I'm just gonna buy a green shieldthen

in case I don't actually like Prot

[rancid granite]

solid choice

[median lynx]

...Why does this guy who's talents I stole have the Earthquaker talent but not Shockwave...

[rancid granite]

you'll like it but you're gonna want to go back fury i'm sure

[jovial torrent]

get one with bloody tokens

[median lynx]

Actually yeah no why does this guy not have Shockwave-

[rancid granite]

can be weak

[median lynx]

He's colossul Prot but doesn't have Shockwave even tho one of Col's hero talents requires Shockwave

[rancid granite]

one thing fury got over arms for things like battlegrounds btw, death wish, amazing talent

[median lynx]

I guess he just ignores it

[green wharf]

already did that meme last year:

[rancid granite]

lolol

[jovial torrent]

i really should try use deathwish, but i just feel like il kill myself with the bonus dmg taken

[median lynx]

Anyways now I gotta try and figure out Prot's rotation

[green wharf]

you just shield slam and thunderclap on cd

if they are both in cd use revenge/slam

[median lynx]

Wait so it's a 3 button class??

[rancid granite]

isnt revenge core to col. prot

[green wharf]

i mean, its the basics

[rancid granite]

thane spam tclap col spam revenge no?

[median lynx]

There any sites or someone who made a guide for Prot PVP? Cus I heard Icy-Veins is just kinda ass

sorry, language

[green wharf]

you can say worse

[median lynx]

nvm I can just try to google it

...Wait when did this season start again

[green wharf]

what kind of guide do you want

[wispy knoll]

need a pocket healer tho

if u rocking death wish

loll

[median lynx]

Just something to tell me the rotation, what can be macro'd together etc

[fierce elm]

Rotation is Rampage

[median lynx]

Murlok io is good for gear, stats and talents but doesn't tell you gameplay stuff

[fierce elm]

or are you arms

[median lynx]

Oh no I'm talkin Prot

[fierce elm]

what the fuck

[median lynx]

I know Fury's rotation

[fierce elm]

What the fuck prot rotation

GET THSI PROT TALK OUTTA HERE

[median lynx]

Iirc Fury is just stacking Raging Blows then Rampage

[fierce elm]

depends on thane vs fury

[median lynx]

Thane vs fury

[fickle forge]

Uuuuuh

[fierce elm]

vs slayer

[median lynx]

Ah yes the legendary 4th Warr spec.

Thane

Lmao

[green wharf]

guides wont do that, but like i said its rpetty intuitive, just hit buttons on CD

shieldslam>tclap>revenge

keep ignore pain up as much as you can

[median lynx]

Well if it's that simple and everything else is a conditional button press than yeah I should be fine

[green wharf]

use other CDs to defend

like shield block, shield wall

use avatar/dragon roar to attack

use execute when it procs

pretty easy

[median lynx]

Alright sounds simple enough

[median lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/bozo-the-clown-stupid-im-gif-27152749

We do a little clowning

Wait is Prot a good flag carrier, I remember reading that on Icy Veins, but again...Icy Veins. Only recently realized it's bad

[ruby light]

i havent played in 2 expacs is there somewhere that i can find what pvp pieces to focus on first

[fierce elm]

https://murlok.io/warrior/fury/3v3

can also pick arms

you get weapons for free once you get 2500 conquest so dont buy weapons

[ruby light]

the only thing confusing is what to spend my blood moon tokens on or conquest and what to convert to a tier set

[fierce elm]

Bloody tokens are generally used for smaller pieces

But you can also get shoulders or something similar

You convert hands and chest into tier pieces

Hands and chest are conquest pieces to be turned into tier pieces*

[ruby light]

chest from blood moon tokens?

[fierce elm]

no

conquest

[ruby light]

oh so conquest for hands and chest then

[fierce elm]

yeah

[ruby light]

oh okay got it

[fierce elm]

Bloody tokens at minimum are back+belt imo, but you can also do back+bracers+shoulders I think now

my math might be off on that

[ruby light]

got it, ill focus on that

is there any crafted gear i could buy, only saw 606 on ah

[fierce elm]

not anything thats worthwhile no

full honor and get into rated content

[ruby light]

okay cool got it

[median lynx]

So anything that costs below 800 BT you buy

But anything at or above 800 you buy with Conq

[fierce elm]

Entirely depends on stats and what week we are in

but yes

[jovial torrent]

i think thats enough rbg for tonight lost like 80% of my games

[green wharf]

back+belt+bracer+ something that cost 700 or 875 if you can

with blood token

700 gloves and turn into tier was a common pick

If you start now you ahve 2800 and can buy the 3 pieces that cost 875

and next week you already can buy a piece that cost 700(gloves, shoulder, feet)

[ruby light]

so is this from crafted then

[fierce elm]

yes

[sharp meteor]

ye

[fierce elm]

Algari Competitor is the name of crafted gear

[green wharf]

you get 9 heraldry, so you craft 2 rings with focusing lens and craft one neck

[ruby light]

got it thanks

[median lynx]

...I defo fucked up when buying my gear lmao

[spice hornet]

this warr sitting at the top of this tower with assassin alone and the most buffs ive ever seen with the guild name <WE ARENT GETTING BANNED> is totally exploiting something isnt he

[fierce elm]

Or they have jsut giga-optimized open world content

who knows

who cares

[spice hornet]

yeah he somehow self heals a ton

and then when hes about to die he uses that macro that q's you into something and auto accepts it

but also im pretty sure i heard someone complaining about that guild saying its filled with bug abusers

[median lynx]

Tichondrius players when ppl play Unranked game modes casually

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

[sterile moth]

Shit talking whispers after a skirmish are goated

[median lynx]

Oh no I'm talking about this guy who did literally nothing but yell at ppl all Battleground

when losing the BG literally means nothing

Like, you get less honor than you would a win, oh nooo

[sterile moth]

Yeah, just take your L and shut up

Always be professional and helpful unless trolling about SMF

or duels

[median lynx]

Average tich player

Meanwhile this Aug Evoker kept coming to Lighthouse and dying for it-

different match btw

and everytime he was gonna kill me I just popped defensives and got all my health back lmfao

yeah i think I might like Prot

[green wharf]

its just stacking buffs from different expansions

im seeing that sausage from DF

the candle from this expansion

[heady mist]

Is it worth leveling another warrior so that I can spend catalyst charges on pvp gear in peace, or am I overthinking it?

[spice hornet]

imagine doiung that ho

[sharp meteor]

Why would u do that

[heady mist]

Cause I might raid with my warrior, and I am obliged to spend the catalyst on pve gear.

And from today until I get full myth track tier pieces and upgrade them to 678 would take a few weeks based on my luck

[sharp meteor]

They added these this patch

they can be applied to "pve" tier to make it scale to conq ilev

it was meant to fix the "second char for pvp" issue

[heady mist]

I love you

thank you

[sharp meteor]

Have fun. 😁 I thought it was a super cool addition becasue it feels so bad choosing, lmao.

[spice hornet]

@sharp meteor Kennie Chrissy very scared that execute gonna get smacked with the nerf bat tomorrow

[sharp meteor]

Feral/Rogue buffs, Fury nerfs

📉

[spice hornet]

Yeah they always get an indirect buff because Blizz doesn’t dare give them the heavy hand and they get 1 nerf, then all the other stuff gets nerfed in other waves

[sharp meteor]

Disc 3% nerf rdruid 2.5% more rejuv

[spice hornet]

Yep

[green wharf]

WW, DH, MM War nerfs

Demo, Ret, Sub, Mage bufs

you hard here first folks

i got ion on telegram and he just said that to me

[sterile moth]

Move over guys, you’re looking at season 2 duelist

[azure moss]

This is cursed

[fierce kite]

Which is the better spec? or are both good?

[green wharf]

?

[azure moss]

But are you a season 2 the real deal??

[sterile moth]

@azure moss No 😩

@green wharf !

[green wharf]

what?

[sterile moth]

You responded to me with a “?”

[green wharf]

cause i didnt understood what you said

so the question mark

[sterile moth]

Oh I see. I got 2100 in shuffle

[green wharf]

[sterile moth]

Goal is to push up to legend this season

Eeked out elite last season. Doubt rank 1 is ever in the cards but you never know

[urban skiff]

Am I the only one having a difficult time adjusting to rsham not being trash now?

[spice hornet]

I’m having a hard time adjusting to static field totem not being reflectable anymore

As a gnome warrior I don’t find rsham that annoying or broken. Hpal prob was the worst for warr with 2 bops and freedoms and bub

Rsham on a caster though is unbearable feels like grounding is always up

[robust hearth]

Damn and here i was about to say I like ur pfp, then you gonna and talk shit about me while I'm playing AC shadows

So get r1 in blitz then

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-gae-pepe-julien-gif-13687553676606303412

[robust hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-meme-funeral-dancers-dancing-pallbearers-gif-17047395

[spice hornet]

Sitting queues all day and being a damage bot isn’t fun

[urban skiff]

This is on feral though

They used to be nom and meow I have to wait for their mana bar to be gone before they die

[robust hearth]

Only way to solve tht issue is to scrap arenas for good

[thick reef]

Ahh it ain’t that bad the climb is relatively quick

[boreal veldt]

i hate that we beat bajheera in a blitz but he still gapped me by damage by 3x cause i was fc bodyguard

[spice hornet]

Nobody looking at that number if you won

[boreal veldt]

i'm rewatching his vod, it's just me spamming ham and intervene lmfao

[spice hornet]

Still wondering why hamstring exists in 2025 as I’m being auto attacked by a rogue or a dragon is spam disintegrating me with a slow baked in while he flies around

[boreal veldt]

it does add an appeal to imp tclap

not as big a slow as ham but it feels better

[spice hornet]

Heroic throw should apply hamstring. Is there even an equivalent ability for any other class? It does probably the lowest amount of damage possible amongst all abilities that do dam

[boreal veldt]

nah ham is dated

last time it was changed they removed the root by applying it twice

[spice hornet]

lol yeah in like Cata

Then they have that to ww basically

[boreal veldt]

the dust on that ability is from the Byzantine empire

[green wharf]

because pve dumbasses think is fine

[spice hornet]

It’s gotta go

[green wharf]

some of then want arms to be "complex" to brag they have brains to play an 'difficult spec"

[spice hornet]

Heroic throw is another ability I think they forgot about as well. I get that it’s for pulling mobs really but in like Cata it actually did a couple of % of damage or more, in retail these days it does .00001%

[sharp meteor]

Oh.

Here I was thinking I was old and getting mine knocked off.

[spice hornet]

lol yep doesn’t work anymore since the patch

[sharp meteor]

There was that move that made all buttons cost no rage in legion

and you'd spam off global hamstring or something

so now it's on global despite deadly calm or w/e being gone

ggs

[spice hornet]

Lmao

[sharp meteor]

remember crushing blow charge

pvemans spam charged into mechanics and died

[spice hornet]

I loved that a lot

[sharp meteor]

so they removed it

[spice hornet]

Oh yeah in PvE that was actually so annoying

[boreal veldt]

legion also had focused rage which was one of the most cringe talents i ever seen

[sharp meteor]

wow i got hand pain ust readin that

[boreal veldt]

sorry brotha

didn't mean to bring back the memories

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/giygas-cat-melon-cat-psychotic-gif-25770926

thats it

i aint doing pve this expansion either

Arms should have a talent called boiling point, that makes you have full rage

It would work like focus/energy

would make different from fury making something unique and thematic to the calculated warrior, "you are always angry" kind of vibe

that or bake that mechanic into arms rework

[boreal veldt]

Execute talents need rework, EP should be a self buff, spiteful serenity needs to be taken out back with juggernaut, we deserve conq banner instead of fatality

but maybe i'm crazy

[fossil mortar]

You crazy. Jugg should stack 99 times, and no, they shouldn't balance around the max potential. Just the same expected stack amount as current jugg

[urban skiff]

This is it

[boreal veldt]

[urban skiff]

my masterpiece

@fierce elm @fickle forge @rancid granite @wheat jay

[boreal veldt]

🙏

[robust hearth]

Mofo y u don't tag me I'm a proud supporter of the enhance and arcane dream as well

[robust hearth]

Bigdâm is my gd shaman hero

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-delete-eyebrows-gif-9384414952848295478

[boreal veldt]

/wave

[green wharf]

of course he would be using the clown mog

[boreal veldt]

lmao

[urban skiff]

straight up deleted rogue

[solemn pasture]

Hi guys I tried to check pins but couldn’t find anything, is fury using 4 set?

[urban skiff]

We don't know yet. It's untested

[rancid granite]

this is a mood

[urban skiff]

I couldn't even fit all my buttons on that shit

Enh isn't even half as uncomfortable to play as warrior in regards to keybinds and rotations

[rancid granite]

arms is back confirmed

COLOSSUS too

[robust hearth]

[rancid granite]

arms players are learning

[robust hearth]

I haven't touched warrior at all this expansion

I like slayer is slayer good yet?

I miss necro banner executes

[wheat jay]

Its the same shit tho

[rancid granite]

first time ive seen more col than slayer

[wheat jay]

The only difference is do you want to press exe or op

And once in a while demolish to pray for some crit

[verbal tangle]

Slayer's always been good

[elfin surge]

https://x.com/bigmoranx/status/1902851966524612741?s=46&t=XTh2dVvKrzKJ4TvuxlEJUQ

Bigmoran (@Bigmoranx) on X

EU seems to think that Fury Warrior is a bad spec. 🤔

Do you agree?

X · Mar 20, 2025, 10:37 PM

[urban skiff]

good

[rancid granite]

fury warriors would love to vote on this... if only they could read

[urban skiff]

what

too busy having a panic over this lobby

healers are super low rated

[urban skiff]

perfect execution

with 7k to spare

[fickle forge]

Remove fury

[urban skiff]

make fury a healer spec tbh

[sterile moth]

Wow resto druids are completely wheelchair right now

[rancid granite]

as in easy to play, or handicapped

[sterile moth]

Handicapped

[lavish quest]

@fierce elm you still use the skillcap ui?

[sterile moth]

The skill gap between a good disc and bad is pretty funny too

[warm pollen]

this sux

30 points per win

[rancid granite]

skillcapped ui pretty op starting point

[lavish quest]

Better than it was last season

[rancid granite]

i used it as a base then customized it a little bit

[lavish quest]

I have my own set up. But considering trying it. Is the free version garbo?

[rancid granite]

i haven't even seen what any paid versions bring

but the base addons/ui seem pretty awesome to me lol

[lavish quest]

Good to know. Was worried the free version would be some gimp shit cuz I ain't dropping dollas

[rancid granite]

it should have an option when you're first starting it that you can just revert the ui easily if you dont like it

[sharp meteor]

Bigdebuffs, sarena or gladius, omnibar, omnicd

Idk why anybody would ever pay

[rancid granite]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/skill-capped-ui

[rancid granite]

when i started again, all the top pvpers gave relatively the same addon list, but one prefs this one prefs that, so it was super annoying

so having one place just 'here's the list and we customized it for you already' is just awesome :b

for free

[sharp meteor]

ui personal tho

its like guys what do i bind raging blow to

[rancid granite]

addonlist great, ui... good starting point

lol

then customize it from there

[lavish quest]

It just saves work. Like I've been using some pvpers plater profile for a while now, but I modified it to work well enough in pve too

[rancid granite]

everyone needs a good starting point

like your mom dressing you up for school, then slowly you learn to dress up yourself

skillcapped is just your mom saying 'here's what the cool kids are wearing honey'

[sharp meteor]

arena frames, omnibar, bigdebuffs

into diminish and omnicd

[rancid granite]

you said 5 things, skillcapped is 1 thing

[fierce elm]

yes

Its literally just the same shit as it always was

Also this 'why pay' its a free UI brother bears

Its literally just profiles for the addons they tell you to download

its not like it locks you into anything

[lavish quest]

Well Aatos kind of answered, but I wanted to know if the free version was trash or not

[fierce elm]

Its pretty much the same except you dont get any support from their discord iirc

[sharp meteor]

its legit just all the addons people have already used

[fierce elm]

But yeah its just profiles loaded onto the addons

[sharp meteor]

if you're too dumb to install them individually or config them

[fierce elm]

Yeah why spend an hour on that

[lavish quest]

^

[fierce elm]

when I can just have it do it for me

weird

[lavish quest]

Then a patch drops and it all gets fucked and you have to do it again

[fierce elm]

So yeah lmao

[lavish quest]

Rather just have someone else deal with that lol

[sharp meteor]

idk about that

[fierce elm]

The profiles were also updated day one for s2

[sharp meteor]

considerin popular pieces get updated real quick

[fierce elm]

Source: I played day one

[sharp meteor]

but yeah in the end w/e works for you

[fierce elm]

We gotta get past this build your own UI shit when it all looks the same anyways

and the base UI is shit lmao

[rancid granite]

i praise it cause i'm still relatively new lol

[sharp meteor]

i mean i just go off what i have done that works

and what most good players did that works