pvp

[green wharf]

im going full mastery unholy yolo

[wheat jay]

oh thats unholy

[green wharf]

its not that different from frost tbh

its just that i can pump more consistently

frost you do nothing without pillar

and by now people learned to play against it

[fierce elm]

2 set yes

4 set unsure

probably

[stuck mulch]

again

someone just leaves cus they dont win

is this how healers play to get a good start?

[green wharf]

my paladin died without using buble

TWICE

LMAO

now it was against me

[true tiger]

do u guys think thane fury gonna have more value with 4 set bonus?

[rancid granite]

ask afro

[grand echo]

I recall there being a way to see the history of past arena matches, from back when i last pvped in SL.. Was that something built in to the game or is it an addon? And if its still around, does it work for SS? Just wanna see my raing +/- from past matches

[fierce elm]

afdon

addon*

its Reflex

[grand echo]

Afro coming in clutch once more

[urban skiff]

using thunderstorm to knock the dk the fuck away during pillar never gets old

I give it another 3 weeks before fdk abandons the big cooldown except in teams that know how to force enemy team to stack inside

[urban skiff]

did it to mage, some people haven't adapted to enh burst yet

[green wharf]

i got another paladin in the next game who didnt bubble either

a monk who didnt cocoon

maybe i dont q this time, people are either sleepy or stupid

so close yet so far away

[urban skiff]

shit I'm just struggling bad right now

I went from breezing into 1800 to fighting for 1700

[fickle forge]

Wait until they bind DA on their bars

[urban skiff]

DA?

[verbal tangle]

Deaths Advance

The movement speed one

[urban skiff]

eeeeeeeh

Thing is, vs dk I've begun running with Unleash Shield as well

pretty neat

[fickle forge]

That still doesn't help you with DA

[urban skiff]

why not?

[fickle forge]

Because they're knock immune?

[urban skiff]

they are?

hang on

[fickle forge]

Yes

[rancid granite]

are you embracing the zug?

[fickle forge]

Lmao

[urban skiff]

lavazug right now

might try a really stupid build

sometimes what works for the good players don't work for average shitters like me

[fickle forge]

Only option you got as a sham is to hit ground+freedom and then yeet away

[urban skiff]

I feel like maybe thunderstorm still worked against that until the hotfix?

[urban skiff]

or BURROW

I'm a fooking badger mate

[rancid granite]

i figure solo shuffle is just leveling up and putting all your stats to STR....... then when you max out STR (2100? 2400?) you begin to add points to int/wis

[fickle forge]

But even then, if you don't line you're back in remorseless quickly

[rancid granite]

no one declined

[green wharf]

almost all games are a healer difference

[green wharf]

except this paladin, he was a dumb dumb

he only focused the healer

[urban skiff]

tbh this has been my experience all day all week

[green wharf]

except the damn last match

fucker

i could go 5/1, but he decided to focus on me instead

[urban skiff]

I could have gotten season first 6-0 in a lobby with arms + fire mage + arcane mage and healer just dropped the ball exactly once

It was a good lobby, would have sucked if one of the mages had been frost

[green wharf]

Frost is always a problem

how so

[fickle forge]

You only really have turbo cleave in that lobby

Enh+mage is def not beating WMX

[rancid granite]

the biggest losses i have are when the team is like 'FOCUS THE ICE MAGE"

insta lose

[green wharf]

says ok
instantly go against the plan

[urban skiff]

we were having a good time actually. The match I lost was turbo

It was a genuinely fun lobby

[fickle forge]

Yeah, but not how it shoulda gone if ya'll played even

[urban skiff]

meh

[fickle forge]

It's a 6-0 for arms lobby

[urban skiff]

Like I said, none were frost

Both arcane and fire was shut down when I chased them, and warrior sat so much cc and roots

can someone give me a hint as to how i make battlegroundenemies show if enemies have specific debuffs?

I want to maximize flameshoc uptime in blitz

and maybe start tracking cc

[fickle forge]

I mean just a skill issue then

Turbo def don't lose to double mage

[urban skiff]

It's always difficult when nobody is organized or playing optimally

it's part of the fun to me

whenever pvp gets too clean and scripted I just nope out.

Is also why I avoid learning what stuff do. Too much knowledge can ruin the feeling of thinking on my feet.

[true tiger]

what is bro doing 😭 😭 😭

[urban skiff]

S T R U G G L I N G

lol

[rancid granite]

PUTTING TOO MUCH STATS INTO INT/WIS

all str

pump the str

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/death-stranding-2-sisyphus-on-the-beach-hideo-kojima-mountain-climb-gif-9060768058445058879

[true tiger]

how do struggle at this rate bro 😭 😭 😭

are u playing weird spec enha again?

[green wharf]

not everyone here are gladiators my man

[rancid granite]

intuition goes a long way

[true tiger]

i know that vro,but zercher here gives guide speeches😭 😭

[urban skiff]

not yet, but about to

[urban skiff]

huh?

[true tiger]

go storm enha

[fickle forge]

Seems a bit skewered, if you knew more you'd be able to think on your feet more

[true tiger]

spam ascend till 1.8k

go next

[urban skiff]

I was going to go stormbringer without dogs and with peestorm

[urban skiff]

know too much and everything becomes predictable

[true tiger]

go mythic storm build

[rancid granite]

i should be #39 mountain thane on murlok now

[fickle forge]

If that was the case, we'd all be rank 1

[urban skiff]

The curse of ADD, my friend.

Learning stuff is sort of painful

applying it is stupidly easy

[rancid granite]

i mean mechanically or so..? but thats the fun of pvp; when you get to that level of being able to read the player is the real skill right

[urban skiff]

I don't want WoW to be ruined same way elden ring has been ruined for me

[urban skiff]

is why I play without DR trackers, cooldown trackers, or even anything that notifies me of cooldowns being used or when they end

If I want to know when paladin bubble ends I have to target and look

[rancid granite]

i mean even then those are reactive vs proactive right

[urban skiff]

I guess

There's not a whole lot of thinking behind what I do

I think a lot at work. I want my free time to be thoughtless

[rancid granite]

the intuition is op; like heroic leaping to the mage before he even starts polymorph cause you know its coming, and /kick

:chef kiss:

[urban skiff]

knowing when a priest is going for a fear because of the way he moves, not because a timer says his fear is ready

[rancid granite]

also same thing as learning an instrument right? learn music theory so you can ignore it and not think of it

lol

yeah

those are the fun bits imo

[urban skiff]

idk, the process is the enjoyable part

Actively learning is speeding through that process

I have the rest of WoW's life to git gut

I can spend another day being mediocre page1 enh

Sometimes I learn stuff to make things I sort of know actually click. Like how peestorm actually works

[rancid granite]

there's a lot to be gained by trial and error that you cant learn from guides too

[urban skiff]

It's a bit like karate. The road to the black belt is the tutorial. Everything that comes after is a mixture of tradition and finding your own niche

I mean guides

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-crossed-arms-pikachu-eyes-closed-pokemon-gif-15194868

[urban skiff]

now this is rare as fuck

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

gz man

healing done from totem dropping is 33m what the heck

3m less healing done than my healer

and I didn't pop defensives or earth ele at all

[rancid granite]

grats on 1800 big guy 🙏

[grand echo]

youre reapmon?

[urban skiff]

yeah

[grand echo]

ah shit

played with you a few hours ago

small world

[urban skiff]

did we fight?

lol nice

[wheat jay]

i await the day zercher plays 3s isntead of skirmishes 😦

glad zercher when?

[urban skiff]

my wife won't play 3s

only 2s and blitz

[green wharf]

you mean my nick?

no

[urban skiff]

Asoth?

[grand echo]

Ye

[urban skiff]

fuck yeah

That was the most fun shuffle I had in ages

no frost mages, no hunters

[grand echo]

Just played with a hunter, when he was on my team he couldnt kite for shit, when i was against him I couldnt stick at all

Zzz

[urban skiff]

Was it Joergn?

[grand echo]

Bíll

[urban skiff]

I feel like it was Joergn

Ah didn't run into that guy

But Joergn, holy shit. Had to tell him to just pick a spot and stand still, he kept unsuccessfully kiting a rogue and warrior sitting on his ass all match. They stuck to him but he was kiting me

When he stopped that and stood still we ripped 6 new assholes in both of them. Unfortunately I was against him final round and he used that super secret technique to win

:S

[grand echo]

oof the duality of ss

[urban skiff]

that guy is probably shuffle gladiator by now

[grand echo]

xd

[urban skiff]

Still, was a good game

[urban matrix]

Im doing BGs and I can´t solo kill a priest, hows that? He does not cast a single heal and his life just stays the same. Are the instant cast heals that powerful? Where is the skill expression of faking a cast to bait my interrupt? They just spam bubble and instant heals so they can run freely? Im new to PvP

[green wharf]

Bro

[fickle forge]

Probably a rotation issue

[green wharf]

is this your first time doing pvp?

it is

then, you cant solo kill a healer in 99% of times

[urban matrix]

I did in Cata as a rogue

[green wharf]

they are a hard nut to crack

[fickle forge]

Was it disc?

[green wharf]

you need two people chaining CCs

at least

[urban skiff]

Disc priests heal by doing damage. He's smashing you with attack smells and healing himself while doing it. Almost no dps can kill a healer 1v1 in battlegrounds

[urban matrix]

Disc I cant manage to take a bit of HP, holly just runs away and fly and then back to full life

[urban matrix]

he´s not casting

[fickle forge]

You can def 1v1 a healer up until like 2700

[urban skiff]

not even penance? smite? That doesn't sound right at all

[fickle forge]

Yeah that's cap if it's disc

Disc only ever casts

[urban skiff]

you don't understand... All healers regardless of rating or exp are really 2950 rating

[urban matrix]

seems like nobody is casting, I know the targets out of my sight can be casting, but even a single healer on BG just do not die until 3ppl came in

[worthy fern]

Should clarify that they are rarely going to just flop in the opener unless it’s like dk plus another melee

[fickle forge]

I mean killing a healer isn't really an issue if you got your rotation down and can chain some CC

[urban skiff]

Probably your addons don't show people casting, somehow

[urban skiff]

Killing a healer isn't an issue if you have verticality and thunderstorm either

1-shotting 2 healers in EotS feels really good

[worthy fern]

I’ve been playing frost dk and just deleting the whole team at once

[urban matrix]

no, I see casts, I interrupt them, all the time, mostly mages and warlocks tho

[verbal tangle]

Or Dragon Charge lmao

[fickle forge]

Again man, you're probably just not doing the right rotation if you can't kill

[urban skiff]

fuck yeah lol. New dragon charge is amazing

I was kind of "meh" about it, but now I'm addicted on my kthuman warrior

haymaker -> dragon charge to kidnap a healer

literally won shuffles because of that

[urban matrix]

What´s the rotation to kill a healer? Im bursting with Charge>Rend>Avatar+Warbreaker>Spear>SD Proc>Bladestorm

[urban skiff]

rend

[fickle forge]

Spear

[urban matrix]

well, I like spear, they cant move

I tried Roar but, whats the point of more bleed if they run away

[grand echo]

if they cant move, they might as well stand still and cast :lul:

[grand echo]

why not have both?

[urban skiff]

I want spear to do a DR-free 6 second fall over flat on face no getting up no iceblock no bubble no nothing if people move out of it with mobility shit that breaks spear

[fickle forge]

I hope no priest is kiting you bro

[urban skiff]

that would be so much fun

[urban skiff]

mate, i feel like you should link your build

just a pic is fine

[urban matrix]

Im playing just for fun, also I wanted the red version of Undermine set

[fickle forge]

I mean yeah this is fine if you just want 1800

[urban matrix]

But I just want to do the right stuff

[urban matrix]

Im talking about the honor set

[fickle forge]

Ah

Yeah then just do whatever bro

Don't care what happens

Play sword and board arms if that's what you feel

[true tiger]

u cant do that since mop bro 💀

[urban matrix]

Yeah, sad

[true tiger]

not rly.it is how it should be

[urban matrix]

I miss when you hit the combo, stun properly, interrupt a good spell and deal actual damage that takes from the enemy's bar.

[true tiger]

imagine ur healer and dps solo kills u

[fickle forge]

I mean you really can solo kill healers dude

A lot of classes can

[true tiger]

decent healer never dies

[fickle forge]

It's a BG healer dude

[urban matrix]

Remember that azerite power that had a passive shield? I stopped playing PVP for fun that time. I would land a full combo, spent all CDs and NO HEALTH WAS TAKEN from the bar

[fickle forge]

They're likely back to ERP'ing in Goldshire after the match ends

[true tiger]

if its random bg ye sure.

[rancid granite]

friend said burstier the meta the less healers there will be

sounded true

imagine the Q times if you can just solo donk a healer np

[urban matrix]

At least I look cool. Feels like a Borderlands character.

[rancid granite]

looks like a borderlands/mad max character lol

oh you said that :b

[true tiger]

healer players also need to feel usefull

[urban matrix]

[elfin surge]

male human warrior players are sus

[rancid granite]

you're sus

[elfin surge]

no i not

[urban matrix]

I change to female often

to wear my magical princess outfit

[fickle forge]

Don't speak tiny guy

[elfin surge]

?????

[urban skiff]

I think my bad dog build broke details

[urban skiff]

ngl, looks cool bro

[fickle forge]

This me IRL

[rancid granite]

this is me irl

[urban skiff]

I've been described as having the body of henry cavill if henry cavill had been famous and in good shape during the sean connery bond era

[fickle forge]

That's oddly specific

Was kinda hard to be famous in the 60s in BB though

[pseudo herald]

did eveything like magnus pinned s2 guide - cant afford season bloody token head in week 2 - any helps?

[rancid granite]

i think everyone got the wrist instead?

i got the trinket as in his guide then decided to just follow murlok

so i ended up getting the wrist this week

[pseudo herald]

yeah, so the math in gearing uide is off?

but that delays 4 set in the long run, doesnt it?

[rancid granite]

guide is off and i dont know

or know if we even running 4set? or fury is

im talking fury anyway idk if arms on murlok is diff

[jovial torrent]

ive only bought conquest helm, bloody gloves and upgraded jewelery so dunno what i should grab next tbh

might just wait till reset

[fierce elm]

conq helm the f u c k

[jovial torrent]

chest oops

dunno why i wrote helm

was thinking about the roll i lost in lfr

[verbal tangle]

Imagine doing lfr

Couldn't be me

[elfin surge]

[verbal tangle]

[spice hornet]

When’s the next Roblox stream @elfin surge

[elfin surge]

[jovial torrent]

the lfr and non elite sets recolours are beter than the elite imo

[spice hornet]

lol yep

[jovial torrent]

they need to fire whoever decided green and purple is now the elite colour and red/black is mythic

[true tiger]

elite colour is cool

wdym

[verbal tangle]

Maybe if you are a night elf knifeear

[wheat jay]

real

[urban skiff]

100%

[urban skiff]

I'm still so exhausted and worn out with red / purple / green / black after legion

Just completely exhausted with everything demon/fel.

absolutely loving DF and TWW because of it, void is still good and the goblins are fun asf

[rancid granite]

the barf green is so damn ugly on like the paladin elite set otherwise all the new stuff rocks

how long til we can pug the mythic raid for this with no issue?

[urban skiff]

right now

you just need random drops from the place on mythic and catalyst it

shoulder back waist from first boss,
legs feet from 2nd,
head, gloves from 3rd,
wrist from 4th

that's 8 pieces, 1 is missing. I assume it's a BoP trash drop

[rancid granite]

i thought M+ was super duper hard though

ilvl gap jumped a little bit but still

[urban skiff]

not m+

S1 is over, drops from m+ will turn into s2 tier now

You need mythic raid

[rancid granite]

yeah mythic nerub-ar palace

what does the catalyst have to do with it tho?

[urban skiff]

you get the drops from first 4 bosses, use catalyst to change to set items. Bam you have transmog

regardless of what the base items looked like

Mythic band turns into mythic band

but always for your class

[rancid granite]

i see, i think

[urban skiff]

this is paladin set appearance, catalyst makes it into your set hat = you get mythic transmog

[rancid granite]

so id find a mythic raid in LFG? sounds exciting, maybe kinda

oh i gotcha

[urban skiff]

first 4 bosses are stupid easy

Even with last season gear, and I was wearing conq only when I did them

so the only thing you don't have easy access to is chest

[rancid granite]

already got helm chest arms legs

cool

ill try it out lol

[urban skiff]

oh yeah, i may have a skewed view on what pve content is easy

[rancid granite]

im a pretty legit tank and im patient with people

[urban skiff]

then you'll have zero issues

I don't remember the raid but I remember reading bosses before the raid released and thought it looked like tanks were going to be bored

And you can get pretty far with haste/vers gear as prot

[rancid granite]

delve gear is op

[urban skiff]

fuck i haven't bothered with delve yet

[quiet dagger]

spell reflect is very satisfying sometimes

had the rebound talent for this match and if i read it right, it basically just does double damage of the reflected spell yea? so I think I 100'd to 0'd this destro lock LOL

[sterile moth]

That’s pretty! Love to see it

[elfin surge]

until you go to reflect cc and some random passive immediately removes your reflect .1 as its activated

[quiet dagger]

hence the "sometimes"

[elfin surge]

bring back the 3 second reflect all spells

[sharp meteor]

If reflect lasted 2-3 seconds It'd be more reliable.

[elfin surge]

bring back overwatch/misshapen mirror

[sharp meteor]

I had a wild imp or velf racial knock it off in 0.02 seconds like alright

it's just a 20% dr in a lot of cases

[elfin surge]

reflecting 1 spell just doesnt work in pvp

[sharp meteor]

glad the dr no longer tied to the reflect itself

[elfin surge]

too much shit removes it instantly

[sharp meteor]

ye esp vs double casties

[elfin surge]

its just a 20% magic wall now

[sharp meteor]

mhmm

[elfin surge]

i like when casters kick into my reflect to get precog too

[sharp meteor]

oh yeah mage insta cs it

[elfin surge]

i have a cancel aura spell reflect specifically for that

[sharp meteor]

like i get it man u play mage

[fickle forge]

When the sham shears your reflect and then press lasso 🙏

[elfin surge]

💀

[sharp meteor]

need mm to rise up and shoot all the mages

[fickle forge]

Wait until he meets a mage that presses DB and knock as well

[elfin surge]

ya nerf mage

[sharp meteor]

if alter wasnt legit bubble into like teams without spam purge

and they had one fewer blink charges

[elfin surge]

war had tww mobility in shadowlands with execute/condemn charge & raging blow charge but was deleted from the game

[sharp meteor]

its actually obnoxious esp whent hey dont overlap with their partners peels

and they always play with feral or rogue

[urban skiff]

bet he was upset

[quiet dagger]

i dont think he registered what happened

at all

[urban skiff]

tbh make it a choice node between spell reflect 2-3 seconds but no DR, or a spell deflect where it's like hunter deflection thing

would be interesting

I'm kind of over everything interesting being relegated to pvp talents

[urban skiff]

this is why you play with a shaman instead of a dk

dispel alter time, freedom totem, static totem, ground the beam

[fierce elm]

oh my god lmao

[urban skiff]

it's just me prepping for the weekend

jumped to 4.8k a few days ago, putting them up at 7.7k so if it goes that high I'll catch sales

1262800g

[rancid granite]

already passed arms rating as fury 💪

[rancid granite]

bloodstones and s2 made me buy another token to sell :(

[urban skiff]

lol

[urban skiff]

what's it like being this good though?

[rancid granite]

i dont know yet cause like i said im putting all my stats into STR

when i hit 2400 ill do 3s and start putting points in int/wis

[urban skiff]

lol

Do you guys take the lead on using cooldowns or do you follow the other guy in shuffle?

[rancid granite]

if you can see the dude is making moves and confident sure help him out

otherwise i guess its up to you to be the leader

i lose 100% of the matches someone is like 'focus the mage' for example

like na im gonna zug the warrior/rogue 100% of the battle

might throw cc on the mage thats it

it's the same rules i'd follow in LoL solo q'ing ranked

[fierce elm]

I do my own thing

Be the playmaker and you will win more games

[urban skiff]

I ALWAYS lose the matches where people insist on rigidly doing one thing all match

If I do the thing we lose because it's a bad call and if I don't do it they're not usually not flexible enough to react to me dropping the dps or healer to 5% 3 times in the course of 8 seconds

Most of my wins are because I mess with the healer long enough for the other dps to just solo the others

enh is fucking weird atm

[rancid granite]

this is the absolute worst lmao

and when your teammate follows up its the best

[urban skiff]

yup

fuck i love it when I drop someone super low, run out of steam, and then I swap to harassing the healer and partner picks up where I left the guy off

that's just chef's kiss

[fierce elm]

Source: mained Support for 10 years in League of Legends

You want to be the playmaker in 99% of games

Because people suck at being the playmaker

[urban skiff]

Idk how to be the playmaker as enh

[fierce elm]

Hex/Static moving/Cap stuns/Damage dealing

the same as warrior really

[urban skiff]

I used to be shotcaller / fight coordinator in some pvp guild's RBG team

as a complete outsider, they'd sometimes wait for me to login instead of pug or have somebody else do it

They said they liked how I talked

[fierce elm]

Add a ping macro to call out targets

[urban skiff]

I have ping on my warrio but currently not shaman

I'm just out of keybinds for that kind of stuff

[fierce elm]

Just combine it with a damage cooldown brother

[urban skiff]

it's not certain i have the right kill target when i use my cooldown

[fierce elm]

Then you can press it again to change target lmao

These sound like WACK excuses

[rancid granite]

@urban skiff

so i can just buy this and catalyst it

and boom its the M+ set color?

[urban skiff]

only if it's mythic

[urban skiff]

shouldn't it have a mythic tag?

[rancid granite]

🤷

unless you can tell by ilvl?

PVE IS SO CONFUSING

[urban skiff]

I think this is what we look at

or t his

[rancid granite]

oh i can see if i click the item first

i see so it has to be mythic track

which explains why people are in lfg for BoE farm in nerub

this is exhausting already

[rancid granite]

but then it also says boss drop

[urban skiff]

One is boss drop the other is world drop

[chilly pivot]

we can get 4 set next week from LFR right?

[rancid granite]

there's no warsculpter boots

[urban skiff]

it's named warsculptor so it's literally catalyst as the only way

[rancid granite]

or do you just get a plate feet drop and catalyst it?

[urban skiff]

the item you linked has the apperance, so you don't need catalyst

the BoE I mean

So go get any boot drop from mythic and use catalyst

iirc s1 gear has no catalyst charge requirements anymore, we can just do it?

imma check on my druid real quick

[rancid granite]

ohhh ok so

any cape, any plate gear (as long as its mythic track from the mythic raid, or boe)

i can catalyst it

ie those feet ^

catalyst

[urban skiff]

confirmed, no charges. Just any s1 gear turns into same track tier set transmog

[rancid granite]

oo

alright

i am up to speed i need a nap after learning all that

tyvm for the info lol

[urban skiff]

My recommendation is to join people who do the first 4 bosses and just trade your way to what you want

or wait an expansion

I swear we skipped a lot of mechanics when I joined the raid team in s1, so s2 gear should just skip a lot of stuff thanks to high damage

[robust hearth]

horde paladins with lion's for shoulders

show sum1 respect for kennie he is the R1 blitzer gots the title for proof as well

[sterile moth]

See I need to do this more. I’m acting too agreeable and trying to hit a bad target sometimes

[jolly narwhal]

are arms chads running colossus or slayer

i see alot of mixed

[sterile moth]

Colossus is normally better unless you’re training a lock or SP

[jolly narwhal]

ty

[sterile moth]

But you have to embrace the bleed lifestyle to get the most out of it

Managing thunderous roar and skullsplitter.

[jolly narwhal]

oh is it SS

fuck

ok

[sterile moth]

It doesn’t HAVE to be, but I’ve found it works best and looking at talents of some of the tops arms warriors they to use it a lot

[elfin surge]

SS = Sweeping Strikes
SKS = SkullSplitter

[jolly narwhal]

oh

yeah SKS is gross but it's better than playing ret rn

[elfin surge]

i miss old skullsplitter

bad for the game but it was fun

[rancid granite]

just be confident 👍

[haughty jewel]

As a warrior I feel like a little piggy

[sterile moth]

Yeah pretty much. They keep telling me to zug zug isn’t of oink oink

When we win….that’ll do pig. That’ll do

[elfin surge]

oink oink little piglet go roll around in the pigpens some more

[haughty jewel]

Yea

Well thats basically what I am

I roll around in the dirty and show my belly

and I hope someone will q with me

[copper fox]

Tell me the joke went over your head without telling me

Imagine playing arms when you can be a disgusting fury gamer

[rancid granite]

imagine being so weak you need 2 hands for 1 sword

[boreal veldt]

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-cat-gif-23815619

[urban skiff]

Am I the only one who sometimes walks into cap totem just to get stunned when it doesn't suit my enemies?

gotta say, i don't HATE the no-dogs build

womp

[fierce elm]

GO BACK TO SOLO SHUFFLE

YOU WILL LEARN TO LOVE IT

[urban skiff]

I think i'll love this build in shuffle

tbh

[wheat jay]

nah nah nah

skirmish is true content

[urban skiff]

I bring so much more damage and people aren't immediately responding defensively to doggos

[urban skiff]

tbh skirmish teaches self sufficiency

is that 50% hp in 1.6 seconds? Yep

[wheat jay]

teaches nothing

[urban skiff]

this is way more my playstyle than the careful damage stacking shit saul does

[urban skiff]

if you can survive in skirmish you can survive anywhere

[wheat jay]

cap

[urban skiff]

@wheat jay fixed for you

[wheat jay]

lmao

[urban skiff]

@fickle forge honey wake up, the new SMF THANE build is out

[wheat jay]

i dont demolish in pvp

boring

[urban skiff]

I don't mind demolish

I only have to pop counterstrike totem mid-cast once to make them give up trying that

also see hunters trying to doubletap me

though it requires throwing that shit across the map

[fickle forge]

Enh sham dead

[urban skiff]

This shit makes me feel alive again

it's like the old build but on steroids

everything is just windfury damage, as Daddy Blizzard intended

[fickle forge]

Why are you stormbringer NOW

And not when it was a thing

[urban skiff]

eh

because now this is controversial

🙂

also loss of ancestral guidance is just killing me

[fierce elm]

Zercher tryna find a fun build so he cant hit 1800 fianlly

and not tilt off the planet

[urban skiff]

with this i can load up big chain heals

a couple more skirmishes and I'm ready to take this thing into rated content for a laugh

character almost bricked, luckily i have 1-2 more shamans ready to go

[fierce elm]

lmao

One shaman in the graveyard time to bring up the backup shaman

[wheat jay]

ok im 960cr

do iwin 4 then int?

to get max cr from shuffle after that?

[fierce elm]

yes

[wheat jay]

i kinda should i think

[fierce elm]

you wanna get a huge win at 1400

ish

[wheat jay]

ye

xD

[fierce elm]

to boost into 1800 immediately

[urban skiff]

😦

[rancid granite]

HE HIT 1800 EARLIER

[fierce elm]

I tihnk if you hit 1500+ you cant do it

oh he did lmao

[rancid granite]

the king

[urban skiff]

i accidentally overshot last season and hit 1950

i feel dirty

[fierce elm]

lmao

Carried by season

[urban skiff]

I had a perfect record of always being 1800 so people would cry and shit themselves when i'm on their team

Entire account is bricked

almost killed monk who used revival after i spread flameshock to bm+afflic hunter + pets

🫠

[fickle forge]

Yeah, max ranging is optimal

[wheat jay]

bro

i almost won

wtf

legit

i tried to lose hard as fuck

and i almost won xD

[urban skiff]

hoooow

[wheat jay]

i dunno

enemies were that bad

bro

i wasn't even pressing my abilities

no big cds pressed

and it was almost a win xD

[sharp meteor]

block zerchers 1600 theorycrafting and half the cord disappears

unreal

[urban skiff]

nobody theorycrafting

I'm practice-crafting

What's the point of being a dumbass if you can't have fun along the way

[fierce elm]

Im just happy the prot dumbasses have stopped writing tbh

[sharp meteor]

wym im the only prot dumbass

[fierce elm]

no no no

the new guys

[urban skiff]

There was 2-4 of them all of a sudden

immediately gone again, guessing they went back to rogue/dh?

[wheat jay]

xD

6-0 angle?

for monk

[sharp meteor]

i like how the dk cord beats people with hammers if they're bad and spread disinfo

[fierce elm]

0-6 to optimize cr gain

[sharp meteor]

skyhold pvp channel is like 3 yappin 1600 players

[wheat jay]

O_O

[fierce elm]

participate then nerd

[wheat jay]

why

[fierce elm]

I go 0-6 until my mmr is 1200

so I can struggle

[wheat jay]

LMAO

big opener i guess

[fickle forge]

Uh yeah, we used to do the same until the channel got nuked

[sharp meteor]

oh right weight lifting causes like

wow players too get angsty

[fickle forge]

Calibri got banned for calling somebody bad at the game

[urban skiff]

imagine caring

at least we have fun

you have your own tryhard discord, remember? 🙂

[sharp meteor]

ya like idont get that

we're all varying degrees of bad at the game

its like yo u didnt stop that cc on healer or u lined healer or u didnt wall/fear when healer forced to sit cc u suck

thats how u learn

[fierce elm]

Is Kennie ever participating

smh

[sharp meteor]

in what

and why cant i use emotes in this cord

hate it here

[fierce elm]

Look

Every pvp discord is the same

its people casually cahtting

then some random 1200 peak dude is asking what is the best spec build and how to play the game

[urban skiff]

only pops in here when he's got big feelings tbh

[fierce elm]

its always the same thing

[sharp meteor]

i mean thats fine

i just dislike the 1600 rodents spamming disinfo on cd

[fierce elm]

I mean what disinfo have you seen

in recent time

[urban skiff]

I speak only my truth!

[sharp meteor]

like 85% of what zercher and aatos say

[fierce elm]

I do see some pretty cooked builds

[urban skiff]

I will not be silenced

[fierce elm]

Zercher is also a Shaman main lmao

and posts 95% shaman stuff

[fickle forge]

Zercher doesn't claim to be right though, he deliberately says he's just memeing around

And Aatos usually just yaps about how to have fun

[urban skiff]

take a wild guess why they got real quiet, by the way

[fierce elm]

lkek

[urban skiff]

much love

I also play my warrior when my shaman is done, and my feral

[robust hearth]

@sharp meteor

[fickle forge]

It was different in the ol' days man, but I also wouldn't see Skyhold as any good PvP source

[wheat jay]

4-2 😦

fuck

[fickle forge]

We are effectively just a chat with a shared interest in PvP

[urban skiff]

rip, welcome to my league

[wheat jay]

fam

its just my alt

relax

xD

[fierce elm]

Waiting for Kennie to help out these poor souls asking for basic info 24/7

[robust hearth]

Kennie doesn't bother with peasants

Thts my task

My job is done

[urban skiff]

seems fun so far

I can love that

[rancid granite]

bro i backup everything i say with 'idk im awful though' or 'this is what i did but im awful though so idk'

[sharp meteor]

wym that's all i do

even if they argue

which they often do for some reason

[robust hearth]

Do not bother yourself with trivial matters, my lord

[fierce elm]

lmao what the fuck is happening

[rancid granite]

im also 2200 💪

[robust hearth]

Address the Grand Marshal as Lord, sir heathen

[fierce elm]

what the fuck am I reading

[rancid granite]

also kennie calling someone a rodent while being a vulpera come on now

[robust hearth]

Forgive his insolence Lord @sharp meteor

For he does not knoweth what godly presence you give off, milord

Forged Marshal @sharp meteor has accomplished where 99% of yall could never achieve. Respect the Lord!

[rancid granite]

afro asked for the prot mains

he got'm

kennie and kennie fanboy here

[urban skiff]

big womp

[robust hearth]

That's squire to you, peasant

[urban skiff]

i got into shuffle and set a new season record

[fierce elm]

I dont mind Kennie

I like Kennie

lmao

[urban skiff]

I like Kennie too

[rancid granite]

vulpera mains are vibes

[urban skiff]

he just needs to learn to read the room

[rancid granite]

kennie and vesa

[fierce elm]

lmao

I miss vesa

[robust hearth]

Nay, Lord Kenneth has urgent matters to attend to

[urban skiff]

I have i no idea who vesa is

I've been told

but don't know her at all

[robust hearth]

"Her"?

[urban skiff]

will people miss me when I go the way of the ndogofury?

[robust hearth]

I don't know about single female that plays warrior except Desiheat and she plays classic

[urban skiff]

My daughter plays warrior

[robust hearth]

Does ur daughter raid/pvp?

[rancid granite]

i know a lot of women who play warrior and pvp

[urban skiff]

I hope not, she doesn't have a pc

[robust hearth]

Name 2

Tht isn't desi

[rancid granite]

Squire giving off the m'lady vibes atm

[urban skiff]

pvp'ers are kind of unhinged about women so I don't blame them for being silent about it

[robust hearth]

Nah I'm being formal never seen any1 from body type 2 play warrior

[rancid granite]

always love the give away with the FEMALE talk lol

[robust hearth]

I know a few great women pvpers

But none play warrior

[urban skiff]

I can name two male pvp'ers

[robust hearth]

Thrs easy thrs like 99.98% of the players

[urban skiff]

Snupy and pikaboo

[robust hearth]

Ok know name 2 of the opposite gender

[urban skiff]

The rest are just annonymous to me

[robust hearth]

Damn he don't know about swifty or bajheera

[sharp meteor]

man thats crazy

[robust hearth]

Or even ASMONGOLD

[rancid granite]

throwback to ndogo

wasn't a vulpera but a gnome

[urban skiff]

I'd have to give a fuck about what other people do first to be able to do that?

[robust hearth]

Is tht me?

[robust hearth]

U just said u could name a few

And i asked u to name 2 lmfao

[urban skiff]

No I said I could name two

male

[robust hearth]

U right it was autos

Aatos*

[urban skiff]

This is getting way too sweaty for me

[rancid granite]

their names were Aatos's friend 1 and Aatos's friend 2

[urban skiff]

Call me up again when we're ready to talk about weird shit

[rancid granite]

there u have it

[robust hearth]

[robust hearth]

Kennie has me on

[urban skiff]

Eh, it's odd behavior to block people and then announce it, repeatedly

Like that's going to make me change a single thing lol

[robust hearth]

I still serve milord

[urban skiff]

So I wouldn't worry about it

[robust hearth]

[urban skiff]

kind of a fucky setup

especially on this bg

hope the warrior has dragon charge

[robust hearth]

Sisijob the the guardian druid

[fierce elm]

giving up on this shit game

[urban skiff]

uh

Oh noooo

[chilly pivot]

can we make weapon from spark and use in pvp?

[fierce elm]

if you make the highest of the highest

yes

[chilly pivot]

i didnt do any pve shit so dont have stuffs for that i guess

just saw a post about we got some spark free

[fierce elm]

yeah if you dont have the highest crests

you cant

ior you can

but it sucks

[chilly pivot]

ok ty ty

[urban skiff]

yes

remember 2h costs extra

like 4 sparks

right?

where has this build been my entire life?

tempest hits for 1.9m

voltaics for 1 m

[fierce elm]

2 sparks

[urban skiff]

this build is perfect for SMF THANE

We only have to count little numbers like 1m and 2m

[urban skiff]

maybe I've been thinking about it from full weapon pov

[fierce elm]

2 2 handers is 4 yeah lmao

[urban skiff]

queue pop after 2 minutes

sounds like I'm about to get stomped

[fickle forge]

I get the vibe this Kaigrok guy knows something we don't

Since Kennie blocked him

[grand echo]

hm.. cant remember if I played with slayer or demolish when i was popping off earlier today ;/

[fickle forge]

How can you not remember the buttons you press

[grand echo]

Ive been testing out both builds all day

now a few hours later I cant remeber when it started going down hill

[fickle forge]

I'd just go slayer, it's infinitely better rn

[grand echo]

seems more consistent at least yeah

I get the idea of the sudden giga burstr with 10 stack demolish

but ive never had any luck, even with spear up and everything

[urban skiff]

I have more success with slayer than thane

[grand echo]

ill just assume slayer beasts demolish then

cant really see, all other warriors ive met are fury

Guess Im not doing myself any favors playing arms tho

[rancid granite]

arms slayer>demo, A tier
fury slayer=thane? A+ tier

@sharp meteor fact check please

[copper fox]

You’re correct

[rancid granite]

(ive been having more luck as thane though tbh)

[copper fox]

Im like 2300 rn in ss every game i play as slayer is smoother

[fickle forge]

Yeah we think it's bugged dude

It's hitting for less than last season

[grand echo]

oh well

damn, feels bad when I finally get into a SS after 30min queue, and someone leaves after 2 rounds

where I FUCK

[urban skiff]

@fickle forge you need to try this build

Dealing more damage than a freecasting spriest

at baby level obv

[robust hearth]

U gonna rage even more bro

[robust hearth]

Ah, and man of culture

[fickle forge]

Nein

Enh sham is dead

[robust hearth]

Smite this heathen

[urban skiff]

Was one win from 1800. Immediately after joining my kid wakes up. Gg have to win 2-3 more times now

[grand echo]

these 30min+ queue times are so lame ;/

[robust hearth]

Just uninstall

Play other games tht queues pop in less than 5 mins

Like marvel rivals

Queues pop less than 30 seconds

[urban skiff]

what happened to the lobbies?

[urban skiff]

it's getting closer now

[grand echo]

get that bread!

[urban skiff]

it's fucking go time

why are these fuckers undercutting so aggressively all of a sudden

put up at full price like everyone and wait your turn

[grand echo]

So close

1800 tonight for sure

Started trying my luck in Blitz as well as SS now, just to get some more activity in. Feels so good just running a train on someone not 100% covered by a healer haha

[urban skiff]

absolutely certain now

[grand echo]

now thats a comp i havent seen today

then i get insta killed because my ret bops our healer in narnia instead xd

[urban skiff]

so many rogues today

[urban skiff]

absolutely certain that I won't be getting it for a while now

end up in EotS where we lost 300 to 1500

[green wharf]

Alliance dont hold monopoly on lions
If they can use wolves, we can use lions too

[green wharf]

Lowkey, is a pain in the ass to play against rogues

cause cringe suddeon demise

[urban skiff]

tbh I'm having a blast now, since i swapped my build

just melt the absolute shit out of them

[green wharf]

There was a game i killed the rogue, but sudden death proc on my ally, so HE GOT THE KILL, cause sudden death was considered first

https://tenor.com/view/angry-black-kid-mad-guy-gif-11227855

[green wharf]

no dogs?

[urban skiff]

nodogs

[grand echo]

i wonder if ill have more fun playing any of my other classes.. At least im building up enough honor to gear my potential next pick

[green wharf]

i was doing something similar

let me see

but i need different gear

cause i went full mastery

so asscendence isnt good

[urban skiff]

my stats right now

[urban skiff]

This is why all my gear will be crafted from now on

I kind of want 5% more crit

what is this haste though

I just realized how splintered elements is completely uncapped

[green wharf]

why?

this is mine

[urban skiff]

so i'm a recraft away from having the stats i want, if I want changes. Talking about conq gear

I'm not sure we want so much haste with this build

enough flameshock spread and you can hit 115% haste

[rancid granite]

fell from grace from 2200 myself cause back to back BM/lock/mage games

that means its time to touch grass and come back tomorrow

[urban skiff]

so close

time to fall

[grand echo]

Are there any site that keep a somewhat up to date spec tier list?

saw icy veins only has one for healers

[urban skiff]

youtube, skillcapped

all tier lists, take them with a grain of salt

[grand echo]

ofc

MM seems interesting, but its the one hunter spec ive never played..

[green wharf]

i dont like current mm that much

need to learn how to play again

sometimes i can knock 4m aimed shot

sometimes they are piss

too random for me

too many modifiers, the skill treee is a bloated mess

look like arms

[urban skiff]

rip

Was a decent lobby for me but the map wasn't great and the people too sweaty

Just way above my league

nice rogue thoughj

[green wharf]

rough

[urban skiff]

ah well, it means I have a 5-1 waiting in the near future

Being this close, means I can get there

[green wharf]

Zech, you play kultiran right

[urban skiff]

and if i can go 5-1 i can 6-0

[green wharf]

do this mog

the old dude from invincible

[urban skiff]

I've only seen season 1

[grand echo]

bm is probably more consistent?

[urban skiff]

I think BM is not in a bad place

The ones I've faced were good at least

[grand echo]

guess ill quickly push my hunter to 80 then

got druid, lock, dk, warr, pala, evoker and sham at 80, in addiotyion to warr.. but none of em seems super appealing ngl

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1jbfr4m/111_pvp_guides_for_every_class_talents_bis_gear/

[green wharf]

yeah, just boring

[fickle forge]

Blizz couldn't stand seeing BM not be S tier

We would have no Dailyshuffle content

[green wharf]

FELLAS

there is an addon, to track the chest drops and the unbound ones?

cause i got two blings to socket itens on a unbound chest, and im very pleased that it drops from it

[green wharf]

apparently not, bummer

@urban skiff my shamy tats

[robust hearth]

When they use wolves for paladins? LIONS are thr symbol of the alliance it's the main face of their faction symbol 🫠

[green wharf]

Their leader was straight up called logosh, the wolf god, and there is quite a few sets with wolf heads for druids, rogues and all

for shamans

paladin is more of an alliance class anyway

[copper fox]

Any nerds know if I need a heraldry to recraft rings if I want to add lens (not from s1 to s2 ring)

[torn sigil]

it was just a bloodstone last season dno about this season

[rancid granite]

nope

no need for new heraldries that'd suck :p

[copper fox]

Sweet

Ty

[robust hearth]

they name dhim lo'gosh in honor for his feirce tenacity and skills on the battlefield, but Lo'gosh was always part of orc culture since the war of the ancients

Varian was a slave gladiator for the Orc Shaman Reghar

and because he displayed such fearsome tenacity they nicknamed him Lo'gosh

Lo'gosh wolf nature god, 1 of the ancients

[green wharf]

exactly, even when wolves are a horde thing

so a lion shoulders for paladin is fine

[sterile moth]

Happy Friday gang! Two hearted IPA beats all warrior specs in a duel I’ll tell ya that

[exotic forge]

You get a catalyst charge from reaching high rating, no?

[green wharf]

two what

[green wharf]

1.6k

[exotic forge]

cool

[exotic forge]

Goldrinn, wolf ancient. The orcs called him "Lo'gosh" which translates from orcish to "Ghost wolf", which is what he normally appears as.

[sterile moth]

@green wharf two hearted is a craft beer, Bells Brewery India Pale Ale

[dark meteor]

s

[green wharf]

Sounds intriguing

[shut tangle]

Hey what is the best comp for us now? Is it still thunder and turbo? Mage war feels very nice as well

[sterile moth]

TSG, WMP and maybe KFC

[robust hearth]

swifty 1h fury build

[green wharf]

no onslaught?

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-ferris-yikes-ferris-buellers-day-off-oops-gif-4950597

if it pumps i guess

[robust hearth]

it pressures warlocks pretty good

[green wharf]

but i assumed you would do odyn fury with 1h

this seems cringe

[robust hearth]

y because its 1h

[exotic forge]

They killed Odyn's with the change to the Avatar talent

So it's not as useful with SMF as it was before

I'd use Onslaught but who knows, let Swifty cook

[urban skiff]

IT'S A PROCESS

[exotic forge]

I'm tryna sleep brother

[urban skiff]

it's another beautiful day, how can you sleep?

[exotic forge]

Must restore energy before grinding SS

44 rounds played, only 8 won

Not a good start

[urban skiff]

fuck

I had a rough start as well

[azure moss]

question, i see some people playing with roar+spear

is this optimal

science based?

[urban skiff]

someone or everyone?

[azure moss]

on murlok

[urban skiff]

If they're in top50 and there's no huge difference between ratings, it means it's working

There's no optimal

If I found the secret sauce to give me a huge advantage, I wouldn't log out in that spec or gear so other people could copy me. 🙂

[exotic forge]

Spear is best used defensively or tactically tbh

[azure moss]

ngl id rather just have either one for less binds

[green wharf]

if you have roar and spear it means you are not running avatar

so i call bs

[boreal veldt]

you can run roar, spear, and ava; you just cant take torment

or no i guess you could, but it'd just be base spear and roar

[green wharf]

you get this deranged build

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-so-uncivilized-attack-of-the-clones-star-wars-gif-19823075

[boreal veldt]

christ

bro is doing the most

just chill and press ms

[green wharf]

do all of then, master none

[rancid granite]

bahjeera been running that but imo avatar over imp roar

hate it

extra buttons 😔

[jovial torrent]

i swear every time i check out baj playing around 2kish he misses like half his spears/ waddles around alot and still somehow wins, i just dont get it

[green wharf]

tbf... i dont think if he hit the spears, it would make much difference

i never saw anyone die on it before

and people can chesse out

[jovial torrent]

true lol, spear was so good in shadowlands but it feels like everyone has 2-3 ways to immune the pullback now

[green wharf]

apparently i could just walk away with death charge

on my dk

[sand sundial]

He has fundementals

You will also see him insta intervene traps

[fickle forge]

Baj is fundamentally good

Spear is also wack af rn

[green wharf]

lock is fun in bgs, think im going to push blitz with him

some nsty chaos bolts

[fickle forge]

Dogcookie had you outmatched bro

[copper fox]

Crushed by the dog cookie tbh

[green wharf]

well i got more kills and points

[fickle forge]

Looks to me his team just held him back

Was it just healer vs no healer team?

[green wharf]

prob a team with honor gear vs team with no gear

i was sending people to the shadow realm with chaos bolt

heal what