pvp

[urban skiff]

Did anyone notice that heroic leap isn't working like normal?

lost vertical movement

[green wharf]

every new patch that shit bugs out

is like a rule

https://murlok.io/warrior/fury/solo

just copy what the guys did, its pretty much the same

[true tiger]

not for enha,enha is warrior which imbues weps with elements,not totemic vibe

[urban skiff]

no?

literally what

Enhancement has always been totems

fucking windfury totem was enh exclusive forever

[balmy steppe]

ah not heard of this website. Thanks

[green wharf]

the orc shamans in the wc3 never used totens

it was always troll and tauren gimmik

:/

[true tiger]

lorewise mate

i dont need ingame abilities😭 😭

[urban skiff]

20 years of wow

that's fucking established lore at this point

🙂

[fierce elm]

lmao

the 20 years dont count smh

[true tiger]

spiritual warrior who imbues weapons with elements to do massive amount of damage

😭 😭 😭

dats enhas description

not ,,imbues totems with elements to do massive damage,,

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-fortnite-massive-low-taper-gif-3016367312411585237

[fierce elm]

kek

Go ask the shaman discord nerd

Besides, placing a totem and forgetting about it is pretty simple

[true tiger]

wish they havenot killed stormbringer enhas

[urban skiff]

totem is the entire class identity, across all specs

[green wharf]

heh, is their gimmick

remove it and it becomes better

[true tiger]

remove totemic hero talent from enhas

https://tenor.com/view/sticker-yung-joc-crying-meme-man-crying-meme-thebeyonderrrr-gif-828328460466032722

[urban skiff]

why

it's fun and works

or did

they broke it

what is this garbage season start?

every match has hunters and frostmages and frostdks and spriests

where are all the ele shamans and demon hunters and the arcane mages?

We have 39 specs in WoW and I'm seeing only like 5

[fierce elm]

bruh lmao

what are you doing

[urban skiff]

I have no idea

i used to be good at fury and now I'm just fumbling

last match we won because I literally kidnapped the healer while the hunter soloed the frostmage

haymaker -> dragon charge -> full fear -> full stun -> piercing howl

[fierce elm]

I should do some solo shuffle

[urban skiff]

then when he finally made it back he went up the stairs and i did another dragon charge + stormbolted him

[fierce elm]

Still sitting at 1860 after not playing since day 1 lmao

[urban skiff]

Man I want to play my shaman but it's just so unfun right now

[fierce elm]

gotta say though

I am built diff in blitz

[fierce elm]

holy fuck lmao

[urban skiff]

I had 1700+ in blitz but I keep tanking

I went from 2800 MMR to now 1700

[fierce elm]

christ dude

[thick reef]

brathaaaaaaa same

[fierce elm]

your start is wack

lmao

[urban skiff]

It's the same every season

[fierce elm]

what the hell

Are you COPYING ME

[thick reef]

i just might be 😉

[fierce elm]

ever thought of just winning

thats what I do

I just think about winning

[true tiger]

why supatease looking in my soul during streams

his camera placement is so weird

https://tenor.com/view/look-into-my-eyes-jim-caddick-caddy-caddicarus-deep-stare-gif-26315005

[true tiger]

lock in bratha

[urban skiff]

what is that? Good or bad?

[true tiger]

meaning u need to try harder

[urban skiff]

eh, can only try so hard

[true tiger]

think about winning and not only killing players

[urban skiff]

in an EOTS they somehow managed to disrupt our first FRR cap AND run with flag

[true tiger]

in my case if i think about just wiping their team doing most dmg we lose

if i play objectives we usually win

[urban skiff]

So I go alone and knockback the fc into capping, then I grab the flag AND tag BET

and we still lost despite us going from 1 base no flag to 2 base + flag

I can only carry so hard

[urban skiff]

tbh I think my mistake is that I play objectives

I'm so used to carrying as feral or prot war

[fierce elm]

I always fight center or base

never carry flags thats for nerds

I am out here SLAMMING

[urban skiff]

note to self, when rage quitting make sure to do it before the last round

:/

[fierce elm]

oh my god

rip MMR

[urban skiff]

my mmr is already so low

[true tiger]

bro burried mmr

[urban skiff]

i started out at 1600 MMR and it was smooth sailing until this match

[true tiger]

zamn

[jovial torrent]

i was on a good run then lost last 2 games

[urban skiff]

Ah well, i have an extra shaman and I'm about to make a third

Roll those dice enough and eventually I'm going to hit a positive streak on something

[fierce elm]

lmao

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/aff-nao-ne-por-favor-nao-de-novo-nao-aguento-gif-16455799246285722417

keep the warrior games up you're living the 50/50 dream atm

good start

[jovial torrent]

just gotta keep playing, last season i was stuck for a while then streaked from like 1800 to 2400

already at 2700 mmr in blitz this season

[fierce elm]

stop playing, lawyer up, leave wife, delete facebook

[rancid granite]

find magic crystals, make time machine, be 19 again

can't roll my eyes hard enough at these r1 pvp nerds being ~20 it's not fair

🧓

[urban skiff]

The warrior games are so toxic

every game has a hunter and frost mage and fdk at the very least

[jovial torrent]

i just want it to be next week already, i really dont fancy enchanting green weps, need to recraft my accesories also

[urban skiff]

I can't help but feel my shaman problem is that disc is so overtuned

Well that and the lack of defensives that matter

[jovial torrent]

what makes sham so bad against priest, isnt that like enhance dream to have stuff to purge

[urban skiff]

I guess it's the fact they unddo all my damage

and they dispel my earth shield

they can help kill totems

[rancid granite]

just win anyway :)

let it fuel your rage

[urban skiff]

the new arena is at least good for shaman

whyyyyyyy

[rancid granite]

too much thought of team comp, mmr, cr

you forgot what it was like to embrace the zug

it seems

also i just learned

stacks duration when used same time

[fierce elm]

yes lmao

Zercher complaining about decent matchups is pretty funny

[urban skiff]

this is enh

nothing decent about it

[fierce elm]

yeah

lmao

DOOMPOSTING

[urban skiff]

doing better with my grounding totem macro

[jovial torrent]

ud probs get more value out of working on positioning and using enhances knockbacks/drags ect

everyone below 2k just follows you around pillars to die

[rancid granite]

or they try to lure you and die

[jovial torrent]

its crazy how hard somtimes your team lines you when u play healer in solo shuffle

[urban skiff]

i always win or lose when they focus me

can't do shit when they focus a team mate who's shite

best i can do

took losing with the monk standing in the middle to realize he was the weak link, that's a skill issue on my part

And who decides the best position is in the middle with a fmage on one pillar and demo on the other

fun times ahead

I should just go work out and eat something

maybe take my pills

[urban skiff]

the new arena is fucking amazing for enh shaman knockbacks

even get huge value out of Unleash Shield

[jovial torrent]

bruh, lock in my bg just did 20% more dps than everyone

[fierce elm]

just warlock stuff lmao

[jovial torrent]

i am kind of gimping myself to be fair, 0 epics, 0 2 set no enchants

but cba to queue arms or somthing to farm conquest

[urban skiff]

got no 2set right now

might be an issue

might also be because people playing at this hour is usually the unemployed people who do nothing but play

perpetual meta slaves

[rancid granite]

in queue right now

[urban skiff]

shhh

I'm sick

[fierce elm]

LMAO

I haven't seen Zercher like this before

[rancid granite]

i actually meant i myself am in queue too lmao

[fierce elm]

neerds

part of me gets queue anxiety

then I queue and queue for hours

part of me also doesn't want to queue rn

[rancid granite]

it's early and still dark here

the q's and hype is definitely influenced by caffeine

[jovial torrent]

yeh i defo struggle to start queueing somtimes, but once ive started il then go till im starving or tired

[fierce elm]

its rough out here

[urban skiff]

lol

[jovial torrent]

just a shame the queue is so long

[urban skiff]

womp womp

[fierce elm]

bro AUG lmao

[urban skiff]

warlock scales well with aug

[wheat jay]

Where is your dmg?

[urban skiff]

nill

I'm the shaman

fmage + aug + pres is just toxic

as everything else in that lobby

if i can stay alive long enough to build everything I can wipe out a full group in a couple of globals

so I guess it's sort of balanced?

If it had been another map I would have won more

Or just give me ancestral guidance back 😦

I wonder if full mastery is secret tech

[fierce elm]

this is MMR hell now

Look at sub trinket

lmao

[urban skiff]

yep

my MMR is = CR

;/

was one global from winning the match the rdru was throwing/dc'd from

wonder why he left

[fickle forge]

Superior class

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897055819475091456/1348411260634665051/image.png?ex=67d3fa98&is=67d2a918&hm=a9044310e17db4065ca12bbdc3a0ecdd3a3832c195fbde18c3e99252f43d064a&

[grand echo]

Hey, trying to figure out what to craft (Im arms).. Think ive landed on 2x ring + neck. In terms of embellishments, what should I go for, seeing I dont have any sockets atm, Elemental Focusing lens will be useless for a while.. Any other good options I should go for until I get sockets?

[fierce elm]

How much gold do you have

[grand echo]

Couple hundred k

[fierce elm]

Yeah, you need 5k honor to get a socket in that case

can buy bloodstones on AH for one socket

Either way embellishment dont make a huge difference

so I would just craft Lens regardless and just wait for socket

[grand echo]

Fair, that was the plan. Just wanted to make sure.. thanks!

[fierce elm]

yeah you are at most missing out on like 1-3% damage

which isnt big big

[grand echo]

Going from purely being a m+ pusher over to pvp.. Im sure the 1-3% wont even be noticable for a gooood while haha

[fierce elm]

it really isnt lmao

I havent won a game because I had Lens so far

[urban skiff]

focusing lens doesn't have to be useless if you have 5k honor and some gold.

[grand echo]

Ofc, but until I get my first socket

Had to buy fresh honor gear, so the road to 5k for socket took a bit longer than excepted

[jovial torrent]

getting healer diffed so hard this morning

[grand echo]

Btw, Ive seen some people say that Ill get a wep for free at some point.. Can someone explain that.. is it 1600 rating?

[fierce elm]

Next week

its an achievement for getting 2500 conquest

[grand echo]

Ahh okay, gotcha

[jovial torrent]

wild what one healer being 160m healing behind can do

[sterile moth]

Morning warrior fam! Quick question…can warriors beat augmentation evokers in a duel??

[exotic forge]

Next question please

[grand echo]

might be a dumb question, but I can spend conquest before then, right?

[true tiger]

war can beat noone 1v1

shit class

[jovial torrent]

yeh, its just conquest earned not held

[grand echo]

tyty

[jovial torrent]

guna be a good week next week

[urban skiff]

a bit funny to win because i'm spamming purge

[sterile moth]

Can warrior beat your dad in a duel??

[boreal veldt]

i wonder what the vegas odds on it being bugged again are

[sand sundial]

Remember when the mount track was bugged for months?

[boreal veldt]

Yeah, only a couple months is pretty quick turn around for blizz

[urban skiff]

this is actual hell

fdk who decides the best place to fight is right in the middle with their disc just freecasting

[jovial torrent]

i cannot win a damn bg for the life of me today

top dmg, cap bases, doesnt matter every where else on the map loses

[rancid granite]

the 1600 rating is for a catalyst charge too

[green wharf]

i would not recommend qing shuffle atm, unless you are playing the cancer classes

[boreal veldt]

did disc really get nerfed cause i really don't feel it

[urban skiff]

tiny changes that don't mean anything

[fierce elm]

Zercher is DOOMING rn

[boreal veldt]

i'm here for it

let it out brotha

tell us your qualms

[urban skiff]

they broke my spec

and we're losing AB because they're piling into farm Right after it's captured by themn

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

AND LOSING

it's one thing if they would pile in and win but getting wiped out there? eugh

[sand sundial]

5/1 heal diff too

[urban skiff]

that don't help much

druid had the win with me

I also beat him by spamming dispels after he popped tree

tbh we lost that AB because I didn't get to bs fast enough to delay a cap

a brother

so much disc, so much fmage

[rancid granite]

why would you not recommend someone playing the game they're subbed to

i, on the other hand, recommend that if you enjoy pvp, queue solo shuffle all you want :)

[boreal veldt]

WHY ARE YOU JUNING MAGE IN MARCH?

[rancid granite]

^ me 5 matches in on my 3rd cup of coffee

[boreal veldt]

[green wharf]

you speak like shuffle is the only way to play the game you are subbed to

[rancid granite]

its one of the core modes of pvp and a lot of players are pvpers idk

recommending someone to not do something is just dooming :D

[boreal veldt]

love the new pfp syeg

[boreal veldt]

lmfao, i guess juning mage was the move

[urban skiff]

i will forever treasure this retri

wish I could remember his name, our time was brief but fruitful

9 moons and his blood shall be doubled

idk, i never get any praise

[green wharf]

It might just be that he can wait for another wave of hotfixes of buff/nerfs to get a better experience, no reason to throw punches in a knife point, sinc ein shuffle he will face a lot of counters and meta, he might get more fun doing other form of pvp

[green wharf]

[green wharf]

You still lost mmv

[urban skiff]

i know

[rancid granite]

isnt he playing A tier classes? anyway what's there to wait for? wait in hopes they'll buff his class and play it only when its S++ and broken? solo shuffle is solo shuffle; gonna be a bit of randomness but its always the same

so if you wanna solo Q rated; Q up ss

[green wharf]

If you wanna yea, do it

[rancid granite]

the fun is always there waiting

[green wharf]

i would not recommend it though

[rancid granite]

for no real reason other than dooming

[green wharf]

If you say so

[rancid granite]

pvp channel here

i, as a df season 1, season 4, tww s1, s2 duelist, #37 arms week 1 tww s2, recommend all modes of pvp if you enjoy pvping

thru all of that, buffs, nerfs, ss has always been the exact same so there is no better or worse time for it

the only inherent 'good' or 'bad' in it would be the Q times i guess

[green wharf]

either way, dont recommend doing shufle, do blitz, x2 or x3

[fierce elm]

lmao

sounds like you are being a bit of a pussy tbh

[rancid granite]

yeah thats the point of diff modes

[fierce elm]

soyboy behavior

[rancid granite]

solo q rated - shuffle
solo q bg's - blitz
2s/3s - if you want rated and have friends

[green wharf]

ok mr baldo

[urban skiff]

The thing I'm not getting in blitz

is that 90% of the time, they can do fine with 1 healer and we lose with 2 healers at whatever objective we're at

[jovial torrent]

is there a way to gather sparks in undermine, normally i just grab the globs of wax but dunno if theres any in this zone

[rancid granite]

some in trash cans but they're rather rare; do the weeklies in west tunnel (there's 4), then do wq's, and kill rares

[fierce elm]

PVP

[jovial torrent]

problem with that is i have to join a group, which ends my bg queue

[fierce elm]

World PvP baby

Then wait with your BG queue

or just dont do the spark quest

You can do what, 6 random world quests for the bloody tokens

unless you have 0 on the cap

[rancid granite]

i haven't found any groups pvping when i look

[fierce elm]

I find it everytime

Personally I am not doing any bloody tokens until next week

to do the sparks quest + a world quest

sionce I am not spending bloody tokens this week anyways

[rancid granite]

those 4 weeklies take like 5min and give you capped bloody tokens / half of your sparks

SLAM central

[wheat jay]

Why does Segfryed sound like he's been neutered?

Holy fuck

Q shuffle, go fuck shit up, demolish people, enjoy it, ggs

Its pixels

[earnest thorn]

anyone good w macros?
im using this bladestorm/ravager macro, and it works as slayer, or arms, but for some reason if youre thane with bladestorm, it wont cast bladestorm
#showtooltip
/cast [known:228920,@player] Ravager; Bladestorm

[fierce elm]

why do you have a ravager macro though

is my biggest question

[earnest thorn]

pve

[fierce elm]

oh

[wheat jay]

World quests, rares, pvp chests that spawn every 10-15min

[wheat jay]

Blizz issue afaik

They fucked something up with macros

[earnest thorn]

sumbitch

[wheat jay]

I have issues with bs/ravager on arms, fury, and prot, most of my survi hunter macros are broken too

[earnest thorn]

theres probably separate spell ID for arms and fury bladestorms, since theyre different durations and fury hits with offhand etc

idk bc it works for fury slayer but not thane

[rancid granite]

What is a mountain thane?

Thane is an honorary title bestowed upon clan leaders, nobility, or royalty in dwarvish and vrykul societies. In Khaz Modan, the Mountain Kings, or 'Thanes' as they are known, are the mightiest dwarven warriors under the mountain.

💪

[urban skiff]

you can skip ravager entirely and just bladestorm @player

[fickle forge]

I get why fury got mountain thane, but it lowkey feels like an arms tree

But so does colossus

[rancid granite]

i didnt know it was in part vrykul too that was the cool part to me

but yeah

idk its all in the thunderclap

[fickle forge]

Clap and Avatar has always been arms/prot oriented

[rancid granite]

if we keep up this talk we're gonna get another nerf

[fickle forge]

I'm already expecting it

[fierce elm]

iM aLrEadY eXpEcTiNg It

[fickle forge]

It's really funny how at the start of every season, arms is the most popular warr spec, but then slowly it dwindles towards fury once it's been established it's better

Almost like arms is what PvP'ers wanna play

Blizzard just refuses it

[fierce elm]

Fury took over instantly last season

wdym

then it became arms

then abck to fury

[fickle forge]

No it didn't

[fierce elm]

yes it did

[earnest thorn]

Oh it will cast ravager if talented into it?

[sand sundial]

Yes it did

[fickle forge]

Fury was hot from the get go because it was declared omega busted in the beta

[fierce elm]

becuase of Furys absurd damage the first one or two weeks lmao

yeah

So it did

[sand sundial]

Fury was white hot everywhere

[fickle forge]

Fury was playing S2 on release

[fierce elm]

So literally already proven wrong

smh

[fickle forge]

Literally not the case bro

Go back to DF as well

[fierce elm]

these warrior mains cant remember history

I mean I only played s3 and s4 lmao

[fickle forge]

People pick arms, until suddenly the fury meta is established

[fierce elm]

s4 was that

s3 I barely played

[sand sundial]

I was there 500 years ago

[fierce elm]

So every season but not last season

[fickle forge]

The release season is different, because people have already spent months on the beta

[fierce elm]

Also if my MEMORY serves me correct

this wasnt the case for all of SL

[fickle forge]

What

Are you talking about

Arms for half of SL, and then a few weeks of S3 post-nerf, until suddenly fury came outta nowhere

[fierce elm]

Yeah so it wasnt the case entirely

so you are just WRONG

what are these warrior mains on brother

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-meme-radar-gif-26497624

[fierce elm]

these arms users are coping so hard

its wack

[fickle forge]

Arms i the PvP spec, let the fury boys slay dragons

[fierce elm]

I miss thunder clap execute

[sand sundial]

Arms is a coping man's spec

[fickle forge]

In the same fashion that disc is the PvP spec

[fierce elm]

get with the times boomer

[fickle forge]

Let the holy priests heal their boyfriends in raids

[urban skiff]

it should

[urban skiff]

I don't think my mediocre skill can take another nerf

[fierce elm]

lmao

Never expected Zercher to be down bad

[urban skiff]

it's because arms is easier

[urban skiff]

never had this bad a season start

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-plan-coping-kid-the-kid-is-coping-gif-26280717

[fierce elm]

its time to play fury later today

[urban skiff]

I'm proud of being a forever 1800 player, but that's by choice. Not being able to hit 1800 is completely new for me

[fierce elm]

TSG thane should go wild

[sand sundial]

In the old days dual wield was wack as shit, and big slow weapons tore through enemies

[urban skiff]

TSG with thane prot

[fickle forge]

Yeah no thanks

[urban skiff]

The T is for toxic

[fierce elm]

Karg wont allow that

he is a lil bitch

[urban skiff]

Toxic Shitheads Gargleballs

Facts, that's what TSG stands for

[sand sundial]

I actually don't know why it's called TSG

[fierce elm]

who knows

probably some old team name

or something stupid like that

Yeah we arent even playing TSG

[sand sundial]

Oh yeah those

[fierce elm]

one of them idk

nerd shit

[urban skiff]

Is sub king or not king this season?

[fickle forge]

TSG really is a gauntlet though

[fierce elm]

its doing some disgusting things

[fickle forge]

The opener is insane to live through

[fierce elm]

Rogue probably has 3 really good specs

which is wild lmao

[fickle forge]

So as per usual then

[fierce elm]

yeah point me to where sub was good last season

[fickle forge]

As per usual then 😴

[sand sundial]

Shadowplay gotta be fav name

[fierce elm]

African Turtle Cleave

or Hitler Cleave was also pretty funny

[fickle forge]

Stalin Cleave rivals it

[sterile moth]

What’s hitler cleave?

[fickle forge]

Double UDK

[sterile moth]

African turtle cleave is prot warrior hunter which is hilarious

Mean cleave, lumberjack cleave…all good things

[fickle forge]

Mongolian Earthworm Cleave

[elfin surge]

mud cleave

[fickle forge]

That's gotta be 3 necro arms warrs

[boreal veldt]

[grand echo]

God damn SS que times are horrible

[fierce elm]

3 unemployed Kyles

[fickle forge]

Kyle is employed though

[fierce elm]

lies

I dont trust it

[fickle forge]

Bro goes to work while his dumbass rivals grind WoW for 10 hours without him

Still comes home and runs them over 2 weeks before season end

[chilly pivot]

bro we only get 625 conq 😮 omg

was it that low last season?

[fierce elm]

oh my god did we

like every other season

oh my god no way

[rancid granite]

😮

[boreal veldt]

😮

[sterile moth]

[fierce elm]

am I tryhard enough to recraft my rings+neck

to mastery+vers

to play fury lmao

its like 9k mastery so its a lot

[sterile moth]

I did one haste vers and one mastery vers ring. Stupid question but can you craft both identical stats

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/energy-kyle-monster-drink-soda-gif-14275608

[boreal veldt]

ye

[boreal veldt]

cant you just keep the haste and do powerful enrage instead or is it bad

[fierce elm]

I could

sitting at like 27% master

24% haste

lmao

[boreal veldt]

ok hear me out

[fierce elm]

lmao wtf

[boreal veldt]

LMAO

[fierce elm]

tryna think about what talents to drop

Gotta be real

cshb feels ass

[rancid granite]

the low haste

[rancid granite]

bless getting in reps and shit irl inbetween his skills

[fierce elm]

uh apparently its 32% haste LMAO

[boreal veldt]

can usually finish a full set in the time it takes demolish to finish

[rancid granite]

lmao

[quiet dagger]

[fierce elm]

maybe I should grab mastery on arms too

[rancid granite]

~20% haste was fine

can't see such a difference in adding allllll that extra haste

[fierce elm]

I mean I am at 32% kek

I sure as fuck hope I dont lose sockets

by rrecrafting though

Its looking like it's not fucking it up

[rancid granite]

s2->s2 will be fine

[fickle forge]

Need more mast as fury

[fierce elm]

Woiah no way

[cold dome]

my one buddy is cyber security works from home is on wow 12 hours well on work on his laptop

[quiet dagger]

quick suggestion needed cause i absolutely did not follow the optimal gear route
do I buy Token Cloak now or save for Token Helm next week
(I bought token bracers/belt already)

[fierce elm]

gonna do one at a time

oh bloody token

Personally I wouldnt get BT cloak right now

but thats me

[rancid granite]

save for next week

imo

[quiet dagger]

so save for helm then

i initially was gonna save for legs ngl

but then i saw helm had haste/vers too

[fierce elm]

Do I care if I have 19% haste on arms

compared to 25% lmao

[rancid granite]

20-25% def seems like the sweet spot

[boreal veldt]

ʸᵒᵘ ˢʰᵒᵘˡᵈ ᵇᵘᶦˡᵈ ᶜʳᶦᵗ

[fierce elm]

no

just recrafting neck then

gained 4k extra mastery at least

[rancid granite]

think i see magnusz going hella haste on arms but we've learned he's not good at math soooooo

[fierce elm]

yeah but I dont wanna sit 30% haste tbh

[boreal veldt]

has anyone checked in on mags

he's 0/2 on guides this expac

[fierce elm]

a lil better for fury at least

[rancid granite]

i googled wow warrior pvpers and mud came up a lot lmao

dude has a lot of fanboys

[fickle forge]

Yes

Go for 30%

[elfin surge]

[fierce elm]

no

[fickle forge]

Did you watch his incredible 32.5k Execute??

[rancid granite]

maybe if there was a youtube short of it but i did not see it

but i am 100% sure it exists

[spice hornet]

Is your computer stuck in 2021?

Mud went to play roblox and dark and darker and hasn’t been seen since they nerfed warbringer damage

[rancid granite]

lmao yeah first few google results were like 2021

[inner sigil]

is arms still A tier

or is it fallen again

[fierce elm]

does it matter

[elfin surge]

arms is mid

[boreal veldt]

arms is handsome

[inner sigil]

to me it does

[fierce elm]

why

[inner sigil]

it js does

si arms A tier still yes or no

[fierce elm]

why

[inner sigil]

cs

[fierce elm]

Are you not gonna play it if it isnt A-tier

[inner sigil]

i still will

but

i wanna know

if my baby boy arms is mid

[fierce elm]

: )

[inner sigil]

again

so...

ye or nah

[exotic forge]

Yes, next question

[elfin surge]

its not great no

[inner sigil]

what would you rank it

[elfin surge]

I havent played enough this season to rank it. From what i've gathered from others is that its not great but better than it was last season.

[rancid granite]

arms is A fury is A+

next question

[inner sigil]

so more ppl are js playing fury?

i assume..

in the murlok IO

[elfin surge]

yeah fury is better

[rancid granite]

skillcapped gods have spoken 2 days ago

[inner sigil]

me personally id put unholy higher than frost atm

frost is kinda underwhelming

gets countered by ALLOT of stuff

[south hemlock]

Frost is alright in bgs

But the nerf hurt it a lot

[inner sigil]

ret A+?

what changed abt ret

from being b-

[south hemlock]

Probably that new cleave talent

[rancid granite]

lil dmg buffs

[lavish quest]

I have been feeling fury crankin

[spice hornet]

I’ve played a lot this ssn. Fury seems slightly better. Arms is better than it was last season. Problem is, even if they make it good, it just doesn’t feel good to play, it feels clunky to me., and has felt that way since DF.

[inner sigil]

make arms great again 😦

i mean im still hitting 3.0M mortal strikes

it feels good

[fierce elm]

Ret a+ what the fuck am I reading lmao

[inner sigil]

yeah exactly

i would not have ret up there

nor surv hunter

or enh

enh is literally unplayable

its burst went from one of the best to one of the most underwhelming

id put enh b- surv B frost B sub rogue A now arms A fury A+ ret b+ outlaw A

the S tier seems accurate

[rancid granite]

i agree fully with this

[lavish quest]

Ret op

[inner sigil]

ret buns

only the best in wpvp/duels lol

[rancid granite]

i was gonna play my ret again but saw no one is going templar

and ret without the templar burst is not fun

[inner sigil]

yeah temp is ass

herald got buffed

u can hit 3.5M hammer of wraths

atm

[rancid granite]

herald with its shiny ray of light 👎 boring

oh thats interesting

[inner sigil]

yuh

Fury executes are hitting hard as shit atm

[spice hornet]

Yeah I been queueing rdruid ret war, real fun playing with the worst healer and ret feels like it does non existent damage

Somehow disc priest jungles are losing to that

[inner sigil]

it doesnt have allot of rpessure

pressure

for sure

no MS

[spice hornet]

It’s just like pad damage

And all of the talents are buggy

We’re like 2100ish mmr in 3s and I’m just sitting there wondering why I’m playing this sh when I could be queueing fury/mage or fury/dh/rsham

[ancient sonnet]

Is Fury/DH a thing?

[ebon steeple]

KFC feels very nice atm

[spice hornet]

Looked good with Lontar healing it beating whazz playing outlaw/aff/disc

[ancient sonnet]

Hmm may have to give that a shot at some point. DH has been pretty fun this season

[fierce elm]

I mean DH is PUMPING

[fierce elm]

ret does no damage

so makes sense

they butchered my spec

[ancient sonnet]

Yea Hammer of Light was the only thing fun about current ret imo and sounds like they jacked that up

[wheat jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/905959827891712050/1349833529655300197/image.png?ex=67d489f0&is=67d33870&hm=62839c138a899c60ee070628d523c9b2215418526176ad23e1216e98d90c27d4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=238&height=194

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duality of mm players xD

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm @rancid granite back to climbin'

[rancid granite]

as a Chad warrior???

[urban skiff]

nah

enh

can't stop now

[rancid granite]

enh can be Chad too as long as the will to climb and conquer is there

[urban skiff]

Enh

Right now I'm struggling with how many classes are giving me a hard time

have to be aggressively aware of enemy castbars in gladius whenever facing a mage

[rancid granite]

that's what's making me postpone my rogue

if I can't watch cast bars and cool downs I have no business in rogue

so warrior will help me practice that lol

[urban skiff]

I mean I still play without anything that alerts me to enemies using cooldowns, (offensive, defensive, anything really)

And nothing that tells me when they end

also no DR tracker

[rancid granite]

Dr tracker rocks

[urban skiff]

I have omnithing for tracking kicks but I never ever look at it before casting

[faint sapphire]

hpriest now better then disc?

[rancid granite]

skillcapped basic addon is doing me well for the time being but ya

[urban skiff]

actually I think there's one for cooldowns as well but i also don't look at that

[urban skiff]

no

[rancid granite]

I mean imo best way to learn is starting without it anyway

[urban skiff]

Just a case of "when a class has two good specs, the only ones playing the worse ones are super fans who will always make it work"

[rancid granite]

get a feelin for how things go

[faint sapphire]

ye but high mmr... actualy just proves disc is op

[fierce elm]

no

[urban skiff]

holy is good in settings where it can nuke indiscriminately, so mostly in 2s

It needs a constant stream of damage to reset something that has a high impact. Can't remember what

[fierce elm]

it isnt even good in 2s thats the funny part

[urban skiff]

If it has to spam heals then it can't do that thing

[urban skiff]

yeah because damage is so high right now

It definitely feels like they didn't give us enough stamina to go with the current scaling

[faint sapphire]

Idk why arms dmg feels all the same though they hard buffed buttons

they better have nerfed all the crit damage mods by 50-66% but left mortal untouched(I mean recent nerf)

[boreal veldt]

[faint sapphire]

600k dot tick

non crit

[fierce elm]

no way a 600k dot tick

[grand echo]

is it like a rating treshhold where ss queues are not 20min+?

[fierce elm]

no

[grand echo]

damn

[fierce elm]

It has like a dip somewhere

where queues are fast-ish

[faint sapphire]

here is more

[fierce elm]

then it goes to 20+ minutes again

[grand echo]

F

[fierce elm]

I know lmao

[grand echo]

Kinda sad, being the start of a season and all

[fierce elm]

I mean people don't want to heal SS

[grand echo]

s2 kinda dead for most people tho I suppose

[fierce elm]

and I totally get it

[grand echo]

fair

[fierce elm]

Blitz is just easier and more fun

[faint sapphire]

more ppl would've play if it wasnt ww mm every arena

[fierce elm]

no they wouldnt

lmao

Its all about healer participation

and that is never going to be high aslong as they are being MMR punished

[rancid granite]

the ToXiCiTy excuse is whatever but the mmr thing is 😬

[urban skiff]

rate this lobby

is it good or bad

[grand echo]

didnt even know solo queue BG was a thing

[fierce elm]

the MMR thing is the biggest thing

[rancid granite]

its good

cause youre on enh buddy

💪

[fierce elm]

decent

[boreal veldt]

disc is the only fun healer atm

wish i could read what i reflected in combat log

[urban skiff]

ret decided to fight in the open instead of pillar

went 3-3 with 0 rating and loss of MMR again

[rancid granite]

MMR doesn't exist only rating

0 rating not bad gg

[ancient sonnet]

Are there things you could have done better? Seems it's always one of the other DPS doing something wrong. Gotta look inward to climb my friend 🙂

[urban skiff]

MMR is your rating
rating is your rewards track

[rancid granite]

ok ignore your rating its all about the reward / title

[urban skiff]

it ain't moving though

[fierce elm]

mmr is all

[urban skiff]

every draw means I have to get more and bigger wins to start gaining a little bit of points. Think of MMR as banking up points. When the difference is big enough you start cashing out some to put into rating

[rancid granite]

its all about the murlok #

also thats too much thinking and psyching yourself out; i keep saying it

just focus on winning and improving and boom you go up the ranks

because those #s do not affect gameplay whatsoever

[ancient sonnet]

Damn straight! Holding at #50 lol. Gotta queue more!
https://murlok.io/character/us/illidan/jax/pvp

[rancid granite]

they exist to make you feel bad about losing which hurts the mental

[rancid granite]

gg ez i was a fellow #37 nice to meet you #50

[urban skiff]

tbh i could do with some difficulty

hitting 1800 in 4-7 shuffles isn't exactly conductive for progression

this lobby and this arena

good or bad

[fierce elm]

bad

[rancid granite]

good

[fierce elm]

me

[fierce elm]

Its so boring lmao

I liek want to play ss

but I dont want to sit 30 minute queues

[rancid granite]

there's a badass top tier enh in there therefore good

[fierce elm]

judging purely on specs

Fury counters your offense, cant do anything about MM burst, Rogue fucks you up

you only provide grounding for trap

thats about it lmao

[rancid granite]

yeah but they aren't npc's and zercher is a better player

💪

[urban skiff]

mine are like 10 mins

I queue shuffle + blitz at the same time

they pop in succession

another draw

[rancid granite]

my past two were 3-3 and 2-4 and still climbed a bit lol

[urban skiff]

hunter can't kite rogue+warrior, but decides to GIVE IT A TRY

result? I can't hit anything

MMR = CR now in shuffle as well

wasn't even a bad lobby

just a bad hunter who somehow found his bigdam button when against me

I was just asked what is up with this ELO, and if this is gladiators

lmao

[undone wraith]

Are we ultimately pushing for 4 pc as arms? Trying to plan out my gear I’m too indecisive & haven’t bought anything yet why am I like this

[boreal veldt]

i don't think whether or not we go 4pc would affect our buying

[urban skiff]

the answer is not necessarily yes, but it's always yes whenever the stats aren't bad

and iirc arms has no genuinely bad stats

[chilly pivot]

have u try [Reckless Abandon] , how it Feels?

[sharp meteor]

seems deadge after rework

[urban skiff]

extremely, iirc there's almost no difference between RA-buffed and unbuffed attacks now

they raised base mod so high but RA doesn't modify attacks, it applies different attacks with unchanged modifiers

[rancid granite]

so expect it to be buffed making fury S tier again while arms gets another nerf

im ready

[urban skiff]

it is inevitable

[urban skiff]

I got the same hunter again for another shuffle

told him to just pick a spot and stand still

then he started winning

almost regret it, still.. Went 4-2

[rancid granite]

they seemed so excited with the writeup... then no pvp/pve'r uses it

[urban skiff]

i don't even remember it

[chilly pivot]

was playing a blitz with a warrior who use [Reckless Abandon], he was doing insane dmg

so just wondering why no one use it, it was looking so good

[rancid granite]

anger management is just op

[spice hornet]

@sharp meteor hi Kennie

[green wharf]

anger management = more reckless and that means + avatar uptime

if you got the talent

[true tiger]

how viable is prot war in blitzes?

[verbal tangle]

very

[true tiger]

3k able?

[verbal tangle]

to 3k rating? no idea about that high

[true tiger]

i wonder aobut q times as tank

[green wharf]

I mean, if you are good, you can get

im pretty sure Kennie got that

but its going to be a loooong q time boy

i was getting 50m q time in 1800 bracket

[sharp meteor]

depends on how crazy they let this season go

prot was fine to like 3400ish last seas

[rustic grail]

you wont get 3k til much later in the season. it wasn't until the last week that tanks actually climbed in rating. once you get enough rating you'll pretty much auto lose to blood dks but anything below that is fine. 2400 and 25 win definitely achievable but dont expect to play any high rated competitive tank games. on the plus side with pres being the only viable fc now you can at least carry the flag as prot most games, but you'll be sitting bases other maps.

the 1800 bracket is going to have the longest q times because that's where you start out so it's the bottom of the barrel, after you win a couple games and get to the average mmr its much quicker. warrior/dh/dk prob best tanks all around for blitz

[sharp meteor]

BDK kind of depends on map.

Well, and comp.

Only real bad one is deepwind.

[torn sigil]

how do we buy the bloody token helm this week?

with 675? or did i fuck up

[green wharf]

if you save this week you can buy next week

[urban matrix]

Do we use the Siren´s Ring on PVP?

[spice hornet]

No lol

[urban matrix]

Idk, I did everything PVE and Im trying PvP for the first time in ages

[urban matrix]

theres a way to put sockets into PvP gear?

[sharp meteor]

No.

[sharp meteor]

Yes, it's 5,000 honor and 3 bloodstones per socket.

You can also obtain them from the wpvp event but there's usually a lot of people there for those.

[urban matrix]

thakns

[shadow pebble]

u didnt fuck up. Gear guide pinned was wrong.

[rustic grail]

huh? deepwind gorge? they just spin mid with healer or kidnap priest so its same as any other map. but yea other tanks just spin mid all the same. their only bad map is orb map but even then thats just pure teamfight and it can be very team and comp dependant anyways

[sharp meteor]

Bdk often useless on deepwind or silver

relative to just prot crushing people offcarts or lava

again tho depends on overall lineup

and blood does scale harder into higher games

prot sort of limited as to what it can do as it's just fat arms

[rustic grail]

blood dk spinning mid solo or with healer is far from useless. blood dk kidnaps healer or off cart dps into water so theres nothing they can do

[sharp meteor]

blood spinning mid in ravine fairly low value

it's not exactly a niche unless you're somehow forcing people there or freeing up team

versus deepwind wher blood can 1v2 spin mid

or 1v3 at lower mmr

[rustic grail]

why you keep changing up the maps

do u play blitz at like 2k or something

[sharp meteor]

?

what were u as prot/blood lol

because there's exactly zero chance u got higher on prot

[robust hearth]

I finally checked the paladin pvp set

Yall are blasted out yo mofo minds if u think that set looks cool at all

Literally the same as BFA season 1 elite sets except the BFA 1 is a better version

BFA season 1 elite Alliance version *

[boreal veldt]

bdk kidnapped our disc in twin peaks ctf, no fun allowed

[sharp meteor]

what a lil rascal

[spice hornet]

When snuggle with Toni and me

[sharp meteor]

we both warr so probs never

[green wharf]

i mean, its pretty ok for a paladin set

the color doesnt match, but well

[copper fox]

@sharp meteor bro what are you like some 2k blitzer?

[sharp meteor]

ya dat me the 2k prot blitzer

[green wharf]

what this supposed to be

hard/easy to play/learn?

[green wharf]

do you guys know what is this and where comes from

[boreal veldt]

tooltip bug leftover from a hunter

[green wharf]

its being two days lol

[boreal veldt]

you might need to see a doctor

[urban skiff]

Someone tell me that my 1700 blitz and 1650 shuffle are actually very impressive because of how hard a time enh has it this time?

:/

I don't think I have seen many streamers go 6-0 in s2.

[green wharf]

this is always the ello hell for a lot of people

cause you have a lot of newbies or people who dont pvp to try to get the set or the spark

[boreal veldt]

lmfao the 11.1.5 warbreaker is the same just without the floating weapons

just a trashy whirlwind now

[urban skiff]

i started out at like 2800 mmr in blitz and just crashed and burned from there

[urban skiff]

oh my fuck

why

FUCK

[sharp meteor]

I like it.

[urban skiff]

They could have just made it the final demo strike and we'd all be happy

[boreal veldt]

nah if it were the final demo strike it'd never hit

[subtle fossil]

is there any good up to date guide somewhere ?

[urban skiff]

also would be neat if they made warbreaker do a lot of damage

[green wharf]

much better, but much flashy, light-ish

it should be more rough, like, the ground breaking

[urban skiff]

Should be like the aug earthquake effect but less pronounced

I'm absolutely loving that blizzard touts the new corruption enchants as the next best thing

and apparently kind of forgot that dks need their rune enchants

so now they're looking into making them embellishments or enchants for different item slots

🐒

[boreal veldt]

smells like domination sockets

[urban skiff]

or a shoulder enchant

I don't think they'll do embellishments unless we get a unique 3rd slot

[stuck mulch]

please someone tell me, WHY can people que blitz without pvp gear?

[boreal veldt]

i didn't think you could queue without a certain pvp ilvl

ranked that is

[stuck mulch]

idk some DH came in with 9m hp

when everyone else got wat 11m?

[boreal veldt]

ah, probably didn't have trink

[stuck mulch]

love to see it

[wheat jay]

that's normal, some classes just dont have stamina buffs

[stuck mulch]

welp he sucked either way

[fierce elm]

The average without buffs is below 11m

[kind sentinel]

Prob Q’d with pve gear on and forgot

[fierce elm]

also it does have a 662 ilvl minimum

[stuck mulch]

just got the shittiest dh then

pog

[urban skiff]

healer diff

somehow hpriest completely destroying the lobby

at least I got me some mmr boost

[fierce elm]

f mmr

[urban skiff]

kind of need it to get anything out of my wins

going 4-2 and only gaining 15 rating, and then losing 15 rating when I go 2-4 later is a problem

I think shaman is in a toxic place where if your rating goes low enough, you can no longer carry and rely on team mates to know basics about making use of whatever chaos I create

Kind of fucky I can bring the entire team down to 15% hp and we don't score any kills

other times I just kidnap the healer and my partner deletes enemy dps

[stuck mulch]

having fun on enha or u going ele?

[urban skiff]

never ele

I don't like playing ranged, I tolerated aug because of how mad it made people

[stuck mulch]

yeah i panic when i play ranged apart from hunter

[urban skiff]

it's not really panic

[stuck mulch]

for me it is

[urban skiff]

I just like to engage my problems head on instead of kiting them

[stuck mulch]

[urban skiff]

ok what is this lobby

fire mage arcane mage enh arms

that warrior is going to have a bad time or a good time, depending on those mages' skill

[stuck mulch]

i gotta get the elite set for shaman

farming honor for gear on the war now

gues hunter is after that and maybe druid

[urban skiff]

asoth if you're in here, i'm sorry you're going to have a bad time

[stuck mulch]

anyone tried ret paladin after the changes?

[urban skiff]

I hear it's better but not good

[boreal veldt]

i thought it was a bug but if duelist really gets a unique 2h sword using the 1h pve model thats dope

[jovial torrent]

is that the blade saw one or somthing else

[stuck mulch]

the weps this season/tier is so bad

[urban skiff]

game just decided my MMR = CR forever now

oh snap

I have 5 ungemmed sockets

[jovial torrent]

1st checkpoint reached now for 1950

[urban skiff]

man

I should just go train

[south kestrel]

Ss or blitz for rating?

[south kestrel]

Whats easier atm

[stuck mulch]

ss

literally hell in blitz most of the time imo

[urban skiff]

whichever you enjoy the most. You're going to have a bad time both places so priority is whatever makes you play longer

SS you have more agency, blitz you roll dice and have a small chance of getting a really lucky streak

My experience up until s2 start was that as long as your MMR is above start MMR, you're going to have a good time in blitz

[stuck mulch]

fuck me

[jovial torrent]

im 9 games won 16 played, won every game first day, lost every game 2nd day :L

[south kestrel]

Grinded 1800 before but never tried blitz

Elite enchant this time looks like ass but the sets cool

[urban skiff]

I cleaned first day and just completely lost after that

idk what was going on but this season is wonky asf

[stuck mulch]

how does it look like

[urban skiff]

coins

but like really weak coins

[stuck mulch]

got the shit ass DH on my team again, he got 2 set pieces as none pvp, and dont have full trinkets either

fun

[sand sundial]

You need to soldier thru

Then blitz is freelo

[green wharf]

Are you still using S1 gear?

by now people are "well equiped"

[urban skiff]

You'd think so

[jovial torrent]

i wana see the enchant in game, the preview window thing is usually way less full

[green wharf]

need to gem, enchant

[urban skiff]

I actually did gem my gear instead of just having empty gems

also bought 2set bonus

[green wharf]

im bursting my balls here in shuffle cause DH and WW

[urban skiff]

still have unused currency that I guess I'm maybe pooling for next week

[green wharf]

i could deal with then on me fury

but DK is a slop

Frost isnt fun and unholy isnt cooking

[green wharf]

nah

buy a 875 piece or 700 with blood token

[urban skiff]

can't, only have 1k left

I bought a mainhand to try and get ahead

didn't work out, next week I get my weapons I guess

[green wharf]

so thats why you losing

[urban skiff]

pretty sure i lose because my transmog is not hot enough

[jovial torrent]

dreadflame looks pretty nice with the new set they should have given us some pacific rim style blade arms tho

[green wharf]

yThats another reason, the elements dont answer the call of demons

[south kestrel]

Fury or arms atm? Or both basically the same

[urban skiff]

I'm about to give up and play the stormbringer-no-dogs build

[jovial torrent]

what 1h is that, crazy strong glow

[urban skiff]

It's canadian, you wouldn't get it

[green wharf]

doomhamer offhand

[radiant flint]

what's furys best comp right now?

[urban skiff]

TSG, or anything with a mage or spriest?

[jovial torrent]

sad thing is i did the legion challenge mode shaman weps for my friend by not myself :L

[urban skiff]

I'm rank140 in shuffle

Ee

[stuck mulch]

isnt that just 1750 something for shaman

[urban skiff]

1650 lol

Blitz is way worse though

Rank 36 now at 1700 ratihg

[stuck mulch]

bruh

[urban skiff]

I was so fucking close to being featured on Murlokio

😦

[stuck mulch]

''im rank top 40'' :duh

[urban skiff]

literally +2 wins away from it now

or i guess 3

[stuck mulch]

that gap

holy

[urban skiff]

EU rank1 is 2200

US rank1 is 3k

I think there's something fucky going on in US. A LOT of players are 3k in places where there's no similar rating in EU

maybe it's cabal related!

[stuck mulch]

havent it allways been that way tho

ok

healer just insta died and left

[urban skiff]

Some healer tanked my MMR as well doing that. 3 losses with him, the he noped out

he had 0 CR so that was fun

[stuck mulch]

[green wharf]

@urban skiff got two shaman glads on ym lobby

[urban skiff]

shadowlands don't count though

[stuck mulch]

still one of the best mounts

all we get now is a old fucking bat

[green wharf]

why

they are fucking up here

and he is a healer

[urban skiff]

Ask the gladiators in here what they think of shadowlands glads

[wheat jay]

its glad

that's all there is to it

if you want to go by inflation rating then s4 DF mount also doesn't count

and bfa s4

actually none of the mounts after legion count since they're not % anymore

[cinder sluice]

Question . Is set for arms worth taking?

[green wharf]

well i show him who's boss

[wheat jay]

holy dmg

wtf xD