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bis talents, skullsplitter rocking dmg bro
2500 now 🙂
@fierce elm faith yet?
skill issue, just haymaker them off of high places
total volume is down by 40% since last i checked
2-5 more days and we're stonking rich
gonna start putting them up at my desired price so I don't miss my sell window
gonna undecut you
also wouldnt the heraldries
be better for honor to sell for money
175 each
they go for 500g or something
get 14 for the price of a bloodstone
7k gold
still competing with 50k for recipes
for 7.5k honor
recipes sell realistically
realistically
takes a few times and someontimes someone undercuts you by 10k
What enchants we do chat, full speed, or should i go meme and do leech
pretty sure it's speed only
bros pressing his monitor like its his mortal strike key
Bro thinks im an arms warrior ☠️☠️
u r
Fot a moment i was 😎
that moment is the entire fountain of information from which i had to pull from
Any femboys in the chat
Can i drink water from the fountain
real hydrohomies call it h2o
tf is this breh
Pin it
muds not used to seeing gameplay videos without girls insulting him
!guides
any good players or profiles i can look at for talents and gear stat weight etc?
i watching a critcake video rn
that's never updated?
thats pve brother
the answer iws SLAM
Think im going fury so no slamerino
apply rend manually, spam slam then finish it off with whirlwind
All specs have slam
😂
sorry boys, first timing xdd
It's going to get dodo'd immediately. If there's one thing blizzard don't tolerate it's players using the default weak attack we're supposed to outgrow as a big thing
whos this prot warrior
All of us
Lol
Like I said yesterday, they've got to be coming from somewhere and it's not arms or fury rerolling to prot. It's some other spec that's rerolling in droves to prot
What is this LOL
why do prot warriors always want to invade our spaces
Which one
2p procs 4p
lmao
with only 2p equipped
servers up?
Hmmm
so good thing afro didn't accept my bet or i'd be down 1m gold now
afro is a protty
I had a bet I could accept?
Guys monster mango or monster monarch in s2?
Neither fatso
Mango %100
get the white one you fat dane
Mango loco
Yea
Ice?
Ultra white
Drink Ndogofury's Load
I wanna grow stronger, not weaker
God I miss that guy
He didn't even get kicked out. Just left because he was bored with the discord
Understandable
He left because he was bullied
and couldnt take the heat that people think he is boosted lmao
Who would do such a thing?
Lmao I wish people think I was boosted
What's that like?
I mean he is boosted
The 36 rating cap is wack
They should at least check how long a bg takes and try to normalize it with arena duration
If it takes 3x as long as arena you should gain/lose 3x as much
Blitz
Guaranteed to be over in..15m?
Why are people catalysting bloody token gear and not conq?
Blitz is a tough climb though
Who knows honestly
Nahh
I think its dumb
not all tier pieces have great stats
Blitz requires more time than SS
Blitz is a coin toss
Thats a lie
you'll be less sad about having 3% less stats on a badly optimized tier piece
At the start it is
Cause they dumb
Im not having this math problem explanation again
Or have no intention of doing PvE
For blitz? How do you mean
Yes
It is. People pretend persistence isn't a skill. Just a lot of pvp'ers have that in abundance and forget that for normal people it's not easy
for any team games
Ah that
Team games arent a coin flip in essence
I hear you both
because a coinflip is always 50/50
much love
I think we're both right in a sense
But it cant be a 50/50 because you are one of the players on one team
Meaning, you can influence the coinflip
HENCE, not a coinflip
I had PvE andies trying to get 2400 in mind.. So let's say RNG and not a strict coin flip
the shorthand math, is that as long as your personal skill is above the average skill level of people you play with and against, your team has greater than 50% chance to win.
disc + feral kinda cool in blitz
Because 1: you are dependent on your teammates more
2: matchmaking is more detrimental
lost one game by 20 points sadge
Blitz hella fun
I finished top 100 fury war last season
we went from winning to losing in the last 10 seconds of a WSG
I got lazy about it last month
All they had to do was run around with the flag instead of trying to camp base to cap again
😦
Pres is gonna rock until 11.1.5 where they suddenly decide to revise flag carry rules so everything flips around
If they do that please fucking delete the monk tp bs
they already did
Really now?
also deleted void elf teleport at the same time
yeah vertical teleporting has been ruined as well as teleporting with flag
I didn't read about that wow..did that happen this season
GODLIKE
i'm biased but i tend to agree
as it is now all 3 swings deal the same damage each
so either it's an overnerf that erases the identity/point of demolish or it's a bug
I mean the single strikes are supposed to still be buffed by 30%, and we got more gear
It has to be a bug
i think if i report anymore demolish bugs i'll be banned
Are you sure it´s bugged?
If it's damage profile remains unchanged from S1 > S2 gear then ye
let´s hope its a bug and not just nerfed as intended
It's the single strikes that's the main pointer it's bugged
If they're buffed and we have more gear, but they still hitting for the same as last season
It doesn't add up
Are you guys still playing colossus in rated or do you go slayer now?
it's week 1, you do you playa
I like colossus more so im gonna stick to it i think
I was colo for all of S1, but I'm slayer till Demolish does damage
iam coping Karanze
i'll be colo cope until they delete the bugged bonk button
I feel like colossus is way tankier thats one reason i prefer it, the other one is that mortal strike still slaps
slayer seems better kinda, i like colo more
I play arms for big hits, if i wanted many smaller hits i could aswell play fury i feel
Just pray Blizz does something, all you can do
Do you only press execute on procs as colossus and slam the rest?
if you run Executioner's Precision or have 0 Rage, yes.
If you're colo then unbind exe
Slam is infinitely better on colo
On target dummy executes crits for more but maybe slam is better per rage?
dummy doesn't reflect slam's pvp damage
cause blizz is good at their job
however if you read the tooltip while hitting the dummy it'll show you slam's true pvp damage
So when your doing quests and world content, do you press execute or slam?
Im fishing for if i can remove it
because i hate having too many actionbars
are you warmode on?
Open world content you can do w.e
^
not something you need to optimize for really
Becuase i feel like i would get tricked into pressing it if i have it around
bro what
Yeah if it procs or something then i would press it out of habit if i have it on my bars
i´ll just switch place with slam so i press slam when im going to execute
Disregard the dummy
The dummy is the most bugged entity in this game
lol ok, how do they manage to get so many things wrong
Thats the wrong outlook
How do they manage to get so few things wrong
its a 20 year old game with spaghetti all over the coding
its held together by hope
But the target dummies Afro, the target dummies!!
Have you all gotten 1600 yet for the tier set?
did it make a big difference in damage for you?
@fickle forge do you literally never press execute? I think you’ve said you don’t but just wanted to confirm.
not as colo
Ran colossus last night heavy bleeds and it felt competitive at least. 700k+ dps when I wasn’t chasing mages or evokers all the time. Tweaking it to slam all the time seems like the next step. Cleave games was over 1 mill dps a couple times
Is it really that far behind
christ
Cleave you should be pulling 1 million consistently
As colo no
You may as well spec out of exe talents
Can you link your build?
Pin this
@tribal holly
why am i gaining the 4 set bonus as fury when i only have 2 set
bug
Nobody should be complaining about warrior when DH/Enh/WW are doing wayyy more dam
Thank you. Probably move massacre over to skullsplitter and try that
Ww´s especially are insane i feel
Best survivability of all melees and best damage and best mobility
I am proud @urban skiff
ayooo we need this pinned too lol
Carrying Afro rn
LOL
Do arms and fury get targeted both as much in shuffle?
huh
are they both a prio 1 kill target?
What a beat down. Their healer was top damage
I mean we end it in 20 seconds every game rn
Studs. What MMR
did we change our minds yet on what spec the meta is
Think it´s prot man
I don't think there is a damage class that doesn't kekw
Yo alpha saw that we both were on the top 10 prot warrs on drustvar 😎
Whaaat lmao
so 900 rated?
we were 1500+ last night at leat, i dropped today a bit
Placements
i dont know, can you see his spec?
Cause i cant see it
I think the tier set bonus is the secret, with a certain talent i think we can have like perma avatar
if it works like i hope
Tbh if I didn't fuck around I'd be 1.8 atleast rn, i messed up on purpose testing stuff
we dont trust shit
Spam arenas
they alrdy fix it i think then, becous i dont get that bonus
or maby just fury
any fury here that can check if its working on fury?
Why is pve fun bruh
Yeah mm needs a double tap nerf right now
I thought it would be boring
yall really lookin to abuse a fury bug rn?
Every mm gets 2v1 ed so hard in shuffle they dont even do damage anymore
They are prio target kek
Frost Strike is fine
wtf on a frost strike
Been hitting 1.5m slams, frost strike be nothing
that's a dual wielded frost strike
You have to add both damage instances
TSG feels great
fury or arms TSG?
did you craft honor gear or just buy it?
I can't decide if I want the hazzle of crafting or not
buy it
why would I craft it lmao
90% of the pieces had haste vers
3.1M Frost Strike
because you'd recraft to conq when you get the points and keep your enchants?
isn't that what poor people do?
you still have 0
I'm talking about the enchants you put on crafted honor gear
Cape, Chest, Wrists, Rings
not what you had in s1
if you craft S2 honor gear, when you get conquest and recraft, you keep the gems and enchants you put in it
yeah, I aint gemming and enchanting s2 honor gear
you're not
you're gemming and enchanting conquest gear, just before you actually get it
but I reckon I can make value from 3k gold in 3 weeks
That would require me to craft gear
then recraft
exactly
thats too much for me to save a lil gold
I can't decide if I want to bother to save gold
nah
all it does is make it so you can gem and enchant now
But if you dont gem and enchant until conquest
you have just spent gold
the new arena is weird
only seen it once
someone on reddit says it's great because melee can't get back up after a knockdown
I just charge back lmao
Which doesn't sound like a good arena
its high enough where you cant jump up on the platform
but also I'm not sure what melee can't get up fast again? Maybe retri and dk?
two attacks
one global
I know
Its the same here
You don't have to explain
its the same here
I know how it works
It's just wild
it's two attacks you add the damage together
That damage
Makes me want to play dk
then as soon as they survived DK burst I picked up the damage
and then repeat
We lost to a few multi r1 gods
lmao
or rather, we lost to 3 multi r1 gods
did you try using your cooldowns early so they would be ready early?
Afro already sucked me off as payment dw
DID SOMEONE SAY SLAM?
ON RETAIL??
lmao

On retail
fuck I wish trading stock was as easy as working the AH in WoW. I predicted almost every part of this graph
Yeah but I made 10k today
and then spent 10k
lmao
gold
or rather I spent 10k gold, then made 10k gold and now am back at 0 gold made
hang on
until I decide my rogue and ret needs their 1800 set
get 1800 without spending gold challenge
gear break? Tough luck, buy new
lmao
I mean thats simple
the only aids part woud be doing it now
and being 3 items behind
From scratch
Did it on my lock
not after getting honor gear
Without greens
Not zero zero
Oh
or buy honor flasks
Ye I mean
take like half a day/day for honor grind
Like I said, you can't repair gear
walk into arena
If I'm allowed to buy the cc cleanse trinket after first win
grab like 5-7 wins and get 1800
You just dont buy gear until you have enoguh for the entire set
there is no gear requirement for BGs, right?
Hmm
There is
Hmmm, maybe not actually? Idk
You get bumped up in ilvl in bgs, right?
Yes
to 3 ilvls below honor i think
But like I think it wants 620 smtg in pvp ilvl
thinking about how to make the challenge challenging
can't pool honor would be a start
lmao
Im gonna cheese the fuck out of this
Buy gear, do not equip it
this is basically what I am doing on my rogue and ret
they need to grind honor
Just honor trinket challenge
no pvp trinkets : )
15% less stam
That's the big one
so is slayer better than demolish
and is fury better than arms
its pretty even
yes
does it matter?
It's "kill or be killed" tier
wasnt fury S tier last szn?
lmao
but how is Fury less despite rampage being buffed 30% nearly
from 44% to 30%
stats change
well 29
classes change
Like a lot just got changed and buffed/nerfed
so both are still A tier?
you can't expect a spec to get a 30% rampage buff across season to remain s-tier
yeah I would place them both in A-tier
Notice how he said A-
There are specs above it
Was that the sell
A - tier
The tier
I think arms is fine
the numbers are very eye appealing
It's still suffering from Hamstring garbo
But, numbers feel good
Laros did mention the Warr dev reached out
so they are aware that it feels weird to have Overpower/MS/Slam/Execute do the same damage
and be the same thing

yeah overpower hits hard rn
so hopefully they shift over some damage into some of them
Lower slam damage, increase MS/Execute
ive seen execute hit 2.9M normal hit
skillcapped gods say arms and fury are both A tier there's no dispute
recently
what is recently buddy
last night
show
As much as I like Slam doing more dmg than Execute, it shouldn't
nm it was crit
They’re going to turn arms completely into a 2 button spec
Hey guys what is a good talent point to replace rally cry with
i was thinking 5% damage if you interrupt someone or is there something better?
The best choice is to not replay rally
why is my guy replacing rallying cry
yeah, rally is 20% in pvp now, it's a good button again
and with commander pvp talent its a great button
ah thats good to know ill keep it on then
Remind me again, fury wants all mastery or they want a baseline haste first?
I'd stack mastery
tbh
However
it looks like everone is mixing
unless they had haste gear before going over to fury
fury seems like it wanted a lil baseline fury imo
honestly ill always play arms just 800 times more fun than how boring fury is
winning is fun though
can win just as easily as arms
it is a tricky balance between fun spec and meta 😔
funny, i think fury is way more fun
mixing makes sense while waiting to see whether arms or fury gets ahead
not too hard atm to go back and forth at least
man i'm doing nothing magnus' guide is telling me to do lmao
I found some haste to be super good
his guide was wrong last time, people didn't want to listen when I called it out as bad
I never do guides for pvp tbh
they removed purge the wicked from priest?
I just look at what couple people do
ye, just sw pain now
well PtW was just shadow word pain but a holy version of it; and changing the name messed with macros and made it convoluded so PtW is probably just a modifier to Pain but doesn't change the name of the ability anymore
ah
but im already following it so it has to be right >:(
I'm sure it's right this time
if magnus saw me taking the 1600 helm he'd probably have an aneurism
small haste big mastery
Blitz is MAD fun holy fuck lmao
duo at least
Warr + priest goes hard
Absolutely some free rating to gain
Yeeeee
thats why ratings got to like near 4k last season
well thats not why
but it's fun is all
Finished 9-2 for the day
at 1793 rating
Probs just gonna play it duo with friend
but its fun as a casual thing
i forget you can duo it lol
I didn’t notice the def stance nerf 😦
i feel so useful on rogue soloing blitz but god damn it gets lonely
waht dstance nerf
on half of the maps anyway
It was 10% dmg done reduction now it’s 15%
Wait. Is that just in PvP maybe or is my tool tip bugged
Damn. I thought it was only 10
or rather, for a long time
If you’re a warrior solo qing blitz you have a mental problem (I did last season)
Never again
I’m just an 1800 Andy. So it probably doesn’t matter much for me. I just sit in def stance until the inflation hits
what de hell
yeah pass
duo is fun though
Has the consensus on which embellishments, for arms, been established yet?
Nice
pins
why do you bother getting comment pinned if you write the answer 😮
Thx Afro. I was hoping it would be focusing lens
than understanding Magnusz weird note
naa you good brother bear


stonks up @fierce elm
up 200g in the last 3 hours
Noticing a lot of shamans are picking up a mainhand on first week with bloody tokens
some did
missed profit smh
ya
What do you guys think about dropping Fatality and taking Improved Execute instead ?
im running this build and I mainly do 2's and shuffle CcEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCYbGmZmZMzsNLLLjBAAAAzw0MmZWYmFGDmxmZGMMGzAAAAAAAwMzsMGDgYYZbWMz2wmhhZmZahmZwC
kk
I was also a spear lover
unfortunately I have changed my way
I also dislike running rend raw
without Thunder clap
ya i run it cus i play Colossus and cope for the big hits after nerfs my demolish has only hit about 3 mill as biggest hit.
Oh wait you are colossus
Goddamn I FEEL BAD for you
I didnt see that lmao
Actually dont think using fatality or improved execute is good for colo
I dont think its better but its still fun to see those big hits lol
but the only talent you would grab is improved sweeping
start of season so hard i never know what to gear for >:(
Luckily it probably wont matter brother
played 3 games of outlaw and went like 3-16 i hate this spec but i love the aesthetic
oh my lord lmao
not even meta related
are you playing the new build?
if i Q again i'll try it but i cancelled my last Q cause i was ugh at the thought of outlaw lmao
gonna do some delving and swap around to see what im in for
when tryhard mode kicks in everything changes
still so many buttons
i should just do assa for first month so i can get 1600/1800 easy
swap in the future
sounds right
speaking of in delves
t8+ is all the same ilvl loot right
but higher delve = more crests?
I have this screenshot
looks like it
about a day old, so should be relevant
mine is colorful
it is
also wrong lmao
ty both!
I gues I could tryhard a 675 item
thats like a bloody token item
whats the crest cap rn
delves just fun and relaxing and practice
Can any1 confirm this?
Like is it true u get extra conquest peices
it has been a thing since s1
Its not conquest pieces
its 675 ilvl items that you can pick stats on
by crafting them
Ah ok ty for the speedy response I give u 5/5 service
So its basically a free bloody token item

sick dont forget 5 stars on uber
nothing to confirm, it's there and you can do it
you don't get conquest pieces, but ilvl is ilvl
ill q shuff sometimes then notice how often you get double warrior or rogue/warrior lobbies and its so unfun
So its what, one extra piece in 3 weeks?
Easy wins

play feral
and just.. laugh
winning as double warr isnt that easy
anyone using 2p arms enjoy it? i'm debating just not running it atm
that 15% to end it doesn't seem too much trouble?
naaa
It seems to generally get to 4-5 stacks
then end
but thats still 10% extra damage on overpower
for absolutely no downside
We ahve so much vers anyways
that's great news
Which trinket are you guys buyin
proc
on-use at honor level, proc at conq level
for me
always proc
ABC
Always
Buy
(C)Proc
I think afro would be a terrible uber
Where we landin on the debate of fury vs arms
Arms feels better into other wars but fury is just so honest and single brain cell
It’s hard to resist the appeal of ungabunga
About even tbh
It was hotfixed
ah
so it no longer gives the socket again
If even I think I keep going fury. I just love it too much.
o i got lucky then
those that got it keep it
most specs are equally braindead
Yea but as war if I die it’s always healer diff gg
Ret I am responsible for my own deaths
And I HATE RESPONSIBILITY
(Even if it isn’t, shut up yes it is)
now i have 115% haste buffed and with PI from a priest, can u guess if i hit fast xd
Haste Prot, lock in
is there a macro for spear, that let you click and target normally, but double click cast in yourself?
if there is lmk
I use a mod macro where alt casts on myself and regular is regular cast. So mod alt @player champion spear
whats the gameplan for gearing? get both 2h first? you get one from conq and then do u get a free one?

ok but the pin doesn't specify if thats for arms or fury tho
Strangely enough, yes. I can make that
you should play feral
never a bad lobby
You can be certain when you lose that it's 100% on you
If anyone needs jewelry recrafted on EU I can do it for free now. As long as it's not my own mats and you don't care about pve ilvl
got one win at least
What was your starting MMR?
dunno must be around 1700
i only did two lobies
2/4 and 5/1
first one id idnt do shit monk, rogue, 2 evokers
and a disc
I see you crossed paths with rextroy or a fan
Check his video on YouTube and see if you're featured in it
do i queue arms or fury
Apparently 27 rogue
he just did it so i doubt i'm in it lol
Well literally the only thing needed to replicate it is a level 27 rogue. So probably a few people gonna try it bow
Would you rather play KFC or Ret/War atm? Debating what to gear out to play with my Warrior buddy
KFC lol ret does no dam
Hunter it is. Appreciate it
haven't even started the solo arms climb
not looking forward to it
Take note of what their hp is when you start your burst and how close they get to death. It may be a matter of popping cooldowns when target is 5-10% lower
But getting from 0% to 100% takes infinite time.
If their lowest point during your burst is 10%, and you started that burst when their hp was 10% lower, you'd have landed the kill
dude i landed a 2m executed
and won the round
now no one let me play
disc dealing half the dps of a dps

why this spec even exist
infinite time where
i see it happens instantly
THE DEAD DO NOT GET HEALED BACK TO FULL
am i wrong though?
yeah what the heck is up with rogue damage?
It doesn't feel very big or bursty or anything but before the stun is over i'm just dead
we dont get an free item getting 1600 anymore?
no, you get the catalyst charge but have to supply the base item yourself
how did you get your other tier pieces in s1?
yeah thats over now
goddamit blizzard
On my shaman i bought bloody token mainhand, conq head+shoulder that i'll catalyze
i bought leg and belt, cuz i can put a gem on the belt
and leg and belt honor was only haste or crit
gloves and cloak with blood token
turn gloves into tier
but now i dont want to turn leg into tier, it become shit crit and haste
apparently it have to do with the trickster herospec
cause those unseen blades are living up to their name
i dont see then killing me
and the other match i got 1 million damage from suddeon demise
is it a gimmick? i see the top is still using deathstalker
no idea
I try a fury with full haste gear , its insane fun! More fun then my arms
I think haste is better then mastery as fury
Get with the times brother
We've known this for a month+
we clearly didnt
I miss when doing pvp would give you an advantage in PVE
it's literally in the pin as well
you and me both brother
Good times
it filled the ladder up with way more people. A pyramid can only grow as tall as the base is wide and higher participation means more average players as a solid base
where is kajamite written in the pin NERD
Skill issue
between the lines
I think there's something bout enh that's just gotten weird all of a sudden
I used to not have warlocks just casually walk away from me but now it's a problem ? wtf?
didnt face a single warlock so far
shamn only resto
but shaman is frail now
they lost one of their defensives
whatchu having problems with buddy
so... Hunter popular again?
Don't listen to Afro, his life is made trivial via TSG
MM is randomly pumping 2-5m aimed shots
SS is trivial
and the rapid fire is doing a fuckton of damage too
u are trivial
almost like Warrior is doing good
Hunter has always been popular in BG content
but yeah, MM has some nasty shit
that can pretty much only be countered byh aving both a stun and a disarm lmao
Time to watch Dailyshuffle
This game is just too easy for a chad like me
TOP 14 DK BROTHER?!
Unfortunately Kargish wont play the game for a month now
TOP 14 DK AT 1200 BROTHER?!
ayooo i think this fury doing fine
by the time they start casting aimshot and I jump towards them, gives me exactly enough time and range to get lasso on them
yeah what after lasso lmao
These dudes have IV Green Monster in their veins
and you tihnk a lil lasso will stop them
question: which arms talents seem to be better for pvp atm? Colossus or Slayer?
they are guided by their 200BPM heartrate
Slayer
by far
they can try and kite or they can cast another aim shot
that's what cap totem and root and sundering and hex and static totem and hex are for
o and thunderstorm
Not perfect but damn I have a lot of ways to annoy them hunters
but if you know the cheese you can shut it down pretty much
We faced one MM last night in 3s
I straight up chased that mofo all over

Damage cooldowns lmao
By CCing on double tap
so basically the same way you shut MM down last season
only you have to be faster because you will get one tapped if you don't
you're operating under the assumption i have any idea what I'm doing and that what i do is conscious
Last season I just ran them down on my feral and on my enh I made them go away without ever going near them
Yeah, now you gotta learn how MM does damage
Yeah I cant help on enhance
Warr is just Stun - hope they trinket - disarm
And train the fuck out of it
man im really trying to get into arms abit
but it feels kinda off when ur used to fury
Ï mean you can play fury
yeah i kno, i just wanted to try arms for abit to get into it since they are pretty even
i just want to know what I'm supposed to respond to. What is the cooldown called or what does it smell like?
I just realized I had no idea that's a cooldown
no idea what that is called
I just assumed it was like people saying aimed shot twice
bruh
think its sentry 
but this doesn't have an expiration, right? It's just like sharpen blade (RIP BROTHER)
It does




