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I doubt, when the new armor and status kick in
and the modifiers
it will be piss
probably
thing i, blizz didnt gave ptr any pvp gear to test things out
we are doing the testing now and it will continue for the first month

No?
It's unaffected by armor
and it's affected by your 20-40% increase in mainstat
im saying that people will get more hp and more verst too, so i dont think it will crank that much damage
and there has to be magic resistance stuff on armor
there isn't
magical damage bypasses armor
thats whyw e get mugged by mages so easy
Nah
Blizzard don't have the balls to make different specs have different armor levels
So everyone has (mostly) the same amount of stamina, secondary stats, and armor. If a spec has worse armor class because of their armor type they typically have a passive that bridges the gap or like mage armors where their armor is raised artificially
tldr: everyone takes (mostly) the same damage across armor types from both physical and magical damage
then specs like enh shaman with ascendance wreck the system by bypassing armor and dodge passives
nerdass
feels bad to press a Slam when u have like 25 rage, better to save rage until MS is ready?
how good is arms against feral in a duel rn
Why does anyone care about duels?
wb in arenas
arms vs feral
in a matchup
comp is Disc>arms>marks and other is disc>feral>fmage
Right now when nothing matters and Arms is doing some absurd things? Probably arms
Yeah, the feral isnt the worry in that comp for warrior
cs arms js gets gaped?
true
so yes
just click MS or Rampage
u win games
ggs
and also duels doesnot matter bcs warriors suck at it
if u want dueling specs go ret ww feral
dueling spec aka annoying people in wpvp spec
or sitting being lonely at a flag spec
do you guys think MS stacking will ever make any difference ever
new talent + fleet footwork + frenzied enrage + elusive bloodstone (which is what, +8% total?)
for transmog runs sure lmao
yeah I kinda assumed it's just fun to feel fast but no real use in pvp
I guess it's all there anyway minus the bloodstone and some people don't take fleet
seems everyone else has so much freedom + movement speed you'd think it'd help catch up and stick to them but
never ends up that way
I'm too used to outlaw rogue now everything else seems so slow
assa and sub unplayable
tryna be flash?
I want the happy feet
ima grab a bloodstone and try it out in a bg before tuesday
yeah those are the usual cookie cutters
So how bad are these nerfs for arms
Horrible play fury
time to play prot
warrior is dead
I’m re-rolling boomkin it’s so bad
On a serious note…fury feels unplayably squishy. Fricken pumps damage though
Buff Ret
Yeah I used battle trance alot
will bloodytoken be reaseted or just conquest?
Both reset
Time to play hunt bois
Playing a decent amount of SS, arms feels good but not uber broken. Nerfs are making me a little more nervous
just ignore updates and youll be fine
blizz can buff something 500% then nerf it 100% and people will say GG DEAD CLASS
Yeah I still think it’ll be good, maybe not S tier though
i mean theres always week after next... and week after that.. etc
it can oneshot ppl as demolish
wdym not uber broken
ms hits for 50% of someones hp
if it crits during cds
Ah yes a little 100 percent nerf no big deal
'it did 500 dmg then it did 500000 dmg now its only 50000 dmg so its broken and worthless'
dont jinx the patch
@dense herald yeah it was hitting that hard earlier in the week but it sure isn't now. it feels like something already changed.
@boreal veldt Time to unbind this piece of trash
Toss it straight in the bin
Such a joke
Not even worth wasting a global for sudden death
God it's nutty lmfao
Yeah I am specing out of every Execute talent
Looks like blizzard finally won
They’ve been trying to force us into Slam since DF
No
Worthless when Slam is more than twice as good as Execute is right now
dang >.>
would be wild to have arms be at least A tier and no need for execute lol
The no execute build is awkward…what do you guys take?
Improved sweep is a good one

Guys, try to be reasonable
Execute can't do damage, because if it did we might get kills
We can't have that
i mean lets be real
rn its rarer to press slam than execute
execute lost its flavour
its not even an execute
how are you executing people at 100% hp?
should go back to only sub 20%
and GIGA damage
Not anymore 
Take execute off your bars, we slammin
ye lol
quite a sign for a spec rework 👀
I'd very much like a whole spec rework
whole class rework
Rename battle stance to March stance. And it's just we can't be slowed below 80%. Thanks :)
Scratch that
Make it so we cant be slowed at all
Or rooted
Still would lose to mage
@elfin surge 1v1 me 😤 @sharp meteor will be ref
Ya make gladiator stance warrior and make arms dual weild like fury
wait slam does more than execute now?
basically fury?
glad stance for ARMS to be able to 1h/shield
Don't let this guy back in the kitchen
give war blinks ice block 3 weapon + pyroblast and give him flying aiblity in arenas with DFO fluying speed and give x4 bubble
give arms bleed which gives enemy last level cancer irl
What’s the annoying mage spec this patch
Frost always the warrior bane
what specc are you guys lleaning towards at the start of the season? iv allways played fury 
Ww
Contrary to popular belief, noone here plays warrior
whatever gonna be better
All other classes sets suck donkey dicks
quit cappin
yeah there's so many good sets bro
the best pally set was the anniversary update model
mage is awesome too
thts all pally ever needs
is the t2 judgment
nothing else
ever again
cant wait in 20 years for them to update the t3 model sets

Wait until this dude finds out prot got double nerfed
get eyes bro
pala set is insane
and colours are dope
monk set is just head
nothing else
yeah kaigrok is straight chalked
Anyone wanna win trade prot pally r1 shuffle with me this season
@sharp meteor thoughts
Shoulda offered last season. Cooler title
True this season is actually so whack lol
Prized actually fits win traded and boosted players perfectly
Surely s3 will be better
Huge
does
uh
tauren actually have more reach
In classic yea
get better taste its shit
the paladin one and priest one are meh
warrior sets haven't excited me for awhile as well
nothin good enough to make me unmog ruthless elite
@lavish quest nice pfp
zamn is that jeff the devil?
Thanks buddy, was time for a change
My cat came back after being away for like 4 days
Snuggled for an hour then went to sleep lol
Drank like half a liter of milk too
You or the cat? Lol

Bro was on a vacation or sum
Away, cat, snuggle, both
No lol
Execute is stil better then slam
was he grinding solo shuffle?
But u have so much in the specc that buff execute that u dont have for slam ?
Like what
Juggernaut?
Slam has crit modifiers as well
Yeah but if you play prot you need therapy
Maybe playing prot is my therapy 😎
Zamn
Yeah doesn't make up for Slam being more than twice as good
More dam and half the rage cost
Karg is a professional Execute hater
It's ma execute love that makes me an execute hater 

U get 30% rage back from using execute and u buff MS alot
Stil better global to press then slam even if u hit 100.000 more with it
Ur pfp picture bruh
Rampage is like that meme, about who's getting the best head
But u can use slam if u wanna lose to someone that execute u into a fat MS crit 💪🏼
you only use execute when it procs sudden death
Or if ms and overpower is on cd and u have some rage to spend

Never hit slam
Where this numbers from btw
On the case to solve the Slam vs Execute debate
Both sides are passionate about their cause
It's 10% buff to MS bro
Not worth it
And you literally save 4 rage if you use Exe at max
Exe is a bait button on arms unless you're trynna proc 3 marks as slayer
Does the damage with 40 extra rage that Execute consumes already shows in the tooltip?
oh yeah
"up to..."
reading is hard
So both you and the cat enjoyed the milk, got it lol
Yes
Y'all ever have meetups and stuff
No
Wymm bruh
We all should be gay together
Weren't spartans gay aswell?
Its just nature bruh cmon
Yeah i kinda deserve that
Will it actually
Would be so fundamentally broken lmao

Any slammers in chat?
Me
Ah yes, lilcockadoodle, the slammer 😂
is anyone else's heroic leap feeling mega laggy and just sometimes not registering in undermine
just got me killed
I crit blood dk 2mil
Consistently with shield slam
Bhahahaha
Ridiculous i think im doing more damage than arms
Since i have more damage buffs on prot demolish does more aswell
every new zone heroic leap get shit for some reason
i hear same complaints with grapple hook
dragons charge is also bugged
i will say i can charge again wild in midair leaping which i like
but whatever they did to leap has really fucked the ability
Where u find ur numbers? This is atm
Try hitting a PvP dummy to scale it up
yeah the game does not tell you things are different in pvp unless you check yourself
Okey
Sure wonder why Slam is so good in PvP
What if you wanted to go to heaven
But God said: "No path available"
lol
but then the optimal should be hit execute when its free to cast, and then slam if not?
What spec are you
arms
MS on cd, overpower if Ms is on cd, Slam if both on cd
Execute if 1 or 2 stacks of MFE
10 execute vs 10 slam ?
execute
slam
my slam seems not do more dmg
if u play slayer then its execute over slam everyday
I mean, yeah
No just unbind it if you aren't slayer
And I wouldn't be with colo buffs
didnt they nerf colo this comming patch?
same with rend and all bleeds, if i play slayer i just remove all fking bleeds and go full dmg instead i think. bleeds are so weak
Not enough
well, with the current state of arms i managed to hit 2.4k for the first time ever
even though we're off-season
Arms is complete god mode right now, after nerfs it'll probably be high A to S tier
Grats but wtf is that placement
That many people in ladder?
will try 1 build as slayer will full focus on dmg on execute and stuffs, and remove all bleed talents and roar.
then try 1 colo build hmm
Ty, idk what's up with the placement 
I swear I was just around 50 the other day
No way so many warriors are elite overnight
That seems complete troll dude
why?
i shoulds be somewhere around here but the ladder isn't updated
It's god mode right now dude
Arms is crazy
It's not updating because the season ended
Yeah makes sense
here is from R1 warrior trying out, this is no bleeds at all, just pure dmg.
Seems troll brother
i did this the other day, poor dude got deleted
But let us know
2 points in crit over haste, no second wind, troll build
okey like this should be fine
what the fuck improved sweeping
Increased duration on SS
Good for cleaving 
But it's a weird build. Also, you have Deep Wounds, it's not really a bleedless spec
the bleeds just dont feel good at all in my eyes, think going for pure dmg is better for my gameplay idk
need to try xd
Good luck, paisano
why do u guys hate this build

Because direct hit damage requires us to be in range to do that damage.
We are often not in range
I can't
There's this weird "Rooted" message on my screen 95% of the game
Think it's a bug
I do. Gets me no where in the Yolo yuffle life
Can't even get a freedom with hpal & ret on my team
At 2400

send me a good colossus build if u prefere slam over execute then and i will try
Yolo Shuffle. What a great name
Literally all bleed modifiers (minus Skullsplitter and some Execute modifiers)
do u think colossus will be better then slayer in new season or
ask Afro
Colossus will for sure be better
tired of opening up check-pvp and seeing hayne tv
how do u guys planing the order to buy gear? 🙂
by copying whatever the top warriors do
but do u think weapon is good to start with
do you want to gigatryhard at the start or not
or would you rather just grab the free weapon three weeks in
maybe, that's what people were doing early TWW S1 but also many people went to conq weps later
thats all it comes down to
is it gigatryhard to craft weapon first?
Its instant better gear at the sacrifice of less gear later on
Because third week you will be behind in gear
but 1st and 2nd week you are ahead
if youre not actively looking to play at the top of the ladder these few weeks then it dont matter, sit on them and get the free weps in 3 weeks. this can apply to like 99% of people in here
or make multiple warriors
99.9999%
I dont think it matters whatsoever and you can go whichever route and be fine in the end and people overestimate it
Personally
and people are reading into it too much
So go whichever route and you are fine, I doubt not having a weapon is gonna hardstuck you at x rating
nor do I think being behind in gear week 3 will hardstuck you
A hard push early on for non multi r1s means you’re pushing 1800
Based on last season
lol
Can't wait to get my elite set on week 20
2100ish usually p good for first week i try to do that
its better to just queue up shuffle when realms come live on new season if you want 1800 the fastest though
lol big facts
exactly
the game starts to actually become playable around that time
It doesnt matter whatchu do lmao
any earlier youre just looking to get abused by fotm sweats bad tuning
I'm a pve'r starting tomorrow
yup i play for fun, so i like queueing early its exciting. also get to q into streamers and stuff
Don't PvP for 2 months, assess what specs are god tier, then come back
Free weapons + 3 crafted pieces = more of a dopamine spike imo that’s all that matters
The only issue imo is the cost of crafting / enchants I’m broke af
Now we just need them to nerf Slam and put the power into Exe
And it's a good season
I am a TOKEN gamer
20 bucks for gold that I don't have to farm
a bargain
I need to get on that token life I’m running out of my wod garrison gold
this system is designed for them to make money from token sales 100%
exactly
its literally cheap in hours put in
I spend 20 bucks on way worse shit than a token
farm gold for an hour like a bot, get 20k.
work 1 hour irl even at the lowest paying min wage job, buy token get 200k
if I can spend 20 bucks on two coffees and a sandwich I can spend 20 bucks on a token
one token is usually enough for a season
1 chickfila meal is $14 here
I spend $3.75 on energy drinks 3x a day so yea same lmfao
be careful that bad on your heart
how much gold is this
its like 200k something
Thanks dude I’ll let me heart know
anywhere from 200-300k
can you?
I work at a gym so it’s convenient to buy them there 1 at a time. If I bought in bulk it would be different
the real money is in boosting
Yeah I can also not slave away and farm gold on WoW lmao
It’s $3.75 each
Trumps America BROTHER
Can I buy a frappe mortelle for 400k gold?
you can get celsius at sams club for like $2 each
but yeah at a gas station of store most energy drinks are around $4 each
bro Celsius is disgusting
You just get whatever cheap shit is on sale, order like 100 of them
Celsius is goated
yes
yeah and it doesnt t aste like literal poison
The rest are subpar in caffeine amount usually
ez pre-workout
i just get a big redbull for a night sesh and im good
coffee i only drink in the afternoon once
How do you go into cutting season when all your friends want to drink on CD?
I dont drink
energy drink talk i forgot there's a buncha teenagers here
I aint a teen
I just got a crippling addiction to feeling my heart beat at 160 while resting
how much vers do u think we need go for in s2? or can we craft iteams with haste/mastery and skip vers on some iteams?
the stomach pain outweighs the rush
also i like to sleep
wdym stomach pain
you good man lmao
monster drinks / too much coffee and stuff > me lol
Good afternoon! Hey guys, is execute better than slam? Also, do arms warriors beat brewmaster monks in a duel????? 👹
why everythin cost so much money
and why do 90% of energy drinks taste like battery acid
Because gas stations are expensive
Economies are fucked that's why
Gas stations has always been expensive wdym
Gas station always 2x price on energy drinks
Costs of shit doubles a lot faster than my wage doubles
I get that. My point is even 1x is expensive kek
I don't drink energy drinks so I don't study their prices
I do 😦
Can hardly afford to drink air these days 👴
any tips on dealing with affliction locks in 2v2
Reflect or kick haunt at all costs
legit cooking tf outta me doing like dbl my dmg
save leap for port + dont charge into soulburn port freedom
stop ua/haunt
if they play pet sweeping strikes when its on u and slowly kill it (dont focus it unless its like 20% and u can just kill it real quick)
word
also
anyone have a list of the new bloody token iteams?
Sup
Keep circling them ao they have harder time casting
You said it yesterday but arms exe just needs a full talent cleanse/rework
delete jugg
Juggernaut is just soo shit
Maybe if they made the precentage bigger
It would be better
3 precent for a single execute is nooooothing
Yeah there's no other way
It's very backwards right now
Brother no
yeah you should go 0 versatility
because they go that in PvE too
Or close to 0% at least
xd
join me brotha, we do vers > crit > mast
FULL DAMAGE, SLOW SWING
i like the numbers, but without haste is so awful playing
you'll be better off with vers>haste>mast
it's more flexible too incase you wanna try out fury
value of crit goes up as games become more lethal
crit nerfed bigly and hp pools just got buffed
@urban skiff number man, how much honor do I need for full gear
~12k
i guessed it last night and someone said the same number same time so i assume its right
Roughly 12K if you don't buy any Bloody Token or Crafted gear day one.
I mean I am 100% getting full honor gear before I step into arena day 1
with the bloody token cap reached
You guys think monster green will be stronger than monster white in s2?
Go full crit and than haste
Monsta green all da way
That means mastery is better ?
Wait how did crit got nerfed
It's been 50% for several seasons now
Yeah
so its 150%
and not 200%
meaning it doesnt gain as much value as the other stats
No
Bruhhhh
It means your crits do 50% more dam, not double
THAT IS WHAT 150% MEANS
🧑🏼🦼🧑🏼🦼
This is wrong dumb dumb
Im gonna beat you up irl
The value of crit goes down due to the nerf to crit values in PvP
afro getting lost in semantics?
Im gonna beat you up
is that tren agression speaking through you?
The value of crit as a stat goes down
Because its nerfed
Not semantics
Fine
xD
the value of power gain is lower
Crit is less valuable but you gain the same crit value
reported
I'm NA, you can't loser
Hehe xd
Crit is nerfd so u go mastery . LoL
I got contacts
You don't have NA friends
You went mastery/haste before it
Because turns out having crit RNG just fucking blows for most specs
mud gonna send a bomb of violently shaken monster cans to leland's house
You go paladin
monk
Not tomorrow
I believe
Back to f tier bois
It's pve time
typical Artji
bro im a prophet of meta
Tell me something new
Monk was fine
And you probably already read the changes
Artji has 12 characters ready to reroll
we don't talk about dh
to the best one
Survival wont be meta in 3s for long
was gonna make enh but i cba totems
lets be real
ye
that spec is more forgettable than WoW lore nowadays
I go r1 this week becous warrior are the best class this season
its offseason brother
Didnt season Open this week
HAHAHAHAH
no
Like 90% of the playerbase isnt playing
Bro living in a dreamland
rn is the time to test shit
OMG i think it was start this week
hitting r1 start of season is really easy lmao
💀💀💀
Wednesday, I think we all misunderstood eachother
U didn't see all ur rank was grey bruh
waiting for seif or someone else to get sneaky queues the second server opens and stream with "R1 WARRIOR STREAM DROPS HERE" or something like that
Thats Kargish title on Wednesday
ye that too lol
Karanze [R1 ARMS WARRIOR WEDNESDAY 14:00 PM]
Karanze [TOP 10 ARMS WARRIOR WEDNESDAY 15PM]
and its gonna go lower and lower as time goes by
mad i missed the crit convo
Just pray for a more active 3s Ladder
why play 3s when you can get same rewards from blitz/ss with 20% of the effort and skill
No gladiator title in that shit
of chill gameplay
you mean the exact thing everyone predicted in SL? lmao
title goes out after the season is over, its worthless
R1 Arms Bench Presser
mount is dogshit lmao
yeah
and its entirely fair
If they wanna release a gamemode then ignore PvP again then fuck it lmao
3s is the for fun gamemode now
if given a choice people will go for easier route to get to the same destination
I have it for NeXT season to
Thats r1 title buddy
The gladiator one
true but most people arent gonna be top 1800-2800ish players so no dragon
that's 0.1%
so might as well q blitz or shuff
just "Gladiator Shady" you lose when the new season starts
Give me a cool mount and I will properly learn how to play my spec
see this?
until then I am a casual
that elite monk is going away in 2 days
i see some folks on that big dumb bat, it looks so bland
its terrible
Then its time to go for r1 title then
What bat bruh
ya df draggies better
It looks like a world drop mount unfortunately
You see the glad DF dragon and its visible across the world
glad mount is a gargoyle/bat in armor with uninteresting color scheme
Bruhh I want the legion glad mount
Aah dam
yueah wait for Legion classic
Yeah i ain't playing legion bruh lmfao
best expansion
Its soo time consuming
The quests and shit and world quests
enjoy better gameplay
Broken shore and alla stuff
broken shore was fun
especially the mage tower
unironically best content ever made in wow
Yeah it was fun but daaaaaam ,its gonna take a lota time to do all the reps and campaigns
Best imo is wotlk 😍😍
Cause huge revenge crits
problem with classic expansions is some classes were lacking some fun buttons like we have now
worst thing about legion was sylvannas jumpscaring you when you were near a wpvp warden tower quest
They gonna skip wod right?
no
Bhahahahaha
wod was one of the best pvp expansions
UNICORN
and do you know why?
because it was cut in half
That pvp gear kinda based
MoP was too good balanced
and there was a long ass break before next expansion
In august its time
I wish wow just stayed in mopnor sum
Soon just some months left
Im gonna download some mop music on my phone
That shit is banging man
Warriors were nuts
And so was any other spec
wish i could get that set :/
It was beautiful
not on an elf though
Monk set is soo gooood
where is that from, i didn't realize monks HAD a good set
Omg
Season 2 lmao
Current set
What the fuck is that helmet lmao
Its for the WEEBS
Super shenron lmao
s2 monk set
thats literally the set lol
weebs
Who's that on ur pfp
mmm
1sec
the chin man
btw afro im lifting again
big time
FOOKEN SWOLE IN ME ARMS
Bruh if u want huge arms
I can teach u some workouts
😎😎😎
I used to be an armwrestler for years
lmao
Sheeeeeeeesh nice
i also train almost exclusively arms lmao
U don't need anything else
Why even bother bruh
How much u weigh rn
What's the point of playing arms,if u don't look like devon larrat
Monk set is sweet
Bro they did warrior dirty
Ngl
Paladin is the goated imo
But idk they keep going for lion head sets and shit, lions are for alliance
Why tf a blood elf gotta wear that
Its supposed to be faction neutral
something courage and leadership blah blah thats just paladin stuff
Lmfao
HAHAHAHAHA
Broo like imagine, they shoulda given horde like idk, phoenix or something
i like warrior armor
Or a fucking crocodile
i think dk, monk, warr, pala all got good sets
mage is the best tho
no contest
its amazing
It does look cool but they coulda done better, looking at the paladin set
Im salivating at paladin one
Like hooly shit man
This and the red one are the best imo
Id place green on third
ye thats a good set, i think the set isnt the best tho
a tiny bit diff helmet and it'd be great
or spikes oin helmet, like shoulders
Yeaaah
I was just about to say that
The belt is amazing btw
Now taking a good look at it, its fuuucking siiick man
Im so excited
Ill raid just for this set
You'd have to play mage tho
ye
sadly
ngl
i'd dig a fire mage being a melee with sword or two swords
fire slashes and shit
mage with this????
Sheeeesh
Rogues i think at the begging actually were supposed to be able to use a small shield
Their set is quite similar to their vault set
There already are spellswords in the game, Blizz just ain't making the spec
But honestly enh shaman is just that
This one is so bland imo it's the worst of the 6
DK and Mage is peak imo
Idk i kinda like it
Looks completely different from the other ones
Chunky and round and pointy
Would look good with a shield on
It does scream warrior but it needs to have more horns i think
Really?
And the mythic one is peak
Bruhh i looove this color
The red one?
Red the pvp green and this one are my fav prolly
The red black one, not the bright red/turquoise
Yeah yeah i know
It looks sick
But im tired of red aggressive ones tbh
I prefer a colder color and more bright
its just every warrior color together so good
the helmet could do with some horns maybe actually
Yeaah that's what everyone brrn saying
Why da helmet got no horns
Or spikes atleast
the warrior set is A+ but the helm... ill need time for it to grow on me
Truuuueee
The boots being the same as the DF set
Its kinda like a cyclops
Is meh
If they made the claws on boots less goofy it would be super good
This was goated
Hammer in that tanky juggernaut look rather than some dragon stuff
Especially with the beefy ass pants
Tbh s2 gear has its vibe
Like its so pleasant to look at
And the effects on the shoulders loon fucking sick
everyone saying no use for execute, replace with slam (at least for col?) but im not sold on the idea
ah yes a dmg amp on our biggest button how very useless
biggest button that got buffed to top it off
can i track this slayers strike ? cant see any buff or something stacking
I believe its a debuff on enemy, not buff on you


