pvp

[urban skiff]

I don't like that they nerfed sunfire by 40%, it means it's probably going to be worth flexing into moonkin form for it

[green wharf]

nah, ferocious bite got only 10%

[urban skiff]

FB is like not part of my damage at all

at least at 2k mmr in 2s in s1 mostly people died not because of FB spam but because they just bled out when we were running a bit of cc

[green wharf]

exactly, thats why i said it was just a wristslap

[urban skiff]

Wanna see something funny?

@green wharf are we cooking or what?

[green wharf]

what is this

[urban skiff]

enh damage

[green wharf]

you using flamestrike?

[urban skiff]

Sundering is flamestrike damage

physical + fire = flamestrike

[green wharf]

look pretty meh, not gonna lie

[urban skiff]

6m dps is meh?

[green wharf]

for the big slap to do just 697

the dk was giving 1m tiks

[urban skiff]

it's cast passively with hot hands

[green wharf]

we using lava lash again?

[urban skiff]

of course

if it's OP in m+ it's going to be good in pvp

From my understanding stormbringer you're a god when you pop ascendance and literally worse than shit without

[slow solstice]

does shuffle rn have mmr

like

can i queue into noobs

[urban skiff]

shuffle is exactly like it was last week, you just don't get any rating rewards

[slow solstice]

so im at my mmr

zzzzzz

also

how do i unlock antorus

[exotic forge]

Do the argus starting questlines

Up til you unlock antoran wastes

[urban skiff]

loving monster hunter but where are my textures??

[slow solstice]

gone

[urban skiff]

@green wharf I have an idea

they need to abandon enh shaman dualwielding 1h

enh needs to be the spec that uses a 2h and shield

[high star]

this warbreaker animation is killing me

[green anchor]

it's really ass

[green wharf]

shield is for the tank spec

[urban skiff]

Nah man. I want gunlance in all games. So put shield in main-hand. Put 2h in offhand. Lava lash go boom

[bright kraken]

guys should i rename my main to Galeburn or Icommitarson (survival hunter)

[fickle forge]

Yoyomeister

[bright kraken]

Kurwa

[green anchor]

Icuminarse

[green wharf]

that sounds more like another class

one that they will never give us

[urban skiff]

It fits enh shaman kind of. Offhand dealing fire element damage, mainhand dealing physical and striking swiftly. Having big cannon for finishers.

[green wharf]

are yal making innuendos, cause i was going to make a dirty joke

[green wharf]

but why a 2h and a shield

[urban skiff]

I only have 12 hours in monster hunter wilds and I've already lost track of how many times i impaled a monster's brown star with my tool

[urban skiff]

1. gunlance
2. looks awesome
3. game doesn't have a 2h + shield yet. Besides ranged+shield it's the only combo we're missing

[green wharf]

the only thing that came to mind when you say gunlance is a dude with a revolver and a shield

[urban skiff]

ok i need to educate you on monster hunter real quick. Hang on, I make it brief

https://youtu.be/Azn6r5wTd48

[green wyvern]

is it fury angle again

[urban skiff]

huh?

[open glen]

Random question is there a good lfg discord for arenas

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/malreynolds-firefly-speechless-gif-5332816

[urban skiff]

GUNLANCE

[lavish quest]

We never make it into the season without nerfs. Would have to be an idiot to think we'd be strong forever

War pretty much the first to get nerfed every time, it's not some new thing 😂

[urban skiff]

Lots of redditors losing it right now

Either too many changes or too few changes. Maybe they're too early or too late

[lavish quest]

MM untouched. Rogue 1 shots not really touched

[urban skiff]

The current round is literally just the stuff that missed patch day deadline, can't convince me otherwise. These things take a lot of time and data to decide and implement

[lavish quest]

Might have to just play hunter to cope with another caster season 💤

[urban skiff]

I'd play Hunter but mm is just so... Castery

I want to play BM but its too complicated

[acoustic lintel]

fury warrior ape brain

[lavish quest]

BM is getting a boof

[true tiger]

finally big war and fdk nerfs

[lavish quest]

Finally?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1198213371154153484.gif?quality=lossless&name=ragey&size=48

[fickle forge]

Killed off my main and alt overnight

[wheat jay]

its fine, i'll carry you habibi

[true tiger]

ye bro i was 1 tapping anyone i was touching

needed big nerf

[lavish quest]

We were finally balanced is what you're saying?

We have to 1 tap with how cancerous roots and slows are in this game

[hot solstice]

So here is difference between s1 conquest gear and s2 honour set. Guess we still casualy hittin 1.5mil+ non crit mortal which isnt that bad

[chilly pivot]

Arms or fury after nerf?

[wheat jay]

none

reroll

its dogshit

its joever

[hot solstice]

prot

[wheat jay]

go play evoker

[green wyvern]

you forgot about armor values

they downscaled s1 armor values

[hot solstice]

its not that bad anyway

if they fix mm and disc and some other specs ofc

[green wyvern]

I think fury will still be better

[hot solstice]

afllis dark glare hits like a truck and nobody mentions cause warri throwing 3mill hits left and right

ppl havent seen yet how much overpower hits with slayer proc

[chilly pivot]

arms Will be s tier

[true tiger]

its good

[green wharf]

Prot prob got the most fucked

[green wharf]

yeah, shit tier

[chilly pivot]

colossus or slayer as arms?

[fickle forge]

Colossus

[chilly pivot]

u sure?

[true tiger]

who plays prot

never seen any

[true tiger]

shit hits hard but predictable

id go slayer

[chilly pivot]

whats the prio list on abilitys for arms? never played it

execute > overpower > ms > slam ? or how is it

[green wharf]

@sharp meteor

[true tiger]

ms big prio

click ms when u can

[green anchor]

yes, click

[chilly pivot]

whats next on pripo

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/oden-nitoryu-oden-two-sword-style-one-piece-kozuki-oden-oden-gif-8294405965829601764

too late

we fury now

[exotic forge]

Ms whenever available. Now that martial prowess got nerfed you don't need to OP before MS for big hits

[true tiger]

on slayers its ms>exe>op>slam

[exotic forge]

It is as it should be

[true tiger]

but ppl say

slam hits hard now

so might be better than op

gonna see after nerfs

[exotic forge]

Nah, overpower is still better

But Slam is a good filler now

So just hit that if Ms and op are on cd

[true tiger]

go fury

i hit 1 mlns with raging blows

yday

[chilly pivot]

arms is so much stronger then fury

even afther nerf it will be

arms is the meta this season

[exotic forge]

We're so back

[stuck mulch]

Sadge

[true tiger]

ye but i cba colossus arms man

https://tenor.com/view/uoh-sob-emoji-crying-cry-gif-13917329750550678969

[rancid granite]

i just wanna know what gear to get

😔

hot take arms/fury aren't different enough to care about spec so playing whats meta is fine

[urban skiff]

You're more than doubling health pools in full conq from now, but mainstat only goes up by 30-40% iirc

[true tiger]

i like arms but not colossus

slayer is that behind?

[urban skiff]

Colossus is the superior spec, slayer is stupid

from style pov

[rancid granite]

there's still like no difference in it; colossus gets a bigger boom button, slayers spinny does more dmg

[chilly pivot]

how to think about rend, allways have it up?

[rancid granite]

same thing

[rancid granite]

tclap

[chilly pivot]

and do i spread it on more targets?

[green anchor]

with Clap

[exotic forge]

Spread if you can but rn bleeds aren't huge prio

[chilly pivot]

okey so i never press rend just tclap

[rancid granite]

slayer is peak samurai sword master spec; colossus is just big knight

[exotic forge]

Ye

[urban skiff]

nah!

samurai used guns

and bows

[green anchor]

rend does more instant damage and costs same rage

[urban skiff]

but rend+hamstrike is two globals

[exotic forge]

But you can parry it and dodge and block it; tclap can't be dodged or parried or blocked

You're better off using tclap

[chilly pivot]

then i just need press like 1 tclap and rend will allways be up

[urban skiff]

is rend first strike affected by armor? I feel like thunderclap bypasses it but that's such a tiny thing

[chilly pivot]

i apply rend from MS to?

[green anchor]

Doesn't hamstring slow a lot more

clap is like 20%

[exotic forge]

Only if target is at or below 35% health

[exotic forge]

Yes

[exotic forge]

And yes. You obviously prioritize that or use howl but you still press tclap to apply or refresh rend

[urban skiff]

Thunderclap is everything all the people whine about all the time: Rotational damage ability that automatically applies slow to everyone

If a spec like feral had thunderclap people would be losing their shit over the auto applied aoe slow

[true tiger]

everything has slow now broski

what matters is roots

[urban skiff]

not enh

[exotic forge]

People should be glad it's the way it is now, it used to be way more obnoxious

[true tiger]

frostshock

suii

[urban skiff]

that ain't it

[true tiger]

ye slows

[urban skiff]

It costs two talent points

[true tiger]

but mages gonna outrun u anyway

[true tiger]

its mandatory tho

[urban skiff]

and is only a 60% slow

[true tiger]

ye but

enhs have rootd

[urban skiff]

that is true

[exotic forge]

Every 30 sec

[urban skiff]

but the number1 complaint by enh players is that we get kited a LOT

[true tiger]

im enh main

[urban skiff]

Me too

[true tiger]

what i lack ks

mobility

give us

2x lunge

orr less cd on sprint

i cba playing vs mages

[urban skiff]

Tbh just let us frostshock without cancelling ghostwolf

[exotic forge]

I thought they could do that already

[urban skiff]

using 3 globals to try and catch someone while also being fully slowed for one of them is not amazing

[true tiger]

0.5 sec cd decrease in every 10 mw stack spended

prim dtorm also has to be ranged spell

[urban skiff]

holy fuck yes

[true tiger]

that shit can be missed so easily

[urban skiff]

And make ascendance work with other stuff than just stormstrike+autoattacks

[true tiger]

i like totemics dmg rn but

it needs so many things to precast

[urban skiff]

Totemic is fucking weird right now

[true tiger]

to do same dmt as

MS

hard to play vs rangeds

[urban skiff]

totem -> flameshock -> have to cast peewave before doomwinds -> try to land your lava lash from the totem so you proc hot hands -> spam melee abilities but sometimes you have more than 80% haste so you can use lava lash every global but sometimes you don't and then don't forget your final cast in doomwinds MUST be primal storm

I think the variable length of lava lash / built in cooldown on stormstrike is making it sort of awkward to play

[true tiger]

u alsoo need to have 10x mw stack to hit big with pstorm

[urban skiff]

either let us mash it or make so it's always every other global, and remove the cooldown on stormstrike too

[urban skiff]

also this, i keep forgetting

[true tiger]

so many built ups man

[urban skiff]

but you also need to use the meatball before peewave

and you need doggos before

and if your meatball procs haste you're in for a really good time

so totem flameshock peewave meatball doomwindslust lavalash hothands playstyle finish with primordial storm

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-plan-coping-kid-the-kid-is-coping-gif-26280717

[true tiger]

sorry which spell are u calling meatball 🤣😂

[urban skiff]

elemental blast

[true tiger]

aaahh

[fickle forge]

Arms looking hot in S2

[true tiger]

the bazooka spell

[urban skiff]

technically it's the spicy meatball

lava burst is the regular meatball

does captotem really only stun for 3 seconds? I always felt like it's more

[true tiger]

hmmm soo u spend mws from pwave on blast

before pstorm

i always hurry to get 10x mw to click pstorm asap

[urban skiff]

yeah, at least in pve you want to use pstorm at the end of doomwinds to get another lava lash

[true tiger]

3 sec ye

[urban skiff]

since it raises proc chance for hot hands to 100%

but i cannot remember why that interaction is or where i foun dit

[true tiger]

has to be with totemic talent

bcs dont remmeber reading that anywere

[urban skiff]

oh yeah and we also need to make sure meatball is 10 stacks so we get frostwitch but we also need frostwitch during doomwinds OR to cast pstorm before frostwitch ends in doomwinds

[true tiger]

or just click w.e procs asap suuij

[urban skiff]

ngl, the rotation looks super cool for pve

exactly the kind of bullshit i love

oh fuck yeah and the set bonus

we need to finish with crash lightning after doomwinds

with frostwitch up

[true tiger]

ye bro seems like we do everything at thr last second of doomwinds

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-sweat-heat-hot-wipe-sweat-gif-17716050

[urban skiff]

it's because it's 3 hits

https://youtu.be/62FixowbjE0

[green wharf]

@urban skiff halp zandalari or highmountain for my druid

[true tiger]

taurens best bro

[urban skiff]

both great for different reasons

but if you want to be goat at pvp you're locked into nelf

I enjoy having a 50% self heal when I run to reset while my wife is in cc

kthuman really stronk too if you can use haymaker without leaving catform

and doesn't suffer from buggy sounds so not unplayable because of weird sounds

[green wharf]

I genuinely, rather cut off my left nut

than play an elf

[urban skiff]

You're just mononuts-ist now

I don't have my left nut

[green wharf]

with a chainsaw

[urban skiff]

Boy are you going to be chuffed now

Guess how i lost it

[green wharf]

nah, i will never play an elf

one of the reasons i enver played dh

[urban skiff]

tbh I think worgen has potential now

macro a form swap / cancelform into darkflight and you're just fucking gone

[green wharf]

thats alliance though

[urban skiff]

but kthuman has 1% vers (+1% damage done, -0.5% damage taken, HUGE), 1% less frost and nature damage taken

ele and fmage and fdk crying

[green wharf]

But highmountain do ahve mroe verst

[urban skiff]

also you self-heal constantly when hit

[green wharf]

+1 verst as well

[urban skiff]

roughly half as good as the warrior equivalent

half as good as pain and gain

[urban skiff]

Don't get tricked, "damage reduced by X" mechanics are weird and interact weirdly with stuff

I'm not informed enough to tell you that it's good or bad now. Just that you need to look up how it works these days

[green wharf]

i have to pick between those two anyway

cause they are lv 71

and aint leveling another one

[urban skiff]

tenacity is 20 x stamina x 0,00045

go HMT

That way one of us is doing right, and the bullrush is like 20-30 yards, which is also kind of good

Bull rush can be used in cat form

[wheat jay]

yo

should i read my abilities at some point?

[true tiger]

taurens have cook charge stun tho

[true tiger]

what spec

[green wharf]

as a warrior? no

[wheat jay]

windwalker

i still have no idea what my hero talent does

[true tiger]

ww hero talents

[wheat jay]

like what the fuck are august celestials????????

[true tiger]

doesnot matter

click celestial cond 2x times asap

[wheat jay]

fair enough

[true tiger]

and run towards taget

[urban skiff]

Absolutely not. Nothing good comes from that.

[true tiger]

rest u can read

[wheat jay]

ww is fun ngl

[true tiger]

very fun

windrush or whatever new ability is called hits like truck

[wheat jay]

conduit into slicing winds is like 60% of someone's hp

slicing winds, doesn't even hit that hard lol

[true tiger]

60%

i be killing ppl

[wheat jay]

hits for like 1.5mil at best

[true tiger]

w just CC

[wheat jay]

if they dont use anything, ye

[true tiger]

i hit smn with 3 mln

[wheat jay]

but dmg splits

[true tiger]

ayo

[wheat jay]

player or pet?

[true tiger]

player ofc

[wheat jay]

cuz on player highest i had was like 2.3mil crit

[true tiger]

it was mage thi

[wheat jay]

ye but its magic dmg

[exotic forge]

Never read your abilities

[wheat jay]

so armor doesnt matter

[exotic forge]

Go ape shit

Big numbahs

Fuck Stat values and percentages

[true tiger]

i have vid where rogue got hit with 4 mln

[exotic forge]

Zug zug

[wheat jay]

lmao

had to be something wack, like rog having 0 vers and procs aligning

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-the-agents-know-dont-gif-18536773

[true tiger]

wws abilities need to be read except hero talents for sure

[true tiger]

i think it was nahj?

[wheat jay]

ye i never did

nahj was the skinny nerd?

[true tiger]

it was streamer rogue i just saw vod

sent bt friend

[wheat jay]

fair

[green wharf]

the celestials are the wild god spirits of pandaria, that you can channel their powers

when you summon xuen, the white tiger

he is a celestial

[true tiger]

xuan?

https://tenor.com/view/juan-gif-21122849

ye also something som3times summons smol xuen

[green wharf]

We didnt craft with zanda racials, didnt they got a upgrade?

[true tiger]

u also gonna see some cool ass yaks and cranes sometimes

[green wharf]

those are celestials as well, and the green serpent

[true tiger]

serpent also cool ye

if u see them means u did smthn

so keep dmging ppl

easy af

[urban skiff]

upgrade was that the heal is now 50% instead of 100%, but now only breaks on direct damage, not dots

[green wharf]

thy can pick one of those as well

[urban skiff]

yea i know

i set mine ages ago and never used it again

i think everyone uses pa'ku or bwonsamdi

might have to look up what people use in pve to see if any is a massive outlier for damage in m+

[green wharf]

my singleplayer mind always make me look at those skills with a better faith

like, in my head, i imagine kimbul being a excelent racial for assassin rogue

but i guess the damage is garbo so it doesnt matter

[true tiger]

if u run away

yes

if u geg dmfed

its doomed racual

[urban skiff]

I'd say for feral it's a pretty solid ability

very easy to run away

So when healer sits cc I can just run and heal up, when it's over and they make their way around the pillar i can prowl-rake them to go back 0-100% again on pressure

[true tiger]

its duel talents i would say

in SS Htauren racial is better

[urban skiff]

i don't disagree

but the change to making regeneration work while dotted was a very good chance

[true tiger]

ye thats nice

not so useless

[urban skiff]

if the channel kept up regardless I'd say it had very high value for feral

use it to fake fakecasting for precog

[green wharf]

hummm

i think i will go zanda

[urban skiff]

pfft

go hmt

[green wharf]

might be great for blitz

[true tiger]

hmt best bro

[green wharf]

tf then go to side and heal

[true tiger]

u see ppl

charge in

[urban skiff]

or check if you can travel with mht with flag without movement suppression

[true tiger]

bonkers

[urban skiff]

I think there's also value to the knockdown, it's not a stun right?

[true tiger]

its stun

both tauren is good

[urban skiff]

extra aoe pseudointerrupt regardless

[true tiger]

tankier

cc

big shoukders

chads

[urban skiff]

I wish hmt had broken antler look

[green wharf]

but dino forms though

[urban skiff]

I know that's fucking weird when antlers by definition fall off and regrow

dino forms look great, especially if you team up with a hunter who uses same cat form on his pets!

[true tiger]

whats zandalaeis feral frm

is it some kind of lizard?

[urban skiff]

double fun if the pets are named same as your druid

[true tiger]

tbh never seen zandaari druid

[urban skiff]

it's dinosaur x catform

you can literally tame them as pets so it's a unique advantage, by being visually indistinguishable from hunter pets

[true tiger]

i saw once with bear fkrm

it was turtle i think

right?

[true tiger]

dats awful bro

go hmt

[green wharf]

it looks metal as fuck

travel form

[urban skiff]

rate this tier list

I think it's B tier

All tier lists should have the majority of specs fall into B tier so i can't put it higher

[green wharf]

frost S tier

[urban skiff]

i think he was a bit too fast

[green wharf]

holy fuck, people complanning about war and dks

did they sleep on monks

[urban skiff]

haha

[green wharf]

what is this damage

[true tiger]

monks are rarw

to face

tbh

i think udk gonna be above enha

[urban skiff]

won't stay rare

same with dk

[exotic forge]

How is frost dk s tier

Genuinely curious

[urban skiff]

it's made before they announced nerfs

[green wharf]

i got killedby a 3million slicing wind from a monk

wtf

[wheat jay]

lmao

get skilldiffed

also

[exotic forge]

Get sliced fool

[wheat jay]

this is why dks get shat on

[urban skiff]

reminder they only nerfed remorseless winter by 45%

[exotic forge]

Oh so that's why

Wild

[wheat jay]

and its still going to be broken lol

warr doing 2mil normal hit mortals

[exotic forge]

[wheat jay]

like

all the nerfs were deserved

[urban skiff]

hp pools will go up by 4m+ before we have full conq

[wheat jay]

ye

damage will go up too

[urban skiff]

30% mainstat

[wheat jay]

ye

[exotic forge]

Trinket bonus is getting buffed too

[wheat jay]

and rn warr can demolish into ms 100-0 someone

[urban skiff]

that too

[wheat jay]

so the nerfs are deserved, as much as you all dont like htat

[exotic forge]

I'm okay with nerfs, as long as Warr remains viable

And it will

[urban skiff]

i don't think anyone is complaining about th enerfs

[wheat jay]

warr is always viable

[exotic forge]

We're slowly drifting away from martial prowess

So that's a good step

[green wharf]

its all right cause no one is going to play colossus seriouslly

[wheat jay]

everyone will tho

if its better

[green wharf]

are we entertaining there is a possibility of that

or are you memeing

[wheat jay]

if it does more dmg

people will play it

spear into demolish

or whatever into demolish

if it can oneshot

or force cds with just that

people will play it

even in s1 it wasn't bad

[green wharf]

they were pumping HARD

[hushed plank]

Can someone post the nerfs everyone’s talking about pls

[green wharf]

you only need to know that is joever

[hushed plank]

Did mortal strike get nerfed as well or only Demolish

[rancid granite]

every time i see him i think of chris delia's joke of bald guys with beards having 'upside down face'

sub S tier maybe ill swap back from outlaw til they nerf it too

we're gonna get a whole new tier list a week post s2 anyway

[sand sundial]

ele in C tier

time to play ele tbh

FOTMs gonna fuck off soon

[sterile moth]

@hushed plank MS, Demo and execute nerfed

[fierce elm]

wowhead.com

[sand sundial]

also arcane's been just getting buffed and buffed

i play it in pve maybe its an arcane angle instead of frost...

[true tiger]

ggs

but still op

[fickle forge]

Slayer sucks

[green wharf]

on these NUTS

got em

[true tiger]

noooo whyyy

[inner sigil]

GG

warrior nerfed

massive

especially arms

arms is dead again

[true tiger]

needed nerf

for sure

if they nerfed demolish and buffed exe

meaning slayer is better

[lavish quest]

I dunno

Finally seemed balanced

[true tiger]

lets see lets see

we dont know yet

untill new season

[inner sigil]

arms isnt balanced

shits back in the graveyard

[lavish quest]

I meant before the nerfs

[fierce elm]

gg nerfs its over time to uninstall blizzard dumb why my spec x spec is better its over dudes

Did I get all the points?

[green wharf]

you missed the caps, nerd

do it properly next time

[fierce elm]

fuck sorry

GG NERFS ITS OVER TIME TO UNINSTALL BLIZZARD DUMB WHY MY SPEC WHEN X SPEC IS BETTER ITS OVER DUDES

[inner sigil]

i mean fury wont be effected much

its now the same damage as s1

with rampage

[fierce elm]

WHY CANT I CRIT 3-4 MILLION ON MY MORTAL STRIKE

[inner sigil]

waa not mad abt that

still 2m average rampages

on mount

cool

[fierce elm]

WHY CAN I NOT DO 7 MILLION DEMOLISHES

I think I got all the points

[inner sigil]

i mean they coulda js reduced the crit damage

on MS

and nerfed demolish

why fat nerf

its back to ass

[fierce elm]

or just nerf the things that needed to be nerfed lmao

[inner sigil]

EXACTLY!

[fierce elm]

So we dont have absurd aids for start of season

[lavish quest]

Mages?

[inner sigil]

WHY NOT NERF FERAL

[fierce elm]

and Warrior was part of that crew

So yeah

[inner sigil]

fury i completely understand the rampage nerf

mountain thane 1 shots

rn

but

WHY NOT NERF FERAL

ITS OVERPOWERED AS FUCK

[fierce elm]

lmao

there you get the x spec is better

also they did nerf feral

fuck you on about lmao

[inner sigil]

i dont see it

[fierce elm]

They nerfed mages too

are yall cracked

Literally touched every overperforming spec that was dealing absurd damage

[inner sigil]

sunfire damage reduced by 40%

that wont do shit

m is buffed

bm

[fierce elm]

• Berserk now increases damage dealt by 5% in PvP combat (was 10%).
  Ferocious Bite damage reduced by 10% in PvP combat.*

[inner sigil]

wait nvm thats overwritten

[fierce elm]

this will though

[inner sigil]

whered you find that

[fierce elm]

Literally further down in the notes

Like what the fuck lmao

[wheat jay]

afro thinking anyone read notes

other than warr nerf

[fierce elm]

Are yall just huffing paint rn

[wheat jay]

bruh

people are too dumb here for this

[fierce elm]

Literally touched EVERY spec that had bullshit attached to it

lmao

[inner sigil]

i cant find it

doesnt say anything in pvp under it

about druid

[fierce elm]

Arms also caught a 5% execute buff net

[green wharf]

its dow below

under pvp changes

[fierce elm]

SCROLL DOWN BROTHER

[green wharf]

but those are lil pp nerfs

war and DK got the big pp nerfs

[fierce elm]

5% less damage during cooldowns is a decent nerf

10% less bites is a decent nerf

[green wharf]

we will see if its joever or if we barack next week

[fierce elm]

Feral wasnt doing the arms/dk damage either lmao

And mage caught a shield reflect damage nerf

Can we not be paint thinner huffers

is that ok

[lavish quest]

No

[fierce elm]

Like fuck me lmao

GGS ITS OVER

[lavish quest]

If you insist

[fierce elm]

Slam and OP keeping their damage is pretty funny though

[green wharf]

fuck slam

all the hommies hate slam

[green anchor]

I wish slam wasn't such a boring filler

make it apply sunder armor or something

[wheat jay]

its a filler

its not gonna suck your dick lol

[lavish quest]

Now that war is F tier again, I wonder when its gonna get buffed

[inner sigil]

nah fury is still S tier

its gonna now do same damage as last szn

[wheat jay]

so will arms

both will be S tier most likely

[lavish quest]

Exactly

F tier

Tragic

[wheat jay]

yep

[lavish quest]

Guess I'll reroll mage and enjoy eternal S tier but eternal low T

[sand sundial]

hmm arms im not so sure anymore

[wheat jay]

rn arms was #1

with fdk

nothing was even close

stun/spear/demolish was instant immunity

or overlap of walls

[sand sundial]

lets see if they reined it back enough that it doesnt warrant that much respect

so many things got buffed

[inner sigil]

arms is fucked

will do same damage now as last szn

[stuck mulch]

fucked good or bad

[inner sigil]

horrendous

[stuck mulch]

so its amazing

[inner sigil]

gotta find new builds

[stuck mulch]

stay with the build

got ya

[wheat jay]

dragna knows what's up lmao

ignore dumb doomers

enjoy wow

[green wharf]

dont play war

enjoy wow

[rancid granite]

or play war and enjoy wow

[wheat jay]

if you dont enjoy warr

and only cry

you're not a real one

[rancid granite]

lots of people play wow TO cry

its an outlet

[fickle forge]

500k to 525k Exe now 🙏

[inner sigil]

how will arms still be S tier

25% is fat thats like less than the buff arms got

more*

[rancid granite]

what if arms is A tier

[fickle forge]

Are you for real dude?

Lmao

We're still getting a 23% buff post-nerf

To MS

[inner sigil]

what

where

[rancid granite]

its in the math bro

thats where

[inner sigil]

ig ill trust it

but demo build may be chalked

[rancid granite]

what is this new lingo

fat, chalked

[wheat jay]

bro you're stupid i swear

YOU GOT FUCKTON OF BUFFS

AND THEN A NERF

FINAL RESULT IS 23% BUFF

IS THIS MATH GOOD ENOUGH

[green wharf]

ok monk

[inner sigil]

to mortal strike specifically bruh

why pressed

no point

[wheat jay]

cuz youre annoying me

by being stupid

[inner sigil]

calm ur honkers

[fickle forge]

MS was buffed by 65% bro

[inner sigil]

OH i thought it was 20

my bad

[fickle forge]

25% reduction doesn't cut that

[inner sigil]

i forgot LOL

[wheat jay]

nah nah bro, it got nerfed, haven' t you seen?

its joever

[copper fox]

Imagine thinking warrior is worse s2

[inner sigil]

I THOUGHT IT WAS 20

[copper fox]

Can people read

[fickle forge]

Arms is still a winner

[inner sigil]

I FORGOT ABOUT OTHER PATCH NOTES LOL

[wheat jay]

WE HAVE TOLD YOU ITS A BUFF OVERALL NUMEROUS TIMES

learn to read

[inner sigil]

IM DUMB SORRY

[wheat jay]

yes you are

[fickle forge]

Bro you gotta read the official notes

[wheat jay]

now go be happy with your buffs in peace

[fickle forge]

Not the 20 PTR builds along the way

[rancid granite]

people read patch notes and ignore pvp patch notes, then act like no more patches will ever come

and im here for all of it

🍿

[fickle forge]

Slam is big rn as well

Demolish is still doing more damage overall

We still getting the long stick here

[rancid granite]

you guys picking up the imp slam talent too

the 3 slam users here

[fickle forge]

I am

Doing 1M non-crit slams right now

[wheat jay]

bro im picking up cancer cells

1 per every dumb message i read here

[fickle forge]

Rend is finished

[inner sigil]

u get rend from thunder clap reguardless

[fickle forge]

Brother.

[inner sigil]

Do u not use thunder clap

[fickle forge]

My man.

[inner sigil]

teehee!

[fickle forge]

I'm talking Rend damage

[inner sigil]

durr part 2?

[buoyant chasm]

guys, honor reset next week?

[rancid granite]

no

[inner sigil]

thats only expansion end

so what yall think will demolish build still be good or is it slayer meta

[urban skiff]

I finally caved and bought a monitor arm, but I can't figure out where the perfect mounting spot is

Can someone tell me what the math is before I invent the wheel on my own

It's a gas spring arm, so in/out and up/down will alter the position of the centre

which infuriates me

[buoyant chasm]

ohh ok and Vicious Bloodstone will be the same as S1? or will be a s2 one

[urban skiff]

same

[buoyant chasm]

better to buy em now then, price will go up i think

[urban skiff]

price already has

[inner sigil]

no idea

[chilly pivot]

do we use this seasons gear for next season until we buy the new conq gear, or will be honor gear be better then what we have now?

[urban skiff]

by the looks of it the price went up 50% despite the supply doubling

[urban skiff]

honor absolutely no question

[inner sigil]

honor gear will be substantially better

[fossil mortar]

New honor gear will be better, as it will be 659 vs conquest at 679

[urban skiff]

if you're rich like me you craft honor gear out of your current gear so you don't lose enchants

[urban skiff]

665 honor

so even more

we gain 2m hp just from equipping honor gear iirc

or is it 4m?

idk

[fossil mortar]

A lot

Is the answer

[urban skiff]

for anyone wondering, the marked date is the actual start date of s1

[buoyant chasm]

well at tthe start of S1 price was like 10k each, now are at 2.5k

[urban skiff]

It's gone from 2k to 3k in a week m8

count number of total characters in your region above 1800 rating in s1, expect at least that volume has to be met in s2

And the current volume on AH is 4k

that's enough to buy 1333 sockets, or enough to fully socket 150 characters.

Unles people are holding a ridiculous amount AND are going to panic, I'd say we are going to see the price shoot up

[sand sundial]

which addon is this

[urban skiff]

https://tradeskillmaster.com/retail/eu/items/215236

[urban skiff]

ok zoomer it's a website, something dinosaurs use

🙂

[hasty pulsar]

how do rogues not break stealth from my bleeds if they vanish

i thought cloak of shadows only dispels magic dots

[urban skiff]

they're dark iron dorfs

[hasty pulsar]

i dont think they were

[urban skiff]

are they alone?

[hasty pulsar]

yeah i just was fighting one

[urban skiff]

general's cheat death provides a big shield

shields prevent dropping stealth from dots

[hasty pulsar]

was in undermine

no general buff

[urban skiff]

I think it's active everywhere?

it's probably these though

[sand sundial]

ha

[urban skiff]

@fickle forge vi har kun det skæg vi selv sidder på

Good luck google translating that

🤓

[hasty pulsar]

ok ty

[boreal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-no-one-cares-gif-18925814

Arms not needing bleeds for sustaining it's dps is always a blessed change

[wheat jay]

i always enjoy seeing direct damage compared to dots

its easier to discern if someone is good or bad

[iron fractal]

Wild strikes or Cruel strikes for fury pvp?

[urban skiff]

there's a mathematically correct answer and then there's the answer that benefits your prefered playstyle the most

there's a 50% chance they're the same 🙂

What spec are you playing?

[iron fractal]

CgEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCAAAAAAAAA0YYmhZmNGzMmZhZmZMwYmZbbMzMzswMjZMjZYbYmhZGAAAIGLbDsBmgZYCMDbA

[boreal veldt]

take cruel strikes

unless you want 2% more haste

but slayer tends to enjoy bigger execute crits so

[iron fractal]

Shame to see they changed Reckless Abandon

[frank knoll]

What’s more fun
WW, DH or Ret

[fierce elm]

fun is subjective

[frank knoll]

I know I’m asking for opinions

[iron fractal]

If I have to choose between Cruelty and Massacre, which one should I take?

[wheat jay]

i played dh and ww

both play very similar

pure fun fun id say dh, but its more burst oriented now, you do your setup, done, super straightforward, most dmg from eye beam

ww is just trickier to play, defensively and offensively

[chilly pivot]

fastest honor farm atm?

[wheat jay]

playing pvp

👍

epic bgs maybe

[urban skiff]

what did they do

[iron fractal]

It used to buff bloodthirst and raging blow everytime you used Rampage.

Now it only buffs them during Recklessness

[urban skiff]

eeeeeh

[hot solstice]

basicaly turned Reck into bigger cd instead of giving u more sustain

[urban skiff]

you need to not worry about that

over time they also buffed bt/rb base damage to be equal to whatever old RA damage was

[hot solstice]

tier set gives u lot of crit chance on bt so might be strong at some point

[iron fractal]

Now its back to using Anger Management

[urban skiff]

like the damage modifiers and stuff

[hot solstice]

idk why anger management is buffed by 100% in pvp

[iron fractal]

Can't decide if 15% more damage to raging blow while enraged, or 35% execute and 1,5 sec lower is better.

[hot solstice]

at same time I dont feel like reck is strong enough to be 90sec cd

[chilly pivot]

what is conq qap first week and bloodtoken cap?

[vivid flower]

is colossus the bees knees for arms now?

or just kinda gimick

[wheat jay]

bees knees?

[vivid flower]

im old okay

[rancid granite]

oh that's so sad

chalked is new lingo and bees knees is forgotten about

[fierce elm]

Chalked is dumb as fuck

Bees knees also kinda dumb

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-pajamas-gif-12468559

another classic

bees knees, cats pajamas > chalked, cooked

idk that dude earlier said it rofl

[fierce elm]

cooked is not good

Cooked is bad

[rancid granite]

lol

[fierce elm]

'Im cooked'

HOWEVER, 'Let that man cook' is a compliment

or "He cooked"

You could also be a normal guy who says "Thats cool"

[rancid granite]

originated from trying to be too edgy

😂

cooked is crazy it can be good or bad though

i can grasp the context most of the time but ill never use it

[boreal veldt]

To cook is human.
To be cooked is divine.

[rancid granite]

nevermind im back to being confused about it

[boreal veldt]

glad to be of help

ʸᵒᵘ'ʳᵉ ʷᵉˡᶜᵒᵐᵉ

[rancid granite]

you're cooking and i'm cooked?

[fierce elm]

Yeah

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/juan-pablo-franco-gif-10614519886998961428

[fierce elm]

get with the times old man

[rancid granite]

im still in my 30s too

[lavish quest]

I just learned sudden demise kills through cocoon

Sick

[boreal veldt]

That's pretty sudden

[lavish quest]

Mind you 70 of my HP was cocooned and it insta gibs through it

[spice hornet]

yeah its a lame ass bug

it can go through bubble as well I heard

but ive ony seen it happen to cocoon

[fierce elm]

Have never seen it go through bubble

bubble cleanses bleeds

Doesnt go through BoP either

[spice hornet]

theres a lag on the computation of when SD applies or something thats why it can happen. or at least thats the suspicion

[fierce elm]

Yes

It can absolutely bug out in shields

however full immunities ignore it

[spice hornet]

sudden death shouldnt even exist

auto touch of death has no place in pvp

[fierce elm]

Neither does a lot of bullshit

[inner sigil]

is collosus build still viable on tuesday or is it slayer time

for arms

[rancid granite]

ask afro's crystal ball

[inner sigil]

@fierce elm !!!

[fierce elm]

”You will face the reality of being incapable of predicting the future”

[true tiger]

does wow let u ingame guys?

[rancid granite]

only in goldshire

https://tenor.com/view/so-good-wink-smile-oh-yeah-its-true-gif-24163876

[true tiger]

it wont let me log in on silvermoon characters

[rancid granite]

😭

[true tiger]

same w u guys?

[inner sigil]

i hoestly hope demolish is still better

should be because final hit is reduced 30%

literally 0% increase on final hit ig

but rest of demolish still buffed 30%

[boreal veldt]

the ava+demo+ms combo will still 80-0 a lot of people even with the nerf, there's really no cause for concern

i think the biggest nerf is fury's BS tbh

[inner sigil]

true

but who tf runs slayer on fury atm

mountain got buff

still a 41% MS buff total 🙂

and auh

29% rampage buff

[urban skiff]

Shakes crystal ball...

The winds of destiny swirl, and the vision clears... The Colossus build still has its place, but the time is shifting. It seems that with the upcoming changes on Tuesday, the winds favor the Slayer build for Arms. Power is being drawn to that path, and its ability to dish out devastating damage might soon eclipse Colossus for the moment. However, every battle can change, and flexibility could be your secret weapon.

Are you ready to embrace the Slayer path, or will you hold on to the might of Colossus for just a little longer?

for anyone taking this seriously, don't ever take me seriously

[boreal veldt]

LMFAO ZercherGPT

[inner sigil]

lmfao

[boreal veldt]

skynet got him bois

[urban skiff]

I use chatgpt at work but my shortcut in the browser bar is named "The Shaman"

it used to be "The Wise Old Elf" but the reference was harder to explain

[boreal veldt]

My in house ai bot is coded to DMX cause i miss him

it always greets me with "Waddap ruff ridah"

arf arf

[urban skiff]

ChatGPT is wonderful. Project management is so much easier when I write rephrase this in a more professional manner: "Go fuck yourself"

Convinced my boss I need the big package just so I can have a session that is entirely about replying to emails. Set up once and just write what I want to write in it to get rephrases without all the fluff

I mean I told him it's because I can make it write excel files and save tons of time

[true tiger]

link best arms build rn

ima test it

[urban skiff]

Gazing into the ethereal mists, the crystal ball reveals the optimal armaments for your Armored Core in this moment:

DF-GA-08 HU-BEN (Gatling Gun): These arms are renowned for their high damage output and recoil control, making them ideal for aggressive combat styles.
GAMERANT.COM

DF-AR-09 Tian Lao: If you seek unparalleled defense, these arms offer superior durability, though they come with increased weight.
GAMERANT.COM

AA-J-123 Basho: Striking a balance between offense and defense, these arms provide solid protection without significantly hindering mobility.
GAMERANT.COM

Choose wisely, for your journey ahead is fraught with peril and glory.

Any recommendations for something that can hide a cable behind a speaker that is also low profile?

[fierce elm]

A shelf?

Tape

Zip ties

[urban skiff]

Hide it

[fierce elm]

glue, cable holders

[urban skiff]

actually that's not a bad idea

[fierce elm]

tape

[urban skiff]

I could tape it to the table just under my deskmat

[fierce elm]

Universal fix for hiding cables

only downside is cleaning glue residue off later but thats easy

[urban skiff]

that's what ducttape is for

There's a non-stick variant made specifically to not leave glue on everything after a stage show

when you tape down all the cables

[rancid granite]

ok ask it about the tuesday after next too

[urban skiff]

i already shut it down

:/

[ebon shale]

inserts slayer fury

[true tiger]

what u think

[fierce elm]

its a build

thats for sure

[true tiger]

5mln demolish on ppv dummies

ggs bro wtf

[green wharf]

One of the builds that ever existed

[rancid granite]

looks like every colossus build for a whole season

[urban skiff]

Apparently patch fucked up dummies so they use pve modifiers

Maybe its only the aoe ones, maybe its all of them in dornogal

[fierce elm]

Apparently we should never judge damage on dummies

WHAT DO I KNOW

[true tiger]

slam should be giving rage

[true tiger]

yee idk never played colossus

was playing slayer

[rancid granite]

rly though a lot of col players do same but troar / no avatar

so either or

[boreal veldt]

get rid of that massacre talent, you think you playing slayer or sum?

[true tiger]

what hsould i take instead

[rancid granite]

yeah that goes into like imp. sweeping strikes or the execute right

w/e the bottom name is

a lot of people hate it but a few people use it still

[fierce elm]

fatality

[rancid granite]

seen't it used on top of the list players

imp ss is huge tho

[true tiger]

ye ima use imp SS when im cleaving

if not

fatality seems fair

[rancid granite]

feels cool anyway, i like it

lil bursty talent for bursty colossus

[true tiger]

i think ill like colossus

lets see

[rancid granite]

as long as its at least A tier it seems like most fun option

*probably

its always that way til i get my ass kicked then i look up the meta-est cookie cutter build

[true tiger]

on players

[sharp meteor]

[true tiger]

ye demolish demolishes

testing it on full vers geared ppl

3.5 mln crits

2.2mln MSs

[elder island]

nerfs are live right?

[wheat jay]

Afaik no

[patent forum]

Nerfs are not live

Enjoy it while it lasts

[rancid granite]

no rating no enjoyment

😭

[wheat jay]

I hope they dont reset mmr

And we start at super high xD

Easy glad = good glad

[sharp meteor]

😵‍💫

always high by mid or mid-late seas

[wheat jay]

Would be nice to start high for once

Its dumb how one has to wait for months lol

[rancid granite]

YOU NEVER KNOW; it's why i love hearing people talk about like honor not resetting

its always 'it shouldn't'

as in, 'it shouuuldn't but you never know'

accidents, bugs, change of plans whatever lol

[wheat jay]

I mean, ye

The usual is that NA doesn't get mmr reset for one day

They get to crazy high ratings day one, then they stay more inflated than eu

That happened almost every season for the last 3 or 4 expansions xD

[true tiger]

marvel rivals

did that

they didnot reset ranks

actual chad company

[green wharf]

something shoul be giving rage

i hate that arms have no skill that reliable give rage like fury and prot

i forgot when mortal strike went from our builder, that gave rage, into an execute

and execute became a filler

maybe it was LEgion?

cause i didnt play WoD

[true tiger]

ye OP should be giving rage

[lavish quest]

Prob just gonna pve only for first month or two

Early on pvp, blizz plays you for a huge ass fool

[green wharf]

whirlinf/cleave should not cost rage either

hopefully the rework shifts our playstyle away from anger mangement

cause it seems like its the only reason why everything cost rage, and nothing gives

to not fuck this up in pve

[green wharf]

i will miss this

[true tiger]

i wont,fuck them fdks man

cba

[green wharf]

it was good while it lasted

i mugged a maged so hard even his momma ass froze

[violet obsidian]

Is Demolish still worth playing after the nerf?

[sterile moth]

I think it will be

[robust hearth]

@sharp meteor

[sharp meteor]

[robust hearth]