pvp

[boreal veldt]

oh absolutely, i just keep saying to report it as a bug

[boreal veldt]

i'm still trying to find what they fixed about demolish when it's still as scuffed as it was previous

like my character got softlocked by demolishing into an evoker who time stopped themselves

so thats still a thing since beta

[green wyvern]

so is arms randomly good now

sssssssssssss tier?

big

[fierce elm]

Wdym randomly

Received giga buffs, armor is low due to not having s2 gear

[true tiger]

maybe sets gonna change all those 1 shot things

cant stay in city w warmode bcs i get 1 tapped by every class

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/pulp-fiction-vincent-vega-bullshit-lies-liar-gif-17356365

[true tiger]

cmn guyss

its just animation

wont be thay bad

[rancid granite]

it's absolutely awful

[fierce elm]

it is awful

[true tiger]

zamn

how awful is it

https://tenor.com/view/sad-triste-hotel-transylvania-memes-gif-17815669965740676357

[fickle forge]

New CS animation sucks

[urban skiff]

Peak awful

I wouldn't expect something this bad even in Diablo games.

[green wharf]

It is that bad yes

[green wharf]

Like, everything about it is bad, its some next level shit

the character animation doing it, the sound of it, the spectral weapons

before you stomp the ground rly badass

[urban skiff]

What the fuck is up with the spectral weapons

I think spear alone is fucking dumb because it's not part of my warrior arsenal.

At least make it randomly use 4 2h weapons from my bags or something

[green wharf]

now you do a lame spin and hit the ground with the weapon

[fierce elm]

Spectral weapons for the ghost of arms

WHY NOT JUST GIVE IT THE STROMKAR ANIMATION

[urban skiff]

Or fucking this.

1000% sure it's a paladin animation they scrapped and repurposed.

[fickle forge]

Wait is the stomp gone too?

[green wharf]

its worse, it is an entirely new shit they made deliberately for warriors

its almost like they have no idea what arms spec is supposed to be

[fickle forge]

Arms is grounded in reality, how can you not know though

[green wharf]

yeah, you do a slow pirouette/twirl and hit the ground gently with your weapon

and some ghost weapons show up to hit too

[fickle forge]

Record and post?

[green wharf]

[green wharf]

https://nether.wowhead.com/video-stream/356666-11-1-ptr-warbreaker-cleave-animation?dataEnv=1&locale=0

its worse now too, cause the sound is different

[urban skiff]

The weapons aren't even hitting the target!!!

[fierce elm]

the lil spin into slam lmao

[urban skiff]

You have no way of knowing that. It looks like something you make with Holy light colour set. It tracks with other paladin stuff

[fierce elm]

it wouldnt make sense with paladin either

the weapon is literally spectral gorehowl lmao

[urban skiff]

Paladin already has a "ghostly hammer strikes the target from above" spell animation. i even want to say they have two. Just replace the colours with light and weapons with the legendary hammer from legion

[fierce elm]

wdym ghostly hammer

what the HELL

ITS LIGHT HAMMERS

THAT AINT GHOSTLY

[urban skiff]

Its the same shit mate. The concept i mean

[green wharf]

the visual effects are entirelly new, so it cant be old shit, and it doesnt make sense for paladins cause they use iconic warrior weapons

they also picked named weapons, that warriors who use only one weapon use, like gorehowl

it is tailored for arms, its just bad

[urban skiff]

This has nothing to do with my statement. That it started out as a paladin animation that they then swapped the weapons and dyed the sprites for.

Not existing paladin animation.

[fierce elm]

Get recycled content loser brown class lmao

[fickle forge]

Oh what the fuck is that spin dude lmao

[fierce elm]

Its Whirlwind+Slam animation into one, no?

[urban skiff]

Ok design level it screams paladin

[fickle forge]

These animators watched some Star Wars marathon beforehand and decided to go with that

[fierce elm]

I swear if you whirlwind and slam afterwards

As a paladin main

it doesnt scream paladin

[urban skiff]

Correct. So its gonna look stupid for kthuman

[fickle forge]

But why does it SPIN lmfao

[fierce elm]

lmao

To get more POWER into the slam

[fickle forge]

Can we ge the lit stomp back

[urban skiff]

Not anymore. Replace the weapons with lightbringer, swap the colours to light. It's screaming paladin so much

[fierce elm]

Doesnt scream paladin even with that

Flat out

[urban skiff]

IT was definitely designed for something else then repurposed

[wheat jay]

We play anime now

So you'll have your spin and you'll enjoy

[fierce elm]

It screams: we wanted to change something for no reason

thats what it screams lmao

[urban skiff]

M8 paladin has a spell with a giant hammer slowfalling on the target. There's precedence for paladin having a ghostly weapon strike the target.

[fierce elm]

ITS NOT GHOSTLY

I cant see Paladin having that animation

[urban skiff]

Its fucking ghostly unless you mean to tell me the paladin is pulling an actual weapon out their ass and jedi levitating it!!

[fierce elm]

Its a DUMB animation and if Paladin got it I would also be babyraging

ITS NOT GHOSTLY

Its from the spaceship Paladin has

[urban skiff]

Same shit

[fierce elm]

its the HOLY POWER INSIDE OF ME

[fickle forge]

Reminds me of this shit man

[fierce elm]

I mean yeah lmao

[fierce elm]

get REKT

I win

[green wharf]

unlikely, otherwise paladins would be getting new shit now

[urban skiff]

Who says its new

It could have been from legion and never used

[fierce elm]

Yeah it doesnt have to be entirely new

Could be everything from a scrapped boss ability to some random mob ability

that they reskinned a bit

[urban skiff]

I could believe boss ability

[fierce elm]

It can be so many different things

But like the earth smash that Warbreaker had was the best animation in the game

[urban skiff]

Specifically because it runs that stupid animation per target hit, not just centered around area stricken

[fierce elm]

in Legion

It showed clearly the radius

it was clearly showing it being used

[fickle forge]

I would even take it a step further

Let it be the overhead smash thing from Demolish combined with Legion Warbreaker

[fierce elm]

WHIRLWIND SLAM

[fickle forge]

Sorry man I forgot my small indie company cannot do that

[lucid walrus]

it still upsets me that mortal strike's animation is an uppercut

[green wharf]

and this was made by a random player in the forum:

https://i.imgur.com/i8yWXFM.mp4

[lucid walrus]

hire that dude

[fickle forge]

Yeah exactly lmao

Would be easy af to make

[fierce elm]

then do it

right now

[fickle forge]

Get me a spot on the team bro

[fierce elm]

drop what you are doing RIGHT NOW

and make it

RIGHT NOW

[fickle forge]

https://imgur.com/i8yWXFM

Just made this thing guys

What do ya'll think?

[fierce elm]

yeah where is your proof you made it

where is the watermark huh

[fickle forge]

I'm gonna watermark your ass man

[fierce elm]

do it nerdass

[exotic forge]

Cool animation and effects but this shit AIN'T YOURS GRAHHHH

Also old CS sound effect went hard

Actually sounded like smashing someone's armor to bits

[fickle forge]

Arms animations and sounds were peak in Shadowlands

[true tiger]

idk bro this 3 random aaah sword dropping animation is too much

[rancid granite]

just dont give CS an animation at all

problem solved

[hollow plover]

Just change the weapons to taeshalachs

[rancid granite]

make the weapons whatever the weapon in your hand is

ez pz

[hollow plover]

Make "anything but" tbh

[green wharf]

better idea

just revert the changes to what it was

[rancid granite]

lmao

got a mad man over here

[cloud path]

Is bloodstone for gems staying for next seson or we geting new one ?

[fierce elm]

staying

[copper fox]

Guys is warrior good in season 2?

[fierce elm]

guys why is arms suddenyl so good

whats the best gear arms slayer s2

[green wharf]

Guys, arms or fury for pvp

[rancid granite]

ive been hitting the most laggy demolishes in undermine but the numbers look cool so arms is 10/10

[lavish quest]

Warrior seems a little undertuned, when is it getting buffed?

[sand sundial]

ok i didnt know luminesence changed this season

i thought it was still that %2 shit

this kinda fucks

[fickle forge]

I thought it was 45 sec?

[sand sundial]

i think it is? cast it tooltip could be wrong

[fickle forge]

30 sec for me

This tooltip fucks hard though

[green wharf]

-15 cd if you pick the heroic leap talent

it is not

[sterile moth]

Can we buy our sockets ahead of time for next season?

[sand sundial]

yes

[sterile moth]

Thank you

[sand sundial]

im still not sold on this in arena but maybe i lack the vision

def gonna try it out a bunch in blitz

couldnt do a single game of it yday while shuffle has 2m queues

[hasty pulsar]

what colossus build you guys running do we even want to take execute related talents these days

[fickle forge]

Don't tell Blizzard @wheat jay

[sterile moth]

I personally think you do because it buffs MS by 35% stacking twice with EP

Slam doesn’t have a lot of synergy with other abilities

@fickle forge yeesh that’s massive

[fickle forge]

EP is 10% in PvP btw

[sterile moth]

Ah ok, still more synergy than slam. Are you running it? You’re really the subject matter expert

[true tiger]

did anyone get 2.4k after season ended and still got 2.4k elite achiv and tabard?

[sand sundial]

maybe not EP but I'm guessing at least sudden death

[hasty pulsar]

yeah SD is needed

to get to next node

but im dropping other stuff

im removing execute from my bars basically except for SD procs I guess?

[sterile moth]

Bajheera test build for Colossus

[fierce elm]

So exactly what people have been running minus massacre

[fickle forge]

I wouldn't pick spear though

Not without the crit dam

[sand sundial]

lololol

[green wharf]

ITs basically the same build we had from pre-patch

[sterile moth]

Pretty much, the buttons just work better lol

[green wharf]

you only switch some talents here and there that doesnt make much difference

dead spec

[sand sundial]

welcome to wow buddy

[fierce elm]

Meta-slave

[rancid granite]

he who can lift the most gets to set the meta

and nothing says meta like 'test build'

[urban skiff]

it picks up on talents that reduce heroic leap cd

[dense herald]

its not

[green wharf]

It is

[lavish quest]

Arms moves HP bars again?

Crazy

[sharp meteor]

oh my god this new warbreaker animation AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[urban skiff]

play prot and fury

it's not worth playing arms like this

I'm logging my warrior just to write feedback on that shit

[sharp meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/smash-bros-yoshi-hammer-hit-smash-gif-16289952

[lavish quest]

I think arms could use a buff bois

Should specify, Aug, not Dev

[urban skiff]

report that shit, i don't want my kids to play with someone like that

😠

[sterile moth]

Yikes. Thats just sad

[lavish quest]

Already did

[urban skiff]

also go into support and write feedback about that animation

[sand sundial]

LOLOL

[rancid granite]

rofl

awful

[urban skiff]

Anyone else playing monster hunter wilds?

I'm trying to decide what weapons to play but think I've settled on gunlance/gunlance

[rancid granite]

dudes gonna make a rage post on reddit and when he gets banned "I didn't even say anything bro they banned me for nothing"

[urban skiff]

write to the mods and give feedback on what should happen with people who write posts like that

Like banned because it's a meme to get banned for complaining about being banned

[rancid granite]

I vote for perma bans

[rancid granite]

I don't want to go back I surfed it while on the toilet and it made me sad irl

[urban skiff]

understandable

there's been a massive rise in activity on worldofpvp but it's mostly posts about "GIVE US HONOR GEAR HOW CAN WE TEST BEFORE SEASON BEGINS WITHOUT"

As if testing before the season is a right that blizzard is infringing on by not letting people just do it

[rancid granite]

it's just a live-feedback complaint form / an online journal with an echo chamber to it or some kind of madness

lot of reeee'ing

[urban skiff]

oh god you should only know

[lavish quest]

Homie clearly didn't watch the Skillcapped vid explaining why melee is actually harder

[urban skiff]

lmao

i kind of liked that video

put those casters in their place by reminding them they have the tools, if they have a problem with melee it's a skill issue, not a melee issue

[lavish quest]

Ima be honest, I thought I kept accidentally hitting whirlwind

[urban skiff]

Until s2 kicks off and 3v3 is thane prot war + fdk just melting people in the permanent root + permanent DEATH AURA

[lavish quest]

I always knew melee was harder

Casters OP

[urban skiff]

it's intuitive for melee, but not very intuitive for casters who are mid

[rancid granite]

the win trading post made me lol

"its not win trading if he offered to throw for free"

[urban skiff]

lmao

[rancid granite]

the one person who was like 'wtf?' getting downvoted

chefkiss

[urban skiff]

i wish i could get a list of people who downvote something that don't deserve it

[sterile moth]

@lavish quest I haven’t tried Thane fury yet because arms has been so much fun. Have you?

[fickle forge]

@fierce elm Frost DK is feeling mad fun bro

Assassa+frost?

[fierce elm]

Assa frost lmao

time to be aids

[lavish quest]

Aside from questing and world pvp, no

I got curious about arms

[urban skiff]

i had a dk named aids and they took it away from me

[lavish quest]

Feels chunky

[sterile moth]

Yeah arms feels good, great burst and utility that can swing a match

[sand sundial]

It is

[green wharf]

enjoy when it last

all of this means arms will be gutted and not viable when season starts

arms and fdk

[patent forum]

MM is scarier tbh

[rancid granite]

isn't all melee kinda boosted atm cause of s1 armor value

[green wyvern]

ye

[chilly pivot]

hmm hard choice

feels like the rage cost of 20 is not a problem when avatar is active, and i stil wanna prio raging blow over bloodthirst so the cooldown reduce on bloodthirst is just meh

[fierce elm]

Its a shit talent

That doesnt do much

[chilly pivot]

this should be a better alternative

[fierce elm]

Its the better one

by far

[fickle forge]

By far

[chilly pivot]

this seems like a good talent with the new execute buff

[fickle forge]

You had this talent before

[chilly pivot]

ye but we didnt use it

i think

[sand sundial]

Dog talent 24/7 all modes all the time

Sucks but it is what it is

Odyns died

[boreal veldt]

you had to run it for TRoar and our Stam node was competing with Haste node

[chilly pivot]

i get so out dmged but arms warrior omg

time to go arms xd

[copper fox]

Yea dude go arms

[boreal veldt]

It's actually shoulders and back today, arms on saturday

[fierce elm]

shoulders and back the fuck

it was back and some light biceps today

[boreal veldt]

ye i do shoulders and back > leg day > chest bi+tri

[fierce elm]

what the hell

[boreal veldt]

what the hell "what the hell"

don't kink shame me

[fierce elm]

Shoulders and back kinda sus

I do shoulders on a separate day tbf

or rather one of those mofos that do push days

[boreal veldt]

huh, i always thought it meshed kinda well with pull ups, rows, and flys

[fierce elm]

Hell no

I mean it probably does

I just dont wanna do back and then do shoulder stuff

too much fatigue personally

[boreal veldt]

oh definitely, thats why next day is legs

[fierce elm]

I just go and do whatever doesnt hurt too so idk lmao

[boreal veldt]

thats valid af lmfao

[fierce elm]

Can't do a whole lot of leg training during Snowboard season

so its mostly just rotating Push and Pull

[boreal veldt]

going down a slope with wobbly legs isn't THAT dangerous

[fierce elm]

Its like 2-3x Snowboarding per week along with 5-6 days of lifting

and now 3 days of running too

ITS BUSY

[boreal veldt]

you need an 8th day of the week with that sched

[fierce elm]

Snowboard 9-15:30, Lift 16:30-18:00, Go home eat, Go Run and stretch 21:00-22:00, go home shower, sleep

lmao

Thankfully one snowboarding day is Sunday and I don't train other things on Sundays

but mid-week just fucks me up

[hexed ether]

MS doing the Lords work.

[chilly pivot]

my pala healer got out heald xd

monk op

[fierce elm]

Yeah MW is doing some things

Did it do 600-800k ticks of Jade lightning

[wheat jay]

i wonder how dmg profiles will change with full gear

[fierce elm]

a lot

[boreal veldt]

celestial cond reminds me of druid convoke from SL

[wheat jay]

conduit doesnt even hit that hard ngl

for 90s cd ability

but i guess cc immunity is kinda strong xD

[urban skiff]

still have no idea what conduit is and what it does

[wheat jay]

damage

[urban skiff]

that's a really short duration

is it actually big dam?

[wheat jay]

it is big dam

but not oneshot big dam

[urban skiff]

do i want to run or

[wheat jay]

yes

its 90sec cd

its the big hitter

its like 5 ticks for 300-500k or so

[urban skiff]

I always just tanked it on my shaman and i guess never felt it

[wheat jay]

ye

it'll stay that way

just full immune to cc now

if they take the talent

[urban skiff]

eh, losing ancestral guidance is hurty

[wheat jay]

which they quite often won't

[urban skiff]

imagine though if demolish made us cc immune and we could also move at normal speeds

[wheat jay]

not like demolish is already broken as fuck

[urban skiff]

people in here can't decide

half the time it's broken, the other half of the time it's the other type of broken

[fierce elm]

If it hits its broken

if it doesnt its broken

simple formula mans

[wheat jay]

yep

main idea is, if you can land it

you get either trinket

and big cd

or you get a kill

[urban skiff]

can't remember who it was, complained about people using trinket to just walk out of the demolish

liek that isn't a really good trade

[wheat jay]

ye

[lavish quest]

Artji, am I supposed to he mailing WW now?

[fierce elm]

sounds like Kargish

[wheat jay]

looks mad strong

but who knows

maybe sth else will be even better lol

[wheat jay]

trinket for demolish is mad good trade

i just watched bicmex trinket turtle twice to avoid demolish lol

[lavish quest]

All the ranged crying so all the melee gonna get nerfed anyways

I haven't even tried demo yet. My lil arms testing has been slayer

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/Z0W8zQ-M0qM

can we just link this whenever people come in here and ignore the pins?

actually i might just edit my pin

[rancid granite]

last pin from 6 months ago

[fierce elm]

MUD sucks

does NOTHING

holy fuck

665 lmao

[urban skiff]

huh

[fierce elm]

I didnt look at what ilvl honor gear scaled oto

nor conquest gear

[urban skiff]

+2m hp lol

so we'll have +4m from now at season end

WHAT THE FUCK

OPIAJWEOØIJAWEJOIAWJE

BROOOOO SOMEONE STOLE MY TRANSMOG

[fierce elm]

lmaoi fucking rolled

[wheat jay]

not like its every draenei gooner's mog, right?

[sand sundial]

nah this one has pants

[urban skiff]

i've never seen it before

[fierce elm]

Yeah 9 heraldrys confirmed

[urban skiff]

this is mine

[fierce elm]

yeah we get 1 catalyst charge first week

so can get 2 set first week

maybe

[urban skiff]

1600 gives catalyst charge but you have to buy the base item

[fierce elm]

yeah

so bloody token item + conq item

boom 2 piece

[urban skiff]

so first week you can get 3x jewelry, token + conq tier

that's my plan, haven't watched the video past the copycat

[fierce elm]

sounds reasonable

[urban skiff]

price can't decide if it's going up or down

[fierce elm]

It was up earlier today

to like 3k

[urban skiff]

plus recraft with honor in the rest of my crafted slots

[fierce elm]

fuck I gotta spend GOLD

to craft items

on assa rogue

[urban skiff]

buy the mats now

[fierce elm]

because MASTERY

or I just vibe tbh

[urban skiff]

bloody tokens provide 2x mastery pieces in wrist/cloak and there's a mastery belt

so it's only craft boots + (i think) daggers + jewelry

bonus points for crafting hat+wrist for extra mastery

[fierce elm]

Just looking at the top dudes anyways lmao

[urban skiff]

lmao

I love the idea but I've been wanting an addon that lets me construct my goal gear and show final stats with it

I feel like they completely neglected to mention bloody token gear

[fierce elm]

thye did mention it

[rancid granite]

yeah it was their #1 thing to do

lol

[fierce elm]

Zercher is losing it rn

[urban skiff]

huh

I already lost it m8

[rancid granite]

i watched the whole video and it was the only thing i remembered

[fierce elm]

Shaman mains in s2

are losing it rn

[rancid granite]

i need bajheera to tell me what to buy per week

[urban skiff]

I'm not really losing it

but the loss of stormbringer is significantly affecting how much fun i'm having on my shaman

took away a really nice sound when pressing stormstrike

[rancid granite]

oh i see what this was now thats cool too

[urban skiff]

why is nobody playing unleashed shield?

it's both a knockback and a root

[sand sundial]

oh yeah i just remembered

as fury war you need to craft and use your tokens for double 2h

I should be able to recraft the current weapon right?

[exotic forge]

We're so back

[true tiger]

does rating matter now?

[fierce elm]

nope

[exotic forge]

Colo feels really good now

[lavish quest]

I'ma be honest

I just tried Colo

Holy fuck is it dogshit

[violet fossil]

So who’s lying

[lavish quest]

I dunno. I hated it. Its all around demolish, which if the other player is playing the game, does no damage

Even with a stun or spear hardly every actually hits them

[urban skiff]

something fucky is going on with surging totem

[fierce elm]

something fucky is going on with everything

[urban skiff]

ya don't say

but this was like a 10+ minute dummy fight and biggest hit was 640k

on dummies i used to have big crit around 1.8m

i think totemic rebound isn't working or my stacks are just never getting high enough

[spice hornet]

lawl hit this ret for a 2.5m demolish final blow into a 3.4m mortal strike

[sullen creek]

So is colossus or slayer they way as arms? Pros and cons?

[urban skiff]

am i reading this right?

6.5m dps from just one skill?

[fierce elm]

: )

[urban skiff]

this is feral all over again, i have no clue what is doing damage but something is going to die if i keep mashing my buttons

[true tiger]

bro

whats going on with lightning shield

it keeps removing itself

as buff

[spice hornet]

slayer arms shouldnt even be a thing

completely unfun hero talent dont even notice it

that applies to slayer in general ig

[urban skiff]

slayer is dumb

it's like they tried to do blademaster without calling it that

from wc3

lmao prot war go brrr

[lavish quest]

They just didn't want to give us stealth and clones

[urban skiff]

and evasion

or sorry

mirror image

[boreal veldt]

anyone else having trouble with leap while in combat?

i'll sometimes be spamming it and it just won't come out

even with a /cast !Heroic Leap command macro

[scarlet barn]

Every expansion leap pathing getitng worse

[wheat jay]

Ye leap pathing is worse now

Noticed it in some zones

Or im delulu

[sand sundial]

didnt notice yet

i think it might be just servers being terrible atm

[sand sundial]

did you play heroes of the storm?

Samuro is in the game, anyway

he has this talent that lets him and his clones do Bladestorm simulatenously

wish they did that

they could do it like Farseer and it'd be so much better

[urban skiff]

Lol, we'd never hear the end of it. Ironically we aren't getting blademaster because its magic and warriors dont do magic. Then they give us fucking spectral weapon colossus smash .

[boreal veldt]

Yeah i've been dueling in front of org and leap has been buggin out, i'm glad it's not just me

I'm just yelling at my monitor WYM NO PATH, IT'S FLAT TERRAIN

[hot solstice]

Execute with 3 stacks+fatality does less damage than draenor execute

[wheat jay]

Ye lol

I have similar issue with my abilities on monk

I use roll or slicing winds and doesnt move me at all

[boreal veldt]

back to WoD pathing it is

it happens with dragon charge too i noticed lol

[lavish quest]

I keep forgetting about slicing and slapping the button expecting serpent kick

But my lord, when I remember its there and a dmg button, she cranks and my gear is shit

[boreal veldt]

blizz been trying to phase blademasters out of warrior lore like we haven't noticed

[green wharf]

my theory is that because leap is now replaced by dragon charge

so it gets its interactions fucked

i remember warlock health stones never had an issue, until they made the demonic healthstones

[hot solstice]

I wonder how long till they remove "new" talents

[green wharf]

which ones?

[wheat jay]

Big damgur

Monk is a beast now

And it might even dodge some nerfs xD

Cuz there's plenty of other specs that just oneshot

Or just attract more attention

[sand sundial]

Ret kinda seemed mid in comparison lol

[lavish quest]

I hear ret is mid

But I also hear it has a ton of bugs

[sand sundial]

Yeah hammer is bugged to shit

[patent forum]

Hammer bugged, no reckoning, herald completely useless

Ret needs help

[lavish quest]

Bunch of the talents got bugs too

[patent forum]

All the talents besides sanc and glare feel useless tbh

PvP talents that is

Also, demolish itself is whatever

It’s all about the MS after you cast demolish

Dats big dam

[rancid granite]

do it with warlords torment and spear up

💪

[fickle forge]

Yep

[green wharf]

If ret is in the dumpster the game is a lil more healthy

[hasty pulsar]

What talent do i drop if i want to get shattering thow these days

[lavish quest]

Why? Ret was fine lol

What would you use shatter for?

[hasty pulsar]

?

[lavish quest]

Idk, its not worth it with the cast time

[hasty pulsar]

wat

Ok

[lavish quest]

Get stopped all the time, even if you get it off, by the time you break immunity they full hp

[inner sigil]

yall think arms or fury gonna get nerfed now?

or is it 1 tapping cs scaling

[lavish quest]

Melee will get nerfed

Cuz blizz sucks

[pastel swan]

Bro that shit getting NERFED

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/tonight-doom-gif-19873326

[green wharf]

they will be GUTED

[rancid granite]

everyone's pvping when they should be drifting around undermined all week

[green wharf]

i bet monk will dodge the nerf hammer

[lavish quest]

Already did the undermine stuff tho

[rancid granite]

do it on an alt now

I'm actually all caught up for the most part and did all the quests

[green wharf]

i did like 5 quests in rigging deeps and i alredy got bored to death

[lavish quest]

No, because we can't do campaign skip till we finish campaign next week

[rancid granite]

more drifting

[exotic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-car-little-girl-rock-on-drifting-slide-gif-17805774

This how I be pulling up to the Incontinental

[rancid granite]

hell yeah

at first I was kinda meh about it

but given a lil practice it's hella fun lol

I'm excited to upgrade and customize it

it definitely helps when you learn the map better too

[lavish quest]

@sterile moth Thane definitely cranks

[sterile moth]

@lavish quest haha yeah I figured it would

[spice hornet]

lol the 4 chapters are decently long.

[boreal veldt]

wpvp is actually crazy, some groups are setting up roadblocks and just waiting for people to cruise through and jump em

[fickle forge]

Say hello to my little friend mf

[urban skiff]

can't drift, i'm playing gunlance

[exotic forge]

Questing thru Undermine in warmode just reminded me how weak resolved the Horde really is

So many Alliance groups, not a single Horde fights back

[sand sundial]

That's because Horde has more casuals + NElf population alone outnumbers all of Horde pvp

[exotic forge]

^

[rancid granite]

that's epic lmao, I'm on stormrage I think we have too many alliance horde won't even try

I got jumped by multiple horde 1 on 1 tho

they can put up quite a force if they care to gather still

[fierce elm]

idk what server group yall on

Horde dominates mine lmao

[fickle forge]

Sylvanas burning that tree didn't matter in the end

[fallow solstice]

This is my first expac playing pvp - will there be a new bloody token tier after server reset tuesday or should i just be stacking honor now

[fickle forge]

Stack honor

Token are reset

[fallow solstice]

bet

[exotic forge]

What server

[sand sundial]

Horde will still have world groups

I got a bunch of wpvp achievements just 5 stacking

[rancid granite]

my guild raided org a week or so ago, like 40 members, and the horde brought out like 100 lol

server couldnt handle it

not sure the server tho

[exotic forge]

I'm on Tich and I never see any horde in wpvp

And if I see em they're getting ganged on by 5 allies lmao

[sand sundial]

you still do city raids? man im jealous

last time i did it was in classicwow

that stuff is so fun

[rancid granite]

big guild of fun people lol

wpvp ebgs etc

[lavish quest]

All my undermine phases are dominated by alliance. Because I'm horde and of course they out number me that heavy

[rancid granite]

do they bully you or are they chill

[sand sundial]

if it werent so laggy i would hang around in wpvp mode as well

havent been down at the city at all

[merry cove]

the illusion is ass u can see it on wowhead

[hushed plank]

Boring brown illusion again

[rancid granite]

could be cool

[sand sundial]

theres a live version as well

its the exhaust effect from the ingame vehicle pipes

unless you have a mechanical weapon it looks terrible

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/dressing-room#fz80z0zJ89c8a8G8s8z8q8O8b8zc8fh8M2Q8d8zh8fu8M218sc8zya8MEt8wUK8fG8M238k58zdw8zYw8dAG8Mx2877IzaWO87VzaWK87qVTG808MfJ87k

these are awesome colors tho

[rancid granite]

oh neat thanks

so s4 df was dookie brown, and now this enchant is the fart version

👍

[sand sundial]

s4 was irredeemable but if u care for transmog this enchant probably has a place within an aesthetic

%100

[fallow solstice]

Do i lose my saddle progress tuesday?

dope

[sand sundial]

I'm like %86 i think lol

[fallow solstice]

yeah im only 5% off

[hushed plank]

They dropped it from 2100 to 1950??

[rancid granite]

yeah it was like that S1 too =p

[true tiger]

worst so far

[urban skiff]

weapons also dropped from 2400 to 2100, right?

[rancid granite]

yap

[urban skiff]

I still think rewards should be based on %spot on ladder after playing 100 rounds/games

The fact that one season you're good enough for rewards and the next you're not, is fucking weird.

I mean that if duelist right now is top 3% of the ladder, you should get duelist when you're in the top3% of the ladder always, whether that's 2600 or 1600 rating

[fickle forge]

I get this, but it'd be the same case with % spots

[urban skiff]

I guess

[fickle forge]

It just depend on how many casual career challengers would be Q'ing

To inflate the glad positions etc.

[urban skiff]

I mean yeah, if you're consistently fighting with the same 10 - 50 people for your spot at the top, trippling the number of people below you would radically alter your %ladder spot

[fickle forge]

Yeah pretty much

It's what happened to me this season

[urban skiff]

I have no idea how to solve that

also not my job so

[fickle forge]

Missed R1 as arms in shuffle, but if I had gotten the same spot as fury I'd have had it

[rugged temple]

does honor reset or should we be sitting on cap?

[fickle forge]

@elfin surge Time to pin a comment saying honor doesn't reset

[wheat jay]

Thats under the assumption that people check pins lmao

[fickle forge]

Ww can use this then

[hollow plover]

My vulpera gonna look so dope

[urban skiff]

but it feels good to tell people to read the pins

step1 to getting them to do it is to have pins that looks updated. First line of the pin should be "last updated"

[copper fox]

Men

I’m maining a dragon this season

Thoughts

[wheat jay]

gay

leave discord please

pack your shit

[copper fox]

Why because I’m not a puss gnome

[hexed ether]

I’m a Dragondaddy

[copper fox]

Oh YÜS

[lone thistle]

yo
is honor transfer bugged??
and why cant i buy more conq gear to send to alts

[hexed ether]

The double jump glide is so good for immuning knock backs. The knock back to make them Los their healer into bolt and spear is nice as well.

You can also bait jumping off ledges for melee then gliding back. Most aren’t expecting that from a warrior

[copper fox]

Yea that sounds huge. Knockback is a pseudo interrupt also in a clutch situation

I always play off meta tho

I played troll and high mountain last season

[hexed ether]

I have a warrior of every race and dracthyr and orc are my favorite.

[lone thistle]

godamn

i was leveling my new lat to equip him with that

now i have 7k conquests sitting here -.-

[sharp meteor]

highmountain kind of interesting

2500 dmg off every dot tick isnt nothing

and u can cancel the bull rush charge so

[copper fox]

HM was insane. So far my favorite race to play for warr for those reasons

[boreal veldt]

can i just say... and while it's super niche...
hitting a fat 2 target cleave with fervor talent makes me feel like saurfang

[glossy island]

Bro I have replaced execute with slam and cleave we full saurfang

[boreal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/time-to-space-jam-gilly-and-keeves-shane-gillis-sleep-cop-gif-21257334

[fierce elm]

Atro what the hell

Weird

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-space-jam-get-ready-yall-ready-youll-ready-gif-20047256

[rancid granite]

Afro Atro and Aatos we'd make a cool gang

[fierce elm]

this is strange

[wheat jay]

y'all gonna play 3s?

[fierce elm]

Gonna play with myself

[rancid granite]

you can play too we'll just make a BG team

[frank knoll]

DH meta inc

[fierce elm]

x meta inc

this week man

[violet fossil]

Where that from

[spice hornet]

wait so do i have to do some keys now to get an extra catalyst charge

if im understanding, pvp and pve you can earn a catalyst charge from each?

[fierce elm]

It should be one extra

[true tiger]

share ur build for arms and fury

[fierce elm]

murlok.io brother

[frank knoll]

I may play Ret this patch idk

[true tiger]

hmm is it updated?

[fierce elm]

its the same build we ran before the patch

pretty much identical

[true tiger]

okay thanku

many class changed

so havenot tested war yet

[fierce elm]

Yeah its pretty much the same builds pre-patch

didnt get any huge talent changes outside of pvp talents

[true tiger]

for enha is diff why i was wondering

thanku mate

[frank knoll]

Naw Ret just looks fun and I haven’t played it this xpac yet

[fierce elm]

ret is absurdly fun

[true tiger]

ret is my fun to go spec fr

went with that build on thane idk

whatever i saw on top 1

[hot solstice]

same dude who remade paladins t2

originaly

[green anchor]

@ Wow's 30th anniversary

[true tiger]

okay bro

nerf warriors

wtf

no burst combo does same as last season burst

[sand sundial]

apparently gear issue, expected to scale back down when people can afford s2 vers gear

[true tiger]

yee i think so too

but rn everything 1 shots

[sand sundial]

honestly kinda fun

[true tiger]

ye i like fast games

[torn sigil]

Colossus prot going crazy rn

[hot solstice]

40th

[sharp meteor]

prot

[rancid granite]

yeah how's the changes kennie

i saw buffs and text but i did not read it

less spammy more dmg or something

[sharp meteor]

killin everybody

[rancid granite]

col???

[sharp meteor]

naw thane gonna try colos tho

cos it also got a ms

[torn sigil]

Prot demolish hitting 6-7 mill

[rancid granite]

prot ms? 👀

[torn sigil]

Over half of my damage profile

[sharp meteor]

storm of destruction

tied to demo but u can demo every few seconds cos

u press shield slam every second forever

[rancid granite]

oh

thats rad

[boreal veldt]

this how blizz "fixed" prot's issues?

[rancid granite]

time to read prot patch notes

[sharp meteor]

Hmm?

[boreal veldt]

i kinda skimmed the prot dev notes cause they were yappin about a lot of shit

[sharp meteor]

they decreased rage gen a bit and buffed numbers

none of which rly matters

[wheat jay]

Didnt they say shield slam spam is bad and they dont want it?

[sharp meteor]

bodyguard isnt pve thing

prot pvp gota mega nuclear buffs

only downside is no more free dragon charge in bgs

[boreal veldt]

it's ok, leap/charge pathing is scuffed atm anyway

oh wait you got free movement with og DCharge

[green wharf]

Tbh im feeling worse now compared to before patch

less procs

IP costs a lot

[lavish quest]

You gotta think about ignore pain instead of spamming it every 0.5s now

Prot wars were rivaling starcraft pros for APM

[wheat jay]

Nah impossible

You can't make me do this

[lavish quest]

Yeah, it's joever

[wheat jay]

So tanking m+ is out the window 😦

And I'm thinking this will be my last wow patch

Dont have enough time to play

[sharp meteor]

this is part of what made the spec fun so naturally blizz is like um absolutely not

[green wharf]

But Kennie

think about the old people

who cant spam buttons

cause their bones are weak

MISSING GLUCOSAMINE

[true tiger]

that in bg

[boreal veldt]

it's so cheese I love it

nobody walks out of it

[true tiger]

i got gripped in

never came out

https://tenor.com/view/helluva-boss-blitzo-sad-gif-654940053922047495

[boreal veldt]

rip

fdks are kill on sight atm

[wheat jay]

I stand in it

Pop my walls

And burst dk

[boreal veldt]

dk are pretty squish atm

[wheat jay]

Either he dies, or I die

[boreal veldt]

[wheat jay]

Usually he dies

Cuz im monk and i do 3mil slicing winds

And i karma that lol

[boreal veldt]

oh thats just free damage with karma lol

[wheat jay]

Karma breaks instantly and I use normal wall

BUT THAT DOT IS TICKING HAHAHAHA

50% on pets lmao

[true tiger]

karma has

long cd

btw

[wheat jay]

Yes

But it also ticks for 300k if they fully break it

Good trade

More dmg

[green wharf]

yeah monks are insane

there was one that almost killed me as prot

he was not even hitting me and my hp was going down

using questing pve gear btw

[wheat jay]

Its also fun lol

[sterile moth]

Yikes pretty sure I was dead wrong about slam-execute as colossus. Slam hits hard

[boreal veldt]

Come on and slam

Welcome to the jam

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/space-jam-warner-bros-looney-tunes-michael-jordan-tune-squad-gif-10465155139642410453

[green wharf]

[boreal veldt]

Oh but let us be clear, having a filler button do more damage than a 40 rage execute button, is not a good thing

[queen stratus]

do we hodl bloodstones or are they going to the moon? up to 5.8k now on my server :Stonks:

[boreal veldt]

@urban skiff you holdin your stones?

[queen stratus]

i only have like 50 but seems worth it now at almost 6k a pop

[sharp meteor]

Arms
Execute damage reduced by 15%.

[brazen rock]

go lower

[sharp meteor]

😵‍💫

[sand sundial]

link

[rancid granite]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/season-2-class-tuning-incoming-march-4th-375381

[copper fox]

Gdi

[hot solstice]

so they dont like 3 mil mortals but ok with 3mil aim shots

[boreal veldt]

LMFAOOOO

BACK TO THE TRASH HEAP BOYS

[rancid granite]

trash heap: fury

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-kelly-always-sunny-garbage-sword-gif-19139953

[sterile moth]

Slam untouched!!! Woot

[boreal veldt]

So a 5% exe buff for arms and full on Colossus nerf

[hasty pulsar]

its over boys pack it up

[sand sundial]

welp

[rancid granite]

-think about fury again
-cry cause 2x heroic leap is gone

[sand sundial]

goodbye shuffle this season ig

[boreal veldt]

not even a peep about the talent bugs on Zerker Roar or Leap pathing

[hasty pulsar]

wait you guys been having issues leaping too? i thought it was cuz i was short vulpera or some crap

just sometimes my leap wont work

[sand sundial]

flat +%5 stam to everyone as well

[sand sundial]

yeah i played some warrior in the world and pvp some more today i see the leap bug now

def due to the dragon charge edition i think

[hasty pulsar]

something is weird with it

[boreal veldt]

yeah i mentioned it yesterday, in pvp combat leap and dcharge are bugging out

even when using a /cast ![Spell] command

it just won't come out

[copper fox]

WARRIORS GUTTED MOVE ON

jk I will suffer forever

[sand sundial]

bro why the bladestorm nerf tho lmao

they didnt buff that

the fuck

this is its 2nd nerf

[boreal veldt]

I mean all things considered after tuesday Colossus will still retain a 56% ms buff from patch launch and Slayer a 51% buff

ish

It's nothing we didn't expect, colossus will still be 80-0ing people

maybe it'll be down to 70-0 lol

execute still off the bars

[hasty pulsar]

saw u mention bladestorm nerf and was like wtf

then saw it was fury lmao

[sand sundial]

still

forgot i was in queue

[hasty pulsar]

wtf lol

[hasty pulsar]

true

[sand sundial]

either the mode is all messed up or dead

[hasty pulsar]

prob both lmao

[sand sundial]

im decently high mmr but i thought I could queue into lower ranked folks

[slow solstice]

hahh

[sand sundial]

nobodys playing this shit

[slow solstice]

im thankful for the nerfs

i wont get shot more during raid

[sand sundial]

like the lack of "average" time is a little monka

[sand sundial]

copium

[hot solstice]

bm got 10% overall dam buff

no nerfs to mm

nothing to disc priest

[sand sundial]

no ret buffs

[green wharf]

how the fuck do i drift

with this dumb car

[sand sundial]

i havent even gotten the car

[boreal veldt]

is tokyo drift theme song playing?

[wheat jay]

You gotta be dk

[boreal veldt]

I see you

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fast-and-the-furious-tokyo-drift-lucas-black-sean-boswell-gif-9472689

[green wharf]

thats me

[wheat jay]

Ye

Youre not dk

You gotta be dk

[green wharf]

is cause i dont have the turn keybind?

[boreal veldt]

Just hold jump/spacebar when you begin a turn

[green wharf]

why they didnt tell me that

[exotic forge]

Ah. Ahahahah

There it is dude

And we're getting more nerfs after that

[wheat jay]

Cuz you're not dk

[green wharf]

did you expect anything different

be honest

[boreal veldt]

I blame everyone saying warrior would be meta before s2 gear dropped

[green wharf]

even prot got fucked as well

fucuking fuck

ALL damage reduced

[boreal veldt]

@sharp meteor single handedly getting an entire spec nerfed is wild

[sharp meteor]

My bad. 😵‍💫

[green wharf]

now we have less proc

less survival

and less damage

[sharp meteor]

I 70-0'd a healer without cc yesterday.

[green wharf]

[sharp meteor]

I had hoped my spec would stay A tier for one season.

At its apex prot still wasn't as good as rogue or feral that continue to be basically statbug exploit tier

[boreal veldt]

oh wait i just realized your execute got turbo gutted

[fickle forge]

Nuke prot, send more nerfs towards prot

[sharp meteor]

nerfs gonna send me down to karanze mmr

[green wharf]

i got fucking mugged by a arcane mage and a feral druid

[sharp meteor]

(2k)

[green wharf]

if it was before i would have killed then

but i got no damn procs

[sharp meteor]

yeah bleak

oh well still sick in blitz

[boreal veldt]

warrior just a blitz class now

[sharp meteor]

warr aint even good in blitz its just the most easily carried

[exotic forge]

Nah

[sharp meteor]

rogue mw pres mage decide every blitz game

everybody else just a mogged bot that exists in the game cos nothing they do matters

[exotic forge]

I know when I'm winning as Arms that we're getting hit with the nerfbat hard

And it's not just a one time thing, it's gonna be multiple nerfs

[sterile moth]

Scalding hot take…warrior will still be good

[wheat jay]

Not even hot take

It will still do crazy dmg despite those nerfs

[exotic forge]

I mean, yeah, but the nerfs are funny to see

[wheat jay]

Just deserved nerfs, thats all

Ms hitting for 4mil is a bit too much

[exotic forge]

Because they were expected ye

[green wharf]

[wheat jay]

Demolish doing 4mil or more in a combo

[exotic forge]

Enjoy what you have now

[wheat jay]

Yep

[exotic forge]

I know I will

[wheat jay]

Its still going to be crazy strong, thats all

[exotic forge]

[green wharf]

dude, @sharp meteor is the 20% on top of the 15%?

so it mens we will not kill shit

[sharp meteor]

Potentially. Probably.

Worst case scenario arms nerf also affects prot.

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-oh-fuck-omg-jesus-fatal-error-gif-16341376

other broken classes get 5% nerf, we got turbo dick

hot damn

[wheat jay]

Cuz arms was #1 broken spec now

So you get the biggest nerf spanking

[green wharf]

ok monk main

[elder island]

https://tenor.com/view/pour-one-out-so-long-bye-bye-gif-19569425

[sharp meteor]

I just wanted Warr to be like 70-80% as good as Rogue for like one season.

[green wharf]

meanwhile, lets buff mages a bit

[wheat jay]

I also got nerfed cD

20% to slicing winds 😦

[boreal veldt]

getting cc'd mid movement in winds gonna hurt

[patent forum]

Wait

Where’s the MM nerf

[green wharf]

too low considering how they gutted the others

[iron nacelle]

kekw

[green wharf]

hunters are garbo so far

[patent forum]

2.5 mil aimed shot is working as intended?

[green wharf]

i mean

[patent forum]

MM def isn’t garbo

[green wharf]

comparing to 4m mortal strikes

kinda

[patent forum]

Yeah but they have double tap

So it’s actually more

[wheat jay]

Dont know what you mean

[patent forum]

And they’re ranged

And they have real cc

[boreal veldt]

25% of 4mill is 1mill so we're still ahead

[wheat jay]

Post nerf slicing wind will hit for like 1.1mil

[green wharf]

the nerf on Monk was too low

considering they overned the others

[wheat jay]

At best

[patent forum]

Overpowered barrier still seems strong at 60%

[exotic forge]

As long as scatter can be broken with BR I'm okay with nerfs if they're not too significant

[patent forum]

Welp, colossus was fun for a bit

Back to slayer

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/never-it-never-was-it-never-w-ill-be-gif-8828128

game was so good, until they make me go to this lil bitch again

[boreal veldt]

Slam Central

[exotic forge]

Welcome to the slam

[lavish quest]

We're nerfed

GGs

[green wharf]

Hey guys

Arms or fury for pvp

in tww

[river walrus]

ret pally

[copper fox]

Dude I hate onslaught

[green wharf]

why

[urban skiff]

still holding, but might give in soon

6k was my goal, 8k is great

it might potentially crash still after season start and all the holders try to empty inventory

[urban skiff]

guess you had an event because on EU it was stable

haha, remember how everyone cried that warrior would be OP forever and ever?

didn't even make it into the season before we got reeled in

I love it when doomsayers are wrong

[sharp meteor]

i killed a rogue and knew our days were numbered

[urban skiff]

Fdk also got put in their place

even feral

idk what the deal is with enh but apparently overtuned so much in pve that we probably won't see a lot of use in pvp without some specific changes

[green wharf]

feral got a slap on the wrist

[urban skiff]

pretty big slap bro