pvp

[dense herald]

dh does more dmg

[fierce elm]

You mean like literally everyone else

[nimble jasper]

idk isnt slayer better

into non cleaves

[urban skiff]

got my wife up to 1730ish and now we're running recovery again again

[fickle forge]

Beat up the girls

[fierce elm]

Its 50/50 pretty much lmao

[dense herald]

yes

[fierce elm]

You can run thane into everything

Also bros, if you are still using regular whey protein

[wheat jay]

1. It doesn't.
2. Dh is the single worst class in the game for pvp

[fierce elm]

you need to reconsider your life

Clear Whey is the fucking thing

[urban skiff]

whey is the way

[fierce elm]

its the thing

[wheat jay]

You can stun eye beam and dh does 0 dmg

[dense herald]

i was playing ret warrior dh was 900k dps

[urban skiff]

Bro bodylab's ultimate chocolate is the best powder

[wheat jay]

Cuz you're both dogshit

[fierce elm]

Clear whey = delicious, refreshing, less cals with same protein, not heavy at all, can sip

Bodylabs clear whey is better

trust

[wheat jay]

Stun eye beam

And dh does 0 dmg

[urban skiff]

stop traumatizing me

[fierce elm]

GF ordered a 12 pack taste pack

[nimble jasper]

thane you spend 2 more points dont you

[dense herald]

maybe not 900k

[fierce elm]

its delicious

[wheat jay]

Eye beam ALWAYS comes after sigil of flames

[nimble jasper]

for the tclap talents

[wheat jay]

There you go, dh counter

[dense herald]

wait does disarming after eye beam make them lose dmg or nah

cuz i usually just diarm

[urban skiff]

we have all of them, my wife loves that shit

I'm too fond of choccymilk

[wheat jay]

They backflip it soooo doesn't matter

[fierce elm]

You can catch me sipping Watermelon flavored clear whey

fuck chocolate

[dense herald]

4 more

[nimble jasper]

yeah you cant chaos strike

[fierce elm]

fuck the heavy milk flavor

[nimble jasper]

or sweep

[fierce elm]

Fuck the post-bloating

[nimble jasper]

What are the other two

in the class tree

[urban skiff]

i put two scoops in 1 liter milk every morning

[fierce elm]

YEAH I might be lactose intolerant SO WHAT

[urban skiff]

zero bloat

[fierce elm]

jesus fuck

[wheat jay]

Weak bloodline

[fierce elm]

1L milk is like 4 scoops

[dense herald]

the one that makes tclap deal more dmg and the one that makes tclap hit again for 30% of its dmg if u hit 3 or more targets

[fierce elm]

Also drinking a shake fucking sucks

This shit is straight up flavored water

[nimble jasper]

you take the 3 or more talent in pvp?

[dense herald]

huh

[fierce elm]

no you dont lmao

[nimble jasper]

i know pvers run reverb

as thane

[dense herald]

i mean its good into cleaves

[nimble jasper]

counts pets i assume

[dense herald]

basicly makes ur tclap do 30% more dmg

[dense herald]

y

[nimble jasper]

not sure if it triggers lightning strikes from that hit

[dense herald]

doubt

[nimble jasper]

though would need to check whats worth dropping for barbaric

[fierce elm]

Those are the only like real special talents

[nimble jasper]

Yeah i mean you kind of need the first 2

[fierce elm]

thats about it

then change a few others around

but those talents are pretty mandatory for Thane

[dense herald]

is crackling thundereven that good

i run it but i change it out for fear dispell sometimes maybe reverb better to change

[fierce elm]

Its literally a free slow constantly

with abigger radius

reverb blows straight up

Because TClap damage isnt that high

Crackling Thunder is all about maintaining uptime flat out

[nimble jasper]

q bgb as prot

real chaotic behavior

[urban skiff]

losing an arena match that we were about to win because kid wakes up

suuucks

[boreal veldt]

report your kid for griefing

[urban skiff]

threw peppa pig at her

[boreal veldt]

lmfao

[urban skiff]

arena popped

kid cries

gonna throw the big kid into the room and hope they soothe each other

[boreal veldt]

tactical pig strike only works for so long

[fickle forge]

I wanna die man

What a trash lobby

[true tiger]

average fury experience vbs mages

[rancid granite]

poor rogue

[urban skiff]

kind of proud

wife capped 3 flags

[fickle forge]

I'm arms

[fickle forge]

No

If you can't win with frost / affli in the lobby into arms warr

[rancid granite]

that bad?

[fickle forge]

Then you're cooked

[rancid granite]

Lol

thats why i have empathy thats me in the match

[fickle forge]

I mean they're all multi rank 1s on their specs, but it's cooked you lose to arms in this lobby

[rancid granite]

i am cooked, well done

[fickle forge]

Living your best life bro

[true tiger]

even worse

[fickle forge]

It's a complete mage favoured lobby

3 BiS comps for him

And I'm stuck with facing either MLP, RLP or RMP every round

[urban skiff]

i carried them halfway for her

also i murdered like all the EFCs

It feels really good, just wish she didn't get so down in 2v2 because we're literally a couple of wins from 1800

[wheat jay]

Biceps diameter diff

[fickle forge]

His priest threw the game though

[wheat jay]

Besides the point

[fickle forge]

I hit a big Demolish on the rogue after he inted his Evasion

And then he swaps the rogue

And dispels into affli lock

Instant death

[wheat jay]

LOL

[fickle forge]

This a multi glad priest we're talking about

[wheat jay]

Nah bro, intimidated into making mistakes

All you

[fickle forge]

Lmao

I don't know if he thought his Rapture shield was gonna be big enough to save him

But we just killed him in the silence

[fierce elm]

just 200 rating left

or something idk

[fickle forge]

Roughly yeah

[fierce elm]

e z

[fickle forge]

It's getting hectic man

[fierce elm]

I bet you are sweating

[fickle forge]

In this lobby I am

[fierce elm]

not even streaming it smh

[fickle forge]

The mage is completely invincible in these comps

[fierce elm]

s m h

[fickle forge]

I know how ya'll get down you backseat mfs

[fierce elm]

LMAO

: )

Naa I am supportive of this

[fickle forge]

: )

[fierce elm]

HEY I am your biggest fan

[fickle forge]

I can stream it this weekend

[fierce elm]

Im busy

get REKT

[fickle forge]

So busy you can't watch my 50 min Qs?

[fierce elm]

lmao

[wheat jay]

I can watch while I play marvel rivals

[urban skiff]

kind of fucky to me still that 80% of players are below 1700 rating in 2v2

[spice hornet]

0 reason to play the bm hunter bracket these days with shuff and blitz existing

[urban skiff]

Is it really that bad? I'm kind of ok when i see a bm for the most part

[sharp meteor]

i mean its still 2s

usually qing up into the same bm or outlaw team tho

[fickle forge]

I stopped 2s because the 10 min matches into BM, rogue and lock made me crazy

[urban skiff]

We don't play at the level where we see the same people multiple times

[urban skiff]

Play feral

My goal is that every match must end after max 3 minutes. Win or lose.

[urban skiff]

Rather play hard and lose than play carefully and win after a long time

[fickle forge]

Not happening at high 2s

[urban skiff]

Ok but 1700 is better than 80% of players so idk what even is high anymore

[fickle forge]

Even just duelist+

2s has always been the same

You can play hunter, rogue, feral, WW and then lock and warr if they're strong enough

Anything else is a throw, unless the meta allows for double dps

[green wharf]

Its cuz you are feral

the only thing more broken than BM

[urban skiff]

Is it normal for frost mage and sub rogue to get murdered by a lone Oracle disc?

[fickle forge]

Not per say no

[urban skiff]

Damn i got run over by some rookies then

[urban skiff]

Tbh those are some fun classes

[true tiger]

play ret

its fun also

[fickle forge]

Not to play vs

[dense herald]

I miss double dps

They need to giga buff ret healing so i can play war ret in 2s

[green wharf]

What about nerfing their healing instead

[rancid granite]

reason A to go back outlaw rogue

[green wharf]

pretend to be a fury warrior?

[rancid granite]

a fury warrior with utility and guns

a fury warrior who works on mobility and gymnastics

[green wharf]

Guns? get the hell out of here with this nonsense

you heretic

[verbal tangle]

Little bro hasn't been playing PoE2 on Titan Crossbow.exe

[elfin surge]

@fickle forge have u played any ptr?

[green wharf]

Crossbow nows?

[verbal tangle]

You can play anything on Titan realistically

[green wharf]

warriors use axe, hammers and swords

[verbal tangle]

That "50% Increased Effect of Small Passives" is fucking nasty

[rancid granite]

agreed; and a sub rogue just went 6-0 stomped us all so im gonna go back sub

[green wharf]

not those hoity-toity weapons

if you want to hit someone from afar, throw your sword or a gnome on then

[verbal tangle]

Bro the Titan is a better shooty guy than Merc and Ranger lmao

Actually fucking scuffed

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-meme-funny-the-rock-talking-gif-10106062647383016451

me warrior -> get axe -> go bonk

[rancid granite]

guns 👎
throwing your whole damn weapon at them 👍

[green wharf]

exactly

[verbal tangle]

Swords: ⏬
Using a crossbow bigger than you as a chonker already ⏫

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/momoa-hahas-ax-thorwing-axes-momoa-throwing-axes-gif-2936947583443676812

[verbal tangle]

Also new Bringer of Rain is a dopamine hit

[green wharf]

the ranger discord is over there heathen ->

[verbal tangle]

imaging playing crossbow build on Ranger

[green wharf]

thats hunter

[urban skiff]

how far back do seramate titles go?

[urban skiff]

ayooo heavy bowgun

[wheat jay]

All the way back

[urban skiff]

How do I make the old ones show?

[wheat jay]

Reads blizz api and takes from achievements afaik

Oh

[urban skiff]

I have to look them up on seramate to link the characters to my current one?

[wheat jay]

No idea

Im just speculating

[urban skiff]

It didn't get some of my experience right until i looked up other toons, but having to do that on every toon i ever pvp'd on seems wild

[urban skiff]

tried looking alts up, the titles summary gets bigger but the neat list don't get longer

[elfin surge]

quit flexin

[urban skiff]

if i flex any harder we're moving into pooping territory

[sterile moth]

Is it hot in here? What a resume

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-alert-bumper-adam-devine-pitch-perfect-lame-gif-17474980

[sand sundial]

i should learn outlaw

it seems like fury warrior but leather?

[rancid granite]

think of it as

conan the barbarian vs john wick

[fickle forge]

Nah, wassup?

[urban skiff]

i can't read

[sterile moth]

Outlaw is nothing like fury

[urban skiff]

How is it then?

[slow solstice]

its just am fury

[sterile moth]

It’s definitely has a very rogue feel, you just look like a fury warrior with the swords. Now…I only played for a short period of time because I didn’t like it so I probably should have just kept my mouth shut

[fierce elm]

its pretty different

Its just afast hitting melee spec

which Fury is too

thats about it lmao

[sterile moth]

lol yep

[urban skiff]

Is there a stupid's guide to outlaw? I can't remember the 3 lines of instructions you write every time i ask

[fierce elm]

Use stuff at 5CP, use BtE with max CP only

[urban skiff]

Also in a world of Great Jagras, be a Fatalis

[fierce elm]

Vanish - BtE spam

[urban skiff]

And then i win? Or do i need to cc

[sterile moth]

Lots of stuns, stun everything…a lot

You’re like a point guard setting up your team for the dub

[fierce elm]

cc

[urban skiff]

Afro are you done with bg3 yet

Or are you going to hit honor mode

[urban skiff]

No idea what a point guard is. Is that a baseball thing

[rancid granite]

i already finished the fury vs outlaw argument

conan vs john wick

they're very similar

[sterile moth]

@urban skiff basketball position. He’s a facilitator on the court

[urban skiff]

Facilitator is the guy holding meetings but who doesn't contribute himself, right?

Idk, i only speak corporate

[fierce elm]

I think I got some exploration left

and at least one quest before I go forth to the ending I guess

[fierce elm]

Facilitator is the guy who tells you to be somewhere in order to do something and sets you up for success

[urban skiff]

I'm holding back going towards the end, i've been resetting my honor mode ad nauseum so my first play through has the perfect ending for the character i envisioned. I want my achievements for beating honor mode to be on the same day i beat the game first time too.

[fierce elm]

that is incredibly autistic

[urban skiff]

I recommend saving content for future playthroughs, keeps the game fresh

[fierce elm]

I mean I have missed a ton

lmao

I missed the prison entirely

because apparently blowing up the steel watch destroys that path

[urban skiff]

The throne or the factory? Both are neat

[fierce elm]

next playthrough is also co-op

Iron Throne

[urban skiff]

Hope you love the person you play with. And have Infinite patience

[fierce elm]

I have outright only done 3 companions

Its 4 man co op lmao

[urban skiff]

I ate gale

Beheaded karlach

[fierce elm]

So I got Wyll, Minthara I didn't get, Minsc I killed, Halsin, Jaheria

[urban skiff]

Made wyll delete mizora so he went to hell

[fierce elm]

Baezel

Jaheria is also dead

lmao

Shadowheart is dead too

and I doubt her quest ends in act 2

[urban skiff]

Yeah me too. Jaheira and minsc is dead.

This time i didn't betray shadowheart though. that'll come later

You should play Monster Hunter Wilds when you're done with bg3

[fierce elm]

I got Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 after this

[urban skiff]

Oh nice

[fierce elm]

shits BUSY

[urban skiff]

Apparently bg3, avowed, kcd2, are the trifecta that rings in the next golden age of role playing games

[fierce elm]

I mean KCD1 was one of my favorite games of all time

so that maeks sense

[wheat jay]

From what ive seen avowed sucks

Biggest complaints seemed to be lack of attention to detail, shitty npc ai, and terrible systems for leveling and player power/scaling

10/10 graphics tho

Fucking hell best fabrics textures ive seen

[fierce elm]

So a shitty RPG

[urban skiff]

I just couldn't get into it. I have no idea why

[urban skiff]

I loaded it up and played like 5 minutes. Might not be for me but haven't had the time to give it a chance in peace. I just heard a lot of people who likes bg3 and kcd2 likes avowed as well.

[rancid granite]

it sucks for being $70 lmao, if it was a $15 or $20 Skyrim indie game clone it'd be half decent

even then at $15 shoulda been labeled as early access

countless other finished, good games that are worth playing instead, might as well just grab oblivion or Skyrim

https://tenor.com/view/spit-funny-frowning-grumpy-gif-14501018

[urban skiff]

or have gamepass and play it for free

[rancid granite]

rather do anything else or play any other finished game, not even worth it for free

I'd rather boot up ps1 emulator and play rugrats in space; more of a finished game than avowed

[urban skiff]

huh

i wonder why people are praising it so much thenm

maybe it's not related to combat

i guess?

[fierce elm]

Related to the NPCs mostly from what I can see

[fierce elm]

Its a game that takes like 10-15 hours to get going

So yeah lmao

Not many like playing a useless person for 10-15 hours

[rancid granite]

👎

[sterile moth]

Has Mud fully converted to Thane yet?

[copper fox]

What does that even mean

You play thane vs certain comps

Otherwise you’re just worse than slayer vs non cleaves

[sterile moth]

Calm down there tiger, a few of us play thane into everything. He could have been joking but said he was going to try it

[ebon shale]

Idk a single other warrior who would play thane over godly slayer

[fickle forge]

I'm predicting arms meta next season

[sterile moth]

I hope so! I should have stuck with it longer this season

[copper fox]

Bums play only thane

[sharp meteor]

i feel like thane is more of a counterpick than a standard cos like slayer is just so much kill pressure and mobility

[sharp meteor]

hey dats me im bums

although tried slayer sometimes when playin with mage and it felt nice

[boreal veldt]

arms is always meta

[sharp meteor]

actually it's prot

[boreal veldt]

our kit is still pretty weak though, and new "banner" made it even worse

[fickle forge]

Nah I disagree man

Arms kit is solid

[boreal veldt]

I mean it's the same as it is now pmuch

[sterile moth]

@sharp meteor agree slayer mobility is probably what sets it apart along with an execute that can actually execute

[fickle forge]

And it's pretty good

Arms just lacks numbers rn

[boreal veldt]

Here's hoping we stay big bonking; I will say though rally and IP changes are really nice.

[fickle forge]

Demolish buff is insane

I imagine Blizz may nerf it in PvP

[boreal veldt]

shh

shush

[boreal veldt]

the mortal strikes we'll be sending out are actually crazy

[fickle forge]

Demo+MS was already doing like 65% somebody's HP

If you don't react to Demo now you just lose

[boreal veldt]

the way it always should've been

demo doing the same damage as another class's instant cast is disrespectful

[fickle forge]

Demo still doing 2.5M non-crit

It's a good button

[lavish quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1198213371154153484.gif?quality=lossless&name=ragey&size=48

[rancid granite]

wait PoE connected to it?

[rancid granite]

yeah it's weird but it works

having to wait a solid year or 2 or 3 before playing a game

lmao

even games like elden ring, which was fully complete on release and 10/10

had a ton of updates, then massive dlc to top it off

but the updates alone changed a lot

[reef sorrel]

Actually its mancleave.

[rancid granite]

crazy cause the dlc is so massive

get 2 games in 1 now

thst hammer looks huge even for a souls weapon lmao

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-2094923404622962137

hhahaha of course

[spice hornet]

@sharp meteor when we snug with Toni

[sharp meteor]

fury/prot/mw with tonis?

[green wharf]

ok, how do i play outlaw rogue

whats the rotation

cause i haave no ideawhat to do with this spec now

[hasty pulsar]

Hey guys does storm of destruction lower healing by 25% or 50% .. I swear the tooltip says 50% but only does 25% when I use it or am I wrong

[elfin surge]

it just applies mortal wounds which is 25% in pvp

[hasty pulsar]

Yes ok that’s what I thought. Some dude on twitch arguing with me about. Is this changing in 11.1 he claims he saw it 50% on some healer he was fighting

[elfin surge]

sharpen blade is our 50%

[hasty pulsar]

Ohhhhh I bet you he colossus smashed which applies sharpen automatically in 11.1

And he thought it was bladestorm doing it

Yeah he’s wrong. Ok thanks

[sand sundial]

This blows a little

[sharp meteor]

It's 50% but halved in pvp whcih is weird as an honor talent

[green wharf]

love ashran

[exotic forge]

Insignificant

[icy mural]

Guys i have a friend asking in retail if he have the achievment for season 10 arena and he want to buy the gear now for transmog is it possible ?

[urban skiff]

what gear

the elite set or the base set?

[green wharf]

shouldnt you already have if you got the rank back then

or itsnt automatic like now

[fossil mortar]

Elite sets should be automatic. Legion is part of those.
If he doesn't have them, but have the achievements, try contacting customer support and the will take a quick peek if your character is eligible.

If you server transfered since then, it is lost forever more

[urban skiff]

wait wait wait

is this a question about whether you can buy on retail if you get achievement on classic?

[fossil mortar]

There is no way ppl believe there is an overlap there

[exotic forge]

If you got the achiev on classic you can get the armor in Classic version

If you got the achiev on retail but for whatever reason you don't have the armor, contact CS Support to check if you are eligible for it

[urban skiff]

do i reset queue? it feels like i'm about to face a smackdown matchup

nevermind i guess

lmao

ret pala on his 2nd game and he looks like he got away with 3-3 first time

where team??

@fierce elm another down

27/46 rounds so significantly faster than my first characters

[green wharf]

with those q times i dont think i will get the rogue set

darn it

[fierce elm]

ITS SATURDAY STOP PALYING WOW

[urban skiff]

Saturday is the best time

[fierce elm]

naaa

I did some chores, now working out

then gf time

Ate lunch and dinner meal at the same time because I didnt have time to eat lunch

and I cant skip a meal lmao

[rancid granite]

-working out
-texting

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sarcastic-angry-doubtful-squint-gif-16461471

[fierce elm]

Resting between sets brother bear

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/mhmm-sassy-sure-yeah-right-matheson-gif-17059190

[fierce elm]

Had some girls like a few weeks ago criticize that I was resting on the bench, GF overheard them

I was doing fucking pause singles at like 165kg like LET ME REST FOR 3 MINUTES

They were also on the treadmills so idk

[rancid granite]

lmao

[fierce elm]

Out here benching their entire friend group and getting roasted because I need to rest

[fickle forge]

Did she tackle them?

[fierce elm]

no

she told me and now those girls are my gym nemesis

Have never seen them after that lmao

[fickle forge]

They gotta shittalk something to feel good man

[fierce elm]

Yeah WELL IT MADE ME FEEL BAD

Their 14 year old opinions hurt

[urban skiff]

depends on how many linebackers they have

also I accidentally overshot on my shaman and now I'm 1950

so I finally ended my streak and bricked my account

gotta start over so people think I'm forever 1800

[fickle forge]

I wanna know who the fuck sits down and decides to Q prot pala in shuffle

[fierce elm]

The same dude who goes for r1 Arms

absolute monkeys

Also probably a simple r1 title

[urban skiff]

wintraders

they're loading up right now so they can dump rating into the right target later tonight

[fickle forge]

It has to be right

[urban skiff]

That's literally it

[fickle forge]

The other prot pala didn't even press his weapons

[urban skiff]

They're guaranteed to play together

[fickle forge]

And they almost fucked it up as well

[urban skiff]

Until enough people start wintrading, then it gets fucky

so I'm assuming they load up 1-10 prot paladins with ratings and railgun their boostee past those prot paladins' ratings once it's 3.30 in the morning and nobody else does it

[fickle forge]

There's literally 700 cr diff between the prots

[urban skiff]

notice one prot pal is only 1800 rated too

[fickle forge]

Into triple pala lobby

I mean this game is cursed

[urban skiff]

You should eat some meat

meat makes all better

[fickle forge]

I mean it's so cringe man

I have to kill these losers 8 times over

Trying to get through 5 BoPs and double lay

[wheat jay]

🙂

love this game

[lavish quest]

Ww op

[wheat jay]

ye i lost

😦

i peaked 2436 tho

first time ww xD

ww op i guess

[lavish quest]

Fotm rerolling and still losing smh...

But congratso

[fierce elm]

You ever wonder how many times Artji will say first time WW

and mention that he has hit elite

[lavish quest]

Its okay, I'm still a first time warrior

[wheat jay]

many

[lavish quest]

With legend

[wheat jay]

❤️

for as long as this is my first season on ww

that's fair, isnt it?

[fierce elm]

first tiem PC

first time playing a game

[lavish quest]

Never played mop huh?

Missed out on the peak

[fierce elm]

Yeah I never played the computer

[fickle forge]

Sanity 📉

[sand sundial]

imagine

your first ever game is wow pvp lmao

[urban skiff]

did you win

[urban skiff]

this is my first season as enh too

I guess technically not, but last time i played shaman in arenas we still had arena teams

Our team was called pingpong, moonkin + ele just typhooning and thunderstorming people around all day

[fickle forge]

No

[fierce elm]

this is my first season playing the game

[urban skiff]

did you have fun?

[fickle forge]

What do you think man

[urban skiff]

I think you timed shattering throw to immediately end the paladin and had a lot of fun because you could do that almost every match

like a true r1 player

[fickle forge]

You don't pick shatter so

[urban skiff]

lmao no

sounds like extra binds

i just pick stormstrike

[sand sundial]

Getting other class armor sets has been a good exp

Definitely made me a better player

[urban skiff]

true

[fickle forge]

I mean it's just the same shit every time man

For every paladin in the lobby, whatever I am trying to kill gets 3 more health bars

[urban skiff]

kind of wish there was a cost associated with being able to fill up health bars that many times

Lifeswap is a great example of something with a cost

[fickle forge]

The drawback used to be forbearance

But that doesn't matter anymore cause they can bubble during it

[urban skiff]

yea exactly

[fickle forge]

Like I'll press WB

Roar

Demo

And the Hpala just double BoPs and I'm stuck there looking like a complete idiot for 10 seconds

[urban skiff]

am i famous now?

Karanze how many people check you on seramate?

[fickle forge]

Idk

I got like 1.8k on checkpvp

[urban skiff]

looks like you're more famous

[fierce elm]

neeerd

[urban skiff]

Guess more people use checkpvp than seramate.

Seramate works way better for me though

[fickle forge]

Seramate is newer

[fierce elm]

Dont get to see Haynes shitty french stream on seramate

[spice hornet]

Lmfao

So tired of seeing that when I open check pvp

[inner sigil]

so warr iks getting nerfed?

someone js told me new forum came out about all damage nerfed by 5%

[spice hornet]

Probably pve stuff

Don’t think anyone really knows how PvP is gonna feel in max gear

Nobody is queueing ptr really

[urban skiff]

doesn't matter, play warrior because you love playing warrior. Not because it might be strong for a few days until they take them back down

[inner sigil]

we still getting those rampage buffs

[fierce elm]

they dont

[inner sigil]

??

[fierce elm]

Literally just the latest dev patch mans

flat 5% nerf on all damage

[inner sigil]

but we still getting those rmapage buffs

correct?

[urban skiff]

maybe, or maybe not. We have a full week before the season even begins where they can focus on initial pvp balancing. I'm 100% certain they use the first week to gather data on scaling from everyone gearing in pvp

[fierce elm]

As it stands now, yea

but it doesnt matter

[boreal veldt]

the nerf was because we clowned on em for the new csmash animation

fury just catching strays

[rancid granite]

lmao

[urban skiff]

normally i'm hard to displease

but holy fucking fuck that CS animation is ugly and completely ignores everything warriors love about being warrior

[fickle forge]

Yep, that's the 2nd win trading prot pala lobby today

Can Blizzard just ban this spec from shuffle already

[urban skiff]

step1 is to report it

why am i getting fucked by every frost dk

i steamroll bm hunters but can't deal with fdk?

:/

[wheat jay]

cuz frost dk is a stupid setup comp that eventually wins in 2s unless you nuke it in seconds

👍

[urban skiff]

true i did trinket a fear :()

ret disc so many

lol

[fickle forge]

I do every round man

So does everyone else

Doesn't stop them

All I can be grateful for is the fire mage lost the coinflip and not us

[urban skiff]

This is so painful

we keep fumbling when nearing 1800

I just want my wife to get her first elite set

[urban skiff]

is reflex still the go-to addon for tracking win/loss?

I feel like I need something to see the patterns

[rancid granite]

📝

remember when we'd all write stuff down on paper

info, lists, codes, doodles, whatever

[urban skiff]

that is not compatible with ADD

[sterile moth]

I took a shot at 2400….splat. 0-6 choke job

[urban skiff]

like i said, keep whiffing

😦

highest she's been is 1780

[sterile moth]

She’ll get it. It’s a hard game to learn

[urban skiff]

at least we're recovering

Sorry to warrior bro but I'm not going to stand around when you spec into warbringer

that's just toxic

new record

time to whiff

disc afflic noooo

[sterile moth]

Win

[urban skiff]

fuck YEAH

she dun did it

Ngl. I missed playing feral pvp. Just completely gave up when they added all those confusing talent points

[sterile moth]

Congrats!

[boreal veldt]

ayyyyy

[urban skiff]

just look at that innocence

[green wharf]

You know what, that might be the case

everyone said they hated

[hot patrol]

When i win 5 blitz in a row then lose the next 6. i love that

[green wharf]

they said 'yeah sure"

but didnt anything to change

and patch is next week

[sterile moth]

Even with a 5% nerf we are still getting huge buffs

[green wharf]

we will see

[sand sundial]

wait 32m on bg queue

queue pops, dominate the first fight (the minecarts)

enemy team gives up and AFKs like cucks

[sterile moth]

Sad

[green wharf]

30m q here to end in a draw

i consider a draw in a flag match with the enemy having monk and druid an absolute win

[urban skiff]

@green wharf are you done with the season yet or still pushing something?

[green wharf]

i was trying to get the set with a rogue

but im bad at roguing

i cant get used to play around vanish and shadow dance

hate this gameplay

[boreal veldt]

i think bleeds are taking the biggest hit because they really haven't touched them buff wise

but also bleeds are for nerds

so w/e

[torn sigil]

#bringbackbloodbath

[boreal veldt]

you're a madman

[urban skiff]

Sounds like you need to swap to outlaw

just to get it done

as a bonus you start over on solo progression

[green wharf]

i tried, but i dont deal any damage

and and die too fast

[urban skiff]

even with assa?

[green wharf]

especially assa

i lose before i put all the dots

hate dots

with sub i cant at least kill people and steal bases

[fierce elm]

If he doesnt know how to play around vanish he cant play outlaw

Its pretty straigt forward for assa/outlaw

[green wharf]

yeah, dont like it

i tried to see some videos to pick up, but didnt find good ones

already knew how to do stuff with sub, so sub it is

[fierce elm]

Like whatchu confused about

You stun - bleeds - stun - bleeds - envenom to consume deathmark

or garrote - stun - bleeds - stun - bleeds - envenom if its a caster

[green wharf]

usually i die when i put the second bleed

[fierce elm]

from what lmao

Get a healer, use cloak, use evasion

The kill target cant kill you

[green wharf]

too much shit to manage, im a monkey see monkey do dude

i need to see how people do to do the same

otherwise im shit

[urban skiff]

hang on

https://youtu.be/uQPzNoV040k

Do this

Gimmick builds that work some of the time is better than perfect top-tier builds that you can't make work

@fierce elm we did it, wife got her first elite set ever 😄

[green wharf]

shit i so wild i dont even know what he is doing tbh

[urban skiff]

I can't focus because of the cringy dragonball shit in the background

[green wharf]

im rpetty sure is naruto

and i cant copy his talents for some reason

[urban skiff]

yea i know

[urban skiff]

it worked for me, but i only tried in wowhead

[green wharf]

not playing with sudden demise?

[urban skiff]

i have zero idea of anything rogue related

despite having played rogue since tbc

Can't remember when they lost me, or if they ever had me in the first place. Feral was always more natural

[green wharf]

i was a pretty ok rogue back in wod/bfa

[urban skiff]

https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Blackmoore/Shrèéd

[green wharf]

but i cant do shit with vanish playstyle

[urban skiff]

Lol ok take this with a thousand grain of salts, that's his rogue

I won an arena last night by using incarnation+prowl at 1% hp, got lifeswapped while I was in stealth and they sort of stopped moving for a few seconds

I think they thought I was dead

mage didn't even have time to iceblock, that's how fast it went

Oooooooh this is the second video, he explains how it works in the first rogue video

[green wharf]

still kinda sus not gonna lie

maybe it works better in arena

[urban skiff]

i think it's a complete gimmick and only works when people aren't ready

much like bdk 1shot that worked for a few weeks

[green wharf]

his rankings dont give much credit either

and his macro doesnt work

[urban skiff]

how doesn't it work?

you have to remember he plays on german wow client so everything is translated but probably not properly tested

[green wharf]

it only uses deathmark

but im doing decent at sub

got 1.6k now

i was able to steal and hold a base in the middle of three, due to smokebomb+evasion

annoying as fuck

[urban skiff]

Big praise, i only get hate whispers because enh is cheap and feral is fotm or something

[green wharf]

Bgs are funny, you do a big stomp cause you played well, and the next game you are stomped without doing anything

[green wharf]

how druid play comparing to rogue, do you still need to play around vanish/stealth too much?

i wanted to level up my zandadruid later see if i can do something]

[urban skiff]

Just lots of bleeding and running.

It's zoomies incarnate. I don't bother restealthing but ill use the free stealth during incarnation to mess with people targeting spells at me more than as a big stun

Lots lots lots of swapping forms and removing slows and rooting dps

If people get greedy i can immediately turn a loss into a win, that feels really good

[green wharf]

just went another bg with a letard monk not knowing he is supposed to run flags

while the other monk just get 3

random bgs should work the same as rated

meaning same objectives

[urban skiff]

Also the best part. Playing bgs with my wife, feral is the greatest fun. You protecc you attack, most important, you be the snacc

[green wharf]

otherwise people have ahrd time learning

[urban skiff]

I bet its only a matter of time

[green wharf]

she playing what

[urban skiff]

Disc

She got her first ever elite set last night. Now we can just play for fun and not worry about hitting season rewards

I'm probably repeating myself, but i'm just so damn proud

[green wharf]

i she enjoying wow

where i live games/geek/nerd shit isnt common/liked

[urban skiff]

we

we've played together forever 13+ years now

[green wharf]

blitz players are a special bunch

[rancid granite]

aw be nice; he's asking questions and trying to learn

that's rare

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-out-black-guy-tweaking-meme-gif-6022943353035016664

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/stupid-dog-exercise-gif-22332249

thats what he looks like

maybe special but hes cute, innocent, and trying his best

so you cant hate on that face

[sterile moth]

@boreal veldt colossus bleeds got a 20% increase from stacks didn’t they?

[green wharf]

no, he was a moron, cause he was talking shit about people damage

[sterile moth]

Yeah went from 3 to 5% per stack. I think the buffs might be a little bit of a hedge on blizzards part politically.

[rancid granite]

ok then screw him lol

[rancid granite]

do we get started on honor and bloody token gear this tuesday

or does that start with the season too

[rugged temple]

think more people will play shuffle or Blitz in season 2?

[fierce elm]

Let me see my crystal ball real quick

Does it matter if the majority prefers blitz

[green anchor]

I think pvp will become more & more dead

[rugged temple]

it matters with que times

[fierce elm]

So you want to predict the queue times for next season

[rancid granite]

no dooming allowed

[fierce elm]

When we will get that answer once the season gets released

lmao

[true tiger]

where do i waste my conq currency before new season?

[urban skiff]

ngl, i've asked that question before just to troll people

[urban skiff]

i think shields are still highest gold per conq point

you can also make a bunch of boxes and send to alts, hope you get near complete transmogs so you can finish those off

[true tiger]

i have every pvp gear on every class from pvp

wait which shields are u talking about?

[rancid granite]

conquest shields

buy em sell for gold

[true tiger]

oh never heard of those shields

which npc sells them

[rancid granite]

the conquest vendor

https://tenor.com/view/side-eyeing-chloe-chloe-cute-huh-what-gif-17817419

[true tiger]

are u sure

bcs there is none

checked 3 times

in dornogal

u mean pvp forged glad shields which i buy and sell to vendors?

[rancid granite]

buddy you asked what to do with conquest; go to the vendor and either get loot boxes for alts, gear for yourself / mogs, or buy and sell for gold

and best item->gold is the shield

[true tiger]

ye i thought u meant items which were giving shields in bg or smthn

now i get it

just like gliders and those web things

[urban skiff]

@green wharf

[sterile moth]

I’m struggling a little bit against melee cleaves in shuffle. Any tips?

[urban skiff]

what spec?

[sterile moth]

Fury thane actually. The healers can’t keep up. I’m too damage by a mile but lose

Actually switched to colossus arms with skull splitter and it’s better.

Was 2350 with thane trying to push it across the finish

[lavish quest]

Don't you get more gold if you buy the boxes and then wait for next season to open them? Then they are grey items for like 250g?

[lavish quest]

If you thane fury, melee cleave you just do big cleave

[urban skiff]

I can't remember the specifics, i think shields were better but I'm not 100% certain. I expect it to be the same as all other seasons

fuck yeah, logitech support rules

[thick reef]

is it just shadowlands arenas in the rotation atm?

only asking because shadowlands content for some fucking reason bluescreens my pc

[fickle forge]

Yo guys is paladin good in shuffle right now?

[low wren]

yo whats the best site to look up like what talents and enchants and stuff people are running trying to get back into pvp for season 2

[spice hornet]

Lmao

[spice hornet]

Murlok

[hot solstice]

Time to invade caster discords

[rancid granite]

feign death stopping demolish is by far the worst thing

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cry-cat-kitty-tears-gif-24106422

[wheat jay]

Me and kargish tried demolish dmg today

Demolish into ms is 80% of my hp with zero crits

[fickle forge]

I've had 29 paladins in 20 lobbies on 2.6k-2.7k

Blizzard is asking me to stop playing their game

[urban skiff]

it shouldn't, if your target dies in the middle it'll still continue casting. The final hit is a ground effect, not a targetted effect

[urban skiff]

guessing they're popular because of the many extra health bars?

[wheat jay]

2.3.-2.4 i had only 25

[spice hornet]

Yep it’s not fun. Literally have to effectively kill the target 2-3+ times over to win. Just due to the BoPs alone

Shuffle isn’t very fun as warrior

Way more fun on wizards, assassination

[fickle forge]

Because they'er blatantly broken into any melee

It's not just that they bring triple BoP

They also have searing glare

And freedom

[elfin surge]

i hate dev lobbies more than ev

[fickle forge]

Like they laugh in your face and collect the elo

[fickle forge]

I'm hoping next season Hpala will at least be tuned down so I don't get them 150% of the time

[elfin surge]

double bop is gone

[urban skiff]

Pretty sure hpal got hit by something big

[rancid granite]

so expect nerfs 😭

[fickle forge]

Everything has freedom right now man

[sand sundial]

Yup

[wheat jay]

not enough

we need hpala gone

every single healer is better to face

no matter how broken

[wheat jay]

monk freedom is fine, cuz you can reapply instantly

[fickle forge]

Whenever I get that rare full melee lobby once in a blood moon I'll take my 6-0 and then get into a deva+frost+double Hpala mage lobby and go 👋 😎

[urban skiff]

thoughts on feral freedom?

Once I swapped to fluidform macros I gotta admit, feral feels fine as fuck to play

[spice hornet]

I feel like for warrior most lobbies in general do not feel fun or enjoyable.

[urban skiff]

most warriors seem determined to avoid fun though

[fickle forge]

Holy paladins gatekeep fun

As do dragons

[rancid granite]

/cast ignore pain

a lot of people tie fun to winning though

[fickle forge]

That's kinda why we play towards R1 range

[wheat jay]

you mean changing forms?

[urban skiff]

yea

[wheat jay]

imo there should be a cooldown to get into travel form, and that should be the freedom

[urban skiff]

It's like sort of freedom but not

[wheat jay]

like 20s cd or something

and talent to allow it when you change into cat

cuz having neverending freedoms is kinda stupid

imo

[urban skiff]

I feel like feral freedom is fine, but they need to reel it in with non-feral/guardian

[wheat jay]

like i said, cd

[urban skiff]

And feral could probably do without a MS effect

[wheat jay]

same with every single spammable cc in the game

8s, or 20s cd

for every spammable cc in the game

[urban skiff]

spammable cc is too easy

throw charges at that shit

I could probably spec out of cyclone, that's how little i use it

so I'd be unaffected

[wheat jay]

not charges

cuz that still allows for chain cc

remove it

8s cd

or 18s cd

would still be fine

[urban skiff]

make it so they can't start the next cast until current cc has ended

[wheat jay]

thats still good

compare it to your cc

what's warrior cd on fear?

[urban skiff]

I'm ok with good, just remove oppressive and uncounterable

[wheat jay]

and you have to get close

dh, super long cd, super short duration on their fear

[urban skiff]

warrior fear has a stupid limitation: You can't cast it without a current target in range

[wheat jay]

meanwhile

fear/poly/cyclone

nuke that shit

nuke cheapshot spam from rogues too

[urban skiff]

Remove DR system from WoW pvp

add in the starwars mmo version of DR instead

[wheat jay]

no clue how it worked

but cc is fine for the most part

[urban skiff]

Any cc filled up a bar

[wheat jay]

its only spammable cc that's problematic

you go for a kill

SIKE

triple fear

[urban skiff]

when bar was full, you gained full complete immunity to all cc until it emptied out

[wheat jay]

triple clone

triple poly

[fickle forge]

I am not on 33 paladins in 22 lobbies

[true tiger]

just faced

wintrading healer

my eyes

[wheat jay]

you are kargish

you are

[wheat jay]

maybe he wasnt wintrading

[true tiger]

it was wintrading

there was frsot dk

[wheat jay]

i once got 5-1 in shuffle and bm that went 1-5 accused me of wintrading

[true tiger]

he was using every defensive when he was with him

and without him

he didnot use

any defensive

was behind standing still

and u telling me maybe not?

it was so obv

that dk went 6/0 bcs of that

[wheat jay]

ye, that's what im saying

send footage 👍

[true tiger]

dont have vid

just my eyes

saw it

[lavish quest]

Make sure to record some vods so we can help you with all those pala lobbies

[fickle forge]

@elfin surge Nerd react this dude so I can nerd react him

[boreal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-balance-perfect-gif-25200656

[rancid granite]

bless gonna 100-0 someone on opener and get it hotfixed in a day

[fickle forge]

Sigh

[wheat jay]

that's 36 in 23 lobbies now?

[urban skiff]

rate this then

in a ctf map

tanks, 2 bm hunters, 1 moonkin on each team

[boreal veldt]

and i'm dragging us all down with me

gonna gimmick my way through all of tww

[green wharf]

i stand by the fact stormbringer is better

[fickle forge]

Blitz

I'm dipping for a month as soon as I have legend man

[urban skiff]

MONSTER HUNTER WILDS??

[urban skiff]

if it's better why isn't it best?

🙂

[fickle forge]

Probably bowling tbh

[urban skiff]

what like actual sport?

[fickle forge]

My friends be playing bowling a lot lately

It's been fun

[lavish quest]

"Just one more bop"

[wheat jay]

where r1?

noob

[fickle forge]

R30 is what it could be

[green wharf]

it is better, the first one is only vfirst cause he is troll

[urban skiff]

i see absolutely no reason why it's better because he's troll

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/zuljin-zul'jin-dance-troll-hots-gif-13568710650629421822

you play draenei, you would not understand the drip

the rizz

[vale hare]

Is it better to have 2piece bonus pve gear (606 head and 619 legs) or both green pvp 626 but no tier set bonus ?

[fierce elm]

both green

[vale hare]

Ok th x

[lucid walrus]

i really like that part of it honestly

makes it impossible to whiff

[rancid granite]

what if they were invisible though

holding back the skill ceiling with it

[green wharf]

yeah, i would trade the never whiff part to get a proper aoe silence like priests have

that shit is wild

[sterile moth]

How we doing guys. Going to get 2400 tonight or die trying

[robust hearth]

@elfin surge i hear season 2 is the season of tanks, gonna buy u a Shiney new shield 🛡 😤 I stg

Hi @sharp meteor

[sharp meteor]

Hiiiiiii.

[elfin surge]

prot is good rn

[robust hearth]

R u agreeing to play prot next season?

[elfin surge]

god no

[robust hearth]

[elfin surge]

tank players are the worst players

[robust hearth]

Bro just try it man

U aren't gonna die for giving it a real try

I just want to see u try it like give it 1 serious push not all season but like I wanna see what it could be like in the hands of a glad player

[elfin surge]

Ive shit talked tanks and tank players for years

i cant

[robust hearth]

U shit talked fury 2 expansions ago

Yet wat u playing now

[elfin surge]

maybe blizzard needs to not ruin arms then

HOW ABOUT THAT

[robust hearth]

Bro con enough with the childishness just 1 serious try is all I'm asking

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/xC3PGHIUdTI

[thick reef]

tbf trying to keep up with boss movement or dps whilst dodging mechanics AND get your priority right

hard af

[robust hearth]

What time does season end

[thick reef]

right now

[robust hearth]

Exact time

Quit lieing

[thick reef]

at this cery moment

[robust hearth]

I need the exact specific time

[thick reef]

i have no idea tbh

[robust hearth]

@thick reef Blocked

[thick reef]

26th i think but idk the specific time

[robust hearth]

Jk I dnt do tht

but stop dat

[thick reef]

my best guess is that season ends once wednesday reset is done

[green wharf]

But wait, does the patch rolls today in monday?

i though they would wait till tuesday

[sharp meteor]

And it'll be like 25% better on tuesday.

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/wolverine-logan-deadpool-and-wolverine-lets-fucking-go-marvel-gif-5439325371406966485

its actually funny that they nerfed something in PVP, and trying to fix by giving then more damage

doest fix the issue but it will be good for pvp

[elfin surge]

just had a triple fury lobby

LMFAOOOAOOA

[sterile moth]

All I’m getting are evokers mages and paladins lol rip

And I dc’d

[robust hearth]

DC big rip

Rip bozo

[sharp meteor]

Goodness.

I haven't seen 3x anything since ret rework.

[robust hearth]

Never forget those brave souls of the retapocalypse

Dragon flight season 1.5

🫡

[thick reef]

is it just shadowlands arenas atm?

ive had 4 shadowlands arenas back to back and unfortunately, for some unknown reason my PC despises Shadowlands content and forgets how to process anything when inside of any said content

[uneven lava]

Bro i feel you!

[green wharf]

Arms will continue to be in ruins, pray that blizz dont ruin any further

[urban skiff]

in the night if you're in EU

[urban skiff]

more

I wish we had smaller shields, like little bucklers

[sharp meteor]

I wish they had good shields in general, yeah.

They're either big and clip or small and overdesigned.

Also limited color options.

[urban skiff]

The small ones are either super low quality or super theme-specific looking

[sharp meteor]

Angy.

[urban skiff]

I just want a classic looking small buckler that doesn't scream "lazer lizard 9000 dropped this"

[green wharf]

we do have a few

just need to dig then

[valid ermine]

just getting straight farmed in blitz last two days

pretty brutal

went from 14 straight wins on the 20th and 21st to 10 straight loses on the 23rd and 24th

[green wharf]

its blizz forcing you to the 50%

(i firmly believe they do that)

[green wharf]

next season i will def try to learn outlaw, dagger mogs dont amuse me

[fickle forge]

No paladins in sight

Blessed

[valid ermine]

do you guys mostly go def on twin peaks

[sand sundial]

Yeah

Escort then cleave everyone on FC

Trying to get a kill in mid initially is a good idea as well

do elite sets go away on this reset?