you absolutely demolish any other melee
#pvp
wheat jay
nah
stark agate
Other top tier classes are more sought after than fury warriors it doesn’t need a nerf
Ele needs a slight nerf and enhance needs something to set itself apart from ele
fierce elm
x class discord tryna convince everyone x class isnt top 3
stark agate
I come into PvP discord and I read people dooming about how warrior is shit it’s kinda crazy
fierce elm
So like every discord lmao
fierce elm
They are dooming over arms being bad
but they say warrior because they share one brain cell
stark agate
I don’t like what they did to arms post dragonflight
true tiger
i feel like god playinh fury,but when mage shows up i feel useless
stark agate
No reason to go arms when fury is an option atm
fierce elm
At least the majority of this channel is dooming over Arms being bad and having one unplayable hero spec pretty much
stark agate
If you want to play optimally atleast
And colo is turbo ass in pve and only ok in PvP
Sucks
fierce elm
i feel like god playinh fury,but when mage shows up i feel useless
skill diff straight up
fierce elm
yes
stark agate
They take away reck on smash and double blade storm for 2 of the most useless talents I’ve ever laid eyes upon
Not even pve takes it
fierce elm
Such is the way sometimes
stark agate
When I fight mage I go slayer barbarian with spear
fierce elm
Cant wait for the Class Dice roll in a week(?)
true tiger
When I fight mage I go slayer barbarian with spear
same but after that they just tp around freeze me and my healers somehow forget to dispell it
sitting full freezes
true tiger
im human
stark agate
Saaame
true tiger
fuck that midget race
shorter than their own swords
i know gnome is bis race for war but i dont like the way they look
stark agate
I don’t like their giant chibi heads
true tiger
not a single mog looks good on it
as human u feel like ur in game and smashing peoole around at least
berserk fanboy btw
wheat jay
i believe he means overall
green wharf
isnt the only mode people say isnt cringe
fierce elm
People will say every gamemode is cringe
green wharf
cause everyone shit on shuffle blitz and x2
wheat jay
3s 2400+
green wharf
so what we do discuss
true tiger
in ss fury is better than rogue for sure bcs rogue need calls and cordination
stark agate
My poor arms
true tiger
delete bm from game
fierce elm
So yes, Fury is arguably the best melee in the game
stark agate
Will disc just be the best healer after season
stark agate
Is resto shaman getting a glow up I forgot
fierce elm
But absolutely in SS
stark agate
Thunder is the easiest comp to play too
green wharf
outlaw still beats fury on shuffle as highest rank
stark agate
Just hit the evil red men until they die
green wharf
There is 4 outlaws breaking 3k, only one fury who did in shuffle
true tiger
lets see how arms gonna be in next season
fierce elm
WW is mid as fuck
true tiger
is it bcs less ppl playing it?
fierce elm
and yeah, Monks dont have huge rep either way
true tiger
nah bro its at least better than midenhance
wheat jay
nah bro its at least better than midenhance
lmao debatable
fierce elm
They are pretty much equal
Also this is SS
Enhance gains more value in SS than Windwalker
lavish quest
Warrior is only good cause yall are shit
wheat jay
problem with monk is in shuffle its not as tanky as in 3s due to walls being fairly long cd and class being squishy aasfuck
fierce elm
due to grounding lmao
lavish quest
You have to let a warrior win
fierce elm
The funniest part is US playing Assa and EU playing Outlaw
lavish quest
Everyone says WW is tanky
lavish quest
Just port kek
green wharf
(some forum poster on ptr)
fierce elm
Ret is pretty decent in Solo shuffle
lavish quest
Fotm rerollers, all of you
green wharf
Ret is pretty decent in Solo shuffle
I was poking that a few days ago, some forum tards were saying ret wasnt viable in pvp above 2.1k or some shit
especially in 2s
fickle forge
Yeah if you ask me dude, I think colossus is better than slayer
true tiger
2s is a joke
fierce elm
And when it is a 2s spec you begin facing cancer double DPS that blow you up
green wharf
they made a ptr thread begging for buffs
fierce elm
Ret is just pretty mid
wheat jay
Fotm rerollers, all of you
wdym?
fickle forge
At least ret is a shuffle god
fierce elm
However there is no way to change Ret in away that doesn't break the ladder flat out
wheat jay
fam nothing that i play is even good??????
stark agate
Ww is underrated in 3s especially in my opinion
lavish quest
fam nothing that i play is even good??????
And you still managed to fotm to them
Impressive
green wharf
Fotm rerollers, all of you
Im the opposite of fotm reroller, every time i decide to play a spec is shit/nerfed
fickle forge
Cause why play 3s WW when fury makes it a better comp instantly
wheat jay
And you still managed to fotm to them
i am a prophet of profit
green wharf
when i was playing MM, the hunter that was OP was BM
green wharf
when i was playing frost dk th best DK was unholy
lavish quest
i am a prophet of profit
No, I'm the investor here
green wharf
fickle forge
Cant wait to play enhance/assa next season
Don't count on my enh bro, it may be deadge with the rework
true tiger
enha is getting shitted on
fickle forge
I need to figure something else
lavish quest
Why are you guys choosing comps when yolo yuffle is the future?
green wharf
enha is getting shitted on
shaman is getting shitted on*
lavish quest
true tiger
well yeahe
fierce elm
Why are you guys choosing comps when yolo yuffle is the future?
I like 3s for learning my spec
green wharf
pretty sure they gut their defensives
true tiger
ele is gettibg massive nerf too
green wharf
and fucked primal wave
fierce elm
Gonna bust out the Outlaw/DK @fickle forge
elfin surge
its not.
rancid granite
Yeah if you ask me dude, I think colossus is better than slayer
people panic with big burst people dont take it into account
rancid granite
gotta go spear/warlords torment tho
elfin surge
joever
green wharf
rancid granite
remember when mud said colossus was the play and now he's spamming fury games
elfin surge
Mes has been asking to tsg recently, might try some with him soon.
lavish quest
Had the pleasuring of seeing him in the shuffles last week
green wharf
watermelon monster best monster, if you disagree you wrong
lavish quest
Was frost in my match
elfin surge
Unholy
Frost
Blood
lavish quest
They should convert to warriors already
wheat jay
And we play assassa+DK
THE WALKING DEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
fierce elm
<@&257983573498265600>
knotty atlas
fierce elm
ez game
fickle forge
people panic with big burst people dont take it into account
I just make it do more overall damage tbh
rancid granite
I just make it do more overall damage tbh
no spear/w.torment/crit?
or gems?
👀
sterile moth
Do or do not, there is no try
fickle forge
If I make 2.8k as colo arms, I'll be satisfied either way
sterile moth
For sure, that would be very impressive
rancid laurel
Is solo shuffle easy to get ranking?
it feels like u get rating even for being meh
rancid granite
Do or do not, there is no try
it's all about the effort, the fruit is never owed 🙏
fierce elm
you have 7 other people who can carry you
lmao
thus individual performance means less
fierce elm
yeah
sterile moth
@rancid granite I’m a football Coach, I try to get my players to understand this
fierce elm
but if you lack any skill whatsoever Blitz is probably your best option
rancid laurel
how much rating do u guys get from solo shuffle if u go 3/3 or 4/2
fierce elm
all dependant on MMR
rancid laurel
I was at low rating so I was getting like 150-250
sterile moth
Shuffle is the best game mode right now I think. Certainly could use some TLC but I think it’s great
rancid laurel
I'm at 1450-ish rating and my mmr says it's ~2k
iirc you get increased gains til like 1400
sterile moth
Just keep playing. You’ll end up exactly where you belong
rancid laurel
then it goes to a certain amount
fierce elm
its somewhere around 1400-1600
then you cap out around 96 rating gained or some shit
but it can be more
idk something like that
rancid laurel
Just keep playing. You’ll end up exactly where you belong
omw to the dumpster
sterile moth
@rancid laurel stop that negative BS. You probably haven’t played or practiced enough to be negative with yourself
rancid laurel
haha i'm just joking
rancid granite
where's the self love
rancid laurel
brother i play warrior
idk how we do in pvp
but in pve we're basically about as ass as you can get
the only classes worse are windwalker and havoc I think
haven't you ever taken a look at the talent tree and thought to yourself
"why am I locked into bladestorm?"
our class dev fell asleep
sterile moth
Honestly I haven’t even done a raid finder since I came back. Only pvp so I have no idea
rancid laurel
we were good for the first 2 weeks
then blizzard knee jerk nerfed the FUCK out of us
so hard it made all the FOTM rerollers' heads spin
sterile moth
If feels like it should be at least decent though
rancid laurel
I mean a warrior is always needed in raid, so you'll get brought along
fierce elm
Warrior is literally middle of the pack in raid
fierce elm
It's literally just mid in m+ too lmao
rancid laurel
at least frost dk got to enjoy the benefits of being strong for a month or so before getting the warrior treatment
fierce elm
This is some doom posting lmao
Warrior had its time to be top
then went mid-pack
Fury is really good in PvP, arms is below mid/mid
thats arguably one of the better results one can hope for
fierce elm
I mean, you can ask
But being mid-pack and good in some cases is how every spec should be in the end lmao
Sometimes you gotta let other classes play in the sandbox
wheat jay
It's literally just mid in m+ too lmao
i mean, all 3 specs aregood
fierce elm
Prot Paladin just took over the tank spots lmao
wheat jay
not 0.01% good, but good, even in high keys
fierce elm
Literally was top tier early season PvP, Prot Warr held the spot ast he best m+ tank for a while
THIS SEASON
lmao
Fury is literally a top tier melee spec in PvP
fierce elm
Pretty sure Fury was sitting at like high-mids when it came to Dragonflight m+
Sorry, will adjust my post
rancid laurel
it was good in season 2 before the changes
fierce elm
So yes, warrior has not been left in the dumpster lmao
rancid granite
imagine playing an A tier or god forbid B tier
rancid laurel
your argument for warrior being shit
fierce elm
Lets not look at S3 of DF where Arms was very good
fierce elm
Prot reigned supreme for more than 2 weeks in m+
rancid laurel
that's prot in early M+
wheat jay
are we talking pvp or pve?
rancid laurel
that's always going to happen due to its nature
wheat jay
cuz warrior all 3 specs are still good at this very moment
fierce elm
Look historically at Warrior and Warrior has outright been a very solid spec on average
rancid laurel
I'm a PvE main so i can only speak on that
fierce elm
Warrior is arguably one of the more babied specs out there in terms of viability and being above mid-pack
rancid laurel
yeah tell that to arms
test of might dead
battelord dead
locked into bladestorm for a single target spec
our single target hero talent is so bad that it's only played in M+ for AoE
have u guys seen 11.1 changes?
rancid laurel
yeah watch that shit get thrown out by 2nd week of season
warrior design wise
is possibly the worst it has been in a LONG time
I forgot onslaught even existed, except now that I'm doing pvp
odyn's fury is a meme
rancid laurel
arms is the premiere ST spec, only to do worse execute damage than spriest
valid ermine
Look historically at Warrior and Warrior has outright been *a very solid spec* o...
a lot of specs have been solid at least at some points in expansions
wheat jay
warr is still good in pve
valid ermine
doesnt mean warr is so far behind other classes at the moment
wheat jay
you gonna suck me off next?
wheat jay
Artji-BurningLegion
valid ermine
for you to say warrior is good
prot was pretty good this season in m+
rancid laurel
prot is ALWAYS good in early season M+
wheat jay
was overtaken by prot pala cuz prot pala is better in the highest m+
fierce elm
Dragonflight s3-s4 Warr was above pack pvp
ALL of Shadowlands Warr was above pack or the best
All of BfA (Questionable s4) Arms was above pack
There we go
PvP in its entirety for the last expansions
Did not write out s1-s2 DF because I didn't play those seasons whatsoever
fierce elm
a lot of specs have been solid at least at some points in expansions
Historically Warrior has been one of the more safer picks
valid ermine
i dont disagree with you
rancid laurel
take away battle shout and see how safe it is
fierce elm
Across all type of gamemodes
valid ermine
It needs some TLC but
rancid granite
S - Super awesome
A - Awesome still
B - Bretty decent
C - Crap don't play
D - Don't play still
F - Fk is wrong with people like kennie
fierce elm
It always has one spec that is solid
or even the best
and trying to argue otherwise is Warrior bias
rancid laurel
ofc it's warrior bias, i'm a warrior player
valid ermine
pve this season has been fucked for war ngl
fierce elm
Especially since this was just taking in consideration PvP where you absolutely aren't brought in ebcause of battleshout lmao
wheat jay
take away battle shout and see how safe it is
then it will be down to tuning, if high, take warr, if low, dont take warr, same as any dps spec if you took away their raid buff or utility lol
rancid laurel
why the fuck should shaman be ontop for multiple seasons in m+ and raid
wheat jay
why not
rancid laurel
we haven' tbeen actually good since BFA
then why not warrior
i dont get how you guys are so ok w/ warrior being ass af
wheat jay
iirc we have been good for plenty of raids and bosses
wheat jay
wasn't warrior amazing in sanctum?
fierce elm
By definition its average
valid ermine
how is it ass lmao
for a melee class id rather invite a DK over a war everytime
They bring way more utility and more dmg
In pve
fierce elm
Wasn't literally Arms more than okay in Amirdrassil
rancid laurel
i see you guys don't actually do M+
fierce elm
for a melee class id rather invite a DK over a war everytime
Thats not the argument
rancid laurel
fierce elm
You are always going to find meta-gamers in m+ and raid
because people want to optimize their 5s
rancid laurel
I've been CE for a dozen+ raid tiers
wheat jay
pretty good
fierce elm
The argument isnt will warrior get invited the argument is warrior isn't ass and anyone thinking that is coping
rancid laurel
getting solid M+ pushes on all specs every season
I know what I"m saying
if it doesn't get invited
it's ass
valid ermine
ngl arms was slapping in DF S3 raid, top dmg in fyrakk everytime
rancid laurel
I wouldn't even invite a warrior
why would I ever take warrior when enhancement and ret exists
fierce elm
Especially since this is #pvp and not #arms nor #fury nor #protection we will take this from the perspective of PvP
Where Warrior is absolutely not ass
and hasn't been in a ton of seasons
valid ermine
kinda heavy reliant on healers
rancid laurel
I play warrior to a higher-end level fo the class
and me pulling 90+ parses
is blues for others
even on our bread and butter fights like ansurek, DH, Ret and Enhance eating our lunch
fury's niche - aoe burst - nuked from orbit
fierce elm
fierce elm
Yeah
valid ermine
they doom out heaps there hahaha
wheat jay
So, maybe reroll?
rancid laurel
I'm the most positive pve player
rancid laurel
I been playing alts
wheat jay
Good
rancid laurel
seeing how mcuh value they get for so little effort
valid ermine
sharpen blade then heavy MS makes me never want to pvp on another spec
rancid laurel
The title of 'ass' will hang over warrior's head as long as its talents are in the state they are
they've actually gotten worse in 11.1
rancid laurel
we're held together by the tape of aura buffs
fierce elm
Yeah thats about every spec
rancid laurel
talents also affect pvp
fierce elm
Source: have seen my spec get it's talents reworked like 50 times in the past 4 months
and it always remaining clunky as hell
fierce elm
PvE was Ret this season, PvP Ret/Outlaw/Assa
Got my warr to 1800 and stopped
Swapping from ret next season in PvE
because I hate the divine storm spam
I do not raid
and am a casual m+ person who doesn't care
I grab 2500 and stop usually
wheat jay
So is kay but he cares
fierce elm
or I guess all 10s due to portals
rancid laurel
idk how ret was this season in pve
i know they're putting out big damage, but their prio damage is nonexistent
fierce elm
Good in lower keys, good in raid, decent in 3s, good in solo shuffle
Its all pad damage on AoE fights
that serve no purpose
rancid laurel
someone gotta do the damage
rancid laurel
I will say, in PvP i can run down most people
fierce elm
Picked Ret in s4 DF purely because Kargish was a warrior main and we wanted to do 3s
rancid laurel
solo shuffle is surprisingly easy to get rating, I'm 1670 now
rancid laurel
the first time i ever pvp'ed was the hellscape of Shadowlands Season 1
fierce elm
and you gain so much MMR and rating
wheat jay
the first time i ever pvp'ed was the hellscape of Shadowlands Season 1
Where warrior was #1 spec
By a mile
rancid laurel
good times
intervene reflecting convoke
I'm ngl, I miss arms being the premiere pvp spec
fury is braindead
wheat jay
More like condemn carrying the spec
rancid laurel
that season sucked because everyone was getting boosted
seeing a current season glad mount come out on the other side was a sign i was about to get shitstomped
wheat jay
Everyone wanted that pvp weapon lol
rancid laurel
Yeah, I couldn't loot a weapon from M+ or raid for the life of me
I killed Mythic denathrius with a 226 pvp weapon
wheat jay
Sheesh
lavish quest
But calling Warrior *ass* in <#897055819475091456> is straight up wrong
What else do you call the worst class?
wheat jay
My guild died on slg 😦
wheat jay
What else do you call the worst class?
Dh?
fierce elm
DH is fair
rancid laurel
rip to my DH brothers man
fierce elm
DH is pretty fucking ass
lavish quest
I see some DHs fuckin
rancid laurel
I see them in the TRENCHES
fierce elm
However Vengeance has some play I guess in blitz kek
rancid laurel
I complain about wariror, but thank god I dont play havoc
they are the masters of padding
wheat jay
Dh can do some good dmg
wheat jay
Ye but in pvew
valid ermine
hahahahaha
rancid laurel
gotta spread the doom
wheat jay
Where it's also good but kay is cappin
fierce elm
Are we coping warrior isn't good again
you do it in private
fickle forge
you do it in private
Cap
fickle forge
You're debating me that fury isn't best melee
rancid laurel
where being a warrior MEANT something
fierce elm
You're debating me that fury isn't best melee
I debate your mom
fickle forge
Get these doomers outta here
valid ermine
Ret these days kinda pumping and have the utility out their ass
wheat jay
Rogue better
Monk
rancid laurel
Is rogue awful rn? Haven't seen it in a single shuffle match
fickle forge
Thunder cleave isn't best ladder comp in the game, trust 🙏
lavish quest
No one cares about 3s old man
fierce elm
Assa is free rating, Outlaw is also free rating
lavish quest
Gonna start telling me what's meta in pet battles too?
fierce elm
I still claim Outlaw is better @fickle forge suck me
wheat jay
Gonna start telling me what's meta in pet battles too?
Valkyr
fickle forge
And they still fight thunder cleave every game
fierce elm
Thats what I base it on brother bear
Excuse me, actually PHP is the best comp at 1200
this makes ret the best melee
wheat jay
Your ret?
fickle forge
Fury has 20% the skill ceiling of outlaw, and its best comp rivals outlaw's best comp
lavish quest
What's worst class at duels?
fierce elm
Level 1 warriors
wheat jay
Fury has 20% the skill ceiling of outlaw, and its best comp rivals outlaw's best...
5%
20% is whole thunder cleave
lavish quest
Fury has insane skillcap
fierce elm
I literally have to brother bear
lavish quest
The skill cap is how to get into melee
wheat jay
Send
rancid laurel
I was expecting u to say you just pulled 6 plates
fierce elm
they are so fucking fugly
wheat jay
And ye shall be judged by the council
rancid laurel
only to hear ur a runner
wheat jay
Fucking hell
lavish quest
You can afford a car, and now shoes!?!! Damn, how's it being rich
fierce elm
I am anything but a runner
wheat jay
Mmm id wear that
rancid laurel
idk, they said it returns energy
fierce elm
I was expecting u to say you just pulled 6 plates
I am a 6.5(?) plate puller
rancid laurel
and banned it from marathon runners
fierce elm
something 6. something idk
rancid laurel
@fierce elm how tf did u do a 10k
rancid laurel
I die from a light 1 mile jog
rancid laurel
675+ pounds
fierce elm
worst case I die
best case I don't die
Its not like we are setting 'huge' goals either
rancid laurel
worst case you become a running main
rancid laurel
gonna start playing bm hunter too
rancid laurel
yeah ur a traitor and should be hanged
70 min 10k (~6 miles) is pretty good
if u can lift that kind of weight ur already elite
if u can run like that too, idek
fierce elm
Im just a normal dood
fickle forge
Gonna be weird to see Slimfro
rancid laurel
u prolly wont lose too much weight
fierce elm
I am intentionally dieting so my knees dont explode
fierce elm
I don't have any strength goals right now anyways
and frankly don't have the energy nor want to put in the effort to bench 4 plates which is my next goal
so can might as well just diet down
fickle forge
Your strength goal will be to reachieve them
fierce elm
I just change those things all the time
lmao
One week its to do x pullups with x weight, one week its to do x rows with x weight
rancid laurel
I can't even tell people my PRs because I can't even do like 80% of it now
rancid laurel
and frankly don't have the energy nor want to put in the effort to bench 4 plate...
gonna go back above 100kg real quick for that
rancid granite
they are so fucking fugly
nice kicks
rancid granite
running sucks 100% of the time for the first half of it
fierce elm
Im just slowly working up
rancid granite
then its great
fierce elm
Doing Couch to 10k so it's nothing massive yet
Im just trying to match the pace of what I need to hit my goal
rancid granite
🙏 right on
fierce elm
First week is like 1 minute jog into 1.5 minute walk
for 20 minutes
so it's not bad at all
My body rejects it right now due to not doing any of this for years
rancid granite
lmao no not at all walking alone is underrated too
rancid granite
but thats good to realize so you dont hurt yourself
and it sucks ass to do things but 'take it slow' it feels awful
even tho it is helpful
rancid laurel
what do u usually do for cardio
fierce elm
nothing
rancid laurel
jesus
fierce elm
I mean, nothing in the like 'typical sense'
fierce elm
I Skateboard, Snowboard, Hike, work a physical job
lmao
so I don't do typical cardio no
rancid laurel
recumbent bike is your best friend
fickle forge
His cardio is defending himself against his 3s teammates
fierce elm
also that
rancid laurel
aside from swimming, I think it's the lowest impact cardio
fierce elm
got that lung power after screaming at you guys
Cardio just blows and I wouldn't do it if I didn't have this sense of autistic pride where I wanted to prove people wrong
rancid granite
recumbent bike is your best friend
i had to google it
imagine how cool you could be afro
that could be YOU
fickle forge
After you die in a smokebomb for the 10th time
rancid laurel
nah I'm referring to the stationary recumbent bikes in gyms
but that shit does look goofy
fierce elm
After you die in a smokebomb for the 10th time
save me
rancid laurel
more like this
fierce elm
does the model come with AYOOOO
rancid laurel
you can go hard without fucking yourself up
wheat jay
only 22min?
rancid laurel
q popped
fickle forge
Not even sitting 50 min Qs
hasty pulsar
do ret paladins have a way to remove forberance or wat
just saw a pala use bop on himself and then divine shield shortly thereafter
hasty pulsar
ok dang no wonder
that is wildly dumb.. but thx
been wondering how they been bubbling while on forbearance
fickle forge
been wondering how they been bubbling while on forbearance
We gotta lower skill floor for the PvE'ers
hasty pulsar
yep heh
slow solstice
We gotta lower skill floor for the PvE'ers
?
rancid laurel
idk how they can talk
i just got 1800 in like 3 hours or something
this shit is piss easy
sterile moth
To be fair, your starting MMR is like 1950 now
sand sundial
i just got 1800 in like 3 hours or something
exactly
how do you farm conq even? all my 2s partners dont wanna queue
elite set done in hrs still gotta farm the conq set...
rancid laurel
gonna have to lfg
rancid laurel
are 3s the most skill intensive pvp mode?
fierce elm
yes
sand sundial
are 3s the most skill intensive pvp mode?
yes ofc
rancid laurel
I can tell, i get given free rating for doing nothing
fierce elm
SS also gives an absurd amount of rating while starting you at a huge MMR
rancid laurel
it's basically blizz's way of saying "just go get your pvp appearances"
sand sundial
better than having only a couple 100 mfs ever touching content
fierce elm
Yep
fierce elm
SS is the future of WoW PvP
sand sundial
same
rancid laurel
the queue time not so much
the only issue imo is when u get a bad healer
then it's auto loss when u get them
or as a warrior I have to vs a frost mage
sand sundial
they need to figure out how to incentivize more healers
fierce elm
Carry the healer better
sand sundial
or as a warrior I have to vs a frost mage
thats just RPS unfortunately
rancid laurel
bro I don't even pay atteniton to the healer
sterile moth
lol
rancid laurel
I'm dating myslef, but back when I played in Shadowlands S1 I had to play around the healer alot
fierce elm
They need to incentivize SS/blitz more for everyone
rancid laurel
constantly intervening them
sand sundial
ive been playing marvel rivals, and healer's are turbo boosted there
people compete against each other to heal there
rancid laurel
honestly let them be
sand sundial
they should get a little boosted in this game too
rancid laurel
otherwise you get the current state of M+
sand sundial
via mmr or something
rancid laurel
10000%
idc, get more healers in
even i started playing disc
never healed a day in my life
sand sundial
They need to incentivize SS/blitz more for everyone
honestly free mmr and elite sets are good step
ive got a couple friends enjoy pvp for the first time this season
sand sundial
yeah
sand sundial
freefall past 2400 in shuffle
fierce elm
and I aint sitting queue
Last time I checked Ret it was a 50 minute queue
Rogue was like 40 minutes
sand sundial
fuck all that
fierce elm
Warr was 30 minutes but its lower MMR too
I am not sitting top top either
but Ret is at like 2.5mmr
sand sundial
tbh getting top is a little crazy too
sand sundial
its the people who have been playing for many years
that sort of serve as the "gatekeepers"
fierce elm
I am guessing and predicting that their next move is giving Glad mounts to Solo Shuffle
rancid laurel
fuck it, hand over
sand sundial
they have to do that bh
rancid laurel
the only reason why i'm pvping is for the appearance and to get warmed up for next season
where they'll be giving a charge of catalyst for 1600
so I can get geared earlier for the trip into Mythic
next season's tier set looks very mid
sand sundial
godlike
lavish quest
They need to incentivize SS/blitz more for everyone
Make glad a long ass rated pvp grind. Goes faster the higher rated you are
sand sundial
nah i dont think you should get it just for playing
rancid laurel
idk at this point, pvp needs anything
sand sundial
they should get rid of the strategy of pushing at the end of the season
start of the season pvp was so fucked in terms of shuffle mmr
so people just sat down
rancid laurel
this isn't like before where there's a consistent playerbase
we see what happens when blizzard is neglectful and stupid
M+ cratered so hard
they had to nerf the ENTIRE next season
fickle forge
PvP playerbase is still consistent at high rating
rancid laurel
several times
i forget if it was Ion or some other blizz mouthpiece
had to come out and say "we're sowwy for being such dogshit balancers and designers"
"we're sowwy we didn't do our jobs properly, but if u come back next season to play, it'll be better"
@fickle forge brother that's like a few handful of people
I'm talking about the avg player
this is the current North America/OCE/LAN/BR lfg pool
fickle forge
I'm talking about the avg player
What about them
They're inconsistent in every game
rancid laurel
gotta do something to draw them in
fickle forge
Idk bro my LFG is big enough
rancid laurel
and keep them there
rancid laurel
around that time, it's morning
fickle forge
On a weekday brother
rancid laurel
even the easily queuable SS is like 15-20 min q times for me
fierce elm
Idk bro my LFG is big enough
CAP
is that why you are doing SS instead of 3s brother bear
fickle forge
is that why you are doing SS instead of 3s brother bear
It's the bracket I can play arms in
fierce elm
Metaslave
fierce elm
m e t a s l a v e
elfin surge
It's also the bracket I have R1 potential in
will kargish finally become something more? Something greater? Probably not...
fickle forge
will kargish finally become something more? Something greater? Probably not...
Probably not
fickle forge
whats the problem?
Problem is my time available
Lmao
It's final semester of uni, I'm loaded af rn
elfin surge
sleep less
fickle forge
I tried, and then I just sleep post uni for a few hours
I'm giving it some time this weekend
And then see what happens
elfin surge
stream it
fickle forge
Sure
sterile moth
That’s my big next step if I want to really get better. Need to watch film
urban skiff
@fierce elm outlaw was the fun spec?
rancid granite
it plays like fury warrior with some extra gadgets, and its 'burst' is unloading a few clips on the enemy 🔫
i got super bored with it cause it plays like fury
but 4x grapple hook is the most fun thing in the game
i went back sub but talking about it makes me wanna go outlaw again cause maybe i was just bad at it
fierce elm
<@144859308557860864> outlaw was the fun spec?
I like both assa and outlaw personally
Outlaw is harder though
urban skiff
will outlaw change significantly from now to s2?
rancid granite
assa is like ret - easy and boring
fierce elm
BROTHER
urban skiff
i might save it for s2 before trying it for real
fierce elm
Im gonna hit you with the fucking thing I hit everyone with
LET ME ASK MY CRYSTAL BALL
rancid granite
it looks to be playing the same just new pvp talents lol
fierce elm
The tier set is looking kinda nutty
the PvP talents SUCK
but its the same gameplay style
Except that you might roll more often now for full roll
fierce elm
lmao sub getting its best talent removed is so fucking funny
urban skiff
LET ME ASK MY CRYSTAL BALL
I'm not asking about balance. But they're not getting all jacked up like enh right?
fierce elm
Naaa
The removal of the sinister strike pvp talent sucks
but its e h
its not like it's changing build in that way
rancid granite
i think the only buffs on ptr are outlaw buffs lol
urban skiff
is it changing fun?
I'm probably going to try dh again in next season
instead of doing two warriors
rancid granite
is it changing fun?
telling you, fury warrior and the main dmg/burst is shooting your gun, and instead of charge/leap you get 4x grapple hook
so you can imagine it properly
but you get all the rogue gadgets
vanish->burst with gun, or cheapshot everyone
fierce elm
pew pew pew pew pew pew pew - Outlaw burst
rancid granite
damn im gonna Q some outlaw again actually tonight lol
fierce elm
Assa is fun though
urban skiff
lol what is going on
rancid granite
just dont go assassin for fun; its a noob easy build
afro is simpleminded he plays ret ofc he thinks assa is fun
urban skiff
i literally just killed a rdruid and fury at the same time somehow
rancid granite
i mean the setups can be pretty fun ngl; bleed bleed -> shadow step -> silence -> smoke bomb -> anime moment where you stand still looking away while the enemy dies
urban skiff
arms should be more bleeds focused
urban skiff
i mean the setups can be pretty fun ngl; bleed bleed -> shadow step -> silence -...
I like assa in theory
urban skiff
I don't like that the counter is to prevent me from restealth and everyone knows how to do that
urban skiff
assa do for tasty garrote right?
fierce elm
assa do for tasty garrote right?
Yeah
But you pump it regardless
You get AoE garrote and Rupture from stealh along with silence
fickle forge
I'm proud if ma man Artji
fierce elm
He overcame the boss of queueing
fickle forge
He did what he said he'd do
nimble jasper
I feel like
wheat jay
cuz i haven't read my talents
nimble jasper
0 fun
wheat jay
or abilities
at this point i still dont know what my wall does
i have two
i know what diffuse does
wheat jay
1sec
nimble jasper
does ww still have fort brew
rancid granite
i read the talents and a guide 10x i still have no idea how ww works
rancid granite
punch with your feet
wheat jay
i read the talents and a guide 10x i still have no idea how ww works
ok fair
nimble jasper
wait is ww no longer
wheat jay
so we're on the same boat here
nimble jasper
keefers legsweep dink
wheat jay
no
urban skiff
I mean literally WW is just alternate ability
sounds a lot like feral
nimble jasper
every min
wheat jay
if it was i wouldn't play it lmao
fierce elm
I mean thats literally it
wheat jay
its constant damage
fierce elm
Hit RSK, Dragon Punch, some fists here and there
wheat jay
similar dmg profile to fury i guess?
wheat jay
ayyyyyyyyyyy
urban skiff
if it was i wouldn't play it lmao
literally the same though
fierce elm
Copy pasted specs
nimble jasper
I mean sub has that too
fierce elm
Copy PASTED specs
nimble jasper
press different abilities during dance
Feral’s a spec i never touched in awhile though
fickle forge
When is a spec gonna copy paste arms so I can get an alt
wheat jay
ok so @fickle forge
fickle forge
what spec you gonna play with my ELITE WINDWALKER?
I guess we're scuffing it as warr+WW
wheat jay
nice
fierce elm
When is a spec gonna copy paste arms so I can get an alt
Blood DK
fickle forge
You're not getting fury btw
wheat jay
time to bind teleport
nimble jasper
isnt prot war
wheat jay
run people down
nimble jasper
kind of real
fierce elm
Kargish is gonna say yes then dodge
nimble jasper
this season
fierce elm
anyways
fierce elm
lmao
wheat jay
proceeds to play 2s till 3am
wheat jay
NAH BRO I GOT EXAMS
leveling 7th warrior
SORRY BRO GOING GYM THEN SLEEP
sits at gym for 4 hours watching overwatch shorts
fierce elm
weapons
nimble jasper
isnt that 24
nimble jasper
so 2.1 is weapon colors?
fierce elm
yes
nimble jasper
hmm so they dropped those from 24
dense herald
you demolish hybrids, you demolish locks, priests, and so on
well at higher rating u dont
wheat jay
You do
rancid granite
WW on new map just gonna roll off the stage 24/7
fierce elm
That convo was hours ago, we past that
rancid granite
callin it now
dense herald
once u get idk maybe 2.4k in 3s every spec will peel u as much as they can
fickle forge
Sees him queue up at 3am
That's looking like my schedule fr bro
fierce elm
It has been your schedule forever
wheat jay
once u get idk maybe 2.4k in 3s every spec will peel u as much as they can
Ye, and fury still demolishes there
fierce elm
"Yeah no I can't" then see you queue solo shuffle at 1am
fickle forge
Extra now
fierce elm
you lil fuck
dense herald
i was playing against boomie rogue i was blind stun disarm cycloned,i was in a 20s cc chain
wheat jay
Look at stats of shuffle above 2400
nimble jasper
Though when i play rogue for cosmetics
wheat jay
Tell me most popular specs there
nimble jasper
i get cc’ed the global i come out
wheat jay
i was playing against boomie rogue i was blind stun disarm cycloned,i was in a 2...
Subjective experience vs objective stats
fierce elm
was doing so well and now 2s got all sweaty again
thats stopping time
wheat jay
Fury is #1 melee
nimble jasper
also is it weird im liking thane more than slayer on fury shuffle q’s
wheat jay
Tjats all there is to it