pvp

[green wharf]

This one can also increase verst

[fickle forge]

You may as well just go orc and get primary stat along with stun reduction

[green wharf]

already am

just wondering if it was good enough, cause the gain seem hella big

[wheat jay]

mission is to end at 1300 or so

then get 6-0

for instant 1800

[urban skiff]

that would be pretty cool

I knew it was going to be a bit of a shitshow when I had instant queue with 2k rated healers

[wheat jay]

i did just that xD

i had like 1400

[urban skiff]

I'm a but upset though because the rogue left and it could have been a win

[wheat jay]

or 1300

got 5-1

and ended at like 1790

[urban skiff]

nice

with these current lobbies i bet i could take my shaman higher than 1800

[fickle forge]

If I'm not mistaken, it shares CD with your trinket as well

[urban skiff]

I'm just mashing dots and seem to be doing ok

aug evoker

just completely deleted someone

[wheat jay]

holy fuck how are people doiung 200k dps

IS THIS THE REAL LIFE

OR JUST A FANTASY!?

[fickle forge]

It's called 2100 mmr bro

Into triple kick + ground team

[urban skiff]

long queue, hold me i'm scared

[urban skiff]

between ret and fury he's not going to cast a whole lot of spells for the first longest time

what racial should I be using as zanda troll for feral?

I just remembered i can swap the passives

rate lobby

man i don't give any fucks about frost mages anymore

it's great

[wheat jay]

Mehh i wen 6-0 all good

[urban skiff]

easy to carry when you're great

look at the kind of lobby i'm struggling in

i missed the window

[wheat jay]

nah its fine

[urban skiff]

should have won first round as well but the dk or evoker messed up

what is this beast

2 losses first two rounds, i've been marked loser

3 losses

:(((

4th loss

rip

[wheat jay]

go again

[fierce elm]

rolled

[urban skiff]

i am

i don't think 3 is enough

[green wharf]

Real talk

what if

Demolish wa like evoker fire breath

But, you could walk normally while chanelling

ay or nay

[wheat jay]

you need 6-0 for 1800 there

maybe 5-1

[urban skiff]

best i can do is maybe 4-2

probs 3-3 though

unfortunately my allowance in mmr is too low

FFFFFFF

is 1 win enough now?

or will i lose rating

[sand sundial]

It is likely enough

[fickle forge]

Lose likely

[green wharf]

just win

easy

[urban skiff]

If it's any comfort, i seem to be playing pretty equally with the career "2k mmr"s.

Still not sure how that warrior had almost 1400 shuffle rounds

[dense herald]

like legend/strategist means anything

[fierce elm]

If its Legend DH this season

yeah lmao

that spec is a strugglefest

[hasty pulsar]

is the banner the same for strategist and legend

[torn sigil]

should i be macroing avatar and reck together if i take zerkers torment?

[spice hornet]

2400 in shuffle on any dps doesnt mean anythign

especially melee dps with a mortal strike

[fierce elm]

DH sucks

If you can withstand a spec that gets countered by everything

[urban skiff]

isn't DH a noobstomper?

like fdk?

[fierce elm]

Naa DH sucks

[urban skiff]

What's the most noob stomper spec of them all right now?

[fierce elm]

The Uninstall button

[urban skiff]

why so negative though bro

[fierce elm]

Forced to watch Swedish music shows

[urban skiff]

We just started watching Naked Attraction (Sweden)

On season 2 now, old ladies and old fellas

blitz is weird. According to seramate my rank hasn't changed at all since i last queued. 1½ month ago

[sharp meteor]

It shows where you were at the time.

[urban skiff]

today

[sharp meteor]

Like I won up to 900th 3s then didn't q for a while and fell to 2000th spot

also enh blitz so insane cutoff only like 3100

[urban skiff]

ok my actual rank was like 150s 1½ month ago so something changed a little

it's kind of cool how stupidly unpopular enh is in blitz

[sand sundial]

Hmm monk hunter rogue maybe

[spice hornet]

Dh has some weak defensives at the moment and the S tier stuff like rogue and feral don’t help that but it’s perfectly capable of getting glad

People are used to only playing that class when it’s broken

[fierce elm]

dh sucks

[wheat jay]

dh is terrible

dogshit

dies to air

only thing it has is somewhat decent damage lol

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/work-it-tina-bobs-burgers-twerk-gif-4368748

[slow solstice]

[green wharf]

The rankings show that DH is above Arms in mmr in all pvp content, that means arms is dog diarrhea?

[wheat jay]

No, that means people only play fury, dh only has one spec, and it's one of the more popular classes

[green wharf]

[wheat jay]

It is what it is

Dh sucks

Has shit walls

Average cc

Decent dmg

[sharp meteor]

wish the tradeoff was often better

risking the juke can get u owned

but getting the kick rarely owns them

[wheat jay]

Ye, difference between missing the kick vs landing the kick is too big

Missed the kick, man's fully cc immune for 4s

Got the kick, he can still do some stuff lol

[green wharf]

where is warrior silence

its so good on my dk

saturday night q

[wheat jay]

Best I can do is storm bolt

[sand sundial]

skill issue i think

going back to warr after grinding out some caster games

man...

[green wharf]

its like playing another game

had the sae thing when i play any other class

war is playing in Legion

[lavish quest]

Meow

This game sucks

🙂

[slow solstice]

waht is legend

?

[lavish quest]

Gladiator but for solo shuffle

[green wharf]

did you like your pennat

[lavish quest]

It's kinda cool

[wheat jay]

Just want to remind all that leland said he cba queueing

Leland, you're a tryhard

[lavish quest]

You got me

But hey, I was up there, so I wanted to try to get a first legend

[wheat jay]

Gratz

[lavish quest]

Thanks buddy

[sand sundial]

big gratz

[sand sundial]

how tough was it

thinking about pushing forged marshal

its gotta be way easier right? lol

is shuffle mmr still bad

[lavish quest]

Wasn't the worst in the world. I just started grinding it yesterday and today. Granted, much of those days, but they're days off and we've been getting a lot of snow so I wasn't going anywhere

I expected to get half done this weekend, half next, but I was able to do it all this weekend

[lucid walrus]

always a good feeling

how's the tabard look this season? can't recall

[lavish quest]

I like it, it matches the new T2 update pretty perfect

[hasty pulsar]

Cool tabard if I say so it’s like purple with a skull I think

[lucid walrus]

oh yea neat one

might have to finish up for it

[lavish quest]

I forgot, I did get to encounter Mes in my Legend journey

Good times

And some top 10 ww, never really heard of em, but they were rather nice

[slow solstice]

@lavish quest help

do you work tomorrow

[sand sundial]

tabard is very good

[green wharf]

chat, is this take based or cringe

[boreal veldt]

nostalgia bait

[urban skiff]

arms is always the best today

Anyone who thinks old arms was good is a reroller

Either trying to fit in by stating niche opinion that displays they have spent enough time with the class to have an opinion on when it's good, or they're rerolled out of warrior.
Either way, not a true warrior.

Warrior is always great. But especially right now today

[green wharf]

Ok feral boy

[urban skiff]

Literally playing on my first character so I'm ok with that

While my warrior isn't the specific first warrior toon so that makes me sad 😦

[green wharf]

Actually a poser

[urban skiff]

Actually, I wonder what did happen to my first warrior

damn, account purchase history doesn't go further back than 2010

oh fuck, am I a whale?

[green wharf]

yeah

tailored for ya

damn im climbing with ench to see how far i can go

seems like everyone else who didnt pvp this season had the same idea

every game is a stomp

on my side or their side

no close games yet

[urban skiff]

enhancement?

bro you joined the winning side

static totem the group close to an edge and then thunder them all off

[green wharf]

i didnt had a chance to do that yet

like i said or i kill everyone and become top kill without effort or i get demolished

[urban skiff]

what build are you playing?

[green wharf]

im not even running static

same the dudes in the murlock io

no lava lash

[urban skiff]

Totemic + stormstrike?

That's my love build

it's gonna end in two weeks, enjoy the brief period where shaman has the most amazing playstyle

[green wharf]

nah, stormbringer

[urban skiff]

ewwwwww

[green wharf]

totem is cringe, people can just get out of aoe

[urban skiff]

lmao what

[green wharf]

windstrike delivr tempest for the big bonks

you only need to press stormstrike to deliver tempest+lightining bolt with maelstrom

[urban skiff]

1. the totem spins flags for free
2. you don't give a fuck about the damage 99% of the time, the damage it does is from big bursts when you use sundering, which is a totem tick centered about you. Other than that the totem does damage by shooting lightning bolts

[green wharf]

is great

[urban skiff]

3. you deal all your damage with autoattack + stormstrike, freeing up brain power to make strategic plays and doing utility

[green wharf]

you do that with stormbringer too

[urban skiff]

Nah

[green wharf]

tempest hit like a chaos bolt and the animation is dope as fuck

[urban skiff]

That much is true

but you're missing out on very toxic autoattack damage that then goes into hyperdrive when you pop ascendance and your totem just melts people with lightning bolts

and then you drop a sundering and do a big 2m aoe tick on top of your regular damage

It's great fun

[green wharf]

i dont like sundering very much

will try tomorrow, got from unraked to 1500 in one sit, so i will sleep

[urban skiff]

what i do is macro sundering together with the totem transport ability

it's off the gcd

[urban skiff]

how many games did it take? I don't like that bgb takes so long to get anywhere

[nimble jasper]

Do you even play the sunder reset talent

in pvp

[urban skiff]

nop

I play the bastard build

[nimble jasper]

Yeah it seems weird with how pve totemic default to sunder resets

[urban skiff]

Gonna play that next patch probably

I think elementalist is going to be absurd amounts of damage

This is the build

Basically you drop a totem, feed the totemic rebound with ascendance autocasting lightning bolts

The really cool thing about the enh class tree is that you can just pick up whatever you like. It's not like warrior where you're forced down specific paths to pick up damage stuff at the bottom

[nimble jasper]

next tierset was doomwinds focus

last i checked

[urban skiff]

Yeah that's going to be pretty stupid

You can play doomwinds with elementalist no problem, people avoided it because it there was a shortage of talents + the damage was low.

But with next set bonus we're going to see people getting 1-shot by big crash lightnings

With the spec talents shuffled you can ignore storm or ice or lava to free up points for the other stuff you have

[nimble jasper]

is certainly an interesting class

well spec

[deft wharf]

Why does blizzard keep adding enchants that are just explosive diarrhea blasting off the weapon

like 3 seasons of brown shit flying off the weapon

[fierce elm]

Apply to the graphic design team and you can make a change

[hollow mist]

hey guys! can anyone help me with my talents for RBGs as a fury warrior?

not sure if my old setup still works and was wondering if yall could send me the best one currently

[fickle forge]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/fury-warrior-pvp-talents-and-builds

[wheat jay]

https://streamable.com/qfl741

have fun in pvp next season

@lavish quest dude i am a prophet

i made monk, next season its getting ANOTHER nuke ability

[lavish quest]

I was considering going monk or Pala next patch just to swap things up.
Good to know... hmm. Tho slicer sounds cool

[fickle forge]

I see a lot of warr mains enjoy WW as an alt

[sand sundial]

never tried it actually

[green wharf]

He was prot btw, rly bad or didnt had gear

[rancid granite]

going from charge to roll is impossible to get used to lol

I would roll off cliffs and roll past enemies 24/7

[fickle forge]

Skill issue brother

[lavish quest]

It's good fun

Not as much a fan of ww in pve, but pvp it feels rather good

But I also pve, so I'd have to see how I do with brew, possibly mw. I hate waiting for queues or struggling get into groups in pve lol

[sand sundial]

tbh some specs feel drool in pve compared to pvp

ret puts me to sleep in pve

in pvp its awesome

[fickle forge]

Ret all about utility

Which hardly matters in PvE

[sand sundial]

big hits, insta mount

[lavish quest]

Idk, I can get behind the dumb dopamine delivery that is ret in pve

Maybe if I mained for months on end I'd get sick of it. But idk, I just play prot war in pve so that's not incredibly complex

[fickle forge]

There's literally only one god PvE ret I know and it's @fierce elm

The rest forgot to bind all their blessings and lay

[lavish quest]

Jokes on you, I lay people and put my sac on them all the time in mythic plus

Usually the tank. Because they bad and need the help

On all the classes with utility and heals like that, I just turn mouseover on as the default in the setting and makes it all so easy to do

[fierce elm]

my guy is glazing me

[fickle forge]

Means you're one of the 5 PvE'ers using utility

[wheat jay]

Hes gonna go for the nuts soon

Gaygish

[fierce elm]

80% of the fun in ret pve is the utility lmao

[fickle forge]

Deep in that bootyhole

[fierce elm]

Hitting divine storm is boring

watching for sacs/bops/lays/freedom/WoG is the fun part

[fickle forge]

Oh yeah you actually press word of trash

Deducting 10 points there

[fierce elm]

Naa it has helped on m+ fights where damage doesn matter

Or where there is a ton of downtime that can be healer struggles

You have so much holy power anyways

[fickle forge]

Deducting 10 points

[sand sundial]

its so automated i dont like it lol

at least in pvp it feels like a hack n slash

[sand sundial]

its getting buffed finally (i think)

[earnest thorn]

10.0 ret was so good. Radiant decree was goated.
Then the rework happened and the spec got an automatic transmission

[sand sundial]

ret is the most fun with a fellow warrior

[sand sundial]

i didnt play before the rework but i enjoy the added utility tbh

even tho some of them could be buffed still

[fickle forge]

Ret has always been auto af

Remember auto bubble in Legion?

[earnest thorn]

Maybe but not to this extent. Auto crusader strike, auto consecrate, auto wings, you can even auto sac now which says something about the potential target audience

[lavish quest]

Big numbas please brain

[fickle forge]

WoW in general is moving towards auto stuff

Thanks PvE'ers

[sand sundial]

i dont fully agree

addon simulator aint fun to most ppl

[sand sundial]

templar hammer is goated

[lavish quest]

And warrior gets the finicky version with Demolish

Our class is good, I swear

[sand sundial]

They should legit copy and paste it

I wouldn't mind one bit

[fickle forge]

We had annihilator for fury as well

[green wharf]

i give up on pve'ers after they think currently arms is good

so much shit talk about how colossus arm is for the big brain gameplay

people play shit on high level and think they are world level or smt

[fickle forge]

Current arms does feel good Imo, I just dislike how low Execute hits for

[green wharf]

[fickle forge]

I would definitely like some QoL to colossus

But it is what it is

At least it takes more than room temperature IQ to pull off

[wheat jay]

arms in m+ is MAD fun

BIG DEMOLISH IN AOE GOES BRRRRRRRR

[fickle forge]

Big Cleave is equally fun

[sand sundial]

small pet peeve but i dont like it when the cleave buff stacks and its animation changes

its due to collateral dmg i think? not sure

the sweeping strikes bug as well, reduces the fun for me

[green wharf]

@urban skiff nah totmetic sucks

lost 20 rank already and my mmv went to shit

gonna stick with big bonk tempest

[fickle forge]

Totemic is meta

[green wharf]

more like meh

got em

[urban skiff]

Skill issue

[green wharf]

win every game with stormbringer

lose every game with totemic

coincidence? i think not

[raven gate]

guys im new to fury pvp if i talented berserks torment can i still makro avatar and recklessness into one makro or is it bad then?

[fickle forge]

😴

[fickle forge]

Cursed spec man

Assassa is the biggest meme

[fierce elm]

Check pet cleaving lmao

[fickle forge]

Doesn't it feed him energy to have DoTs on pets?

[fierce elm]

idk

lmao

I just know it gives a ton of crimson tempest damage

But a lot of that should be pad damage

[fickle forge]

Yeah it feeds him energy bro

So more ST damage as well

Even without the pad he topped everyone on ST and cleave

[fierce elm]

oh yeah

that one

oh yeah thats why we spam fan of knives when getting to cleave

I havent played wow in a bit alright

[fickle forge]

Lmao

Mastering his spec for him while he's off-grid

Bleed city bro

[fierce elm]

Look man WoW is DEAD

[inner sigil]

in a duel does ele shaman fuck fury warr

[fickle forge]

Don't take duels seriously bro

[inner sigil]

i mean i js wanna know reguardless

ik they dont mean shit

[fierce elm]

Ele probably fucks fury

yes

[fickle forge]

You lose to everything in a duel as fury

[fierce elm]

Why is my guy mutilating

[fickle forge]

Ask him

[fierce elm]

naaa

assa requires half a braincell

[fickle forge]

Pretty sick 100k mutilate

[fierce elm]

Mutilate is garbanzo unfortunately

[fickle forge]

The 1.1M Envenom though

[fierce elm]

Unfortunately need some sort of Combo point generator for the empowered envenom

yeah

thats the empowered one

[fickle forge]

There's an empowered one?

[fierce elm]

you only use the empowered one

from your hero talent

[fickle forge]

I don't even know how they get an empowered one man

[fierce elm]

proccing the hero talent

by using 3 5+ combo point abilities

on a deathmarked target

[fickle forge]

I really like this button bro

Sure does a lot of damage bro

[fickle forge]

Aaaah

[fierce elm]

yeah

[fickle forge]

So it's just to consume marks

I'm still so far away dude

[fierce elm]

You can consume marks with w.e that consumes 5+ CP

Kidney, Rupture, Crimson tempest, Envenom

The only time you cast Envenom outside of that darkest night window is if you can't proc the mark some other way and ahve full bleeds up

the aids part is that Ambush applies it

[fickle forge]

I mean yeah

Makes sense

I'm seeing all these assassas use their melds and vanishes offensively anyway

[fierce elm]

yeah, why would you use it defensively

you just full send stuff

Nobody can do anything if they are constantly silenced

[sharp meteor]

buff warr

[fierce elm]

or dealing with triple stuns

while bleeding to death from passive AoE bleeds

<@&257983573498265600>

[sharp meteor]

🙏

[fierce elm]

thanks G

[fickle forge]

Yeah it's pretty fortunate arms does good into the leather boys

So you can at least punish Vanish mistakes

[fierce elm]

I mean warrior absolutely blasts assa

If ignoring comps and shit

You have to use Vanishes more defensively

which stops a lot of offense

usually people just send it anyways

especially in SS where defensive play loses games

[fickle forge]

Yeah I mean it took me a bit to figure out

But once I found out I can just stun into disarm rogues on their openers and then they do 0 pressure

It's pretty much always a wain for me to go vs rogue

[fierce elm]

If you can stun and disarm on their opener they already fucked up lmao

they should be able to guarantee all 3 bleeds at minimum

then they can just hold for next go

[fickle forge]

I mean you just spin on sap

[fierce elm]

Look man, its 2025

any rogue who don't know to wait after sap when facing warrior

is just dumb

You just accept the sap DR and take it like a man

[fickle forge]

Oh well

It's shuffle

He won anyway

[fierce elm]

true

[fickle forge]

I still got 34 spots to go

😴

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/pphMGlq7Hg4

another skillcapped video that isn't nonsense but actually good.

Just wish they had mentioned gladiator stance

[true tiger]

mmmmmm slayer core

[green wharf]

just went 3 games in a row with stormbringer, won all, halfway trough 1600

tempest go BONK

[dense herald]

Yh thane rampages are much better but those slayer executes are CHUNKY

Imagine them with the 50% buff we get on execute next patch

Execute will feel real,atleast for fury

[true tiger]

damn thats sonicee

[copper fox]

@elfin surge ???

[elfin surge]

LOL

I started my shuffle adventures the other night @fickle forge

this bracket is EASY

WAAT

[copper fox]

I stopped right before 2700 where you at

It’s really not that bad as a warrior lol

[elfin surge]

0cr-r1 range in 24 hours

lol

[copper fox]

Insane lol

[fickle forge]

What MMR you on bro?

And spec

[elfin surge]

fury

[sterile moth]

Jesus only one sub .500 round.

Slayer only!

*?

[elfin surge]

i play both

depends on what im fighting

[lavish quest]

Wut you play slayer into? I've just been thaning it up.

[sterile moth]

I like Thane more too into everything

[elfin surge]

Slayer into everything

Thane into cleaves

[fierce elm]

ur mom into everything

[lavish quest]

I was just a fan of the big chonkin rampages and thunderblasts

But maybe I made things harder for myself

[elfin surge]

I just use thane to cleave down two melee

[urban skiff]

would have won 4/3 as totemic + ascendance

[lavish quest]

I use thane to cleave down two ranged because eventually they'll be dumb enough to cuddle long enough for a spear

[elfin surge]

just play slayer

train one target

tell healer to push in cuz ur never peeling off

gg

[lavish quest]

Probably smarter. Thane just felt good for some reason. I liked actually seeing an hp bar move when I press rampage and junk. 🤷‍♂️
I was slayer all the way for most of the season, then doomer convinced me to try thane and I ended up liking it

I got my legend, I ain't going any further. Season is done for me, maybe I'll do proper comparison next season

[rancid granite]

you know you can just play for fun and not for rating or achievements

and i think the mode for that is blitz

[copper fox]

wtf?

No you can’t

Especially if you’re a warrior

[fickle forge]

Bro knows only green

Also what the fuck man you Q'd all that today

Must have been 4-5 hours of sitting in Q

[elfin surge]

its my day off

[fickle forge]

I'm Q'ing 1 lobby a day rn

Not even

[rancid granite]

4 hours of mobility work and exercise while in Q

mud getting ripped

[lavish quest]

Yeah I had my fill thank you

Maybe I'll queue blitz if I can be bothered because I'm 2300 there

[rancid granite]

point was nows the time you can stop caring about rating lol

[lavish quest]

Well not too much reason to care about blitz ratig

[rancid granite]

pvp just to pvp pretend rating isnt there

or break to pve cause burnout happens :b

[copper fox]

Is mop the angle or is it DOA

There’s 39 glad spots

[spice hornet]

It’s dead lol

[copper fox]

In cata rn lmfao

Hilarious

[spice hornet]

I think eu has eve less

[copper fox]

Insane

[spice hornet]

Solved old metas and private server Andries aren’t fun

[copper fox]

Agreed

[nimble jasper]

What happened to all the fanboys

of cata arena

[fickle forge]

So cata only has 8k arena players then

[copper fox]

If that. Most of these people have more alts than retail players

They try to boost the pool

[fickle forge]

Ah

So more like 6k then

[copper fox]

Yea more likely

It’s basically a private server

[inner sigil]

does dh fuck warr in duels

[fickle forge]

You still lose to every spec in duels bro

[inner sigil]

so yes

[fickle forge]

Yes, and yes to every future time you wanna ask

Warrior doesn't win duels

[rancid granite]

ask again after next patch

🤞

[fickle forge]

Try again in Midnight

🙏

[nimble jasper]

duels havent been relevant in a decade

[rancid granite]

duels are relevant if you wanna 1v1 or flex on someone

and whats bigger of a flex than winning 1v1 as a warrior

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-chaldea-chaldea-rathskeller-yo-lons-gif-19440268

[fickle forge]

Actually beating them on ladder

[violet fossil]

bro asks this in dk discord too

[green wharf]

the games i did that i lost, so there is a clear pattern

[inner sigil]

what about lock, does lock beat warr in duels rn

a REALLY good warr vs a REALLY good lock

like woopzy level or sum

[green wharf]

my dude, we already said, every dps spec beat war in duels

except prot

[inner sigil]

even warlock?

[green wharf]

war isnt a class to duel anymore

you need a pocket healer

if you win a duel just means you are better than the other person, not that war is better against that spec

[sterile moth]

Playing thane, do you guys go anger management or reckless abandon

[sharp meteor]

Hey guys Arms or fury for duels

[sterile moth]

Arms against frost Mage, fury against demo lock

[spice hornet]

what's the colossus arms rotation

[inner sigil]

basically demolish ms

thats it

LOL

everything else normal

collosus smash spear demolish ms

ez

[sterile moth]

You need thunderclap to keep rend up

[green wharf]

i do reckless

AM make the cds weird

[oblique ferry]

We are spear now?

[fickle forge]

You can as fury

[boreal veldt]

You can as arms

[sharp meteor]

It's a decent option.

[sharp meteor]

Prot, too.

[spice hornet]

😳

🤮

[fickle forge]

Stop

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff back to 531 BBB

modified slightly, OHP swapped with Incline smith bench

Deadlifts with rows

Might do BBS eventually

[urban skiff]

Fuck yeah!

I added another 3kg to my ohp on 531 just now. That's third record in 4 weeks or something

[green wharf]

7 win streak with stormbringer

dunno man, seems like chad tempest going brrrr is better than virgin totem

[elfin surge]

@fickle forge

Most powerful gnome

[pseudo mountain]

Whats classes and specs do we run disarm against?

[urban skiff]

I'd duel you but would feel bad about how much i'm beating you

[fickle forge]

I checked the ladder and I noticed literally every single person is gnome

Not one single orc

[elfin surge]

yeah u cant trust healers to dispel your roots in shuffle

[green wharf]

the only thing you would be beating was me meat

got em

btw you gave me bad luck, my team had 2 monk heals and they both sucked ass

lost the flag game cause of then

goodbye 7 win streak

[urban skiff]

Pfft. Would have won ez with my build

[green wharf]

your build made me lost mmr

[urban skiff]

You not playing it right

The build is the highest rated in bgb and has been all year

[green wharf]

its pretty close, more stormbringers in top 5

[urban skiff]

Nobody cares what numbers 2 to 10000 do, when number 1 does something better 🐒

[green wharf]

top shaman is troll

[urban skiff]

Nah, he's playing the build

[green wharf]

meaning totemic only works with troll racial

proved

it would be crazy though, pop bloodlust, ascendand and troll berserking

fuckton of haste

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ew-ew-what-is-that-whats-that-brother-gif-14318384540422820315

[true tiger]

tbh if top guy plays it doesnot rly mean it will work,hemust be insane gamer who just does whatever he wants just like elon musk

[fierce elm]

the fuck did I just read

[true tiger]

every mele

[fierce elm]

the fuck did I just read x2

[true tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/scram-gone-begone-getout-git-gif-5567969

shu shu

[fierce elm]

Disarm feral druid

Disarm Survival hunter

Disarm WW

[elfin surge]

disarm mage

[fierce elm]

mage is not a melee spec smh

[true tiger]

ill be disarming evokers idc

[elfin surge]

removed their weapon which removes the intellect from it which lowers their damage

[fierce elm]

true

[true tiger]

disarm whataver wear weapon

[fierce elm]

Disarm should give you the stats of the weapon you disarmed

[elfin surge]

Disarm demo lock pet so it cant stun you during stormbolt

🗿

[fickle forge]

Disarm felguard

Disarm the horsemen

[true tiger]

ill disarm boomkim trees

anyday everyday

[fierce elm]

take disarm into everything

[elfin surge]

disarm dn

[fickle forge]

Nah dw @fierce elm will HoJ those

[fierce elm]

You do a thing once

and its forever a meme

[true tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/disarm-technique-gun-denzel-washington-gif-16081602

[fickle forge]

I'll never let you live it down dude

[fierce elm]

smh

[true tiger]

imagine when u disarm class u gain 1 of their ability

[fickle forge]

It was twice the same game

[elfin surge]

real men play death wish and blame healer 🗿

[fierce elm]

Look man it happens

[fickle forge]

Happens cause of your dogshit macros

[fierce elm]

I did bang ur mom twice in the same game

got em

[fickle forge]

She could use it ngl

[fierce elm]

I know she kinda lonel

[elfin surge]

I finally installed Dynamic Macros, feels good to actually use intervene in shuffle

[fierce elm]

y

[true tiger]

macro memes

[fierce elm]

MUD is losing it

Solo shuffle brain rot

[true tiger]

once a guy texted me macro which would play the game for me

[elfin surge]

i cant get 3s r1 anymore

im washed and bad

[fierce elm]

when does the season end so I can play the game again

[true tiger]

how ppl enjoy such macro gameplays

[elfin surge]

in a week

[fierce elm]

thank fuck

How are queues rn

If its over 15 minute queues I aint playing

[elfin surge]

3v3 is cursed, shuffle is okay

10-15 min qs until 3v3 prime

[fierce elm]

I need like 2 games for 2400 on my ret

but the fucking queue times can suck my d!ck

[true tiger]

got 5 min ss queues

last 3 days

worst was 15 min

best 2 sec

[elfin surge]

I need like 2 games for #1 fury

I think im actually gunna start pushin a second warrior in shuffle

[fickle forge]

Crazy dude

[true tiger]

actually bro i played 12 shuffle games in 5 hours

which is record

[fickle forge]

I'm seeing my R1 potential slipping rn unfort

[true tiger]

arms getting better?

kinda bored of rampage spams

[fierce elm]

rolled

[lavish quest]

3s is dead

[elfin surge]

3s this seas as warrior is miserable

Q thunder or perish

Hpal ele x & Hpal Affi x is all that qs

[lavish quest]

Wouldn't know. I'm like 1500 in it. Barely touch the bracket

[elfin surge]

10 minute hpal mirrors

[lavish quest]

Maybe we should become mages and warlocks. Finally be a good class.
... 🤔 ... nah, I'm not a c uck

[fickle forge]

It's insane for arms rn

7 spots available, and I'm not about to beat Devilscandy or Malitek

[lavish quest]

Just beat them. Seems easy enough

[fierce elm]

beta

dw bro the best assa in the world is waiting for you

[fickle forge]

I know you were trynna aim that at me, but I see you accidentally mouseover targeted Artji instead

[fierce elm]

He is also a beta

wdym

[fickle forge]

Artji intervened it

[elfin surge]

shuffle this seas is by far the most enjoyable

not sure why

[fickle forge]

Surprisingly

I guess because of meta variation

[sterile moth]

I think so too Mud

[fickle forge]

It's not affli, assassa and ele on rotation

[sterile moth]

I didn’t play Dragon Flight so it’s my first go around with shuffle though

[elfin surge]

shuffle in DF was awful

hated every q

[fickle forge]

I'm just really tired of double pala lobbies in shuffle

I would honestly rather have the wizard cleaves with Rdruid

[elfin surge]

ya double pal is cringe

[lavish quest]

Hpal vs disc in assa marks double fury lobby.

[elfin surge]

I've noticed when I tell my team how to play with a fury I win

I shouldnt have to tell a monk to rop a warlock off top of mugambala once he ports

but i guess I do

Telling my team to push in vs warlocks so i can actually chase their port goes a long way

(im getting chat banned)

[fickle forge]

It's incredible ngl

I thought it'd stop eventually, but it doesn't seem to be the case

I've had games where a caster on each team will kite each melee back, so in the end it's just two 2v1s happening 80 yd apart on the map until one melee decides to engage their brain and swap

[elfin surge]

I had a game where its ele fury vs ww affi and my ele refused to push onto the warlock and wanted to kite backwards and attack the ww while I get 2v1d by affi and his healer

thunder wins if he pushes onto warlock with me

but i just solod enemy rsham in a stormbolt

annoyed the fuck out of me tho

[sterile moth]

Good tips, I do tell them to push in on warlocks but it’s 50/50 whether they actually will or not

[elfin surge]

yeah shuffle is a gamble sometimes

lower lobbies nobody will listen

[rancid granite]

yeah shuffle is awesome

really awesome

[elfin surge]

higher or mid level they do

[fierce elm]

yeah okay no lmao

[fickle forge]

Amateur

[elfin surge]

we love yolo yuffle

[rancid granite]

lmao

[fickle forge]

Took 52 min before it actually popped

[rancid granite]

and somehow mud playing like 30 games a day

[fickle forge]

52 min to go 4-2

[fickle forge]

He's also playing fury, so he's sitting increased Q time

[elfin surge]

14 games in 10 hours of qing

[rancid granite]

mmm ok that adds up

but thats still awful

[elfin surge]

its not that bad

felt like i climbed really fast

I got 2k in 4 games the night before

then +800cr in 10 hours

[fierce elm]

"Oh yeah queues are fine." - MUD

[elfin surge]

Oh yeah queues are fine

my gnome just peepin on egirls in goldshire between qs

🗿

[green wharf]

@urban skiff does skillgap run 4piece shaman?

cause im runing 2p

[fickle forge]

Works that way when you got the MMR

[elfin surge]

then get mmr

[fickle forge]

I am

What do you consider safe though? @elfin surge

How much above cutoff

[elfin surge]

lol no idea

just eye the spots

like top 20 for fury

"safe" shuffle is weird cuz 15 people could randomly queue one game

[fickle forge]

Ah I see

[urban skiff]

No clue. I run 2 pc because i don't really use my doggos

[urban skiff]

Top tier satire

[slow solstice]

@fickle forge you didn't even bat an eye when he says that shit

[elfin surge]

he already knew

[slow solstice]

saj

gm mud

[elfin surge]

☀️ 😎

[sand sundial]

What's the shuffle cutoff rn

[fickle forge]

I've slandered him for it before, he also doesn't boost them for a lap dance

[urban skiff]

Who do you think is the egirls

[urban skiff]

What's it like knowing what the cutoff is?

[sand sundial]

What do you mean

[urban skiff]

I mean i always stop at 1800 regardless of whether i could make it at higher ratings or not.

Just wondering what its like to have ambition and skill

[sand sundial]

Lolol

The mmr nerf at the start sort of killed it for me tbh

I could maybe get it on blitz though

[fickle forge]

Despresso when you lose it to RNG

[lavish quest]

I tell em to push in. They agree. Then the healer proceeds to be in Africa for a first half of the round. Rough times

[urban skiff]

How hard is 1800 in 2v2 right now?

[sand sundial]

You can do it in a session probably

Maybe 2

Shuffle is only 2840? Lol

@fickle forge @lavish quest are you guys pushing

[lavish quest]

No

[fickle forge]

Yes

[lavish quest]

I don't think I'm at the level to hit R1 yet so I just went for legend. I managed to get up to 129th (not incredible I know) at a point for fury, but I was just farming round wins in elite

But I also was only playing thane

[elfin surge]

[lavish quest]

Thunderblast go brrrrr

[green wharf]

got 1700 with enh easy, stormbringer is the play

sometimes i can nuke 4 people with one ascendance

its great

[urban skiff]

I got 1900 easy pressing just stormstrike and no doggos or anything else when the season was fresh

And i'm stupid

[green wharf]

not true

you press totem

[urban skiff]

I macro totem to stormstrike

[sand sundial]

I'm about to get it for blitz, maybe I could do it for shuffle after finishing my elite sets for other classes

[urban skiff]

I macro everything into stormstrike with a /CastRandom

[sand sundial]

Beast

[green wharf]

i got 2k with like 5 specs, only with frost i got duelist

[fickle forge]

It stops when you hit higher mmr, ascend becomes ass and totemic is the way

[green wharf]

BM, MM, Demo, Destro e frost, got a few others 1800~~1900

this season was produtive enough

[green wharf]

both hero specs you use ascend

and there are more stormbringers in the ladder

[fickle forge]

They don't

[green wharf]

how they dont

[fickle forge]

Totemic is primordial

Nobody plays ascend as totemic

[green wharf]

you are talking about the cringe mode

arena

no one plays that anymore

[fickle forge]

Oh we're blitz coping

I see

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/now-old-man-the-future-is-now-old-man-gif-9677657

blitz and delves are wow future

[fickle forge]

If you're a casual dad gamer maybe

[sand sundial]

shuffle > 3v3 > blitz >>> rest

casuals dropped blitz but its the future of wow pvp

[green wharf]

thats like

the wow fanbase mate

only old moms and dads and rich kids

[fickle forge]

It's just not the competitive scene

And if we're talking meta then I'd stick with that

[indigo light]

Hey all returning warrior back from old expansions to PvP. I hit about 1600-1700 in solo and blitz last night. So I got two things. What spec is everyone going for PvP? I'm currently arms and it feels ok just my self healing seems wack AF. And second is any tips on dueling the other classes. Melee is usually fine but I struggle with range and ele shamans

[green wharf]

wow doesnt have a competitive scene

[fickle forge]

[fickle forge]

Fury
Dw about self heals as warr
Don't take duels seriously

[indigo light]

What's the difference between the two? And I meant in shuffle I'm having trouble with range haha

[fickle forge]

Fury does more damage and takes less skill to get value out of

Arms tankier and more burst

Fury is unhealable though

[fierce elm]

Fury does everything better

[rancid granite]

I'm still shocked at this lol I didn't expect it but they keep appearing

and they're lovely and good at the game

also blitz is pretty chill it reminds me of vanilla bg's

goofin around and trying to get most kills

sounds annoying if you play it to try to farm rating or achievements tho

[lavish quest]

Go fury so you can ravage your keyboard as you ravage their health bars.

Ranged will eternally be our struggle

Precog is a bug blizz refuses to fix, and you won't change my mind.

[sand sundial]

necessary evil imo

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-no-way-gif-24547692

All their spells are instant, and they need precog somehow

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-world-of-warcraft-bongo-cat-warrior-gif-27388603

[lavish quest]

Excuse me, that's bloodthirst instead of raging blow as thane

[rancid granite]

lol

[sharp meteor]

Ya its so good

Only downside is it can bug out when you myslot alts cos it duplicates the macros

But takes like 30 seconds to delete the duplicate that isn't changing

[sharp meteor]

Dang I made that back in like cosmic

Missing conq banno

[elfin surge]

good coms

[lavish quest]

I just have it set to mouse over, and I mouseover the raid frames. Maybe a lil less optimal but ah well

[sharp meteor]

Nah having a bind that always venes healer and one that always goes dps is sick

[lavish quest]

I have the macro also able to go to party 1 with alt and party 2 with ctrl. I just rare do it that way

[spice hornet]

Who are you? @elfin surge not recognizing this new mod

Guess they give mod to any new player these days gg /shrug

[elfin surge]

[fickle forge]

Not ready to rot my brain in shuffle this weekend

[lavish quest]

Mwahi added this to my name

[true tiger]

anyyy way

i can beat ret

or at least make him use bubble?

1v1

as fury

[lavish quest]

No

[true tiger]

my ret friend says i can do more at least make him use bubblke

but i die without him using bubble

max i can make him is use LOH

[fierce elm]

I mean yeah

good luck

[sand sundial]

never lmao

[fickle forge]

Guys does fury warrior lose to feral in duels?

[sterile moth]

Yes, but dominates frost mage

[fierce elm]

Guys does my wife win the court case after I abuse her after I lose a solo shuffle game at 1200

[sharp meteor]

Bros troll or void elf for duels

[true tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/orc-smile-gif-10315643652749609661

[lavish quest]

Guys, is warrior a real class?

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-o'hearn-real-brainfog-gif-7666610795160025826

[inner sigil]

maybe

[true tiger]

idk bro

io be smashing buttons and i kill people

maybe warrior is our inner problems

[spice hornet]

Warrior is the worst 1v1 class in the game

[sterile moth]

I might try a leech build on my bottom alt. Seems like it might be decent with al of thanes aoe dam

[ebon shale]

Honestly the harder I press my buttons the more damage I see

[rancid granite]

its the opposite for me

play some light classical chill music, lightly effortlessly glide along the keys in a zen flow state

big rating

[lavish quest]

Nah, its all but confirmed now. The harder you smash, the harder you smash

[fickle forge]

Even if you did a 1 mill dps, you'd be doing 30k hps

[sterile moth]

Why is leech good for ret?

[lavish quest]

Because ranged dps don't need speed as much prob

[sand sundial]

Avoidance is not very useful either

[wheat jay]

Cuz nothing else is

[sharp meteor]

it isnt

[fierce elm]

I swear this chat is smoking something

We got the duel questions now some DUDE wants to go 'leech build' and asking why leech is good for ret

[sterile moth]

@fierce elm not smoking anything. Just trying to think outside the box

[rancid granite]

there's not too much outside the box in WoW i quickly learned being back

Bless and his mastery/crit demolish build is the wackiest thing there is really

[sand sundial]

unfortunately yeah blizz hates it when people play outside the way they want

[rancid granite]

well they gave us a lot of different specs and then another set of choices with hero talents

gotta take what's given 🙏

[boreal veldt]

gonna get wackier in 11.1

[green wharf]

ME: shoving leech enchant on my itens as fury

i like to think i survive in the 1x1 scenarios because of it

[oblique ferry]

Are there any rewards past 2400 in Blitz?

[boreal veldt]

not in blitz no

[oblique ferry]

Bummer

[sand sundial]

strategist title if u win some more games

[sharp meteor]

strat title and pennant for 25 wins while elite

title for top 0.1%

[boreal veldt]

i'm a fool in a man's shoe, i didn't know about strat title

[sharp meteor]

i mean it goes away at end of season

pennant is alright ig

[hasty pulsar]

I’ve been playing an unholy dk alt and it’s wild how much I miss second wind lol (I do a lot of world PvP) eating food sucks ass 🤣

[fierce elm]

just death strike stuff brother bear

[hasty pulsar]

No I mean out of combat

To regen health

[fierce elm]

I would just go slap a random nearby mob

assuming there is something to hit

Otherwise yeah, I get it lmao

[hasty pulsar]

Even still the quality of life of second wind owns hard

[fierce elm]

Once you get rid of some passive health gen that is somewhat good you just feel cucked

[hasty pulsar]

Yeah it feels awful lol

[fierce elm]

Most noticeable when you level

Going from Warrior with second wind + impending victory to rogue that has nothing for a long time lmao

[hasty pulsar]

Yah

[spice hornet]

glad is free

[sharp meteor]

people doom so hard early seas

[fierce elm]

Its been doomed from the start lmao

[fickle forge]

Dw man, Afro just a lil' cranky atm
Leech doesn't matter though

[spice hornet]

Hi uwu snuggle

[lavish quest]

In deadge mode tho so

[wheat jay]

Glad is free, but the mount is so ugly i wouldn't take it even if someone paid me for it

[lavish quest]

I mean... I'd go for it just do to do it if I had cool people to queue with.
Maybe. I also like not having to have a set time to play. Why full on raiding died for me, I just pug it whenever I go to do it now

[fickle forge]

Can you stop saying this shit while still grinding out your 2400 shuffle

When am I witnessing your 2400 WW arc huh

[fierce elm]

bro r1 is so free, but I don't like the title!!!

[lavish quest]

Artji somehow is on the cutting edge of fotm rerolling

[lavish quest]

Also I know you troll, but forged glad and forged legend are dope

[fierce elm]

bro even if I got PAID I wouldn't take it

[lavish quest]

Artji RPer

[wheat jay]

Titles are cool

Glad mount is dogshit

[fierce elm]

Yeah i'd totally get it for FREE but man I just don't want to

[sand sundial]

[sterile moth]

@fickle forge thanks for clarifying. Just queued a lot yesterday and it wasn’t going well

[elfin surge]

in the trees peepin on egirls in goldshire

@fickle forge

30 minute shuffle qs got me losing my mind

[lavish quest]

I farm like old meta achieves and mogs n mounts n shit in the meantime

Get out there and get it king

[wheat jay]

Goated guild

[fickle forge]

Time to peep outside at the sunlight fam

[rancid granite]

nosferatu MUD over here

[elfin surge]

gunna start the shuffle grind on a second war here soon

[lavish quest]

Why?

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/nosferatu-horror-vampire-count-orlok-1920s-gif-11650031842696618006

[elfin surge]

not going for 3s r1 anymore

[wheat jay]

Hes too bad for it

[lavish quest]

Because?
And so... 2nd shuffle war just for the funzies to fill the time?

[elfin surge]

yup

[elfin surge]

2nd war so i can start the 3rd war

[lavish quest]

Maybe if the queues weren't forever. MAYBE

[elfin surge]

gunna swap this war gnome tonight
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/icecrown/execute

sucks that gnome is that good

is what it is ig

[lavish quest]

You're weak

I stuck with smorc

Thane only

[elfin surge]

i dont trust noob shuffle healers to dispell my root bro

[slow solstice]

hi

[lavish quest]

They never dispell me, I just suffer

Had a round where had hpal and ret with me. Didn't get a freedom that round.

Super close round loss, because 10% ele 10 ft away can't hit. Spam ping myself. No freedoms

Sad times

[elfin surge]

you use pings?

i should too actually

[lavish quest]

Not often

[elfin surge]

never used them idk how

[lavish quest]

I just middle mouse click on somethings sometimes

It's bound to middle mouse for me

[elfin surge]

im going to set that up later tonight

[lavish quest]

If you hold it brings up a lil 4 option grid thing

[elfin surge]

i need to command my little noobies in shuffle

[lavish quest]

Similar to Opie addon if you used that. (Opie isn't pings tho)

[elfin surge]

so far i havent had any problems with people in shuffle. I tell them what to do and they do it

[lavish quest]

Same in M+.
I maintain playing prot war there is playing bm hunter but the party are my pets