pvp

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-monsterdoge-monsterhunterdoge-dogesamurai-samuraidoge-gif-18561833

where the longsword users at

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/yBTwa5DAo2c

Thar be weebs here

[rancid granite]

hate when a longsword is considered weebie :'(

but, awesome

i haven't played since the original PSP version but i was a pro ls user

[urban skiff]

Gunlance is the only true weapon

if you MUST abandon the boom, you go SnS

alatreon on gunlance was a true b-word

or I guess charge blade but that's a little boomy weapon

Lots of overlap between gunlance and charge blade gear

I'm probably gonna go gunlance and charge blade in wilds

but only if they don't fuck up SAED this time

[rancid granite]

isnt charge blade just greatsword??

[fierce elm]

no

wtf

Charge blade was mad fun

[rancid granite]

thought GS was just you charging up for big hits

googles

[fierce elm]

Charge blade and GS are different brother bear

[urban skiff]

nooooooooooooooooooo

https://youtu.be/VYBGE_Bxhn8

[rancid granite]

oh i see it now lol

[urban skiff]

does this look like gs?

[rancid granite]

wild as hell but thats really cool lol

[urban skiff]

I want to say the heart of charge blade is attacking in a pattern where monster attacks strike the guard points of your rotation

And unleashing the chain saw thing and SAED

[wheat jay]

@fierce elm leave me alone nerd

[slow solstice]

hi

[wheat jay]

yo

[fierce elm]

hello

[urban skiff]

honey wake up, skillcapped is posting popular opinions on reddit

[fierce elm]

Skillcapped karma farming on reddit

[rancid granite]

RUINED

FOREVER!!!

id love to see a poll of pvpers if theyd prefer addons vs no addons

[wheat jay]

pvp as it is now

addons

[urban skiff]

I'd prefer if the game was playable without addons

Sort of like overwatch

[wheat jay]

pvp with visibility of abilities, no addons

UI addons, yes

[urban skiff]

In the current state we can't say addons ruined anything, blizzard's lack of UI support ruined everything infinitely more

[rancid granite]

addons just giving players more info and visibility to go on and available to everyone so its weird to me lol

[urban skiff]

tbh give me an afternoon, 6 Monsters and I'll knock out a weakaura that tracks when each player tends to kick during your cast and add an overlay to the cast bar that predicts and shows when to stop casting to bait precog with great precision

[rancid granite]

less info being better is kinda wild

[fierce elm]

I prefer less addons

[hot solstice]

best solution to juking weakaura - play melee

[fierce elm]

and think blizzard can implement a ton of addons into the base UI editor

but refuses to for some random reason

I also believe some addons are just iffy and wack

Those that remove any sort of skill from the game are just eh

[hot solstice]

I think addons isnt main problem tbh

[urban skiff]

I'll make a reverse too: track when people juke often so I know when to kick

[fierce elm]

Talking weakauras that give a ton of information with sound, allowing you to ignore visual queues, Gladiatrlossa straight up telling you what things is doing

However,addons arent the main problem with PvP

and is just a scapegoat

[hot solstice]

in general its just better to never kick

[urban skiff]

just always kick late

[hot solstice]

imagine how casters played without precog... 8 expansions of tornment

[urban skiff]

Fuck precog. As long as melee can't get immune to roots and slows when casters make mistakes, casters don't deserve precog.

[wheat jay]

only weakauras are too much

[urban skiff]

weakauras don't do anything you can't do with an addon. If we remove weakauras we'll just be going back to everyone having a thousand different specialized addons that do the exact same thing

[urban skiff]

They need to break addon access

[hot solstice]

even less reasons to hit mage next ssn

[urban skiff]

play with an enh

He'll dispel the barrier or he'll melt the mage

[hot solstice]

oh yeah and hope for random purge

hope it purges alter or this

[urban skiff]

That's the good thing about mages

[hot solstice]

imagine 2buffs nocd purge from wotlk

[urban skiff]

There's so many things we can dispel that it's always a good button to press

They're raising damage from the purge talent in 11.1, might even kill people with it soon

[hot solstice]

no s2 pvp vendor yet - no real testing

2 weeks left

cba just make vendor - players will do else for u

[urban skiff]

What do you want from the vendor?

[hot solstice]

free arena gear

[urban skiff]

Are there even enough people for you to test with or against?

[hot solstice]

dunno nobody wants play with 10% versa

warrior tierset has versa only on gloves

[urban skiff]

If you just want to see your stats, you can use math if you want

[fierce elm]

Time for @fickle forge to push r1 now

he promised

[urban skiff]

did he promise to push or promise to succeed?

[fierce elm]

he promised to push it in ss

[slow solstice]

i have 2 weeks to get 2400

[fickle forge]

I didn't promise shit

[fierce elm]

he promised

[green wharf]

dunno if i try to puh the elite set for shaman/rogue or paladin

the shaman looks awful

[wheat jay]

You did

R1 arms in shuffle

[fickle forge]

No I didn't

Quote me

Where did I promise

[green wharf]

BUSTED

[fierce elm]

busted

he promised

[wheat jay]

What now bitch?

Huh

Also, 2330 in shuffle

[fickle forge]

I see no promise you lil' bitches

[green wharf]

caught on 4k

so Season 2 start 4th march

but when it does end

[wheat jay]

Where r1?

[fierce elm]

25th

[green wharf]

damn another shit fel bat that have nothing to do with the expansion

there isnt even a point to pay rush for this shit

the vicious mount is way more cooler

[fierce elm]

Why bother thinking about a mount you wont ever get

brother bear

[wheat jay]

Its ugly

As fuck

[wheat jay]

This is nice xD

[green wharf]

i would get if i paid for it though

[fierce elm]

Yeah sure lmao

butthen the complaint is "I wont even pay for this" lmao

[sharp meteor]

ya it fell off so hard they just churning out slop to appease the avg struggler

guys addon bad guys solo shuffle good

my name is bigmoran

[green wharf]

i mean thats the point, if it was cool i would pay for it

[fierce elm]

Which is against TOS lmao

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

: )

[green wharf]

with gold is fine

nerd

[green wharf]

the eel? they cute

[fierce elm]

Would need wintrading with yo yee yee ass GAMEPLAY

Also I am 43 hours into no nicotine and my head is starting to clear up slightly

[green wharf]

So, are you Ion hazzikostas or something

[urban skiff]

I like some of their videos and i like the idea.

I think the free stuff is very high value for people who struggle and are under average.

I don't like their predatory business plan. I would subscribe permanently to them out of principle if it was efficient

[exotic forge]

I see that Syeg is still complaining about the game

[green wharf]

if you consider complaining about the glad mount complaining about the game as a whole

i guess

[sharp meteor]

they just do what everybody does which is try to convince people their content is worth paying for when there's comparable or better free stuff out there

[green wharf]

the vicious mount i complimented, so we are in a kind of a weird spot

[sharp meteor]

like find some high glad or r1 streamer of ur spec to sit there and pester or watch gg

[wheat jay]

glad is ugly, eel is cool

[exotic forge]

Brother the only few times I've looked here I see you complaining about either the game, its rewards, arms or other classes, one or the other

You ain't fooling me

That being said, eel looks dope

I will get it

[sharp meteor]

bat would be sick if it was just one season

new mount every seas would be insane

[fierce elm]

You get the eel automatically

[sharp meteor]

3x recolors of a meh mount tho is bleh

[fierce elm]

like whatchu m e a n

[green wharf]

thats cuz you only come here a few times turist

[rancid granite]

lot of talk in here for WoW pvp being literally dead

LITERALLY

[wheat jay]

gotta q for it O_O

[fierce elm]

2 weeks announced

thats why

[sharp meteor]

ya from people who never played a dead game

although missin when 2s and 3s was better before shuff came and repladced it for most people

cos the mode doesnt require u be a good player or human to get queues

[green wharf]

Bat would be sick back in Legion, or with a burning legion themed expansion

[wheat jay]

oi

[exotic forge]

Cuz I ain't playing the game rn and life's more enjoyable that way

[sharp meteor]

[wheat jay]

i deserve me 2329 cr on ww i made a week ago

hello?

[sharp meteor]

i mean we got these big honkin underground caves

although i feel like we should see some flyin around idk

bat would be cool for a season wish it wasnt all 3 tho

like if we had a goblin mech for glad in s2 that'd be crazy

[green wharf]

but the mount is a fel bat

it could be gaygoyles in the zones

but they didnt even had the bother to put armor on then

[exotic forge]

Funny because m+ IS getting a goblin mech

Shit looks great

[fierce elm]

Cant theme the glad mounts obv

smh

now its BATS

[green wharf]

FEL bats

[exotic forge]

Because ffffffffuck you that's why

[green wharf]

despite not having fel shit in the game for three expansions

[exotic forge]

Glad Mount is a bat, game is unplayable WEHHH
Game ruined WEHHHHH

[green wharf]

[rancid granite]

games DYING

https://tenor.com/view/nollywood-cry-desespoir-black-boy-cry-black-kid-cry-gif-21448854

[sharp meteor]

need skillcapped to tell me what to think

[rancid granite]

im afraid to even look at the r/worldofpvp echo chamber of doom

[sharp meteor]

subreddit useless they just wail that there's not enough inflation

[urban skiff]

Eh, they're cooking something OK right now, like this new addon:
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1in32w1/openpvp_preview/

[rancid granite]

the duality of man

[sand sundial]

thats cool actually

[urban skiff]

yep

[fickle forge]

Ya'll remember when every mount in BFA was a protodrake

[hot solstice]

Yall remember when u could get glad in 2s?

[wheat jay]

yall remember when classes needed to press their abilities to do damage?

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[urban skiff]

I don't remember anything

[hot solstice]

is check pvp including alts into shuffle r1 cutoff?

[wheat jay]

possibly

[hot solstice]

@fierce elm rerolling next ssn?

[wheat jay]

Nice shoulders

Damn

[hot solstice]

free sockets in raid gear

meanwhile not 100% sure I wont throw all bloodstones I gathered so far...

[amber heron]

howcomw arms doesnt just run full mastery

like u get in for the kill anway

[true tiger]

haste stomps

[green wharf]

cuz you generate rage by auto attack and you need overpower procs

[hot solstice]

more haste - more slayer procs-more executes-more bladestorm+colosus resets

and overall its much more pleasant to play

I prefer my arms 25-30%haste

[amber heron]

you generate rage on charges

and bleeds

[hot solstice]

u troll if u take that talent

[sharp meteor]

haste slayer fury feels so mid

maybe mastery is bad but i feel like u gotta highroll people or somethin

arms needs too many stats to be good

[spice hornet]

It feels like my abilities don’t really do much meaningful damn outside of Bladestoem

Even tho I’m usually 1 in ST dam

Thane though you see the juicy rampage chop them up

[sand sundial]

Haste is very crucial

[spice hornet]

Bricked one of my warriors early in the season going all crit arms

Was awful

Can’t play it cause I don’t feel like rehearing it

Cause it feels so terrible to play

[sharp meteor]

ya crit too nerfed

[sand sundial]

Just get conquest on your other characters and buy transferable boxes

[spice hornet]

Yeah I was thinking of doing that but the rng is so trash on those and then needing crafted pieces further made that rng feel more bad

Almost a new season where I can just buy new

[amber heron]

@hot solstice @sand sundial

what if you run with a SP

and get PI?

[green wharf]

Its the only arms build that doesnt taste like dogpiss

[urban skiff]

Anyone have a simple WA that counts down how long until I exit combat if nothing happens?

[hot solstice]

Still haste

[urban skiff]

Is there a difference between what spec a disc priest should run if they aren't super good in 2s?

[sand sundial]

%95 run that black hole spec

It was actually fun asf to play

[urban skiff]

The top keeps playing the oracle thing

I suspect the other one might be better

she just wants to play overwatch mercy with a gun

Since I went feral with her, i figure I just dot stuff up and let her kill. Happy wife happy life

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-get-to-be-happy-if-i-cant-bailey-mohawk-girls-no-one-gets-to-be-happy-i-need-to-be-happy-too-gif-21181472

[fickle forge]

Void for 2s, oracle for rest

[urban skiff]

We faced a mirror of sorts and besides the fact I was dealing 30% more damage than their dps, their healer was doing almost 1:1 with the dps. If my wife could deal that kind of damage we'd win a lot more

[fickle forge]

Yes

Go void

You're supposed to play void

[urban skiff]

Any decent guides for that?

[fierce elm]

hit abilities

[urban skiff]

I cannot overstate how untrained she is

[fickle forge]

Put up atonement and press mind blast and void blast

[urban skiff]

And I'm not equipped to explain this shit to her either

[fickle forge]

It's literally that easy bro

You're a fistweaver with range

When you play aggro 2s comps, you just wanna pump damage for atonement heals, and then if your girl comes under pressure you start clone spamming and you'll win regardless

[urban skiff]

tbh we've won games where I felt I was spending the entire game just running around in circles

Suddenly something keels over despite their healer having plenty of mana and me not having used offensives or cc in ages

[fickle forge]

What mmr is that

[urban skiff]

was 1900, dropped to 1600 after a bad streak

daytime 2v2 is apparently very serious business

[hasty pulsar]

anyone have a macro I can copy for when you kill a dude (plants all the banners/flags, fireworks, etc) any help appreciated thanks

[urban skiff]

So you just want a macro that drops the flag?

[hasty pulsar]

all of toys and fireworks and stuff

[urban skiff]

because the problem is when you kill something you lose target so I can make something but it'll be clunky

[hasty pulsar]

giga macro

[urban skiff]

You could do something like

/use [dead] TOYNAME
/use [nodead] mortal strike

You could put in something that does a "/targetlasttarget [dead] " I think but adding target conditionals to targeting macros is weird because sometimes it checks what the lasttarget is and other times it executes the target macro if your current target fits the check

[sand sundial]

Game doesn't allow you to auto cast things like that

You need to press something regardless

[urban skiff]

yeah I think my solution is kind of functional but not really automatic

[hasty pulsar]

I just got killed by a rogue and he PLANTED 20 THINGS ON ME AND 20 FIREWORKS WENT OFF

INCLUDING FLAG OF OWNERSHIP

[urban skiff]

If I had peace and quiet I could make a few tests and craft the macro that is closest to functional

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1in32w1/openpvp_preview/

He might have been using this addon

Not 100% certain it works for this stuff because the post has more than 3 lines

[sterile moth]

How we doin warrior fam? Making the climb to glad/rank 1?!

[fierce elm]

So @urban skiff killed Orin

Jaheria didnt like that

[wheat jay]

did you tell baal to fuck off?

DID YOU!?

[urban skiff]

Proud of you bro, did you like the recommendation to go durge first play through?

[fierce elm]

I did not tell baal to fuck off lmao

I am officially evil

Gale judged me but told me he wasnt leaving

Jaheria is gonna die rn

I still havent looked at Gortesh inaguration

[wheat jay]

gay

puppet gamer

[fierce elm]

I am

did one turn Orin when she was in Slayer form

[fierce elm]

The Baal stuff was pretty sick in act 3

I did hit level 12 too

Astarion is just stacking Crit damage and lowering crit rolls

My Barb is just doing w.e hitting hard

Gale just blasts AoE

Karlach does fucking nothing

[urban skiff]

Take her out on a date, she cute asf

[fierce elm]

SHE IS USELESS

could be the build though

but SHE IS USELESS

[wheat jay]

you didnt have THE best cutscene in the game

you baal dog

smh

[fierce elm]

Look man, my guy is evil

thats okay

and Baal seems like a cool guy

[wheat jay]

weak mindset

[fierce elm]

He seems like a chad

Did kill Saverok though

I got my eyes on Raphael now

and Minsc

I need that gold

[wheat jay]

he's not tho lol

[fierce elm]

cant hear you over the sick gear

also slayer form kinda cool

[frigid meadow]

guys if u want to get this helm, what helm i need to buy before with conquest? or the stats doesn't matter?

[fierce elm]

whatever conquest helm

Assuming taht is the set helmet

[frigid meadow]

yes

[fierce elm]

yeah then stats pre doesnt matter

[frigid meadow]

ty

[sterile moth]

Minsc and Boo! Classic

[urban skiff]

You can throw boo

[inner sigil]

in a duel does enhancement shaman defeat fury wariror

[fierce elm]

probably

[inner sigil]

what abt frost dk

[buoyant chasm]

Hey guys, what rating you think is needed to get hero of the ally/horde in blitz?

[wheat jay]

possibly

[torn sigil]

It says on the official armory

[urban skiff]

fuck yes

[buoyant chasm]

Ty

But why it says 0.1% on armory while achiev say 0.5%?

[fickle forge]

We're so back team

[hasty pulsar]

Just glad colossus got some compensation buffs for the nerf to colossal might acquisition

[brazen rock]

@galachad we're so back

wait where is he

[idle falcon]

WERE SO BACK

[idle falcon]

im here

[sand sundial]

we are soooo fucking back

[sand sundial]

demolish %30 is cracked

what the fuckkk

[idle falcon]

fury also got buffed

[sterile moth]

Kinda

[sand sundial]

big for thane

[sterile moth]

Nerfed strength of the mountain

Thunder blast is pretty big though

Colossus tho…woot

[hasty pulsar]

Demolish needed it to be honest it has always hit hard, but a feeling of demolishing a dude with it hasn’t really been there for me personally

[sterile moth]

For sure

[boreal veldt]

[sterile moth]

Demolish does get storm of destro slow now too which may help land it but…really need to do it into a stun either way

[inner sigil]

when is this

[boreal veldt]

any news on glyphing out that new god awful CS animation?

[sand sundial]

theyre looking ,nto the anim

[boreal veldt]

well thats something i guess

[inner sigil]

is that this tuesday or 11.1

[hasty pulsar]

11.1

[sand sundial]

11.1

12 days

[exotic forge]

Arms warrior buffs

[sterile moth]

Do we know when season ends?

[exotic forge]

25th of this month

[green wharf]

i was so mad that i saw slam buffed again

but i remembered this post is for all the ptr

that we saw so far, not additional changes

[buoyant chasm]

Anyone can help with this question? ❤️

[sharp meteor]

TWENTY

PERCENT

[rancid granite]

they acknowledged its awful

so thats something

[green wharf]

they now will change the ghostly spectral weapons to red

[rancid granite]

lmao that could actually happen

[boreal veldt]

turns out a rushed looking nonsensical "throw a bunch of weapons in it" visual got some bad feedback lol

shocked dot jpeg

[rancid granite]

didnt even look like a WoW animation tbh

[boreal veldt]

i saw a lot of people saying that too, big agree

big dunk + ground break + maybe a lil blood and thunder

[fickle forge]

Don't let this guy cook

[green wharf]

why not

it looks much better

[fickle forge]

If you like anime maybe

You'll also never see this in WoW's engine

[green wharf]

You cant rly pull that card anymore with how wow went after some years

especially seeing the anime ghost weapons

better to ahve good anime animations than bad anime animation

[rancid granite]

FF animations would look pretty great if dialed back like 75%

[brazen rock]

@idle falcon what am i playing s2

fury or arms

[rancid granite]

arms

if you want the meta spec

[fickle forge]

Or

Better

No ghost weapons

[hasty pulsar]

they need to fix execute animation again bring back the horizontal sweep when sweeping strikes is active

[idle falcon]

fury

always fury

[brazen rock]

😎

[green wharf]

i dont see ghost weapons in the FF animations though

it basically swining your sword so heavy it explode fire/lightining

peak warrior

[fickle forge]

Yeah so anime basically

I'd say just go play FF14 for that

[civic scarab]

How good do you guys think those arms buffs are?

I was planning on maining arms next season and these buffs got me more hyped up

[sharp meteor]

arms gonna slap

[wheat jay]

Demolish into ms will just 100-0 people

Not even joking

[green wharf]

Wow basically you mean

cause we already do that with tclap

odyn fury

dragon roar

[fickle forge]

It already does

[sterile moth]

Who runs OF and DR

[wheat jay]

Won't have to crit now

[fickle forge]

Most commonly I hit 2.5M or so non-crit

[sand sundial]

GW2

[fickle forge]

With all 3 hits

And then roughly 4.5M if everything crits

So yeah it's pretty much a one shot with buffs

[slow solstice]

hi

i think im going to quit 2400

[fickle forge]

????

No?

[slow solstice]

yes

maybe this weekend i just spam

but after

idk

[fickle forge]

Did you drop?

[slow solstice]

havent queued since the last time

jsut dont really feel like learning pvp

[fickle forge]

It's now that the ladder moves

[slow solstice]

why is that

[fickle forge]

Last 2 weeks of the season

Because it's the last push

[slow solstice]

is now the time to queue

[fickle forge]

People Q for rank 1 and rewards and that moves the ladder

[slow solstice]

but that shouldnt change me trying to get 2400?

[lucid walrus]

it does more than you think

[slow solstice]

ill give shot saturday and sun

[lucid walrus]

some of the most memorable queues come from pushing on the last couple days

worth a shot if you feel up to it

[green wharf]

unranked btw

[torn sigil]

first game will always take that long

because its matching you with other people who have never played

[green wharf]

it was the second

damn one lost game and you lose 321 mmv

wtf?

and it was pretty close match

[torn sigil]

the game doesnt know your mmr

it assumed 2k and you lost to 1700s so you get -300

the more games you play the closer it will get to your ''true'' mmr

[green wharf]

usually i win and lose 100mmv in those

but losing 300 is the first time

[urban skiff]

ready for the protpocalypse?

[sharp meteor]

my spec bout to get sent to the shadow realm

actually gonna be viable if it isnt giganerfed

[urban skiff]

they also gave vengeance +20%

[fickle forge]

They buffed all tanks

[deft wharf]

only way prot returns is if blizzard throws us all into a wormhole back to wotlk

I miss memeing people with 100% arp shield slams

[urban skiff]

Warlords was better

[deft wharf]

warlords had like one season at best, wotlk was entire xpac

sbv in s1/part of s2 or all of it, s3/4 arp prot was actually arena viable

legion prot in wpvp was insane too, so was prot in cata before vengeance not working in pvp

could just wade into groups and use their dps to kill their healer and then play whackamole after

vengeance ap worked for scaling for h bonelink fetish too

juicy 10k+ hits in aoe

[green wharf]

if i can fuck people over in wpvp then prot is doing fine

[rancid granite]

and bring back the engineer rocket gauntlet thing while we're at it

loved my prot warr in wotlk; coming back a buncha expacs later everything was so different 😭

[urban skiff]

100% arp just hit differently on my feral

[rancid granite]

i finished getting sub rogue to 2100

ret/arms/fury/assa/outlaw/sub 💪

[green wharf]

wish i could do that with prot

on blitz

the q times are just too big

[wheat jay]

i was close to 2400 on ww

but dropped 120 XD

[sand sundial]

I just want mage and DK

Most of the sets are so ugly

[rancid granite]

after doing that on my warr i think i gave up for the season lmao

maybe now that im 2100 ill Q arms for fun for the next 2 weeks

or maybe sub to get crests for ilvl

[wheat jay]

i havent gotten 2400 yet

[rancid granite]

but hitting 2100 goals means i can Q for fun and not care about 2400 :D

[wheat jay]

dont rly care

i just had fun on monk xD

[rancid granite]

yeah exactly

Q for fun try to win and if 2400 happens it happens :b

[wheat jay]

did some 3s with kargish

and we played at 2100mmr with new comp xD

[green wharf]

mage one is pretty ugly isnt

[sand sundial]

Full set is

You never full set on mage

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm any tips for breaking my bench plateau? I'm so damn close to my next goal but I keep missing it by very little. Do swap one of my other days for an extra bench day? Do I try some gimmick "bench every day" program for a few weeks or months?

[fierce elm]

Do you just wanna peak and hit it

or do you wanna be able to hit it consistently

If 2nd, don't do a gimmick program or a peak program

if first, do a peak program lmao

[urban skiff]

I just want to smash through it and then chill. My max has been going up consistently over the last 2 rounds of 531 but I missed a new record last week and this week

[fierce elm]

Figure out your weakpoint

work on that part specifically

[urban skiff]

My weak point is my hands get exhausted or my left hip flexor cramping or losing my shoulder contact to the bench or all other weird bullshit reasons that only seems to happen once every year

[fierce elm]

lmao

This sounds like bs excuses

[urban skiff]

it probably is

[fierce elm]

It is

Find your actual weakpoint

[urban skiff]

Maybe I just want to be told it's going to be fine. I was just so sure i'd get it today. All the stars aligned. test peaked, trained during the hour where the elvanse peaked, no kids home to distract

😦

[fierce elm]

Yeah and you missed it

smh

[urban skiff]

Tbh I did have a pretty physical day at work, lots and lots of walking with a gps stick in freezing weather

but that shouldn't be it

Or rather, I don't want it to be it

Oh well

@green wharf You know why barbarians can't keep their hands off their axes?

||It's got something to do with the cleavage...||

[sterile moth]

@urban skiff everything is going to be fine. Just respect the day, keep training hard and manage recovery.

[fickle forge]

Closing in on it

[hot solstice]

why?

[fickle forge]

Wdym why

[hot solstice]

go r1

[fickle forge]

That's what I'm aiming for

[sterile moth]

Slayer?

[fickle forge]

Colossus

[sterile moth]

What a stud

[rancid granite]

honor shouldn't reset with new season right? and I hear crafted items are gonna keep the same sockets

pretty cool stuff it seems

[urban skiff]

sort of

honor doesn't reset. Crafted gear probabl won't keep sockets, I fully expect it to lose sockets when you recraft

But the base materials for next season sockets is going to probably be the same

[rancid granite]

right on

[echo aspen]

demolish looking nice in s2 boys

[true tiger]

no way

gotta be 5 sec cast

[echo aspen]

thats only the last hit lmao

[urban skiff]

the buffed the first hits too

for anyone wondering

[rancid granite]

what if they buffed warrior like a 5/10 value and every other class 9/10 value

[urban skiff]

eh

[rancid granite]

[urban skiff]

I'm about 99% sure the buff to feral was too little

call it intuition but my experience tells me feral scales worse than just 8%

[rancid granite]

and then what about the 1-2 week hotbuff patches and nerfs and buffs

[urban skiff]

I mean, they're worse than 8% behind others in scaling

more buffs to bleeds and nerfs to shred

😄

[rancid granite]

i went back sub rogue and sold off my outlaw/assa gear before i remembered theyre getting rid of w/e the abilitiy is called

shadowy duel

ability was so fun 😭

i just want my classes to be good no one elses

[fickle forge]

Play BM then

[rancid granite]

sounds absolutely awful :p

[echo aspen]

arms stonks are rising up in season 2

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-hart-no-you-didnt-gif-12770214

[boreal veldt]

aw they fixed my forsaken racial tech

[urban skiff]

aww

how does it work?

I assume we can still use it a little while longer

[boreal veldt]

it used to be able to take 30 sec off trinket cd if you use it on cd after you trinket

was great for warr cause it's basically a dead racial otherwise

[urban skiff]

is it fixed on live or 11.1?

[boreal veldt]

on ptr

[urban skiff]

so you trinket and then pop the racial immediately after?

[boreal veldt]

yeah as soon as it comes up

[sand sundial]

interesting

[urban skiff]

I assume it doesn't work for healers?

[boreal veldt]

oh no it worked for every class of forsaken

[urban skiff]

healer has 1½ min cd on trinket instead of 2 min

I figure the forsaken racial won't reduce that to 1 minute

[green wharf]

But they refuse to nerf shadowmeld

fucking cowards

[boreal veldt]

[urban skiff]

Make shadowmeld work like it works right now but combat only drops after 3 seconds inside shadowmeld

[boreal veldt]

it'd reduce it to 30 sec

[urban skiff]

tbh

[boreal veldt]

but no lower than 30 sec

that's kind of part of the glitch, if trink's cd is lower than 30 sec, wotf will bring it back up to 30sec like intended

[green wharf]

what pisses me off mostly

is how shadowmeld is broken in both pve and pvp

and they dont do anything

hardness was only strong in pvp and quickly got the nerf bat

[fierce elm]

So hit the mirror

succeded the throws

game crashed poost throws

I give up

autosave is pre-rolls

[urban skiff]

Respec a garbage companion to bard and bring them for inspiration

[fierce elm]

No lmao

I gave up rn

[urban skiff]

Inspiration,enhance ability, put guidance neck on another companion. Int headpiece if you have it.

Now you're very close to guaranteed

[fierce elm]

I hate thod

[urban skiff]

Rogues can 100% it at level 11

[fierce elm]

this

a job for tomorrow

also day 4 with no nicotine and I feel fine

[urban skiff]

My last honor mode run i got 4/4 mirror enhancements my spec also got the +1 cha. And i didn't do anything fucky with respecs or have a bard with me

[fierce elm]

gonna do house of hope first

and the submarine

[urban skiff]

I allied with gortash so i skipped iron throne and the robo factory

[wheat jay]

Ayyyy

[urban skiff]

I should get the Mummy house done but i don't really need it for this run. No necromancer

[wheat jay]

#1 game mission

[urban skiff]

That final song is just..

[fierce elm]

Gonna fuck that dude over

[urban skiff]

Fun fact, he likes durge. A lot.

[fierce elm]

Yeah was at the inaguration

He is gonna die still

[wheat jay]

REAL

[urban skiff]

I never kill him. He's kind of cute

[fierce elm]

dying

[sterile moth]

No way demolish goes live hitting for 11 million?

[wheat jay]

Who?

[rancid granite]

how much HP and stuff we having in s2 tho

[wheat jay]

Gortash?

[wheat jay]

Like 11mil or so

[rancid granite]

11m on training dummies is what dmg on normal players then

👀

nevermind we'll see soon enough

[civic scarab]

Does our honor and conquest go back to zero once the new season start?

[sharp meteor]

honor is only wiped between expacs but conq is every season

along with bloody tokens

[civic scarab]

Ok thank you for clearing that up!

[green wharf]

https://x.com/i/status/1890131618125475920

Orgrim Coomhammer (@coomhammer_) on X

you absolute gooner

X · Feb 13, 2025, 8:11 PM

@urban skiff care to explain this bro?

[urban skiff]

Yes. I am obviously too cool for school

[green wharf]

you know what would be cool, balance aside

a talent that make you build up rage outside combat, so you could start at full rage

[bright kraken]

the mmr pov 😭

@fickle forge @wheat jay look at this shit

[fickle forge]

You're cooked

It's over for you now

[bright kraken]

:sobsob:

tbf better than yoyoing 2.1k mmr and 1.9k mmr on ret

[fierce elm]

cooked

[bright kraken]

cocked

[fierce elm]

blocked

[bright kraken]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278250783795576866/1298398521916919942/bafkreih7bcu7aosojx33qlcta35bv2v34c64zhtkqziy3mpfnbh5dm7lvajpeg.gif

[fickle forge]

You going 2.4k again Vesa?

[bright kraken]

i already got that shit in blitz as surv because im a fucking beta

[fickle forge]

You said it not us

But I agree

[bright kraken]

just getting my 1.8k sets

[wheat jay]

Blitz is also more inflated by like 1000

[bright kraken]

i left war to the end because that would be one of the easiest

[fickle forge]

I'm trynna go R1 in shuffle rn

[bright kraken]

dude feral was misery 😭

i thinnk i enjoyed it more than sub tho ngl

my order this season was hunt > mage > shaman > dk > rogue > monk > druid > war

[fickle forge]

Did you play BM?

[bright kraken]

got an evoker im gonna run with tari and a lock that's geared but probably not getting lock done tbh

and then dh and priest are probably too far gone

[fierce elm]

Karg cant read

[fickle forge]

Okay

But

Did she play BM?

Crazy concept, but Blizz actually made it so your rating's separated between specs on the same class

[fickle forge]

There's no shot you two are playing together after dodging each other for a year

[fierce elm]

Crazy concept, but doubt she would play BM if she hit 2.4k as survival

[fickle forge]

Crazy concept, but she may still have

[fierce elm]

crazy concept, your mom

[wheat jay]

Shut up afro you're a baal nerd

[bright kraken]

no i played surv and then briefly mm when i dropped from 2367 to 1800 then back to surv when on mm i dropped from 1900 to 1800

[wheat jay]

600 drop?

Jesus christ

[bright kraken]

yeah

[fickle forge]

Never change your name man

[bright kraken]

bro it was horrendous

[bright kraken]

took me TWO FUCKING WEEKS TO RECOVER THAT SHIT

AND I WAS NONSTOP QUEUEING

RAAAAAA

[fickle forge]

We're gonna have to dub this the Vesa effect soon

[wheat jay]

Actually true

[bright kraken]

bruh

[wheat jay]

We had that happen to us before we even knew vesa

The OGs

[fickle forge]

Ours was way less drastic, and it could per chance be dubbed the Artji effect

[wheat jay]

We dropped 400 tho

[fickle forge]

No we did not

200

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-fire-fire-winter-see-girl-gif-20701858

[bright kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-happy-easter-gif-25371743

[wheat jay]

Near 2500 to 2100?

[fickle forge]

We didn't do that

[fickle forge]

She's back ya'll

Where's your Demolish button

[bright kraken]

im playing slayer

idk that was the build linked in pins

[wheat jay]

We did have a big drop once

Where you slammed the desk

[fickle forge]

Yeah please stick to it as well

I would fold if you played colossus

[bright kraken]

oh okay

why

[rancid granite]

i was looking for the demolish button too lol

[bright kraken]

which build is better???

is demolish the good one??/

[hot solstice]

demolish is cheese

[bright kraken]

oh

[hot solstice]

u get crit demo into mortal - u win

slayer is more sustain

but overall both r bad this ssn

[bright kraken]

i mean im just playing arms because i have more experience with it

only spec iv'e ever hit 2.4k in shuffle with so

[hot solstice]

fury isnt hard

[rancid granite]

slayer/col is like 50/50 on murlok innit

[bright kraken]

yeah but it feels funky to me

also... bladestorm

well. i dont think that's a valid argument anymore

fuck

[hot solstice]

ppl go thane

[rancid granite]

vesa is an elite player she can handle arms

[hot solstice]

I am just saying fury is easier. U can still get high as arms, but u will depend more on lobbies

hopefully tables will turn next ssn (things look broken already on ptr)

[rancid granite]

fury is like S arms like A dats not a big diff anyway

[green wharf]

arms is like A-ss

got em

[sand sundial]

play thane

[wheat jay]

Unironically better than most here

And 100% most persistent lol

[fierce elm]

I thin kthe game is starting to end @wheat jay

Killed Raphael

and cleared that area

Havent killed Gortesh yet

I got like Iron throne and the Watch thing in my quest log

dribbles the clown

We are fully stacked in gear

[rancid granite]

yeah definitely has the spirit thats the most important part

[wheat jay]

Goated music, right?

[rancid granite]

2200 3-3 and got +40 rating is this the end of season inflation stuff

[wheat jay]

Raphael is afucking Disney Princess xD

[rancid granite]

maybe i should go for 2400 after all

[fierce elm]

Raphael got SMOKED as fuck

dude stood no fucking chance

Finally respecced away from Barbarian because I wanted to use his armor

[wheat jay]

Next step is to play the better game

Divinity original sin 2

[fickle forge]

It takes some skill to pull off

And slayer is completely braindead

Easy value

[bright kraken]

https://youtu.be/8jHE7kZR6Eg?si=O9BBegX8-47yNGdF

me tryna figure out which hero spec is the not shit one

[fickle forge]

They're both fine

Colossus is just a bit better when you maximize it

But not everyone can maximize it, you actually gotta active 3 brain cells for it

[rancid granite]

maximize aka push demolish when it lights up

[fickle forge]

And then miss it because you didn't cover it

At least next season colossus arms may be the meta and way to go

These buffs are pretty fat

[fierce elm]

finished that one like 9 times

and the first one

i like bg3 more tbh

[wheat jay]

meh

i liked dos2 more, due to combat

and more interesting map design

[rancid granite]

go for final fantasy tactics next

[fierce elm]

next game is Kingdom Come Deliverance 2

Until new subclasses for BG3 then its multiplayer BG3

[bright kraken]

too ez

@fickle forge @wheat jay asterisk is geared but haven't started on the set yet

priest and DH i don't even have at max level yet

[sterile moth]

Morning!

[urban skiff]

This fucking thing

[fallen estuary]

you can leave out DH and evoker

noone will make fun of you those classes sets are trash lol

[boreal veldt]

at least on the ptr i can confirm a well done demo + ms can 80-0 very consistently

[fickle forge]

They will likely nerf Demolish in PvP

[rancid granite]

fineprint: with bless's personal stat build

man ive been rockin on arms/sub rogue

swap to fury once 0-6

😭

[wheat jay]

lmao

[urban skiff]

idk how but my wife is struggling really badly with making use of voidweaver in 2v2

Says she feels like she has no buttons to press to heal people when shield and penance are gone?

[fierce elm]

she do damage

She is disc

hit damage buttons

[urban skiff]

she gets stunned first and kicked after and it's pretty much gg

but we're doing testruns in skirmish and a 3v3 setting is just worse for weaver I guess, but I'm not expecting that alone to kill the potential

Is there like a stable combo or a priority she should be focusing on?

[fierce elm]

gotta ask the priest cord for that brother bear

[urban skiff]

Like on my feral I almost always rake slash moonfire rip almost like it's one long cast

[urban skiff]

I'm feeling betrayed

what has the dark urge done to you??

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

this was her when healing me BEFORE I made her go emo btw

[fierce elm]

lmao

STOP ROLEPLAYING

[urban skiff]

I can't!

She can't

[wheat jay]

Whiteheart > shadowheart

[fierce elm]

Deadheart

[wheat jay]

You're wack

[fierce elm]

deadheart

[wheat jay]

You made the most bitchmade playthrough

[fierce elm]

lmao

Only bad boys in my party

[urban skiff]

M8

I made her good

I made her love me

Then I handed her over to mother superior

[wheat jay]

If you betrayed her

Then you just betrayed me

Bruh

[fickle forge]

The healing is damage

That's why it's good with feral, because disc can allow to do damage then

[urban skiff]

yea I get that

but if damage is hard to do they have very little to fall back on?

[torn sigil]

That's the spec

[sterile moth]

Are shields the oh shit button on disc?

[urban skiff]

I don't think so?

[sterile moth]

I made an alt holy paladin just to do my part for shuffle queues. It was weird using melee wings damage to heal but kinda fun. At the end of the day, I realized I need to get better at warrior before I worry about an alt. I will say it helped my awareness and gave me some empathy for what healers go through. Made me more mindful of what needs to happen to win

[hollow plover]

This might be a dumb question, but im about to roll arms as an alt after getting to elite in blitz on shadow. Do i need a shield for pvp, and is there any other info to get other than talents from murlok?

[urban skiff]

nop

Using a shield benefits your opponents more than you

[hollow plover]

thought so, tyvm

[urban skiff]

Hey guys

What boss music plays when you charge your enemies?

On their side, i mean

[fierce elm]

https://youtu.be/qyYmS_iBcy4?si=oVfvc6kRhqT_4bnm&t=314

[urban skiff]

I like to imagine they hear this when i walk into the arena

https://youtu.be/EyZaNx8T-fM

[fierce elm]

nerd

[hollow plover]

isnt the answer obvious, either banger from John Williams, Duel of the Fates or Cantina Band

[fickle forge]

You are what she falls back on

You clone spam to relieve pressure

If you want I can link my healer's stream, he often plays 2s disc @urban skiff

[hot solstice]

old good running in circles till next incarn always works

[urban skiff]

sure

[urban skiff]

I'm apparently not masochistic enough so I'm going to play druid of the claw for a while

and just have a passive 195% movement speed at all times

can't wait for 11.1 talents, having to get wild growth to get to typhoon is lunacy 😦

[quiet dagger]

hows the state of Arms Warrior PVP next patch looking to be? Curious as a first time Arms Warr PVPer

[fierce elm]

Its either good bad or middle of the pack

[fickle forge]

It is a spec

[quiet dagger]

I should rephrase that, how significant have changes been, and how easy is it to play

[fierce elm]

Well, no buttons ahve been added

so about as easy as it is right now, which isnt hard

the changes have been significant in damage output but so has every other spec

So unfortunately the answer we can give you is that it is a spec

in terms of ease of play, its about as easy as it is right now

[quiet dagger]

Sick then I shouldnt have a terrible time getting to 1800 as a casual then, that elite set looks incredible

[fierce elm]

it should be no worry brother bear

[quiet dagger]

pvp intimidates the hell out of me but the mog is worth the effort

[urban skiff]

huh

[urban skiff]

looks so good it's going to turn out bad

blizz will mess it up somehow

[sand sundial]

Warrior is one of if not the easiest to hit 1800

[green wharf]

when i was climbing blitz with fury, my internet died when i was 1773

thn my mmr got fucked and i had to climb with arms

1716 as arms internet died again

[quiet dagger]

ill take word for it, I just wanna see big MS crits on my way to get the mog

[green wharf]

so i said fuck it and got with prot

[vivid flower]

hope you all having fun out there

because im not

[urban skiff]

what minimum number of wins do you need in shuffle and blitz to get 1800?

[vivid flower]

probably about 60?

end of season so its a lot easier than earlier in the exp

sorry 60 in SS i didnt check blitz

[lucid walrus]

depends a lot on starting mmr but i'd think going 30-0 in shuffle would let you ride the +384 almost all the way up

60 sounds low enough for a solid player

[urban skiff]

supposedly, and this is wholly unsupported right now, it takes as many positive wins to go from 1600 to 1800 as 0 to 1600

[lucid walrus]

that would make sense

[urban skiff]

and supposedly, 1800 to 1950 is the same as 0 to 1800

I think the system is sort of breaking down and doesn't have enough participants to support that

[lucid walrus]

assuming the same winrate right?

[urban skiff]

not exactly

[spice hornet]

You can do it in like 4 rounds lol

[urban skiff]

you mean 24 rounds

not as much win rate as having x number of wins more than losses.

[spice hornet]

4 lobbies

[urban skiff]

yea

but I'm dumber than the average fury player on a good day

and playing feral in low lobbies is going to suuuuuuuuck

[sand sundial]

Fury is a little more straightforward. Just make sure to line up your cooldowns

Mage though

I gotta learn how to play this class lol

[torn sigil]

Spam frostfire

[sand sundial]

Insta kicked

[torn sigil]

Uh oh

[sand sundial]

It's over

[torn sigil]

Imagine not blinking while casting

Imagine not blinking 5 times

[sand sundial]

I did say I'm a noob

[torn sigil]

Imagine not iceblocking twice

[sand sundial]

Do you shimmer behind and instantly turn around

Lol

Shit has 3x the buttons lol I think I'll need a simpler ui

My normal keybind don't fit this class

[fickle forge]

Spam frostfire

Collect elo

[slow solstice]

i played 2s today

with a random i met in goldshire

[fickle forge]

This is very concerning

[slow solstice]

got a dance as well

[fickle forge]

You better have gotten an IRL dance bro

You didn't boost somebody for pixel booty did you

[slow solstice]

didnt ask about irl but they were a girl

nah they were 2100 shuffle

real human

just cursed 2 bm lobbies

also why would you ever play outlaw holy

like wtf is thay

[fickle forge]

You surely didn't boost somebody for pixel booty

[slow solstice]

no

i did not

!

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-no-one-asked-crazy-gif-9882921979651184858

So you boosted an egirl from Goldshire for an ingame lap dance

[slow solstice]

i might queue again tomorrow

how is it boost if we are same rating

???

[fickle forge]

Cause she's from Goldshire dude

[slow solstice]

mb

[fickle forge]

You think you're the first to boost her?

[slow solstice]

no

[fickle forge]

Trust no one from Goldshire

[slow solstice]

censored

[fickle forge]

And never go there

What MMR did ya'll play on

[wheat jay]

Bruh

You need to respect yourself

Inb4 it was Vesa

[slow solstice]

1800ish

but i think it got to 2100

we won

[fickle forge]

So it was a boost then

Smh

Ma man really fell this far

[slow solstice]

bruh

bow

[fickle forge]

Not that I blame you man

[slow solstice]

i will be returning to shuffle soon

[fickle forge]

™

[rancid granite]

im debating maining sub rogue for s2 myself

[green wharf]

Shouldnt this be hella strong?

for fury by example, increasing mastery and verst

or haste+verst for arms

[spice hornet]

So many roots that gnome is just too good

But I could see that being sleeper

[boreal veldt]

it's a nice lil trinket esque cd

[green wharf]

on a shadowpriest my haste goes from 8% to 18% with that

[boreal veldt]

on arms you can definitely get a nice personal bloodlust after a csmash/IFTK

running haste obv

[boreal veldt]

i didn't read it right, it's a 50/50 though right? either vers or the other stat

if it were both it'd be goated

[green wharf]

it is one yeah, but still seems pretty powerful

[green wharf]

24% verst to 32% daym

[oblique ferry]

Can't seem to do any effective damage these days. Getting frustrated.

[sharp meteor]

it is

lil awk on warr cos doesnt rly sync up tho

also gnome goated

[urban skiff]

man starting mmr getting out of hand

lmao 3-3 and lose almost 200 mmr

[fickle forge]

Yep

That's the curse of playing in a lower mmr lobby

[urban skiff]

I can acknowledge it's not my fault

but still don't feel great that I'm struck by a truck immediately after going in by facing a 0-6 healer

I'll recover

might get a few 6-0 games eventually if I can ever figure out feral

every single round was 1 minute or less lol

[dense herald]

isnt troll racial 15% haste

so that would be better