pvp

[vapid tartan]

only on an fc map in rbg

[urban skiff]

Nah man. Force tanks in every bg.

They're cc and utility machines. They only make bgs more interesting

[slow solstice]

enh is fun in keys

[urban skiff]

Enh is fun everywhere.

Enh is the true beast. End game boss of pvp

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff started the shadow area yesterday

Slammed some spider looking dood

[urban skiff]

Fuck yeah

Stupid sexy driders

[fierce elm]

or rather, I called him ugly multiple times

and we fought

Its a real spooky area ngl

[urban skiff]

It's a fucking great area

Imho of the game ended after act2 it would still be perfect in every way. Act2 is about the same size as in time/content as act1+2 together

[jovial torrent]

whats ur specs btw zercher? grabbing mh myself

[urban skiff]

4070 ti super and 7600x

32gb of 5600 RAM iirc

I think cpu is holding me back a lot atm. Plus running ultra wide is eating up a lot of by gpu budget for no real benefit other that pretty

[jovial torrent]

very noice, i need to grab a ssd to back all my stuff up so i can update cpu bios

i got one of the 13/14 gen that could have the degrading problem they patched

[urban skiff]

Fuck rip

I'm never going intel again.

[jovial torrent]

yeh, if i ever do get that degrading problem im switching to amd

and my next comp will be, but i wont need a new comp for atleast like 5 years

[wheat jay]

And he's dark urge

He doesn't know

This is the act where he finds out we pranked him into playing dark urge

[urban skiff]

All those hours spent playing

[urban skiff]

9800x3d and 5090 or equivalents when my wife finishes school in a years time.

Turn my current pc into guest/kids station

[jovial torrent]

i need to look up some of the spicy 5090's ive only seen their basic founder design one

my body is ready

[urban skiff]

Haha

[slow solstice]

am i fucked in mhwilds with a 13100f

[urban skiff]

Bro i have no idea what intel numbers mean

[slow solstice]

4 small cores

[urban skiff]

Still no clue.

I don't know what any of this computer stuff means. I just memorized a few lists to pretend i'm part of it

[slow solstice]

XDDDDDD

[jovial torrent]

the speed on the 13100f looks pretty good tbh

wilds has to run on xbox and ps5 so should be fine

i wana run it at 165 fps so im probs guna turn shadows and somthing else down

[slow solstice]

ill run the benchmark and see how fucked i am

[jovial torrent]

u can get the benchmark on steam directly

it was about 25gb i think

[slow solstice]

just dont feel like getting out of bed yet

slept 4 hours after trying to reclear queen with a guild im filling

i just wanted to show up and crank

pull boss is at 5.5% we miss an essence with everyone alive

.....

[jovial torrent]

ive been slacking on wow , been on marvel rivals alot

and then monster hunter guna yoink my time, are we looking to be sticking with fury next season?

[slow solstice]

🔮

[jovial torrent]

havent looked to see if any major warrior reworks were coming

[slow solstice]

they are a lot of buffs

#updates-midnight

[urban skiff]

Can't we turn on rt+framegen?

[fickle forge]

50% buff to fury exe?

Yeah it's over

[slow solstice]

i mean i just am going to ignore but talent changes everything until day of raid

[jovial torrent]

not sure tbh, i havent really used framegen features much in games, only tried the AI one on diablo 4

[fickle forge]

Yeah I'm just saying man, Exe already hits for good amount rn

Arms was the one needing that Exe buff for PvP

[slow solstice]

not in pve

[fickle forge]

They didn't stamp it with the 'not in PvP' line, so we gonna see some insane Exe hits from fury, while arms is still playing DF

[slow solstice]

arms needs to be shot

[fickle forge]

We'll live the bullet, unlike fury

[idle falcon]

50% execute buff for fury

ITS GUNNA BE LIT

2 MILLION EXECUTE CRIT INCOMING

[idle falcon]

no?

not in PvE atleast

it sucked ass

[green wharf]

slayer can do an average execute

but nothing crazy

[green wharf]

heh, doubt, 50% increase in a shit damage when classes will get more health and armor

[idle falcon]

🙏

[fickle forge]

Look the channel you in

[idle falcon]

still

:(

[fickle forge]

Fury already doing 1.6M-2M Exe

Now it gets a 50% buff

[slow solstice]

thats poggers

🙂

[idle falcon]

real

[green wharf]

2m?

[idle falcon]

never have i ever hit a 2 million execute

most is 1.2 million

[fickle forge]

I've hit 2M

Spear go

[idle falcon]

:susge:

yes but very little use spear

[fickle forge]

Spear is meta

[green wharf]

"meta"

i see more people ditching to get the haste talent

i always find spear trash, since you need the second talent to make last more than a fart

[fickle forge]

So pick 2nd talent

Fury is broken, you can pick whatever you want, but Spear is the better capstone

[green wharf]

no, cause that means less good talents

if spear worked like shaman earthquase

[slow solstice]

?

[green wharf]

where you can chose to throw in an area

or throw at someone

it would be dope

[fickle forge]

There are no other good talents to pick

You can go 2% haste

Nice?

[green wharf]

only 19 people think that

[fickle forge]

Let em'

It ain't better

Either way, Spear is played and Exe is still hitting hard on fury

[lavish quest]

I use spear as thane fury

It's nice pinning people in place again

[slow solstice]

hi

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-not-true-you're-wrong-charlie-finestkind-you're-lying-it's-not-possible-gif-8196339525240578068

[slow solstice]

hi

[copper fox]

Imagine not playing spear

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-bear-gif-26390359

[slow solstice]

hi i got queen to 5%

[copper fox]

Fuuuuuuuu

How many attempts

[slow solstice]

uh

idk

[green wharf]

[slow solstice]

filling with a guild on reclear

[copper fox]

Pain

[lavish quest]

Yuge

Massive

[slow solstice]

we pulled 16 yesterday

[lavish quest]

I won 4 blitz in a row last night. That's my crowning achieve. Trying help my cuz get 1950 for the season when neither of us playing wow a ton kek

[lavish quest]

Are you still raiding 60 hrs a week?

[elfin surge]

[slow solstice]

no

[wheat jay]

Wanna boost me?

Last two bosses

[lavish quest]

Are you still depressed?

[wheat jay]

No guarantees that i wont steal the mount tho

[slow solstice]

always have been

[slow solstice]

you could prob do better than the shitty outlaw we have dying every pull on ansurek

[wheat jay]

Lmao ye

Get me in

[slow solstice]

its legit just am fury

[wheat jay]

Ill outdps you on arms

Ez

[slow solstice]

foubt

[wheat jay]

Try me

[fickle forge]

Artji does damage on arms until the enemies can suddenly move and think

[wheat jay]

Real

[lavish quest]

Artji hit 1800, he's kind of a big deal

[wheat jay]

I hit that on 4 characters

2100 on two xD

And if I actually bothered to q id probably get glad with kargish

But man that mount is so ugly i dont even want to get it xD

[fickle forge]

The bat within

[lavish quest]

Oh shit, we have a big chungus here

[fierce elm]

huge

[fierce elm]

also no

[lavish quest]

Next season's 3k io mount is the real glad mount bois

[fierce elm]

Imagine playing wow rn

[wheat jay]

Just because you had 20% winrate doesnt mean others do too

[fierce elm]

so many games to be playing

[wheat jay]

Real haha

[fierce elm]

I say it again, no

[lavish quest]

Honestly tho

Need to finish out 2400 this week then prob ignore wow

[fierce elm]

I gave up on that

[slow solstice]

woah

[fierce elm]

tabard is eh

fuck it I aint queueing

unless its to do random 3s on my rogue

[lavish quest]

I'm super close anyways, might as well

[fierce elm]

I mean same

but the queues are cringe as fuck

[lavish quest]

All I have to do it pump one out on some nerds and I'm there

If I queue at 6 am the queues are short

[fierce elm]

fuck that

[lavish quest]

My job has me wake up at 4:30, so I'm up early regardless

On my days off I'm up around 6, do some queues, work out, proceed with rest of day

[fickle forge]

Well now I won't then

[wheat jay]

In light of that

I offer

Kfc

[fierce elm]

You said we are doing rogue/enhance

lmao

[slow solstice]

play wow

[lavish quest]

Last week it was a lot of bouncing between games

[fickle forge]

Can't wait for you to rediscover your binds, and the again in 3 weeks, and then again in 3 weeks

[lavish quest]

MHW, wow, rivals and rock and stone

[fierce elm]

im goated

[slow solstice]

what is

mls

[craggy geyser]

Major league soccer

🤣

[elfin surge]

bro when is this ssn gunna end

[slow solstice]

@lavish quest are you at work

i want to pull ansurek

[lavish quest]

Yes

[slow solstice]

despair

[lavish quest]

Don't think I can help with that

[slow solstice]

i want to go into the lockout

but i need someone who will not steal it

[lavish quest]

Are you not pulling with the same group that got it to 5%m

[wheat jay]

oh wait gio

you're na?

[lavish quest]

Yup

[elfin surge]

Na best

[wheat jay]

wack, no raid for me then

😦

[lavish quest]

NA will be tired of winning

[slow solstice]

i am

i am filling for friends guild

[lavish quest]

So there ya go, I assume they can't steal it if you're there

[slow solstice]

yeah but i cant ask some random on my friends listen to not steal

bc it could be held hostage if someone just stays inside

[lavish quest]

Sound like you're trying to get extra pulls out of the guild pulls?

[slow solstice]

no im bored

[lavish quest]

So time to pvp

[slow solstice]

no

i want to pull queen and do the tank busters because i want to feel something

[lavish quest]

You'll feel something when they bust on you in arena

[sand sundial]

17m queue feelsgreat

peak times are 2 am

[sterile moth]

Good morning warrior fam

[fierce elm]

The fucking trial area can suck my nuts @urban skiff

I HAD LIKE 4 WIPES ON THE ELEVATOR

[urban skiff]

They're fixing that in next patch

[fierce elm]

4 WIPES

SHADOWHEART BUGGED INTO NOWHERE

Also Astarion hates me now

[wheat jay]

what did you do to astarion you piece of shit O_O

[fierce elm]

I went down and killed a ton of rats and some dude spawned and attacked me

[wheat jay]

oh

i didnt do that

[fierce elm]

apparently the dude Raphael sent me to was cursed there and that was the last dude

idk

I persuaded Astarion to stop being a bitch though

[slow solstice]

my pc might explode i fear

[urban skiff]

All of world and all of rise i played with a 970 gtx

I'm sure you'll be fine.

[jovial torrent]

heh played world and iceborn with a 980 myself

cant remeber it ever really dropping below 60

wasnt even on low setting like mid/high

[fierce elm]

Its a pretty optimized game for frames

If you run at 1080 with a 3070 you should have no issues

[urban skiff]

those ones were. Idk about this one

It's built in the same engine as dragon's dogma and that game as abhorrent optimization

Man this game is really revealing how bad my monitor purchase hurt my graphics

Everything on our pcs is the same but my wife is running 2560x1440p with a 4070 (avg 90 fps without framegen) and I'm running 3440x1440p with a 4070ti super (average 70 fps without framegen)

[slow solstice]

do i just turn everything down really low

i swear my pc is just turbo cpu bottlenecked

[urban skiff]

make it autodetect

I don't think raytracing works. I'm seeing same avg fps with maxed RT

[lavish quest]

Time to roll out the dough and upgrade

[fierce elm]

You need a 5090 to play WoW

[hot solstice]

I am speechless

if it goes through...

[fierce elm]

oh my god the NUMBERS

If it goes through, which it has, we still have no idea how this translates into when it actually hits

However, getting these buffs must mean Fury is really underperforming on testing

[hot solstice]

I mean...yestarday I got 5mil mortal on ptr vs dh

[fierce elm]

Yes

These buffs usually mean a spec is really underperforming, which is both a good sign and a bad sign

[hot solstice]

and its not only for warrior

[fierce elm]

especially with the numbers warrior has been getting so far

[hot solstice]

mages are broken aswell

[fierce elm]

BUT, we will have no idea how anything looks until patch hits live

Nor does it matter what the numbers are right now unless this is the final patch, which they wont tell us

It's fun, but for practical use its pretty useless unfortunately

[hot solstice]

arms tree is so bad...all those talents for bleeds just so dw and rend does 7% overall together

7-11%*

[urban skiff]

you don't need a 5090. You need a good CPU

[fierce elm]

You need a 5090

you need 10 pcs with 10 5090s and a top tier cpu

you need a mobo that is at minimum 800 bucks or you cant play the game

[urban skiff]

I'd almost be tempted to try out a 9800x3d with a 970gtx just to see how much GPU actually matters

maxed out raytracing and upscaling is set to performance mode.

DLSS 4 is amazing tbh

[hot solstice]

oh yeah wow is so gpu demanding

[fierce elm]

kek

[rancid granite]

ask your crystal ball then

[urban skiff]

lmao

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff @wheat jay I fucked up somewhere

oh no

THE CONSEQUENCES OF MY ACTIONS

now who will be my cleric

[urban skiff]

Lol

You dont need a cleric

[wheat jay]

?

oh

what did you do

[urban skiff]

I literally never bring a healer or cleric or anything

[fierce elm]

who will now miss every spell

Guess Karlach is getting playtime lmao

[wheat jay]

bro lost ShadowBae

scumsave moment

[fierce elm]

tbf she has been mad bitchy

naaa

RIP SHADOWHEART BABY

Now who do I pick p

Wyll lets go baby

[wheat jay]

man went from mad fun character

to wyll

[fierce elm]

I mean its Wyll, Halsin or Karlach

Actually Karlach might be a vibe I changed my mind

[wheat jay]

bro i'd call wyll boring but boring things are mad fun compared to him

THE BLADE OF THE FRONTIER

wtf is even that

[fierce elm]

Karlach WELCOME

you are now my AoE damage dealer

[wheat jay]

2nd playthrough when?

i gotta do mine once new classes release xD

[urban skiff]

If your spells miss you're targetting wrong

[fierce elm]

the flamespell

cantrip

idk

[urban skiff]

that's actually a really bad spell

it targets dexterity which most monsters have more than enough of. Often you're better off shooting with a crossbow on standard unchanged shadowheart

[fierce elm]

It is DOGSHIT spell

Eldritch knight is so fucking cool

[urban skiff]

EK in patch 8 is gonna rock

One of my next builds is going to be fighter 11 barb 1

run around naked and swing a big halberd

@sharp meteor what is objectively the best race for prot pvp and why is it kul tiran?

1% vers, less damage taken from frost and nature, extra heal, bitchslap knockback

[sharp meteor]

Kult bgs gnome arena ye

Shame their animations scuffo

[urban skiff]

very shame

i tried playing a fdk kth but it was absolutely unplayable

[rancid granite]

human in both

[fierce elm]

Alright @urban skiff end of act 2

rn

uhm

Barbarian does a ton of damage

thats all

[sand sundial]

queue times are crazy in eu rn lmao

5 minutes

[urban skiff]

barbarian is goat

are you still berserker?

[fierce elm]

yes lmao

But I did 2 turn the end of act 2

which felt kinda busted

Eldritch Knight is also really neato ngl

Gale is just killing small guys with aoe burst

[wheat jay]

Afro and his boring squad

Jesus christ

[fierce elm]

Bruh

[wheat jay]

At least keep astarion alive so you can have some good dialogue

[fierce elm]

Karlach has been goated so far

Astarion is just amazing

Gale interrupts me to tell me about magic

[wheat jay]

Okay karlach is goated, true

Gale is a nerd

[fierce elm]

and doesnt judge me for almost killing him

fuck u want nerdass

[wheat jay]

Wyll is wack

[fierce elm]

Wyll isnt part of it

Because I realized he will hate me

[wheat jay]

Lmao

Have you met the butler yet?

[fierce elm]

Way back brother

Like first long rest

[wheat jay]

Btw, don't be afraid to do long rests, theres 0 cons to using it as often as you want

[fierce elm]

I am in act three now

act 2 felt sort of short

but also nice because act 1 took me like 20 hours

lmao

[wheat jay]

I spent a lot of time in act 2 lol

Did you meet all thorm siblings?

[fierce elm]

yes

[wheat jay]

And what kind of dark urging did you do?

[wheat jay]

Did you outdrink the fat dude?

[fierce elm]

I didnt know I could do that

I failed a dice

and killed him instead

[wheat jay]

XD you can

Man explodes kinda

[fierce elm]

did not kill a certain person

even if he told me to do it

[wheat jay]

Did you convince doctor to commit ceremonial sudoku?

[fierce elm]

Managed to throw a few dice

no I killed him too

[wheat jay]

Good boy

[wheat jay]

Ok but did you talk him into becoming a live surgery patient?

[fierce elm]

I aint all about them dice throws

[wheat jay]

Fair fair

[fierce elm]

No I smacked him with reckless attack

[wheat jay]

Lmao

Act 3 is also FULL of shit

Absolutely FULL

To the point you won't even know where to go first

[fierce elm]

Im in a circus rn

[wheat jay]

Raphael quests are goated beyond human reason too

Like, its literally the best moment of the game

[fierce elm]

tryna gather up 5k gold for a statue of myself

[wheat jay]

And most EPIC is orin questing

[wheat jay]

Lol

Steal

[fierce elm]

Naa I don't steal

thats wack

[wheat jay]

Have you played djinn roll?

[fierce elm]

I bring currency

he sent me to a jungle

I opened a chest and suddenly realized why I kept those throwing gloves from act 1

[wheat jay]

So you did steal you lying fuck

[fierce elm]

Pass

[wheat jay]

[fierce elm]

Astarion stole

I didnt steal

So instead of throwing people I throw a trident now

my favorite thing is suplexing a dude into another dude so far

[urban skiff]

monk 6, rogue 3, barb 3. I can't decide on what subclass to pick for barb

Either it's berserker to throw people as bonus actions, probably not great. I don't need the bonus action attack

Or it's wildheart bear or wildheart eagle

Resist everything or get diving strike

Fuck it, bear. all resist with this many hp is good

[spice hornet]

@sharp meteor is kennie forced to give some charity glads out as well?

[sharp meteor]

i kind of mentally check out when i finish wins usually

and just go do pve or shuffle/blitzo stuff

[copper fox]

I just helped my friend finish wins

BRUTAL

[sharp meteor]

kind of liking the bat more that i use it

its not a df dragon but like idk its okay

maybe im coping

[spice hornet]

It’s boring these days, fight the same team over and over too much

Most common comps to fight for me were frost mage/feral and assassination/aff both with hpals so even more unfun

[sharp meteor]

ya 20 games in a row vs assa/feral + aff/frost + hpal

get me out

[stark agate]

How often should you realistically slam on arms

[torn sigil]

usually dont want to waste a global when warbreaker haste is up, but its getting a big buff next season so probbaly a lot more next seaosn

[wheat jay]

you are

[slow solstice]

@wheat jay i killed her

[lavish quest]

Grats!

[slow solstice]

hi

[lavish quest]

Hello

So finally done with CE, what now?

[wheat jay]

Gz

[slow solstice]

i think guild is still going to be raiding

[wheat jay]

Mount farm?

[slow solstice]

maybe

but i also raid with my guild so idk

[fallen estuary]

Halo2 time

[copper fox]

Ha. Good one

[slow solstice]

hi weird guy

do you want to do keys

[dawn sail]

nightmare fuel bro

[lavish quest]

Can't be arsed to finish

Gotta go workout

[sterile moth]

You got this

[rancid granite]

2380 i remember that rating

https://tenor.com/view/matthew-mcconaughey-smoking-matthew-mcconaughey-intense-intense-stare-smoking-gif-2659849828106643276

moments before i hit 2075 again

[lavish quest]

[fickle forge]

Shuffle

[wheat jay]

Q when

Bitch

Helldivers when?

[lavish quest]

Only alternative is blitz. Imagine being a blitz enjoyer

I should return to helldivers one day

One day...

[fickle forge]

Whenever the fuck I get to be home

[urban skiff]

@rancid granite

[rancid granite]

AWW YEAH

19:33min video of rogues i assume

[urban skiff]

and warriors and mages lol

[wheat jay]

Never it is then

[fickle forge]

Rogue, lock and mage

[urban skiff]

probs true tbh

They're judging off of the classes having stable toolkits that don't or can't get nerfed and buffed all the time

[fickle forge]

Rogue, lock and mage

[true tiger]

i remmeber being 2386

never reched 2.4k

15 games lsoestreak after

[fickle forge]

Damn who saw that one coming

[urban skiff]

fuck lol

Rogues don't ever get to be bad for long tbh

[fickle forge]

If your class has 3 dps specs, you're a candidate for never being bad

[urban skiff]

oh fuck i forgot, we're seeing a cyclone nerf soon

[fickle forge]

And then these 3 have the most control

[true tiger]

esp in pvp

mages every spec looks same XD

[fickle forge]

That's why it sucks to main something like enh sham or WW, you can easily fall out of meta and be trash

[urban skiff]

won't happen anymore

Somehow enh has become a favourite

[true tiger]

bcs of reworks and stuff

they can easily make enh bad again

DH was good in in DFO

now its not as close

[fickle forge]

Yeah but it won't be good necessarily (likely)

[urban skiff]

Even though they do a lot of changes and reworks they seem to try to preserve and tune into what is popular instead of crush and cram it into a single very specific spec

And it doesn't seem like they mind shaman being strong

[true tiger]

its blizz

[fickle forge]

And then what are your options

[true tiger]

they can crush it

[fickle forge]

You either go a new class or a new role for your class

If WW is ass then monk player's got MW as an alternative

Crazy stuff

[urban skiff]

enh in 11.1 is going to absolutely pump like crazy

new tier changes + doggo changes + all the other stuff

the nerfs to builders don't matter because they're bringing pve builders down to pvp levles

[fickle forge]

Can change overnight bro

[urban skiff]

I have faith

brb gonna log onto ptr and ask them again for a MS effect

Tie it to flameshock, i don't even care

or put it on a totem

[fickle forge]

They won't bro

[urban skiff]

yea i kno

[fickle forge]

They ain't giving it to ret, enh or FDK ever

Every other melee can have it though

[urban skiff]

enh already has had it for all of S1

just not ms

[fierce elm]

Imagine facing ret in 2s

with an MS effect

that would be aids lmao

[fickle forge]

Yeah I'd go insane

Ret is so toxic to face

[urban skiff]

Ret enh and fdk don't get MS effect because they're effectively gish/spellsword specs.

[fierce elm]

Some specs are better kept away from 2s

[urban skiff]

I'm guessing we can't have MS because we have something equivalent from the caster kit

[fickle forge]

Comes down to utility probably

[urban skiff]

(equivalent as judged by blizzard, not by us)

[fickle forge]

Pala and sham have crazy utility

If they had MS too, then why ever bring warrior

[urban skiff]

i think if feral didn't have ms it would be utility being the deciding factor

[fickle forge]

Feral with no MS was okay when they had crazy DoT pressure

[fierce elm]

I mean imagine the comps that would drop warrior if Ret had MS

lmao

[urban skiff]

I think ms effect is part of "being kited a lot" toolkit

[fierce elm]

why ever play Thunder with warrior

Why ever play Turbo with warrior

[fickle forge]

Yeah, thunder cleave would instantly become ele+ret overnight

[fierce elm]

unless warrior is good

[urban skiff]

Turbo with fdk/enh or ret/enh would be fun thoug

[fickle forge]

Broken af bro

[fierce elm]

Its why they need to keep these utility-heavy specs under control

[fickle forge]

Some specs shouldn't work together

[fierce elm]

Imagine giving thunder, an already pretty non-killable comp the ret utility

[urban skiff]

It's not really broken without, a bit of ms alone shouldn't break the entire game

they can give us 10% ms

[fickle forge]

Yah it would

There's a golden rule with arena

You either bring MS or control for kill pressure

[fierce elm]

Unless I am a big dumb here

[fickle forge]

Else it's not a comp

[fierce elm]

10% ms would still be huge

[urban skiff]

There's going to be a sweet spot somewhere

If 10% is too much, maybe 5% is it

off the top of my head I'd say it's 7-8%

[fierce elm]

Like, if we put it in extremely dumb explanations

10% Ms would mean you need to do 10% less damage to a target

if we stupid it

[urban skiff]

that's not stupidfying it

[fierce elm]

Now give a spec a flat 10% buff to all damage

[urban skiff]

It's actually how it works

[fickle forge]

Almost at least

[urban skiff]

Only it affects you AND your partner's damage

[fierce elm]

Almost

its close enough

So imagine giving both specs 10% more damage lmao

If we run ret/ele for example

since neither has an MS effect

I think, at least in terms of ret it would be hard ot control where it would be applied

since everything is AoE or cleave

Give it to judgment and suddenly you have triple MS constantly

Final Verdict would be the one thing but even that could be split with ease

[fickle forge]

Also no point in giving everyone MS

https://tenor.com/view/syndrome-incredibles-when-everyones-super-gif-10466529

[urban skiff]

I think it's implied that if you give a spec ms effect, you bring their damage down by a % to compensate though

But yeah, ms effect is, effectively, more damage done.

[fierce elm]

Cant wait to unleash my ret in twos, ranged damage, counter to any spec, absurd burst, absurd utility

[fickle forge]

Thing is, a comp should be formed to make up for weaknesses

[fierce elm]

and a MS effect

[lavish quest]

3rd war DPS spec when? sadge~1

[urban skiff]

But that's because what matters in arena isn't actually damage done. Effective health or how long you can delay death

[fierce elm]

Lowkey cant believe they haven't introduce a 4th spec for vanilla classes yet

[urban skiff]

ret enh surv trio in 3s

a shame they removed ancestral guidance

[wheat jay]

is it time to bring back my idea of removing ms

[fickle forge]

Thunder cleave is consistently one of warr's best comps becomes it brings everything

[wheat jay]

since its so homogenized, removing it would just mean one less thing to worry about when balancing specs

[fickle forge]

Big sustained, decent burst, sham shuts down casters, warr shuts down melees, MS etc.

[fickle forge]

A few specs should have it bro

Arms is the OG and should keep it

[wheat jay]

no, some specs should have stuff like sharpen

[fickle forge]

I can get behind Wound Poison and AS as well

[wheat jay]

so, sharpen for warr

necrotic strike for unholy

maybe one or two more

done

and not 100% uptime

[fickle forge]

Arms has had MS since the dawn of time bro

Other specs have been meta without MS while arms ran around with perma sharpen

[wheat jay]

yes

now everyone has it

remove it all

give arms sharpen

remove it from dh

from hunter

from all those shits

from rogue

give some specs an ability, like sharpen

for a short duration healing reduction

[fickle forge]

Don't hire this guy Blizz

[wheat jay]

what's the point of permament ms

if every comp has permament ms

you can remove it

and nothing would change

[lavish quest]

Warrior only

SMOrc

[sterile moth]

For those glads that were recently duelists but finally broke through….what are some tips? Is it just reps mostly or

[wheat jay]

keep playing

[ember timber]

Hello chads! Arms vs retri, how to outplay and win in 1v1 scenario?

[fierce elm]

you dont

[ember timber]

Sadge

[fierce elm]

yeah

[ember timber]

Thats brutal

[frank knoll]

Yeah equal skill and gear you die 1v1 as arms

I’ve beaten Sub rogues and shadow priests in duels as an Arms warrior but I either had better gear than them or they misplayed some how

[frank knoll]

Buy a boost from Trustpilot

[lavish quest]

First match since working out and such

Queued into a 60 mmr above game for some reason that was a heavy heal diff

Lucky me

[fierce elm]

ez

[sharp meteor]

Afk 3 weeks get 60 mmr

[lavish quest]

Nah, the game was above my MMR

[sharp meteor]

Er 1 week

[lavish quest]

This was like my 6th lobby of the morning

[sharp meteor]

Huh did u have big lobby prior to that

Cos if you go like 5-1 your mmr can go up past cr which is nice

Get cr for a healer diff

[sharp meteor]

You just die.

[lavish quest]

The prior match was a 5-1 yes

[sharp meteor]

Yeee

[lavish quest]

But according to the scordboard my MMR was 2380

[sharp meteor]

Juicy mmr buffer

[lavish quest]

Same as my CR

Just insane gap between mine and the role average

But we take those

[elfin surge]

no way @slow solstice in call rn

at work or i would join the party

[lavish quest]

It's not his first time

[elfin surge]

need a skyhold pvp discord call asap

with all the boys

[lavish quest]

Gio is a pve andy, but I agree with the idea

[elfin surge]

PVE CRINGE

[slow solstice]

hi

[lavish quest]

He just got cutting edge tho

He's been edging for months

[lavish quest]

Elite when???

[wheat jay]

god bless mmr abuse

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/to-do-list-your-mom-mike-ohearn-lifestyle-gif-6112231473804063581

[lavish quest]

🙏

[slow solstice]

help me get 2400

[wheat jay]

have you been abusing mmr for hte last 4 months?

like leland

[slow solstice]

no

[lavish quest]

It wasn't exactly intentional

Just can hardly be arsed to queue

[wheat jay]

ye

the game rewards you for being tired of it xD

[sharp meteor]

[slow solstice]

help

[elfin surge]

not u

[elfin surge]

[lavish quest]

[slow solstice]

im new

🙂

[lavish quest]

Cold out here

[slow solstice]

guys help

im new

[lavish quest]

I don't think I broke 300 rounds

[elfin surge]

hi im new which faction is best for world pvp?

[wheat jay]

lol

[wheat jay]

[lavish quest]

Guys, how do I win duels as warrior?

[sharp meteor]

Buff bag of tricks again

[wheat jay]

fam, i didnt break 40 on monk

[lavish quest]

For 1800...

[wheat jay]

indeed

already had 2100

sooooo ye no point in pushing further on alts

[lavish quest]

I didn't break 1 on ret

Because I was in blitz

[lavish quest]

Elite when?

[wheat jay]

for what?

it gives me nothing

2100 is weapon threshold xD

[lavish quest]

Tabard and bragging rights I guess 🤷‍♂️

[sharp meteor]

Get 2400 noob

[slow solstice]

is it time to start recording my games

for vod reviews

🙂

[wheat jay]

bragging rights for wasting even more time on pvp?

[lavish quest]

Exactly

But if you good it doesn't take much time

[lavish quest]

Yes

[slow solstice]

what if i wear pve gear

for 10% damage

🙂

er

20

[wheat jay]

coinflip gameplay

kinda cba

[lavish quest]

Fair

[full raft]

i see a lot of fury wars swapping to mountain thane in shuff and want to give it a try -- how often are you supposed to be hitting thunder clap? only as filler? only when it gets buffed to thunder blast? as much as possible?

[lavish quest]

Use as thunderblast
Use to get whirlwind stacks if you cleavin
Use when you have nothing else in ST

[fierce elm]

buffed, or to keep up cleave stacks in cleave

fuck you got it first

[lavish quest]

I swapped to thane vs everything and I loved it

You actually do dam outside of bladestorm

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/allstate-gotta-be-quicker-than-that-fishing-gif-11607646

[full raft]

epic, didnt even realize it gave whirlwind stacks

ty!

[lavish quest]

As thane, thunderclap gets all the same mechanics and effects as whirlwind

In fact, I just put it where my whirlwind used to be

(In my keybinds)

[full raft]

oh yep i see it now

sweet time to go blast some nerds with lightning

[sterile moth]

8% dam reduction when you thunder last too when talented . Only time I don’t like it as much is chasing mages around, feels better against everything else pretty much

*blast

[green wharf]

Thane should have being an arms spec

fuck colossus

https://tenor.com/view/the-rizzler-costco-guys-meme-funny-tiktok-gif-16969714374207670215

[lavish quest]

Meh, fury more fun atm

unga bunga

[wheat jay]

never in my life have i seen more neutered take

[green wharf]

there are still some delulu people who think its great

[wheat jay]

colossus, it is great

unless we're talking purely pvp

then we have to exclude like 99% of the playerbase from the conversation

[green wharf]

it will be even shitter when patch rolls in as you will not be able to get stacks with execute

[green wharf]

i always do that in the pvp chat

[wheat jay]

yeeee, even in pvp colossus is fun

slayer is just better for arms

[green wharf]

where is the fun in never pressing your main ability, or someone just walking away when you do

i think the most fun is when you crit the two main strikes, just to not crit the third

[wheat jay]

imagine you had that dmg and it was unstoppable and never missed

instant S+++++++++++ tier arms lol

[green wharf]

i would rather have not have damage

[wheat jay]

skill issue

[sterile moth]

@wheat jay kinda like Thane rampage lol

[wheat jay]

ye except demolish into ms can do more than fully stacked rampage 🙂

a lot more

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm Rate my attack

[rancid granite]

i rate it a 124

[lavish quest]

2 buttons does more than 1 button? No way

[wheat jay]

You rampage into something too

[lavish quest]

Ye, rampage into thunder blast

Big dam

Which you can do way more often than demo into MS

[wheat jay]

You dont do fully stacked rampages very often tho

@fickle forge yo say sth, youre the colossus enjoyer, send some details or sth

I dunno

[sharp meteor]

can get it stacked up prior to a go if you got cc

[fickle forge]

What am I dipping into you say?

[fickle forge]

It's pretty good into cleaves

[fierce elm]

what the fuck

Gotta say, I should turn up the difficultya

absolutely two-turning everything

[wheat jay]

Have you done any of the big boys yet?

In act3

Like raphael, or big ass robot?

Or, has wyll offered you to help find reinforcements?

Some legend or something

[fierce elm]

Raphael gave me a hammer

Killed the mage dude because he was a dick

[fickle forge]

Gold's Gym

[wheat jay]

Wait

You did not go to house of hope yet?

[fierce elm]

Look man, a lil soul giving doesn't hurt anyone

no

[wheat jay]

SHAKING

my

HEAD

[fierce elm]

The trapped dude sent me to a diabolist or w.e

and she wanted 20k from me

fuck that

she can vibe for a bit

[wheat jay]

Orrrrrr

[fierce elm]

He also did tell me I can break my contract and that is what I was hoping for

dont fucking spoil it BITCH

[wheat jay]

Bro youre barbarian

[fierce elm]

I am out here exploring

[wheat jay]

Intimidate people

[fierce elm]

I missed the roll lmao

[wheat jay]

Smhhhhhhh

Be creative then

[fierce elm]

I am doing other stuff meanwhile

[wheat jay]

There is still hope you can get to house of hope

XD

[fierce elm]

I got stuff to do

there is a shitton of stuff do see

[wheat jay]

Indeed

[hot solstice]

how long does it take to 1-80 now?

[sterile moth]

12-13 hours if you do time walking

Much faster if you can find a level 11 twink to run you through

[green wharf]

Jesus

i only level up another character if its an ogre or if someone pay me

got my fill with remix and the pre-patch

[fickle forge]

@wheat jay got 1-80 and 1800 in shuffle in about 17 hours

[hot solstice]

thats some answer with extra steps

[fickle forge]

Free service

[green wharf]

character boost to 70, 10 hourss of lv up from 70 to 80

then paid rush to 1800

easy

[sand sundial]

End of the season is here

BG quality is insane and shuffle is free asf

Insanely bad*

[sharp meteor]

Gonna be extra wild on Tuesday when they announce 2 weeks until end of season

and everybody who hasn't logged in for 2 months queues up

[sand sundial]

Boring trying to get 1800 on my alts

Queues are very fast though

[spice hornet]

When snuggle? @sharp meteor

[sharp meteor]

q mancleave?

[torn sigil]

is that 2 warr healer?

[tribal thistle]

How's warrior in PVP these days? Haven't tried it at all since I've been back. Fury vs arms?

[sterile moth]

Both are good, fury is really good

[sharp meteor]

Fury is great. Arms is okay-good. Prot is the best it has been in years.

All three specs buffed in a month (next season/patch).

Good time to be a pvp warr.

[green wharf]

I cant like arms, think is shit, but there are some weird popl out there

dont recommend the spec

[urban skiff]

do we still not have a season end announcement?

[vapid tartan]

surely on tuesday they give 2week

[urban skiff]

I assume so

so it's (probably) 2 weeks to end -> 1 11.1 patch release -> 1 or 2 weeks before new start?

@fierce elm mental health day, what could i possibly do with it?

[fierce elm]

Cant play BG3 rn

smh

gonna go snowboarding instead

[urban skiff]

But you could be murdering all of baldur's gate

[sterile moth]

How much does rating inflate towards the end of the season, if at all?

[slow solstice]

its a noticeable amount

[urban skiff]

is there inflation in 3s and 2s or only shuffle?

[slow solstice]

0 ideap

[elfin surge]

all brackets

[lavish quest]

Season is gradual over the course of the season, not some big dump

Unless blizz does it themselves and they announce when that happens

[sterile moth]

@lavish quest understood, more so I was talking about a potential inflation of the player pool at the end of the season causing rating to climb

[lavish quest]

That will be hard to tell, depends on how many really start grinding. More games played naturally increases inflation

But doubt it will be massive

This season is pretty deadge, many other games poppin atm, rewards aren't crazy

[sterile moth]

Yeah, I was just curious more than anything. I started playing again half way through this season and probably haven’t made it through a whole season in years

[urban skiff]

Pretty sure my wife started out at 1500 rating in 2s when she queued up for the first time on a fresh 80 toon

[lavish quest]

Well if you had a large break, there will be a sizable inflation gap from when you played last

[sterile moth]

Back in “my day” 2700 was about as high as rating went

[lavish quest]

So if you play enough games you should average out to an = spot but higher rating

[slow solstice]

i was running people down in 2200 on my priest with 1 game played 🙂

@lavish quest rating check

[lavish quest]

Still 2404

Stopped after 2400

[slow solstice]

wait

when did you get 2404

[lavish quest]

Yesterday mid day, first game after working out

Posted it here

[slow solstice]

oh

i just didnt see

lol

[tribal thistle]

Thanks, prot in pvp sounds funny. Might give it a whirl since that's what I've been playing pve. What's best way to get started? Ransoms BG's ? It's been forever.

[lavish quest]

Ye, I got lucky and randomly got put in a game 60 mmr above my own mmr so even tho I went 3-3 I got 24 rating

[torn sigil]

same ive been playing once a week and gettin 24 for 3-3 and 50 or 60 for 4-2

[sterile moth]

I’ve been playing 2 warriors and just playing leap frog so I always get to keep my highest rating. Keeps me from being frustrated when I get some bad lobbies and tank

Or play like shit and tank

[sharp meteor]

Ye there's a certain peace in only playing lower char

[torn sigil]

I've been getting faster queues at 3k mmr than at 2k in blitz lately

[sterile moth]

I gave up on blitz, no longer a part of my life.

[spice hornet]

I played blitz one time lol. Literally 1 game was enough. Just follow the meat blender around and do damage. Boring

[hasty pulsar]

anyone know if those new cars coming in 11.1 will be able to dismount people? wondering how world pvp will be with everyone just zooming around real fast

[copper fox]

When was this

Tbc?

Original cata people were already almost 4k

3.6 3s was the highest I think

Rogues name was actually original too lmao

Double rogue rdruid 3.6

Bestworld original and mayo

[urban skiff]

Ya'll too angry. Listen to this

https://youtu.be/MsxLBkAfaK4

[sterile moth]

Yeah really pre-Cata time frame. I could be misremembering too. Cata was my last “hardcore” expac. Ended up getting banned in MoP and played sporadically from then on

[copper fox]

Good times

[sterile moth]

Holy shit that was 15 years ago

[urban skiff]

stonks up

are you guys holding or selling

[fierce elm]

HOLDING

[urban skiff]

Me too

[fierce elm]

I fucking BELIEVE

[urban skiff]

I wasn't expecting it to jump right now

[sterile moth]

Holding

[urban skiff]

I might put my stacks up as blockers at 5k

[sterile moth]

People probably stocking up and buying low

[urban skiff]

I expect them to jump to 5k at the least

when the s1 supply dries up in s2

[fierce elm]

I expect them to jump up at the 2 week notice

[urban skiff]

What order are you guys going to gear up in in s2? I'm trying to predict which week will have most people with socket-able gear

[fierce elm]

by yoloing it all

[urban skiff]

me too

when did you get brain damage like me

[fierce elm]

Most likely grabbing 2 set with conq+bloody tokens and a minor piece

if we get 9 heraldries again I am just making rings and neck honestly

on every character

[urban skiff]

we do

I'm going to approach this as an optimization assignment

the earliest week that I can have full conq gear (minus the cc trinket)

and by conq I include crafted and bloody token

[urban skiff]

Guys, is BM fun?

I get that it's easy. That's not what I'm asking. Is it fun or annoying to play?

[wheat jay]

imo, boring

its like fury, but ranged

[urban skiff]

am i going to have more fun with BM in blitz than the other specs?

[fierce elm]

Probably not

[wheat jay]

you'll fall asleep

probably

or you'll forget to mend pet

or your pets will get rooted and you'll do 0dmg

its op as fuck, but also boring and annoying

people dont play it for fun, they play it cuz they're too bad to play anything else

[urban skiff]

I used to main UHDK for a few raid tiers so I think I have some pretty good pet control awareness trained

Does BM have a lot of keybinds or few?

[fickle forge]

No

It is not fun

[slow solstice]

hi

[boreal veldt]

bm always been the afk spec even before blitz rogue

most fun bm had was when the pets were glitched and as big as skyscrapers

[lavish quest]

Tried that beta, well most of it so far, for wilds. Pretty good, I'm really liking a lot of the changes, pushes it a good bit above world @slow solstice

Still gotta grind out world tho

[urban skiff]

anything without the stupid claw is better than world

: (

[lavish quest]

Hey man, I haven't played the others lol

Besides... wilds still has the claw thing?

[urban skiff]

You should try rise while waiting

[lavish quest]

I'm not even all thr way through world yet lol

[urban skiff]

the claw from iceborne where you had to tenderize bodyparts repeatedly and wallslam monsters? tedious asf

[urban skiff]

treat rise like a fun arcade game.

[lavish quest]

I did notice I couldn't grapple onto things in this beta

But the wounds are cool

[urban skiff]

Wounds cool.

I didn't like in iceborne that every weapon played the exact same while claw gripping and wounding.

[lavish quest]

I suppose that's fair

Wounds are cool.
Being able to take 2 weapons into the world is cool.
Being able to actually aim your attacks more fluidly is amazing.
Mount is cool.

[urban skiff]

I might finally go back to greatsword if gunlance turns out to be less responsive than in rise

[lavish quest]

The attack aiming is top by far for me. A godsend as a greatsword user

[slow solstice]

im going in blind

we have to play more world since i got ce

[lavish quest]

Ye boiii

And that's fair. Although the beta is kinda small all things considered

[true tiger]

for some reason i cant post on monk discord

any good ww monk can tell me whats prio stats for ww?

mastery or haste

[boreal veldt]

what do the ww monks on murlok io look like?

[true tiger]

some has mix

some has haste some has mastery

[boreal veldt]

might just be a "play what feels best" stat

[urban skiff]

It would be pretty cool if someone would invent a kitchen knife that doesn't whisper things

Mine a kind of noisy

[true tiger]

yee i guess so

just lvled ww and wanted to start learning with best stats

i guess as it seems u go like 10 12% haste rest mastery or smthn

[faint girder]

Is all PTR Fury buffs meant to be for PvP as well? Or are the buffs to Fury reduced from the PTR?

I understand that its PTR and ALOT can happen, I just wonder what happens IF it hits live servers

[hot solstice]

I wouldnt worry about that

cause before those unannounced buffs fury was equal to arms in terms of dps on single target in raid

its way stronger now so they surely will do something to arms

more likely buff arms than nerf fury cause there are a lot of specs doing more damage than fury with all those buffs

still I dont believe it will apply to pvp cause rn furry melts ppl with uptime

[wheat jay]

Ok, monk is fun

[urban skiff]

what is going on right now? why is 2s so casual at 1800 MMR?

[wheat jay]

Always has been

2s starts picking up pace at very high rating

[urban skiff]

It's only tonight that it's been this easy

granted i swapped from enh to my feral but still, playing with my wife who's never been above 1600 rating and has never healed in her life and we're just doing really well even when we lose

and especially at this hour when the arena turns really sweaty

[sterile moth]

Maybe you just turned into a stud overnight?

[urban skiff]

maybe

i haven't really played my feral in a long time but it's been my most main spec since vanilla WoW

Maybe enh and war is so difficult when i swap back to something really easy I can just cruise through

[wheat jay]

Feral is also just better in 2s

Better than both warr and enh

[sterile moth]

You’re a feral main?!

[urban skiff]

In pve almost always and I always pvp'd on it but never seriously

Got to rank 11 or 12 in vanilla just to get pvp set for pve back when feral wasn't a supported playstyle