do locks counter ret in a 1v1?
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green wharf
do locks counter ret in a 1v1?
only ret counter ret in a 1x1
urban skiff
only ret counter ret in a 1x1
enh, my shaman seems to be doing fine into them
my dispel range is longer than their attack range, and you best believe I'm going to make sure they use up all freedoms waddling towards me
best conversion rate from honor to gold right now is 1k honor -> 2.8k gold for anyone wondering
green wharf
best conversion rate from honor to gold right now is 1k honor -> 2.8k gold for a...
do people still buy this?
urban skiff
yep
green wharf
urban skiff
quick search: Go to recipes, choose "current expansion" filter, or put in "alga" in the search field and you'll find all the honor stuff except flasks and gem designs
for gems search for bloodstone
I think that should help make informed decisions on what to sell
this is the number you want to look at to determine if something can sell or not, if you're using TSM
it's probably higher than it should be on expensive pieces because someone bought everything under 40k and put it back up at 50k
everything that you can buy for honor is going to go up in value in s2 when people have something to spend their honor points on on their mains for the first 8-10 weeks
green wharf
from data for azeroth
night elf op racial making then ahead of humans
rock dwarves as shit as mechagomes
urban skiff
night elf op racial making then ahead of humans
it's a pve/overll graph.
Nelf was always insanely popular. I don't think nelf being strong in a minigame is enough to shift balance that far for pvp.
And belf is still ahead.
I can pretty confidently day that its a graph that shows cosmetic popularity and availability of races. The older a race is the higher it is. With a few exceptions.
green wharf
it's a pve/overll graph.
Nelf was always insanely popular. I don't think nelf ...
NE was below orcs and humans in the past
NE right now is majority in both pvp and pve leaderboards
all classs that can be NE are majority NE too
rogues and druids are almost 100% NE
cause extra vanish
but its to be expected since they enrfed humans and orcs
fossil mortar
Ya just got to accept, ppl just play Nelf cause of the look. The "got to be edgy" of the 2000s are dead, people now embrace what their heart wants.
And that is Nelf, as it simply is the best looking one. My proof? The population of Nelfs, on classes where it historically have been a DPS detriment.
urban skiff
Ya just got to accept, ppl just play Nelf cause of the look. The "got to be edgy...
My kids make only elves when i let them play. I'm sure i'm not the only dad who plays what their kids make
urban skiff
https://tenor.com/view/dammaz-kron-dwarf-gif-27703552
WHAT IS A BOOK
shell cove
A PILE OF PAPERS FOR THE USE OF SPREADING HERESY
green wharf
Ya just got to accept, ppl just play Nelf cause of the look. The "got to be edgy...
yeah cause 99.9% people playing high ranked pvp and pve that picked elve its because they look cool
not because their racial is OP
Before their racial became relevant OP and the others were nerfed they were top fifth place give or take
urban skiff
yeah cause 99.9% people playing high ranked pvp and pve that picked elve its bec...
Racial isn't great for pve
Isn't it actually super terrible if you aren't feral?
green wharf
Racial isn't great for pve
Racial is great for pve
look at what it can do
can drop combat to rez, can drop combat to drink/eat
can pass pack of mobs
can negate mechanics
green wharf
Doesn't work in raids like that
it does actually
green wharf
And m+ is the blitz of pve, a bad joke
its the only thing people do these days, raid is msotly for trinkets and weapons
urban skiff
its the only thing people do these days, raid is msotly for trinkets and weapons
M+ is soooooooooo boring compared to mythic raiding
urban skiff
it does actually
I'm extremely sure that you cannot rez in the middle of a raid fight by using shadowmeld.
green wharf
M+ is soooooooooo boring compared to mythic raiding
it is but its what the youngling are doing
urban skiff
Work is so boooooooring
I'm missing 888k and have no idea where they went.
Misplacing 119k euros is not a great time
green wharf
urban skiff
Ok maybe its not misplaced, there's just no record of it having been spent?
fierce elm
I'm missing 888k and have no idea where they went.
Sorry, it was a rough month
urban skiff
Sorry, it was a rough month
There's a tiny chance i caught someone embezzling?
fierce elm
GF forced me outside instead of playing Baldurs Gate
fickle forge
Go be with her wtf you doing here
fickle forge
Afro is such a terrible bf man smh
exotic forge
ITS ALL TIKTOK SONGS
She's not a keeper
fallen estuary
ITS ALL TIKTOK SONGS
wheat jay
GF forced me outside instead of playing Baldurs Gate
Coop when?
wheat jay
Well theres slam too but you rarely press it
wheat jay
Its an emergency filler
Both are good
Slayer is easier to play and harder to counter i guess
boreal veldt
i'd argue as colossus
MS > OP > Slam > Execute
boreal veldt
Oh right, forgot that hasn't been removed yet
wheat jay
Nope not yet
true tiger
give warriors immune to roots and snares during avatar
just removing them once aint enough man
fossil mortar
Sure, we can do that. But now avatar only lasts for 3 sec
true tiger
everyone has roots now its so frustrating
deft ridge
https://www.allwowpvp.com/
love the idea, checking it out now
its broken
lol
learn doesn't work for me
works on mobile
urban skiff
Not my project. Just saw it on reddit and figured i'd share it so he can get a lot of feesback
deft ridge
yeah good comms
urban skiff
@fierce elm how do you deal with accidentally being too casual about what you lift at the gym in front of coworkers and peers?
I usually cut it down to normal levels so people don't make a big deal out of babbys big weights but i forgot today and now i'm "the weight guy" at work
fierce elm
<@144859308557860864> how do you deal with accidentally being too casual about w...
By acting like its normal lmao
I never bring stuff like that up to coworkers/new people because I dont wanna talk about it with 99% of people
Personally most people have just noticed it by the way I look/move/lift and that is fine, generally tends to be younger guys that want to know what I lift
But I always treat it like some casual thing while bringing everyone up, people can get stuck in some mood after finding out I bench their deadlift. Always helps to be supportive of what they do and ignore your own feats
urban skiff
Yeah, it was a slipup because i was a bit distracted.
Its so easy to forget that even 80kg is a lot to some people
fierce elm
Acting like its not a big deal but harping on the fact that every person has their own thing going on has worked so far for me
urban skiff
There's a runner group at work who run together every Friday. Everyone has their own max but you tell them 60kg and they think you're a beast. I can't get a beat on what to pretend. My old place i used to say i just do zumba and Wii Fit but people don't even know what that is anymoee
fierce elm
Generally they ask once and then never again, some have asked for help etc, but I just try to be supportive of people, I aint got time for people wanting to compete or feel bad because I lift heavy circles better lmao
sterile moth
Never give them a real number until you know them/trust them. Tell them you just focus on training and not what max is. Deflect deflect deflect
fierce elm
There's a runner group at work who run together every Friday. Everyone has their...
Also I live in a pretty active society, its not odd for someone to train at what would be seen as wild levels to the average person
We have one dude who gets pretty competitive times in long-distance skiing, another one is training for an iron man
fierce elm
Never give them a real number until you know them/trust them. Tell them you just...
eh, I just let them know
I dont mind being the dude to lift pallets or anything, better me than my 50 year old coworker with back issues
But yeah, being honest and acting casual about it while not being like idk, mean? About whatever they may lift
Been living my life that way forever and it seems to workout, any people I have met that lift more/eclipse me are always so supportive regardless of what I lift
sterile moth
Definitely a balance…it’s easier if you can deflect but someone who has trained with you kinda spills the beans
rancid granite
wear tighter shirts
fierce elm
I also think like 60% of my workplace is at the gym I am at so cant avoid it
sterile moth
There ya go
rancid granite
just need that 9% bodyfat and tight stretchy clothing then poof a manbun appears and you're set
fierce elm
But really, once you start hitting big numbers you are going to be visibly different than people
Place a guy who lifts big numbers at 120kg bw next to someone who doesnt and its so obvious due to fat distribution
I bully my boss because he loves running and shit so I call him small, he knows I hate that and he calls me fat
it worksout
urban skiff
Never give them a real number until you know them/trust them. Tell them you just...
Yeah, that's what i messed up.
fierce elm
But yeah, people just need to be supportive to other people, I have definitely said to a person that I dont wanna discuss nutrition or what I eat with them lmao
rancid granite
just gotta be passive aggressive and vague about it right
urban skiff
just need that 9% bodyfat and tight stretchy clothing then poof a manbun appears...
Im over the manbun phase. I want to go bald but wife wants me to keep hair while its thick and luscious
rancid granite
'its about finding what works for you individually' type replies
fierce elm
lmao
rancid granite
Im over the manbun phase. I want to go bald but wife wants me to keep hair while...
but you got the beard so you'd still be keeping half the hair if you bald it up
sterile moth
I started buzzing my head during Covid. Life changing, save money and time
Grow a beard
fierce elm
Im too blunt for that, ”I eat this for performance and its something I can eat for months on end because I got the tism”
Usually quiets down people
sterile moth
lol
fierce elm
Thankfully being a larger dude means they dont say anything if I decide to eat something deemed unhealthy
rancid granite
wth i eat the same basic shit daily for years do i have the tism too
i need to take the test now
😔
fierce elm
lmao
Mine definitely is
Have eaten ground beef and tortillas for years on end
same seasoning, just salsa as toppings
rancid granite
basically yes lol
fierce elm
Had chicken breast for 2.5 years before I started to dislike it
Its cheap and a superpower lmao
sterile moth
Low carb tortillas?
rancid granite
there's a billion diff sauces and spices to go with chicken it cant get old
that or just eat it anyway
once you experience aches pains stomach issues and what not its vastly easier to exercise and eat better lol
fierce elm
Low carb tortillas?
regular
urban skiff
'its about finding what works for you individually' type replies
Can't train without having to develop politician level skills in social engineering and manipulation
sterile moth
But! What works is getting your ass under a heavy barbell and sweating
rancid granite
Can't train without having to develop politician level skills in social engineer...
lol
urban skiff
Im too blunt for that, ”I eat this for performance and its something I can eat f...
I can't tell coworkers that even as a joke. Project managers need people skills and results stop mattering if management decide autism = bad
urban skiff
When senior management is involved, results are always looked at after bias is applied.
If you're seen as a liability then you can be sure your results are proof of that, regardless of whether your results are positive or negative or neutral.
fierce elm
seems like all the top armses play colossus
the five that exist
urban skiff
When a spec is unpopular, the people who play it aren't using secret tech. They're people who will make their favorite play style work for however far it will go.
If they were motivates by ratings they wouldn't be playing the "other" spec to begin with. So always be critical of what you see.
Check vengeance dh in bgb to see what i mean. They all play different talents
true tiger
we were alrady winning 2/0
why was bro stressing
was 2 min left
XD wtf are those ppl
brazen pewter
Hey guys, new to warrior after 2 decades. Trying to learn!
Did some super short arms pvp last expansion, it looks like fury is quite better than arms now?
rancid granite
its not drastically better so you can still play arms too
brazen pewter
Yeah I sort of copied the r1 talent, and figured... there's not a lot of buttons to push? I am not sure if i missed anything
and it seems there are two main builds on hero talent? I am assuming one more single target oriented, one moro cleave build, is it?
lavish quest
XD wtf are those ppl
Average blitz enjoyers
civic scarab
we were alrady winning 2/0
Hahahaha
lavish quest
Anyone else miss when odin's fury was a thing at the start of the expac and would just bust on people
dense herald
anyone miss when unhinged wasnt nerfed
rancid granite
odyns fury is just a cool ability to use
and the idea of fury with the aoe/troar was just neato
slow solstice
anyone miss when unhinged wasnt nerfed
wdym
slow solstice
Unhinged is nerfed in pvp
kek
sharp meteor
although unhinged hasnt rly been real since like sinful
slow solstice
how is it neefed
sharp meteor
where you'd just randomly insta kill somebody with topend
restive ravine
what do yall think is better for arms warrior solo shuffle Demolish or slayer
boreal veldt
what do yall think is better for arms warrior solo shuffle Demolish or slayer
fury kek
it's honestly a preference thing, both are pretty similar
lavish quest
how is it neefed
The MS from it do 60% dam I think
sand sundial
Hey guys, new to warrior after 2 decades. Trying to learn!
Did some super short ...
Get out while you can
Jokes aside welcome
sand sundial
what do yall think is better for arms warrior solo shuffle Demolish or slayer
Shuffle demolish kinda fucks actually
restive ravine
yea right i like it over slayer gives me one shot potential on ranged when i get a stun off
stone garnet
yea right i like it over slayer gives me one shot potential on ranged when i get...
I kinda play it by ear, if I do a round or two where I'm getting good time on top of someone I'll swap to demo. I usually send slayer though first round.
fickle forge
XD wtf are those ppl
Wait until you see Dailyshuffle flip at his team for losing and then realise he thought he was on the other team
slow solstice
huh
dense herald
how is it neefed
Bladestorm now casts 2 ms at 60% dmg,it used to be regular dmg and in df if the enemy team didnt have pets you could oneshot somebody
sterile moth
Colossus is nice in shuffle because you’re harder to kill and any healer that’s worth a crap is already 2300+. Slayer arms and fury can just be trained relentlessly, trade CDs on time and just die.
dense herald
Mortal strike into bladestorm n u hit 3 mortal strikes total
hot solstice
Bladestorm now casts 2 ms at 60% dmg,it used to be regular dmg and in df if the ...
now it always ms ur main target but u cannt sweeping strikes those mortals
and its not 2 but 3
(5 if 3 stacks slayer)
true tiger
whats the diff playstyle between colossus and slayer
sterile moth
Goes are more based around bladestorm as slayer, many more bladestorms
Whereas Colossus…it’s really stun- demolish-BIG MS. Alot more setup….really should get your overpower and execute stacks up prior to bursting
boreal veldt
whats the diff playstyle between colossus and slayer
bladestorm is used as mobility and pressure as col rather than dps, you get more out of sending as many MS as possible, at low health do no use execute, slam/MS deals more damage
execute should only ever be used on sudden death procs if you're not at 10 stack
in 11.1 colossus will probably just 86 execute off their bars in pvp
sterile moth
lol yeah that’s so weird
boreal veldt
no one likes it, it's a stupid concept, and i wish i was lying
sterile moth
Oh execute just got for 300k??? Wut
boreal veldt
Oh execute just got for 300k??? Wut
cost a full 40 rage too
sterile moth
But MS and OP really rip…slam will too. Even if you could only use execute at 10% or 15% it would feel better
But buffed a lot
Ever since it was usable at 35% it’s steadily become more of a meh button
boreal veldt
it's genuinely a pve issue, because arms has the jugg talent they cant buff execute on the spec or it can get wildly out of control in raid
so us pvp plebs now have a dead execute button for a whole build
but if you think of it more as "demolish replaces execute" it doesn't feel as bad
the worst part is having to take dead execute talents for pathing
dense herald
now it always ms ur main target but u cannt sweeping strikes those mortals
I mean thats a bad tradeoff
Not insanely bad but not good
Imagine ure playing war in df s1 and u just fkin spear 2 guys and bladestorm with sweeping up
dense herald
I once killed 3 players in 3vs3
It was a 1vs3
My team8s died
And the enemy comp was like tsg but they all stacked
I popped all cooldowns with die by the sword and i killed them 3
Shit was the luckiest thing
true tiger
bladestorm is used as mobility and pressure as col rather than dps, you get more...
so its easier spec thatn slayer
hot solstice
Well 60% nerfed in pvp
it was nerfed since df
dense herald
Ye
hot solstice
sweeping nerf was added tww
dense herald
Ye
hot solstice
cause of furry in pve
dense herald
Ok we were talkin bout diff things
hot solstice
u could meat cleaver 5 bt's
dense herald
cause of furry in pve
Yea cuz cleaving the bloodthirsts and causing alot of dmg
hot solstice
so they removed that for arms sweeps aswell
hot solstice
they didnt have to nerf mortals to 60%
dense herald
They nerf every good thing warrior has
hot solstice
they could simply made it not consume overpower sharpen and ep
dense herald
Like shaman has been good since tww launch and no nerfs
Its prob gonna be meta next patch
In pve
hot solstice
cause what u have now is u would like to bs after colosus to immune cc but u get 60% ms with sharpen
dense herald
Ele shaman has been dominating pvp for some time now,warrior had unhinged now its mid,then skullsplitter n they nerfed that
dense herald
check arms nerfs first 2 weeks into s2
Ye itll be overnerfed
And then arms will be good again first 2 weeks of s3
And then nerfed again
Cycle of the warrior
hot solstice
I dont quite understand why overpower hits hard
doesnt look like 20% buff
either set isnt nerfed for real or idk
boreal veldt
so its easier spec thatn slayer
kinda? it's a matter of perspective, slayer is a lot more rng
true tiger
guys do u know if bloodstones will be useable next season?
boreal veldt
guys do u know if bloodstones will be useable next season?
so far yes, they haven't announced a replacement material so stock up
sterile moth
Is 2H frost DK a thing?
rugged temple
took it 12 times before I actually got in why is that a thing? what are people doing lol
boreal veldt
just queue dodgers
it's for win trading i think but idk much about the reasons for dodging
green wharf
cause of furry in pve
these damn furries
green wharf
Is 2H frost DK a thing?
yeah but its much more inferior
green wharf
I dont quite understand why overpower hits hard
overpower became the new mortal strike
and mortal strike became the new execute
while execute became a slap on the buttocks
exotic forge
I'm okay with overpower hitting hard, I mean shit, it can't be dodged or parried
green wharf
Battlelord already does that
nah... only 35% of the time
and imagine needing a talent
to make your main skill have a chance
to generate rage
its like rogue getting a talent to make mutilate generate two combo points isntead of one
exotic forge
We don't really struggle with rage in pvp tho
exotic forge
I don't see why you'd want it to generate rage 100% of the time
green wharf
not fury or arms
PROT*,
exotic forge
Rage isn't really an issue
green wharf
I don't see why you'd want it to generate rage 100% of the time
fury have like 13 skills that generate rage, arms only have auto attack, charge and the 35% chance with overpower
is trash
green wharf
not enough
exotic forge
Then you must be doing something wrong if you're struggling with rage as Arms
green wharf
and if you are not taking damage, lmao
exotic forge
You are never not gonna take dmg tho
green wharf
i dont do arenas with arms, im not a fool
exotic forge
Then where are you going with this?
I get it man, game's boring right now. Next patch will come soon, relax
green wharf
Then where are you going with this?
delicate sandal
will fury be better than arms still in 11.1?
rancid granite
will fury be better than arms still in 11.1?
ask @fierce elm
green wharf
will fury be better than arms still in 11.1?
it was always better
green wharf
CURSE BROKEN
sand sundial
Slayer Fury felt horrible after playing a bunch of Thane
It might still be the best tho
green wharf
Slayer Fury felt horrible after playing a bunch of Thane
might be because slayer is dependand on haste
to proc the slayer strike
sand sundial
Maybe
delicate sandal
i think fane is slighjtly better rn
sand sundial
Stun/interrupt during bladestorm is crazy
Honestly? Make it baseline
It'd be funny
green wharf
we need a silence tbh
i would trade stormbolt for a silence
sooo much easier to kill healers or shut then down with DK
green wharf
we had one in mop and it was so broken
thats why mop is the best expansion
green wharf
5.0 is when we had 3% heal second wind
it was glorious
now second wind doesnt do shit
torn sigil
it was always 3% but gave 20 rage on root and stun too
and 3 second charge stun and 4 second shockwave
rancid granite
green wharf
it was always 3% but gave 20 rage on root and stun too
pretty sure they reduce to 2% in 5.1 or it was 5.2
and increased 3% back cause it became dogshit
torn sigil
on live it was but classic is always just the last patch all the way through
pretty sure
green wharf
on live it was but classic is always just the last patch all the way through
is it?
so when they release MOP classic is gonna be full 5.4?
patent forum
That’s how it’s been for every iteration so far
green wharf
i dont member how arms was in 5.4
tbf, i didnt ven played mop
cause i didnt had the expansion
i was hardstruck on lv 85
sterile moth
My god some of these solo queues feel scummy
green wharf
pity arms
spice hornet
Mop was great for warrior
violet fossil
i dont member how arms was in 5.4
arms was poop about midway
then got good last patch
lavish quest
CURSE BROKEN
Grats
sterile moth
Grats!
urban skiff
I hear blitz is free 3k
wish i could figure out how to get that 3k free blitz rating
I guess technically I have to start queuing to get it
@fierce elm i think i messed something up, i'm only getting 80 fps with everything maxed in bg3
I can still hit cap if i use DLSS performance + DLDSR but I loathe playing fullscreen mode instead of maximized windowed
green wharf
iw anted to play bg3 more, but pc gets too hot playing
rly hot
but it runs smooth as silk
torn sigil
i dont member how arms was in 5.4
ive played mop private servers for years i only started playing retail df s4
arms 5.4 is one of the peaks in the history of warr
green wharf
arms 5.4 is one of the peaks in the history of warr
i only played at lv 85 and it was great
all evening playing random bgs and killing lv 90 people in outland
urban skiff
unless you are already 2.5 or 2.6
I'm 1800 becuase I'm a slacker who stops queing immediately after hitting 1800 😦
how can I be so good at feral in pve but have zero clue what I'm supposed to do for damage in pvp?
green wharf
i think i will try to push 1800 with a rogue
but i dont seem to deal damage with outlaw
and i dont want other spec cause my mog is too good
green wharf
1,8k too low, aim higher
exotic forge
https://tenor.com/view/agony-wail-sadness-pooch-cry-gif-14235345
With that attitude you won't go any higher
torn sigil
1800 is free with all rogue specs
urban skiff
1800 is free with all rogue specs
how?
fierce elm
If you can hit 2.1 as any other spec you can hit 1800 as rogue without issue
the only odd spec to play is sub
Both assa and outlaw are easy for just basic floor level
fierce elm
what the fuck
optimizing BITCh
I looked at so many multiclasses for like an hour yday
urban skiff
not even optimized
If i were I'd be playing open hand monk using giant strength elixirs and capping out wisdom
wheat jay
<@144859308557860864> rate my monk
where more fire dmg?
hello?
why is it only 2 modifiers?
you can have 3 if you never played game and find random items hello O_O
MOAR DAMAGE
green wharf
not even optimized
i dunno fi they fixed by i think youc ould do some insane bs damage with tavern brawler
urban skiff
that is tavern brawler
but i'm playing a weird build just so i can be a luchador
just need my final level so I can get barb3 and eagle dive
green wharf
man after playing so much dnd i started disliking multiclass
i run like a plague, at best ig et 1-2 levels
urban skiff
Multiclassing to me is about creating my own class that plays in a way that i envision my character would play
Like my paladin 2, necromancer wizard 10 build. About as close to NWN's blackguard as I can get
and then I'm still missing out on extra attack
green wharf
Multiclassing to me is about creating my own class that plays in a way that i en...
i know the gig, i just got extremely overt to it after doing so much
urban skiff
tbh I'm enjoying the freedom to multiclass in bg3
green wharf
i was a mad lad of power gaming/min-max before
urban skiff
In tabletop it always comes with a LOT of social baggage
Will the DM or players oppose it and make it a thing? will it throw balance off completely?
green wharf
would end any monster in one turn with a warlock/paladin/fighter multiclass
urban skiff
Also helpful to remember that both multiclassing and feats are optional features in tabletop 5e
green wharf
Will the DM or players oppose it and make it a thing? will it throw balance off ...
i think it depends, mostly multiclasses are worse than playing the full class
urban skiff
depends on the full class
green wharf
with the exception of sorcadin/paladinwarlock
urban skiff
you almost never get to level 20 in tabletop
green wharf
the rest is mostly trash
green wharf
you almost never get to level 20 in tabletop
that as well, but still, isnt generaly stronger
at low levels barb/fighter can be functional/good
but usually full barb/full fighter will deal more dpr
urban skiff
frontloaded classes do well with multiclassing, casters generally don't do well
except with dips
green wharf
thats why most peopl just dip 1-2 at best
urban skiff
But any multiclass has to be viewed through all three pillars of the game.
People focus a lot on how you've become mechanically weaker with a multiclass in combat (to a lesser or greater degree)
But suddenly you have tool proficiencies and languages and exploration/social skills that also matter
So I can't be upset about it. If you need a demon raven to make your character happen, go get that warlock dip for pact of the chain, even if you're a fighter.
green wharf
People focus a lot on how you've become mechanically weaker with a multiclass in...
heh, most of it its trivialized by magic or lenient DM
magic in 5e is that powerful
thats why casters do better without multiclassing, stronger spells is game winnning
urban skiff
the caster vs martial thing is just infuriating
let martials do epic shit too
cleave mountains, leap over castles, charge through a dragon
fierce elm
let martials do epic shit too
I feel pretty epic stabbing someone with a random object
after realizing makeshift weapon means whatever you have the str to pick up
urban skiff
sure, i was thinking more about in tabletop D&D
At 13th level spellcasters reshape the land, change the weather, unleash plagues
and martials "hit twice and wait"
exotic forge
We need orc paladins so I can make one and name him Smorcadin
urban skiff
At 17th level wizards are effectively immortal and most spellcasters can blink anyone out of existence, live life on their own plane, call down meteors, unleash devastating earthquakes.
And martials can "hit things twice and sometimes a little harder"
green wharf
At 17th level wizards are effectively immortal and most spellcasters can blink a...
tbf, martials can eat meteors just fine
urban skiff
It's not about a casters versus martials thing
I just think it's odd that a barbarian can walk up to a castle gate and do fuck all
but a wizard can do the same, and drop the entire thing.
Like i said, the disparity is just grating
urban skiff
why can't we have full body tattoos too?
green wharf
sinful
urban skiff
Gale is a warlock now
if you're playing below honour mode difficulty, the extra attack from pact of the blade stacks with extra attack from martial classes. (at least until patch8).
So you can get 3 mainhand attacks
fierce elm
if you're playing below honour mode difficulty, the extra attack from pact of th...
The what now
urban skiff
@green wharf did you see patch 8 subclasses yet?
urban skiff
The what now
pact of the blade is the melee warlock. It gets extra attack. Extra attack NEVER stacks
But in this case, it does
So the only class to get 3 mainhand attacks per action is fighter at level 11.
green wharf
<@423000056908742657> did you see patch 8 subclasses yet?
they got most of the most popular classes
specs*
fierce elm
Yeah but I want him to BLAST with spells
fierce elm
So far Shadowheart as Tempest cleric is wild as fuck ngl
urban skiff
Their version of arcane archer is pretty nice though
urban skiff
I really wish we could have gotten divine soul subclass
fierce elm
Astarion is doing ranger stuff
green wharf
shadow sorc make much more sense to be the dark urge
urban skiff
Yeah but I want him to BLAST with spells
remember warlock is a special type of caster
green wharf
never made sense to me its storm sorc by default
urban skiff
shadow sorc make much more sense to be the dark urge
finally a fellow durge lover who thinks sorc is the default class.
Also remember no spoilers because Afro is a virgin
fierce elm
Also remember no spoilers because Afro is a virgin
EXACTLY
urban skiff
it's difficult to discuss durge without ruining durge
But trust me, you made the right choice to go durge
urban skiff
It enhances your story experience significantly, and when you play another origin or custom later you can see what happens when durge + butler isn't along
wheat jay
Would be funny if durge could be a companion xD
urban skiff
Fuck i wish we could
fierce elm
It enhances your story experience significantly, and when you play another origi...
Butler just showed up randomly
urban skiff
the fun part is rping the character you make
This
game has more than enough exp to take you to max level way way way before reaching the end so missing out on content because your character wouldn't do it doesn't make the game unbeatable
wheat jay
i did morally good monk durge 😄
urban skiff
I made shadowheart do unspeakable things, romanced her, and then in her hour of need i broke her trust in every way possible and condemned her
fierce elm
the fun part is rping the character you make
My dumb af barb has had some meme moments ngl
such as when Gale tried to teach me magic
or when lazael tried to stab me
or really whenever he touched a magical artifact
I did get a sick one handed mace or w.e from the creche
Im more worried about when I should go to the tower or w.e
rancid granite
any of you play it with controller
im much more inclined to play an rpg if i could sit back with controller but i never gave it a try yet lol
fierce elm
I reckon its probably finr
urban skiff
im much more inclined to play an rpg if i could sit back with controller but i n...
supposedly larian really nailed controller support
remember if you have two controllers the game supports local coop play 🙂
urban skiff
I know we're against redundant information and stuff in here
But is it ok to have "the big" partyframes in the far left side where I don't look often, and then have small hp bars near or inside my own bar?
frank knoll
Saw a Assas rogue at 2.6 playing with controller
rancid granite
the ones getting rating on a steamdeck are even crazier lmao
controller but a small ass screen
urban skiff
There's a feral who did it too
delicate sandal
bro is arms just better in arena?
fickle forge
No
boreal veldt
We're cooler
torn sigil
arms for strong man fury for little baby
boreal veldt
exotic forge
Arms warrior? More like gigaCHAD warrior
true tiger
fury always superior
rancid granite
2nd weapon to compensate for something
lavish quest
I'm pretty sure it's a dumb bug
You go talk to the cow and have them hide profession tools
Until then, fishing poles out for harambe
urban skiff
fuckery is afoot
first match, mmr so low
yup
paired with a healer who managed to get down below 800 MMR from 1800
fickle forge
fuckery is afoot
You on heal?
torn sigil
You can lose 200 mmr per game even at that mmr which is insane so not that crazy that some noobs are 800
urban skiff
You can lose 200 mmr per game even at that mmr which is insane so not that crazy...
Holywhat
That's crazy amounts of mmr to lose
delicate sandal
do you guys have a macro for defensive and zerker stance
brazen rock
do you guys have a macro for defensive and zerker stance
#showtooltip
/cast [spec:1, nostance] Battle Stance; [spec:2, nostance] Berserker Stance; [spec:1, stance:1] Battle Stance; [spec:1, stance:2] Defensive Stance; [spec:2, stance:1] Berserker Stance; [spec:2, stance:2] Defensive Stance
delicate sandal
does that make it one button to swap?
brazen rock
yea
delicate sandal
dope
green wharf
That's crazy amounts of mmr to lose
if you get Dc'ed or quit you lose 200mmr
green wharf
man just went a random bg, forgot to switch gear
i was facerolling people
its good to have a pocket healer
drowsy yarrow
I have a marco with reck/avatar/bladestorm that works fine with slayer but isn't usable for me when I switch to mountain thane, would anyone be able to explain this?
rancid granite
it's telling you it's a ridiculous macro
green wharf
sometimes macros with bladestorm break when you switch spec
it happened with colossus
sharp meteor
ya my avatar binds break when i queue as fury when prot
inner sigil
is arms good again in 11.1
inner sigil
and when tf will it come out
green wharf
is arms good again in 11.1
no
green wharf
no, but if you lose the third then yes
spice hornet
@sharp meteor am i cooked or does playingg fury into assa/aff/hpal just feel beans
my dam just always feels really low into that comp
sharp meteor
feels bad if they get their go off and idk how to cleanly stop it
u just get fully dotted before u can play
and are deadge
spice hornet
yep
sharp meteor
my dam just always feels really low into that comp
i feel like anything can die but like
good grief chasing aff with hpal is horrific
when was playin frost tsg we'd just go back and forth from rogue to hpal and that felt great for a while
spice hornet
good idea
@sharp meteor in general playing into an hpal as a comp with no dispel just feels awful for fury
sharp meteor
<@129440991294783488> in general playing into an hpal as a comp with no dispel j...
It does.
Hpal mage outlaw very unenjoyable
inner sigil
Is high mountain Tauren good for fury warr rn
spice hornet
non-gnome warrior is sus
inner sigil
But isn’t gnome better still
green wharf
But isn’t gnome better still
you want something good or the best
race doesnt matter unless you are pushing glad
not gonna win more because you picked gnome
vapid tartan
Always gnome
green wharf
gnomes look fucking awful, so i rather look cool
you eal more damage motivated with a good looking character
fierce elm
@urban skiff gotta say I preferred the math over whatever we are doing now
we got motors and electrical power rn
urban skiff
fuck yeah
urban skiff
I give it 16 hours before you're listening to some indian guy explain it better in 5 minutes than your teacher could ever explain it over a full semester
we're fucking blessed that they speak Indian English in India. A full repository of knowledge that is easily digestible
fierce elm
We got lab tomorrow lmao
So a week in school
But really like 70% of one course was safety
and who bears the responsibility
Thank fuck we are moving into specialist courses next time
One of the questions on the study test was ”Who bears responsibility to maintain electrical outlets in a rented office”
urban skiff
We got lab tomorrow lmao
someone died in the engineering lab while i went to my school
electrocuted because he didn't do safety
fierce elm
Yeah I get that part
but who maintains electrical outlets in a rented office is quite literally useless for me to know
We have had safety stuff last course too
this was mainly about who bears the responsibility
and who regulates these laws in Sweden
urban skiff
this was mainly about who bears the responsibility
Pretty sure I know the answer to that one
fierce elm
Sure as fuck aint the renter lmao
urban skiff
It's the highest entity that is the reason you're working on the electrical systems, but also your employer
fierce elm
Yeah, in private things its the big boys generally
urban skiff
So the owner of the building (probably, idk about sweden) has the responsibility until the exact moment you agree on your company's behalf to engage in work, then it becomes your employers responsibility
urban skiff
So you're responsible for inspecting that it's safe, your boss is responsible for making sure you know how to tell and that you feel safe telling or walking away
fierce elm
Unless agreed differently
Yeah
We went through what could go wrong last time
Including but not limited to arc flashes etc
urban skiff
did they show you the video with an electrical explosion in russia?
He engaged or disengaged the switch gears and something went poof and there wasn't even boots left of him
fierce elm
did they show you the video with an electrical explosion in russia?
They showed a swedish example
back in like 2002
urban skiff
People don't think about it like it, but electricity is like dynamite
fierce elm
However, I as the very curious person has seen enough injuries from India/Russia/China
To realize what could happen lmao
urban skiff
is why i don't feel super safe around teslas. You're literally sitting on a small can of TNT
fierce elm
Even working on the 24v board we are given to work on I am careful as fuck
I aint tryna die because my heart decides enough is enough by a lil shock
fierce elm
People don't think about it like it, but electricity is like dynamite
They harp on this a ton
Even when working on smaller things that we are doing now
urban skiff
Our teacher kept saying that if we ever invent a battery with the same energy density as petrol or TNT, we should write it all down and bring it straight to him and tell nobody else
so he could murder us, take it, and instantly become a trillionaire
fierce elm
Worked on Y and D connections last time and three-phase, one dude didnt make sure his board was unplugged before connecting
He got a mouthful from the teacher
”You will maybe die if you do this at a workplace” got the message across clearly
Cant wait to work with motors now though
urban skiff
You'll maybe die in a workplace. You WILL die in my class because I'll strangle you myself
fierce elm
Yeah lmao he was not happy
particularly since 50% of that course was seeing how things could go wrong
and how you cant trust shit
It will go boom even if you tinl you are right
urban skiff
lockout tagout is such a vital thing
I've been at a factory where they didn't have a lockout tagout on a CNC machine
just a sign they hung over the control panel
fierce elm
kek
urban skiff
Electrician went in to work on it
Dummy worker came over, said to herself "Hey I was told to work on this. Let's pull sign to the side and get started". Shut the machine and pushed start
luckily CNC machines back then had flimsy shields / doors so he just burst out of the machine immedately after figuring out what was going on
man that place was the wild west
fierce elm
Yeah, they mentioned a lot about workplaces cheating or private residences
urban skiff
They tipped a crucible with liquid cast iron and it spilled out over a worker
fierce elm
And not to trust SHIT and to actually report things
urban skiff
He was OK somehow, not dead at least
fierce elm
Yeah turns out workplace safety is huge lmao
who woulda known
still tryna figure out what I wanna do in a few years
figure I take the first job I can
Its either that or go even more specialized
urban skiff
My teacher used to say to take any job. If you love it you learn something about yourself. If you hate it then you learn something about yourself
fierce elm
But I also figure 3 years of workplace experience speaks louder than a 3 year uni education
urban skiff
You'll want both tbh
I'm close to hitting my 3 year mark working with project management and I'm starting to get contacted unsolicited by both recruiters and hiring managers.
fierce elm
Yeah, I figure working 3 years then deciding what I wanna specialize in
Its either wind or nuclear at this point tbh
Mostly because it sounds cool as hell to work in the nuclear sector
But yeah this course is more wack than the math course
also kicking Nicotine next week so in for a journey rn
urban skiff
Both are solid
you might be able to get into the marine sector too but you'll need a bit of extra schooling that they'll probably pay for if you agree to work for them for 3 years or something
Marine sector, at least here, is tax free and it's almost always 1:1 on and off ship
so if you sail 3 months you have 3 months of hanging out at home
urban skiff
There are many limitations and it can be tough, plus if you're in a certain point of building a family it's going to be more tough
I regret not sailing when I had the opportunity
fierce elm
Water kinda spooky
I just want an exciting workplace tbh
that has inside and outside work
Would absolutely love to go into blasting tunnels lmao
Pays like a mofo
wheat jay
Wtf is that
green wharf
bg3 spoiler
one of the bad things about dnd is that there is a big degenerate fanbase
urban skiff
Shipping characters is like the least degenerate thing d&d players do
green wharf
"shipping" is a degenerate cringe thing and i hate it
valid ermine
is ignore pain even worth pressing, seems useless asf
fierce elm
is ignore pain even worth pressing, seems useless asf
yes
fickle forge
is ignore pain even worth pressing, seems useless asf
yes
green wharf
is ignore pain even worth pressing, seems useless asf
its worthy pressing, yes it is useless
delicate sandal
Does warrior have a high skill ceiling like rogue and mage does?
fierce elm
Not really no
delicate sandal
Not even arms?
fickle forge
Colossus arms has a decent skill ceiling
lavish quest
Warrior insane skill cap
Figuring out how to deal damage while not being allowed to play the game
wheat jay
Colossus arms has a decent skill ceiling
stop the cap O_O
cs > stun > demolish
that's your skill cap
fierce elm
Not even arms?
no
fierce elm
You are comparing specs that have the highest skill cap to a spec that has like 3 things to keep in mind
fierce elm
Just because its ”decent” doesnt mean its higher than rogue nor mage
Especially once you go into specs
fierce elm
both Arcane and sub/outlaw eclipses any specs skill ceiling
Fire/assa/frost a little less
especially frost in this current iteration
wheat jay
high skill cap, arcane > sub > outlaw > fire > feral > survi > everything else
fierce elm
however, skill ceiling doesnt mean rating gains
wheat jay
fury at the very end
rancid granite
I remember asking the same question coming back 🥹
rancid granite
just make a mage or rogue alt for when you get bored and need high skill cap fun
rancid granite
I also realized there's so much more to think about than class skill caps
like the actual game and the enemy and cool downs and etc
fierce elm
Skill ceiling doesnt mean rating gain in the end
fickle forge
If you master arcane mage rn, you're doing what a decent frost mage can do
fierce elm
you arent rewarded for playing sub over assa for example lmao
wheat jay
and very unfun xD
rancid granite
I mean maybe get good at the game first before worrying about skill caps
lavish quest
defensives are terrible
Git gud
fickle forge
I mean maybe get good at the game first before worrying about skill caps
This as well
wheat jay
and spec is squishy by itself
lavish quest
I like karma
lavish quest
rancid granite
also monks gonna be so rad s2 when they can be goku and the monkey king lol
fierce elm
I mean maybe get good at the game first before worrying about skill caps
Cant hit skill caps without it
wheat jay
xD
rancid granite
Cant hit skill caps without it
I worried about class skill caps before I can even read omnibar or my addons or what other classes did lol
fierce elm
lmao
delicate sandal
Gimme a warrior spec with two pistols and a sword like dante
rancid granite
so in that aspect any class can be high skill cap @ dred
rancid granite
Gimme a warrior spec with two pistols and a sword like dante
that's outlaw rogue
lavish quest
Ya know... I've been healing on rdru last couple days in 2s. I feel like a bully against warriors
fickle forge
If warrior players wanted a skill cap, they'd just spec colossus arms
fierce elm
Gimme a warrior spec with two pistols and a sword like dante
so Outlaw lmao
rancid granite
is there an echo in here
hot solstice
so Outlaw lmao
nah its deadweight Nero with 1 pistol and grapling like devil bringer
Warrior has charge stinger
fierce elm
is there an echo in here
is there
wheat jay
If warrior players wanted a skill cap, they'd just spec colossus arms
not much of a difference but sure buddy
wheat jay
best mindcontrol, throw a freezing trap, miss
both you and healer stand still
look at each other
throw explosive trap to knock him into trap
wheat jay
what's that?
rancid granite
only took daily wq's for months in BFA
wheat jay
also, why does monk have ZERO mind control setups and abilities?
you can't do shit on it
rancid granite
fierce elm
also, why does monk have ZERO mind control setups and abilities?
RoP, Para, leg, clash(?)
hot solstice
also, why does monk have ZERO mind control setups and abilities?
clash+ring enemy team into 3ple leg sweep
fierce elm
Even the teleport spell can be a set up spell
hot solstice
put ur tp on warlocks
fierce elm
Mofo has a ton of set up
hot solstice
dont tell him about walking dead
green wharf
i use to like monk, but after blitz i fucking hate it
fickle forge
not much of a difference but sure buddy
You can't say this shit when you don't play the class bro
wheat jay
i did tho
i played arms first before i swapped fury this season
and i played colossus
wheat jay
which i am, that's why i always did double your dps in keys
fickle forge
And why you do a third of my dps in arena
Nah shut up man, this dood gonna pull up the numbers when I watched his 280k dps colossus arms in 2s
wheat jay
you say that, yet you win the most with me
fierce elm
Just kiss real quick
fierce elm
you say that, yet you win the most with me <:keks:936231610850897992>
turns out having 3/3 people on an alt can be wack
wheat jay
xD
fierce elm
dw we totally have a comp next season
wheat jay
do we?
i mean, i have 4 classes i can play now
well
2 i can play
2 i can somehow play
fickle forge
Maybe overqualified even
fickle forge
and somehow people die
It's called placement shuffles
delicate sandal
are fury not running 4 set?
rancid granite
are fury not running 4 set?
murlok.io best website
wheat jay
would be 4th this season
man im too bored i swear to god XD
OKAY BIG QUESTION
did i break the threshold of getting 100 per win?
xD
or am I just below it
fickle forge
did i break the threshold of getting 100 per win?
Idk what you're asking
fierce elm
OKAY BIG QUESTION
below it
sharp meteor
I thought it was 1400
fierce elm
I heard it was 1600 but who knows
sharp meteor
Idk what you're asking
You get 96 per win to a point
sharp meteor
21 cr for 3300 mmr win at 1954 cr gg
lavish quest
did i break the threshold of getting 100 per win?
You're above it now
fickle forge
Bro how has Dailyshuffle played 4800 shuffle rounds and not gone insane
hot solstice
is it ok to bop bubble in a row when dueling?
hot solstice
whatchu mean
fierce elm
Yes
But what do you mean, if you are dueling a warrior why would you need to Bop then bubble immediately?
You most likely kill the warrior in BoP anyways if its a pure 1v1
hot solstice
nah I just lost to dude who bop bubble
fierce elm
Yeah, but honestly ret is gonna kill you regardless of BoP/bubble timing
rancid granite
Bro how has Dailyshuffle played 4800 shuffle rounds and not gone insane
you kinda gotta be insane in the first place to do it, see: vesa
fickle forge
you kinda gotta be insane in the first place to do it, see: vesa
Vesa at least had a clear goal in mind
Dailyshuffle just Qs day in and out
fickle forge
its that easy 😄
Try and say that to Kraanos bro
fickle forge
just Q and have fun and try your best
There's gotta be a limit man
If I'm being generous here and say Dailyshuffle has had 0 leavers and around 25 min Q time per lobby
Then man has sat 333 hours in Q
rancid granite
There's gotta be a limit man
well yeah gotta still touch grass LMAO
fickle forge
This is why 3s is superior ngl
fierce elm
Dailyshuffle just Qs day in and out
He also streams it
fickle forge
I think Budaya and Jobart here take the cake though
idle falcon
just entered a lobby of solo shuffle
SP, balance druid, and elemental shammy
lost first 3
won 2
then the healer left
i didn't lose rating though which is big
fickle forge
You lose a bit of MMR though, which is what matters
lavish quest
and 1800 took 6 shuffles
I can't believe you paid for wintrading
lavish quest
Try and say that to Kraanos bro
Brutal call out
sterile moth
Those healers above have to be part of a win trading scheme
fickle forge
Win trading at 1900
slow solstice
hi
green anchor
win trading for that elite set 💪
slow solstice
@wheat jay why win trade noob?
wheat jay
to look like this 👍
rancid granite
delicate sandal
In 2v2 do you focus the healer or what
copper fox
You focus whatever is easier to hit
spice hornet
In 2v2 do you focus the healer or what
Above 2400 mmr in 2s mainly killing dps
wheat jay
Most of the time you'll be killing dps
sharp meteor
In 2v2 do you focus the healer or what
depends. in general it's hit dps but sometimes swaps healer
in some matchups going healer is an option
rdruid walks up no hots bonk bonk bonk theyhot/bark swap back to their partner etc
dense herald
vs priest outlaw rogue i go priest idk
cuz if i go rogue he just does massive cleave
wheat jay
2s are also the dumbest arena bracket out of the three with the worst meta
3s are cool
Shuffle is just scuffed 3s with more chaos and zero coordination
2s is all about playing the most broken specs there
green wharf
i was doing some 2s for the lulls with a heal monk
i was frost dk
and yeah shit was wild
i think i lost to double dps once
cause absurd burst damage
delicate sandal
depends. in general it's hit dps but sometimes swaps healer
Bruh every enemy dps just runs down my healer
sharp meteor
i mean sometimes that's good other times it isn't
them hitting ur healer usually puts them into a bad spot
healer can't always kite but they can drag
fickle forge
Largely depends on the comp whether you go heal or not
green wharf
Wwhen i lost to double dps they bursted my healer down
under cc and silence evoker and DH eat him nicely
stark agate
Would prioritizing haste be better for Fury, since it would get more MS stacks and rotate CDs with Anger Management sooner?
copper fox
No