pvp

[wheat jay]

fuck dem giths

[fierce elm]

tryna stab me and shit

[wheat jay]

all my homies hate giths

[chilly pivot]

do u know if i can track if they cast CC on me if they use focus or arena123 macros to cast it?

[wheat jay]

do you want a small tiny tiny tiny spoiler?

[fierce elm]

no

[wheat jay]

so you don't miss a HUGE part of the game

[fierce elm]

Targeting frames

but probably not the way you want it

[wheat jay]

its not story related, more like route related

[fierce elm]

I am vibing rn

[wheat jay]

fair

[sterile moth]

Anyone play PoE2?

[lavish quest]

I did a bit. Need to get back to it

[boreal veldt]

someone showed me the talent tree/web/multiverse of poe2 and i got scared

[true tiger]

bro those shuffle games at 2.3k be nightmare.MW didnot dispell single poly bcs he said i didnot kick it.WHILE IM IN FREEZES and mage is in africa

bro thinks i have ranged kicks

those ego maniacs at 2.3k

[fickle forge]

It's simpler than WoW's tree

[fickle forge]

Joe played on 2.5k earlier today where the mage and ret didn't hit their bubbles 3 rounds in a row

[true tiger]

i swear some mages are also ego maniacs

they refuse to use IB just bcs ,,healer needs to use first defensive so i wont,,

like bro...

[boreal veldt]

SOME?!

[true tiger]

sorryu

70% minimum

[boreal veldt]

🤝

[true tiger]

BUT HEY when they ar ein enemy team

they play like a god

ofc

this mw was 3k in blitz also

idk how

this guy managed that

0 freeze dispel 0 poly dispell and bro wanted me to kick mage

while i was in africa rooted

[torn sigil]

3k in blitz as mw means absolutely nothing I'm afraid, literally not even joking

[fickle forge]

Because Blitz is free

No blitz healer has their dispel bound on their bars

[hot solstice]

lmao

imagine they revert it again

[exotic forge]

They reversed the reversal lol

[hot solstice]

"new visuals"

[exotic forge]

Warbreaker now does a Whirlwind animation

CS effect has this visual when applied as well

[exotic forge]

A better example, thank you

[fierce elm]

thats pretty cool

[exotic forge]

cool visual tbh, lets us know who got hit and has CS debuff

[hot solstice]

honestly hopped for something like this:

https://tenor.com/view/lich-king-arthas-fall-of-the-lich-king-launch-trailer-world-of-warcraft-wrath-of-the-lich-king-classic-gif-4269177950761949412

[exotic forge]

it's alright though the previous "smash" animation makes more sense than the whirlwind

[hot solstice]

tsg copium?

ngl warrior being at the bottom of buffs adds dramatic effect every time

[chilly pivot]

tsg meta inc

[fickle forge]

Blizzard is cooked

[wheat jay]

Now one might think "oh my god arms buffs, cool"

But then you see fury buffs and you realise it will be even more broken lmao

[hot solstice]

dont forget previous 15% buff to mortal

[fickle forge]

I'm pretty sure this one overrides that

[wheat jay]

Ye, old one was reverted, this is the one that goes through

[slow solstice]

did you see the 50% value of the tiersets

[exotic forge]

That's expected

[torn sigil]

Are these confirmed for pvp or just pve?

[hot solstice]

and?

[slow solstice]

oh i thought that was not a normal thing

[fickle forge]

Tiers are always nerfed by 50%

[exotic forge]

In PvP, yes

[sterile moth]

What do you guys do for wrist and hand pain

[boreal veldt]

nice to see the earlier revert was just to keep the class changes all together

[hot solstice]

it wasnt for arms df s4 though

fat 15% mortal buff...no wonder arms was so weak at s1 start cause they cut off so much

still is

[torn sigil]

Tell him to do it himself

[fickle forge]

They specifically buffed up that set

Cause S1 sets were ass compared to S3

[hot solstice]

ye but it wasnt nerfed in pvp

[fickle forge]

It was until they buffed it up

[boreal veldt]

execute still gonna be off your bars for colossus

wouldn't even use it for exe prec

the 10% exe buff is cute though

juggernaut continues it's reign of terror for another season

[exotic forge]

Do wrist exercises to avoid carpal tunnel

[sterile moth]

Jesus slam is going to hit for 1m+

[sand sundial]

fury prob gonna go crazier in pvp now

[exotic forge]

Didn't even notice Slam got buffed lmao

[rancid granite]

yap wrist exercises, proper desk setup for posture n stuff

gonna be endless youtube videos of info on it

[exotic forge]

Stretch your hands as well

[boreal veldt]

fervor unironically might go crazy in pvp 2target

col arms running cleave in pvp lmfao

what a concept

also noticed not a single bleed was buffed

[sterile moth]

@bless I know! It could be good

[exotic forge]

I mean, yeah we shouldn't be a bleed spec

[sterile moth]

Agree

Deep wounds is fine but we shouldnt be applying other bleeds

Although baking in rend and hamstring together would be acceptable

[exotic forge]

Bake Slam and Hamstring together wdym

[sterile moth]

Even better

[boreal veldt]

IDK if this is a hot take. New "banner" is just horrible and shorter rally is just the same if not better in every regard.

[valid ermine]

this would be great

[sand sundial]

nnah new talents are all garbo

removing mobility is crazy

[exotic forge]

No you're right, it's a worse version of banner

[valid ermine]

did anyone actually use banner anyway

[exotic forge]

You need to take the berserker shout talent too

[exotic forge]

In some comps yes

Mainly against heavy cc chains like rogues

[valid ermine]

seems useless in 2s and 3s

[sterile moth]

In 2s against mage rogue it’s really nice

[valid ermine]

true

[boreal veldt]

Burning 1 of your 2 flex talents on an aoe fear break just for the new "banner" I'd almost consider griefing

[torn sigil]

Games gone

Banner was great against mage rogue and I took it a lot in gilneas

[simple rock]

using banner well vs RMP or setup comps in general was incredibly enjoyable

blizzard has made some pretty regarded changes this upcoming patch

[sand sundial]

The new clunky dragon charge also gets rid of your leap

[torn sigil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/s/cb660B0lz1

BRB rope

[sand sundial]

It's so...

[boreal veldt]

it's genuinely not a good button outside of the AV bridge

[simple rock]

I see the junior artists are in charge of animations for warrior

[sand sundial]

Lost barbarian and trance for it

[simple rock]

dragon charge as prot is pretty good disruption

but not enough to trade for leap...

[sand sundial]

I'd rather die than do any of that

[simple rock]

I qd arms prot at 2.4 this season

it's pretty good sometimes

[sand sundial]

For me Thane was the missing sauce

[boreal veldt]

CS gets a new animation meanwhile demolish still bricks your ui if it glitches

[simple rock]

demolish was such a missed opportunity

at least in a pvp context

[boreal veldt]

cs animation looks overdesigned too

why am i summoning a bunch of weapons made of light

theres another class doin that already

lmfao

bout to level my scribe up to glyph that away asap

[green wharf]

stop buffing slam

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-out-black-guy-tweaking-meme-gif-6022943353035016664

[hot solstice]

oh yeah I low my thunder clap button as filler

I would rather press slam than that wannabe feral button

[green wharf]

doesnt look good to me im afraid

[hot solstice]

u mortal strike grounding?

[green wharf]

yeah

look very not warrior imo

nerfing mages, is this even real life

[exotic forge]

Nerf it more

[torn sigil]

Not even a nerf

[hot solstice]

HELL YEAAAAAAAH!!!!!

FINALY

cool execute animation

much better than yellow poo

somehow only execute now changes animation while sweeping but not mortal

[green wharf]

this does look good

it reminds me of condem

[boreal veldt]

so they gave it back after taking it away for s1

[hot solstice]

its not wxactly condemn

its not that wide

and its kinda more detailed

[boreal veldt]

it's slayer only

[exotic forge]

The visuals look more crisp on PTR than on live, it's pretty good

Still no sweeping MS tho

[hot solstice]

666ilvl slam no joke

mortal tooltip is 1.1mil

but

1

2

3

[boreal veldt]

lmao

thats max stacks

[hot solstice]

mine was with 5 stacks but no avatar

sec

with everything

[exotic forge]

Bear in mind, it won't hit for that exact amount of damage

[hot solstice]

it wont

[boreal veldt]

ofc

[hot solstice]

666 ilvl

12mil hp as fury

glad I have 3 warriors

[exotic forge]

Overpower will be hitting almost ms levels of dmg tho

[hot solstice]

feel like slayer arms needs more buffs on execute

[green wharf]

the deal is everyone stop playing arms

so they can rework it

[rancid granite]

they reverted the dmg buff to give us whatever the hell this is LOL

[boreal veldt]

delete arms

idk how to cope this new meta

no execute, cleave, slam spam, demolish is close to being a dps loss over keeping the stacks for OP

delete colossus

[rancid granite]

i was fixin to main it for s2 regardless of how good it is

its still coolest spec

[hot solstice]

op does no dam

[copper fox]

I don’t understand why they destroyed arms

The spec makes no sense anymore

[hot solstice]

who said destroyed?

idk I shotted same ilvl ww with demolish mortal

no crits

2400kk demolish into 3200kk mortal

no crits

[sterile moth]

Demo MS are going to get insanely big

[spice hornet]

That animation doesn’t even make sense

[boreal veldt]

Needs dev citation and explanation

[spice hornet]

Probably trying to do something exciting and really different since warrior basically has no noticeable animations

Like ele has had lightning bolt updated 4 times at this point

[torn sigil]

they should try do something good instead

20 years and owning cod and wow money too much to ask i guess

[inner sigil]

so as a ret whats better against a frost dk, blessing of protection or blessing of spellwarding

[torn sigil]

they can purge bop no?

[spice hornet]

Dks?

[inner sigil]

idk

[green wharf]

War is so fucked paladins come here to ask for advice

[green wharf]

is this warbreaker?

[boreal veldt]

yeah, it's bad man

[boreal veldt]

i screen capped that from wowhead video you can see it there in full

[green wharf]

its so goofy

spectral weapons, instead of the ground breaking appart?

https://tenor.com/view/wtff-cat-confused-orange-gif-25858653

[exotic forge]

I'll take that white over the brown that blends with most maps

[green wharf]

Do you guys know what addon is, that show a bar in your status

showing how much you need for the % to go up?

[tribal beacon]

we need gag order back

[exotic forge]

Hell no

[tribal beacon]

why

[fickle forge]

Yeah this is pretty awful

[wheat jay]

Gotta play fury or prot to never see that shit lmao

[green wharf]

its not like anyone pick warbreaker anyway

[wheat jay]

It looks like it casts random weapons

[fickle forge]

When they said new animations, I was expecting them to do the Demolish one, since they've been such a fan of it lately

[wheat jay]

Which is cool but why are the spermed on?

[exotic forge]

I like how everyone went from liking it to hating it real quick

[fickle forge]

But nope, it's just whirlwind

[fickle forge]

Does anyone like this?

[wheat jay]

Why not give us spikes like in legion, just not purple

[fickle forge]

The first pet class I face and I fry your CPU

[wheat jay]

Unholy+demo

[exotic forge]

I've seen mixed opinions but most of them hate it

[fickle forge]

I think it's terrible man

[wheat jay]

Youre gonna proc entire transmog section

[loud marsh]

Good morning

[fickle forge]

I can get behind the armor shattering

The weapons are so random and weird

[exotic forge]

They could just lower the opacity of the visual or change the colors

[wheat jay]

And covered in cumm

[loud marsh]

Hallo karanze how are you doing

[fickle forge]

Sup bro

[loud marsh]

I believe you are danish as well

[fickle forge]

Ofc man

[loud marsh]

Good

[fickle forge]

They could also just, not have them

Leave weapon images to rets

Or DKs

[mental violet]

Arms warr gettin dragon charge is gonna be fun

[wheat jay]

This only for bgs

You will NEVER play it in arena

[mental violet]

wrong

[wheat jay]

Unless it's dalaran arena you want to cheese knock healer off the edge xD

[mental violet]

knock healer far away into a stun then fear then showckwave, name it

[wheat jay]

Ye but you also knock your main target away

Would be better if it worked like another charge to a target and you knock everything in the way

[fickle forge]

Blizzard is not cooking

[green wharf]

no bro is rly dogshit

you are giving up leap for it

we already suck it mobility

[wheat jay]

They burnt the food, and someone came on warbreaker 😦

[green wharf]

we cant even control the charge

[fickle forge]

I was really expecting it to be a variation of Demolish

Instead we got whirlwind with spectral weapons

[wheat jay]

Legion warbreaker but brown spikes

Done, can I work at blizz now?

[cinder sluice]

Is it real? Are we getting buffed?

[fickle forge]

Yes

[fierce elm]

Whirlwijnd with spectral gorehowl*

[fierce elm]

oh my lord lmao

"THEY CHANGED THE ANIMATION I REFUSE TO PLAY"

[fickle forge]

I really don't like it either lmao

[fierce elm]

What happened to Warbreaker just smashing the ground up

Yeah but you aint quitting over an animation lmao

[wheat jay]

Lets go play gw2

[fickle forge]

Why am I playing this game if not for the dopamine hits bro

[mental violet]

why do u say clueless stuff all the time?

[green wharf]

then go on, play it your hearts content

[mental violet]

ur just saying bullshit "you cant controll the charge"

[fickle forge]

It's just another micro CC the game doesn't need

[mental violet]

yes u can.

[green wharf]

you cant like you can do it with leap

like i said, good luck trying it

[elfin surge]

[wheat jay]

I think he means you can't drift

Like dragons

[exotic forge]

You can control it but not the way you'd expect. Overall it's very situational and in a normal arena setting it's not worth picking over leap

[fickle forge]

Nah it'll definitely see use I'm sure

It's another micro CC

[exotic forge]

Bear in mind you can't do ANYTHING other than steer during the charge

[fickle forge]

You can just cancel the charge

Do CC and then cancel it

[frank knoll]

Might play arms next patch idk
Didn’t it get some buffs? They need to buff execute

I like the sharpen changes

[hot solstice]

imagine this worked like ww knock up

[frank knoll]

WW knock up is so obnoxious

That spec honestly has some of the most annoying PvP mechanics to deal with in the game

[hot solstice]

I like being knocked on black rook arena standing at room entrance...u slowly fly into los from ur healer because there are lil stairs there

[green wharf]

evoker

[sterile moth]

Are the damage buffs posted for warrior yesterday in or out?

[lavish quest]

WW is fun in pvp

[fierce elm]

in

[sterile moth]

Nice

Not sure what it means. It seems like everything got buffed lol

[fierce elm]

basically everything got buffed

Seems like damage numbers were low on testing

[boreal veldt]

yeah warr in general was low across the board in raid/m+

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff goated roller tbh

[wheat jay]

Lmao nice

Who you got in party?

[fierce elm]

Gale, Astarion and Shadowheart

[wheat jay]

Almost goated

[fierce elm]

Astarion is my favorite so far

[wheat jay]

Where dommy mommy demon lady?

[wheat jay]

True 10/10 voice acting

[fierce elm]

in the camp

[wheat jay]

Wack

[sharp meteor]

nerf for prot

seems niche or bad for arms/fury

idk

[fickle forge]

Means fury will either get nuked in PvP or we can enjoy being the best spec in the game for a bit

[fickle forge]

Keep em' coming

[sharp meteor]

only affects bgb not arenos

[rancid granite]

best spec in the game for a bit.. flash backs to the first, what, 2 weeks of tww release?

[urban skiff]

Ask me how my day is going

[rancid granite]

then a rollercoaster of nerfs and stuff

hey zercher what's up how is your day going?

[sterile moth]

Fury and arms both should be really good

[rancid granite]

[fierce elm]

holy fuck lmao

[urban skiff]

Someone let the inside water out and it's thriving

Someone rolled a 1 tbh

[fierce elm]

Goddamn thats fucking aids

I am guessing someone didnt look at the plans before digging

[rancid granite]

what're we looking at

afro is trying to be polite and pretending to know

but we'll take a description

[fierce elm]

Looks like a waterpipe issue

Since they have dug out I would assume someone dug through a waterpipe

Especially snce he mentioned inside water out lmao

Either it got dug through or burst is what I am guessing

[rancid granite]

that makes sense

'oh its just a rock oh its just roots keep drillin'

[fierce elm]

yeah

some sort of that scenario

[torn sigil]

Drywall will cover that np

[urban skiff]

My guys dug into a water main that wasn't exactly where the plans said it would be

[fierce elm]

TOLD YOU

[rancid granite]

lmao

rip

[urban skiff]

I'll tell them tomorrow

I decided to just go home. They can go home when they finish fixing it

[rugged temple]

I Feel bad this xpac for the pvp folks that push gladiator. Got a fel bat as the mount and in season 2 instead of completely changing it up like they did with mythic + you get another fel bat lol

[sharp meteor]

Payback for DF where key mount was beans for four seasons and glad drakes were bis.

[elfin surge]

the bat sucks

😠

[wheat jay]

have you got it?

[elfin surge]

ya

[wheat jay]

lmao

ugly as fuck mount

[hot solstice]

get ready for dumb design

single pilar

fdk now shits on ur disarm

[dense herald]

how much of that dmg is on pets and secondary targets

or is that on 1 target

[hot solstice]

its just me on warrior vs dk

overpower hitting 2mil crits as slayer feels good

wish there was some healer on ptr to test sustain dam

[rancid granite]

did u get it with colossus

[dense herald]

hope i crit 2mil op against rogue using evasion

next season

[fierce elm]

Answer me this @wheat jay @urban skiff as spoiler free as you can

what can I not do before I am forced to leave act1

like can I go to the underdark?

What about the mountain pass?

[wheat jay]

you can do entirety of underdark

[fierce elm]

alright sick

[wheat jay]

except for the part that literally sends you to act2 there

there is a yes/no prompt there so dont worry

mountain pass is act 1.5

basically

so if i were to recommend something for more fun, id say go mountain pass

[urban skiff]

You have to resolve the Grove/goblin camp before heading to the mountain pass and that's the only true "must have" before act2. In act2 there's a point of no return that will warn you it is a point of no return.

[fierce elm]

I am killing everyone in the goblin camp rn

yeah I freed Halsin

and did the grove things

Thinking about going back and killing every druid tbh

the lil fucks

[urban skiff]

What did you do with snake mommy?

[fierce elm]

She is alive

[wheat jay]

snake bitch more like

fuck dem hoes

[rancid granite]

isn't that also an option though

[fierce elm]

Also enraged throw

[rancid granite]

😉

[fierce elm]

goated ability

[wheat jay]

nah not that one

[rancid granite]

i haven't gotten past act 1 but i should play it too

its really fascinating and incredibly difficult to play with multiple friends who each have their own whacky ideas and alignment lol

[hot solstice]

ngl so tired of this shit

[sterile moth]

The range of damage?

[hot lichen]

whats the best build right now? where do i find that ?

[fierce elm]

https://murlok.io/

[urban skiff]

why is the new colossus smash animation so fucking ugly

[hot solstice]

Not as ugly as war breaker

[urban skiff]

that's the one i meant

[rancid granite]

i thought that was a bad fever dream i had last night

thanks for reminding me it was real

[fierce elm]

Dont know why they arent keeping Warbreaker as breaking the ground

and making it pop up a bit

Like, I appreciate them making things more visible and updating animations

But WARBREAKER should absolutely break the ground in a circle

[lavish quest]

It should break warlocks

And mages

[hot solstice]

legit sitting whole day on ptr and cant find ppl to test damage

[fierce elm]

Yeah because its irrelevant

[wheat jay]

https://youtu.be/kh9tBef_1KA?si=OZLqFdf6mU9DwfuK&t=167

you mean like this?

[fierce elm]

Unless you are testing real things its completely irrelevant

[wheat jay]

like it already was before?

[fierce elm]

yeah idk why it was removed

[wheat jay]

it was goated

100%

[fierce elm]

Remove the purple bits, turn it into the same color scheme as sundering almost

[wheat jay]

make spikes brown, fixed

ye

[hot solstice]

like old shoulder hit overpower

[green anchor]

that looked horrible

glad they moved it to pummel

OP should have an overhead swing anim

[fierce elm]

I don't get what they are moving towards with the spectral stuff

[wheat jay]

its new cool shit i guess

even though its not O_O

[lavish quest]

Warbreaker should just be a big splash of blood

[violet fossil]

am I the only one that thinks it looks like absolute dookie

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/Fj_9D3xb1bg

this guide any good?

[hot solstice]

so here are some numbers vs geared mw

mortal

overpower

slam

execute

2nd duel got 2.4 mil noncrit mortal

all slayer

need find something more tanky for testing

slam numbers are wild though

1.5mil slam

[dense herald]

execute still doing less dmg than overpower i see

[hot solstice]

had only 2 duels

but still pretty good numbers

execute is pretty much there to setup big mortals

[sterile moth]

Thanks for sharing Doom. Lots of good buttons to push!

[hot solstice]

troar is meme at this point

[fickle forge]

Let it die

Give way for Spear

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-rawr-wink-cat-cat-rawr-cat-wink-gif-10696466307926879258

how troar looks now

[hot solstice]

its not how it looks

2 troar capstones not worth extra crit or haste

[fickle forge]

For fury yeah

[hot solstice]

u ither chose cdr or bleed buff

bleeds do nothing though

[fickle forge]

On arms they do

[wheat jay]

man still thinks people play arms

bruh

its not m+ kargish

this is pvp

[fickle forge]

1% crit is not going to beat out 30% amp

[wheat jay]

if it requires more than 1 braincell its bad

[fickle forge]

Admitting to be throwing I see

Go BM

[hot solstice]

If I had some healer to fight on ptr I would give more data+some tests as fury

[wheat jay]

no

[hot solstice]

arms buffs feel good

has problems with survival though but at least can do some pressure now

[fickle forge]

I wouldn't look too deep into it bro

PTR doesn't reflect arena

[rancid granite]

well i kinda wanted an excuse to post the gif anyway cause its cute

[fierce elm]

LOOK AT THE PTR NUMBERS

LOOK AT THEM

[hot solstice]

its just numbers

I test numbers

[fierce elm]

THEY MEAN EVERYTHING

[fickle forge]

We hit a little stronger and that's it

[hot solstice]

numbers same

[fierce elm]

GO GIVE US DATA RN

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-red-panda-aww-gif-2136409882530076861

[rancid granite]

:D!

[hot solstice]

ah I sent u few screens

uits up to u what to do with them

[fierce elm]

Im just kidding around when it all doesn't matter

[wheat jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1037699272012988486/1CFC6F34-BB31-40F6-AA72-DE250F097A90.gif

[fierce elm]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-knuckles-kiss-gif-12524247

me and karg when we try out ret/warr next season and it is S-tier

[fickle forge]

Stealing my GIFs you lil' bitch

[fierce elm]

Karg is Shadow

[hot solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/shreksophone-saxophone-shrek-stonks-memes-gif-15629425

[fickle forge]

Didn't ret get nerfed

[fierce elm]

They just shifted damage

Doesnt change anything basically

[fickle forge]

When @wheat jay asks to play KFC

https://tenor.com/view/chad-detected-opinion-accepted-jojo-handshake-kakyoin-handshake-polnareff-handshake-gif-27055136

[fickle forge]

You lost reckoning

[fierce elm]

Yeah, that one does kinda suck

but it seems like every spec lost a good pvp talent

[wheat jay]

❤️

[stark agate]

I don't like new warbreaker anim at all 😦

oh well I swapped fury anyway cause arms is cooked

Guts RP dream has died

[craggy geyser]

Fury forever

[frank knoll]

DH meta inc

[wheat jay]

Afaik it's not even good xD

Could change tho, but dh discord says it's middle of the pack at best

[fickle forge]

It wouldn't matter since we're KFC bois again

[wheat jay]

Always have been

[fickle forge]

KFC Chads looking at the other comps

[frank knoll]

40% buff on their highest damaging ability

They’re just gonna run over everyone again
Will be on par with Fury but even less skill

[wheat jay]

Which is highest mostly because its aoe, yes

And which is the most telegraphed shit in the game, yes

It happens, when they enter meta

[inner sigil]

whats the best ret pally race, dark iron, human or tauren

[fierce elm]

any of those three

[delicate sandal]

Is war looking good for 11.1 or

[wheat jay]

Transmog looks good indeed

In current ptr state its good

Will it be good when season starts, noone knows

[hot solstice]

average damage profile on ptr

thats vs holy priest

totaly dot spec

[delicate sandal]

Well DH is botched, paladin blows so this is it

[frank knoll]

Everything DH does is telegraphed and revolves around meta and yet they run over everyone when they get giga buffed like this

[green wharf]

ya boy got 2k with frost dk as well, might try to break my eternal rival curse

its 3 classes now

[gaunt tide]

Is there a good resource for fury slayer pvp rotation? Been trying wowhead recommended rotation, but can’t do more ST than mountain thane.

[stark agate]

Priority is Rampage if not enraged > Execute > Onslaught > Rampage > Raging Blow > Bloodthirst

Opener usually has you using Onslaught for enrage buff and hamstring/piercing howl.

[gaunt tide]

Thanks! I need to get used to hitting onslaught more. It provides a ton of fury as well.
Ok, what i missed is execute refreshing ashen juggernaught. There's this critical mass effect of stacking this up

[green wharf]

apparently not, its only these kind fo games now

[restive cobalt]

so is fury just that much better for arena than arms right now? wanting to push legend 2.5xp as arms, 2.1 as fury though

[green wharf]

prob

i was doing some 2s and i exploded an arms

Fury was pretty tough

[restive cobalt]

it feels strong into most caster cleaves, ill just stick with it i guess.

[fickle forge]

Wait until bro finds out what AoE and being kited is

[urban skiff]

Good thing i finished leveling one yesterday

[urban skiff]

Post build and stat spread

[urban skiff]

It's a dot class because the only damage you do while cc'd is dots

[wheat jay]

So, everything is a dot class then

[sand sundial]

Nah

Just play better designed classes

Mountain Thane has been so fun though

Slayer is actually boring as shit

[lavish quest]

I hate mages

Not even pet padding

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff I just got attacked for having an iron flask and just slaughtered them

the powerspike at level 5 is CRAZY

Gale is actually doing something

Shadowheart is half-useless just being a heal-bot

Astarion is doing wild damage as a stealth ranger with the durge cloak that makes you invis post a kill

[urban skiff]

That iron flask is hilarious

[fierce elm]

I have no fucking idea what it does

and at this point I am scared to use it

[urban skiff]

I wont tell you. if you use it you get a dialogue. You can also throw it

[fierce elm]

I LOVE THROWING STUFF

Did do a bunch of the underdark stuff

My abuse mechanic is letting gale spam magic missile with the neck that we found

that gives another bolt

[true tiger]

im with you in this one mt brother

i hate mages too

[fickle forge]

Garbage game

[lavish quest]

3 shuffles this morning. All of em had mages

But I went 10 - 8 amongst the 3 games and went up 60-70 CR

So we take it

[sterile moth]

Nice!

[delicate sandal]

Fuck me idk if I wanna run war, dh, dk, rogue

[true tiger]

war ofc

dh sucks

dk sucks

rogue is for pussies

war is always S or A tier

[sterile moth]

I don’t see how warrior isn’t going to be nerfed a shit ton after 11.1 is released

[hot solstice]

Well they buff feral for another 8% overall

I am not even talking about dh or leader of pack bm

Dark ranger at least had to press black arrow

also feels like rdruid meta

especialy considering mages now have to pick between ring of frost or fire

[wheat jay]

I had 2 mages and sp yesterday

And two discis without dispels bound

[lavish quest]

So just sit sp

They Can't run even with root spam

[wheat jay]

Ye except mages knew how to peel

And both placed ice wall

Played

[lavish quest]

I had frost, bm, boomy.
Arcane, aff, ww

Forget the 3rd, it was frost n some shit

[wheat jay]

I once had some absolutely crazy fury one shuffle

Mofo did rampage and exe with full cds, all went through blur

100-30 instantly lol

[lavish quest]

That should be the norm

At least on cloth

[urban skiff]

Patch 8 gives us new subclasses. The barbarian one is path of the giants, lets you throw medium creatures as a bonus action and you get kick, which is shove with doubled weight limit ( so flying goblins and kick huge things into canyons)

[urban skiff]

Base buffs are literally meaningless. It just means feral scales worse than other classes.

[fierce elm]

I am out here throwing whatever I can

[hot solstice]

Feral always scales bad in pve cause it’s pve meme, always have been

But not in pvp

[urban skiff]

They have same or worse scaling in pvp though

I can only think of enh that has positive modifiers

[urban skiff]

Remember throwing creatures is determined by strength. Higher strength raises threshold. If you examine creatures you can read their weight

You can get to 24 strength baseline with all the spoilers or higher temporarily with elixirs

Also you can't dick down Astarion if you want that high strength

[fierce elm]

I thnk I have 19(?)

str

Unsure

[urban skiff]

With hair or without? Trying to avoid spoilers

[fierce elm]

I got some hair from Ethel

That gave me an increase

Maybe I got 18 idk

[urban skiff]

If you get Tavern brawler feat you can raise strength to cap and do all kinds of funny shit with throwing

[fierce elm]

I only have one feat so far

[urban skiff]

Yeah next one.

[fierce elm]

Considering dropping GWM

and barbarian at this point tbh

[urban skiff]

Bonedaddy can help you respec to tweak your build if you make mistakes. But wont let you undo/change hair

[fierce elm]

Doing mad damage as Barb though

[urban skiff]

What level?

[fierce elm]

Astarion is also popping off with the durge cloak, a shadow helmet and stealth bonuses

5.5 ish rn

[urban skiff]

Full barb is strong. Mixing barb with rogue and fighter takes you to another level entirely

[fierce elm]

Just feel like I am not using frenzy enough

Because I constantly have 3 attacks

[urban skiff]

I never play frenzy barb because of gwm

[fierce elm]

and nobody is targeting my barb either

Yeah, the third attack pops constantly

Frenzy throw bodies is fun though

[urban skiff]

Tanking doesn't exist btw.

Never respec a martial unless you can get back up to level 5 for extra attack. It's tied to your class, not base level.

[fierce elm]

Yeah noticed that when I was playing around with astarion going rogue and some ranger

[urban skiff]

Going eagle barbarian lets you jump from the top rope and wrestle slam people below you

[fierce elm]

Much easier going just flat out ranger for the 2nd attack

[urban skiff]

I'm a huge fan of monk barbarian tbh

Be naked fight naked.

24 strength 16 dex 21 con and all stupid

[fierce elm]

Love the barb interactions though

roar at everything

[urban skiff]

Build optimizers sleep on the entertainment value of having specific subclasses for role play and dialogue

My gale origin play through he's paladin 2, necromancer 10

[sterile moth]

Is weapon master available? An old favorite build was 12-4-4 cleric/fighter/WM in neverwinter nights or wizard weapon master

[idle falcon]

is fury PvP going to be the same talent build

[fierce elm]

Let me ask the future me

[idle falcon]

ok ill wait

[urban skiff]

No, 5e is different and also the level cap is 12

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/crystal-ball-crowley-david-tennant-good-omens-psychic-gif-3436909361193405344

[urban skiff]

No, we're mostly going to ignore the aoe cooldown talents or only see them as procs that increase damage of our main rotation.

[idle falcon]

makes sense

[sterile moth]

@urban skiff omg 12

[urban skiff]

12 is fine

5e gets stupid above level 13

Completely impossible to balance

[urban skiff]

why is this arms warrior using ravager?

is it the new bigbrain play?

[slow solstice]

no pve moment

is he colo?

@urban skiff

[urban skiff]

I have no idea

rogue asked to solo him because it was 1v2

I want to try 3v3 with my wife. What goes well with disc and enh?

Feral?

what

[fierce elm]

Warr

whatchu mean lmao

Of course its warrior

[urban skiff]

ok but counterpoint

warrior mains are whiny and know they're better than me

I need someone who needs me more than i need them

[fierce elm]

also dont understand your screenshot lmao

Enhance/Rogue is also a thing

[urban skiff]

How is touch of death 3m?

I can never drop below 40% hp or what?

[fierce elm]

it isnt

its just a tooltip thing

[sour crag]

Why is it that when I get a Draw in SS I mostly get 0 ratings, but sometimes I get a tiny bit of rating still?

[urban skiff]

even in details?

[fierce elm]

yeah

Unless it was a brewmaster monk

[fierce elm]

MMR differences with those you match up with

[urban skiff]

You get rating when there's a difference between your current rating and your MMR

your MMR is banked potential rating that you cash out on through wins, and losses reduce it

[fierce elm]

But yes, the tooltip of ToD is usually bugged like a mofo

[urban skiff]

Game tries to bring your MMR and CR together, your job is to spread them apart by getting MMR up

[fierce elm]

Because its based on the monks HP iirc

but it can only be usable when you drop below 15% or something

So if he is max HP it can deal that amount of damage

but its not common

[urban skiff]

Well that skirmish sucked ass

I completely tunnelvisioned the dh and then in 3 seconds I was 100->0'd

are all the casuals out at the moment? Why am i even struggling in skirmish to begin with

[fierce elm]

Only true degens are playing rn

[urban skiff]

man i want to play bg3 so much

i have become the degen

[sand sundial]

unironically warr

[hot solstice]

Bm or rogue

[urban skiff]

tbh bm doesn't sound too cancer

kind of weird

can it do ms effect?

@fierce elm heads up, new Nvidia drivers and this set enables dlss4 on 40s series cards. People report around 10% increase to dlss performance at zero costs

Also dlss4 framegen performance looks better than quality in 3.5

[fierce elm]

I got a 30 card

[urban skiff]

30s also benefit

[fierce elm]

wtf

[urban skiff]

But less

Check it out

[fierce elm]

Also idk what game I am playing that has DLSS tbh

[urban skiff]

I run bg3 in dldsr with performance and shirting solid 144 fps

[fierce elm]

Like BG3 is the only game probably

but I dont have DLSS enabled

[urban skiff]

Bg3 has dlss and you don't feel latency

[fierce elm]

and it feels completely fine without any issues so far

[urban skiff]

tbh i'm also addicted to RTX video when watching anime

upscaling any random youtube video from 1080p to 1440p is fun

[urban skiff]

cyberpunk 2077 is big too

[fierce elm]

Yeah I am bound to replay that soon

Gotta say, not knowing what choice is durge and what isnt

makes this more funny

lmao

Durge choices combined with barb and intimidation

its prett fucking hilarious

Shadowbae is starting to hate me

Considering swapping her to someone who likes my dumb decisions

[urban skiff]

She can still come around.

[fierce elm]

She fucking hates me

Did romance Gale a bit before he told me to use magic

Astarion is a babe

[urban skiff]

You can get dicked down by Halsin

If that's your thing

[fierce elm]

I feel like Halsin is too much of a good guy

Gale seems neutral, Astarion is bad, I need another bad guy

Maybe Karlach?

[urban skiff]

Minthara is surprisingly wholesome as a romance option

[fierce elm]

She looks like she doesnt give a fuck

Yeah I threw her off a ledge so that aint happening

[urban skiff]

Karlach is like a puppy dog made of muscle and fire

[sour crag]

Remind me, does Conquest reset every season, or do you keep them?

[fierce elm]

it resets

[urban skiff]

Yes. Anything that gives you purple pvp gear is always reset and cannot be pooled

[sour crag]

What would you recommend to sink it with?

[fierce elm]

Transmog

or buy gear for gold

[urban skiff]

Do you need gold? People used to buy shields and sell them for gold

[dense herald]

is hunter looking good nexst patch

wanted to try it again

[fierce elm]

If you have any other 80s you can buy the boxes, send over for transmog there as well

Let me ask my fuckin fortune ball

[urban skiff]

Depends on your transmog

[fierce elm]

Hunter has been receiving a ton of changes

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/crystal-ball-gif-25122500

[fierce elm]

But I doubt anyone here has tried out hunter

[sour crag]

Dont you usually get the mogs via marks of honor?

[urban skiff]

Consult.. THE CONSULTANTS

[fierce elm]

or knows about hunter changes

[fierce elm]

Usually takes an expansion for those to release

[urban skiff]

Idk why my boss didn't think it was funny when i shouted that through the office

[fierce elm]

So this seasons marks of honor will only be purchaseable next expansion

meaning you basically get it early

thats all

[dense herald]

doesnt artji play survival hunter and stay in this pvp channel

[fierce elm]

Artji doesn't know shit about PTR

All he does is react to patch notes with either "WE ARE SO BACK" or "THIS SPEC IS DEAD"

lmao

[sour crag]

Right, so if one is thinking long-term: Mass buy shields to vendor for gold, spend marks of honor for mogs in the next expansion? That is if you already got a surplus of marks anyway

[rancid granite]

spend shit yes

[fierce elm]

Sure

[rancid granite]

go to the vendor and spend it

[delicate sandal]

When is 11.1 dropping?

[fierce elm]

more than 1 day less than 100 days

[delicate sandal]

Fucker

[fierce elm]

: )

[sour crag]

Late or mid february, by the looks of things

[fierce elm]

So more than 1 day and less than 100 days

[spice hornet]

End of Feb-ish

[sour crag]

Afro hit it spot on, right there.

[spice hornet]

I really hate doing glad wins it’s so boring man

[sour crag]

winning is so boring

[fierce elm]

Questions about how something is looking in next patch = "Let me ask my fortune ball"
Questions about release dates = "More than x days less than x days"

[spice hornet]

The games are ultra sweaty

[rancid granite]

I'm going back arms for the season regardless if good or bad 💪

don't need no fortune ball

[spice hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-bravo-muscles-pec-bounce-pecs-biceps-gif-17958622974887416284

[urban skiff]

dw?

[green wharf]

had to

Deathbringer is meme

[fierce elm]

Uhm excuse me can we keep this warrior pvp relevant

[urban skiff]

Wdym? That's clearly a frost warrior spec

Smf coldthane

[green wharf]

Well it does play better than warrior

thats for sure

[verbal tangle]

[green wharf]

went some 2s with a healer yesterday

i was 7-3

lost one to a fucking evoker, dumb ass class

and exploded an arms warrior

[sterile moth]

2s around 2k mmr is wayyyyy sweatier than it should be. Of course when you watch Mag play he’s at 2500 grinding 2 point wins against kids@2100

[green wharf]

is good cause is insta q

[sterile moth]

It’s nice for sure

[fierce elm]

2s has always been a sweaty as fuck bracket

[green wharf]

its worse cause when you kill the dps

the healer keep stalling time

like what you think you gonna do you fuck

just quit

[fickle forge]

@fierce elm Bro there's beat saber party!

[slow solstice]

hi

[fickle forge]

Go watch the stream instead of texting

[slow solstice]

you should visit #fury more

i am

[fickle forge]

No

[slow solstice]

why not

😦

[fickle forge]

Cause I don't play fury

[slow solstice]

#fury is fun

[fickle forge]

And I don't engage in the PvE channels

Shit's not healthy

[slow solstice]

why not

[fickle forge]

Shit's not healthy

[slow solstice]

why not

[fierce elm]

Karg in voice instead of queueing solo shuffle

[fickle forge]

Fuck shuffle

I'm a beat saber enthusiast now

[slow solstice]

real

real

real

@fierce elm join

[fickle forge]

By is the beat saber host SILENT though

[fierce elm]

no lmao

[fickle forge]

Yeah I got bored as well

Heard Ed Sheeran and I dipped

[slow solstice]

pretty sure no mic atm

locked in

[fierce elm]

Beat saber playthrough

[slow solstice]

yarp

[sick otter]

I thought you couldn't miss attacks in PVP these days....can you?

[wheat jay]

autoattacks can

[fickle forge]

Only auto attacks

[sick otter]

ah ok ty

[green wharf]

imagine need a talent for this shit

[sand sundial]

there are like 10 talents

that should be baseline

[hot solstice]

if I am not mistaken its for left hand autoattacks to be specific

[sharp meteor]

i mean lotta the talents just diff flavors of 1% dmg right

idk what the point of most of the new talent trees werre except catering to boomers pretending they're making a build

[true tiger]

had hardest shuffle lobby

Rdudu hpriest mage DH ret

https://tenor.com/view/freak-tweak-tweaker-tweaking-freak-out-gif-16108345590627731463

[green wharf]

thats why i dont shuffle anymore

it only takes one evoker to make me like that

[true tiger]

was in roots

entire game

somehow enemy rdudu managed to 1 to 100% in 1 sec like

5 min into round

it feels like warriros slow doesnot work

[urban skiff]

Anyone know where I can find an omnibar that's already set up?

[true tiger]

u need WA for that

from someone

who alr set it up

[rancid granite]

skillcapped addon

[rancid granite]

its called roleplaying!

[stark agate]

Finding up to date information on what's good and high level gameplay in Wow is hard compared to other games

especially in pvp

[urban skiff]

fuck no

that shit is so fucking ugly and messes up my UI

[fickle forge]

Did you enjoy the free win?

[urban skiff]

wdym? omnibar has an import function

[true tiger]

idk i did shit

never did that bad in my entire career

it seemed like i was not in game

[fickle forge]

Oh

[true tiger]

was always in roots or cc

[fickle forge]

That's unfort man

It's a pretty good warr lobby

Prob just unlocky

[true tiger]

it was either rdudu roots or mage freezes

or DH ret fully ccing me

[wheat jay]

Every dh lobby is 4-2 lobby for everyone but dh

[true tiger]

XD it was when a haters find u and use all their abilities on u

maybe i did bad or idk .it felt like i couldnot move at all

and somehow at the verge of winning

rdudu in enemy team managed to top ret in 1 sec

for some reason while my hpriest was struggling

[wheat jay]

That could be lay on hands

From ret

[fickle forge]

Yeah thing is, you got the better comps as warr in that lobby

DH is weak and mage+ret isn't really a thing

[fierce elm]

Rdruid ass

DH ass

Ret mid

[fickle forge]

Plus you get the freedom of swapping Rdruid and winning the lobby

[sterile moth]

How often do you guys swap heals in shuffle? I feel like under utilizing that

[fierce elm]

A lot

[sterile moth]

Normally only do when the healer is clearly inexperienced

[sharp meteor]

depends on positioning and cd usage

[torn sigil]

Pala monk druid can all get easily hardswapped and die in a stun

[sharp meteor]

healers often good swaps

esp rdruid walking up

[sterile moth]

Figured out real quick when I rolled a healer…switching to me was really annoying

[spice hornet]

@sharp meteor do you play slayer fury at all anymore or just full send MY

MT^

If you’re even queueing 3s at this point anymore

[sharp meteor]

too dumb and bad for title

[spice hornet]

I’m finishing wins but MT just feels a lot better in most cases but not sure barely play

[sharp meteor]

maybe some more turby or thunder

[sharp meteor]

um i won way more with mt but should be playin slayer more

for me it was kind of comfort rather than ideal build

[spice hornet]

Yeah the rotation feels smoother as slayer

[sharp meteor]

most recent games were all frost hpal fury so we'd just bang every remorse stun right

and thane was better for that

i tried slayer more and spam lost

[sharp meteor]

ye i suppose

i like big mt hits

bonk chop bonk

[fickle forge]

If it's Rdruid or pres

And they push in for CC

[sand sundial]

blitz has no rewards past 2400 right?

besides title?

whats the cutaway on that anyway

[sharp meteor]

Temporary strategist title at 25 wins above elite then r1, ye

But 2400 decent stoppin point

[ebon shale]

any one have a really good charge macro?
I need one where like I charge / Hamstring / one shot someone without burning globals

[sterile moth]

Could use a vast sequence macro but it wouldn’t be optimal every time

[rancid granite]

#showtooltip Charge
/cast [@Mouseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring

[exotic forge]

^

[inner sigil]

question, how do u defeat a enh shaman as warr again? stun or fear if they trinket stun or disarm right>

[hot solstice]

just shut their ascendance and win

[inner sigil]

so fear

[hot solstice]

stun fear disarm

[inner sigil]

into stun

ot stun gear dis

[hot solstice]

can even parry

[inner sigil]

or

i mean fury

ion fw arms rn

i want to

I LOVE arms

js ass in arenas atm

[hot solstice]

I mean ur big defensive

u survive his ascendance u win (if its ascendance build)

if its elemental enha - u try to fear his wall

anyway dueling is meme

[inner sigil]

ik

ele is way harder to beat

im sure

[hot solstice]

same as 2s with voidveawer disc priests

[sand sundial]

i like spear vs ele

[inner sigil]

same.

[floral widget]

make any diference up these pvp gear?

i mean the ap champion 1/8 to 8/8

[torn sigil]

no[

[floral widget]

Shit

I end up chargin some ones and now cant see the best stats

[silk plover]

as arms what is better for pvp in general, slayer or colossus?

am new getting back into it afterl ike 5 years

getting my ass kicked in open world trying to farm bloody tokens right now

[inner sigil]

is there a spawks of war addon so i can track the waxy lump bs

[green wharf]

slayer

[green wharf]

if you are doing world stuff, switch to fury or prot

arms is free frag

[urban skiff]

soullscape is pretty cool tbh

[urban skiff]

on my shaman i stagger ascendance and doom winds to make you waste disarm

[spice hornet]

Wait people are still playing arms in 2025?

[fierce elm]

I might have played BG3 all night

I found out what the iron bottle did

Beat the fuck out of a ton of people