2v2 and 3v3 ratings aren't even compatible. And nobody complains that people are using rbg ratings comparably.
It just feels like people trying to apply the law of jante against people who don't think they're suddenly rank1 players for getting 3k rating in the casual mode
#pvp
urban skiff
Ratings is a reward track, not a measure of skill, and mmr is for matchmaking and determining how quickly you progress in the rewards track.
lavish quest
As far as blizzard design is concerned, they're comparable enough/as much as they can be
Of course they'll never be a 1 to 1
I don't think they're giving elite out for pet battles
Wonder why
fierce elm
how else do you measure your skill?
Transmog
rancid granite
transmog and whoever has the biggest bonk
neat flower
slayer vs mountain thane... go
fierce elm
Thats a pretty interesting way to ask a question
deft ridge
lol
deft ridge
does everyone not have their thesis prepared?
fierce elm
The real answer is either
neat flower
i didnt think a group of big strong front line warriors would be too concerned on how a question is asked
deft ridge
"Hey guys I was wondering if Slayer or Thane is better"
could be girls in here, how dare you
rancid granite
be sure to say thank you too
neat flower
But the answer is: either
thats an interesting way to answer a question
rancid granite
"make the decision for me" is an interesting way to ask a question too
rancid granite
good movies lol
wheat jay
fair enough
rancid granite
I still see it as slayer if you need the mobility from charge/leap cdr
neat flower
Doomer put me onto thane as an all the time build and I've been liking it
yeah i seem to lean more towards thane for most scenarios. but i still see warrs run slayer into what i would run thane into so its raises the question
lavish quest
I used to assume slayer would be better into ranged heavy lobbies. But I'm feeling success with thane
rancid granite
fully stacked slayer bladestorms are as fun as demolish though....
lavish quest
Big rampages with random thunderblasts along the way gives chunks alone the way
Thane uses spear, which I enjoy forcing some things to stay in place
Laughing at warlocks who port right after I spear them so they get ported back
deft ridge
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/S_0Qz11be8Q
rofl
fickle forge
2v2 and 3v3 ratings aren't even compatible. And nobody complains that people are...
In all honesty, it was the same with RBG. Nobody picked up a 2.4k xp RBG player if they were sitting on 1800 xp in 3s
urban skiff
In all honesty, it was the same with RBG. Nobody picked up a 2.4k xp RBG player ...
It was the same in olden days. People didn't give a crap what rating you had in 2s, only 3s mattered.
slender wedge
anyone know how prices of bloodstones are in 2nd season?
urban skiff
anyone know how prices of bloodstones are in 2nd season?
Don't bother unless you can afford to take a lot of gold out of your bags for a very long time
urban skiff
I'm holding around 800k worth of shards and i'm prepared to wait until s3 if i have to, to turn profit
Sure it will spike. But you have to be able to move it too, before the price drops like a rock because everyone else are doing the same thing
fickle forge
It was the same in olden days. People didn't give a crap what rating you had in ...
Not really true, 2s and 3s are at least both arena
Of course you'd never take the 2.6k 2s Rdruid seriously for 3s if he was low xp
But both are similar format at least
urban skiff
Not really true, 2s and 3s are at least both arena
That's not how it used to be perceived. During tbc and wrath it was all the same handful of specs in 2s across the full 100 spot ladder.
It les the 2s being viewed as a joke bracket.
I don't think 2s was really accepted until they started adding shuffle. Then shuffle was the black sheep/joke mode. Right up until they added blitz.
A bit of a history lesson. I can't remember what was popular in cata. I remember mop was when 2s started maybe taking shape.
fickle forge
That's not how it used to be perceived. During tbc and wrath it was all the same...
If we go by like modern WoW era, so say Legion and forward, then 2s and 3s were at least both respected
Even if 3s was seen as the real bracket
urban skiff
True, i think maybe the removal of 5s, the removal of arena teams, and addition of rbgs is when 2s became more accepted as a genuine arena experience. Only the old guard stuck to calling it the easy bracket.
But i can't for the life of me remember when they made those changes.
fickle forge
It's definitely a fuck around bracket
I'd want a fuck around arena bracket too though
boreal veldt
Also wtf was that rug pull of buffs yesterday on the ptr
blizz really said JK and reverted em all lmao
urban skiff
I'd want a fuck around arena bracket too though
same tbh
give us rated skirmish and if they want to bring back 5v5, it has to be with comp rules like 1 heal 2 ranged 2 melee
fickle forge
blizz really said JK and reverted em all lmao
I'm imagining they're cooking up different buffs instead
urban skiff
and make it a solo queue thing
urban skiff
blizz really said JK and reverted em all lmao
they were to compensate for something else that they rolled back, no?
fickle forge
It'd be crazy to buff fury in PvP though
urban skiff
tbh, lates round of changes buffed enh
and simplified the elementalist build a lot
and reduced the UHDK feel of having to start up your jet engines before takeoff
Soon my Stormstrike spam build will be replaced by the lava lash spam build
fickle forge
I'm thinking I'll stick to storm for now for enh
lavish quest
<@&257983573498265600>
boreal veldt
mods halp
knotty atlas
lavish quest
Mods, mod me
knotty atlas
Done.
lavish quest
Hell yeah, lezzzz gooooo
boreal veldt
he has been chosen
fierce elm
<:susge:1006301353372561549>
Kargish bullies me
fierce elm
😦
knotty atlas
@fickle forge , do i need to smack you in a duel again?
Stop bulling people, it's not nice.
wheat jay
african turtle cleave when?
urban skiff
I'm thinking I'll stick to storm for now for enh
the build will be gone in a moment
You should enjoy it while it lasts
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> , do i need to smack you in a duel again?
What's good brother
fickle forge
the build will be gone in a moment
Nah I have faith for now man
Ascend is the fun build as well
urban skiff
True
but ascendance with totemic is just chef's kiss
and that's what they're breaking
I can't imagine playing enh without ascendance tbh
in s2 we're going to be 1-shotting groups of people with crash lightning. What you do outside those big hits won't matter I'm betting
knotty atlas
What's good brother
fickle forge
<a:wave:1042193720780541972>
I heard you want elite mog this season
urban skiff
We're getting Doom Winds procs with tier though
that'll work with all the specs tbh
but speccing into crash lightning becomes mandatory
knotty atlas
I heard you want elite mog this season
yES, CARRY ME
true tiger
do you guys play thane in solo shuffle aswell?
fickle forge
yES, CARRY ME
@wheat jay We gotta lock in
knotty atlas
<@291636646225379328> We gotta lock in
I've come to realise that PvP'ers are all just words.
fickle forge
but speccing into crash lightning becomes mandatory
I'm already using it
fickle forge
I've come to realise that PvP'ers are all just words.
We are
I Q once every blood moon
fickle forge
We only Q'd because you wanted to prove a point to your guildie
fierce elm
I've come to realise that PvP'ers are all just words.
yeah they suck amirite
You should ban anyone who has ever typed here
Not me though I am pure
boreal veldt
I've come to realise that PvP'ers are all just words.
rank 1 yappers
not afro though
afro never caught yappin
wheat jay
afro be rogueing tho
lavish quest
Afro doesn't know anything to yap about
rancid granite
Not me though I am pure
captain america paladin fanboy getting booted first
fierce elm
wtf hell no
boreal veldt
lavish quest
Wait, you're supposed to get dispelled?
true tiger
ive heard its nice
it wasnot at 1.6k or smthn
it was at 2.5k mmr shuffle
nvm went in blitz and had evo mw in my team and we lost flag game
also flag side was at our advantage
silk plover
is arms worth playing for a returning player? used to really enjoy arms in legion
or is fury just that much better in arenas
chilly pivot
thinking of making a feral druid for alt, how is it compair to warrior, its hard to play and its fun/good?
sand sundial
is arms worth playing for a returning player? used to really enjoy arms in legio...
It's not it's best version atm, but it works and does what it does
I personally really dislike it due to its flow and feel but people make it work
true tiger
is arms worth playing for a returning player? used to really enjoy arms in legio...
tbh ive seen good arms
sand sundial
Imo thane fury feels the best atm, especially in cleave lobbies and generally BGs
silk plover
i gotta level up first anyway
i only ever got into the 1900s so its not like im elite
sand sundial
All boils down to what you wanna reach/do with your char
true tiger
i gotta level up first anyway
gonna take 1 day max
wraith sluice
Can u guys give advice for some good Source of tactics for Blitz? Videos or Written guides ?
wraith sluice
Mostly what classes are best for Spezific Things like def a base or off/def Team... what are the Important objektives ... in the New lore bg ... go for 2 Carts or everytime 1 cart +Flag ... stuff like this so that i can improve on General understanding of whats best to do
true tiger
DH rogue ret evo mw
are best mostly
in flag games if u have evo or mw
ur winchance increases
on base games rogue dh and rets are rly good
boreal veldt
Can u guys give advice for some good Source of tactics for Blitz? Videos or Writ...
warrior is usually in the team fights, spin cap point, kill efc, try to stay with healer
wraith sluice
So in fact that we are on a warr disc ... what should be my Main Goal as warr in blitz ... devided by kind of bg ... Flag, base, Carts
wraith sluice
warrior is usually in the team fights, spin cap point, kill efc, try to stay wit...
Haha right at the moment i send the question
boreal veldt
😉
true tiger
base games i usually spin on flag so nobody caps it.and flag games im always targeting efc and tryna kill him asap
wraith sluice
Thank u 🤣 👍
true tiger
mostly warriors are dmg dealers and their mission is to get flag back.kill people fast.zug zug
boreal veldt
the orb map is the only outlier, everyone should spam grab orbs and warrior is great with their mobility
hotomogu?* w/e it's called
true tiger
ye in orb maps i always take double jump pvp talent
that shit is nuts
u can jump on edge from midle
and jump on orb
2 sec and from midle ur on orb
wraith sluice
hotomogu?* w/e it's called
So i guess double jump Talent is mandatory in that bg and the Pick orb go def stance and back to middle ?
true tiger
also take double jump in flag games too its rly nice to caqtch up efc
if he runs away
boreal veldt
nothing is mandatory i'd argue but definitely more mobility more better
wraith sluice
also take double jump in flag games too its rly nice to caqtch up efc
Good idea never thought about it
true tiger
and games where its mostly TF and u need to stay on point take im taking battle trance pvp talent instead of double jump
wraith sluice
Okok ... will try it in my next games maybe i can break out of the 1,8k lobbys
true tiger
some games.even i dont even know what to do bcs my team feels like NPCs
so i just run around and kill people at least to have fun 🤣
but ye mostly play as much as possible and ull get how tactics works
boreal veldt
main reason i love blitz is at least the games are quick, win or lose
true tiger
evey game is different
i love AB games bcs mostly my job is to stay BS with healer and zug zug
wheat jay
Homie just played hpala for the first time, got duelist in 78 games of shuffle, said healing is easy
78 rounds*
vapid tartan
still harder than warr 
wheat jay
78 rounds for first time hpal is too much
Maybe so
But man's just chilling, enjoying life, healing is easy i guess
true tiger
maybe he watched crusaders videos before he went in games
stark agate
Is Fury/DH/x a good comp?
wheat jay
If you replace dh with anything else then yes
stark agate
cooooool
fallen estuary
me when im unbanned and going apeshit in lobbies again causing terror across the globe
rancid granite
^ dabdaddy moments before getting banned again
fallen estuary
i got banned for arguing about diet coke in elwynn
hot solstice
Here u get banned for arguing about no sugar monster
rancid granite
how many f-bombs and slurs did you say tho
also you should get banned for arguing about diet coke there is no winner in that conversation
😂
inner sigil
against casters is it viable to use spear when using slayer
verbal tangle
how many f-bombs and slurs did you say tho
Bro I got away with having Floydianslip the Orc Warrior in TBC Classic, you can get away with murder
fallen estuary
that’s a dumb reason to ban
IKR LMAO i havent said anything bad this whole season but when i talk shit to some dh about diet coke the NEXT DAY im on a 2 week vaycay
rancid granite
IKR LMAO i havent said anything bad this whole season but when i talk shit to so...
ask them for logs of what you said and report back here
green wharf
if you use to much f and r words
you get automated ban
start with warnings, mutes and ban if you are doing too much
when i got DCed and went to mmr hell on my war, i was getting matched with quitters all the time
so i said a lot of fucks in the chat when people complained
then i got a warning
first time ever ingame
i only got bans in the foruns
sharp meteor
ask them for logs of what you said and report back here
imma be real if u ask for logs and said anything sus and it gets looked at they just extendo the ban
sharp meteor
i mean like this alone is sort of
yes officer i knew i was speeding
like gg
if u get banned for verbal unless u know for a fact ur clean then just sit it out
green wharf
yes officer i knew i was speeding
its more like, i was speeding last week officer, and the day before
but not today
the officer will look at you like this
green wharf
man DK is so more smooth than warriors
having silence on hand for 4 secs is so good
our punch should work like that
at elast a pvp talent, you punch the bitch in the guts, silenced cause they dont have air
stark agate
IKR LMAO i havent said anything bad this whole season but when i talk shit to so...
Wait what was the DHs name. I have a dh on my friend list who just sits in Elwynn and pvps
green wharf
in a 1v1 scenario does enh sham vs fury warr sham wins?
if you are a bad fury i guess
sharp meteor
why u tryna 1v1
inner sigil
if you are a bad fury i guess
Why would one be a bad dfury tho
green wharf
if you are losing to a shamy
inner sigil
Enh has hella burst and fury has negative defensive
green wharf
thats no good
green wharf
you should be able to kill the shaman before he kills you
kind sentinel
disarm is your friend
kind sentinel
They cant blast you with ascendance stormstrike during it
green wharf
and disarm decrease their damage overall on you
inner sigil
Is it cs gear and I didn’t know disarm did shit?
Interesting
Slayer or mountain tho
Still confused abt that
inner sigil
I’m 629 ilvl fighting a max gear I think it matters
green wharf
fill with blood token gear until you get conquest
green wharf
I’m 629 ilvl fighting a max gear I think it matters
it doesnt
green wharf
you rly need the pvp gear
inner sigil
No tier set no enchants
green wharf
it has the verstality you need
green wharf
probably
chilly pivot
Any warrior here playing feral like an alt? How hard is it compair to warrior
lavish quest
IKR LMAO i havent said anything bad this whole season but when i talk shit to so...
It's because you prot pvp
robust lark
Hey All, Maybe a stupid question but i keep coming across fellow Arms Warriors that are getting massive Rend DOT vs mine what am i doing wrong?
green wharf
Hey All, Maybe a stupid question but i keep coming across fellow Arms Warriors t...
he prob is playing colossus
fickle forge
Hey All, Maybe a stupid question but i keep coming across fellow Arms Warriors t...
Not pressing Clap most likely
lavish quest
Not applying rends
robust lark
he prob is playing colossus
Ahh ok this makes sense, i thought i was doing something wrong !! Told you it was a stupid question thank you
sterile moth
Morning, what’s the good word?
rancid granite
buoyant chasm
Hi guys, whats better for fury pvp? Crafted weapon or 2x gladiators? Anyone has a guide/link to the bis items?
rancid granite
Hi guys, whats better for fury pvp? Crafted weapon or 2x gladiators? Anyone has ...
green wharf
Hi guys, whats better for fury pvp? Crafted weapon or 2x gladiators? Anyone has ...
there is info for that in the pinned messages
fierce elm
yeah old ass pin
urban skiff
if you are losing to a shamy
enh is one of the best duel classes in the game. I'll win 101 out of 100 duels vs an equal skilled fury
green wharf
enh is one of the best duel classes in the game. I'll win 101 out of 100 duels ...
i will 100 out of 100 against enh shamans
i only get my ass handed by elemental in some cases
fickle forge
rancid granite
innit supposed to go down close to next season??
maybe people waiting on official date
fickle forge
Yeah, people are definitely waiting on the 2 weeks notice
fierce elm
Kargish is going for r1 lmao
lavish quest
Can he beat out the 3 other guys playing arms?
fierce elm
He only needs to hit 1800
fickle forge
I'm expecting I can beat up until roughly top 9
But I ain't beating Devilscandy, Rønja or Tay
stark agate
Hey All, Maybe a stupid question but i keep coming across fellow Arms Warriors t...
Could also be pet damage
urban skiff
lmao
If you queue up once and win in 3v3 as a vengeance dh you're in the top100
Only brewmaster is in a worse spot and top1 brm has 500 more rating than top1 vengaboy
How would you even play brm in 3v3 to begin with?
fierce elm
You play the annoying way
by being a CC/displacement bot
and dealing some damage
Locking in a tank pretty much allows any healer on your team to ignore you
urban skiff
So brewmaster would queue up with someone who only needs additional cc to 2v3 the other team?
fierce elm
basically yea
Thats pretty much how every tank works
Prot warr gives some damage and burst at least
urban skiff
Idk, I think prot brings the dam but yeah
fierce elm
but is at the end mostly an annoying root bot
urban skiff
tbh bore them to death and shut down every burst attempt with ease
fickle forge
We called that period BFA
fickle forge
Yeah it was a terrible time
slender wedge
yo can you save up 15k honor into s2?
urban skiff
yo can you save up 15k honor into s2?
yes
slender wedge
so 100% gotta do that?
urban skiff
meh
urban skiff
From patch until season start you'll have a week or two
slender wedge
ah right
urban skiff
You just need honor before then, but it doesn't take 15k
fickle forge
so 100% gotta do that?
Yes
slender wedge
alright
fickle forge
You're replacing all gear with honor gear immediately
fierce elm
Stockpiling 15k honor gives you gear and an easier time to get sockets for season start
urban skiff
You can calculate how much the set you want costs, and you can also math out how much you'll get from collecting your weekly conquest points the first week
So it's probably closer to 10k
slender wedge
okok cool
fickle forge
We're pretty much just doing Mag's early season gearing like we did this season
urban skiff
Either do the math or collect as much honor as you can on all your altgs
so you can buy sockets immediately if you want
fickle forge
There'll be no difference
urban skiff
(for 1 character, maybe 2)
@fierce elm @fickle forge quick, off the top of your heads and without looking anything up before answering
how do you stop a vengeance DH from bursting?
slender wedge
but do u socket honor gear even
urban skiff
but do u socket honor gear even
I might this time, i have more than enough bloodstones
slender wedge
fair :p
think imma play it more casual
if i can decide what to 'main'
currently picking up 1800s mogs for most my alts 😛
urban skiff
My plan is to buy a bloody token hat and turn it into a set piece really early, so I can socket that with the good gem
slender wedge
sounds good
urban skiff
Then when we get our freebie craft tokens I*m crafting neck + 2 rings and that's first 7 sockets
fickle forge
how do you stop a vengeance DH from bursting?
By using your burst
Burst of laughter that is
fierce elm
<@144859308557860864> <@278157108791476224> quick, off the top of your heads and...
You ignore it
urban skiff
By using your burst
Burst of laughter that is
Do you cc on his bad breath attack?
fierce elm
bro I have never faced one lmao
slender wedge
Then when we get our freebie craft tokens I*m crafting neck + 2 rings and that's...
sounds like a decent plan for most chars tbh
fierce elm
I just ignore it
urban skiff
I just ignore it
I think i've found secret tech
fickle forge
Do you cc on his bad breath attack?
I type /dance while he's channeling and then collect my elo
fierce elm
Its how I treat every tank matchup except for Prot
where I disarm here and there
if I was ret I fully ignore, if assa I just dot it up and walk away
urban skiff
sounds like a decent plan for most chars tbh
my method doesn't work for everything, it might not be optimal. I'm ok with waiting a short while to get weapons instead of crafting on day1
slender wedge
yeah but overall if ur not rushing min max type stuff
getting gems in place is kinda chill
guess it depends if a class benefits hugely from something else
urban skiff
actuallly I think it's conq hat -> craft 3 jewelry pieces -> wait out freebie weapons -> use bloody tokens on other armor slots. There's always at least two pieces that has a stat you can only craft your way to if you're a mono-stat class
urban skiff
I type /dance while he's channeling and then collect my elo
So you ignore vengy because the damage is low?
what if damage was high?
fierce elm
You are buying the piece that has the tier stats you want probably
Then grab the 1600 catalyst and catalyst a bloody token item most likely
fickle forge
what if damage was high?
It will not be
fierce elm
depending on how desirable 2 set is
fickle forge
It's a tank
urban skiff
Then grab the 1600 catalyst and catalyst a bloody token item most likely
catalyst on bloody token is secret tech tbh
fierce elm
Seeing as you dont get a free tier piece from 1600 anymore
urban skiff
try suggesting that on reddit and people lose their minds over the 3 ilvls difference
fickle forge
The instantanous moment a tank is good in PvP, Blizzard nukes it overnight
urban skiff
The instantanous moment a tank is good in PvP, Blizzard nukes it overnight
they're leaving prot alone
fickle forge
they're leaving prot alone
Prot isn't really played though
There was that one second where african turtle cleave was played
urban skiff
do we have news about catalyst charge cadence?
urban skiff
Prot isn't really played though
vengaboy is played even less.
You could deal a billion dps and people probably wouldn't catch on until you hit the streamers who record everything
fickle forge
People caught onto blood DK
sharp meteor
Prot is great rn
urban skiff
I think there's no shortage of people who want to make blood dk work so when stars align and it gets somemthing really good they're going to discover it.
sharp meteor
Best it been in years
urban skiff
Best it been in years
101% this
Have to go back to WoD to get a better prot playstyle, iirc
sharp meteor
Prot isn't really played though
Should be it's sick
fickle forge
Nah
sharp meteor
I need a surv
fickle forge
Tanks should be removed from arena
sharp meteor
And mw
urban skiff
I don't think vengeance has the same community looking to make it work. Vengeance and havoc are so close they're just going to play havoc
urban skiff
Tanks should be removed from arena
tank specs should be made pure dps or pure healers in arenas via modifiers
urban skiff
Veng is unplayable
what makes it unplayable? Just low damage or is it because they telegraph an otherwise decent burst?
I'm just dicking around and not at all serious about making it work
fickle forge
tank specs should be made pure dps or pure healers in arenas via modifiers
But then you may as well just play your class' dps spec
urban skiff
But then you may as well just play your class' dps spec
Tell that to rogues, warlocks, mages?
fickle forge
Their specs differ
urban skiff
You can make tanks differ too
fickle forge
What's the difference between prot pala and ret
urban skiff
it's a matter of wanting it
fickle forge
Literally 0
fickle forge
You can make tanks differ too
Not without changing their class design
And tanks are designed to tank mobs that tunnel you
fickle forge
How so
urban skiff
prot puts up a lot of debuffs and buffs to do big dam
fickle forge
So like arms
urban skiff
Instead of just hitting one macro and praying for a big MS crit
wheat jay
you have two
buttons
for dmg
demo shout
avatar
that's not a lot
everything else is passive you get from your rotation
sharp meteor
Prot most fun warr spec
wheat jay
not denying that lol
urban skiff
Prot most fun warr spec
this
You can claim arms and prot are too similar, but if that was the case why am I having fun as prot but not as arms?
fickle forge
Who knows man
sharp meteor
I wish I could have played it this season I'm not liking fury outside bgs
fickle forge
Maybe you like never dying
urban skiff
Maybe you like never dying
I do dark souls SL1 / elden ring RL1 runs
sharp meteor
He die a lot ig?
urban skiff
Something being unfavourable is more fun for me
fickle forge
Yeah, so that's where it lies for you
fickle forge
It doesn't change tanks should be left out of arena
Let them Q blitz
I've never seen an enjoyable tank meta, ever
fickle forge
It wasn't BFA guardian druid nor SL prot pala
sharp meteor
Nobody likes playing into good comps
fickle forge
Nah that ain't the same bro
fickle forge
When a tank is meta, literally nothing dies
urban skiff
PROT WARRIOR WITH BODYGUARD + DEATHWISH MAX STACK FURY
fickle forge
Like completely invulnerable
urban skiff
you'll have a buddy to sit roots together with
sharp meteor
Ye that's good into o hysical
fierce elm
Prot Pala 2s was pretty fun ngl
wheat jay
Something being unfavourable is more fun for me
how is elden unfavourable?
sharp meteor
I need fury or hunterbforbprot
wheat jay
its just learning a script lol
sharp meteor
Maybe havoc
urban skiff
friendship is overpowered
fierce elm
Every game is just learning a script fuck you mean lmao
fickle forge
Prot Pala 2s was pretty fun ngl
Stop
wheat jay
Every game is just learning a script fuck you mean lmao
there's a difference between pvp games, games like devil may cry where your main objective is styling on bosses, and elden ring where everything is just "dodge"
in other words, elden and souls games are easy 👍
they're just reflex games
wheat jay
script changes every time tho
fierce elm
WoW PvP is also a reflex game
lmao
Idk about you, but every person I face in Arena plays the same at a certain point
wheat jay
its more like improvisation on scene vs purely reading from script
fierce elm
Every spec has the same gameplan as the other guys that play the same spec
wheat jay
nah bro
every single player i see plays different O_O
in other words, noone knos how to play their class at 2100
fierce elm
Ah yes, the 50th BM hunter that sends trap or w.e CC on the healer then roots/bindings the DPS surely plays the game differently than the other 49 BM hunters
or the rogue that garrotes a healer into a full CC chain while keeping dots up surely has a different gameplan
wheat jay
Ah yes, the 50th BM hunter that sends trap or w.e CC on the healer then roots/bi...
ye, some send scatter into trap
urban skiff
Ah yes, the 50th BM hunter that sends trap or w.e CC on the healer then roots/bi...
is why I love the chaos of battlegrounds
scripts fall apart
fierce elm
Yeah, to say WoW PvP isnt a script is just flat out wrong
Sure, there can be some unique stuff thrown in there
but in the end 99% of games follow the same script
urban skiff
as long as a game doesn't have skillshots, they're going to be very heavily scripted
wheat jay
sadly wow doesnt 😦
i wish there were more abilities like cleave, eye beam, etc
imagine if hunt had to aim aimed shot
urban skiff
even chess is so scripted
fierce elm
Optimized chess is a draw
But WoW is absolutely a scripted game in every way
until shit goes sideways
but so is Elden Ring
urban skiff
yup
fierce elm
Literally the only variable is player to player
but just looking at specs and pvp without player-influence it has the same script every game
urban skiff
I think a smoking gun, is that people love to say "if players are equally skilled, frost mage always beats warrior"
fierce elm
Its more complex Rock/Papper/Scissoc
rancid granite
thats the joy of pvp ✌️
rancid granite
but so is Elden Ring
elden ring pvp game gonna be fun
rancid granite
make your wow chars as your team
rancid granite
this is the bonus of me always making a human warrior
urban skiff
elden ring pvp game gonna be fun
is it even going to be pvp? I thought it sounded like a roguelite
fierce elm
Human is just so basic
urban skiff
I am stuck on the Baldurs gate creation screen
fuck yeah
Play paladin dark urge
it's a very good experience
fierce elm
And half-orc is so fucking ugly ngl
rancid granite
is it even going to be pvp? I thought it sounded like a roguelite
did i misread it... shit maybe youre right ima google it
kind sentinel
is it even going to be pvp? I thought it sounded like a roguelite
Half-orc is fun you get big crits
wheat jay
I just wanna play a typical barb
Dark urge barb it is then
kind sentinel
Oops meant to respond to afro
fierce elm
Dumb as BRICKS, no charisma lmao
urban skiff
I just wanna play a typical barb
Do 16 str, 16 dex, 16 con
fierce elm
goes through brute-forcing everything
If he doesnt get what he wants he will kill you
wheat jay
Go dark urge tho
urban skiff
Get athletics and intimidation, play the tiefling that gets thaumaturgy cantrip
kind sentinel
If you go giga on str you can eventually throw people that are your size or smaller
urban skiff
rage through the game
urban skiff
play berserker barbarian
fierce elm
I see intimidation as the only thing he can do 'charisma' wise
lmao
Because he will beat the fuck out of you if you dont give him what he wants
urban skiff
you get a lot of unique barbarian/berserker dialogue choices that are absolutely hilarious
rancid granite
is it even going to be pvp? I thought it sounded like a roguelite
k jk its 1-3 man fortnite pve.
wheat jay
First playthrough?
fierce elm
(Yes I am fully aware I will lose a ton of stuff that I can do by going this route but its also Baldurs Gate 3)
I got to like level 3 my first time
then didnt have time at all to play
urban skiff
k jk its 1-3 man fortnite pve.
not 1-3 . It's 1 or 3
wheat jay
100% go dark urge
urban skiff
slight but important difference if you only have a wife
fierce elm
I mean I want a custom : (
wheat jay
You learn a lot more about the game
More lore, more story, funny quests and situations
fierce elm
It has evil vibes
wheat jay
Bro some people call dark urge their urge to eat cookies
Lmao
Dark urge 100% worth it
urban skiff
I don't regret playing through as dark urge first
fierce elm
His only vice is being nice to animals
urban skiff
but I'm also apparently not normal
wheat jay
Game just feels more complete and polished when playing dark urge
fierce elm
Depending on Animal
wheat jay
You can also customize it, you dont need to be a lizard
rancid granite
not 1-3 . It's 1 or 3
urban skiff
His *only* vice is being nice to animals
Do you have a d20?
fierce elm
I refuse to kill dogs cats and cute creatures
wheat jay
I didnt know it until i was in act3...
urban skiff
go to google, put in "d20", you get a window like this
fierce elm
I would do Paladin but I also feel forced into picking the only good options
urban skiff
fierce elm
WHICH I WONT DO
urban skiff
Roll a d20, if you get a 1 you play durge blind
fierce elm
wtf lmao
urban skiff
if you roll anything else go custom
fierce elm
I got a 10
wheat jay
Critical success gameplay
urban skiff
Custom it is, the dice has spoken
wheat jay
Good enough, go dark urge
Its fun
Throws in a little bit unpredictable chaos into the mix of the game
urban skiff
rate my durge
urban skiff
fierce elm
dick-skin
urban skiff
half-orc may be uggo face, but damn they dry as fuck
fierce elm
Yeah half-orc is probably my pick
dont give af uck about racials
but I want a big dude
urban skiff
half-orc berserker barbarian gets a lot of nice dialogue options
fierce elm
and the dragonborn ugly as FUCK
wheat jay
and the dragonborn ugly as FUCK
Nah, some scales make it look gold or silver
fierce elm
More worried about the shenanigans I can get into when I refuse to take a no for an answer
and brute-force everything
wheat jay
Its pretty cool, and then its all under armor lol
wheat jay
More worried about the shenanigans I can get into when I refuse to take a no for...
All the more reason to play dark urge
urban skiff
More worried about the shenanigans I can get into when I refuse to take a no for...
the game has zero ways for you to lock yourself out by making bad choices
fierce elm
Yeah I am assuming they have no soft-locks if I decide to throw a merchant to his/her death because they refused a discount
urban skiff
People focus so much on winning all the dialogue rolls, but sometimes failing rolls is what makes it interesting
take chances, be bold. Be true to your character and you can get a lot of unique playthroughs
urban skiff
Yes
knotty atlas
I gotchu.
fierce elm
Give me some settings
I aint touching tactician
dont mind difficulty
But also don't want to spend 5 hours on a two people fight
urban skiff
I only play honourmode or custom (with honour mode + higher diff stuff) so idk
wheat jay
Technically, you can roll highest difficulty if you die you can continue the save and enemies still have their new abilities
urban skiff
Honour mode adds extra mechanics to bosses and I really enjoy the single save file
but it's not for everyone
I want the game to last as long as possible
fierce elm
Also because I am dumb as a brick, all proficiensies does in character is add some extra damage with those weapons?
urban skiff
I've bricked so many saves because i stubbornly refuse to do anything a DM wouldn't reasonably allow at a table.
urban skiff
Also because I am dumb as a brick, all proficiensies does in character is add so...
proficiencies means you add your proficiency bonus to attack roll. No proficiency and you have a higher chance of missing
if you wear armor without proficiency you cannot cast spells at all
fierce elm
Does it matter for big bonk
urban skiff
not at all
fierce elm
sick
urban skiff
but as a barbarian you can go completely naked and still have a good time
IS what I do, just swinging my wang around
fierce elm
Was wondering if I was going to be forced into the ugly ass orc-thing that isn't half orc
because they had greatswords
urban skiff
nah
barbarian has all weapons and all armor except heavy
even if you can get heavy, don't use it on a barbarian. It's the only class that loses most of their class features using something they're proficient with
fierce elm
My guy can barely string together a sentence, he doesn't understand heavy armor
If he wears a shirt its because he is forced
urban skiff
make sure to pick up great weapon master, it's the only "big bonk" mandatory feat
atlevel 4
or 8
fierce elm
I can raise difficulty any time right?
wheat jay
Iirc no
wheat jay
Dude its mad fun
Adds some chaos and unpredictability to your playthrough
And it explains a lot of the story elements in the game
Its just proper protagonist of the game
urban skiff
I can raise difficulty any time right?
Yes, but never up to honour mode
If you play honour mode and die, you can choose to reload and it'll be custom diff instead. Only change you cannot undo is the one-save feature iirc
fierce elm
Yeah I aint doing honour mode
I so far failed one dice roll
didnt kill the commander
sadge
and smiled at a corpse
fierce elm
Also beat a brain up
urban skiff
big deal, i do that twice before waking up
And I have no brain damage no brain damage no brain damage no brain damage no brain damage
this would be hilarious if it didn't break their saves
fierce elm
Its so strange going from divinity to this
because divinity just has 80 attacks per character lmao
exotic forge
I've been away from wow for a bit, how's the game faring?
fallen estuary
Im banned its so over
boreal veldt
I personally haven't renewed my sub for a few weeks
stark agate
Im banned its so over
what was the name of the DH
fallen estuary
I think it was cleo something
stark agate
ah nvm
fallen estuary
Some EU dude he said
exotic forge
Cool, guess I go back to playing Doom then
stark agate
wow is fun play it if you want
fallen estuary
Cool, guess I go back to playing Doom then
boreal veldt
I've been away from wow for a bit, how's the game faring?
plunderstorm is fun but everything is kinda dead atm, though there should be a spike of pvp for rank 1 push coming up in a few weeks
fallen estuary
I got banned almost hitting 3k in blitz i must doompost
stark agate
im trying to push glad right now, still pretty tough to find games
fallen estuary
Oh yeah I should farm them plunder mogs
Dont LMAO
Youll get beat by a dude roofcamping
boreal veldt
just go again?
boreal veldt
plunder farming is as sweaty as playing flappy bird
exotic forge
It's not as bad as before tbh
Back when it came out it was renown locked, it was awful
boreal veldt
hate renown
lavish quest
Renown was fine. People just very prefer this one since it's 5% of the grind
boreal veldt
i like choosing what i unlock
boreal veldt
madness
exotic forge
If it's an event for cosmetics then it should be up for everyone to grab
fierce elm
Can literally not kill anyone and get 1500-2k plunder lmao
wheat jay
Renown was fine. People just very prefer this one since it's 5% of the grind
Less lmao
wheat jay
Renown was fine. People just very prefer this one since it's 5% of the grind
Less lmao
frank knoll
Can literally not kill anyone and get 1500-2k plunder lmao
People have it optimized and are already like 5-10 levels higher than you in the first 1:30
wheat jay
Its mad easy to get to like level 7 in first 3min of the game
craggy geyser
so tired of paying monthly to be kited around an arena or BG this game is ass
rancid granite
green wharf
be like me, i swtiched to DK
feels good now
fucked over a evoker trying to grab the flag
ok, is that rly a bad word compared to what we say here
rancid granite
if you hate being kited play range duh
green wharf
rancid granite
then when playing range you can complain about the warriors endlessly sticking to you
stark agate
Is there an addon or weakaura like doom_cooldownpulse that you can configure so it doesnt affect every single ability?
civic scarab
Yo, someone in my guild mentioned that the PvP season ends feb 10th for TWW anyone hear anything?
green wharf
Yo, someone in my guild mentioned that the PvP season ends feb 10th for TWW anyo...
dont see any news on wowhead or blue post about it
rancid granite
11th is the 8 week cycle or w/e and 16th plunder ends so surely it's gonna be around then
civic scarab
dont see any news on wowhead or blue post about it
Yeah, I didn’t see anything either I just wanted to make sure
civic scarab
11th is the 8 week cycle or w/e and 16th plunder ends so surely it's gonna be ar...
Does it normally end when the new patch rolls over?
rancid granite
well new patch is s2
right
idk I just heard someone say 11th or 16th on YouTube :b
green wharf
im good cause i got the DK set
my goals for this season are done
wanted to get the 2.1k weapons but highest i got was 2070 
urban skiff
Yo, someone in my guild mentioned that the PvP season ends feb 10th for TWW anyo...
Only cata pvp season.
urban skiff
Casually spending 100k euros at work without having to ask anyone never gets boring
idle falcon
ok, is that rly a bad word compared to what we say here
The fact that we can get gripped during bladestorm but not from queen intermission baffles me
"become an unstoppable storm of destructive force"
Meanwhile DK: "haha grip go brrr"
idle falcon
A DK can grip you in bladestorm now? XD
It's not new
Been that way since the start of xpac
Priest can also grip u but i think that has a different interaction
ripe heron
In my defense I barely touched pvp this expac. But that is some next level dogshit
I just got flabberghasted reading what I just did holy fuck that is bad
What spec is the go to now arms or fury? Might quickly go for 1.8 for that elite set
exotic forge
Been that way since the start of xpac
Been that way since forever I'm afraid
Old Bladestorm desc used to go harder too
fickle forge
Meanwhile DK: "haha grip go brrr"
I remember there being an explanation for it, but I've forgotten it
fickle forge
A DK can grip you in bladestorm now? XD
Since always
ripe heron
Its not been since always my guy.
If thats the case, I've had thousands of arenas where that hasnt happened a single time. Which just doesnt make sense.
fickle forge
Its not been since always my guy.
It has bro
At least as far back as I've been playing, so since Legion at the least
ripe heron
Nah you trippin. I played DK against warr multiple times as well, you couldnt grip when BS was active.
I would have to ask for proof tbh.
idle falcon
I remember there being an explanation for it, but I've forgotten it
Cause dks grip your soul maybe
XD
Makes no sense that other grips don't work though
ripe heron
So we can conclude it's been the case for 9 years at least?
Exactly. lol
Not trying to be annoying or anything
Its just never ever happened to me or me doing it to someone else. I played DK and Warr for enough arenas to where this would have happened.
fickle forge
Its just never ever happened to me or me doing it to someone else. I played DK a...
I got a couple thousand games on warr, and I've had it happen in every expansion I've played
fickle forge
Makes no sense that other grips don't work though
Not sure what other grips you mean
iirc spear and vortex also work on BS
fickle forge
Vortex does NOT work on BS what?!?!
Pretty sure it does
ripe heron
I might be crazy here tbh but its whatever end of the day its just bullshit if thats the case
Bladestorm legit makes u immune to stuns roots etc etc etc
fickle forge
Yeah well, I remember there was an explanation for it at one point
Forgot what it is though
idle falcon
Maybe player issued stuff only counts?
fickle forge
It's like Afro when you put cake in front of him
wheat jay
You can push me away but you aint wrestling me down
I coulsnt find the original so there you go
This is you
100%
fierce elm
I am not clicking any asmongold links
lavish quest
Well why's that?
green wharf
The fact that we can get gripped during bladestorm but not from queen intermissi...
dude, i got grabed by a fucking evoker
while bladestorm
and he throw me off the cliff
fucking class
dense herald
Nah you trippin. I played DK against warr multiple times as well, you couldnt gr...
ive been gripped while bladestorming way too much
ik cuz when dk was meta in like s4 df
and i was playing 2s id go on healer and bladestorming hoping i wouldnt get gripped but i still would get gripped
is this a bad sign from a player
im same rating in 150 games
green wharf
people learning curve is different i guess
craggy geyser
is this a bad sign from a player
Who cares it’s a game. Have fun and keep learning / growing. No one actually gives a shit lol
frank knoll
I am not clicking any asmongold links
Kinda hate how he’s entered the Destiny sphere of degen politics streamer
There’s a whole generation of kids latching onto streamers like Asmongold Destiny, and Hasan and basing their world view off of uninformed opinions of degenerates who stream all day.
Like, Destiny was a pro Starcraft 2 player, why does anyone think he’s qualified to speak on complex geopolitical and economic issues
spice hornet
is this a bad sign from a player
It can be, lots of people just spam queue though. For all we know he could be struggling with LFG people
dense herald
nah he good player
true tiger
well for 3v3 its not bad
dense herald
Solo shuffle for life
shuffle life is you go 6-0 as warrior think ur good then u get a diabolical lobby and go 0-6
chilly pivot
ANY ele shaman with some higher exp here? Need one ASAP for glad push! Hardstuck warrior becous ele suck 😮💨
idle falcon
shuffle life is you go 6-0 as warrior think ur good then u get a diabolical lobb...
Reached 2405 though
urban skiff
Can someone explain why redditors seem obsessed with getting the FE version of Nvidia cards? Are they especially good? Cheap?
urban skiff
ANY ele shaman with some higher exp here? Need one ASAP for glad push! Hardstuck...
Did you try playing with enh?
fierce elm
I killed the Female githykk
fierce elm
Can someone explain why redditors seem obsessed with getting the FE version of N...
its more rare and cool
Its usually worse
urban skiff
I killed the Female githykk
Bae'zel noooooo
urban skiff
She's the cutest frog
urban skiff
Barb is frontloaded. Falls off at level 6 but doesn't really get bad.
urban skiff
Some people mix barb with rogue and fighter to get higher damage.
But going full barb is not at all bad.
fierce elm
Still figuring out my party
urban skiff
Did you get GWM?
fierce elm
Got Gale - Wizard, Shadowheart - Cleric, Astarion - Archer, me BARB
yeah
Gale is slowly starting to pop off
Astarion does giga damage
urban skiff
Protip, if you put stuff on your custom bar it will keybind to 1-9, so put cantrips and other often used spells and toggles there.
I always keep GWM on number 1
urban skiff
Yeah, it's a toggle.
If you go to your reactions pane you can make it always ask if you want to do reckless attack when you miss too.
Get used to the reactions tab, its really important if you decide to play paladin, especially a sorcadin/bardin smite build
Make sure gale learns hold person, you are guaranteed to crit vs targets that are held.
fierce elm
oh
urban skiff
I know all the tricks.
I got so bored that i played almost all of act 1 at level 1, solo.
rancid granite
typical bg fan
fierce elm
Make sure gale learns hold person, you are guaranteed to crit vs targets that ar...
this is metagaming
I dont know that
boreal veldt
Like, Destiny was a pro Starcraft 2 player, why does anyone think he’s qualified...
the future of talking head politics is led by big blizzard gamers lmao
slow solstice
@urban skiff haev you played any fire emblem games
urban skiff
<@205395474784583681> haev you played any fire emblem games
Nop
urban skiff
this is metagaming
Hardly. Gale has high intelligence and know what his spells will do, even if you do not. 🤓
slow solstice
Nop
I recommend
Though how you will play when ds and switch emulatros are taken out
frank knoll
the future of talking head politics is led by big blizzard gamers lmao
Worst timeline
Imagine the next big politician being a former RBG leader
rancid granite
Though how you will play when ds and switch emulatros are taken out
ditch them and fire emblem and just stick to FFT 💪
maybe some shining force
i hear tatics battle ogre is a classic but god damn the switch port is /ugly/
urban skiff
Though how you will play when ds and switch emulatros are taken out
Emulator will have to be the way. I don't want to invest into Nintendo stuff because of the ridiculous prices on old stuff
sterile moth
@aatos tactics ogre is very good
rancid granite
@aatos tactics ogre is very good
i should just dl the psp version, i hear its like psx just tweaked a few things to make it better
sterile moth
Final Fantasy Tactics is even better in my opinion. I really loved that genre of game growing up
rancid granite
its the only game that is a proper mobile game
the port is the best way to play :D
unless you dl the psp version so you can pvp vs someone lol
just need to set rules like no mathematician or dancers
lavish quest
Balloons tower defense 6 free off epic atm.
Decent lil pass time on the phone considering I never play games on phone
rancid granite
well looks like you should check out FFT's mobile version
rancid granite
same game just easier to casually play; and you can fiddle with camera angle with your fingers so its like an interactive 3D hologram chess board thing
fierce elm
just a warning
sterile moth
Argath you bastard!
chilly pivot
give me some tips on what is good to spell reflect in arenas
out over the normal, polly and cyclone, hex
sterile moth
Haunt
Chaos bolt
I reflected a bolt for 2.5 million the other day with the reflect pvp talent
chilly pivot
Cyclone, Hex, Polly, Haunt, Soult Rot, VT, Mind control, Chaos bolt, lava burst, stormkeeper, unstable affliction is what i have right now tracked
did i miss some nice shit
wheat jay
@fierce elm you in act3 yet?
fierce elm
no wtf
Cleared the goblins last
exploring some of the map I missed right after waking up at the beach
wheat jay
youre dark urge, right?
fierce elm
yes
chilly pivot
if a warrior cast stormbolt , can i spell reflect it before its land on me?
chilly pivot
okey ty 😛
fierce elm
Gale is my pal rn
wheat jay
oh
fierce elm
I did kill Lazael or w.e
wheat jay
good