pvp

[rancid granite]

thus zug

watch Conan the barbarian and take tips on how to be a badass; go in with that mentality

maybe some john wick movies

[sour crag]

How am I suppose to not overthink when I am surrounded by so many variables to mind of to even operate as a damage dealer?

[rancid granite]

you dont see them asking for tips or overthinking

they just zug

and stop making excuses

'dont do this' 'but but but but but....'

[fierce elm]

The same way you can exist in normal life, by getting used to it

[rancid granite]

no variables; just do dmg

and yeah how does one learn anything in life

[sour crag]

I spam Rampage as often as possible. Hell, I even have a big fucking weakaura icon splashing on my screen yelling me to press it, just so I don't keep forgetting it. Still I feel like I am hitting nothing. And even if I do get close, I get stunned to all hell and it never becomes enough by the time I recover.

[rancid granite]

excuses

[sour crag]

Even the frikking warlocks get full health by the time I get 2 sec stun

No really

how

[rancid granite]

they have tools to stop you, you have tools to get to them and stop them

hit cc, hit charge

boom done

[sterile moth]

Fury can do good damage when not CC’d but generally you climb by being a closer—big execute and kills in bladestorm

[rancid granite]

like afro said 'i cant x or y' is a woe is me attitude

remember the little engine that could, bro?

'i think i can i think i can'

just use what tools you got

if they try to run, slow them, if they are far, charge, if you have cc up, cc

https://tenor.com/view/чкх-чух-паровоз-пейн-funny-face-gif-17070607

[sour crag]

Well, at least I got a saddle for my trouble.

[rancid granite]

fix the mind set shouldn't be any trouble at all it should be fun and you should be learning from every match

[sterile moth]

For sure…take your lumps, keep an open mind and stop focusing on what you can’t do. Every session you focus on implementing one small thing that’s been lacking

Are you a MFing warrior or a mouse?!

[sour crag]

I got wasted by a DH

...

[rancid granite]

as a wise woman once said

shake it off, shake it off

[sour crag]

I got away with another draw

[wheat jay]

why are you doing 382k dps????

[sour crag]

Good question. Stunlocked and never getting into melee range, then I got nuked by the BM and eyebeam

[rancid granite]

why aren't you in melee range vs a dh or rogue

[sour crag]

I walked. Basically.

I was that slow.

[rancid granite]

you have a slow and 4 gap closers and ~3 root breaks

and a trinket

[sour crag]

4 gap closers?

[wheat jay]

i guess he meant 3

charge charge leap

[sharp meteor]

am i seein two dps under a healer

[wheat jay]

looks like it

and one is fury warr O_O

[sharp meteor]

brutal

[sour crag]

I don't know what to tell you guys. I got destroyed, simple as. Lots to be said retrospectively, I'm sure. Not proud of it, certainly.

You guys dont want me to keep saying excuses so

[patent forum]

That’s a thane spear big dam lobby

[rancid granite]

intervene :)

[wheat jay]

oh right

4 it is then

dude i played some dh 2s today

and fucking hell its torment XD

[sour crag]

I just got 2s with a retri and fury and I had a restrodruid.

yeah I think I'm not gonna pick restrodruid anymore

[sterile moth]

Save your stuns for eye beam and burst them

[boreal veldt]

[torn sigil]

Pumpweaver

[boreal veldt]

only time i had this kind of lobby was when demolish softlocked my game

[rancid granite]

that was my dps when i went zero haste colossus

[torn sigil]

I tried Mastery arms a few times feels odd but there's something there

[rancid granite]

its all about s2 can keep haste baseline like 15-20% and just full pump the mast/crit

[torn sigil]

Honestly sick of haste stack it's so cringe

[rancid granite]

agree

[boreal veldt]

gonna cook even more NATO violation builds in s2 and run blademaster's torment and just send fervor cleaves into melee comps

[frank knoll]

Haste is a target dummy stat

[dense herald]

i hope arms good next season

i miss big mortal strikes

[fickle forge]

In his defense, he probably pressed jade kick and then ToD

[fickle forge]

Not looking bright then podolski

DH is pretty meme

[sour crag]

On the upside, I've not lost ratings so far since.

[exotic forge]

And they say BT is bad kek

[torn sigil]

Aight bro

[fickle forge]

Meanwhile, this is what I hit for

[wheat jay]

Have you tried hitting harder?

[fickle forge]

They could lowkey buff Execute by 50% for arms and it'd still not be broken

[green wharf]

no sorry

we have to increase all paladin damage by 5%

because they nerfed an aoe or some shit

[fickle forge]

I mean it's crazy to me my unbuffed MS hits like 50% harder than what my Exe would have

Complete troll button to press

[wheat jay]

Unbind exe lmao

[torn sigil]

Exe hits hard 1/1000 clicks and the dopamine rush from big Ms into big exe cannot be overcome I'm sorry

[exotic forge]

MS has always been that big hitting ability anyways

[wheat jay]

Arms used to be the big hitting spec

[exotic forge]

When things get hard, you get harder

[hot solstice]

Check war buffs on ptr

I wonder if 20% mortal buff goes on top of previous 15 or instead

[slow solstice]

prob prev

only way to test is hit the dummy

[exotic forge]

Execute 10%

wheeze

[sharp meteor]

got 3k on prot

[sharp meteor]

Wish they'd buff her again. Just once more.

[hot solstice]

Wonder if supatease making new video already

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[exotic forge]

Now do it as Arms

[exotic forge]

They won't

[sharp meteor]

My dragon disconnected when I started playing arms which docked 200 or so points from me and nuked my will to play it, lmao. 😵‍💫

[exotic forge]

[green wharf]

i lost internet in both arms and fury

and their mmr was bricked after that

had to climb prot

more fun too

prot is the shit on blitz

[rancid granite]

whats your role in them any different as pro?

[sharp meteor]

honestly somewhat similar

either spin node or defendo fc

[rancid granite]

right on

and grats

:D

[green wharf]

whats your average q time

i was getting 40-50m as prot

[sharp meteor]

usually like 5-10 in evenins

just had an insta one

[green wharf]

EU?

[fallen estuary]

Dracthyr tax

[frank knoll]

I don’t see how Prot is fun

I just die to S priest and Aff dots

[rancid granite]

sword&board alone is fun

[sharp meteor]

Wait. They did buff execute by 10% albeit on ptr.

[rancid granite]

cool factor +10

[green wharf]

when they are alone?

should not be right

[frank knoll]

Naw like BG team fight

1v1 I stay on top of them the whole time not matter what spec and they die unless they’re way better than me

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/wtff-cat-confused-orange-gif-25858653

you die or they die

btw, blizz said they want to slow down prot gameplay cause AMP and the playstyle being to spammy would be a problem to some players

fury better wacht out

[fierce kite]

Yeah I'm worried about that

[sharp meteor]

eh with absurd haste it is a lil spammy

which is fun but ic an see why they'd adjust it a bit

[green wharf]

blizz put two damn Mw in the same team ina flag bg

fucking fuck

[loud goblet]

what neck piece should i go for as a arms war

[exotic forge]

Haste/vers

[loud goblet]

so im looking at best comps for 2v2 for arms and it saids reto shammy, resto druid and voker, which 1 should i go for?

[patent forum]

They’re all fine

[loud goblet]

so i saw the top person using crafted then i saw another guy up there using the achievment 1, which 1 should i use?

[torn sigil]

if youre talking about weapon crafted one

symbiosis lets you take some lower vers items but majority of ppl take ascendance im pretty sure

[torn sigil]

Genitalically endowed to a degree of physical hindrance

[loud goblet]

so what do i go for achievment or crafted weapon

i know what emb to put on crafted

just dont know if thats the best choice

[sharp meteor]

they're both fine

ascension + banding or double gem both aight

[fierce elm]

Whichever healer you can find unless you have a healer friend

[urban skiff]

Just how bad is vengeance dh in pvp, that there's zero DHs in solo shuffle on the murlokio list?

[sharp meteor]

bad in shuff

good in bgs

[urban skiff]

I kind of want to play one

still levelling, but what should i be doing in bgs?

[fierce elm]

Great for sub 1800 solo shuffle

[urban skiff]

that's my jam!

[fierce elm]

because nobody knows how to play the game

[sharp meteor]

so u just kind of rotate around and spin/cap or run flag

u cant rly kill people

and u cant facetank as much as other tanks

[fierce elm]

absolutely dogshit as soon as people develop a brain cell that knows how to counter dh lmao

[sharp meteor]

he said veng

[fierce elm]

ah fuck

[sharp meteor]

which is like breaking ur hands then pressing q

[fierce elm]

Now I look DUMB!

maybe I had the missing brain cell

[urban skiff]

dh is so much fun to fight on my shaman

I don't know how you can play DH into shaman and not literally yeet yourself off the edge of the arena or bg map

[fierce elm]

my favorite matchup is still assa into destro

because fuck destro

[wheat jay]

Cuz sham is equally dogshit in 2s lol

[leaden sail]

Someone know if vicious bloodstones become outdated in S2? or do we need to use them again so i can buy some of them to resell them higher in s2?

[urban skiff]

Are you on EU?

[leaden sail]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[urban skiff]

I think there's a lot of people doing the same thing and you might be able to turn a profit.

[north thicket]

Hey, what was the thing with these cancelled buffs and why did we get shafted again? Missing the storyline.

[leaden sail]

yeah, dont get me wrong, i dont wanna spend my 3 mio in that, but just safe my honor and maybe buy some

[urban skiff]

But more likely you'll have to hold the majority way into s2 and drizzle them off whenever the price shoots up

I spend 800k on some at 2k - 2.5k so I'm gucci as long as the price goes over 3k

[leaden sail]

last time i did something like this was in DF s1 to s2, bought some gems for like 18k and they dropped to 9k

[fickle forge]

Imagine if they buffed fury by 20%

Ridiculous

[fierce elm]

Sell them to me

2k gold each

[fierce elm]

nobody knows

[exotic forge]

LMAO they reverted them?

What a fuckin meme

[green wharf]

stop.buffing.slam

[fierce elm]

they stopped buffing everything so no worries

[green wharf]

wait, those were supposed to be buffs for the patch and they reverted?

[fierce elm]

They reverted it yes

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

[north thicket]

And there is also the point of scaling in s2.
Realistically we are to be capped in Versa (pvp) and Mastery (pve/pvp), Haste usually diminishes in value roughly after 20% (once you manage to fit in a full additional global in Reck or CS for arms).
What's left is Critical strike and fury doesn't scale well with it, only Slayer gets some decent value out of it.

I am talking out of my ass here, but the point stays

[hot solstice]

1 extra global works for 10 sec csmash

[frank knoll]

They buffed BM btw

[frank knoll]

Yeah vicious bloodstones are seasonal as far as I know

[fickle forge]

Don't care about raids bro

[fierce elm]

Raid DPS is direct to pvp dps

[fickle forge]

I care more about this

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897055819475091456/1332489655416787046/image.png?ex=679619f2&is=6794c872&hm=3bc340e5c946af938b67eb5433a4bc5c9f7f2d8233a15d4a407b141bb9e7aa33&

[fierce elm]

thats why BM is the worst spec in the game

[fickle forge]

If only they didn't buff abilities by 50% in PvP

[fierce elm]

its direct

[torn sigil]

so we shoud sell them?

[fierce elm]

vicius bloodstones are the same for next season

Or at least thats the rumor

[frank knoll]

I heard the opposite

[torn sigil]

thhought so its the socket thats seasonal

[fierce elm]

so who knows at this point

[frank knoll]

I just sold mine

[green wharf]

in the ptr

[fierce elm]

Everyone is basing it around that the pvp recipes don't have to be farmed again

[green wharf]

they still use vicious blodstones

unless they change overnight it should still be the same

[fierce elm]

you should have 15k honor stockpiled for the next season

however

at least for the season start

preferably more

on more characters

[green wharf]

doesnt honor get reset every season

and they turn into gold or smth

[fierce elm]

nope

Between expansions

[frank knoll]

Conquest resets
Honor doesn’t

Not sure about bloody tokens

[green wharf]

well ive being buying blood tokens weapons and selling then for a while

[fierce elm]

bloody tokens get reset too

[green wharf]

last night i got 10k out of it

[fierce elm]

We keep honor across the season

[north thicket]

You are right, of course, but everything else equal raid dps is pointing out that Fury is already lagging behind in pve dps and might lag behind in pvp dps

[frank knoll]

Hammer of light buffed too wtf

Big looney toons hammer already hits for like 1/3 of ur hp

[fierce elm]

You mean those that got nerfed?

Yeah those

[frank knoll]

The little ones did

[fierce elm]

Yes

[north thicket]

The major one got buffed

[fierce elm]

They are shifting damage from the lil hammers onto rets entire kit

[green wharf]

paladin main detected

[north thicket]

The little ones were more or less cleave dmg

Or?

[fierce elm]

The little ones was also pretty pad-heavy when it came to most matchups

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/opinion-youropinionvsmyopinion-gigachadopinion-gigachad-gif-18055792891294678978

[frank knoll]

Initial hit hits for more cause it benefits from FR

[fierce elm]

Since you cant control them whatsoever

So yeah, they are shifting damage from that towards paladins kit instead

Which is completely fine

[north thicket]

Isn't ret single target burst already high enough in pvp

[fierce elm]

Considering they arent looking at current numbers

and current numbers are somewhat useless

for next seasons tuning

Ret was also lacking single target

which this is a somewhat buff or in terms of PvE

[frank knoll]

I’m more annoyed about BM buffs

[fierce elm]

Which they need, for PvE

[frank knoll]

Coming from a hunter main

[fierce elm]

However, yall looking at this season

[frank knoll]

BM isn’t even fun to play if youre winning
Same way I feel about playing DH when its good
I don’t like running people over cause my spec is over tuned

[north thicket]

Fury also needs the buffs from the perspective of the next season but they got cancelled

[frank knoll]

Buff arms

[fierce elm]

thank god the patch isnt here

[north thicket]

^Arms buffs Oo

[fierce elm]

and yall most likely dont have a check for how the testing is looking

[exotic forge]

Every day we stray further away from the Arms dream rework

https://tenor.com/view/i-can't-gif-10933132917871445062

[north thicket]

Unsure if a semi-ranged class deserves a strong ST burst on a 45 cd

[fierce elm]

30s

But thank god we arent the ones to judge

because once more, I dont have numbers

[green wharf]

this seems like prot stuff

arms ip is like 1m cd

[urban skiff]

What's the buff?

[north thicket]

The formula might be changed for both Prot and Arms, but yes you are right on the tooltip is confusing

[exotic forge]

Leave it to Blizz to make a tooltip confusing

[north thicket]

Buffs as ironically said, I have no idea myself how this would work out 😦

[torn sigil]

*every day we are closer to mop classic

[urban skiff]

The tooltip is missing a link to the formula.

Stop looking at the data mined changes. You wont ever be happy if you don't know how to read them

[exotic forge]

[torn sigil]

5.4 client no 5.0 second wind though

[exotic forge]

Who needs it when you can stay D stance at all times, really

[green wharf]

5.0 second wind was the best counter noobs in wow i experienced

[fierce elm]

We need to react NOW

TO EVERYTHING

[exotic forge]

Whoh

[green wharf]

we do actually

only now they can revert/make changes

[fierce elm]

REACT TO THE DATA CHANGES

TOOLTIP CHANGEs

DO IT RN

[torn sigil]

i will be announcing my response to afro reaction at 12 gmt 2 weeks time

[green wharf]

Afro is just fine cuz paladins, are getting buffed

[torn sigil]

why

[idle falcon]

guys do u take Opportunist or Fierce Followthrough

which one

[torn sigil]

seems 90% take opportunis but i like fierce followthrough sometimes

[exotic forge]

Opportunist

[torn sigil]

if im not takes the bladestorm one

i go followthrough

[north thicket]

Afro is right and we should wait for release but flabbergasting about possible changes is fun esp when not much else to do rn :)))

[exotic forge]

I mean if you're playtesting it you should react but on the testing forums

[north thicket]

Also, we shouldn't miss an opportunity to sabotage any Mage, Ret, Rogue and Hunter buffs

[green wharf]

basically this

[fickle forge]

Yeah but you can't trust that. Spells are tuned different between PvE and PvP. Like thane buffing Rampage by 45% instead of 30% between the contents.

In the same way I top 5M Execute in PvE but only 1.1M in PvP

[north thicket]

🤣

[torn sigil]

multiplied by 0? or should it say the attack power calculation

[green wharf]

man

[rancid granite]

https://youtu.be/WJyT0V0rFQA?si=SHrkg5XLdB5HaVH2 @urban skiff

[green wharf]

you know the new bg

with the carts and crystal

i just discovered monks can grab the crystal and teleport above the tracks uphigh

and run freely to cap

[torn sigil]

you can with alter time too

[green wharf]

that need to be done way too quick

[torn sigil]

if lock can portal prob that too

[green wharf]

monks being able to left the copy there is bs

when warlocks cant

[torn sigil]

monks have nothing else going for them

[green wharf]

surely

[torn sigil]

also a bad bg to be down a healer

perma teamfight

[green wharf]

dont need to be a healer

but who cares if you win

monks are insta win in bgs

i won with our healer doing that and i feel dirty

[dense herald]

is this good or bad

[wheat jay]

wtf is even that

[green wharf]

when they tried to eat our dog

they rework stuff to give MM the pet buffs

so now you can aply ms without the Ms pet

[urban skiff]

Where is the tier list

[green wharf]

thats very neat cause now i can use slow pets

[wheat jay]

i mean it is neat

but only for mm

[chilly pivot]

OMG, 20% buff to Rampage, raging blow, bloodthirst and odyns fury! CANT BE REAL 😮

[wheat jay]

which sucks

[wheat jay]

reverted

go back to sleep

wake up in 11.2 when you maybe get a buff

[frank knoll]

MM mortal strike cause they don’t have a pet anymore

[chilly pivot]

this is real info bro

[green wharf]

well, at least we can still change pet specs, i was tired of using hyena and raptors

[frank knoll]

Survival looks like it will be a sleeper like always

[wheat jay]

those buffs got reverted

its in the wowhead post

youre not getting them

[chilly pivot]

really..

[wheat jay]

read

[green wharf]

all though i got my hiperfocus on dinossaurs again, cause the hunter set look slick as fuck

[wheat jay]

meanwhile im tempted to make monk

[green wharf]

me and the gang going to jurassic world

[wheat jay]

so i can int kargish even harder

[chilly pivot]

i saw now. but atleast we will get some buffs, i dont think they reverted all of them

[green wharf]

when i was levleing, monk was rly nice

but when i got max lv

meh

it misses the sauce

[wheat jay]

they did

thats literally what is written there

[chilly pivot]

yeah they reverted it becous they will add 10% more dmg to everything, so 30% instead of 20% 😄 😄

[wheat jay]

...

[wheat jay]

?

where is this from?

[hot solstice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgJxmxCVwLg

[green wharf]

sounds like fake

[hot solstice]

Is it 1st April or wha?

[wheat jay]

fake

[green wharf]

i find it funny

cause its bad to the point it cna be official

[exotic forge]

Dead giveaway it's fake

[rancid granite]

lmao i realized it after i sent it but neat vid regardless

[long kernel]

Lmao they reverted the buffs 😭

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[urban skiff]

what colour nail polish suits warriors?

my daughter is asking

I was going to say brown/earthy colours

but then i remembered warriors are a dramatic bunch so maybe pinky pink

[green wharf]

black

[urban skiff]

black is rogue, dh, warlock

I say

[tulip sail]

pink for sure

[green wharf]

nah they use dark purple

cause their sacrifice

cant use just black

warrior si either black or deep red

like your soul and the blood fo your enemies

[rancid granite]

i mean whatever vikings would wear right, so flashy and pretty?

all different colors each nail

maybe sounds girly? but imagine it with a big axe in hand

[wheat jay]

werent vikings described as "too clean" by brits in middle ages?

[rancid granite]

clean, clean fingernails etc lol

thats why i can envision pretty fingernails colorful paint and all

[green wharf]

i dont see then using many colors tbh

more like bland brown/red

blue

i remember when i was studying a medieval class the professor talk about stuff like they would do to get clothes tinted

and use urine

neat stuff

[hot solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-gif-8497733

[rancid granite]

an icon

red and black socks there's the nail color

[urban skiff]

this is the colour palette used by vikings

https://natmus.dk/historisk-viden/danmark/oldtid-indtil-aar-1050/vikingetiden-800-1050/vikingetidens-farvepalet/

According to the natural history museum in Denmark anyways

[rancid granite]

zero blue i've been lied to

[green wharf]

yep, exactly what i expected

with the exception of the yellow

[urban skiff]

blue has historically everywhere in the world been a really difficult and expensive dye

Blue also practically doesn't exist in nature so that's a big limit

[rancid granite]

true

i know like purple was rare and from like snails and stuff

didnt think of blue

[urban skiff]

It's because blue pigment doesn't actually exist in nature

[fierce elm]

Blue doesnt exist

yeah

Its a wild color

[urban skiff]

blue exists, just not as a natural pigment. I'm pretty sure we synthesize in now.

[fierce elm]

like wild

Yeah we do

Its all different shades of purple in nature but we named them stupid stuff

such as blueberries

[urban skiff]

What's blowing my mind is realizing that there's no purple in the rainbow, but we're seeing purple because the very edge of red mixes with ultra violet and the very edge of blue mixdes with infra red.

The distance between the two rainbows in a double rainbow covers the invisible light spectrum. It's all the colours we can't see.

Purple isn't real

[ocean jasper]

Is mountain thane or slayer better for fury?

[green wharf]

there is a ok number of animals and plants blue

but it mut be hard to gt as pigment for clothes

[urban skiff]

which do you like better?

[urban skiff]

they're not actually blue because of pigment. They're blue because of light refracting weirdly on weird surfaces

[ocean jasper]

Slayer but only because I haven't tried mountain thane yet

[urban skiff]

lucky, that's the strongest one

[green wharf]

thats how it works for all colors

[urban skiff]

No?

Green things absorb all the light that isn't green.

Blue butterfly wings are blue because light passes through a series of translucent layers that so happens to reflect blue light

is translucent the right word? Iridescent?

[green wharf]

what i meant to say is regardless, colours is just what we perceive in thw wavelight anyway

[chilly pivot]

its someone use "TAUNT" before like polly or something?

just wondering if TAUNT can be useful in pvp somehow

[urban skiff]

taunt is great for multiple things

it's off the gcd so it can always put rogues and others in combat without hurting your rotation

you can put it in twin castsequence macros

This creates a "hole" in one castsequence while preserving the order in the other:

#showtooltip
/castsequnce reset=10 power1,taunt,power4
/castsequnce reset=10 power2,power3,power5

So they still progress in pairs.

You can taunt pets off of their target so the pet might be out of range of stun target

[chilly pivot]

i dont understand

[urban skiff]

taunt them into attacking poly if lucky

[chilly pivot]

so basacly just taunt pets off cd

[urban skiff]

above macro will cast power1 and power2 simultaneously. It will cast power3 "alone" (it's still casting taunt), and then cast power4 and power5 simultaneously

[chilly pivot]

how can a pet taunt macro looks like

[urban skiff]

showtooltip Bloodthirst ( or Mortal Strike )
/cast Bloodthirst ( or Mortal Strike )
/cast [@arenapet1] Taunt
/cast [@arenapet2] Taunt
/cast [@arenapet3] Taunt

[ocean jasper]

Is circes circlet worth using?

[urban skiff]

absolutely not

[ocean jasper]

Word

[chilly pivot]

should i just spam it when its ready then?

or should i wait for something

[urban skiff]

Idk, I don't bother

I have a separate bind for taunt

[chilly pivot]

its only me or is execute total garbage in thane build?

[urban skiff]

huh

why does it matter?

The whole point of stuff being balanced is that you take big dam out of one ability and put it into another

[chilly pivot]

i can spam all other abilitys and they do more dmg then execute

[green wharf]

not exactly

[chilly pivot]

i dont need it in the rotation ,dont have space for it

[green wharf]

thane get extra damage execute

[urban skiff]

you definitely need it and should find space for it

[green wharf]

but you only rly press with sudden death

[urban skiff]

remember execute is two damage instances, not one. So if you press execute and see 666k, then you did 1m damage because the other hit is 333k

[green wharf]

and if you dont have rampage on

[urban skiff]

If you jsut look at details after and check the biggest hit you aren't doing it right

[bronze flare]

does racial really matter in pvp? i would rather be a blood elf than orc for cosmetic and lore reasons, and wasnt sure sure if the orc racial was a make or break for fury/arms warrior in pvp?

[urban skiff]

the less you can use your full class and spec kit, the less racial matters

[green wharf]

+25% damage on execute

[urban skiff]

the closer you are to capping out on what the class can do, the more racials matter

[green wharf]

and execute trigger lightinning strikes, so you def want to press it

[green wharf]

if you dont want to be on the top 10 in the world or something, it doesnt matter

[bronze flare]

i have heard its less than .1% change between blood elf and orc, and that arcial only really matters in like the top 3-5% of all pvp warriors

[green wharf]

orc is superior because they look amazing in plate

[bronze flare]

yeah thats what i keep hearing so i guess since at best id be like an advanced player with a good seasonal rating after playing warrior for a while, that means that i should just roll blood elf if i personally prefer them, and it wont really affect me?

[urban skiff]

orcs look derp

[urban skiff]

where are you seeing 0.1%? pve numbers don't tell the story in pvp

[bronze flare]

i just meant by that statement that i heard racial ability only matters in the most elite players

[urban skiff]

they matter below the most elite. Like I said, the better you can use your class / spec kit the more you can make use of the differences in racials

[green wharf]

you cant top perfection

[urban skiff]

the only thing that looks good is kthuman

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

rate my new DH btw

[green wharf]

i wish orcs had the option to have grom glorious hair

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-lamar-damn-album-buddy-the-elf-im-allergic-to-elf2003-gif-25794591

[chilly pivot]

no exee

[green wharf]

the fuck is that

intriguing

[rancid granite]

lmao

[urban skiff]

rather get off than get out tbh

what good is killing people if you can't make them irrationally angry over what you're wearing while doing it?

[green wharf]

chat, rate this, ay or nay

not getting any capstones

thane build btw

[sharp meteor]

actually what i was playin albeit without sd in fafvor of fresh meat

then the bleed stuff dropped for onslaught

[frank knoll]

Kinda a full set guy tbh

[green wharf]

SD?

did you got tenderize?

usually i would drop bloodborne, but i was toying with dragon roar build

20% increase seems better than onslaught cause you dont have downtime with this rage and ragging blow reset

[sharp meteor]

w/e the execute proc thing is

[sharp meteor]

ye

maximize enrage uptime cos it can be fallin off with spam cc

roar dmg doesnt do much

[green wharf]

a sudden death

[green wharf]

so i can drop bloodborne and gushing wound just fine

but no sudden death feels weird, gota love the random procs

[sharp meteor]

dont have the globals to use them

[frank knoll]

Avg forum poster

[green wharf]

average paladin/mage main

all i see is that if he get stabbed he will live

[frank knoll]

This is how i picture mage mains

[violet fossil]

average discord mod

[green wharf]

thats an elf player

plays night elf female

100¨%

[north thicket]

Why would vikings/Danes be the proper role model for warriors? More like pirates but I do have a ton of respect for them and their history/origins/mythology! @urban skiff

There was a tribe which name literally translates to warriors "sons of Ares (Mars)" .
Their Berserkering had existed way before vikings' time, it is written in the Anicent Greek and Roman archives!

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[urban skiff]

because blizzard decided that's the lore

[rancid granite]

there is endless reasons why vikings would be a proper warrior

[urban skiff]

notice the nordic theme for odyn etc

[rancid granite]

but there can be multiple

[green wharf]

but how can the vikings/danes name themselves sons of a greek god

https://tenor.com/view/what-you-talking-about-what-is-going-on-what-confused-confused-look-gif-19302294

[north thicket]

They didn't, read carefully it's a different tribe I am talking about

[green wharf]

ah

but afaik, it was msotly the spartans who had the ares thing going on

then romans with mars, overtaking athena worship

[north thicket]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrax_(mythology)

Spartacus most notable in Roman history

Rhesus in the Ancient Greek history, Troy war

Orpheus

[green wharf]

but thats a dude, not a tribe

[north thicket]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thracians

[green wharf]

from what i understand, the dude was a son of ares not that his name meant"son of ares", so the name of the people were most likely derived from the dude

[north thicket]

By the way, because some of us are Europeans and it's good to know our origins

Europe (Greek origin) originally was the name for Thrace, and then it spanned as a term for the whole continent

Besides the mythological figure of Europa

[spice hornet]

Any eiroepeans wanna trade their citizenship for an American one

[rancid granite]

taurine with the A+ facts today i dig it

[violet fossil]

Gay

[urban skiff]

berserking wasn't really a thing

Vikings went vikinging and went "gimme your stuff and also I'm going to do your wife and daughters real quick. Ok see you next season"

Look up the reason why England has towns called stuff like "grimsby" and stuff

[urban skiff]

i go where greenland goes

[green wharf]

isnt berserking the go crazy with mushroom stuff

[urban skiff]

Yeah it's literally just getting high before a fight

[green wharf]

he would be the main cast in the next season of dungeons and drag queens

[urban skiff]

tbh been thinking about picking up a 2nd job as remote US whatever

PM work seems really really easy in the US

Can confirm, I'm a complete moron

wait, project or product?

I'm in project

[spice hornet]

Project

[urban skiff]

yeah still true

[violet fossil]

Ah carry on then

[urban skiff]

PM'ing is 20% spreadsheets and 80% either asking people if something is done or telling other people when something will be done

apparently having the emotional intelligence to make people want to complete stuff in time for you is a mythical super power

[spice hornet]

It will be hard to get a fully remote role on the US rn. Tech companies are laying off like crazy, hiring is slow.

Also some big tech is returning 5 day RTO, with many others that just blindly follow. At best lots of hybrid but the remote roles are rare

[urban skiff]

yeah I've seen the reddit posts..

I'm hoping to pick up a job where I have to do minimal work and do it while I'm doing my real job

[spice hornet]

Remote ^

[urban skiff]

and since I have a primary job (and am european) I don't need health insurance or other benefits

[spice hornet]

Probably could find some start up

[urban skiff]

I'm 20% remote in theory but I also have 100% control of where and how i spend my time

[spice hornet]

But start ups are usually grind shops

[north thicket]

Project Management seems like a prime candidate for an obsolete profession in the next 2-5y... Or?

What's the added value here

[urban skiff]

eh, that's the magic. I get overemployed, run the course of it for however long I can and cash some cheques. If it works out, great, if not, i've still billed some hours

[urban skiff]

it's completely impossible to automate or AI-shittify PM jobs

it's almost entirely about getting people to do stuff while having zero authority over them

Or dealing with unknown shit and finding solutions that don't fit in neat little boxes

Like finding a taxi driver willing to drive across the country to pick up a specific component at 3 in the morning because you need it on location and it's cheaper to pay a taxi driver 4+ hours than it is to have your team stop working

[north thicket]

Hmmm... makes sense but in my experience project managers are a disposable expense

Where is the motivation of a skilled value-additive worker to share his pay with a project manager in order to listen to motivational speeches or whatever

Been there, done that

Sorry not anymore

[urban skiff]

PMs are like IT. When everything is going well you wonder why you pay them

Its going well because of them.

[urban skiff]

I don't really understand this. I solve their problems and listen to their input

Like my welder wants to use a different method, asks me if he can and how it should be done. I find out and tell him. He's happy because he's now increased his money per hour. I'm happy because work is done faster.

[north thicket]

Maybe you are right

[urban skiff]

Or I chew out his boss because they tried to tell him to with with chemicals without having the certificates.

AI could do one, of those, maybe. If unless it's one of the days where it spazzes out and tells you to add lead to your breakfast eggs to sweeten it

[north thicket]

You are right, AI would never be able to steer human relationships and solve any frictions at work

[urban skiff]

I'm not going to pretend that I'm the greatest gift or that PMs are great

but it's going to be hard to replace us

since we're the buffer between the work and management.

[frank knoll]

I feel like DH is fundamentally better than Fury
Fury is just over tuned and hits like a freight train

[wheat jay]

Huh

In what aspect is dh better

Except for having one more cc

And ye, fury is good because its overtuned rn

And noobs still csnt break 400k dps...

[fickle forge]

We back?

[frank knoll]

Well
The same if not better mobility
Root break, two if you spec into it reverse magic
Two immunities and ur defensive isn’t gimped if you get disarmed
Better self healing

[wheat jay]

What root break?

Am I missing something

[frank knoll]

Doesn’t vengeful retreat break roots

[wheat jay]

No

Its unusable when rooted

[frank knoll]

wtf

When did they change that

[wheat jay]

Its been that way at least since dragonflight

Most likely since shadowlands since I dont remember one ever escaping steel trap

[wheat jay]

One immunity, blur is only 20% dbts is 30%

Worse dmg profile

Self healing similar to warrior

[dense herald]

?

warrior has 0 self healing

[true tiger]

is there any way i can spend bloody tokens?i have every gearpiece from it

[dense herald]

only impending victory

[frank knoll]

You get meta immunity

[dense herald]

im always last in healing in arenas

[frank knoll]

Bladedance absorb shield

If you don’t need Ms

[fickle forge]

Arms has good self healing

[wheat jay]

For half a second every 2min, sure

[fickle forge]

Fury is mid

[frank knoll]

You also Dodge everything even stuff behind you and can use it disarmed

[dense herald]

dh is broken

well was

[fickle forge]

The skill check of DH is not dying in a stun

[frank knoll]

I’ve Meta immuned HOJs and shit before when I played it a lot during SL

[dense herald]

its good this season

[wheat jay]

???

Bruh

[dense herald]

dont tell me its not good

[wheat jay]

Its not

[dense herald]

its not the best but its not bad

[frank knoll]

It’s bad in 3s
Therefore people think it’s bad everywhere

[fickle forge]

It's not good

[dense herald]

iidk they do good dmg

n have blur which i hate

[wheat jay]

Easiest dmg profile to shut down lol

Blur is 20% wall and iirc you cant dodge when stunned

[frank knoll]

Meanwhile in Blitz DH is winning 5v1s and melting anything it’s touches

[fickle forge]

DH has like 0 rep cause it's ass

[wheat jay]

Cuz blitz is full of idiots all the way to 3k+

So noone even stuns a dh lmao

[dense herald]

warrior stun is 3s literally can only get 2 globals off

[wheat jay]

Nah, you save stun for sigil of flame

[frank knoll]

Assas rogue and frost mage gatekeeps DH in Arena and shuffle

[fickle forge]

It's pretty smooth brain to call a spec broken cause it does good into your spec

[wheat jay]

You see sigil and you insta stun

[wheat jay]

Lmao not even

[dense herald]

in df i once tried my luck with 50/50 mortal strike cuz dh had blur and i deleted him

[fickle forge]

🤷‍♂️

All dem DHs Q'ing shuffle

[frank knoll]

I basically go DH in shuffle and kill them in a smoke bomb every time

[wheat jay]

Ye cuz it's the squishest class in the game

[fickle forge]

Don't cap bro

[wheat jay]

Zero dmg reduction passives, zero bonus hp bonuses

[dense herald]

stop the cap

[frank knoll]

Does it not still have the 20% magic reduction passive

[wheat jay]

Oh wait there's one 5% magic dmg reduction iirc

[fickle forge]

DH is still the least killed dps spec in the game

[dense herald]

does it still not do insane self healing

[fickle forge]

It just gets raw dogged in stuns

[frank knoll]

It does insane self healing
Better even if you spec into Reaver cause you get more absorb shields too

[wheat jay]

Oh right, 10%

[frank knoll]

That’s relevant for almost every spec in the game

[wheat jay]

How can it be frequently killed if there any games with dh in them?

[frank knoll]

Perma passive D stance with no downside vs everything except warrior and hunter

[wheat jay]

And rogue

[fickle forge]

It's the % of times it dies first in a lobby

[wheat jay]

0%, zero dh, zero lobbies

[fickle forge]

And DH is sitting on 26.9% fb rate in 2.1k+ shuffle

That's the lowest of all dps specs in the game

[wheat jay]

Cuz it's easier to just shut it down lol

[frank knoll]

Sub and Assas do magic damage

[wheat jay]

It has 0 ways of dealing with cc, dmg is super easy to stop too

[fickle forge]

Cause DH isn't squishy at all bro

But it gets farmed by shit like WW, rogue, arms etc.

[wheat jay]

Ye tell that to fucking sub rogue 100-0ing me when I blur at 100%

[frank knoll]

Outlaw does pure phys but nobody in the US lays Outlaw
That’s a gay EU thing

[fickle forge]

Hardly anymore bro

Assassa is all bleeds and sub does shadow damage by choice

They can just opt out of it if they feel it

[wheat jay]

Highest rogues on na play outlaw

[green wharf]

he just told you to not tell him man

have mercy

[fickle forge]

I call out cap man

https://tenor.com/view/cap-doctor-meme-gif-23263243

[frank knoll]

DH base kit is better than fury
We can all agree when DH is overtuned the way fury is now it’s just the best melee in the game

[fickle forge]

Yeah we can

But it's also a dumb comparison

[wheat jay]

Mmmm

[fickle forge]

Because fury is the best melee right now while it's overtuned

[wheat jay]

I'd disagree

[rancid granite]

say overtuned one more time

[wheat jay]

Dh rn is too easy to shut down

It can do same dps on st as fury

[fickle forge]

DF season 3 and 4

[wheat jay]

Different dmg profiles

If dh stayed the same as it was in df it'd be op as fuck now

But with how it works now, its the easiest spec to shut down

You only need a stun on eye beam when there's sigil of flames

[fickle forge]

Brother the damage profile in DF was bps

Burst per second

Aka overtuned

[wheat jay]

Dude

Are you even reading my messages?

[fickle forge]

Yes, it's all tuning bro

[wheat jay]

IT IS EASY TO SHUT DOWN NOW

[fickle forge]

If they buffed up The Hunt tomorrow, you suddenly sit with a new damage profile

[wheat jay]

IF IT WAS THE SAME AS IN DF IT'D BE OP

[frank knoll]

If both Fury and DH were overtuned equally rn
DH would be better

[wheat jay]

No lol

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/solicy-angry-mode-typing-gif-gif-26124185

[wheat jay]

Fury is op cuz its overtuned and you cant stop the dmg

[fickle forge]

I've yet to lose to DH this season, it's just undertuned af

[wheat jay]

I'd smack you back to shadowlands

Ez

[fickle forge]

You would 100% die in stun + Demolish after you trinket my fear

[wheat jay]

Excuse me?

[frank knoll]

Yeah Fury just W keys
It’s impossible to make a mistake
We had a guy on here who was 2400 and didn’t even know when to use Dstance
Try that in SL or DF as fury lol

[wheat jay]

Id blur and still die cuz its rng and dh is squsihy lol

[wheat jay]

You could do that in SL on arms

And later on as fury

[frank knoll]

I’ve been playing Assas lately
I go out of my way to kill DH lol

[fickle forge]

That's been the case since always though

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[frank knoll]

But I might main DH next season idk

[fickle forge]

S-tier specs can make fundamental mistakes and still win

Same way you can trap dps on CD as BM and easily get 2.4k

You could probably unbind trap on BM and get 2.4k

Blizzard doesn't realise that nerfing trap for BM is just going to make it even easier to play

BM hunters are just gonna be trapping dps and then hit scatter on healers

[frank knoll]

I want Arms SL back please
@fickle forge my traps all either
missed or broke and I still easily met my rating goal as BM

I didn’t even know about diamond ice until I was unsubbed lol

[fickle forge]

Yeah it's just the way WoW is

If you're S tier, you can get away with whatever

[sand sundial]

theres no mmr/rating cap to who u can queue with in BGBs right?

[true tiger]

met that war with name ,,nicholasrage,, W name bro

[north thicket]

Do you keep both bolt and swave for eye beam while training the dh?

Rotating these^ since beam lower cd

[fickle forge]

I don't train DH generally

I swap them in stuns

I don't give too much of a damn about DH CDs cause they're pretty weak

[north thicket]

Hmmm so ignore eye beam, try to cleave dh and pick up a moment when half hp cc healer and kill the thing is a stun?

[fickle forge]

Idk what spec you're playing

But as arms, DH is the freest elo

Colossus especially

[wheat jay]

Colossus +ms and dh is 20% hp lol

[north thicket]

Fury both, gave up on Arms Col

[fickle forge]

I mean yeah as fury you can pretty much do the same

Build 5 stacks of SS and then just turn the DH in a stun

This is what I hit on Artji on his DH

[north thicket]

Wow, now that you are mentioning I don't specifically track SS strikes but send Rampage when available

[fickle forge]

You should do that too

But if you wanna swap, it's good to do

[north thicket]

Got it

[fickle forge]

The leather classes can be pumped pretty hard by warr in a stun

Cause they usually don't sit on any passive defensives

[north thicket]

Yes, indeed. I think I am making the mistake of bolting healer on cd which somewhat aligns with reck cuz of am

Not stunning the kill target often enough

[fickle forge]

You should always have for both on warr with shockwave

[north thicket]

Shockwave sucks unless w Colossus' Boneshaker? Maybe I am just biased tho

2sec feels like pseudo-interrupt rather than kill potental

[fickle forge]

Yeah well you're playing warrior though

If you can connect and do damage, you'll probably win

[sharp meteor]

its good for dmg in goes

sometimes dmg between cc doest matter

so u ca ramp up stacks the send stun or w/e ad blow somebody up

[hard scroll]

just coming back, with the new patch coming is arms going to end up being alright?

[thick reef]

can warrior beat paladin in a 1v1?

[verbal tangle]

First rule of brown class is fuck brown class

[verbal tangle]

Not unless they are 40 IQ

[hard scroll]

ya i didnt see any major changes that would move arms up too much just fury down

[inner sigil]

question, in a 1v1 situation does ww monk kick fury ass rn

[green wharf]

are you sure this damage isnt that high because its hitting artji instead of a DH?

[spice hornet]

warrior prob the worst 1v1 class in the game overall

[spice hornet]

yes lol

[green wharf]

unless you are prot

i think fury is a bit better, but you need to outplay the other guy hard

[urban skiff]

yes, if you're KT human and fighting on a pillar

[spice hornet]

and the paladin unplugs their keyboard and or monitor

[urban skiff]

nah

haymaker them off and they'll waste bubble to not die

[inner sigil]

U talking abt pally?

[green wharf]

all classes tbh

paladin is just cringe on x1 because they have bubble and other stuff

[urban skiff]

99% of warrior issues with paladin could be solved by picking up shattering throw and actually using it

[green wharf]

you sacrifice one talent to get a "casting skill"

meanwhile the paladin whoop your ass and use lay of hands

[urban skiff]

you know he's going to bubble, you use SR and shattering throw

Or leap and kite

[green wharf]

if ST was instant maybe would be a good counter

rn is best to leap and run away

but still isnt rly enough, cause the horse charges get you in no time

[urban skiff]

it's 1.5 sec baseline, effectively no difference from instant cast

except you have to stand still

[green wharf]

the cast time is enough to get behind the war and cancel it

i did on a paladin

[urban skiff]

"behind"?

[green wharf]

you need to be facing it

is like a normal spell

[urban skiff]

Sorry, that is a skill issue

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

casters almost never fail their casts when you walk behind them because they're turning

[torn sigil]

you can turn while casting it

[thick reef]

anyone have info about fury stat priority? atm i have like 16% haste out of combat, when pvp gear kicks in it's 18, such that my first rampage puts me at 20% haste, plus the enrage haste bonus. I wonder if this is correct? i would love to invest more in mastery

[green wharf]

you dont need that much if you are runing the enrage haste tlant

[north thicket]

Anyone playing with https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/sweepyboops-pvp-helper ? Any shortcomings compared to BetterBlizz?

[torn sigil]

too much for bgs

probably helps new player in arena

[north thicket]

Got it, thanks. Will try it out in bgs

[true tiger]

is there anyway to beat rogues 1v1

[urban skiff]

Sure, just roll up enh shaman

[green wharf]

depends on the class, but isnt that hard

having disarm already break then

[true tiger]

warrior

i beat every rogue w enha.but cant do a thing as warrior

[green wharf]

which spec

[idle falcon]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

@slow solstice I DID IT

i can die happy

[true tiger]

fury ofc

[slow solstice]

gz

[idle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-everybody-wanted-to-know-gif-3521629829174305713

[idle falcon]

<3

[green wharf]

fury should be able to win against some rogues cause regen, disarm and burst

[true tiger]

how many games did it take

[green wharf]

but prot is king

[idle falcon]

lemme check

[true tiger]

they also have disarm

[idle falcon]

dont know how many "games"

but these are the rounds

some people left early so take that into account when calculating

[true tiger]

thats actually not bad bro

[dense herald]

Ive beat rogues in 1vs1 but prob not very good ones

Stay in dstance and if u cant survive the opener wall,out of stun fear them then stun and use cds and bladestorm after stun so he cant disarm u

[fickle forge]

So much shuffle sheesh

I'd go crazy

[idle falcon]

For a week i had a losing streak

I kept wishing hellfire upon all casters

Was a dark time

XD

[true tiger]

1 shuffle counts as 6 rounds

its not that much

[fickle forge]

I'd go crazy

[idle falcon]

It's about 120 solo shuffle games

Give or take

[fickle forge]

120 times 40 min Q

[true tiger]

if u did like 2 3 shuffle games per day everyday since release

[fickle forge]

I'd go crazy

[true tiger]

ud have more

ive seen ppl with 4k rounds

[fickle forge]

Yeah they're animals though

Or healers bored all day

[idle falcon]

Real

[slow solstice]

i think the readon why im not playing shuffle is the wueues

its so cringud

[fickle forge]

There's pretty long between my shuffle sessions cause I cba waiting out the Q

[slow solstice]

you just get the jnflation hits + playing good?

[true tiger]

i be doing W pvp actions or other stuff during Q

[fickle forge]

I'm likely not touching shuffle until they announce season end so I can push R1

[lavish quest]

Idk what you guys are talking about. Sitting hour queues is so fun

[true tiger]

real

[idle falcon]

It's fun only if u have maxed proffesions

Like me

You just advertise and get 50k-100k gold between queues

Win win situation

[lavish quest]

I work on Taivan between queues

[idle falcon]

Most of my games are a healer issue

1 good healer

Other really bad

[fickle forge]

You shouldn't be affected by that, unless it's a 6-0 for the healer

[lavish quest]

Think that's what he means

[north thicket]

gz

Where does the queue time bottleneck starts in EU? ~2k mmr pretty okay but maybe 2.2+ queue times get longer or?

[fickle forge]

2.3k

[north thicket]

Got it

[fickle forge]

At least it did for my enh sham

[true tiger]

its so random tbh

there are days that i get queues in max 5 min

[idle falcon]

More like times

Usually i get more queues early in the morning

Like at 7 server time EU

Before people go to work

[urban skiff]

@warm fox what sandbag size should i get as my first?

there's 45 - 113

[fierce elm]

113

lmao

[urban skiff]

is that ok?

I feel like sandbag is the kind of implement where I'm going to vastly under or overestimate my own strength

[fierce elm]

its really heavy

online or pick up?

like delivery or not

[urban skiff]

no filling

[fierce elm]

Ooooh

I mean, I would see if you can grab free sand somewhere

[urban skiff]

I work with earth digger people

[lavish quest]

Umm, excuse me, this isn't pvp related

🤓

[urban skiff]

pretty sure there's zero issues getting free sand

they usually have to pay to get rid of excess materials

[fickle forge]

@fierce elm I've mastered ret pala bro

[fierce elm]

lmao chad

[dense herald]

Whats the best comp for warrior in mop

[urban skiff]

i want to say TSG

but kind of unsure

[fickle forge]

@urban skiff I'm back on enh

[urban skiff]

I just dinged my 2nd enh

[fickle forge]

Forget I tagged you vulpera man

[urban skiff]

3rd shaman underway too

@fickle forge rate my tank dh for blitz

[frank knoll]

Not as drippy as mine

[urban skiff]

My goal is for people to feel absolutely maximum amounts of anger whenever i kill them

[rancid granite]

seeing you kinda acts to pre-tilt them too you know

[urban skiff]

I can only hope

[rancid granite]

also lmao nice name for him

[fickle forge]

-10

[urban skiff]

came up with the name first and realized I had to make it

[fickle forge]

For being a tank

And -10 for being a DH

[urban skiff]

+100 for those abs

tbh

[frank knoll]

MM is either going to be broken OP or bad next patch

[fickle forge]

Love this season bro

[wheat jay]

Blitz?

[wheat jay]

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[fickle forge]

You ask why I don't take blitz seriously right @urban skiff

[urban skiff]

I mean, sure?

but also I don't take m+ seriously and they have higher ratings

[lavish quest]

M+ number =/= PvP number

[urban skiff]

blitz number =/= arena number

there, I fixed it. Now we can co-exist and I can stay braindead 🙂

[fierce elm]

Jealous

[lavish quest]

But different pvp numbers are 'supposed' to be comparable.

Going to M+ is comparing to another game

[fickle forge]

BIG damage bro

Insane button

[urban skiff]

they're not though

[lavish quest]

That's too much. Ion, can we get that nerfed?

[lavish quest]

'Supposed'

[sharp meteor]

Bigggggg.

[fickle forge]

The problem is they sign up to my LFG groups going "2.5k xp" and then I see they're 2k xp in 3s

Gotta sit here and detective my way out of whether this guy's actually somebody I wanna chill with

[urban skiff]

They're not supposed

[urban skiff]

Pretty sure that was a problem since shadowlands s1.

[rancid granite]

2.5k xp if team doesnt hold him back duh

[fickle forge]

Not to this extend

Now I got 10 more brackets I have to look through

[lavish quest]

Reward track says the opposite.

🤷‍♂️

[fickle forge]

Shuffle at least somewhat aligned with 3s, but blitz is a whole separate game

[fierce elm]

So one bracket more to look through

[fickle forge]

With 3 separate specs

[urban skiff]

So much gladiator mounts from blitz and 2v2

[lavish quest]

That supports my point. Blizz saying high end 3s isn't comparable to other pvp forms