pvp

[fickle forge]

Yes

[sour crag]

I wonder if I should just replace to spear permanently. I don't see Thunderouns Roar to do much difference other than extra DoT cleave (?)

[fickle forge]

It gives you 5% extra dam

Not terrible

But the DoT sucks for fury

[sour crag]

So why are so many using Roar according to murlok?

People dont like using the niche utility?

[copper fox]

People change their talents regularly in game. You can’t just look at that site and take it as is.
Roar is typically base but a lot of warriors are swapping to spear now

[verbal tangle]

Spear can also keep someone off a point while you go take it

[sour crag]

Well I'm specifically going for SS, but that's a good point

[copper fox]

Whether you want spear or roar can change each lobby

Based on what you’re playing against

[sour crag]

I mean if I can catch any net at a mage, I'll do it. Minding that I have Roar seems a bit pointless since my main focus is to keep up the Rampage rotation

And since one of my biggest issues is closing distances..

[copper fox]

Roar and pressing rampage don’t really have anything to do with each other

[sour crag]

Remind me what good Spear macros to use?

[sharp meteor]

why would u macro it

if u wanna @cursor in addition to standard bind sure but u will shoot it onto the roof 10% of the time

[sour crag]

I dunno, I was just checking if there were any useful macros to it. I'm rusty with the spear

[fickle forge]

Spear crit dam buff is pretty sick

But you actually gotta hit the thing

[sour crag]

Yeah I just realize it has a 1:30 min CD, gotta make it count

[fickle forge]

When you dodge the trap, but you take an unavoidable Scatter instead

[hot solstice]

there is free First berserker Kazhan demo available on steam for u Guts enjoyers

released few hours ago

[exotic forge]

Yeah I don't recommend any @ cursor macros tbh

chances are you stare at a ceiling

[sour crag]

Apparently mages can blink out of a spear, it seems

Or maybe they used a trinket, I dunno

[sharp meteor]

trinket doesnt affect spear

blinks and dashes do

assuming proper timing

[sour crag]

So better to maybe toss the spear after two blinks?

[copper fox]

no then you wouldnt need spear if he doesnt have blinks

lol

[sour crag]

I'm sorry, it's 3 in the morning and whuh

[slow solstice]

i have a cheat to climb

[copper fox]

say it

[rancid granite]

the more you play the better you get the better you get the more you climb

[slow solstice]

wtf do i hit here

[slow solstice]

dont play past 9

[copper fox]

spam disarm frost and kill it

well disarm cd

[slow solstice]

is uh tankier than frost

[copper fox]

no but you can stop more dmg from frost than you can from UH

[urban skiff]

what addon is this

[sharp meteor]

The default UI.

[urban skiff]

should i take a WFH day today and queue arenas all day?

[urban skiff]

the ground

[slow solstice]

go eep!

[urban skiff]

which has most impact in blitz? feral, fdk, fury, enh?

when duo'ing with an inexperienced healer*

[green wharf]

feral or fury i think?

[urban skiff]

fury for brawling in mid and hope someone else does objectives

feral for.. also brawling mid? But also stealth attack bases

[green wharf]

feral is busted and fury can do wonders with a pocket healer

[urban skiff]

fdk for brawling but also putting low-rank enemy healers in really really bad positions

[green wharf]

i wish i liked feral

last time i had fun with it was in mop

[urban skiff]

I fucking love feral, but i was just completely overloaded and didn't touch the class after they introduced the full talent trees

Suddenly there was a risk that I'd have to swap away from the dot playstyle and become a discount sub rogue

[urban skiff]

been trying to dip her toes into 2v2 and enh with a pock power infusion is also pretty cool

syeg you're EU right?

[green wharf]

nope

I play NA, cuz no brazilian servers

sometimes i get screwed by ping

[green wharf]

So, just had a ranked blitz now

flag match, we got 1x0

[urban skiff]

Man I'm so lost in how to gear up my fdk

everyone doing everything differently

[green wharf]

but the monk decided tot roll, and everytime we had the flag, and we killed the fc

instead fo capping, he drop the flag

we won, because 1x0, but still

why do you think you need to fuck up others game like this

[green wharf]

seems like mastery>2h, haste>dw

[urban skiff]

yeah but then some seem to be getting crit to some threshold i can't figure out what is supposed to be

and then you have to change stuff if going 2h vs dw

And I'd like to play deathbringer but it has like 400 - 1k less rating in all brackets

I can find a lot of guides but they're all from before nerfs to dw

[green wharf]

auto attack crit do the blasting ice shit in front of you

[urban skiff]

If I just want to stomp noobs until my wife gits gut, what do i play?

DW rider?

[green wharf]

honestly prob

you take much mor mileage from dw due to the horsemen spawning

buuuut

im no dk player

[green wharf]

[lavish quest]

Must been 300 games with the + 2 rating blitz gives

[green wharf]

i dunno how many, but it was a pain in the ass

and after getting, two matches of throw ina row

blizz rly dislike winning streaks

[frank knoll]

Yeah and play human, go double DPS trinket

[urban skiff]

Too late for race, already at max level and playing a really old character

[exotic forge]

How long do we have til next patch?

[sour crag]

Why do people queue SS as Protwarrior..?

I just..w hat?

[urban skiff]

to do big dam and harass mages

[sour crag]

since when can prot do damage?

[urban skiff]

since 11.0.1

[sour crag]

But this russian was in def stance the entire time. He shouldn't practially be doing nothing but whiffs and stuns

So why even bother?

[deft wharf]

Dstance no longer guts prot's damage

[sour crag]

People say qwe got till early february at earliest

So 3-4 weeks, ish

[fickle forge]

Buff arms

[copper fox]

I finished legend on my hm Tauren yesterday. So we got troll and that. Keeping the anti gnome dream alive

[green wharf]

REwork* arms

[fickle forge]

Will never happen

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-gif-3746287728568117387

[wheat jay]

best I can do is 20th hunter and demon hunter reworks

damn bro they really hunt for those changes

[exotic forge]

I have to get elite in shuffle asap then

[fickle forge]

It's not always a win to not cry brother

[wheat jay]

I cry whenever you refuse to q with me

Or play other games

[fickle forge]

I'm down to Q beast cleave I mean

[elfin surge]

[sour crag]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-climbing-jump-fail-gif-11858206

[elfin surge]

@sour crag how many shuffle games do you have this seas

[elfin surge]

damn you love shuffle

[sour crag]

It's been all I've been doing for the past days, with some plunderstorm and gymming just to keep myself sane.

[elfin surge]

Would you consider yourself a shuffle enjoyer?

[sour crag]

I mean, this is my first season I heavily go SS, mainly because I'm tired of premades. I'm a loner anyway

[elfin surge]

Do you play any 3s?

[sour crag]

Nope. Too complex for my little brain. Used to go 2s.

Even if I would, it's a bit too late to start climbing in 3s for the first time ever, I think. Maybe if it was at the start or mid of the season, otherwise eh.

[elfin surge]

Why do you think it's too late?

[exotic forge]

Damn I don't think I have that many shuffle rounds myself lol

[sour crag]

because we got only a few weeks before the season potentially ends and I kinda wanna finish the other Pve Curves, hopefully.

I've gotten slighty better in SS, I think. I'll just be happy if I get 3/6 or 4/6 either by luck or accidents.

Whatever that doesn't put me on minus.

By the way, how is Fury looking for Season 2? Strong or nerfed?

[fickle forge]

Nobody knows man

[lavish quest]

Fury is a warrior spec, and thus will be trash

Because woyer

[green wharf]

our moment in the sun was in the beggining of the patch

before the enrf hammers

now is joever

[slow solstice]

i think i like shuffle

[dense herald]

[elfin surge]

[sour crag]

Gods I remember when Execute could be talented as a charge.

Was fun

[dense herald]

blizz trolling

[slow solstice]

!

[dense herald]

back in my day aaah message

shadowlands was 4 years ago thats actually insane

[sour crag]

I think it was also back in BfA, no?

[wheat jay]

Might as well before survi is nuked in 11.1 xD

[dense herald]

it was shadowlands where you would play condemn and just spamm it with the execute now charges you talent

then it got nerfed it got a cd

like every 4 seconds or osmething

[fickle forge]

You're gonna like it anyway as per usual

[wheat jay]

I don't even like it now man

Its not fun xD

You tried it yourself few days ago

Remind me your impression of new survi?

[slow solstice]

OMG I MISSED MY QUEUE

FUCKKKK

[green wharf]

get rekt nerd

[wheat jay]

Noob lol

[slow solstice]

its fine im up 60

[exotic forge]

It was a 20 yd charge Execute

Usable while rooted and snared

Then they nerfed it where you could no longer Execute far away while rooted

Then they added the 6 sec cd to the charge before removing the ability entirely

[copper fox]

Bum behavior

[fickle forge]

God remember this golden moment @fierce elm @wheat jay ?

[sour crag]

Just.. HNNNFNDFDFDFDFDF

[copper fox]

It’s the perfect time to play 3s with it’s current “inflation”. Early season way harder

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge best timing ever lmao

[sour crag]

I faced arms and retri

The moment I step into 1800 I get tossed off like a used condom

also faced a BM

[copper fox]

Your damage is way too low for a lobby like that where you should have almost 100% uptime

[sour crag]

It's like I faced all bursties at once.

Well I kept trying headbashing Arms

[copper fox]

Arms is probably the worst kill target for you there lol

[sour crag]

I thought Arms sucked

did I underestimate them?

[copper fox]

Yea at killing things

[fickle forge]

Arms doesn't really suck, but fury is better

It definitely outcleaves

[sour crag]

Okay so

if they Bladestorm, theirs is more powerful than mine?

[fickle forge]

You have the stronger Bladestorm as slayer

[sour crag]

I just litterarly went Kamehameha clash with this guy.

[copper fox]

No they have sweeping strikes

And bleeds

That’s why you lost every round

You picked arms as your target

In that lobby

[sour crag]

Once again I am at the questions what targets to train.

I know there's retri there but maaan.

[copper fox]

Ret > arms

[fickle forge]

Trynna train a class that takes perma 15% less dam is questionable

[copper fox]

You go ret or you go bm when the arms is on their team

You can swap off BM temporarily if you’re kited without mobility but just strafe attack the arms

[fickle forge]

If the arms is colossus, then it's def a dumb train target

[copper fox]

Yea

[sour crag]

How do I know it's a collossus? Doesn't appear anywhere

[copper fox]

They have no freedom since disc x2 so you can’t def go hunter there

Did he press demolish?

[sour crag]

No idea

[copper fox]

If yes -> col

[fickle forge]

Demolish

[sour crag]

I was too busy staring at the healthbar and mashing whatever wasn't on cd

[copper fox]

There’s your first issue. You need to up the awareness

After round 1 you can check

What he pressed

On meters

Takes 3 seconds

[sour crag]

Also it was on the zandalar arena, which is my least favorite arena to fight regardless

[fickle forge]

Either way, the lobby was in your favour

Regardless of map

[sour crag]

Wellp

Nice to know I fucked up majorly then.

[fickle forge]

It's a ret lobby, but you can def beat out the arms and BM here

[sour crag]

Problem is:
1: Making a premade group takes forever because people want me to be godlike guaranteed with experience.
2: Eveyrthing comes to a grinding halt timewise the moment someone quits after one match.
3: Voicechat is ew.

I'm a lonely guy, I have no pvp friends to even form a steady group with.

It's why I chose SS, making my issues simpler to deal with.

[deft ridge]

its what SS is there for, nothing wrong with that

[slow solstice]

i was watching yt

[wheat jay]

i was in the same boat

so i slithered my way into 2.5k group

EZ

[sour crag]

Good for oyu

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/shreks-meme-gif-14773907558805575638

do the same

befriend some high rated people

[sour crag]

Will you be my friendo? 🙏

We can share netflix

[wheat jay]

i got netflix

and i was the low xp guy

@fickle forge this is my booster 👍

[fierce elm]

: )

[sour crag]

Remind me what elesham spells I should kick? Stormbreaker?

[urban skiff]

You can play turbocleave with me and my wife in 3s

if you're eu

[sour crag]

I am, yeah

But I'm too afraid to start from square one this late in the season

I've focused too much on Solo to come this far

[urban skiff]

You're not starting anything, you're continuing on your path to learning

[sour crag]

I don't even know how 3s works.

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/y70ZZEOw9S0

[sour crag]

Do I still train stuff?

[urban skiff]

Go watch this at the very least

it's easy to digest and puts a lot of things into words that people have developed intuitive knowledge about over the years but have trouble vocalizing

[sour crag]

Kay, I'm watching

Still, is 3s like SS but just more composed?

[urban skiff]

It's a lot more sweaty people

but you get to practice with the same people so lots of unknowns are suddenly the same from game to game

[sour crag]

So I'm lookin at the nagrand map and I can already tell none of this applies to SS, it seems.

people run wherever the enemy is regardless of position

[urban skiff]

not always

It might feel that way, it might be that they don't play around the map consciously like this. It doesn't change that you learn this skill and you'll have a lot more control over the fight: You'll know where to drag them if they target you, you'll know how to identify someone who is in a vulnerable position

[sour crag]

Still, if I play accordingly to position while the other two of mine don't...

I can type, I swear

[urban skiff]

I mean, they can do what they want

but it'll help you identify which of your team mates will be easier to handle when you're against them 🙂

You need to use your imagination, you're seeing limits instead of possibilities

[sour crag]

It's funny how the boralus arena is one I tend to fail a lot as melee, despite being considered a melee arena.

Especially when monks like to run laps around the pillars

shame the vid doesn't bring up the zandalar arena, which is the one I struggle most with

Like, should I remain on the bottom floor always as melee?

it's confusing

[rancid granite]

adapt to the match there's no other answer

also worst map of all time

[sour crag]

no kidding

[rancid granite]

its fun watching locks try to do some 4d next dimension juking strat

just to juke their own team and themselves

[sour crag]

@urban skiff Suppose I would be interested in teaming up for 3s, when would you go next time?

[urban skiff]

We're about to head out for a weekend trip, will be back sometime tomorrow at the earliest

[sour crag]

Kay

is voicechat required?

[urban skiff]

not if you don't want

we're talking danish and coordinating a lot already

[sour crag]

Well as long you just point and say "sic 'em", that's all I need 😄

[dense herald]

guyss

do i go elemental or ascendance

[fickle forge]

Depends on if you wanna optimise or not

[urban skiff]

if you want fun you go with the good build

if you want power you go stormbringer + ascendance or elementalist + totemic

[dense herald]

bro im warrior

ik u think thane 1 hander is same as enh

[urban skiff]

i like double lens

[fickle forge]

Ascendance is BiS

[frank knoll]

I think rogue might be kinda bad in 11.1

And shaman will reign supreme

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-cope-harder-saul-goodman3d-better-call-saul-saul-goodman-gif-24033192

[frank knoll]

Stone bulwark undispellable

Ur gonna see a lot of enhance and ele rerollers

[green wharf]

thy are going to remove their defense CD

[rancid granite]

has there ever been a season in WoW history rogue was bad

aren't they the one class that's always got something goin on lol

[ebon shale]

Lmao 😂

[fierce elm]

They do

even bad rogue has good ass matchups

[rancid granite]

or at least in 3's if not ss but yeah

[sour crag]

Gym done, time for more blind queues

https://tenor.com/view/climbing-walking-too-fat-fat-dog-hopping-gif-14133352

[copper fox]

Did you deadlift

[sour crag]

Nah, did chest and upper back

[frank knoll]

Rogue has no more bleed removal for restealth 😝

[fierce elm]

That will surely gut it

s u r e l y

Like Outlaw doesnt have infinite vanishes lmao

Rogue is def losing some pvp talents, but yeah it aint ever dying

[fickle forge]

Restealthing as a rogue is a meme now

You're not dps'ing and you got 20 other ways to enter stealth

[urban skiff]

Enh gonna be in a weird spot. Might not be a good spot

[urban skiff]

Losing ancestral guidance is going to hurt immensely

[verbal tangle]

Dwarf moment

[sour crag]

Me when my relatives disowned me due to long distance disconnection.

[frank knoll]

How am getting hit for 2 mil rushing wind kicks by Fist Weavers

[sharp meteor]

punchy can do big dam

[sour crag]

Climbyclimb..

[true tiger]

i love when i kill someone with warmode on and then they whisper something toxic

[chilly pivot]

whats the optimal defensive stance usage? like...

1. when 2 targets its on you even if u at 90%+ hp
2. when under 35% hp even if they hitting you or not
3. everytime your healer are in CC even if u at 100% hp

like give me some good thinking over use defensive stance xd

[fickle forge]

Under pressure = D
Doing pressure = B

Into stuff like deva+BM I pretty much never leave Dstance till we do a go

[chilly pivot]

ok 🙂

[chilly pivot]

feels like i lose to much dmg sitting def stance to often

idk

maby its worth it

[fickle forge]

The tradeoff is equal

15% for 15%

[chilly pivot]

yeah but now i go def stance everytime my healer are in a CC even if im at 100% hp

and nobody hitting me xd

just to be safe if they swapping me

but maby not worth

[fickle forge]

You can just swap back

3 sec CD

Better to pre-wall a go than to get in 50k more dam or w/e

[chilly pivot]

yeah maby true 🙂

[fickle forge]

Into these unhealable comps I camp Dstance if I'm trained

And then swap out when we got pressure

[chilly pivot]

yeah maby allways sit def stance if 2 ppl have target on you

[fickle forge]

I wouldn't always

Some comps you can get away with doing more pressure

[chilly pivot]

if u go under 35% hp , allways def stance no matter what?

[dense herald]

yea

once healer in cc always dstance

and if they are popping cds on u dstance

[chilly pivot]

yeah, so basicly, if im under 50% hp and 2 targets hitting me, its good time to just sit defstance?

[ebon shale]

I made it to 1950 never using defensive stance, ever

It’s for the weak

[chilly pivot]

its littlebit harder here xd

[rancid granite]

same til i bound stance swap to ~ key; then i just use it when i feel like i need it :)

when you're getting rocked and your healer is laggin and cooldowns aren't up

[sharp meteor]

its for people tryna live

[copper fox]

Bruh what is this ss

[dense herald]

here is no queue

help

[elfin surge]

[sharp meteor]

just lose more so u get faster queues lol

or play bad specs (not fury)

[frank knoll]

Dude you got 2400 without knowing when to use Dstance
That’s awesome

[copper fox]

😏

[sour crag]

I mean, I barely use def stance myself

I'm too busy tunneling

I should use def more, tbh

[frank knoll]

I need to pick fury back up lol
I only play warrior anymore when Arms is good

But if it’s that easy lol

[chilly pivot]

haha ye, First time playing an expantion higher then cataclysm, thats why i come with alot stupid questions, just try to learn this game, but im a warrior lover and played all expantions only warrior but never higher then cata like i said

[pastel swan]

I did a mountain thane build last night. It seemed to crank

Even tho I do slayer

It was in 2s as well so it wasn’t cleaving a ton

[chilly pivot]

i go thane against melee and slayer against casters / kiteing comps

works really fine

[pastel swan]

Do u keep the same gear on

[chilly pivot]

yea'

[pastel swan]

Ya decided to try it bc a warr was hitting for over a million lightning things and rampages or maybe it was bloodthirst Idr

[chilly pivot]

on dummy atm

[pastel swan]

Is the rotation the same

With addition to the lightning things

[chilly pivot]

almost the same

i just do more BT then raging blow as thane thats all

[pastel swan]

Why is that? Irdk

[chilly pivot]

its hitting like a truck xd

and u can have this

this 3 togather feels nice

cant see why i shoult not prio BT

[exotic forge]

No thirst for battle, otherwise it'd be bis

[frank knoll]

Thane is fun af in a BG scenario like Gilneas or AB

I’m don’t know if this is still a thing
But the lightning strikes would proc the observer warlock thing

[green wharf]

when i was doing shuffle, i was able to land BT with 2~3m damage

with those talents

funny shit i ever saw was the mage, waiting to blink back and get full hp

but one bloodthirst and he was sent into the shadow realm

[chilly pivot]

haha yee

like i dont have time For raging blow becous its allways something better ready to use

[slow solstice]

?

that doesnt not sound correct

[dense herald]

You shouldnt play thane unless ur cleaving its not that good

Also you shoulsnt bt more than raging blow

Raging blow cause lightning strikes and increse the dmg of ur next rampage which does huge dmg cuz of the 30% buff from thane

[slow solstice]

bt always does less than rb at 1 target

[dense herald]

Shady pls dont waste talent points on vicious contempt its useless

Execute is better

And raging blow >bt it does alot more dmg u just dont see it cuz that damage is going into rampage and lightning strikes

Also rampage does 50% of ur dmg as thane so its better to buff it u can hit 2mil rampages

[chilly pivot]

BT to

[slow solstice]

bro

bt sucks

[chilly pivot]

its giga

[patent forum]

BT doesn’t suck as thane

[dense herald]

Yeah but rb is jist better

[chilly pivot]

not as thane

[patent forum]

It literally does the most dmg behind rampage

[dense herald]

It is

[slow solstice]

bt is bad

hello

[patent forum]

Lol

[slow solstice]

rb has too many modifiers

[patent forum]

BT does more damage as thane

And it procs the thane shit

What’re you on

[slow solstice]

what am i on

[dense herald]

Iirc rb does lightning strikes

Not bt

[slow solstice]

im on the robot is correct

[dense herald]

And rb buffs ur rampage which hits like a truck as thane

[patent forum]

It’s not like you don’t press rb

[north thicket]

It doesn't proc the thane shit but one may prioritize if it glows with Burst of Power, otherwise rb

[patent forum]

But you press BT a lot

[dense herald]

No u dont

Ur doing rotation wrong

[chilly pivot]

xd

[patent forum]

BT procs thunder blast

[dense herald]

Bro look at wowhead guide for rotation

[slow solstice]

no you dont

[patent forum]

Oh this is bait

[slow solstice]

they dont know how to read

@thick reef when can i start

https://tenor.com/view/inside-out-anger-characters-gif-25501912

[dense herald]

Bro rb>bt for st

[slow solstice]

they dont know how to listen to a robot

who says rb > bt in st and bt > rb +2

[north thicket]

I've actually tested it myself BT > RB always (outside Bursts of Power)

It sucks

You can feel it on the dmg dummy

[patent forum]

Foreal

[slow solstice]

bro

[patent forum]

Just hit dummy

Dude is citing wow head

Is this rage bait?

[slow solstice]

?

[dense herald]

if u look at pve rotation

[slow solstice]

im citing rotation

[dense herald]

which is basicly what ur doing in pvp

bro

[slow solstice]

this guy cant be human

[dense herald]

meech ur ragebaiting

[slow solstice]

right

SURELY

PVPERS CANT BE THIS DUMB

HAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHA

[dense herald]

meech whats ur cr

it will improve if u prioritise rb

[patent forum]

2.4

I don’t prio BT but to say it sucks as thane is wild

[slow solstice]

IT SUCKS

BRO

[patent forum]

It does as much damage as my rampage in most games

[north thicket]

Holy shit

[dense herald]

then youre doing your rotation wrong

[slow solstice]

that doesnt mean anything if you are just pressing it more

[dense herald]

BRO MEECH

[slow solstice]

like what

[dense herald]

PLS DONT SPREAD MISINFORMATION

YOU CAN SEE HERE RB CAUSES LIGHTNING STRIKE NOT BT

[slow solstice]

he cant

[dense herald]

SO if u press rb instead of bt,you will do 400k dmg instead of 500k and you will hit an 800k lightning strike and buff your next rampage by 20% which already hits like a truck

which part of that do you not understand

[slow solstice]

all

[chilly pivot]

bt ❤️

[patent forum]

What kind of BT are you throwing as thane

That it hits for 400k

[slow solstice]

i dont think they know how to do damage on fury

[dense herald]

ive been playing fury in pvp and pve for 4-5 years

[patent forum]

K what’s your cr

[slow solstice]

how much do you want to be they press tb unraged

[copper fox]

The fury that presses bt more probably lost ngl

[dense herald]

2.6k

[slow solstice]

2280

95 mythic parser

[copper fox]

Mines almost 2.7 and ain’t no one pressing bt that much up there cus we know the truth

[slow solstice]

like what

cr doesnt mean you know how to do damage

[dense herald]

meech tryina sound smarter than r1 raiders

[patent forum]

I’m not, I’m just going off my experience. BT just does more damage as thane than RB. Not saying I prio it

But you guys are making it sound like it’s bad to ever hit it lol

[dense herald]

this was on pvp dummy,and no the raging blow did not crit,so it did more damage than the bt,buffs my rampage and has chance to cast a lightning strike

[slow solstice]

in terms of raw damage you are wrong

rb will always do more than bt at 1 target

[dense herald]

ok meech do you even know why it does more damage,cuz it procs off your ravager

[slow solstice]

bt sucks

[north thicket]

I would press BT with Bursts of Power, think it's worth it then

[dense herald]

thats why it might seem it does more dmg

[copper fox]

I only press bt during wall or @ 5 stacks

Or as a filler if everything is on cd but that’s rare

[slow solstice]

you dont even track bursts of power

bt just sucks to press

[north thicket]

'When it glows' 🙂

[dense herald]

even during burst of power id rather press RB

cuz it buffs my rampage

[green wharf]

[dense herald]

and rampage hits like a TRUCK

[chilly pivot]

hmm

[north thicket]

Murlok Thane Solo Shuffle

VC is rarely taken > BT is of low priority

[slow solstice]

if you take vc

you are trolling

[north thicket]

Although 2mil BT aren't rare

[slow solstice]

🙂

[dense herald]

thats not thane btw

thane uses ravager instead of bladestorm

[copper fox]

What

[chilly pivot]

just use bt For best dmg as thane

[copper fox]

That’s extremely situational

[dense herald]

idk i use ravager

[slow solstice]

stop

[copper fox]

“Thane takes ravager” is false

[dense herald]

damn

[copper fox]

Thane takes whatever makes sense

[dense herald]

ive been playing wrong build

[copper fox]

In pvp

[dense herald]

?

[slow solstice]

yeah take bs

[north thicket]

I would delete the game if I have to use Ravager in pvp

[slow solstice]

its good for roots

[copper fox]

Bs in pvp brother

[north thicket]

Jesus

[dense herald]

wait no ik why i took ravager

[exotic forge]

Gonna use SMF with this one, thanks

[dense herald]

i came back to the game less than a week ago and i saw thane being good again and copied the build from the highest ranked player

[copper fox]

M+ player?

[slow solstice]

prob

kek

[copper fox]

lol

Ain’t no pvp player missing bs

[north thicket]

Gio, why is VC so bad? Tbh I feel the talent is bugged somehow

[wheat jay]

I can't understand why thane doesn't play re

[dense herald]

sometimes,havent done much this season but i stopped playing b4 they buffed thane

[slow solstice]

wdym bugged

vc is bad because bt is bad

[copper fox]

Yea vc sucks

Never take

[exotic forge]

[dense herald]

last time i took VC was df s2

[patent forum]

idk man

[dense herald]

man when u played 2 button spec

[north thicket]

But it could fill the gap between 35% and 20% (since Thane doesn't play Massacre)

[dense herald]

u just pressed bt

[patent forum]

just hit the dummy while actively avoiding hitting BT unless i had nothing else to press

[dense herald]

and rampage

[dense herald]

im teklling u rb better

just stop

[patent forum]

230 rb casts to 74 bt

[dense herald]

it buffs ur rampage and ur rampage hits like a truck

[patent forum]

yeah im hitting RB prio here

[dense herald]

did u use vicious contempt

[patent forum]

only hitting BT when i didnt have another global

[chilly pivot]

so BT

[patent forum]

yeah i did

[dense herald]

its nerfed in pvp

[exotic forge]

BT is your filler when RB is on cd anyways

[dense herald]

its 7%

[chilly pivot]

oh okey

[patent forum]

i understand that

but numbers are numbers

230 vs 74

to say that BT is bad is just not correct

as thane8

[slow solstice]

it is

compared to rb

[patent forum]

but that wasnt the original argument

[chilly pivot]

i prio BT last 2 weeks, not even close to lose dmg to another warrior i face

[exotic forge]

It almost sounds like you're comparing BT to something like Slam

ngl

[patent forum]

go hit the dummy

just like i did

report back

play thane with vicious contempt

[slow solstice]

you have to be stupid or what

like actually

[patent forum]

only hit BT when you dont have anything else to hit

[slow solstice]

you have to be stupid

[patent forum]

name calling instead of trying it and reporting back

k

[exotic forge]

What a nice argument

[slow solstice]

so hours of hitting dummy before dont count

[patent forum]

i mean i just posted my details

[slow solstice]

when ive already played tens of hours of thane

[patent forum]

explain it to me hten

[slow solstice]

rb does more damage at 1 target than bt

what else is there

like what

[exotic forge]

Do you ever not press BT

like at all

even outside of Thane

Genuine question

[slow solstice]

to extend enrage or nothing else to press

thats the only time you press bt

[patent forum]

BT

[slow solstice]

every other time is a damage loss

[patent forum]

RB

im just looking for an explanation

[exotic forge]

But you still press BT

That's the whole point

[patent forum]

exactly

youre saying BT is bad to press ever

[exotic forge]

You just proved his point mate

[patent forum]

like i dont get it

[exotic forge]

It's like saying "I don't ever press BT during Regen"

[green wharf]

people forgetting bt also refresh enrage

[slow solstice]

this doesnt account that rb increases rampage damage or has infinitely more modifiers than bt

[copper fox]

Your overall damage will be lower if you press bt more

That’s it

[reef sorrel]

Lol^

[copper fox]

It’s a fact brother

[exotic forge]

You still press BT but you don't prioritize it over RB

Case put to rest

[slow solstice]

thats not what that guy was saying

[dense herald]

thats hits bro

rb hits twice

so its 115 casts of rb

also ur doing aoe ofc bt gonna do more

[patent forum]

im not doing aoe

thats on a single target dummy

anyways

[exotic forge]

Prioritizing BT = Overall damage will be lower
Prioritizing RB = Overall damage will be higher

[patent forum]

ill do what i do

^

[exotic forge]

What else is he saying?

[dense herald]

ull be higher rating if u dont do what you do

you can go to fury pve channel and ask

[patent forum]

i literally said i prio RB but i still press BT

and people here freaked out like hitting BT ever was bad

that was the original argument

[dense herald]

u said u press bt more than rb

[patent forum]

that wasnt me

scroll uip

[chilly pivot]

i allways prio BT over Raging blow in Thane, its feel so good with that big BT crits

[copper fox]

lol

[slow solstice]

lol

me when im wrong and like doing 0 damage

[dense herald]

nvm then

[patent forum]

what part of what i said isnt true

[dense herald]

but u said bt cast lightning strike which is false

^

[patent forum]

nah

i said it procs thunder blast charges

[dense herald]

oh

nvm then

[patent forum]

idk why this gio dude is trying to fight lmao

all i said was BT isnt bad to hit as thane

thats all guys

[dense herald]

its not but rb>bt always

[patent forum]

a nice 1.5 mil BT crit feels good sometimes ya know

never argued against that

[dense herald]

yk what feels nice,spamming rb with huge 800k lightning strike into 1.5mil rampage

[chilly pivot]

even with BT procc so it has 0 cd?

[copper fox]

This guy presses bt way too much

Guaranteed

[dense herald]

uhh idk then but dont prioritise rb over bt,u can use bt then cuz it deals 35% more dmg

[slow solstice]

you dont track it

you ignore that buff

you just do your rotation

[chilly pivot]

Slayer: Onslaught > rampage > execute > RB > BT
Thane: Onslaught > rampage > execute > Thunder > RB > BT
?

[dense herald]

is it smart idea putting ur bars at the bottom,i wanted toput my bars at the bottom so middle of my screen opens up more but i keep looking if i like have OP up or i have to press slam

this is my pve char dont mind the buttons u see

[green wharf]

i prioritize thundrblast over everything

except rampage

[slow solstice]

tb if you have stacks before avatar > ramp to enrage > tb while enraged > ramp > onslaught > rb < execute < bt < tc

[rancid granite]

looks like a toddler setup your hotkeys for you

[dense herald]

bro wdym

my keybinds r perfect

[rancid granite]

op/executre on Q and E with rend/ms on 1 and 2 are is WILD

[patent forum]

Storm bolt on shift x is wild

What’s your focus sb

Or do you have small hands

[rancid granite]

shift 1 is even worse thats what i used back in vanilla when i was in my youth; it'd break my fingers using it now

[dense herald]

this is my orc (pvp) warrior

[rancid granite]

i appreciate how certain abilities have their key

at least

lmao

[patent forum]

Spear on f seems wasteful

F is so good

[summer root]

kick on V is odd imo. lol

[dense herald]

bro idk what u dislike about my keybinds,i changed kick from shift 2 to V cuz id sometimes accidently use kick instead of RB

[dense herald]

?????????

[rancid granite]

zxcv are good keys imo

[dense herald]

thats literally the least odd about my keybinds

iits close to my thumb

i can press it quickly

[rancid granite]

having main skills are for 1-5, but you set them to Q and E IT BUGS ME

[dense herald]

i might put focus kick on shift v but idk whyd i ever use focus kick as warrior

[dense herald]

bro wdym

[patent forum]

How do you do your focus binds

[dense herald]

sometimes i press heroic leap instead of execute thats a problem

[rancid granite]

lol

[dense herald]

i dont have on warrior

i prob should but i dont have any more keybinds and i dont want to waste keybinds like Z which i have to get my weapon out

shift Z is battle shout but i have it macrod so it cancels bladestorm

[summer root]

i use E and Shift E for kicks

[dense herald]

Where else would i set them 1-5 already taken

Man it used to be worse i used to have q bt e rb r rampage or something like that idr

[summer root]

i use 1-6, charge isnt on those. not a rotational ability

[rancid granite]

tclap can go on 6 i guess

[dense herald]

6 is not comfy to press

[rancid granite]

or F if fury

[dense herald]

I mean i can press it without moving my arm but its unnatural keybind

[rancid granite]

yeah i use it for tclap on arms, bt on fury i got used to it i guess lol

[patent forum]

How are you hitting shift x

[rancid granite]

op/ms and rb/rampage should be next to eachother

[patent forum]

I can’t do it without my hand contorting like a gymnast

[rancid granite]

its purely an ocd thing

[patent forum]

Wanna really fuck with your ocd?

[dense herald]

I got weird move with mouse like i dont like spamming 1 thats why i have bt there,cuz id have to move up my ring finger if i want to spam something id spam it woth my middle finger i can still move forward with mouse

[dense herald]

And i dont have strafe bound i just use A and D and mouse click to strafe

[patent forum]

You’re lying

[dense herald]

Im not

[rancid granite]

isnt that pretty normal

[dense herald]

Q for rampage is wild

Shift tab for rampage is wild

[patent forum]

Q feels good to press idk

[dense herald]

For slam

[patent forum]

Well I’m never pressing slam

[rancid granite]

wish i could remember the pro who uses the alt-7 keybinding or w/e lol

[patent forum]

<doesnt pve

[dense herald]

Pikachu uses kick on space

[dense herald]

Are u trolling me why do u have seperate kebinds for whirlwind and tc

If u play tc you NEVER whirlwind

Unless ur spamming for a rogue but thats lije 1 in 1k games

[summer root]

they're both always on the bars for every spec i play. muscle memory

[patent forum]

Just in case buddy

[dense herald]

I have different keybinds on diff specs i should fix that

Like on hunter i have turtle on T,on paladin i have flash of light on 2 which is crazy

[rancid granite]

man i use jump all the time in pvp wth what a psycho

[rancid granite]

huh why not; grab imp ww... more cleave

[dense herald]

Why do u have bshout on G,G is such an easy button to press

[dense herald]

Huh

[patent forum]

Battle shout lasts an hour bro

Put it on f12 psycho

[pastel swan]

Pika’s keybinds are fried as shit

[dense herald]

Bro be spamming it mid game

[dense herald]

Pikachu or pikaboo

[summer root]

Always been on G, even back when it had a 2min duration

[pastel swan]

Pikaboo

[dense herald]

U been playin since vanila or

Or 2019 vanilla

[pastel swan]

Hell say shit like “this looks like a shift 0, alt 7, shift R, control z, alt x situation”

It’s probably comfortable for him, but idk lol

Or he has stuff mapped efficiently that we can’t see

[summer root]

been on warrior since wotlk

[dense herald]

Alt 7 and shift 0 he presses on razer naga tho

So its not weird

Or the corsair mouse idk what he use

[pastel swan]

Im not quoting exactly but if you’ve heard it you know what I mean hahah

[green wharf]

yall wanna see my binds

[pastel swan]

He’s cracked, so he could hit whatever he wants and be awesome

[summer root]

turtle on Y is crazy. lmao

[pastel swan]

I met a hunter once who had every bind on his naga 1 through 12 regular, control, shift, and alt mods

My hand would fall off

[green wharf]

i have big hands, if isnt like this i cant control

[pastel swan]

I have all my major defensives on Y, H, B. But I use ESDF bc I also have big hands so it’s easy

[summer root]

i dont use anything passed T G V

[pastel swan]

Valid for WASD ppl

ESDF opens up more binds if ur hand can fit and is more comfortable imo. Its all subjective

[summer root]

Fair, seen some use those

[pastel swan]

Yeah. I’m a leftie

[slow solstice]

holy

[pastel swan]

So using keyboard for majority of my stuff comes more naturally

[green wharf]

i wanted to use the extra keyboard buttons

like the ones you use for volume, skip

mute

but i dunno how

[chilly pivot]

do u track marked for execution ?

[slow solstice]

target debuff

wa or plater

[chilly pivot]

but its worth allways stack it to 3 ?

[slow solstice]

if you want the most damage out of your execute

yeah

https://wago.io/ZTGWfik5P

[chilly pivot]

i dont understand how the stack work xd

ty

[slow solstice]

you get it from doing your rotation

its a random haste rppm

[fickle forge]

You can't really miss the stacks unless you let the SD buff run out

[slow solstice]

^

in most cases you get sd with 3 mfe

[chilly pivot]

i just spam execute whenever is ready

maby i should hold it until 3 stacks?

[slow solstice]

if you want to do more damage

probably

i think in pvp i only spam rampage during cds and someone has 0 defensives

otherwise i do normal rotation

[chilly pivot]

nah not worth holding execute until 3 stacks

lose more dmg then just spam it when ready

[slow solstice]

i mean sure

do less damage for fun

[fickle forge]

When is Blizz gonna end the fury bias though

[slow solstice]

never

arms needs to be shot in the head

[fickle forge]

Average 20 IQ fury warr reply

[chilly pivot]

2 min hitting the dummy, 1 is rotation with BT prio, other one with RB prio over BT hmm

[wheat jay]

Pvp needs to be shot in the head

Put the animal out of its misery

Or give free glad mounts

Ohhh btw

M+ got 2nd mount

For 2800 m+ score

[slow solstice]

^

make these glad mounts and a way to get old elite sets

[fickle forge]

I have a hard time understanding why Blizz nerfed OP and EP by 66%, but they let Slaughtering Strikes buff Rampage by 100%

[green wharf]

imagine trying to understand blizz balance logic

where is the image that says enrage is no longer an enrage skill

[wheat jay]

Ahh yes vicoous saddle

I got like 40 left

From shadowlands

[green wharf]

how fucking long is the paladin cd

of the stun

[fickle forge]

45

[wheat jay]

Wasnt it shorter when you spam spenders?

Or sth like that

[fickle forge]

Got reworked

[green wharf]

no way is just that

dude just got ttwo in like 30 sec

or less

how a 6 sec stun is just that

just lost a flag bg with a monk to a paladin

[fickle forge]

It's dispelable so

[torn sigil]

and reflectable

if you have big pressure when you know its coming off cd or you see him popping cds you know hes gonna do it

very predictable

[green wharf]

[sharp meteor]

short range

dispellable

c:

[green wharf]

still unfair

[chilly pivot]

@slow solstice prio BT if more then 1 target

[slow solstice]

I SAID THAT BEFORE

[green wharf]

M+ andys lost

[stark agate]

I'm not a pro but why is cyclone not being looked at

I feel like that ability specifically is way way overtuned

not even that high risk

[floral widget]

guys

i think prot war look way more interesting than fury on pvp

after those last updates

ill get my gear to try prot on bg and arenas

btw anyone was tryin it?

[green wharf]

@sharp meteor

he is the chief prot in pvp

i got mine to 1800 in blitzz, its def fun

[sharp meteor]

Feels nice. Not as cracked as Fury but a good time.

[torn sigil]

are arms warrs only running 2 sets lately?

[sharp meteor]

fury prot play 2pc arms probs plays 4pc

[green wharf]

doug, dunno how y'all play with classes who have energy, so annoying

even hunter focus isnt as bad

[sour crag]

So my PC decided to go Blue screen and restart itself twice during a match, yet I miraculously got 2 wins at least.

But holy shit

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-panic-fire-gif-27173222

[fickle forge]

If you DC it should be -150 rating

[green wharf]

depends

in blitzz i got 200 and 222

[wheat jay]

if you dc it should cancel the shuffle and only count those rounds you played

imo

but count them as losses

[sour crag]

That's the thing, I was still somehow in the match despite my pc rebooting itself. Crazy

So in the end I only lost 20ish ratings, which was better

[wheat jay]

ye cuz when you dc wow keeps you in game until you timeout or wow gets a signal of you being offline

for a while its just "not responding"

[torn sigil]

azj kanet gotta be the worst zone by far for disturbed earth

[sour crag]

I kinda dont dare queuing for more if me pc will randomly crash again

[wheat jay]

happens

you only want 1950, right?

[sour crag]

Minimum yes, am at 1822 atm

Been a slog thus far, I've managed to salvage with draws so far

[torn sigil]

thats a 5-1 and a 4-2 away

[sour crag]

Last time I was in a lobby with a bal druid and frost dk

was scary

Bal druid keep being a slippery prick with their deer form

[torn sigil]

yea thats rought but survive the opener and you can win that easy if youre careful

[green wharf]

its so fucking dumb that warriors can get some skills silenced

[torn sigil]

war banner and disarm

or swap disarm for rebound if the moonkin is good

[sour crag]

Well I don't have warbanner as Fury, but I did Disarm the Ice Pillars at least

[fickle forge]

Not at his mmr

He needs at least 4 surplus wins

[torn sigil]

looking at this game in my reflex i was 1848

a 3-3 left me at 1864

next game a 5-1 let me at 1932

[copper fox]

Cr gain is mmr based

[torn sigil]

next game a 5-1 gave me 1985

this is mmr

[copper fox]

You can’t make calls off of just cr

[green wharf]

i saw people lose 3mmr by going 3-3

[torn sigil]

so im just hypothetical assuming hes 1840 after a good win at 1822 his current rate

[wheat jay]

how are you going to shout when silenced?

[torn sigil]

@sour crag just spam q brother

[green wharf]

if it was just that it would be fine

[north thicket]

Blizz overfocused on this disgusting class who has flooded both pvp and M+... Instead of solving actual gameplay problems let's rework hunters.

[green wharf]

your hate is towards bm, not mm

[fierce elm]

Hunters flooding M+

[wheat jay]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

theyre not even that good in m+ lol

[green wharf]

fuck m+ with sand

[sour crag]

Am I the only one who thinks MM shouldn't rely having a pet?

Purely theme-wise.

I see MM as a archer or gunner, not a poacher

[torn sigil]

they either get the cc and buffs in their kit or from pets

[sour crag]

Can't they just have both without having a pet to begin with?

[wheat jay]

no

cant rn

should tho

[torn sigil]

then thy are just overloaded

[sour crag]

Like, why bother with the Lone Wolf talent if everyone is gonna meta having a stupid pet around.

[torn sigil]

should be a bit like cata

[sour crag]

LET ME SNIPE AS A LONER DANGIT

[torn sigil]

need crab for disarm

[sour crag]

...

[torn sigil]

crane for silence

lion cat whatever for buff

[sour crag]

I just

wanna dakka

without a pet.

And not be punished for it.

[wheat jay]

pet should be a choice for mm and survi

and mandatory for bm only

[green wharf]

there is a talent for that, exactly

[sour crag]

The Lone Wolf, yes, but you still overall nerf yourself, no?

[green wharf]

but hunters in wow have pet, specs are bound by the class, not independant of it

[green wharf]

the rework fix that, you only run a pet if you want it

[wheat jay]

like warlocks that play with pets, or sacrifice it and play without it?

[green wharf]

yeah

dunno if you are trying to be sarcastic

but yeah

[wheat jay]

makes sense for mm and survi to play without pet imo

that's all

[green wharf]

survival without a pet is just a warrior

[fierce elm]

If you meta-game you always lose out on some interesting talents

[green wharf]

buuut, to me, the thing is having the choice, play like you want

[wheat jay]

would be an actual melee/ranged hybrid

proper one

pet is there for a dumb minigame or managing it

[green wharf]

the whole point of the class is having a pet

might as well ask for another class

tinker

would do the job

ranged, melee/ranged hybrid, tank and healer

[wheat jay]

remove pet

pet is ass

survi is fun

but pet ruins it

i rest my case

[sour crag]

I remember when hunters could 2-hand

that was fun

Aaanyway

Had a lobby with bal/destro/ww

https://tenor.com/view/wall-brick-panel-gif-17806248

Man did I feel powerless even when trying to utilize Nagrand pillars

Train balance, destro chaos bolts me. go at warlock, druid goes PEWPEW

While MM is being annoying.

[copper fox]

Was it mm or ww

[sour crag]

windwalker

I couldn't do anything even if I positioned myself to avoid the casting, because the monk would be at my ass

And if I go at the monk, the druid would clone my healer

what would you do?

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/request-denied-thumbs-down-joaquin-phoenix-gladiator-gif-12917210495678987869

[sour crag]

Oh and also, it was also a restodruid, so double clones. 💀

[north thicket]

It doesnt matter that they are not that good, you have a large hunter playerbase in M+ regardless of their score